>hunting is ethica-

seems like it's a thing for dudes with absolutely tiny cocks

>>139043550
Poor little moose :(

>>139043550

moose after Mcdonalds

That was a perfect shot. I think it's a more ethical source of meat than industrial farming.

>>139043550
Nice lung shot.

>>139043550
You're right we need to make wolves eat dog chow now.

>>139043550
>Not having your meat agree with you that it should be ate

I bet you that arrow was a Republican

Well, I could see an argument that using a bow to kill when there are more effective and fast means is immoral.

>>139048337
Me a real man and kill it with you fists.

Moose meat is pretty good. I love animals, but sometimes they gotta die senpai. Better to be the nigga behind the trigger than the buck in front of the barrel, dig?

More ethical than factory farming

>>139049099
I bet he's gutted

>>139043550
Bro that was a clean shot. Ever see wolves kill a moose? How do you think animals die in nature? Do you think its as fast as the webm you posted?

>>139049099
what's kinda sad is how the zebra realizes "oh fuck that's not good, get back in me!"

>>139049099
>the zebra tries to bite its own guts off because it doesn't know what they are
animals sure are stupid

>>139043550
NICE lung shot. Cruel is Texas Bullseye, cityboy.

>>139043550

That was a good shot you retard. Bleeding out is relatively painless

>humans and animals are equal
>but only animals have to right to kill other animals

fuck off nigger

>>139043550
That's a pretty damn good shot, died quickly.

>>139043550
Good kill

>>139043550
>textbook lungshot
Don't be such a fucking bitch dude.

>>139048012
this. You should only be allowed to eat meat you kill yourself

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"We can judge a man by his treatment of animals" - Kant

>>139049763
>>humans and animals are equal
No, humans should be better than animals, we should realize that we don't need to cause them suffering to sustain ourselves.

>>139049099
Nature is cruel, should we be like nature or better than nature?

>>139049099
Show this to a leftist and before you know it there'll be an effort for "how can we stop crocodile violence"

>>139050118
We are nature faggot.

>>139050118
>falling for spooks

>>139050118
we are nature
you fucking twit

>>139043550
Is that a glow in the dark arrow?

A lot more "ethical" than a slaughterhouse you limp wrist faggot

>>139050320
Nah just high vis.

>>139050233
>>139050287
We have the ability to transcend natural impulses faggots

>>139050278
>having the empathy of a subhuman

>>139050118

We are part of nature you retard. This is why killing animals is normal while cutting off your dick to become a "woman" is not.

>>139043550
Nice fucking shot

>>139049099
spilled his spaghetti

>>139044315

Its usually the guy with tiny cocks that hate on hunting because they can't stand the sight of something dying.

>>139049406
Yeah, as a vegetarian I concur.

>>139043550
Literally nothing wrong with this, it suffered less than industrial slaughterhouse meat.

reindeer tastes better than moose

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>>139049652

>>139043550
that's about as clean an arrow kill you can get.

>>139043550

>muh khaleesi

He hit that one right in the heart. Painless as can be.

>>139043550
but it was dead as soon as it started spewing blood? everything after that was reaction from muscles

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>>139050527
Some animals in the wild eat their young, should we do this too since it's natural? We're a part of nature but we don't have to behave like beasts.

>>139050579

>[CITATION NEEDED]

>>139050412
If you are a woman then this is understandable, just go away. If you are a man then you are a perfect example of why the west became so weak, none of your ancestors would have ever balked at the idea of slaughtering an animal. Grow some fucking balls faggot.

>>139044315
>Tiny cock for respecting an animal they're about to consume

Big Dick niggas don't respect dumbass animals

>>139050412
He did a perfect lungshot (based on anatomical knowledge and experience); that animal died quicker than a cow that gets killed in a slaughterhouse you dumb cunt. He transcended nature by far here and killed the animal in a more humane way than 99,9 procent of the animals that get killed in industrialized environments.

>>139050951
>some
well there you go faggot
fucking end your life

>>139043550
still better then living in a factory farm

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>>139043550
Go cry vegan boy. You've clearly not seen enough niggers vs whites violence or Muslim beheading videos if death of a freaking moose gets you upset. You probably killed at least 50 animals in your life by eating hamburger's bought by your parents.

A bow is a much cleaner and quicker way of killing something that big. Only faster way would be to land a headshot and moose have thick fucking skulls.

Not ethical because the moose died painfully.

>>139044315
>Nigger makes dick jokes
Nothing new here.

God damn bow hunting is retarded.

>>139050951
You seem to think that nature is equal and that all of nature is the same. It isn't. We all have our own unique parts, places and roles. This is a good thing, as it works briliantly in perfect harmony. Think of the food chain. The circle of life.

>>139050118
>pretending hunting is immoral

"Now then, please take your gear, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me;" Genesis 27:3

>>139049752
I always wondered if it's possible to double lung one of those.
Wonder if that broadhead was mechanical

>>139050951

You need to be over 18 to post here

>>139048012

That moose was free 'til the moment it died, fucking vegans are going to cry about animal suffering but then they keep their pets in a fucking 1000sqft apartment all fucking day.

>>139050951
Lol we don't eat them but we kill the shit out some babies and fuckin' bin em or grind em up for research.

>>139051248
How so? Some people who hunt with guns tell they have chased the animals several kilometers after they get shot. OP's video was the easy way to go.

>>139043550
>implying watching a wolf rip its throat out would
have be more appealing

jrbac policje i wladze

>>139050118
>"We can judge a man by his treatment of animals" - Kant
Retarded

>>139043550
>I just missed your heart

>>139043550
Fucking amazing shot desu

Couldn't have done better with a bow

>>139050951
People are going to hunt, faggots like you will never change a fucking thing.
Too bad if you don't like it you sensitive little fucking bitch.

>>139051977

No this is right. Kant did not imply that killing animals was wrong by that statement.

>>139043550
That was a really good shot. dropped it pretty fast.

>>139050951
>Some animals in the wild eat their young, should we do this too since it's natural?
Are you pro life?

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You faggots should read Impeachment of Man by Savitri Devi, especially so-called National Socialists on this board

>>139051029
Hitler would have disagreed with you, was Hitler a "weak" man? I believe in having empathy for all life, sorry that makes me a faggot. Killing animals isn't necessary, why cause unnecessary suffering?

>>139051054
>>139051307
>>139052071
It's unnecessary to kill animals at all for human survival, why cause suffering to other sentient beings? Do you not care? Do you lack empathy? Is it because "meat tastes good"?

>>139051281
I never said any of that, nature is unequal and cruel, but we can be compassionate to all life.

>>139043550
Nice shot Quick, clean and painless.

I am impressed.

I honestly don't understand why people get upset about things like this. It's a fucking animal. The world is a cruel place. It's not going to appreciate you killing it quickly. In reality, it'd probably be ripped to shit by a grizzly or die a horrible slow death from an infection.

>>139050951
>behave like beasts
I can't think of any other animal that aims to kill it's prey quickly for the purpose of lessening it's suffering. Those that do kill quickly surely do so incidentally

>>139043550

nice fucking shot. that was real quick. nasty arrow heads man. nasty.

only better would be a direct heart puncture.

though a gun is "more humane" though the bow is more humane than a bunch of wolves ripping off your junk and tearing you apart before you're dead.

>>139043550

> when you roll a crit 20 on a marksmanship test

>>139052666
It drowned in its own blood.

>>139052357
>Killing animals isn't necessary
Yes, it is.
>>139052666
Have you ever had an arrow through you? It hurts but its over quick.

>>139052666

It is the cleanest kill you can get with a bow besides a headshot through the eye socket with an animal that has a skull this thick.
Of course it hurts the animal when a arrow penetrates its lungs and heart but it also is pumped with adrenaline which makes it bleed out even faster and suppresses the pain. You see that it fell after 20 seconds because of a blackout

>>139052666
That arrow show was a really clean shot for the moose. Anywhere else and he'd been suffering. Any shot in the heart or lungs can ensure that death is quick for the animal. Im sure it hurts the moose but its a quicker death than any other.

>>139043550
Well placed shot with a bow really. It was probably unconscious within 20 secs from blood loss. The only way to be quicker would be a rifle shot to a part of the central nervous system.

Better death than literally any other natural cause other than lightning strike. People forget that wild animals do not die from old age peacefully in their beds like we can. They starve to death agonizingly when their teeth are too dull to chew food, they get killed in agonizingly slow ways by predators when they are too old (or young) and slow, sometimes being eaten while still alive. They die slow terrible deaths by disease or sometimes simply freezing to death.

Like it or not, being hunted by a human is the best death an animal can hope for besides being struck by lightning.

>>139050412
>We have the ability to transcend natural impulses
faps to kiddy prawn
>We have the ability to transcend natural impulses
throws piss at cops
>We have the ability to transcend natural impulses
cries about DRRRRRMMMMPPPPHHH till it falls asleep
>We have the ability to transcend natural impulses
>wakes up cuts off own micro-penis and feeds to one of 25 cats pissing all over shitty apartment.

>>139043550

>kill something
>something bleeds

Are you fucking millenials that retarded?

>>139052788
I'm not convinced a gun is any more humane desu. With modern broadheads a bow probably kills faster. Unless you do a headshot, but THAT would actually be unethical.

>>139050118
>human beings don't need meat to sustain themse....

From https://www.livescience.com/31974-earliest-human-hunters-found.html

"Archaeologists have unearthed what could be the earliest evidence of ancient human ancestors hunting and scavenging meat.

Animal bones and thousands of stone tools used by ancient hominins suggest that early human ancestors were butchering and scavenging animals at least 2 million years ago. The findings, published April 25 in the journal PLOS ONE, support the idea that ancient meat eating might have fueled big changes in Homo species at that time.

"Just about that time — 2 million years ago — we see big shifts in the human fossil record of increase in brain size, increase in body size and hominins leaving Africa for Eurasia," said study co-author Joseph Ferraro, an archaeologist at Baylor University in Waco, Texas. The meaty meals may have provided the energy for those transformations, he said."

Humans evolved from earlier hominids that took up hunting for meat about 2 million years ago. Your ability to accurate throw an object evolved from chugging rocks and spears at prey animals just as the find motor control in our hands evolved from crafting stone tools. Our hominid ancestors had nothing else going for them. They were small and had no sharp teeth and claws, but they had a brain that was steadily growing in over the next 1.5 million years. In a sense, humans are an omnivore species specialized in tool using and it was the tools of our hominid ancestors that guide our evolution into the very creatures we are today. If they did not take up tool using, then humans would not exist.

>>139052357
>was Hitler a "weak" man?
Yes. He lost. More than once.

How can people be so fucking retarded? Hunting is a good thing.

>>139052666
Not as painful as my erection.
Thanks.

>>139053324

If you hit deer or roe buck right with a rifle they drop instantly though

>>139053072
Holy shit my sides, look at the monkey boiled scream.

>>139052666
would you feel comfortable drowning in your own blood?

>>139050625
>Flag
Checks out

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>>139051206
cucks get hunted too

perfect shot, a bullet likely would not have worked as quickly and efficiency

it's honestly a beautiful thing to see

>>139043550
That was a beautiful shot. Got any more, OP?

>>139053324
I hunt whitetail with an 223 remington sometimes. I place a shot right behind their ear as they turn way from me. I have yet to see one that wasnt dead before it hit the ground. The animal has no understanding of what happened. It can be pretty painless.

>>139053517
Only with a CNS shot which is extremely cruel. Its a small target and a miss will just wound the animal. A passthrough heart and lung shot will not kill the animal instantly, it still bleeds to death like with the arrow. Just through a smaller hole.

>>139053957

I can just account for what I have witnessed personally. With modern tipped HP ammo that fragments you get pretty much instant kills with heartshots

>>139051248
>bow hunting is retarded because it takes more skill

>>139052666
The first time I got hit with an arrow hurt quite a bit, but it was over pretty fast. Or so I thought, until they brought me back.

>>139054198

Remember that psychopath that was obviously beating his sons that was hosted on IV8888 for a short time? He was a master bow hunter/archer

>>139053868
Yeah a headshot is the most humane, but if you miss such a small target you are just going to horrifically wound it. I wouldnt trust half the people I've hunted with to do that, but to each his own.

We can't even hunt with rifles where I am unless they are straight walled cartridges so its just shotgun or bow for me. The bow definitely bleeds it faster than a slug ime

>>139050118
Kant, of course, was speaking of CRUELTY, IE taking base pleasure in torturing animals, not ever doing something to an animal that you wouldn't do to a person. The idea that hunting and killing an animal for food is cruelty was completely absurd at the time.

But nevermind. Kant was a triple level vegan who ate nothing but chemical paste because historical context isnt a real thing.

>>139048012
4thpbp

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>>139044315
Um, no sweetie, us girls hunt too

>>139054325
Yeah i guess if I was limited to a rifled slug or bow I'd go for a heart/lungshot too. Sucks that you are limited to only those options though.

>>139054316
and hitler loved to paint, are artists genocidal now?

>>139054561

Thats the kind of deer you apply a headshot to if you catch my drift

>>139052666
Arrows can quill quicker than most bullets due to their ability to cut off the entire heart/lung bundle. Since these arrows are razor sharp on the edges, nerve damage is minimal. The animal most likely didn't feel much pain at all, especially in the first few seconds, hence it's rather calm reaction after the initial shock, which is typical for arrow hits. Since blood supply to the brain is cut off immediately, the brain becomes oxygen starved, ending in unconciousness in about 10 seconds. After that the brain starts dying as usual (10 minute rule applies).

>>139054666

>the holocaust happened
>being this triggered and cranky

>>139050412
>ability to transcend natural impulses
explains your virginity

>>139054619
Yeah its pretty fucking stupid. I'm thinking about getting a lever action rifle in 44 mag or something. When I was younger and dumber I took a deer with a .357 pistol, but I don't think that's enough gun to reliably take a whitetail.

>>139050118
this this this

You can't say we're better than animals while also saying it's justified to kill them because we're part of nature.

>>139054918
>a retard tries to say one person beat their kids and was good at bow hunting so all bow hunters are psychopaths
>calls other people idiots

>>139043550
>implying hunting was ever ethical
I'm sure Little Foot and whatever Indians sure had fun watching their moose run around like a chicken with its head cut off.

Besides, bows don't pierce as hot as bullets do. Can't blame him for not hitting the heart on first try.

>>139043550
Good shot. Ethical kill. Alpha confirmed.

what's the matter OP? You got cheeto stains on your dick again?

>>139050412
You've never once left Manhattan, have you, you festering cunt?

>>139043550
Cool!

>>139043550
You think bows kill quick like in movies mate?

>>139054561
>wearing makeup to go hunting
>stylish but impractical hair for the occasion
just an attentionwhore, move along folks

>>139055206

If you would have followed the thread and didnt have the attention span of a goldfish you would know that this is not my opinion, quite the opposite.

I just wanted to know if somebody else remembered that creepy guy, but again you got triggered because you are a cranky person looking for pointless arguments.

>>139055209
Bro that was a perfect shot. It literally could not have been better.

>>139055209
You're a bigger fucking faggot than OP. Arrows absolutely pierce as well as bullets. If you weren't Eurotrash you would know that.

>>139055361

... what is impractical about her hair?

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>>139052986
>Yes, it is.
Why? We could survive without animal products.

>>139053344
>early humans ate meat
>we have to be like humans were in the past
Yeah, agriculture is a thing senpai, society has advanced enough to where we don't need to go hunting to develop motor control now.

>>139055319
I've hunted and fished before, I've gutted animals, and I'm not proud of it. Not from a city either, I live in the middle of the woods.

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>>139043550
If only it was a shitskin

I literally have more empathy for animals than shitskins now

Wew

>>139044315
Says the limpdick cuck who prefers watching the bull spear his wife.

>>139043550
So getting shot in a major blood vessel and rapidly bleeding to death is a worse death than getting eaten alive by a pack of wolves?

>>139055533
>We could survive without animal products.
Sure, but we still can't survive without killing animals. Do you know how many critters get killed in the process of farming? It's also more difficult to actually thrive on a strictly vegan diet. Stop being a massive faggot. Would you prefer that moose be eaten alive by wolves or freeze to death? What the fuck do you think happens to animals? Do you think they turn into fairies and live forever?

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>>139049406
10x agree. If you're eating the meat it's no harm. If that didn't get him a pack of wolves would or disease. Animals like that don't die of old age. Clean shot that guy should be proud.

>>139052357
Nazi goobers that take Hitler's word as gospel are almost as bad as commies.

We're predators, moose are prey. The irony is that you're the one going against nature.

>>139055915

Its the wolves culture.

>>139050118
> Better than nature
> Supports abortion

>>139056001

Hitler had no problem with hunting

>>139056148
It's not just wolves either.
Some hunters are really metal and decide to use pack of hounds to incapacitate a boar or deer while they proceed to spear the animal underneath its armpits.
If the OP wanted to bitch about animal cruelty from hunting, he should have chosen a better webm.

>>139043550
imagine hunting kikes like that

>>139055361
>>139055506
as a woman with long hair myself, I don't see what's impractical about the hair? It's out of the way and up in a loose bun, it looks like, so it might come undone if she moves around too much but otherwise it's fine?

>>139055533
you're too idealistic like me.
the world is obsessed with cumming and killing. they're monkey people and do not want to be any better than a tamed gorilla who knows how to shop at walmart.
animalistic fags who conflate their instinctual cues to kill/rape with their conscious desires, the aspects that makes us human, are 99% of the world

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>>139056933

Still a better death than cows get at those meat factories.

>>139057000
tits

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>>139056744

>implying I dont do this

>>139057000
As a man who had long hair for years I can confidently say that it's incredibly impractical. It's constantly in the way if not tied up, when tied up it inevitability chines undone. Long hair is a liability.

>>139057693
When I lived in Germany, my dad knew an 80+ year old man that hunted boars this way. That generation will never be topped

>>139057693
That looks like a toothpick.

>>139054733
I'm sorry but I don't follow.

>>139057779
*comes

>>139050118
>Nature is cruel, should we be like nature or better than nature?
You can't transcend nature faggot else nature will destroy you. Respect her and she will respect you.

>>139049469
kek

>>139043550
Is the moose endangered? I don't get it. Ethics in hunting is about conservation and such.

>>139043550
That was pretty metal

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>>139057846
Damn, boar hunting with the Saufeder is considered a kingly sport, due to the massive danger.

>>139049652
pretty sure it was pregnant and that was its baby

>>139043550
This shit turns me on. A man with a gun. I remember going on a date with a big strong white man & I jokingly asked if that was a gun in his pocket and he whipped out a gun & I was laid out that night desu. Oh yeah, it was actually his 9inch D not his gun

>>139057876

Let me poke you with it

>>139057846

Its a dangerous game though, a boar can cut off your lower leg easily I have seen it happen once

>>139043550
Very bad shot. The guy did not practice ethical hunting. The quality of the meat will be much lower, too, as a result. Ethical hunting involves using a weapon with the right penetration power. As you can see, the shot was good. If he had used proper weaponry, the moose would have died almost instantly, and painlessly.

>>139051393
I've only ever double lunged a moose with a Rem 700, you'd have to have a pretty mean bow to do it. You can double lung deer all day though if you hit it side on.

t. Hunter for 10 years, bowhunter for 5

Props to the guy for the clean hit but wouldn't it be better to use a gun since moose hide is stupidly thick? I get that bow hunting is kind of a dick waving thing but it still seems unefficient.

>>139058379
Stop pretending you know things.

>>139058299
They've been spreading here in America. They've finally reached my county. Some neighbors a few hollows away from ours have started seeing them.

The problem is, you cannot hunt at night in my state (not sure if ANY state allows it) and they're nocturnal creatures. But when they DO finally get here, my dad brought over a huge container of this sticky, smokey smelling stuff you put on trees that they love. Baiting with food is illegal, but this stuff isn't food.

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I don't hunt myself, but I see no harm in hunting for food. Hunting solely for sport I'm not thrilled about, but I have family who hunt, eat the meat, and keep the pelt and/or skulls as trophies in their home. I just personally don't like the idea of wasting what you kill, that animal should die to feed you.

>>139052357
You do not understand how deep the culture of food is. Just because you want to have extreme morals does not mean you get to project them onto society. Socrates believed monks held a higher morals than regular people, but that did not make regular people immoral. The sooner you start understanding food culture is the most important thing to people, the sooner you can stop wasting your time.

>>139057893
you transcend nature by not being a dumb nigger obsessed with money/cumming/getting high/violence.
your stupid dog emotions and instincts are ingrained into you. they're not actual thoughts.

you're a piece of shit and subhuman if the main things you enjoy in life are equally enjoyed by jungle animals. (food/sex/hunting/alcohol/drug)

everyone hates on blacks here because they show more animalistic urges than whites do, so why the fuck is everyone so against striving to be as far away from a jungle animal as possible?
low iq unconscious fags

>>139058379
That's pretty much a perfect shot you nigger.
The moose dropped in under 30 seconds, using a bow is fine.
Moose are big hearty fuckers, you're not going to kill one instantly.

meh, moosie are a dangerous animal. Should use a gun, not an arrow, though.

>>139049099
Kek, did it try to eat its own intestines?

>>139043550
Beautiful shot. What insane kind of arrowhead did that man use? The blood is absolutely gushinh out of that moose

>>139059030
I didn't write it correctly but I already pointed out that the shot [location] was good, just not the weapon (totally: "the shot").
Using a bow here was reckless at best.

>>139058708

Same over here, It has something to do with the farmers planting rapsseed. It is a high energy plant that is also used to generate fuel and with boars it is that the more food they get the more often they can reproduce and have more offspring per litter.

Night hunting is not illegal here but hunting with headlights and night vision is. Some states are removing those regulations though to fight off boars more effectively.

oh boo hoo. It died quicker than if a pack of coyotes decided to rip it's jugular out.

Humans are animals. We are not removed from the chain of things. We have to eat and this is more respectable than buying a processed burger from McDonalds that you didn't even have the balls to kill.

Guarantee every ounce of meat was eaten off of that moose. Good shot.

>>139059353
Using a bow here is fine. In fact, using a gun is so easy nowadays I would prefer most people to use bows.

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>>139059185
Most people I know use these broadheads from NAP. 100 grain stainless.

>>139059353

you don't know what you're talking about.

that was a really good kill.

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>>139055533
>Yeah, agriculture is a thing senpai, society has advanced enough to where we don't need to go hunting to develop motor control now.

The point >>>>>>>> your head

Humans are born omnivores. The motor control of your hominid ancestors was developed to kill animals for food.

>I've hunted and fished before, I've gutted animals, and I'm not proud of it. Not from a city either, I live in the middle of the woods.

This pic

>>139059409
oooga booga rape white women. steal from store. burn shit. get welfare. smoke weed.

everyone should be like jamal because we're inherently animals. nobody should strive to be better. we should all succumb a life of orgasm and attack

>>139059579

how much weighs the whole arrow?

>>139043550
Holy fucking shit that's cool

>>139049752
>implying anything but an instakill is """nice"""

You disgust me. This whole thread disgusts me.If I wasn't a poor, I wouldn't even hunt.

>>139059499
Fun != ethical.

>>139049406
Vegan, I agree.

A cows life in captivity, full of torture and psychological torment vs a moose dying swifly in under 30 seconds after a life of freedom.

Undeniable which is more kind and ethical for the animal

>>139059872
see
>>139058864

>>139050118
so are furrys good according to kant?

>>139060091
Flag checks out.

Who gives a fuck about animals. I don't even give a fuck about most people

>>139059786

>

t. moose internet defence force

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>>139050951
>some animals in the wild eat their young because they are desperate to survive and/or they eat ONE of their young in order to feed the rest of their young.

what is abortion? it's women killing of their children for one of many reasons
1- they don't want it
2- they can't afford it
3- the baby has a defect that lowers it's quality of life
4- immediate danger to the mother's life

hmm, empathyfag, 1/2 of those options are immoral by your speculation and yet we commit abortions all the fucking time
hmmmmm it's almost like humans will shit on each others' lives in order to further our own all the time hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

K Y S
Y
S

>>139059786
>creating victims of human beings
>killing an animal in a relatively humane animal
the two are not the same you fucking retard. go eat your soy. animals aren't people

>>139060443
Uhm they're just cells sweetie

>>139060357
Steak taste good, I shall eat it.

>>139060443
The point is some people believe in a human soul

>>139050233
>we are nature
>he said while posting on an internet website from his technological device, from the comfort of his house
wew lad

>>139060644
You did not refute his point

>>139060644

>its the current year

>>139059787
It's highly dependent on the draw-weight of the bow you use, and the length of the arrow so it varies pretty broadly among different shooters.
There's a measurement called "spine" that quantifies the flexibility of the arrow. Too flexible and your arrow won't fly straight, too rigid and it's very unforgiving.
I use Easton Bowfire 330s that are about 9.6 grains per inch.
My whole setup including the 100 grain broadhead and 3 two inch vanes weighs about 430 grains per arrow.

>>139043550
I know you're a sheltered little faggot OP. Heres your (you) <3

>>139059786
have you ever seen how niggers treat animals? This was humane. It suffered for 20 seconds and died. You can tell from their hunting gear that they're not there just for sport. This was meat for them.

Stop being so fucking high and mighty. There's a difference between killing for fun and killing to eat. These men were killing to eat.

>>139060525
Your flag checks out once again. It's true what they say about burgers and school after all.

>>139052660
>Painless

I fully support hunting and I agree it was a very impressive shot resulting in a quick death, but getting shot through the lungs and exhaling several litres of your own blood doesn't really ever qualify as 'painless'

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>>139043550
I've never been much of a hunter.
My uncle is a trapper, you wanna talk about some unethical shit. Not that I can knock it, he put three kids through school, and probably has more money than I ever will.

>>139043550
meh, more ethical than factory farming. Amazing shot.

>>139061234
Your veganism is causing you to become neurotic.

>>139061030

(Cross) bow hunting is illegal over here anyways, I just got a bow for fun as well. I am just amazed how light the arrows are when compared to 600 gr bullets of my muzzleloader

>>139060444
people are worse than animals. we have the ability to not be libido driven morons, but we instead justify our own animal impulses as being perfectly valid because we're cumming humans and not cumming dogs.

99.99% of the world's populace are feral fags sedated with jungle based hobbies

>>139044315
it is
tiny cocks is a hunter trait, they evolved to protect their manhood from predators
big dicks are for coward berry pickers and "men" that dont eat meat

>>139049099
think i'm gonna be sick, but not the worst I've seen on this website.

>>139050118
You're just mad because you're a nigger and will never experience this with your dad.
https://youtu.be/_KKOqYZdJWo

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>>139056001
I go against nature because it's the right thing to do.

>>139055936
>we still can't survive without killing animals
We can minimize this, that's as much as we can do.

>It's also more difficult to actually thrive on a vegan diet
source? What do you mean by thrive?

>stop being a massive faggot
stop having the empathy of a subhuman

>Would you prefer that moose be eaten alive by wolves or freeze to death? What the fuck do you think happens to animals? Do you think they turn into fairies and live forever?
No, I have no delusions about how animals suffer in life, but we have control over the suffering we cause, so let's minimize that. In an ideal world we could control animal reproduction and eating to minimize suffering, but we're nowhere near there. It's a goal to strive for though.

>>139056159
Where did I say I supported abortion?

>>139057214
"There have been human beings, in the baboon category, for at least three hundred thousand years. There is less distance between the man-ape and the ordinary modern man than there is between the ordinary modern man and a man like Schopenhauer.” - Hitler

>>139058864
I don't doubt that the culture of food is deeply ingrained, but we can still promote a different culture so that in 500 years people will look at animals and food differently.

>>139059679
So because people "developed" to do something, we should do it? We can do better now. Hunting isn't a necessary activity, and animals are not a necessary source of nutrients.

You can believe whatever you want about me, I don't care.

>>139054456
I know many people who derive pleasure from hunting, and especially considering it's unnecessary to hunt nowadays I imagine Kant would agree with me.

>>139061890
I have experienced that, didn't feel good about it then or now.

>>139061582
It's definitely a good time.
I've got a little recurve bow that I shoot for fun when it's nice out.

>>139061315
Still not as painful as factory farming.

>>139062078
Can you prove to me that killing animals for food is unethical?

>>139061315
>nethercuck understanding nature
Yeah no. Do you even have animals in the nethershits? other than niggers and muds i mean.

A shot, a stab or an arrow through the heart and lung area is pretty much painless.
The reason why it sucks is because of the emotional distress and the panic it causes, and it is pretty much un-avoidable in most cases of death, animal or not.

>>139052660
>Quick, clean and painless.
it was none of those

>>139060772
Yea I did fag, we've progressed to a point where we are above nature
>>139060838
>I didn't mention the current year, let alone any
LOW TEST RAKE SHUT UP OR I'LL SNAP YOU IN HALF

>>139062078

>see the world as animals see it
>be my cat
>torture mouse for fun and dont eat it
>shit in garden

???

>>139062126

Its just a 120€ bow for me, one of the bows you can disassemble easily. Also recurve. 40lb draw

>>139062078
>It's a goal to strive for though
Why?

>>139062078
I live in the middle of nowhere and can either spend a fuck ton of money on groceries every year or I can take a deer or elk and feed myself for free for months.
It's not "necessary" but it sure as hell is pragmatic.

>>139050118
Kant can suck nigger cock.

>Yo man, I can judge ya based on how you treat your dog.

U FOOKIN WOT M8??
ILL BASH YA FOOKIN 'EAD IN I SWER ON ME MUM

>>139061233
they're there because it's fun as fuck to kill something. the meat is the secondary benefit to the primary goal, having your brain reward you with adrenaline for killing something.
do you feel enjoyment from reading (using human consciousness) in the same way you experience enjoyment prior to the refractory period (using animalistic unconsciousness)

im sick of people trying to act like we're higher than animals when we're consciously choosing to be the exact same fucking thing as them.

what is a more 'elevated' hobby to you: jacking off, or reading a book?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFnmM12LOQ
white people be evil even them childrems ar natural born murders
we niggas don stand a chance if the race war comes

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>>139061429
>animals are innocent

Pussy, genetically weak vegans.

>>139043550
nice shoot he didn't suffer long rip moose

>>139062701

you are so retarded on so many levels

>>139043550
That's like the definition of ethical hunting. Good clean shot, killed quickly. Will feed several families for many months.

>>139062877
That's pretty savage, but I wouldn't say it was killed with out reason.
I would have gone more with a nigger angle.
They're clearly not innocent animals.

>>139055889
what is happening here

>>139049652
What does it matter? It's dead regardless at that point. Might as well have some fun playing with your innards at that point.

>>139052357

>animals
>sentient beings

>>139063162
Your women are birthing mud slime bastards.
I'll be defending what's (right) and living in my homestead in the forests with my wife breeding the western white future. I'm only vegan while the system is intact. I own guns. When my civil war / racewar starts its a full 180 switch to potshotting niggers and hunter gatherer. Fuck you burger faggot. 14 88 you're a disgrace to my fatherland.

>>139060088
Just what do you think we do to our cows? We don't waterboard them dipshit. The calf is born, hangs out with momma cow in a wide open pasture for about a year. Then goes to a feedlot which is basically like a college dorm, lots of cow peers, shit everywhere just eat and fuck off all day. Then one day goes to a new place walks down dark hallway then pop, captive bolt to the brain. Next stop your plate.

>>139054561
Hello fellow grill bowhunter. Here's to a good upcoming season.

>>139062584
>A Norwegian calling someone a cuck
Pottery

>>139063803
It's nerve gas.

>>139063989
Animals are sentient jesus christ. Are you telling me a dog isnt sentient?

>>139061749
Every vegan I've been with had a small dick

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>>139043550
As long what you kill isn't wasted it's wholly ethical by Nature's own law. Humans have driven out natural predators in many places, as such Deer and Rabbits overpopulate the area and actually DAMAGE the ecosystem.

Not only are vegans physically weak, they're mentally weak as well. Thousands of years ago, these same genetically weak individuals would've been killed off, or exiled from the tribe for not pulling their own weight.

Veganism is a religion, and it only exists, because there is a grocery store down the street. Without the grid or civilization, vegans do not exist. It's a first world fad.

>>139063803
I think he was trying to steal copper wires or something like that.

>>139064165
Absolutely, retardedly, ignorantly, foming at the mouth with shit, diconected from reality. Most meat in grocery stores come from factory farms which bere no resemblance to what you described.

>>139043550
>>139044315
The problem is bowfags. Bowhunting made sense 400 years ago when it was the only option for some. Humans have mostly grown up over these centuries and now we use guns that are much more painless. Bobby Bigdick would be happy to shoot a moose, but lil' Dicky Twostones has to compensate for his sausage by unnecessarily torturing an animal. Humans evolved to hunt. To hunt is just as ethical to be human. If you are a vegan than you should be worried by the genocide of animals far more than some Bubbas clapping a few game out in the woods.

>>139048130
Was the shot supposed to go there? Looked effective

>>139059866
>kill
>instant
you what?

>>139064911
Read
>>139064157
You're a faggot making generalizations based off of hiptards living in major cities.

>>139065177
The problem is sensitive fags who think animals feeling pain matters at all.

>>139052357
>was Hitler a "weak" man?
Hitler's love of animals was a coping mechanism that originated from the horrors he experienced during WWI.A dog that accompanied him during that time was the reason he became the strong leader we all know and not some faggot with ptsd that drank himself to death.

>>139064726
if you dont feed a lion is going to grow week

>>139044928
That moose had a quick and merciful death. Massive blood loss reduces blood pressure and then he blacked out when he collapsed. Imagine being eaten alive by a mountain lion.

>>139062877
Dawww, what a happy kitty.

>>139049099
"Can you let me go sir I have to feed my kids"
"Ok..."
"No just kidding come back here lol"

>>139048337
>implying the state doesnt force people to use bows during certain season

>Moose lived full life in wild
>Died in 20 seconds so pumped with adrenaline it didn't "feel anything"
>fed people

What's the problem here?

>>139065582
>vegans
>problem

out of all the self-righteous cuckoldry that has come out of the left, veganism is probably the least respected
literally nobody cares what these people have to say

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>>139062464
I cannot prove moral propositions to you; either you innately will recognize it as true or not based on your own moral system.

Here's the best I can do:
1. Animals experience some level of conscious experience
2. You experience some level of conscious experience
3. It is morally wrong to treat other conscious entities as beings to be used for resources when other options exist.
3a. If you were an animal you would not wish to be used by another being.
3b. You empathize with animals as conscious entities.
4. If you agree with the above, it is unethical to kill animals for food.

If you want to claim plants are also conscious I'd direct you to Savitri Devi's Impeachment of Man, there's a chapter dealing with plant rights as well.

>>139062714
Because if we have the capability to lessen suffering in the world then we should?

>>139063989
>sentient
>able to perceive or feel things
Have you ever been around an animal faggot? Or are you just a psychopath? pic fucking related, I don't even know why I respond to this shitty bait

>>139062078
>plants are sentient
Please just stop eating.

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>>139050203
No that horse is half white so he deserved it.
He must have said something to that peaceful green muslim lizard.

Fuck you faggots...I'll be hunting elk with my dad and grandpa this fall and packing the meat out on horseback . hopefully i score a nice 6x6 or better maybe put a big non-typical in the book

>>139051011
>They have little cocks
>[CITATION NEEDED]

>he's never seen the chick grinder webm
unless you're going outright vegetarian you're just setting yourself up for being a hypocrite since factory farms are just as bad.
That said bow hunting is probably one of the least humane of the bunch, many of the idiots I know who bow hunt will hit an animal but won't kill it with the shot.

>>139065455
Yet, you didn't refute my points. You're just another pussy ass, scrawny vegan trying to feel holier than thou, when in reality, you're mentally weak; it's genetic.
There are some tribes of Hunzas and redskins that lived up to 120 years on all meat diets in colder climates.

Stop jacking off to pictures of Hitler and read a book.

>>139048012
>That was a perfect shot. I think it's a more ethical source of meat than industrial farming.

Do people even eat moose?

>>139065177

You're fucking delusional if you think that moose suffered more from being shot with a bow than with a gun. I've seen exactly the same results with .30-06. The animal went in shock and died before it could feel a thing.

>>139060644
Exactly, we are nature, if we really wanted there would be no nature left.

>>139065402
Kinda yes, kinda no. You aim for the heart and the lungs are pretty much in the same spot... Based on how fast it dropped I'd say his aim was on point. I think it's something like 8 seconds before you black out if your heart stops beating. Just punching a lung wouldn't have that effect.

>>139050680
Elk tastes better than both.

>>139064165
Bro don't be naive. I'm a meat eater but even I know factory farms are fucking horrible for animals. Their conditions are abhorrent most of the time.

>calf is born, hangs out with mama cow.
Veal would say otherwise. Hunters at least go for big, mature game.

>>139064377

We don't eat dogs here, Chang.
Sentience is the ability to feel subjectively, which certain intelligent animals (that we don't eat) can do.

Not that falling unconcious in <30sec from bloodloss is suffering, so the point's moot really.

>>139066111
I can't really tell what side of this you're on but in my opinion its always atleast more honorable to eat what youve killed and hold respect for the animal feeding you than the hedonistic autists who eat chivken niggets at mc-cuckolds and dis associate their ((food)) from reality

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>>139065883
Will you be giving out hugs and free kittens after the show?

>>139066221
You don't know me.

Everything you said I that dog shit post is false

>>139065402
>Was the shot supposed to go there? Looked effective

It was super effective. Straight in the vitals, like it's supposed to be. A good kill. The moose was gone in seconds.

In the wild, the usual way a moose dies is that it gets old or starved in winter or gets brains worms from living near deer and becomes easy prey. Then a pack of wolves run it down and then rip open the moose's perineum. The moose eventually get exhausted by blood loss from its savaged taint and collapses. The wolves start eating it while it's alive.

Getting an arrow through the vitals is a way better way to die.

>>139065056
>Absolutely, retardedly, ignorantly, foming at the mouth with shit, diconected from reality.

Are you describing yourself there? Maybe you should work on your spelling before you jump into a discussion on ethics. First it was cows, then that changed to "meat in grocery stores" it seems you have conceded that the typical cows life is not all that bad.

>>139066248
yes, it tastes a bit like buffalo in my opinion, not quite venison tasting, not quite beef.

>>139043550
What a beautiful shot

>>139065883
>Because if we have the capability to lessen suffering in the world then we should?
Wrong answer. All it does is to make you feel good about yourself, not lessen the suffering in the world.

In reality, nothing changes about the world. Virtually all animals that exist and will ever exist still suffer more than all of humanity could ever torture for fun if we wanted.

There's no "cause" more hopeless than veganism.

>>139066354
If we destroy nature, we destroy the capacity for ANY life on this planet. We literally cannot "destroy" nature and exist afterwards

>>139066845
You're a vegan, because Hitler was. Admit it, natsoc. lol

I thought their uniforms looked cool too, but I'm an American.

>>139052357
preach!

>>139065883
>muh it's wrong to kill sentient beings
Judeo-christian morality is a cancer.

>>139066872
Amerifat being dumb and thinking simplisticly

Disregarded

>>139054561
nice try tranny

>>139067086
Until we leave this rock.

For now, yes, we can't destroy it and still exist, but it doesn't change that, it's us that conform to nature anymore, it's every other being in this planet who conforms to OUR nature.

>>139066248
Yes. I've never tried it, but I hear it is very good. I personally have an elk and an oryx in my freezer. I haven't purchased beef in ages.

>>139067158
Vegan first, redpilled after. Hitler was a vegetarian (not a vegan) faggot who couldn't complete what he started

>>139067039
That's why I said that we should control animal reproduction, that way we could prevent animals from being born into a world of suffering.

>>139067252
Agreed, I'm not Judeo-Christian, which typically only extends empathy to humanity.

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>>139050278
>Believing the spookman
Stirner is the ultimate edgy fedora lord.

>Lol Im so above everyone else, I own everyone lol.

>>139064726
gays dont count

>>139043550
hunting is for rural faggots

>>139066494
5-15 seconds for most critters having their heart wrecked. When you see a critter fold from a heart shot with a rifle, it's typically because a pressure wave was sent through the circulatory system and blew all sorts of shit out in the brain.

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>>139043550
SAGE

>complains about hunting animals
>advocates hitting innocent people with bike locks and flag poles
kys
>here's your .02 (You) faggot

>>139043550
nerve gas is some scary shit

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>>139066771
Kittens/cats are awesome actually. They're carnivores and very intelligent. The lion is the king of the jungle for a reason.
An adult, female tiger can take down a fully grown elephant behind the ear; its weak spot.
Cats>dogs

Fuck weak herbivores.

>>139064911
no evidence and science says otherwise soo

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>>139049099
Nature has fuck all ethics. It's survival of the fittest and chaos theorys bastard child.
Long may it reign.

>>139064165
I can tell you've never driven by a feedlot...

Video looked fine. Thats how people have fed themselves since the beginning of life. Its not pretty but its how things go in the jungle. Modern city people arent above it, just sheltered and insulated from it.

>>139052357
Plants are sentient too. They can also talk to each other, so by your logic every human should be a pussy that starves to death because feels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-4w5xYLwiU

>>139055088
whitetail around Oklahoma go down pretty nicely with a lever action .357.

I've used the ammo below and a Marlin 1894 as a brush gun. For < 100 yards, it is pretty effective and I feel "safer" around hogs.

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=100

>>139067502
Where the fuck did you get oryx meat

>>139044315
>He typed as his tendies dinged in the oven

>>139067483
I'm not leaving this "rock" that's for sure. So I'm here to redeem its prior glory as much as I can

>>139066689
ethics in animal farming or hunting is a bit of a meme if we're being honest, since you still have the fundamental problem of killing animals no matter how humanely. That said I'm perfectly fine (and do it myself) with hunting animals that you plan to eat. Doesn't apply to the original webm since I don't know anyone who eats moose

>>139050203
I saw this video on Youtube and some people were literally saying things like

"wtf why didn't the cameraman put it out of its misery"

or

"Why didn't he killed the alligator, what a monster for letting this happen"

I was at a park last year and saw a dog bodyslam a cat into the bank of a river and toy with it then it eat throat first while it screamed. Worse death than OP.

>>139043550
>that massive drop in blood pressure + elevated heart beat + adrenaline killing it in 20 seconds
wowo

>>139067998
wrong flag btw

>>139067767
You're correct. Science proves these people existed and some of their tribes exist to this day. These vegans are living in denial, because they're physically and mentally weak.
Liberals to the core.

>>139066354
>>139067086
IMO, we have domesticated ourselves a little too well at this point. It's time to understand that, not only are we a part of nature and THE apex predator, but we need to step into that role with full knowledge that we are a part of the ecosystems that we inhabit and we need to step into it responsibly.

>>139067847
Plants aren't sentient. Fuck off with your autistic bullshit

>>139066248
I've had it a couple times... More favourful than beef and a wee bit greasier. Honestly, it depends entirely on how you prepare it. I doubt that I'd enjoy a hunk of moose meet as much as beef, but burgers and jerky (etc.) taste just fine.

killing animals is wrong. but goddamn its not my fault they taste so good. Seeing how fat ugly and stupid my fellow Americans are. It is quite sad chickens and pigs are consumed for food instead of them Lol.

>>139067998
>camera man shoots it
Croc fucks off and animal is dead for no reason
>camera man kills alligator
Zebra runs off and dies, two animals are dead for no reason.

How morally upstanding :^)

>>139068179
You first you retarded feels faggot.

>>139043550
Damn good shot. Why have a problem with this?
You know moose actually kill people, right?
He's getting food without hormones and such just as God intended.

Get out of here if you think this is anything but good and pure.

>>139066565
abhorrent is a relative term, compare the life of a pig in a "factory farm" to the life of a New York City peasant about 1870 or so.

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>>139067847
+1

>>139043550
what a piece of shit

>>139067987
If that's what you want to do. It doesn't matter anyways, this rock is going to get swallowed by the sun in time too, unless someone manages to either move it or replicate it.

>>139067517
You're a vegan, because the civilization we live in allows you to. And civilization tempers man's true nature.
Nietzsche knew we'd come to an end. It's only a matter of time now.

>>139067540
>That's why I said that we should control animal reproduction, that way we could prevent animals from being born into a world of suffering.
If you could, would you have chosen not to be born?

>this entire thread

This is why I eat fish, theyre too retarded to feel pain or do anymore than flop about

>>139067949
I spent several hours humping it through the Jornada Del Muerto shield volcano lava flows by the White Sands Missile Range in the middle of July and shot one.

>>139049099
>this

Fucking pussies.

>>139067988
My view point is: when living in a civilized society where we have the luxury of grocery stores. Veganism is the healthiest and most environmentaly sustainable diet to live by

>>139051248
Terrible video to use as an example. I've seen squirrels take longer to drop from a rifle (granted, squirrels are super dramatic and will cling to a tree for what feels like eternity, but still).

>>139058156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH99F-5ltM8

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>>139062078
>I know many people who derive pleasure from hunting

But making the animal suffer isn't the part they find fun

(((veganism)))

(((the sun is unhealthy)))

(((meat causes cancer)))

>>139058379
I always wondered about hunting and stress upon the animal. Has anyone tested the meat from an animal shot in the head vs chest? Does game meat change drastically in this situation?

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>>139068434
>veganism
>healthy
choose only one

>>139068086
read a book you dumb fuck most of humanity ate a plant diet for the longest time. Meat would be a rare commodity. Its not normal to eat meat and get erectile dysfunction in your 20s like most amerifats.