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PISA 2015 /pol/ edition

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Singapore tops latest OECD PISA global education survey, Japan, Estonia, Finland and Canada are the 4 highest performing OECD countries.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3TCpzSe4cs
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www.nier.go.jp/kokusai/pisa/video/How_does_PISA_work_640x360.mp4
all4ed.org/debunking-seven-myths-about-pisa/
www.oecd.org/pisa/pisafaq/
www.oecd.org/pisa/data/
52.31.27.158/PISAoccupations/

OECD PISA tests the skills and knowledge of 15 year-olds, providing the global benchmark for the quality, equity and efficiency of school systems.
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>>139027592
Immigrant students perform better in science than non-immigrants in ARE, AUS, CAN, GBR, HKG, ISR, JOR, MAC, QAT, SGP, & USA
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>>139027786
Where do disadvantaged students achieve the best results in science?
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>>139027842
What does the share of top performers and low achievers look like in your country?
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>>139027903
HAPPINESS
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>>139027592
Nice to see Germany doing well as usual. I'm always surprised at how well we're doing in maths considering my class sucked at it.
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>>139028968
Yes, even though the OECD average has stayed the same since the first inception of PISA in 2000 some countries have made strong improvements in learning outcomes (and as well, in some countries performance has declined)
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> chinks smarter than us
> hard to believe

there is a 100% chance that chinks cheated on their PISA
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Whenever an American or European wins an Olympic gold medal, we cheer them as heroes. When a Chinese does, the first reflex seems to be that they must have been doping; or if that’s taking it too far, that it must have been the result of inhumane training.

There seem to be parallels to this in education. Only hours after results from the latest PISA assessment showed Shanghai’s school system leading the field, Time magazine concluded the Chinese must have been cheating. They didn't bother to read the PISA 2012 Technical Background Annex, which shows there was no cheating, whatsoever, involved. Nor did they speak with the experts who had drawn the samples or with the international auditors who had carefully reviewed and validated the sample for Shanghai and those of other countries.
covered by Shanghai’s PISA sample, because years ago those migrants wouldn't have had access to Shanghai’s schools. But, like many things in China, that has long changed and, as described by PISA, resident migrants were covered by the PISA samples in exactly the way they are covered in other countries and education systems. Still, it seems to be easier to cling to old stereotypes than keep up with changes on the ground (or to read the PISA report).
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>>139032041
True, like other emerging economies, Shanghai is still building its education system and not every 15-year-old makes it yet to high school. As a result of this and other factors, the PISA 2012 sample covers only 79% of the 15-year-olds in Shanghai. But that is far from unique. Even the United States, the country with the longest track record of universal high-school education, covered less than 90% of its 15-year-olds in PISA - and it didn't include Puerto Rico in its PISA sample, a territory that is unlikely to have pulled up U.S. average performance.

International comparisons are never easy and they are never perfect. But anyone who takes a serious look at the facts and figures will concede that the samples used for PISA result in robust and internationally comparable data. They have been carefully designed and validated to be fit for purpose in collaboration with the world’s leading experts, and the tests are administered under strict and internationally comparable conditions. Anyone who really wants to find out can review the underlying data.

Short of arguments about methodology, some people turn to dismissing Shanghai’s strong performance by saying that Shanghai’s students are only good on the kind of tasks that are easy to teach and easy to test, and that those things are losing in relevance because they are also the kind of things that are easy to digitise, automate and outsource. But while the latter is true, the former is not. Consider this: Only 2% of American 15-year-olds and 3% of European ones reach the highest level of math performance in PISA, demonstrating that they can conceptualise, generalise and use math based on their investigations and apply their knowledge in novel contexts. In Shanghai it is over 30%. Educators in Shanghai have simply understood that the world economy will pay an ever-rising premium on excellence and no longer value people for what they know, but for what they can do with what they know.
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>>139032081
PISA didn't just test what 15-year-olds know in mathematics, it also asked them what they believe makes them succeed. In many countries, students were quick to blame everyone but themselves: More than three-quarters of the students in France, an average performer on the PISA test, said the course material was simply too hard, two-thirds said the teacher did not get students interested in the material, and half said their teacher did not explain the concepts well or they were just unlucky. The results are very different for Shanghai. Students there believe they will succeed if they try hard and they trust their teachers to help them succeed. That tells us a lot about school education. And guess which of these two countries keeps improving and which is not? The fact that students in some countries consistently believe that achievement is mainly a product of hard work, rather than inherited intelligence, suggests that education and its social context can make a difference in instilling the values that foster success in education.

And even those who claim that the relative standing of countries in PISA mainly reflects social and cultural factors must concede that educational improvement is possible: In mathematics, countries like Brazil, Turkey, Mexico or Tunisia rose from the bottom; Italy, Portugal and the Russian Federation have advanced to the average of the industrialised world or close to it; Germany and Poland rose from average to good, and Shanghai and Singapore have moved from good to great. Indeed, of the 65 participating countries, 45 saw improvement in at least one subject area. These countries didn't change their culture, or the composition of their population, nor did they fire their teachers. They changed their education policies and practices. Learning from these countries should be our focus. We will be cheating ourselves and the children in our schools if we miss that chance..
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>>139032127
International comparisons are never easy and they aren’t perfect. But PISA shows what is possible in education, it takes away excuses from those who are complacent, and it helps countries see themselves in the mirror of the educational results and educational opportunities delivered by the world’s leaders in education. The world has become indifferent to tradition and past reputations, unforgiving of frailty and ignorant of custom or practice. Success will go to those individuals, institutions and countries which are swift to adapt, slow to complain and open to change. And the task for governments is to help citizens rise to this challenge. PISA can help to make that happen
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>>139031828
And why don't you back up your opinions with some evidence faggot I have never encountered even a preliminary informal proposal about Chinese cheating on PISA, it's just accusations by white people in newspapers and image-based bulletin boards
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>>139031828
and actually a closer look into the data, tell us that the ones actually cheating are not the Chinese
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>>139027592
We reject GLOBAL scores.
Nothing global is true.
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>>139035345
of course you do
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>>139032432

Ask anybody workign in academia if they believe any kind of chinese publication.

Since Chinese universities are a direct extension of chinese schools (and their PISA scores) that should tell you enough about their integrity.
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>>139032623
Heh. Not surprising.
I know that locally the school districts like to locate the gifted programs into the lowest scoring schools in order to boost the overall test scores.
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>>139027592
Look at Turkey way at the bottom, filthy roaches.
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>>139036151
Again, do you have any source to back up your opinions, I have never encountered even a preliminary informal proposal about them cheating on, and by the way PISA is not carried by the countries themselves but by an international contractor, in PISA 2015 survey operations were carried by Westat and sampling and weighting operations by ACER and Westat, ETS had an overall management and oversight of the project, etc., the OECD, the PISA Consortium, the contractors, etc. apply very strict conditions at all levels to make sure student data is an accurate reflection of their ability and performance, and has not involved any form of cheating
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>Ask anybody workign in academia if they believe any kind of chinese publication.
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Success breeds jealousy
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>>139037572
>china
>ip filings
lmao gtfo
>>>/r/edut
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>>139027786
Not surprising, I knew tons of white kids who didn't take a single math or science course in Grade 12 (final year) here. It varies by province, but I believe you're only required to have 3 math and 3 science credits, meaning you can take courses in those subjects from grade 9-11 and not do any gr12 ones.

And it's a joke, since the worthwhile university programs here (STEM, FIRE, accounting, medicine) have grade 12 courses in the maths and sciences as prerequisites, so you might as well not even bother applying.
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Take that, eurocucks.

US whites are more educated and smarter than you fucks.

(Except for fingols and Baltic fingols)
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>>139032166
I'll give you a pity bump for writing a fucking essay on a taiwanese lolcat distribution forum
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>No Philippines
We /dumbshit/ nao my nigger island friends?
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>>139027592
I still shed a tear every time i see that graph.
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>>139050828
Philippines will take part in PISA 2018, other countries joining in for the first time are: Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei Darussalam, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine and maybe more Chinese Provinces
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>>139027592

jesus, we stupid
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>when multiculti England has higher scores than 93% white wales
Based anon. /pol/ uses shitty iq scores from Lynn, using dodgy sources, but refuses to believe in PISA scores - the best predictor of the future of your country
Thank you once again
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>>139027592
>United Arab Emirates are rich as fuck yet still stupid
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>>139053223
Money is not everything
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>>139053223
Obviously because they have fucking oil

something like 90% of the ethnic Arab population in Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, etc. doesn't work
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>>139027592
>mfw between UK and Sweden
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>>139052925
RIP
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>>139053223
Cousin fucking.
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>>139059980

best boy
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>>139059980
BRAVO PORTUGAL!
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>>139027592
PISA is such a shit method if you are trying to find average intelligence in a country.
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>>139070197
PISA doesn't try to find the average intelligence of a whole country but to find the abilities defined in the PISA Frameworks to the PISA target poplation ("all students between 15 years and 3 [completed] months and 16 years and 2 [completed] months at the beginning of the testing period, attending educational institutions located within the adjudicated entity, and in grade 7 or higher")
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Bump for effort
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