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When did you realize Jordan Peterson was a moron?

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When did you realize Jordan Peterson was a moron?
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When I first started listening to him.

He keeps rambling and saying things without actually saying anything.
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>>139006425
i think he has some sort of personality disorder.

and that video was a record low for him. his argument is basically:
>hitler was SO EVIL that he completely ignored the war and just focused on gassing jews, that's how he lost the war!

literal lunacy, but i guess staying politically correct is worth it.
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>>139006425
Sage
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>>139006425

That was one of his most retarded videos, to be honest.
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>>139006425
>triggered by differing opinions
Take this faggot hurt feeling shit back to tumblr.
Or make an argument to defend youself. Pick one dude
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>>139006425
>Calling him a moron just because he has a different opinion to you
This is why everybody laughs at Nazis.
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just because you dont understand his big words doesnt mean hes a moron
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>>139007484
His argument was that enslaving the jews could at least have provided us germans with more resources, but even when we were losing, Hitler still went on about how germans betrayed their country by losing and killed more merchants.
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>N-no! Don't insult my ideology! I don't have anything else to live for!
That's about the kinda reply that you deserve for your poor post.
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>>139006425
JP is a hero, a man of unquestionable integrity, doesn't mean he's right about everything but he's spot on about cultural Marxism and he's the best we got.
A genuine and kind man with a brilliant mind.
Yes he's a consensus reality supporter but without this he would be deemed irrelevant and be unemployable
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>>139009133
I know but that doesn't make any sense. How did he come to be the chancellor if he was so mentally deranged/stupid? Why wouldn't he just attempt to win the war first and THEN deal with the jews?
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>>139006425
When JewTube put this vid in my suggestions.
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>>139006425
About 2 months ago. Embarrassingly late really.

>>139007484
Yeah that video was unbelievably stupid.
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>>139006425
>OP is larp
Looks like antifa hates what he said about communism.
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>>139006425
He's not, he's just an intellectual from Canada.
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>>139006425
nu-/pol/ will praise anyone who speaks out about trannies. Notice how all of their new "heroes" are filthy kikes. This board is nothing but shills and newfags now.
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>>139006425
Must be hard being a brainlet.
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TFW they unwittingly debunk the holocaust
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When he continually insisted that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible had nothing to do with homosexuality.
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>>139009133
he's very smart compared to the average person but he's actually not the brightest tool in the shed

hitler put the kikes into the camps because

1. they're subversive kikes who have vast wealth and media control and want to destroy him. it's literally like how trump would be putting the kikes in media into camps as well
2. he put them into camps and took all their wealth/gold/money/stock/companies and nationalized it all which was the best thing he could've done
3. he didn't actually plan on killing the kikes because he could've just starved them to death, put a bullet into them, or beheaded them. he wanted to send them to israel
america put japanese into concentration camps as well. we didn't lose the war otherwise it wourd've been a sex gorirra dead japanese propaganda instead
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>>139009999
that's not what he said you brainlet.
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I suspect the "Hitler more evil than you think" video is 180 degrees from what Peterson is actually saying.

>His argument was that enslaving the jews could at least have provided us germans with more resources, but even when we were losing, Hitler still went on about how germans betrayed their country by losing and killed more merchants.

He's crypto-exposing the holocaust as the propaganda piece it really is. There's no literal denial of the holocaust, just giving people enough rope to draw themselves.
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>>139009999
Checked
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>>139006425
Go clean your room anon
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>>139006425
He is smart but understandably cucked on nazis and muh holocaust. He is a product of his generation whom were utterly brainwashed into hating nazis.
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>>139009533
>How did he come to be the chancellor if he was so mentally deranged/stupid?

HAVE YOU EVER MET A GERMAN?

THEY'LL GO WITH WHOEVER HAS THE BEST CHANCE OF WRECKING EUROPE. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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Hitler was pretty evil
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>>139007484
That's not what he said dumbass, he said it was interesting to note that even while the German were getting pounded on both fronts and the Reds were in Seelow, Hitler was still moving non-existent armies around and denying all requests to ramp down on the genocide and focus entirely on the war effort. Probably even sent up a couple of me262s without any fuel too.
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>>139010082
>Logic
>on Tanzanian Fishnet Sewing Board
Shhh, you are being too logical. Be more racist I say!
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>>139010237
This is delusional. The guy is a very fervent anti-Nazi and has been for decades.
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>>139006425
Ever since some retard decided to spam him on here.
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>>139010808
If JP had any brains he would have figured out that the Holohoax was just that: a hoax.
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>>139007484
What's that got to do with political correctness, it's actually what happened, historically, Hitler was more interested in murdering jews than winning the war, Peterson is right.
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>>139006425
>"When did you realize Jordan Peterson was a moron?"
>Is NEET

lol what have you accomplished in your life? Or right. Nothing and probably won't even accomplish anything.
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>>139006425

Teaches about the gulag archipelago but refuses to acknowledge Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn other seminal work.

Will never tell his students the truth, what Hitler knew to be true about the communists

Has said on video that he has lots of jewish professor friends, simple because jews have a higher iq and have a strong cultural emphasis on education
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>>139011055
he literally says you have to admire hitler in one video

he certainly rejects the extreme ideologies but he isnt exactly doing the kikes favors considering google banned him once
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>>139006425
Nice meme flag, nigger.
>all fields
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>>139006425
The things he talks about in the video isn't really historically factual. Considering Hitler used jews, gypsies etc as labourers to the end of the war.
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>>139011270
>believing in the holohoax
Lurk more, or get your kikery out of here shareblue
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>>139009133
It's historically wrong m80y
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My only exposure to him was in San Harris's podcast. Peterson came across like a complete retard; the most embarrassing on that podcast I can remember.
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Everything he says is pure mumbo jumbo

>Slay the dragon and free your father after cleaning your room

Wow makes sense, really changed my life.
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>>139006425
When he started bashing National Socialism.
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jordan peterson is really fun to listen to when he's talking about something he's an expert about, like psychiatry and psychology and therapy. the problem with peterson is the same as nigger gas tyson, he starts drawing parallels between his expertise and things outside the domain of his expertise, and uses his model of thinking to create models of those things outside the domain of his expertise.

i like him. he's definitely not dumb. he's a victim of what a lot of smart people become victims to...being so intelligent that he doesn't question the validity of his premises, therefore reaching conclusions that are likely untrue, because his premises are based on unverified (and bad) data.
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>>139006425
When he started talking about how we needed god.
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He's just some patriarchal retard who panders only to men and thinks women should give up their careers.

What a fucking idiot. Why is it that in 2017 you still have people promoting scrappy conservative values? This isn't the 1960s anymore and its time to move on and PROGRESS. Also women are doing well and better than ever.

>b b but muh male depression doe
This is why we NEED feminism. Feminism helps men.

So many men are depressed because they can't express their feelings. Feminism can help men express their feelings and femininity without being judged as 'gay" etc, and this will help men.
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>>139006425
Larping faggot, you aren't fooling anyone but yourself.
Sage
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>>139006425
the moment i heard his faggy voice
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>>139007484
Hitler only started the war because he was a bitter fuck, jealous of how successful Jews are, and this intimidated his frail views on his own ethnicity success.

Also everyone knew that he sperged out and hated Jewish people in the first place was because he was rejected by a Jewish woman, which later on helped him start the war and attack Jewish people

He a literally a school shooter, but just on a bigger . A tal fucking loser. Just like his confederate buddies in the 1860s
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>>139008786
Hus argument is just
>hitler was so evil therefore he must have been so evil!
Ignoring that if it wouldn't have made sense to gas tons of Jews, maybe he didn't gas them. Maybe he put them in work camps and they died of starvation and typhus when supply lines were destroyed.
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>>139007212
This. Snake oil salesman like all psychologists
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>>139006425
never. but i've been realizing that natsocs are stupid more and more over the last 6 months.
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>>139006425
>Have an ideology stressing survival of the fittest.
>Lose the only war you ever engage in to the point that your ideology no longer exists outside a few tiny bitter groups.
When did you realise Nazis are even bigger morons?
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>>139013399
>>139014090
WOKE
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>>139013162
ah the fedora "i am very smart" atheist. JP shook me out of that phase and thank god for that
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>>139013399

wow, are you a faggot or what?
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>>139008906
I don't have a dog in this race , but from my perspective -- at least in the US -- the left is doing more damage to public discourse than the right.
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>>139006425
When he started talking about Nietzsche in the first video I ever watched.
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>>139006425
he's a moron because he agrees with 99.9% of the world that hitler was evil? nice work anon go clean your room
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>>139006425
When I read his Plebbit AMA
Absolute lightweight at best.
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>>139014845
>thank god
which one?
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>>139006425
JP is great, but he's modernizing the Bible too much in his Bible series. It's still fun though. Also, he really should read more about Stalin, it's annoying that he keeps quoting Cold War propaganda statistics as actual fats. Stalin wasn't a nice guy, but life in Stalin's Russia wasn't nearly as horrible as he pretends it was. My grandma lived under Stalin, she loved Stalin and USSR and she was a great person.
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>>139010265
Yeah this was it. Watched like 6 hours of his shit and then this happened. What a fucking idiot. I'll just read Jung instead.
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i think he's very very hard stuck in regards to jews.

he can't admit their crimes, not does he want to see their effect on the current political climate, despite all the (((coincidental))) events leading up to it.

he's hard stuck on denying the JQ, despite having full intelligence and straight resources to have at least been able to connect a few dots. he will probably never change his opinion.

that's why his hitler argument was so retarded. he can't see why anyone would go out of their way to try kill them all, thinking it madness when it was just a reaction to what happened in germany prior, as well as people in general being a lot less empathetic towards other races back then.

soz for ramble, 6am here
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>>139007484
His kind of right though. Looking back now, if it wasn't for all the Jewish shit Hitler would've been remember as another Napoleon or like Alexander the Great. They were both brutal dictators and conquered a lot of land, but nobody thinks they're literal Satan.
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>>139006425
Hitler was a man. A living, breathing man.
What do they think they'll achieve when they try to turn him into cartoonish sensless monster? There will be obviously a counter reaction when a person starts to learn more about actual Adolf Hitler and his deeds.
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>>139015381
Evil is an almost entirely meaningless term in the modern world. There's no "evil" for materialists, whether they admit it or not.
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>>139014845
Memes aside, and no offence (I know we're on 4chinz) but you must not be a very very bright individual if JP influenced you in any way, let alone on something so important.
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>>139010808
Thats because there was no genocide...
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>>139006425
He's right. He didn't finish the job and left nationalism with a poor image.
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im just checking to see if i got banned.
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>>139006425

it's impossible for him to speak for a single session without drawing extremely ridiculous extrapolations of literature / history that are basically schizo tier backwards reasonings for why things had happened

ie in the maps of meaning lectures he does he spews off the underlying meaning of egyptian mythology with ridiculous bullshit

if you really want to hear how full of shit he is just listen for the section in the maps of meaning lectures he has done where he talks about egyptian mythology. it's 100% obvious bullshit and a lot of other things he says are the same type of thinking
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>>139010794
>Says the murderous turkroach
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>>139014594
You realize that Jews are implementing ethnonationalism and ethnocentricism on exactly the foundation that Hitler created, and it is nothing less than the greatest ethnic success in history? Nazis are to white people as Israelites are to Jews. The model works just fine, its the implementation of the model in white nation that has been subverted over and over.

Germany as a National Socialist country of 80 million was able to defeat a liberal democracy France of 60 million, a Communist USSR of 120 million, and capitalist democracy Britain of 50 million, with little to no help from "allies" like Italy (only ever seriously operated in the Med), and Japan (who only provided moral support while assaulting East Asia). Only with the tipping point of a Nationalist US of 200 million could the stranglehold of the European continent be broken. A stranglehold by less than 1/5 the population of Europe.

Now we see a tribe, a race, a nationalistic ethnicity that controls the policies, thoughts, and politics (and through that the military) of Europe and the USA from its little perch of 6 million on a desert beach of the mediterranean, and some 10 million abroad, by acting with strength and conviction, in concert and with the guiding light this: the Jewish people must do all it can to ensure it's existence.
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>>139015821
>thinking it madness
It really was just the usual class struggle. US kills whities, USSR killed the rich, Hitler killed Jews. That's just poor people killing rich people and taking their money, nothing more. Racial shit is a justification, nothing more.
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>>139010082
>brightest tool in the shed
>brightest
I don't think you have any basis to say this, burger.
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I realized it whhe kept trying to stress to everyone about how much of a non racist he was and surround himself with loo poos. This man is the equivalent o having some over analytical dad lecture you.
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>>139007212
This actually what academics do in most of their papers
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>>139006425
I wonder what he did that rustled your jimmies. Debunk shit tier national socialism and communism perhaps?

Antifags like you should hang themselves.
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>>139009780
I think JP is an interesting guy but the video in OP's pic didn't activate the almonds
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>>139014946
Is this your argument?

Anyway I support gender equality. Men shouldn't be called gay because they cry on their brothers shouldier. Patriarchal views are dangerous, and yes , dangerous to men too
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>>139016124
Actually money is a codification of scarce resources, and the value of those resources is only explainable through the larger concept of biological telos found at the heart of ethnic solidarity.

Nothing has value untli you realizing we are competing for the realization of a goal. Understanding that goal is central to understanding the reasons people do what they do.
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He knows about the kikes, how could he not? After all he is all to familiar with solzhenitsyns' works. But to go there would be too risky, and I don't blame him. After all, (((they))) would just use it as an excuse to shut him down. We need him to reach as many people as possible. Also, good teachers should lead you to the greatest thinkers, but not dictate to you their personal opinions too much.
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>>139006425
Brainlet tier thread
Go float yourself
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>>139014198
>lacking basic comprehension skills this badly
You fucking idiot, that wasn't his argument at all. His argument was that Hitler was a dipshit of a tactician and made several significant fuckups during the war because he was more concerned with gassing jews instead of actually winning the war.

Gas yourself faggot.
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>>139016421
Leave roastie
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>>139006425
Hitler was evil though.
He was a retarded autistic austrian failed painter that had a way with words and good ideas that thought it was a good idea to invade Russia in the winter.
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>>139010808
So do you have any actual evidence of this or do we just accept JP's babbling because it's illegal to question anything holohoax?

I'm interested in something well cited with primary sources, not Jewish circlekiking.
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>>139006425
Since first being introduced to him.

I honestly think many of your retards need him though.

The whole "clean your room, do your laundry" thing really is the first steps you need to start becoming a man and not a retarded slob.
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>>139006425
>>139007484
He unironically exposes how insane and delusional the holohoax. It's not because "Hitler was stupid/insane" it's because the narrative is a lie and cannot make sense -- defending it or trying to make sense of it just reveals lunacy, arguing a position you don't even understand.
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>>139016407
There was nothing that got debunked, he over simplifies issues and acts like it's all on the individual to makea better a world. His viewscoincide with what every dad is telling to their child without being too pushy about leftist agendas that the younger generation is trying to push.

He is so caught up in identity politics that he went after some journalist who called him right wing. If this man was truly shaping the world around him rather than caring about how he looks, he wouldn't give a damn.
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>>139006425
>realising that if you want your message to be heard it has to come through in stages instead of one giant anal suppository red pill
>moron
okay
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>>139011362
Actually doing relevant and useful work for my community/nation rather than degenerative snake-oil intellectualism.
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>>139006425

no, but you are.
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>>139016728
No, what he's saying in the video is that Hitler was self-destructive and that makes him more evil because he wasn't even trying to bring about what his own ideals by the end - just cause the most mayhem. It seems JP places Chaotic Evil at the far end of the spectrum of "Evil".

It's a bit shortsighted of him though, wasn't the most zealous about murdering Jews even if we accept the current consensus.
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His "debate" with Sam Harris
it was painful to listen to
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>>139016626
Leading people to the greatest thinkers is dictating personal opinions. You just define the "greatest thinkers" as your personal favorite. Hitler was the central, most influential figure of the 20th century, yet almost nothing is taught of his personal beliefs and philosophy.
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>>139007484
he's right tho
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>>139016232
>a britcuck pipes up

Quiet down, you lot are a diamond dozen.
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>>139006425
When Sam Harris ass fucked him with his big jewish cock in their debate about truth.
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>>139016977
It was about the collective rage in a society that was wielded against a foreign population that that has history of trying to dominate the culture of it's host
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>>139006425
>Canadian

Knew he was an idiot from the beginning.
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>>139006425
when I read this fucking tweet
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>>139016728
>His argument was that Hitler was a dipshit of a tactician and made several significant fuckups during the war because he was more concerned with gassing jews instead of actually winning the war.
No, his argument in his words is that Hitler did not intend to win the war but rather intended only for the war to be destructive and cause utter mayhem, for no other reason than that he was evil and loved mayhem, which he backwardsly derives by saying that since he was responsible for the war and the mayhem, that must have been his intention. Are JPs acolytes really so stupid that they don't actually understand the simple sentences that he constructs?
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>>139009533
How did Mao? It is not really an argument since history is filled with leaders making bad decisions. Hitler was not stupid, I don't think anyone is claiming that he had a low iq. But sometimes high iq people do really dumb things, often actually.
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>>139006425
>No, if we assume hitler was a rational actor it would make no sense to kill 6000000 people like that...
FUCKING BA-
>so that means hitler was le cartoon evil psyco who just wanted chaos
-D
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>>139017438
>Are JPs acolytes really so stupid that they don't actually understand the simple sentences that he constructs?
Evidently.
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>>139017332
Jesus Christ. Blind faith in literally anything can be a valid axiom for a life philosophy by that argument.
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>>139017707
lol
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>>139017113
>Hitler was the central, most influential figure of the 20th century

I got a clip of one of his speeches in E;R's video on that gay kid's cartoon show.

I think further scrutinizing his thoughts would have a dramatic impact on society and advance political thought, mainly because of the censorship that surrounds his thoughts. It's no secret that powerwill do all it can to perpetuate itself, why suppress the thoughts of someone who is acknowledged as such a big figure in politics of the 20th century?
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>>139017707
kek
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>>139017139
>diamond dozen
the saying is "a dime a dozen" - meaning cheap and plentiful.
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>>139016977
This, it should be obvious to anyone understanding this point that the holohoax would have been absurd. Like you're losing the war but you're busy torturing people to death with weird contraptions? You're getting low on manpower but you have perfectly good troops having fun making Jews stay in a swimming pool until they drown?
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>>139018157
hownew.ru
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>>139006425
Not a moron per se, but I think he sees meaning and patterns where there aren't, like when he went on about hidden meaning behind the earlier Disney movies like Pinocchio and the Lion King. "Alright he's just making shit up now."

And then there's the not-so-subtle value judgements based on things that are more opinion than fact.
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>>139018157
Yeah, sure. Why don't you stop lying. I know it's a doggy dog world, but that doesn't mean you have to be an asshole
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>>139007212
More likely that youre a brainlet tbqh
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>>139006425

I know this will sound silly

But the moment he started pushing people to get jobs after graduating, I know something was fucky.

He wants more slaves moving money around so his 2.7 million net worth can hold ground.
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>>139017977
They teach that you should try to understand everyone's perspective and hear everyone out and then overtly contradict those teachings. That's cultural marxism for you.
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>>139014090
That is perhaps the dumbest post in this thread. You honestly come of as a jew.
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>>139006425
No joke. I immediately stopped watching 5 seconds into the first and only video I ever attempted to watch. He has that "moron voice".
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>>139018343
doggy dog. kys dawg
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>>139016614
I'm sorry, I didn't order the services of online definition provider. I'm afraid you've provided the definition of the word I used for free.
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>>139014090
wow. here i thought it was because of the bolshevik revolution in russia, and the failed commie revolutions in czechoslovakia, romania, hungary, austria, and poland. not to mention the holodomor in ukraine. thanks for straightening me out.
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>>139018548
Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like itā€™s a peach of cake.
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>>139009773
>Embarrassingly late
Devon Tracey fan detected
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>>139006425
>Hitler should have enslaved Jews and gypsies
yeah genius the camps were all about labour, von Braun in America even caught some heat because slave labour was involved in the V2
>but the holohoax proves Hitler didn't want to win
it's like Peterson was so close to figuring out the truth but instead he chose to be a good goy and make up a crazy rationalisation
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>>139018701
Germany was the one who supported the revolution, retardo. If it wasn't for German support there would be no USSR, Lenin wouldn't even be in Russia for the revolution if it wasn't for Germany.
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>>139015646
>solzhenitsin
>cold war propaganda
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>>139018837
>it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once.

I kek'd
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>>139011371
He would REALLY ruin his career if he said the truth. He's a good redpill but has to toe the line at some points.
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>>139008906
If you're a nazi and you think the "Hitler is evil" is a transparent lie, it makes sense to think Peterson is a moron.
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just another pseud intellectual for the sheep to follow.

before it was sam harris and nu-atheism

same people now listen to memerson's non-arguments about post-modernity and communism and turned to nu-christians

average /pol/lack is so easily persuaded its not even funny, just post 3 minute meme soundbite and boom
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>>139019000
It actually literally 100 percent is. Solzhenitsin wrote fiction that post-Stalin Soviet government used in their destalinization propaganda and that fictional propaganda was repeated in the west. Khrushchev was pretty retarded, he didn't realize his destalinization effort will become an anti-soviet weapon abroad, he only cared about local propaganda.
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>>139018343
fuckin jews derailing threads from the straightened arrow path.
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>>139017113
Yeh, I get you. Cheers for that. Hitler would be the perfect example of 'sorting yourself out'. He shouldered the ultimate responsibility, and JP is always talking about taking on responsibility and driving forwards. Yet, as we live in weird times, I would just worry that if he mentioned the jews, they would shut him down on the internet. I guess he should shoulder greater responsibility himself and bring it up. Maybe he has enough power and money to take the risk now.
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>>139019624
cool it antifa
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>>139006425
Yeah, he's basically a lolbertarian retard making a living by blatantly ripping off of Jung.
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>>139006425
2 weeks after I heard about him and started listing to his lectures and his erroneous analysis of the Bible.
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when he had to shill himself on pol
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>>139015930
This board is full of impressionable teens.
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>>139006425
I heard he fucks little boys. And eats them afterwards. Because he fundamentally dishonest when he criticises jesu... I mean Saint Hitler.
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>>139006425
When he began shilling for the Jew, senpai.
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>>139009365
This.
I hold this man high in reverence.
He is smart, good-hearted, and albeit a little naive, he's on our (right) side.
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>>139016757
>make intellectuals

USA will be a matriarchy under Ivanka leadership
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>all these 1 post by this id
Really makes me think and sage.
Shekelsteinberg is afraid.
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>>139006425
>kike-loving boomer who teaches you how to be a good (((useful))) goy
Why is this even here? Had kekistanis gone too far?
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>>139019599
>comrade, publish this localized propaganda 3000 miles away. syka blat.
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>>139011270
>ID
>Ass
Checks out
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>>139019894
What is he afraid of? Certainly not of this goodest of goyim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKL3MsKRtJo
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>>139012718
>being so intelligent that he doesn't question the validity of his premises, therefore reaching conclusions that are likely untrue, because his premises are based on unverified (and bad) data.
how is that intelligent then?
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>>139015605
Absolutely fukken saved
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>>139020193
He reeks of autism.
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>>139012381
2nd podcast was much better.
Jordan was just being stubborn in the first, and I respect him for sticking to his beliefs.
>>139013399
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhno
Kys
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>>139019972
Moron.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/during-cold-war-cia-used-doctor-zhivago-as-a-tool-to-undermine-soviet-union/2014/04/05/2ef3d9c6-b9ee-11e3-9a05-c739f29ccb08_story.html
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>>139020502
Please archive or screenshot https://unvis.it/washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/during-cold-war-cia-used-doctor-zhivago-as-a-tool-to-undermine-soviet-union/2014/04/05/2ef3d9c6-b9ee-11e3-9a05-c739f29ccb08_story.html
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>>139014090
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>>139017332
>This is nupol's intellectual hero
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>>139006425
THIS JUST IN
OP IS A LIBERAL FAG TRYING TO SHIT ON JP
SEE HER REPLIES, GROSS
SAGE AND MOVE ON
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>>139006425
When did you stop beating your wife?
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>>139006425
oh hai gais
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>>139007484
Yeah, it's totally can't be a subtle way to get people to say "hey, wait just a minute"
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>>139020922
How many of these youtube talking heads monetizing new trend tell the truth about kikes?
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All this circlejerking around Enlightenment liberalism and individualism is what prevents conservatives from making a cogent defense against the social justice / far left attack. White identity politics is in direct conflict with the egalitarianism of classical liberalism, and people like Spencer recognize these flaws and rightly critique them.

That's my main critique of Jordan Peterson. His works from the same axioms of Enlightenment liberalism. If you start from the wrong axioms, you're ill-equipped to deal with the current issues we're facing. You lack the necessary vocabulary to engage far-left and alt right ideas when you can only envision things in terms of individualism. He is on record as saying 'If enough people just sort themselves out and clean their room the ideological mess will just evaporate'. What a crock of shit. The house is on fire and he wants us to clean our room. His rejection of white identity politics is short sighted and you'd have to be blind to believe that the solution to demographic replacement is liberty and individualism.
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>>139021113
>muh kikes

Hi Shareblue.

When are you guys gonna get sick of this same old shit?
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>>139009133
And what might that argument do to people who have yet to question the official telling of events? Som
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>>139021092
it COULD, however let's all remember that we're dealing with a fucking leaf.
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>>139020922
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>>139018226
Had he sad that directly, he would obviously be fired, but that's precisely right.
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>>139006425
It's pretty obvious that after his new-found eceleb status he became narcissistic as fuck, i can feel his fucking huge ego emanating from the screen whenever i watch him walk around the stage like a faggot pausing for abnormally long times as though what he's saying is gospel. very obnoxious
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>>139021154
Decent post but what's with the flag?
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>>139006425
hitler dindu nuffin
need mo money for dem pogroms
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>>139007212
His words have meanings they are just over your head in comprehension
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>>139021319
TouchƩ
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>>139021346
>It's pretty obvious that after his new-found eceleb status he became narcissistic as fuck
always ends the same
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>>139006425
When he said he was christian.
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>>139006425
when I found out he was a christian philosopher
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>>139021246
Oh, i forgot where i am. I'm sorry, next time i will praise based black men and based Israel just like you!
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Entire thread is full of what smells to be leftist shills trying to label Peterson a Nazi when for the past decades he's spoken against ideologues on both sides and describes himself as a individualist.
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>>139021246
that drawing is so fucking embarrassing wtf happened to ben
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>>139006425
from the first time i heard him, it was obvious he was using way yo many words to say what could be said much simpler
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>>139015850
NapolƩon was an antisemite.
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>>139021704
That's the world today.
Much like on here, everyone is niggers, out there, everyone is Nazis.
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wy do nazis always ignore the "socialism" in "national socialism"
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>>139019301
Wait, is Jordan Peterson a Christian?

Hell yeah, I like him now.
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>Peterson is bad because Hitler

the only thing I realized is that this board is a moronic joke
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>>139006425
Glad I never fell for the Peterson meme.
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>>139021704
Many people here just dislike eager shabbos goyim.
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>>139021937
Its ok to be a welfare leech if you're a white man
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>>139021937
National Socialism is ok when you are all white. We only hate in America because all the niggers and spics stand to benefit from it, while dragging us down to their level.

Duh.
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>>139021937
Why do ancaps ignore the anarchy in "anarcho capitalism?" National Soclaists actually don't ignore socialism, as there is nothing wrong with providing for your own people.
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>>139021971
Milo is an agent.
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>>139021374
Just memeing.

>>139021937
>ancaps
>being useful in the fight for white identity at all

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with a system that looks out for the good of the community.
Nevermind that in a white state, it's sustainable. If you measure contributions versus welfare consumption, hispanics and blacks are net negatives, whites are net positives.
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>>139022026
And how is JP a shabbos goy?
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>>139021937
>natsoc is marxist socialism meme again
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>>139021971
It became bad when the jew and nigger loving civic nationalist cuckolds invaded from T_D
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>>139013399
please leave this board. you have no business here.
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>>139006425
Divide and conquer, you got a fag flag and everything. It's like pottery.
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>>139022592
>>139020193
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>>139012718
Fair enough, but he often says he's thinking through ideas. I don't think he's settled in his conclusions, and listeningto him think through things is what I like about him.
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>>139022773
>jewish flag

pottery. nice try Shlomo
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>>139021937
Because Socialism actually works, but (((Socialism))) isn't Socialism and it's this (((Socialism))) that's often implemented in already shithole countries. Countries that use any kind of Socialism generally have millions upon millions of freeloading non-white subhumans weakening the system. So when it eventually collapses, because it will, some (((random))) "person" will pop-up and say "Hey, goys! I just read this great (((book))) and I know where we're going wrong! It's because of Socialism, but this "new", hip and groovy kind of (((Socialism))) will change all of that!". Cue, retarded goys, like yourself, eating it up.
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>>139006425
That's a moronic suggestion. Peterson's a bit circuitous in his lectures but no moron.
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>>139006425
Everyone besides me is a moron.

What is important is that he is an useful moron, while you are not.
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>>139021937
Because capitalism is fucking jewish fuckery.
Anarcho capitalism, is basically corporate mob-rule, don't believe me? look at antifa, its basically happening right now.
Capitalism requires people to be smart, and people are fucking dumb, and the dumb are affecting the working-class. Pluss corporations to big to fail can never be to evil, because they can never be taken down without violating the NAP, and theres a bunch of more problems, maybe to much freedoms is what has lead us to what we are seeing in america today.
Perhaps we need a strong tax-payer funded police force, armed with flamethrowers in case people turn in to mobs.
Or simply deport every nigger and subhuman that will not seek to better their own carrier in this world of constant struggle.
perhaps corporations, to big to fail, should be controlled by the state, rather than the other way around.
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>>139022803
>Jews are very intelligent and hold a lot of positions of responsibility and authority, and if they're a minority they should have the decency to let some things go and fail once and awhile otherwise you'll be annoying to everyone around you

Such a shabbos goy
*hits joint*
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>>139006425
said the nigger commie faggot
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>>139023422
see >>139017332
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>>139006425
The moment I understood his life philosophy sacrifices logic for a totalitarian sense of 'good'.

If his collectivist idealism was enough to keep him blind about simple matters like the inferiority of women on emotional or intellectual grounds; he even got out argued by Mgtows into issuing an apology, then how can I trust his judgement on matters like God, political economy or psychology?
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>>139007212
>without actually saying anything
you are just too retarded to understand. he gives a lot of meaningful advice that can be applied to real life
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>>139009133
>enslaving the jews could at least have provided us germans with more resources
That's exactly what he did, you utter moron. The concentration camps were essentially slave labor camps. He didn't gas them, the Nazis did not gas a single Jew. Is this what /pol/ is now? A bunch of Holocaust believing intellectual cowards? Fuck you, you disgusting imbecile.
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>>139006425
You can clearly see that hes a kike. Look at his face he probably oils his curly jew hair too not make it seem too obvious
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>/pol/ denies the holocaust
>yet thinks that corporations pushing for more cheap labor in America and Europe equates to "White Genocide"

laughable
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>>139018264
Pinocchio isn't an early Disney movie you juicebox slurping retard.
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>>139021346
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>>139021540
This. And he's an academic, so he takes a long time and a lot of words to make his points. If you don't have much working memory, it's hard to follow.
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>>139006425
When he started talking about how elon musk was going to save the world.

I mean, fine, you can't know everything, but you'd think someone like him wouldn't be prone to wishful thinking.
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>>139023941
>He didn't gas them, the Nazis did not gas a single Jew. Is this what /pol/ is now? A bunch of Holocaust believing intellectual cowards? Fuck you, you disgusting imbecile.
Forced confessions and torture at the Nuremberg trials huh? The decision to destroy the Jews was a pragmatic and logical act on the part of the Nazis.

>if you kill your enemies, they win

Holocaust was rad as fuck
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>>139006425
He's right when you take off the ironic shitposting faggot.
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>>139006425
I can't express the reasoning for his statement in a 4chan post.
Also I am drinking.
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>>139024319
The Holocaust didn't happen. This is a well established fact at this point. The only way to believe it is to forego any reason and logic in favor of faith, which is what people like Jordan Peterson do.
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>>139024606
>The Holocaust didn't happen. This is a well established fact at this point.
neat, show me this proof
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>>139023941
>labor camps
So just like GULAG then? Why doesn't /pol/ shut up about how Stalin killed billions while they were just labor reeducation camps?
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>>139023547
You don't have grounds to determine a person's a moron based on a single tweet. Watching this vid is sufficient grounds to disprove your claim. He's undeniably highly intelligent. Doesn't mean everything he says is right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_fBYROA7Hk
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He never shuts up about IQ. It's anoying

inb4

>Her derr you have low IQ

That is a strawman argument that keeps this never ending IQ wank fest eternal...... IQ is pretty important, if your IQ is under 100 then you are pretty close to being fucked. Other than that, I'm really tired of hearing about it.
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>>139024682
Really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
If you haven't seen this video yet, you must be a newfag.
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>>139024721
Communists are better at not caring about who or why they kill. Clearly the better genociders.

Mao world champ.
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>>139007212
He is definitely very repetitive
>>139006425
My biggest gripe is he uses the same examples over and over and over
Yea nigger lobsters have serotonin receptors, why not use another animal, or talk about how trees that are larger and dominant make more seeds
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>>139017332
>(as Godel proved)

Pop-math upsets me.
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>>139024855
>YouTube videos
I like written information from people who don't sound like 17 year old Satanists. Who the fuck made this video you retard?
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>>139024918
Yeah I don't really feel one way or an other about him at this point, I'm just bored of his content.
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>>139024779
>psychologist
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>>139025026
He goes over primary sources, and debunks them. You know. Primary sources. Where we have our numbers for the dead, and the methods for extermination, and pretty much every single thing the narrative of the Holocaust is built on? Oh wait, no, I'm talking to a subhuman leaf. You wouldn't be able to form a singular abstract thought if you spent your whole life trying.
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>>139022611
He didn't say marxist socialism, he said socialism.
Which is true.
It is socialism.
Which is why it failed.
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>>139025364
>He goes over primary sources, and debunks them. You know. Primary sources.
In a four hour long video and I don't even know who the guy is.

>Where we have our numbers for the dead, and the methods for extermination, and pretty much every single thing the narrative of the Holocaust is built on? Oh wait, no, I'm talking to a subhuman leaf. You wouldn't be able to form a singular abstract thought if you spent your whole life trying.
You don't prove your position by posting YouTube videos.
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>>139025595
You explain how they creamated six million bodies in less than 5 years.
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>>139010808
>Reds were in Seelow, Hitler was still moving non-existent armies around and denying all requests to ramp down on the genocide and focus entirely on the war effort.

Gonna need a primary source on that.
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>>139020502
>unironically citing WaPo
Lmao
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>>139025790
They didn't cremate 6 million bodies and probably didn't even kill as many as 6 million Jews anyway.
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>>139025595
>a four hour long video
Believe it or not, but when it comes to one of the most politically significant events in human history, there is a lot of material to go over. Isn't that just fucking crazy?

>I don't even know who the guy is
You don't need to know who the fucking guy is, you just need to know his methodology and the sources he goes over, you dumb shit. How do you breathe?
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>>139016880
>clamoring for evidence
>believing holocaust was a hoax

laff'd
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>>139025913
that's holocaust denial too.
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>>139025959
>Believe it or not, but when it comes to one of the most politically significant events in human history, there is a lot of material to go over. Isn't that just fucking crazy?
Yeah it's pretty fucking crazy to presuppose your position is based in absolute well established fact and provide a 4 hour video as proof of that fact.

>You don't need to know who the fucking guy is
Yeah, I think I really do. It's important for to know who's pushing the message if they're a Jew, correct?

>you just need to know his methodology and the sources he goes over
>muh sources
>not understanding the nature of truth
This is all you fags do now and think debating and arguing your position is, throwing sources at each other. I'm not saying the Holocaust did or didn't happen, I just have a belief it did for particular reasons that I've stated above.
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>>139016880
I'm interested in yours as well.
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>>139026366
Primary sources don't determine historical truth? Physical experiments demonstrating the impossibility of described executions don't determine historical truth? Basic math doesn't debunk insane impossible claims? What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm done with you.
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>>139014090
wtf i love jews now
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>>139014090
If Germany decides they don't want greedy selfish immoral infiltrators pillaging their country anymore.... then who is to say that they can't have them removed?
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>>139026696
>Primary sources don't determine historical truth?
Not in the slightest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology

> Physical experiments demonstrating the impossibility of described executions don't determine historical truth?
If your presupposition is they were ALL gassed and ALL cremated. It's not impossible to murder 6 million intentionally within 6-7 years, and I'm not even sure 4 million Jews were killed.

The total number is 12 million, half of them Jews. Still not impossible to do within 6 years.

>Basic math doesn't debunk insane impossible claims?
Read above.

>What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm done with you.
I know you are, because you're a dumb ass.
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>>139027079
It wouldn't be the first time
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>>139026093
No it's not, it's denial of the scope.
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>>139018383
>>139021540
>>139023939
>1 post by this ID
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>>139007212
this
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>>139006425
>I disagree with this man who is clearly smarter than myself and has a stated IQ of about 150
>he must be a moron

I fucking hate this board, honestly
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>>139027257
Still prison time. You'd better hope the Tribunal doesn't hear what you've done.
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>>139006425
>Even Hitler was literally worse than Hitler!

They're caught in a feedback loop.
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>>139027497
Trump has a stated IQ of 149. Fuck yourself Muhammed.
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this whole thread
>buttmad brainletts
>anal ravaged nazis
>r3ddit spacing shills
>pseudo intellectual fedora tippers
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>>139027499
Nobody goes to prison for Holocaust denial in Canada and I wouldn't even if it was an imprisonable offence, as I didn't deny the Holocaust.
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>>139027864
>that super cool radical centrist who doesn't wear a real flag and posts the reaction image
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>>139027674
I think you forgot to construct an actual point in your blind rage, sir.
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>>139011371
do you seriously expect him to go around dropping jew redpills? he'd be kicked out of his university and maybe even thrown in jail

pol has no appreciation for subtly, he is a good first step on redpilling normies
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>>139027876
No, you don't go to prison for it. They fine you an amount of cash for denying the holocaust that you cannot reasonably pay, then they send you to prison for not paying your debt.
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>>139014090
why do shitposting trolls always get epic gets?
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>>139028110
>They fine you an amount of cash for denying the holocaust that you cannot reasonably pay, then they send you to prison for not paying your debt.
No.
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>>139027259
>wasting time arguing with shills
nigga I know that jordan is the real shit, I've put my life in order because of him
6 months ago I was a unproductive almost friendless stoner, one step away from dropping out from my engineering studies. after watching his lectures and getting into his stuff I've quit weed and tobacco, stopped masturbating, started working out, reading philosophy and politics, I've even started socializing. I just came back from my week-long vacation with a long-lost friend I recently came back in contact with, and for the first time in my life I enjoyed chilling at the beach and hanging out with people
whatever you say though, keep shilling and blaming all your shortcomings to someone else. I'll be sorting myself out and making plans for the future.
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>>139027987
>a fucking leaf
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>>139028073
This. He speaks out on Bolshevik communism, and marxism..... he knows the (((truth))) is just smarter than that. He doesn't speak out against Jews, but he is actively trying to undo everything they are causing. That's how you beat the Jew by the way, because as soon you say the word Jew we all know what happens.

"OY VEY, IT"S ANOTHA SHOAH! RACIST! NAZI!"
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>>139006425
when he told me I needed to clean my room I knew
he was a jew
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>>139006425
>he disagrees with me on one single thing, that makes him a misogynist shitlord
>he disagrees with me on one single thing, that makes him a jew cuck
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>>139027876
>In 1984, James Keegstra, a Canadian high-school teacher, was charged under the Canadian Criminal Code for "promoting hatred against an identifiable group by communicating anti-Semitic statements to his students". During class, he would describe Jews as a people of profound evil who had "created the Holocaust to gain sympathy." He also tested his students in exams on his theories and opinion of Jews.

>Keegstra was charged under s 281.2 of the Criminal Code (now s 319, which provides that "Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group" commits a criminal offence. He was convicted at trial before the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench. The court rejected the argument, advanced by Keegstra and his lawyer, Doug Christie, that promoting hatred is a constitutionally protected freedom of expression as per s 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Keegstra appealed to the Alberta Court of Appeal. That court agreed with Keegstra, and he was acquitted.

>The Crown then appealed the case to the Supreme Court of Canada, which ruled by a 4-3 majority that promoting hatred could be justifiably restricted under s 1 of the Charter. The Supreme Court restored Keegstra's conviction. He was fired from his teaching position shortly afterwards.

The year just smacks of irony.
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>>139028334
why? does your mom do this for you?
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>>139028037
Stupid bong - > people with high IQ can never be dumb.
americanon - > trump

The same trump that sent 50 tomahawks in to syria only for a 8% hit-rate.

Did Jordan Peterson tell you IQ makes you always right?
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>>139028378
All I'd say to that guy is don't go full 14/88 and make it part of the high school curriculum in the current year. Maybe teach about intellectuals like Norman Finkelstein who expose Holocaust crocodile tears with reasonable debate.

Plus the point was you said I'd get slapped with a fine I can't pay for Holocaust denial that isn't even Holocaust denial. This guy didn't have to pay a cent.
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>>139028731

(((Finkelstein)))
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>>139028073
Nothing like jail will happen, especially if to be less direct, which is he perfectly capable of. He just values his dank shekels from parteon more than truth. Or even can actually be engaged in next level of subversion when he uses his influence on dissatisfied and questioning men to teach them le ebin kekistani sort out memes and how to be a useful goy who contributes to (((status quo))), preventing them from finding out truth and becoming enemy of the jew - in this case this fucker is more abhorrent (and more dangerous) that some kike professor spreading anti-white marxism.
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>>139028692
I never said Peterson was always right and that high IQ people are always smart, I just find it fucking stupid when 1488er /pol/acks get all buttblasted that Jordan isn't a holocaust-denying rabid fascist.
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>>139029020
>being retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0CulhsQkTA
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>>139006425
When you are in your 40s and you are still stuck in a sociology pseudo-science department.
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>>139007212
He's a pseudo intellectual
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>>139028037
His point is that even if you have an IQ which is uncomporable to anyone else you can still be wrong.
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>>139029256

(((Anonymous 2eDSTQp1)))
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>>139029020
It's like people like you are intentionally delusional and unaware of reality. You deny Jews who fought for the Reich, Jews who served in the SS and SA and the fact that Hitler had a soft spot for one particular Jew that happened to treat his mother's breast cancer when he was younger. There are some few good Jews that did and do more for the white race than you would ever hope to.

Went as far as giving him Gestapo protection and let him go to the United States.
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>>139029476
fixed it for you
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>>139029476
>don't step on my snake or try and teach me anything
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>>139027497
>if someone is smart then they can't have stupid opinions
Sure, sure. Tbh it's not a question of stupidity, he's just too cucked/indoctrinated by the cult of the shoah to think about it straight.
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>>139029476
>>139029582
>unironically saying I'm a kike for posting kikes who are subversive to Judaism and Zionism
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>>139028218
oh look it's another testimonialfag
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>>139028073
>>139028326
I'm almost certain that this is the case. Holocaust revisionism may be factual, but it is certainly maladaptive for the individual, therefore it is not really true. According to his warped definition.
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>>139009133
hes a psych ot a historian, he jut took history and analyzed it from his pov, i dont see the issue. Clearly hes correct, if he did what he did then he was mentally ill because it makes no sense to use the same poison when you can use swords/axes (assuming bullets are to be saved fort the war). At the very least youd test several poisons trying to find one that will kill soldiers with the most ease.
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>>139023939
such as?
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>>139007484
>i think he has some sort of personality disorder.
Molyneux has the same sort of choleric (fiery) personality. It seems like an extraverted Asperger's, with higher verbal, less spatial, intelligence.
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>>139024319
this picture is so fake its not even funny
(obviously excluding the fucking cat in the hat autism)
>Hang on guys let me frame this photo of you executing a woman in the middle of a field for no reason so we can remember all our (((atrocities))).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgAfjyiEmg

Apollonian Germ utterly BTFO's Peterson on his hyper-individualism. Focusing on only yourself won't fix your community.
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>>139009133
Except that this is a total bullshit argument, because we DID use them as slave labor and when we started using more and more allied slaves we just didnĀ“t need any more of them as slaves.

Faggot.
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>>139030568
>this picture is so fake its not even funny
>(obviously excluding the fucking cat in the hat autism)

kek

>Hang on guys let me frame this photo of you executing a woman in the middle of a field for no reason so we can remember all our (((atrocities))).
"Hang on guys let me frame this photo of you flying in your B-24 so we can remember all our (((atrocities)))"

Was that supposed to mean anything? Your predicating your denial of the Holocaust on the fact that nobody would take pictures? Fuck you, I'd take pictures.
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>>139029774
oh look it's another argum- oh, wait
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>>139007212
nope. you are just a dumb cunt.
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>>139030568
I like the German officer's suspiciously mongoloid facial features.
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>>139030568
>replying to a leaf

That was your mistake, anon. Never, ever, reply to a leaf.
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>>139016728
>because he was more concerned with gassing jews instead of actually winning the war.

Really makes you ponder why someone would do that
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>>139030568
Just incase you didn't get the entire joke behind the picture, the picture IS an obvious fake that someone added more fake shit onto.

Congratulations on being such a smart guy.
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>>139021540
>His words have meanings they are just over your head in comprehension
>over your head in comprehension

>trying this hard to sound smart
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>>139031241
It really does because it says a lot about the mind of the person giving the orders. Hitler actually thought his armies could make a break out of Berlin and take back Soviet lands and drive back the Allies, and only gave up face days before his suicide.

That fag Himmler knew shit was over and was already trying to contact the Allies and so was pretty much everyone close to Hitler.
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>>139030756
>tfw your room is filled with niggers and mudslimes and you're the only one who cares to keep it clean
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>>139031580
I'd clarify that Hitler wasn't more concerned with killing Jews than winning the war, just that he was concerned with both at the same time. And for good reason. Any slowdown would have ruined years of work from their perspective.
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>>139010794
inb4 Armenian genocide
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>>139019172
This multipled by 1,000,000
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>>139031787
Caring about your tribe is pathological t. Peterson

Ethnocentrism will prevail.
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