Psychedelics

>>138985313
you if you are honest, and im not saying you burger cause you might be one of those "i got a country now i invented the right and wrong" cunts,have betrayed your king and your people. and now you are a toll of ones and many others you speak of.

be happy with what you stole for you. and praise a kike cunt because google, facebook, nsa and cia is watching you. and will apply everything you said to your child.\


do not forget you are superpower and represent western civilization.and chirst of course. or not. fuck chirst you are free you know the best. or not you are just misinformed. it ain't your wrong doing. right?. right.

>>138985313
because the world is full of idiots.

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>>138985313
SHUT IT DOWN

>>138985313
You don't smoke shrooms and drinking LSD sounds like a very bad idea.

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>>138987700
+1 (you)

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Nature should be burned down for containing shit like this

>>138985313
Also the only known treatment for the worst medical condition known to man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_headache

>>138985313
>Gee, I wonder why psychedelics are illegal.

Because they help you to de-hallucinate.....not very helpful to jabberwockish world of lies & money carefully groomed by the establishment.

>>138988978
True fact.

>>138985313
>Gee, I wonder why psychedelics are illegal.
I had a great "experience" one evening...It was a great time, but I had this sense of dread about my health.

3 years later I have quit smoking, drinking and am eating correctly. I have never felt better. I am not saying that the mushrooms were the cause, but they certainly opened the door of perception in my mind that evening.

Basically, I ate 5/8th because they were free wtih a few others. At one point that night I was sitting on a stool next to myself in spirit watching myself breathing across the room.

It was a good time.

>>138985313
I ate magic mushrooms a few times and only had one bad trip.

>>138989360
Never done any illicit drugs myself, not even weed. I don't want to get some nightmare disease and be refused the appropriate treatment due to stupid drug laws.

>>138985432
>Drop acid
>Go on /pol/
>see hallucinogen thread
>wow my posts will make sense here!

>>138985313
>Gee, I wonder why psychedelics are illegal
Too much fun
>here goyim take these antidepressants theyll make you feel better.

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>>138989567
Bad trips are just good trips disguised in difficulty.
Psychedelics are fucking great. Only thing to fear is fear itself.

>>138989677
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0333102410363490

Ever see the movie They Live?

Similar. LSD, at least, will make you realise you aren't worth shit, which you subconsciously always know. But it makes you okay with it, and makes you work to improve the impact that you have on those around you.

It also makes you realize that our world is filled to the brim with distractions and advertisement. People are ALWAYS trying to sell you something, market something to you, etc. ((((They)))) want to pull you away from your intimate connection with nature, and throw you into a concrete world of billboards and screens.

Just remember to anyone thinking about trying acid- you're free to do you as long as you're not bothering anyone else, head up to the nearest mountains, find a good spot by a lake with a nice view and listen to your favorite music. It will change your life for the positive

>>138989793
Why the fuck are so many ausfags acidheads? Not disparaging, but I feel like most of the people I knew in HS have done LSD at least once.

Is gen z just going to be an insane hallucinogen-libertarian generation?

Trying 'shrooms in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to that

Been trying to find someone with shrooms or lsd for a long time

>>138989793
True. I had a friend that grew them for about two years. I spent two years eating them every other week. Never had a bad trip. Once at a concert I had to stop watching the crowd because they looked like a field of grass blowing in the wind every time light them. So I sat down and it stopped bothering me.

>>138990250
The Market Garden should be your friend.

>>138990026
>Why the fuck are so many ausfags acidheads?
Because acid is great and we have a nice underground scene for it.
>Not disparaging, but I feel like most of the people I knew in HS have done LSD at least once.
It's definitely gained popularity recently.
>Is gen z just going to be an insane hallucinogen-libertarian generation?
I hope so. I'm an insane hallucinogen munching libertarian millennial so I'd love to see the youth grow up in kind.

>>138990354
>insane
You got that right mate. Ever since discovering lsd, I've realised that everyone is only a little bit sane.

>>138990266
I had some hellish trips, but I always woke up the next day like "I had no idea my mind could even do that and that's fascinating"

>>138990250
Go for mushrooms. Acid always makes me feel too speedy, like cocaine.

>>138985313
>Gee, I wonder why psychedelics are illegal.
Because people know they're dangerous. Only fucking morons fall for your acceptance strategies, Chaim.

>>138985313
I had terrible migraines every week before I tried mushrooms. It was a fun experience, but I will never use them again for fear of fucking up whatever changed in my brain chemistry and getting migraines again.

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This thread is not big Pharma approved.
Move along nothing to see here....

>>138988978
I have clusters. Thankfully I haven't had a cluster period in over a year but when I had them... i've never felt pain like that. Just makes you bang your head on a wall and groan and plead with god to please, please cut it out.
It's definitely not the worst medical condition cuz as far as I know I don't receive any permanent damage. But the pain is excruciating and it does interfere with my life because during my cluster I spend hours at home in the fetal position. Thankful I live somewhere where doses and shrooms aren't too hard to find, and as an added bonus they're my favorite drugs anyway

>>138985313

>gee it's another drug slide thread

>>138989793
I was 16 when I had my bad trip. It's really about the people you surround yourself with.

>>138990790
>dangerous
Not in a controlled environment. They do have the potential for abuse. THIS is why they're actually illegal. You would have new churches and cults popping up almost over night. Shit would get weird.

>>138991035
and where you are

>>138989407

>5/8th

Wut

>>138990790
They're actually comparatively safe to pretty much all other recreational drugs.
They've become far more dangerous as a result of their prohibition though.

>>138985313
>I wonder why psychedelics are illegal.
because they aren't stimulants

they make you stop buying shit you don't need

>>138991035
>>138991110
and who you are. finding that out can be the scariest part about them.

>>138989793
My good trips were when I was in the army. My friend and I were stationed at Ft. Hood and we went to a state park and explored nature and went swimming in the river. I will never forget those times.

>>138990250
if you live in America go to a jamband/grateful dead type of show. as long as you are not offputting and sociable someone should help you out.
>>138990545
that's the reason I love acid. that upper rush is the perfect thing to help you deal with the heebie-jeebies and uncertainty of psychs.

>>138990790
People run into trouble when they don't drink enough water.

>>138991110
I agree. I was troubled at the time and had shitty friends.

>>138991139
Easier than saying 1/2oz and an 1/8th I guess.

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>>138991309
Nor should you anon

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>>138991271
>>138991101
>>138990790
>>138989806

>yeah, man, the corporations are just scared of my long hair for what it represents, dude

>>138990250
Go to a Phish concert.

>>138991142
>They've become far more dangerous as a result of their prohibition though.

That's like saying:

>Muslims become far more dangerous as a result of their prohibition though.

>>138991521

I have a feeling that's not what he means

>>138991101
>controlled environment
Stay away from windows then. Sharp objects and other people as well. Wouldn't that be something?
>>138991142
nice meme
>>138991384
kys

my female psychologist says that all drugs are equally bad and should not be taken, especially someone with emotional problems or trauma.

>>138990068

my first time was bretty good, except at the end i was in a moving car with a creepy song on

>>138989129
This is the answer

Most people who take these drugs become fucking delusional idiots who think they know everything even though they never even fucking read about anything and have no clue what we've all known is happening in the universe for over half a century

>>138991707
>kys
I'll do it if you do it first.

>>138991588
No it's not. They're not comparable at all. One is a culture/religion. One is a marketplace.
You make safe and easily accessible drugs like LSD, psilocybin mushrooms, DMT, Peyote, etc illegal, which drives up the risk, which drives up the value and the difficulty of obtaining them which then encourages shitty Chinese chemists to pump out unnecessarily dangerous but incredibly cheap (due to not being explicitly illegal lowering the risk) research chemicals by the pound and sell them to dumb fucking wook cunts who just love chemicals in general and edgy teenagers who tell their friends they're triple dosed sunshine blotter from the 60s and put their friends in hospital from an overdose.

>>138991838

Take your lips off the gas canister for a bit, the government isn't afraid of people taking psychedelics and discovering how much they like ButtJam Rock.

>>138991377
Acid just turns me into an explorer instead of really trying to trip. The amount of "artifacts" in my pockets the next day is unbelievable. It's usually all trash.

>>138985313
Does anyone here fucking hate Alcohol now?

I started smoking weed last year at 26, and holy shit it's so much better, with no hangovers or anything. Like how the fuck is this shit illegal and the literal poison that is alcohol is available everywhere?

>>138991707
nice argument

>>138992109

>hey guys I smoke weed now
>will you hang out with me finally?
>heh ya alcohol is bad right on

>>138991139
mushrooms are often sold in eighths, so apparently he ate five of those

Psychedelics are the quickest redpill.
And when I say "redpill", I don't mean political bullshit.

>>138991707
That would be a controlled environment. Maybe make sure your drugs aren't laced with a dissociative like bath salts.

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>>138992191

Which is an incredulous amount of dried mushrooms and a middling dose of fresh mushrooms; just feel like I got tricked even replying

>>138985313
I do lsd microdosing. It's results are insane. My performance is over the top lately and I'm in the best mood I have ever been.

>>138992046
Lmao, ButtJam rock is the controlling distraction.
Opening the doors of perception leads to true freedom.

>>138992312
It is hard to believe. That's a lot of puking.

>>138992393

It's just brain candy; you come down, reintegrate into reality and you definitely stop liking Toto.

>>138990250

grow them yourself! seriously! it needs a bit of equipment and learning but all along the journey is worth it

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>>138992216
What do you mean?

>>138985313
i've taken shrooms a few times. Tripping on shrooms to stop smoking is like slamming heroin because you have a headache,

>>138992365
I've been trying microdosing with mushrooms... Having some trouble with a steady supply.
I really like the results, though.

>>138992109

>with no hangovers or anything

This is the dangerous part. You feel there's no downside so you're tempted to do it more frequently than you would drink (unless you're an alcoholic). You can't rely on your body to tell you to when you should ease off like you might be used to with alcohol

>>138990790
>dangerous
You need to eat an entire car filled with shrooms to reach the LD50
And you can't trip twice within the same week because of the way the tolerance works

>>138992046
Kek

>>138992495
simulation.jpg

>>138985313
Mushrooms in low doses are the only non-degenerate drug.

>>138992571
To be fair, physical danger is not the only type.

>>138992191
5 aint shit, unless they are all babies, the tiny ones are more potent.

>>138992571
That's a myth. I've tripped twice within 3 days. You just have to eat more.

>>138992393
>this
for example weed is great but weed culture is beyond shit.

>>138991139

I think he said he ate them with a few others (other people).

>>138992529
Never microdosed on shrooms. How is it like?

>>138992109
>drinking until you damage yourself
anon I have concern for your ability to exercise your will for your own benefit

please consider not doing any drugs, legal or otherwise, until you sort yourself out

>>138992648

What is a low dose?

>>138992469
>reintegrate into reality
Heh.
Once you've seen the reality behind the flimsy cardboard bs, you don't want to re-integrate into anything.
Unless to manipulate it, which, yes, I have seen a good deal of.

>>138991778
I plan on staying in my hotelroom

>>138985313
I can attest to this. I did shrooms and had a terrible trip and realized that I was afraid of death. I quit smoking for 7 months and really cherished things in my life. The appeal of life faded and I went back to smoking.

>>138992571
everyone whos done both all say shrooms are more intence.

>>138992762
Anything under a gram or two, but it depends on the potency of your mushrooms. Some are MUCH stronger than others.

>>138991634
He means 1/5 of 1/8. 20% of 3.5 grams

>>138992027
>>138992127
Ban research chemicals. Harsh punishment for drug pushers. There's your argument
>>138992266
As if that makes a significant difference.All drugs can make you lose it.
>>138992571
If you've built tolerance, you've already lost it.

>>138992691
Didn't I say because of the way the tolerance works?
You need to double down to get the same effects
Increasing exponentially just to get the effects of a regular sized dose

>>138985313
Those shrooms literally look like newly hatched parasytes that burrow themselves deep inside your brain and eat it from within.

>>138992821
I measured out 0.6 g once and still had an intense trip

>>138992779

You sound like a three dicks at the same time faggot, you know that?

>>138992888
kek confirms

>>138992495
I mean seeing the reality through the constructed bullshit all around us.
We are being manipulated on so many levels, and psychedlics lift that veil.

>>138989793
This

I've never had a bad trip and I've upwards of 2 milligrams of LSD.

If you're not retarded you'll be fine.

>>138985313
There's magic mushrooms growing in my garden right now, I dont know how they got there. I don't wanna harvest them cus they're cool

>>138992782
Go camping or at least to a friend's house where there are different rooms. You'll hate your room.

>>138992782
Go to a park or something, even if it's raining or snowing (better than sunny desu).

Once walked along a river, snowing when I left, then the clouds parted around midday and sun came out. glorious.

>>138985432
what?

>>138992739
Everything is a bit brighter, a bit mellower.

>>138992888
>Ban research chemicals. Harsh punishment for drug pushers. There's your argument
Yeah they did that. Chemists started randomly drawing up arbitrarily different chemicals and synthesising them until there were thousands of unique new research chemicals being made every week. They already can't enforce the prohibition of the original drugs that caused this effect in the market in the first place, and can't even get them out of prisons. Weak ass argument son.

>>138989677
Shrooms are mildly toxic, but white people have been taking them for centuries, or maybe even longer. It's safe to say that things like this definitely played a role in the development of civilization.
Just don't take so much you lose control or suffer ego death, cause that's no fun. But there is freedom to be gained by low doses of shrooms. It will open pathways that you didn't have available before and allow you to process the world in a truer way.

>>138985313
No, psychedelics aren't some evil drugs that make you crazy, and he's they can help CERTAIN people with very specific intelligences and mindsets.
No, there is not some government conspiracy to keep them from the general population as if they are some superdrug. People are just ignorant, especially lawmakers.

>>138992888
Wicked digits though faggot

>>138990545
The come-up on shrooms is one of the worst I've ever experienced. Just constant feeling of "I need to be doing something but I don't know what", plus all the nausea (which is manageable with some dramamine or xanax, I digress). But LSD is kind of a happy rush. With shrooms I can't sit in a room listening to music waiting for it to come up, I can barely even sit still during the comeup if it's a high dose

>>138991553
So enlightened, anon.

>>138989806
>LSD, at least, will make you realise you aren't worth shit
Speak for yourself, slave. No wonder you're a leftist. LSD had the total opposite effect on me.

>>138985313
psychedelics fry your brain and they are degenerate. You might want to get a lobotomy instead of shrooms.

>>138993371
Most people tend to think they are god at one point or another.

>>138993099
>there is not some government conspiracy
Unless you count making them illegal with incredibly harsh penalties.

>>138993245

Make yourself a smoothie or a milkshake and blend your fungus up with it. You'll lose just a little bit in the process but the better surface area and consistency will smooth that nausea out.

>>138993355

Checked

>>138992938
I always see the positive side of that. Trip with about 30 people that are all tripping the same dose, the same batch of mushrooms, at the same time. That's when you see how infectious one thought can be. The entire crowd rides waves of emotions. When something external affects one person it affects everyone.

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I think ill go picking this autumn and this what this guy does to me if dried and cooked up again.

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>>138989793
>Bad trips are just good trips disguised in difficulty.
THIS

Good trips makes you wonder and show you the beauty of being but bad trips are like extremely compressed psychotherapy. The shit you see and think is a great reference, a point upon you must work.

>>138993386
They fry the brains of retards and embolden those with potential to realise it in my experience. They do to be fair though, also have very unfortunate effects on people who are prone to schizophrenia and related mental illnesses.

>What's the most of any psychedelic you've done at one time /pol/?

I did ~20 hits of 100µg LSD, roughly 2 milligrams.

Gonna head to the Piscah National Forest with some friends soon, drop a couple tabs, hike a bit. A real good time.

>>138992109
Alcohol is probably on par with heroine for destructive habits.
Weed is also terrible for you if you do it any more frequently than once every 3 months or so.

>>138993560
Anyone has experience with these?

>>138993560
Stay away from amanitas. They are literal poison

>>138993610

Amanitas aren't a very fun time, if that's what you're asking. More like being poisoned than being dosed.

>>138993560
Don't do it, those are poisonous unless you really know how to prepare them.

>>138985313
it's illegal because to much money is made with pharma stuff. Same with hemp

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>>138989679
How many past lives have you visited so far?

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>>138989793

>>138993559
This sounds amazing.

>>138993565
Highly agreed. I've had some fairly difficult/uncomfortable trips in the past but the amount of introspection and clarity I found was astonishing and breathtaking. Finding your way out of those dark places is a sense of relief that can't be described with words, only personal experience.

>>138993567
to be fair they are actually good for creative things because you can connect to your inner waves, the same everyone generates but usually doesn't notice

they are pretty consuming though; they would often distract from other productive things. so it would be better if not everyone at them just because.

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>>138993781
ooh baby

>>138993781
thx
>>138993767
Not past lives per se. Mostly thankful for lsd as it prevented me from developing an alcohol problem.

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I've never done psychedelic mushrooms but I want to. Can someone recommend me how much a first timer should take? I'm a light-weight. Thanks.

Shrooms are natures Jordan Peterson they force you to sort your shit out

>>138993573
Probably like 200ug and that was ridiculously intense. I can't imagine being higher than that, it was glorious

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Welcome.

>>138992762
Half eighth or so. Retards wanna feel like real men and take like a quarter on their first trip and have a bad fucking time. Also just be sure you're in a good environment, not with any malevolent people, and away from the atrocious human constructs of the modern era(IKEA furniture, McMansion style architecture, etc). On shrooms it will become very apparent to you how abhorrent the cages we build for ourselves actually are.

>>138993876
Best is to use them now and then, with intention.

>>138993681
>>138993684
>>138993728
An Adult needs like 10 Mushrooms to get his life in danger, so I should be fine with one.
If they get dried for a month or longer the Ibotinacid which is poisonous turns into the psychidelic stuff. The rest you can avoid by cooking them in hot water and only drinking the water then which is what siberians seem to do rather casually with those. So it cant be that dangerous if I start low. Noone tried here tho?

>>138985313
Real story real quick
>Be me, work 2 jobs
>Second job at high-end convenience store in my part of the city
>Customers love me. One regular asks how i've been
>Tell him my gf keeps busting my balls about cigs
>He hands me 250ug acid crystals from Grateful dead family
>tells me, "trip, and convince yourself you don't need cigs anymore. you'll never smoke again."

Should I try /pol/? Love me some L, but never have done it for spiritual/body betterment

>>138994040

Is it the mushrooms or your autism?

>>138993573
I know a guy that ate about this much. He was a dealer and kept freaking out thinking a crowd of people were showing up to his house to buy but there was no one there.
That kind of plays into the "bad trips are due to your own faults" theme.

>>138993876
>they are pretty consuming though; they would often distract from other productive things. so it would be better if not everyone at them just because.
Totally this. Couldn't agree more man, but I've always felt that the very nature of psychedelics will absolutely guarantee that not everyone will be on them. When I first found them I tried to turn the whole world on Tim Leary style in my youthful foolishness, but you learn that not everyone wants to smoke dimethyltryptamine and literally fuck their fucking shit up, brief as it may be, and that's okay as long as cunts don't get all crazy and demand that the Government put me in a cage because I do want to do that.

You guys who take this shit are so fucking degenerate. Just like marijuana smokers though you try to pass off your high/trips as some spiritual experience. When in reality it's your brain being fucked with by chemicals. Nothing spiritual about it. It doesn't increase your art or view point. It just fucks with you.

But go head and use it. Try some delicious heroin next too. It'll make you feel amazing

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>>138994134

>should I do this?
>"no"
>that's not the answer I wanted... So should I do this?

>>138994253
Try some shrooms.
Just once.

>>138994253
Bayerbro?

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Shroom season starts in a week or 2 here in Europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyEeLC1KVcA

>>138994268
Just wanted to clarifie that I dont wanna gobble them up raw.

>>138994253
nah you're the one that's retarded and you envy us faggot. Shrooms make our false world look like the cartoon that it is while nature literally comes alive and we feel reconnected with our true nature

>>138994268
He gave you a pretty reasonable response.

>>138992888
>If you've built tolerance, you've already lost it.

you obviously have no idea what you are talking... but in my experience people like you really should stay away from drugs and everything else

>>138994418

Someone needs to kick this faggot off his Birkenstock pedestal

>>138985313
LSD is the best. Only did it twice. Shit changed my perspective on life. Made me perceive the dimensional shit too. very neat.

>>138994375
just find a reindeer and feed them as many as you find and then drink the deers piss a couple hours later.

>>138991139
>Wut
I personally consumed 5/8th oz myself. Others did the same. I had a huge bowl of dried mushrooms in various "flavors". By HUGE I mean that I had a giant ass popcorn bowl that an entire family would eat out of. There was no limit for the 5 of us. We had a good time, and there was leftovers.

>>138992478
>grow them yourself! seriously! it needs a bit of equipment
This exactly. That is the ONLY way you can ascertain what you are consuming. The only times I have enjoyed them, I have produced them. The "Getting ill/stomach issues" are 100% in the brain. I have not once gotten even close to ill. If you get sick, it is because you are discontent mentally.

Heres my trick for drying them that will make all of you want to eat them until you get full:
(Ps Cubensis)
>Fresh pick
>Clean all substrate off
>Wash in clean water
>Gently dry, as to not bruise
>When Dry, lightly coat with Olive oil
>Sprinkle with your favorite seasoning mix
>McCormick "Salad season" taste like Ranch dressing
>Dehydrate until 100% crisp. Never allow for any moisture remaining.
>Store with dessicant packs to ensure freshness.
They taste like healthy potato chips when dried. Also be careful with fresh fruits. They bruise purple very easily.

I don't cultivate anymore. Looking back, that was a long ass time ago. It is very very simple to cultivate....almost disturbingly. I have grown many mushroom edible varieties, and the cube mycelium is one of the easiest and fastest growing. After your first grow you realize that you either need go big or stay personal sized....I wanted to stay personal, and my first attempt literally first attempt overproduced substantially......I refuse to roll around with that much of that shit ever again. Ill throw it out in an instant. The shit grows like weeds. You will have too much way too fast if you don't time it right.

>>138994134
I tried amanitas, in extract form. Basically the strongest shit you can get.

It was like a datura trip. Ever taken datura? It's not hallucinations, it's delirium. Like full on brain confused and think its dying, all mental cognition reverting to primal state, everything surrounded by a haze of gray, feel like a zombie. Not positive in any way, nor "mind-expanding" - you literally feel like you took a poison and something's wrong, the entire trip. It's fucking terrible.

>>138993559
Psychedelics are first and foremost an individual experience of interacting with the universe, so I wouldn't recommend more than 5 people. Two or three is ideal so one can always assist the other when he's having bad thoughts. But you can still search in yourself without unnecessary distraction. You'll feel abused and paranoid after hours of apparent manipulation by such a large group. Ambient music for instance is a much more harmonious surrounding than people whomst you can't control.

What does /pol/ think of 1p-LSD and 4-AcO-DMT?

>>138991035
>using hallucinogens before the age of 20

>>138994501
Turn off your mind, relax, and float downstream.
It's the best psychotherapy available.

>>138985529
>because the world is full of idiots.
One + to this

>>138994634

>listening to the Beatles on shrooms

ISHYGDDT

>>138993825
My friend grew them in a RV kind of like breaking bad style. I would get a pound and have mushroom parties in college. It was very fun. Those types of experiences bond people together.

>>138993980
My trip of 2000µg was the highest I've ever been, and it probably would have been if my cousin wouldn't have freaked out after he took 700µg.

>>138994529
Delirium produces hallucinations but you are right, datura is fucked.

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any time i've been on mushrooms or acid i only smoked more. that shit affects everyone differently.

>>138985313
Honestly Mushrooms and LSD even Marijuana have medical value and I am surprised to this day we have not been able to reverse it as quick as we have.

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>>138985432
>when you pop a ton of red pills then realize later it was just a shitload of MDMA

>>138994703
>not listening to Revolver on psychedelics
Don't you want the full experience, Anon?

>>138994253
But your brain getting fucked by chemicals can turn your wheels in ways that you might get to certain conclusions due to natural stuff happening, not because the gods whisper in your ear or some shit like that.

>>138994918

The Beatles are always a shit-tier decision on psychs.

>>138993944
Anyone?

>>138995009
Oh, dude.
We may just be into different shit.
I could listen to Taiko for hours on shrooms.

>>138994586
Eh... you can get away from people if they're bringing you down. Each room of the house had a different group and a different feel. The back patio was the quite area for people that wanted to chill. You have to set up the house properly and realize you will be entertaining many people with many different tastes of how they like to trip.

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>>138994153
It's the truth anon. Most modern mass produced Chinese consumer goods are disgusting. Modern cookie cutter style architecture is disgusting. We're just so steeped in it we don't notice. I strongly feel that pic related is an insult to life itself.

>>138995009
Pretty much anything upbeat is shit-tier on psychedelics

Ambient music, ambient guitar, spacey slow shit, ethnic music (especially ragas) or psychedelic blues/stoner rock. Always patrician choices

>>138994528
>stay personal sized

very good advice! if you sell them or even gift them to a lot of people this is a serious risk, they'll (gov) get you


I've had a similar experience like you; did it many years ago and then switched to edible shrooms... psychedelics are something that 'cures' itself unlike alcohol or heroin; you just don't have the feeling or need to do it anymore

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>>138994703
>not listening to e mantra hermits sanctuary

SHROOMS: the anthem. listen under night sky

>>138995129
How do you feel about the Arts & Crafts movement, anon?

>>138989407
I did the same thing except I did it alone. I use to drink, eat unhealthy and was gaining weight. After that experience I did stop drinking, eating bad foods, and it opened my mind to research and realization just how narrow minded I was as a person to see that there is far more out there I was not aware of. In fact it may have given me direction than lead me to do nothing with my life.

>>138995210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1javZNmgiI&t=1772s

>>138995121

No, the Beatles are just probably the worst point A in psychedelic music. At least ever other meme band cultivates some sort of aesthetic uniqueness. Why not listen to something good like Oregon if you want your orientalism fix.

>>138994253
Define "fucked with"
Btw did you know that your entire brain is chemicals!??!?

>>138995009
I mean, if you mean their poppy stuff, yes.

I've never done any drugs, but want to try once I get out of the military. Just want to try mushrooms since I hear the are good with no side effects. Any advice? Also, where should I take them and what should I do during it to get the most out of it?

>>138992782
>staying in an unfamiliar room

thats fucking retarded anon go for a walk on any trail in a park

hide a spare set of keys in wheel well and make sure you have a backup battery for your phone for tunes and your map

>>138993905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi2PPHEqXsw

Great to hear. The old lesson to respect your body, and your soul will follow. The Creator is smiling at you. Hope we meet sometime!

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>>138985432
FPB- w-w-WTF?!

>>138994528
You get stomach issues because they contain mild toxins. It's purely physiological, not psychological. But pain is also an interpretation of the mind so what might be mild discomfort to you could be gut wrenching to another.

>>138995363

>their poppy stuff

It's all pop, anon, and not very good pop at that. And that's not a bad word either.

>>138994529
>Datura
Now thats an infamous plant, I dont know much about such stuff but if it was an extract then you might just have overdone it.
Would just start with using small pieces in a teabag and see what a cup does. Then scale up from that until it gets neat or shit. If you tried the extract, then did you try other plants with better results?

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>>138992919

>>138994703
>listening to anything but the sound of the wild on hallucinogens

>>138995444
>Checked
You're Russian so you're good with computers, right? Why hasn't someone made a VR app that just shows fractals? I've seen a few but they are just simply terrible.

>>138994253
You keep taking the xanax and Prozac that big pharma wants you to take, I'll stick to what I'm doing

>>138990068

Man my first time was great. I was lucky enough to be in the mountains with some friends. We took a midnight walk on shrooms, great time. Felt truly at peace.

>>138995773
Nah dawg good music and hallucinogens is literally God-tier

>>138995739

Doing psychs is no more enlightening than taking a fistful of Xanax, passing out leaning against a wall and banging your head on the corner of a table on the way to the floor.

stupid people need psychedelics to realize what intelligent people figure out on their own. People who need psychedelics to come to these realizations like to talk about them, but cant do anything about them because theyre not smart enough. So theyll tell as many people as they can about their epiphanies hoping to trick people into doing work that they feel is important for them. it sickening when a 30 asshole year old is trying to explain how he just realized how we're all connected. It's like, yup, figured that out when I was 8. And theyre like nonono you dont get it, we all effect each other. And it's like, yup you were an asshole as a child, an asshole as a teen, an asshole as an adult, and now you just figured out you have a personal effect on the people you interact with because you took drugs. These same people will also present themselves as nice and kind (because they take psychedelics) but are not.

>>138995534
>Within you without you
>I'm only sleeping
>Tomorrow never knows
>I am the Walrus

Heck, even
>Dear Prudence
>Sun King
>Julia

>>138988757
(((nature)))

>>138996060

How are any of those not pop songs?

>>138995209
>you just don't have the feeling or need to do it anymore
That is the amazing part of that evening. You feel closure for no apparent reason. I have a horrible drinking problem....I don't do "drugs" per se. I wanted shrooms one time, and no one had them, so I grew them. I never binged at all. I made a very large first batch, and a more controlled batch almost a year later. No one knew where I got them except my brother, and he is as coy as I am. Everyone wanted to talk to my "dude" but he was always out lol.

They will stay potent for years if kept in cool/dark conditions WITH a good silica pack. You need that or they will eventually sponge moisture out of the air. Every time.

Overall it was simple. I had experience with edibles already. I could do cultures on agar at the house already. The stuff is fun to work with on plates also. Very distinct.

>>138993610
Ferment them, friend. Find the power that lies dormant in your blood.

>>138994157
I didn't freak out, but I'm also not mentally ill or stupid.

And just for the record I took that mich and only saw tracers. I never ever see anything that isn't actually there.

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>>138995247
Very ignorant.

>>138993944
2grams

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>>138995973
Here come the agents

>>138995399
the only real advice I can give you is research! do it a lot; read into the topic, read trip reports (the good and the bad), read about what most likely will happen and also what could happen

if you feel unsure or bad, wait until you are sure and feeling good (this doesn't guarantee that you won't have a 'bad experience' but reduces the chances...if you are going into a bad trip, try to stay calm, remember everything will be normal in about 6-8hours again... last thing I want to say is, even I had 'bad trips' they tought me the most and helped me to deal with past experiences from my life)

there is a great forum for everything you need to know http://shroomery.org/

>>138996220
>2grams
I agree with this. 2 full ring finger sized dried ones.

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>>138996109
holy fucking KEK!

>>138996329

Never said don't do them, just saying that the only enlightenment you're feeling is your thumbnail tickling your prostate

>>138995951
Why listen to music when you can listen to God directly?

>>138996053
Not everyone gets a soul anon.

>>138996119
You, uh, seem to havecan incredibly different definition of pop than any I've ever been familiar with. But that's ok.
Are the Dead Kennedys or Pete Seeger pop to you too?

>>138996333
>read about what most likely will happen and also what could happen
Checked

However, I totally disagree. take plenty of your favorite food and beverage. Also movies/vidya/music (Highly recommend Tim and Eric's Awesome show). At times your body feels drunk. At times your brain drifts out. Sometimes your vision gets wonky, but you won't do enough to see crazy shit like that.

I really rate 2g of mushrooms like 8-10 beers...but never drive without plenty of rest...you will need it.

>>138996554

Pete Seeger and the dead kennedys absolutely are pop music. Why would you think otherwise?

what business is it of yours what people put in their own body? if you want to go rock climbing with no gear then no one is going to stop you even though you are putting yourself at huge risk. you can take up boxing or mma or another violent sport and risk scrambling your brains and permanently injure yourself and end up living in a wheelchair and no one will stop you.

you can do all sorts of retarded and dangerous stuff and dance with death in a myriad of legal ways but once someone decides to take a substance then why does that get everyone all hot and bothered? you can go to the casino and bet your car and house away even though we know gambling addiction exists.

>>138994871
Hory shet Ling Ling got ass

>>138996546
I dont think drugs are a good excuse for lacking one. The answers are out there in broad daylight for anyone to see and act upon. The truth isnt hidden behind hallucinations.

>>138996960

One of the few anons making sense ITT

>>138993944

>do an eighth.

Doesn't matter, just remember it's a drug. Remember that you took it, and remember WHEN you took it. Look up how long the high lasts and remember that when the time runs out you'll be mostly back to normal.

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>>138996218
It was a reaction to the Inustrial Revolution: an emphasis on hand crafting, beauty & usefulness.
Check it out.

>>138992109
A few times a month and no more than that. You might have addiction problems.

>>138996053
Nah... sounds like you're projecting an experience you had with one asshole in particular. Plus, there's a difference in knowing how you act affects other people and actually seeing it happen. I think that has a greater impact on people and why you hear them say, "no no no... you don't understand man. It's like... just whoa." At least they're finally experiencing something that could have a positive effect on whether or not they continue to be an asshole.

>>138996705
>what business is it of yours what people put in their own body?
This is the naive line of a 17 year old lolbertarian. No man is an island and we were put here together for a reason. Everyone should want everyone else to succeed because that's the only way forward. We all depend on each other anon. When one person suffers, we all do. Suffering is often necessary, and unpreventable but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be bothered by unnecessary suffering.
The entire strategy of human existence is based on interdependence.

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>>138985313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWx6csgGkg4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjbpgdW_vZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4o1mnpSmfs

I love listening to Sturgill Simpson when tripping

Drug use is degeneracy, and drug possession should be dealt swiftly with public executions.

You are everything that is wrong with the world.

>>138997250

You'd like Lowell George/Little Feat anon.

>>138996677
Okey dokey.
So how about, say, Mozart?
Or NWA?
How about Black Sabbath?

>>138996960
I didn't say it was. And as you've probably seen, the people enlightened by those realizations just go back to being shitty NPC tier subhumans after a few days. The Truth is only there for those with the eyes to see it. Not everyone is as blessed as you. Be grateful.

>>138997119
I will. Sounds right up my alley.

>>138994134
Those particular type of mushrooms (amanita, fly agaric) are not psychedelics.
THey are deliriants. Deliriants are not fun. Don't pick them.
Look up liberty caps they are the best ones and the most easy to find, just go to any cow field.

>>138997318
>t. the Establishment

>>138997412
yup yup yup. Im just blowing off steam on 4chan. its tiring being a beacon that these kinds of people are drawn too.

>>138997402

You have some pretty pathetic and ordinary taste, I don't really understand why you're being so obtuse or getting defensive over not understanding that pop is a very expansive label.

No (in his day maybe)
Yes (literally rebranded funk)
Yes (do you think pop isn't compatible with overdrive?)

>>138996212
He didn't see the people when he looked out the window. It was every time a car drove by he thought someone was pulling into his driveway. He would check the window, see no one there, sit back down, then forget he checked and ask why people were just sitting in his driveway. He is actually a really smart and stable guy but I think the paranoia of dealing finally caught up to him.

>>138997458
I thought you might dig it.

>>138989793
Kinda true. There is definitely a lesson to be learned.

I've done a lot of growing up since my trip to hell last years

>>138990790
dobar trol

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wish I could get a hold of some acid.

>>138997618
Ok, so "pop" means popular to you.
Works for me.
I have a different use for the word, but whatever.

>>138994253
Every you do is your chemicals reacting. You aren't enlightened for thinking that psychedelics are merely your chemicals getting fucked up in your brain.
Before they were banned they were used by psychologists and therapists to treat their patients. They were too effective and that;s why they banned them because people were turning to their psychologists guiding them through trips instead of taking anti-depressants.
Now you tell me what would be better for your mental health, taking a natural plant in a controlled setting with an expert psychologist and only do that once or maybe twice - or; continue taking anti-depressants which alter your brain chemistry far more than shrooms and have long lasting side-effects.
You're a brainlet that's swallowed propaganda.
Bluepilled as fuck

>>138997946

Buy a lemon, retard

>>138997232
explain why that can be achieved with legal recreational drug use? explain how recreational drug use, including caffeine, sugar, alcohol, tabaco, weed, and psychedelics, would interfere with true harmony? you grow some weed? I have wealth that I earned from my job and pay taxes with. how about I use some of my wealth to purchase some of your weed that you grow on land that you pay taxes on? that way I get something I want, you get something you want, wealth is circulated, and everyone is happy?

>>138997318

so you should be executed for drinking coffee or tea? contains caffeeine which is (most likely you will doubt this but look it up) a drug

you are very ignorant and think only your way is the "solution" or best way...but I have some news for you, psychedelics can do wonders if applied rightly and psychologists around the world are finally gaining grasp again onto that topic. Psychedelic treatment can do transitions in mentally ill people like nothing else discovered yet, patients where the school medicine declared them as untreatable could have progress!

Movie on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft93XOXup38&t

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>>138996109
>This.
This.
t. dea agent

>>138996342
>>138996220
This or just split an eighth with someone.

>>138994528
>he "Getting ill/stomach issues" are 100% in the brain. I have not once gotten even close to ill. If you get sick, it is because you are discontent mentally.
You're a brainlet. It's leftover chemicals in the shrooms that cause a thing called bodyload.
It can be avoided by preparing the mushrooms in lemon juice and then drying them out to get the contaminants out.

>>138998010

How did you get that from what I said? Wouldn't I have said Mozart was pop if that's what I meant? You should train your ear and learn a little diatonic theory, it'll depress the hell out of you knowing how unique most music isn't.

>>138994589
1plsd is better than normal lsd. It's far more forgiving in the mind and a lot more recreational.
4-aco-dmt is synthesized shrooms, the chemical taken out of them.
I'd rather take natural shrooms than 4aco

>>138990250
Just "bee" yourself :D

Also a positive drug story from Bill Hicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnwFmaLiKl4

>>138997318
We consume drugs all the time. l-theanine is a drug found in tea, caffeine is a drug.

I'll come clean and say I was a pretty much a full on degenerate druggie for a long while, taking just about everything under the sun for about a year and a half. But out of any drug experience I've ever had, the most important ones for me have been the psychedelics. I've taken quite a large variety of psychedelic research chemicals available on the clear net and have taken Psilocybin mushrooms and LSD many many times. I feel like if I hadn't taken one of those towards the end of my binge and with support of from my life partner I wouldn't have ever gotten my shit completely together. I have always worked hard even when I was doing all that shit, but it made me want to advance to the next step so I'm involved in learning a high earning trade at the moment. I still smoke cannabis every day but it doesn't demotivate me to do things I would normally do.

Mushrooms are the best.
Probably going to eat a couple grams tonight as the hurricane hits, here in Galveston island

>>138985313
heheheh i remember bein 14

>>138985313
Be careful anons I've seen more than one person lose their marbles because of psychedelics.

Not saying you shouldn't do them. Just don't overdo it.

>>138998732

Hopefully your house doesn't get baptized on you, stay safe.

>>138998915
Can confirm. I took to many shrooms two years ago and am now a full blown Nazi

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Since we're on drugs, how do i get off adderall? Is it bad for your brain?

It def helps with concentration at work but I have shit concentration without it....

>>138999372
The Fuhrer took amphetamine. It's not too damaging for your brain if you are taking a low steady controlled dose.
Just took b complex vitamins everyday and l-dopa to replenish your dopamine and you will be good.
Look into piracetam (a nootropic, basically NZT the drug) as an alternative

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Psychedelics are really fucked up, fuck your mind up.

t. ex psychedelics consummer

ps. don't do drugs kids

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>>138999022
>
>Hopefully your house doesn't get baptized on you, stay safe.

I'm on the East end, 17' elevation of the ground... Most of the island is from 5' to 10' and those folks are staying. Their cars will probably flood. We are protected by a 12' seawall, and the island drains pretty well here.

My wife is freaking out this is her first 'Cane she's from Dallas and only lived in Austin. She's been telling at me all day about leaving lol. I'm drinking whiskey since work got cancelled, good times.

Pic from 5 mins ago. Not even raining.

>>138999633

Ask her why she's betting on your house getting totaled instead of making sure you're stocked and prepped for the week or two after?

>>138985313
today I'm going to by 2g of mush. what should I do while tripping?

>>139000095

Watch this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mua8Pr6uRso

>>138989793
true

>>138995399
>No down sides

If you have a really bad trip prepare for some unpleasant downsides

I was fucked with anxiety and panic attacks for months after my trip to hell

These aren't toys anon. Educate yourself. Know you will delve head first into your subconscious, you may not like what you find.

Shrooms are my favorite drug. Been about 3 years since I tripped

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>>138985313
STOP POISONING YOUR MIND
>>138998940
STOP POISONING YOUR BODY
>>138998940
STOP POISONING SOCIETY

>>138985313
I took a small dose of boomers the other day, and since then I feel way better mood, less anxious and more productive. Shit is tight desu

>>138985313
I've heard people say acid is social shrooms are solitary. For peace of mind reasons the first and only time I will trip I want to be with people, preferably a sober person. I think ill do acid with a gf or friend but do shrooms with my brother, good idea? I want to try shrooms over acid because they're natural, and I want to do it as an entheogen/philosophy/spirituality experience, not as a DRUGS DUDE COOL kind of thing. Any advice for someone completely foreign to all of this? I think of the great people who say psychedelics helped them and the ordinary people who say they helped and I think there is some truth to them being a force for good.

Im sober af and still having depression and panic attacks. I do not need that shit in my life. Staying clear of drugs of any kind is ultimativne red pill.

>>138991035
Some hs friends said they had the worst trip ever watching The Wall movie. Would anyone here comment on what kind of entertainment is good or bad to watch while tripping? I plan to be outside but maybe I'd want to to listen to an album.

>>139003187
It's good in teens years,, every one coming to the Wall after 20 is lost case.

Whenever people try to convince others that psychedelics are good they're just describing shit that I think is pretty normal.
I can't tell if they're trolling or being retarded. They're just describing normal brain functions as some miraculous LSD induced state of mind.

I have a theory.
We all know that your body contains trace amounts of DMT which is produced in your body. Just like your body needs trace amounts of certain minerals, your body might need a trace amount of DMT to perform normal bodily functions.
Some people might be lacking DMT in their body, so when they take the drug what is happening is that they are supplementing their body with a chemical that is lacking in their body. After they take the DMT they start experiencing normal bodily functions like disassociation, they get less likely to get addicted to substances like alcohol, they start thinking about things from different perspectives etc.
One of the things I hear the most from people who advocated for psychedelics is ego death. I believe I experience ego death every day before I go to sleep or when I wake up in the middle of the night.

I think people pushing for psychedelics are mostly full of shit, but I support studying of psychedelics, and I want to know whether or not it's something that you need to supplement people with if they lack it.
One of the top reasons I am not fully on board with psychedelics is because it's not our guys who are using psychedelics. Not that many people on the right use psychedelics, but I can tell you for a fact that at least half of antifa members use psychedelics and then post online about how ''WOW DUDE I GOT ENLIGHTENED! WE ARE ONE RACE! THERE ARE NO BORDERS DUDE.''

>>138996053
this

>>138985313
DMT is a literal red pill.

>>138985432
I completely understand and agree .... I think

>>139003187
>watching any movie on psychedelics

Impossible. Too much is going on in your head to process or care about some images on a screen

>>138985313
>Gee, I wonder why psychedelics are illegal.
No being a trippy faggot hippy or a larp'er, but Psychedelics enable thought on a higher plane of consciousness. A dog is more aware than a snail, a human is more aware than a dog. Psychedelics enable highly advanced pattern recognition, however they suppress the ability to store the information or process it in any useful way due to the euphoric high that comes with it. Trippers are more interested in the high than the application. Imagine an accountant on a low dosage of LSD, or a programmer (Bill Gates, Steve Jobs.)
It is regulated because any performance enhancing substance gives the user a way to break out of their caste, and an "unfair" advantage over competition. As if genetics ever takes into consideration fairness.

>>139004399

>t. Brainlet

Best time to watch a movie. You probably tell people they won't be able to draw or play an instrument spaced out too.

>>138985313
We should promote the use of psychedelic mushrooms to leftists to be more in touch with their hippie predecessors and create guides for finding them that lead to amanitas specifically the death cap and destroying angel

If you want to stop smoking just go to the doctor for bupropion.

>>139004711
Leftists are already heavily into psychedelics.
They are those retards who constantly tell you about how you shouldn't pick mushrooms because you might pick a poisonous mushroom as if you're just as stupid as them and can't do your research.

>>138990026
Probably because Australia is for the most part a desert with nothing to do and a lot of cow shit

If you are bipolar you shouldn't touch mushrooms. It can make it way worse. Just a word of warning from experience.

>>139004634
>implying creating art is the same thing as watching somebody else's for an extended period of time

That's how I can tell you're really one of those kids that does 1 g of mushrooms, puts on some liek totally fuckin trippy movie maaan to watch with his 60 IQ friends and thinks he knows everything about the psychedelic experience

You fucking ingrate. It's not fucking weed that enhances everything, it's a goddamn spiritual destruction and rebirth. 7 g of mushrooms will make EVERY fucking stimuli annoying unless your brain is fucking vacant and you need to watch some shit in order to fill it, because you're a mongoloid

>>139002871
Shrooms are fun with other people it really depends on the person your with. Preferably someone you enjoy spending time with like a best friend/gf/family member. Take 1.5-2 grams for your first time if you want to get your feet wet. Don't expect to see crazy monsters or anything. It's almost like viewing the world as if you were an alien from another planet. Everything is interesting and amazing. Music is good. Very good. It can pull you out of the deepest of bad trips. Looking at paintings or just laying in the dark is great. Outside is fun but it can be a bit over stimulating. People make me anxious and the tv always looks like claymation ish so I stay away. Shrooms were something that helped me figure out what I wanted out of life and what was important. Highly recommend.

>>139002871
look into my other two posts

>>138996333
>>138998074

>>139004634
And by the way 99% of art or instrument playing is done AFTER the trip, not during it, when you're rebuilding your ego and processing everything. You stupid fucking monkey you think you can play a guitar during ego death?

>>138996333
>>139005666

digits confirm

>>139005425

No, you just have aspergers. Have you ever seen rain man?

>every stimuli is annoying
>but you can absolutely focus on "your own art"

>>139005675

I don't think you've ever experienced "ego death" if you're projecting your subjective experiences onto strangers, and convinced you're onto something no less.

>think you can play a guitar during ego death

Many have.

>>138991553
That's a spicy meme

>>138985313
I was an atheist until I started doing ketamine, then I chilled with God in many k-holes. No wonder ketamine is illegal, commies hate religion.

>>138999197
Kek

>>138994147
I'll never understand why people come on this board and just spout bullshit that they know didn't happen.

>>139006094

I doubt you know what ego death, or an heroic dosage, as Terrence McKenna named it, is

you won't be able to play guitar!

>>139006328

You sound pretty Hasidic to me, friend. Does not reflecting your understanding of ego death dent your ego?

>>139006328
Forget it, he's some teenager who thinks ego death is like that part of the trip where like you think really deep about stuff maaaan

>>138985432
what

>>139006956

I think you dissolved your ego a little too deep into your gyri

>>139006586

not at all. ego death is an out of body experience, everything dissolves... so anybody who says they can do this or that haven't reached the point or have not been granted the full experience.

it is like you would say you can play guitar during a breakthrough on dmt... not gonna happen...my friend...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnYf-VxkkRc

>>139007151

>there's an objective psychedelic experience
>so enlightened you're hanging on a gurus every word
>relying on abstract academia to prove a subjective point
>literally muh super secret club

Your egos alive and well in there, friend. :^)

>>139006094
>ego death means you have to be really nice to people

Jesus you're a fucking child. Stick to weed, don't speak about things you have no clue about, trust me, it'll be better for you in the long run. Maybe after you graduate high school you might be ready

>>139006956

well to be honest; even if he is 50 years old; it wouldn't change a thing... I think the differnce is as you explained is that he has a misunderstand of ego death and who his friends are... to be clear; we are anonymous strangers to each other at this point; not more or less

>>139007407

you made it clearly that you do not understand

>>139007480

I don't think psychs have turned you onto much if your reasoning lacks that much nuance.

>>139007564

Go send some money to Timothy Leary and Ken Keseys estates too

>>139008109

Just making it clear that you're checking all the boxes. Do you own any quartz crystals?

>>139008150

>I don't think psychs have turned you onto much if your reasoning lacks that much nuance.

talking with you is like playing chess with a pigeon... it doesn't matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway

>Go send some money to Timothy Leary and Ken Keseys estates too

why should I?

>>139008578

>why should I

Fits your pattern of responsibility liberating hero worship and submission to authority.

>>139008227

I have a lot of quartz crystals, mostly for time measuring, why do you ask?

>>139008700

how do you come to that conclusion?

>>139008732

Have you ever talked to someone endlessly about sacred geometry or monoliths?

>>139008856

Well for starters you've been tailoring your replies to my criticisms of you.

>>139008871

>Have you ever talked to someone endlessly about sacred geometry or monoliths?

how should I engage this conversation if I would talk to someone endlessly? How should I do anything endlessly as human?

> Well for starters you've been tailoring your replies to my criticisms of you.

how does that connect to liberating hero worship and submission to authority?

>>139009181

Mostly just the submission to authority part, I'd point to you deferring to McKenna as evidence of your unhealthy hero worship.