Is there a reason so many of you want authoritarian regimes?

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>>138944160
Because democracy is bound to be subverted, and people already pledge themselves to higher authorities via religion. The bible preaches kingdom whilst the Freemasons preach freedom and democracy. A dictatorship or monarchy is meant to keep the country and people together, whilst a democracy subjects itself to mob rule and violence. Ironically, you're safer under an authoritarian regime than a democracy. We favor that the strongest and most able rule instead of the most popular. Not all people will recognize this. If they did we would've gotten rid of central banks decades ago. Stability versus self interest, essentially.

>>138944160
No, it's just to be edgy. The Nazis and other fascist govts believed in Democratic Party causes: high taxes, lots of welfare, and govt owned corporations. It's not reported because it's embarressing to progressives the truth of their political heritage.

Lifespans of the 3 major political regimes.

Communism:70 years

Fascism: 20-40 years

Democratic Republic: 250 years

We are nearing the end of our lifespan, one of the other two may replace it. But they won't be around for very long, they never are.

>>138945903
Edgy larping does seem more likely. Democracy isn't freedom though.

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>>138944160
Because Jews are subverting democracy and bringing in hordes of muds to turn us into a permanent blue state.

Look at what happened to Russia's democracy before Putin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Cl8lSv9Is

If we could keep America white, and have an actual transfer of political power I'd be down.

I still want the bill of rights to be applicable to all white Americans.

>>138945563

>We favor that the strongest and most able rule instead of the most popular.

you think that's guaranteed in a monarchy? lol

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LIBERTY. Learn it muther fuckers.

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>>138946126
Monarchy: ~10,000 years

>>138944160

Everyone trusts themselves with freedom. It's the other people that they're not so keen on having freedom.

>>138944160
I honestly think most of us are just racist liberals.

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>>138944160
a) you don't actually have freedom in democracy, only a veneer of it.
b) i trust myself, but i don't trust other people.

>>138944160
I do. It's other people I don't trust. We already have limited freedom and people already prove they still can't be trusted with it.

>>138945903
Yeah I agree with that too though. Tax the rich, help the poor, and the State controls all economics.
Seemed to work well for Hitler until he was poised to replace (((America))) as the top GDP in the world. Thank God that war started and we got to that awful awful man who killed the 6 gorillion.

>>138946903
I'd be down for a libertarian monarchy. I see how it's better than democracy in a lot of ways, but at the same time it's a roll of the dice with getting a good leader.

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>>138946903

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Why do you faggots assume democracy is the opposite of authoritarianism? Ever heard of a REPUBLIC? We are a Republic first, not simply a democracy! A democracy should be restrained by a constitution.

To avoid authoritarianism simply codify an ethnic identity for the nation and an ethnic standard for all immigrants!

But you fucktard authoritarians with your misunderstanding of liberty! All you idiots know is Hitler and WW2 and Jews because that is the neo-Marxist propaganda you were raised on!

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>>138944160
I'm a fascist because I believe in a society united around a common good, building up the self and the society with strong ideals and identity, the deeply nationalized corporate state and a national renaissance of morality and order. I'm in favor of greater personal liberties for the individual than they at present possess. For instance, Habius Corpus and free speech should be absolute and counter-terrorism legislation should be abolished following the removal of Islam from Britain.

>>138946995
this is what poor people say.

>>138944160
Democracy-Authoritarianism is a lie.
A ritual, in which the citizens throw papers in boxes doesn't make a society any more or less democratic.
Democracy is a simple property: when the government of a country's policies and results are approved by the general population. And America, despite regularly throwing papers into boxes, is heavily oligarchic.

>>138947260
Liberal democracy isn't democracy at-all, it's a financial oligarchy of special interests that tricks the individual into believing they have a choice. What good is a vote if people never get the policies for which they voted on account of obstruction and lobbying?

>>138946957
this is true for me.
>tfw Dixiecrat
sometimes a luberal redneck

>>138947570
this is also what poor people say

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>>138947389

How about making a country white by constitutional decree and then allowing the white people to live freely? You don't trust white people to want a moral life? To want church and charity? To want to form associations like the thousands in America that once served as both religious, philosophical, recreational and charitable... before the federal programs killed nearly all of them?

But I guess you will figure out what should and should not be allowed according to the dictates of your fascist conscience. Right.

Fuck off.

"Freedom" is a spook. You are not free. You will always be at the behest of another force. Whether its a government, corporation, or the mob rule, all of them impose their will upon you, and you will conform, or be eradicated.

>>138946957
correct

>>138944160
I find freedom in order.

>>138944160
>freedom to be replaced by low IQ brown savages
>freedom to suck dick in public
>freedom to have deranged leftist commies teach your children about anal sex in kindergarten
>freedom to smoke weed and be a loser
No thanks

Most of /pol/ are virgins so they need the state to make women fuck them.

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>>138947485
poor people are naturally nationalistic. take the peasant pill.

>>138946841
>Be America
>Be owned and run by Jews

>>138947993
Fellow Leafbro gets it.

>>138944160
Human nature is to build larger groups and inevitabely have leading figures. I would rather have a leader with my interest in mind than some corporate whore bought by Israel.

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>>138948047
when has any state ever done that?

>>138944160

given human psychology, and enough time, fascism is the default mode of government

>>138944160
I don't trust anyone with freedom. Our freedom given to us as American citizens allows us to be grotesquely fat, tv/video game hooked zombies to Jews.

>>138947699
Nod an arbument :DD :D

>>138947732
Nothing that I said is contrary to freedom. And no, I don't trust the masses to live a moral life if left to their own devices because I've seen plenty of white trash in my life, as well as the imposition of secularism and anti-theism on the popular culture by celebrity hacks, marxist reporters and academics. People are ashamed, or even afraid of being identified as Christian in this present political climate.

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>>138944160

>>138948270
1. Make it so women can't work or vote
2. Women now have to latch on to betas in order to survive
3. ???
4. Pussy

>>138948270
Islamic State :^)

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>>138945563
fpbp

>>138944160
It's not me I don't trust with freedom

>>138948471
>men having a greater stake in society
>women having and raising children
oh no, what a nightmare. literally fascism.

>>138948471
This wouldn't be possible in a liberal democracy, or even a fascist state because of the Marxist subversion of morality. Only by reaffirming our Christian identity and morality, as well as cracking down on Marxist academics and celebrity hacks can we return to tradition.

>>138944160
I trust nobody but myself with freedom in all honesty

>>138948500
>heavily armed mob of sweaty rapists
>an actual state
um, sweetie, no xx

>>138944160
democracy is a modern form of slavery, especially with open borders. Do you want the filth to decide your future? Free enterprise is a different conversation altogether.

This is why the gods of our time chose to create a constitutional republic here in the United States while having a progressive view on the lesser races (they are scum and should be denied citizenship). The jews brought black slaves to America and the rich plantation owners (CEOs of their time) sold out the future generations for a quick profit.

>>138944160
i'm tired of all the behind the scenes bullshit that goes on with our current politicians. If i'm getting fucked in the ass, I just want to be able to look at the person doing it.

>>138944160
The world works in cycles. We'll get authority no matter whether we want it or not.
I am a fascist, I want there to be a society created on the basis of revolutionary preparedness in which we can put virtuous people in charge in times of authority and keep ourselves from falling apart in times of liberty.
Get it? Got it? Good.

>>138948877
>eye contact
bit gay, mate.

>>138948990
it was the ass fucking that tipped you off?

>>138944160
I trust myself, I don't trust others.

>>138948733
>men having a greater stake in society
The most qualified should have a greater stake in society.

>women having and raising children
They should do it by their own volition, not at the threat of starving to death even if they're capable and willing to work.

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>>138948500
kek dank hans

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>>138948985
>I'm a fascist
I doubt you even know what fascism is, but nu-/pol is about being edgy so I get it.

>>138944160

because they think that nothing in their lifestyle would ever be made illegal, just things that other people do that they don't like.

>>138944160
I don't trust jews with my freedom

>>138944160
You only get freedom after authority smacks down degeneracy.

>>138946903

not 10,000 but roughly 1,000 maybe, and that's if they don't get conquered along the way.

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>>138944160
The West has a nuclear problem that requires nuclear solution
We tried with democracy, we played by the rules, we got Trump elected and then what? Even with gop majority Trump gets blocked and backstabbed, democracy is set up in a way that no matter who's in office changes are minimal and bureaucratic, the boat keeps sailing in the same way
Excess of freedom causes excess of tolerance that made the America and by extend the West incredibly vulnerable to subversion, by giving rights and freedom to all ideologies what happens is you allow poison like communism and socialism to rise, that's what happened to us, our enemies realized we couldn't be destroyed by force, so instead by using a Troy horse technique they used our extreme freedom to further ourselves from nationalism towards globalism
A fascist goverment could solve most of our problems because it's incredibly nationalistic, that means closed borders, racial and cultural pride, antifa would never exist, nor would blm, since freedom is only for white nationalists, cultural Marxist professors and media would be destroyed completely effectively ending subversion
I understand that lack of freedom is not easy, but if sacrificing my freedom means my race, my people, my language, my culture and my customs gets to survive for be it because those things are bigger than me, they are of utmost importance and needs to be preserved at all costs even if it means I'll have to sacrifice.

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Im not racist, but...
Im a racist because...

>>138944160
>Do you not trust yourself with freedom?
I don't trust others with freedom. Look at what the left did to the west when they were granted freedom. They turned it into a degenerate, totalitarian nightmare.
If the end result of freedom is a totalitarian society, then I want a totalitarian society that supports my side, rather than my enemies.

>>138944160

>implying your freedom isn't merely violence with window dressing

Read your Schmitt faggot

>>138948304

Not really. Fascism and Authoritarian Socialism what they tried to pass off as "communism" is attempting to take human beings, a species that values individuality and family units, into a eusocial ant colony. It's not natural for us at all.

>>138949231
>I doubt you know what fascism is
Same to you faggot, nothing about what I said was even edgy.

>>138949643
you still didn't explain fascism or why it is a superior ideology. I'm listening.

>>138949837
Now you've gone and changed the subject. Am I talking to one of le epic Reddit "infiltrators" I've been hearing about?

I swear I leave for a week and when I come back a new group of idiots are trying to 'epic raidz' this fucking board

>>138949152
>The most qualified should have a greater stake in society.
yes. in other words, the builders, innovators, and defenders of nations. in other words, men.

>women will literally starve if fewer of them work
disingenuous crap, based on the hystrionics of 19th century socialists. women began to enter the workplace en masse after the 1960s in large part because of a cultural shift (second wave feminism) and the resulting change in expectations, rather than financial desperation.

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>>138944160
why do ancaps and lolbergs think they can just abolish authoritarianism and collectivism? how will you ever do that? how do you think communism is so historically successful in taking over countries despite being such a dogshit self-defeating ideology? collective issues and collective identity are core ideas of it and they allow commies to politically organize far better than any ancap or other individualist ideology ever has. I mean you're seeing the libertarian US go underwater in real time for christ's sakes. whites today are so far up their own asses they think they can just be "above" identity politics and the use of force. look at history. all it is is one long timeline of groups using violence and political power to do what they want. don't be afraid to do what you want.

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>>138949837
Anyway most basic rundown I have on me because I need to hit the hay is Slavros' shitty excuse for a quick rundown.
Autistic short story, outlines basics and whatnot
https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/a-squire_s-trial.pdf

I'm sure some fag will stop in and bitch about IM but I don't give a shit it works. 50 pages. Read nigger read.

>>138946841
Americans dont have liberty you fucking retard.

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>>138949356
Monarch has been the dominant system of political organization since the advent of agriculture.

>>138947732
Fucking cuck look around you at your fellow whites. The masses are extremely malleable and always require a leader/shepard to organise society. You may think of yourself as some ebin individual but you are really not. You are part of a collective. Always have always will.

>>138949897
>subject is fascism
>I politely ask "what about your facism"
>muh reddit infiltrator

I'm still waiting, friend

>>138949837
>>138950011
On top of that there's Next Leap which is also a short read
http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Contemporary/IronmarchOriginals/IronMarch%20-%20Next%20Leap.pdf

>>138947732
Don't you understand that we have a sizeable amount of white traitors? Most of antifa is white, whites are being subverted because excess freedom of speech allows the infiltration of subvertir agents on our universities and media, too much freedom causes too much tolerance and that allows an environment that actively spawns anti white ideologies.

>>138950289
Yanks can't be reasoned with, their country is less than 56% white, they've been subverted by Marxist-Leninist traitors that are destroying all sense of identity, unity and tradition, and they still want business as usual.

>>138944160
I trust me just fine, I don't trust all the shitskins and joos so someone with authority and agrees with my point of view would be ideal considering the circumstances. Germany had the same oligarch paid fake democracy and depravity pushed by their media when Hitler formed his movement. He didn't have niggers and Mexicans and Indians to deal with, that is where joos upped their game.

>>138950011
>https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/a-squire_s-trial.pdf
>swastika = fascism
Didn't even need to go to the second slide. Germany was not fascist, it was National Socialist. Italian Fascism was all about the control of the economy in the hands of the few (corporatism) that's why the Italians were apathetic to the war effort, it didn't really benefit them.

>>138947732
We had that, and then it was subverted from within by an enemy who used those ideals against us.
Good job you cunt. Go take your hormones and cut your cock and balls off, it's all the rage now. FREEDUMB XDXDXD

>>138950969
National Socialism is based off the fascist worldview. Fascism isn't a system or ideal, national socialism is. Read the rest or be an idiot and have noone else to blame.

Also corporatism = nationalized guilds/unions
I understand where the confusion came from but:
It's called third position for a reason, fuck capitalcuckism.

>>138950969
Also Italy was a half assed country altogether, I would hardly consider them remotely fascist in practice.

>>138950168

We're talking about the lifespan of typical individual governments, and in those cases, monarchies rise and fall 500-1000 years.

Even Egypt, each kingdom of Egypt lasted maybe a thousand years and then went into a state of decay as the old dynasties died out and a new one took power resulting in another "kingdom" It was not one continuous monarchy for several thousand years. It was several disconnected monarchies with dark ages between them.

Fascist states last for 20 or so years, evidenced by Fascist Italy, Spain, and Nazi Germany. Authoritarian Socialist Regimes last roughly 70 years, by the Soviet Union's example, shorter for some, and some countries are coming up on that 70 year mark like North Korea and Cuba. North Korea's leadership's power is threatened, that's why all the saber rattling. Cuba's potentially threatened to be exposed to capitalism if Trump won't reverse the warming of relationships between US and Cuba that took place towards the end of the Obama administration... but he probably will, in fact didn't he already undo some of the diplomatic advances? Anyway, that's just going to prolong Cuba's socialist regime. it'd die with too much exposure to capitalism, just like the Soviet system died when Glasnost and Perestroika happened, just like China is forcing itself to reorganize its economy after exposure to Hong Kong's capitalism

True Democracies last roughly 200 years at most, though most of them only last a generation or so, too disorganized. Athens lasted about 200 years though, and I think that's the high water mark.

Republics can last anywhere from under 100 years to 500 years. The Roman Republic lasted almost 500. We're going on 250 years ourselves. Theocracies can last for hundreds of years and I think are similar to monarchies.

>>138944160
Hitler said it doesn't matter if your government is authoritarian or democratic because you will be gutted from the inside by (((the bankers))) and that the "great democratic nations" were only "great" as long as they submitted to allowing themselves to be destroyed financially and that they weren't actually democracies but were ruled over by a few men who own all the factories and all the shares.

>>138950551
I really don't understand this country's obsession with extreme individualism. This is why America will die, because Whites would rather go it alone than unite as a group. Fucking brainwashed cattle who are afraid of even the slightest hint of authority.

>>138946903
I pledge my allegiance to King Barron William Trump the First, slayer of the cucked, defender of all that is RIGHTeous, and protector of this great na- realm. Death to those who oppose Lord Barron!

>>138944160
Democracy is just rule by the people who control mass media and the defines of culture. I'd rather have a leader who can actually be held accountable rather than kike puppets going through a revolving door

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>>138944160
The time is right for an authoritarian government, but in the future we may need a republic again. It's a cycle that has been going on since the dawn of time. Things are changing, the only certainly right now is that degeneracy is at critical levels and there's too many shitskins and women voting for representative government to work. The real problem we have is that modern representative governments are in steep decline due to entropy, but there's no nobility left to take over the levers of power. NatSoc is needed for modern industrialized states, monarchies are too fragile to deal with modern Jewry and the radical left, and the nobility has been wiped out. We can't turn back to traditional monarchy even if we wanted to, especially in the US.

Right now the left and the Jews are just stepping into the power vacuum of our collapsing republics. Our governments are dying and will be replaced by whoever can fill the void, which will ultimately be a dictator. Our job is to make sure we get a dictatorship that advances white interests.

>>138944160
When "freedom" has nearly doomed my people to become minorities in their own country I think it is something that cannot be left to run amok forever

We need some hard line authoritarianism for a while to clean the slate and repair the damage

This will create a comfortable, safe, and happy society once again

That comfort will eventually lead to hedonism, again, and the cycle will repeat


That is my theory, anyway

>>138946903
It's actually at an upper maximum of 300 or 400 years. If religion is involved or takeover by nobility to install a noble as monarch then it ups it to about 600 years at maximum of a dynasty lasting

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>>138944160
Fascism is appealing because it solves the cultural problem that libertarianism can't even comprehend.
But Fascism is like trying to carve marble with a sledge hammer.
Christianity is the final solution. No doubts, I'm going all in.

>>138951538
Technically the true fash regimes didnt fall due to decay but outside conquest. In the case of the Italy and Germany regimes they were ganged up on my the materislist ideologies of capitalist and communism. They were very stable during peacetime

>>138946126
We actually wouldn't have a figure for fascism since all attempts were shot dead or drifted away after the others were shot dead.

Fascism though is likely to last only about 100 years, as it relies on war to sustain itself and if it doesn't die or conquer everything by 100 years then the tension of war with break them and the people will rebel. Same with Communism but instea of war it's equality

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>>138952191
yup. a fundamental change in culture is the only long-term solution. fascism only treats some of the symptoms rather than the root causes.

>>138945903

Exactly, everyone's playing this wierd "guilt by association thing" where the other party is the only one capable of the guilt, not the accuser. So the liberals are trying so hard to paint "NOT THEM" as the "NAZIS" since "NAZI=BAD" and now they've got people just role playing as Nazi's because they've had enough of their shit and started to think being a Nazi didn't seem so bad.

And I think everyone is greatly, greatly confused.

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>>138952352
The only way to get those changes IS through fascism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_LHwKxcOIM

>>138945563

Yeah but the problem is the main figure head doesn't always have the people's best interest in mind and rules from personal, subjective stances. That's why you have a Republic where the leader is always cycled out so they have to do their job, protecting the individual citizens rights, property and persons, or be ousted from the position.

It's weird, because you make a good argument for a strong authoritarian leader, but that doesn't mean it has to be the same leader all the time and that's how I believe you can get the best of both worlds.

>>138951801
Individualism to its extreme is a cancer, your actions will affect your family, neighbors, fellow countrymen. It was meant to be that you have the freedom to do what you want as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others. Economic individualism is basically free enterprise where you can easily enter a market and work as a sole proprietor.

What we are experiencing is the idea of individualism being exploited by the Eskimos to divide us to the point where we are competing with our friends, families, neighbors, etc for shekels without any common goals. We all lose in this scenario.

>>138952692
That's why i believe you need a meritocratic 2 tier citizenry. Where the leader of the nation is elected from the second tier. Getting into the second tier is not just due to material wealth but civic value. For example Elon musk getting us to Mars would earn him position in the second tier. Right now the west is effectively an oligarchy not ruled by civic virtue but materialistic. The oligarchic rulers act in their materialistic benefit destroying culture, values, identity alike. Takes some ideologue like Elon to actually move as past this space decay we have had since the end of the cold war when America was arguably more ideologist than materialistically driven.

>>138952950
Of course this styhle of government requires the biggest redpill of all. Rejection of enlightenment bluepill of equality. That's is not easy to sell in our liberal world.

>>138952352
Fascism is intensive therapy for late-stage terminal cancer. Ever since 1848, the reactionary fascist states have been the only governments that have shown the ability to truly reverse the ceaseless progressive advancement. Conservatives have only managed to stall, and not very effectively either.

>>138950110
>aussies have freedom

>>138953241
>american reading comprehension

>>138952219

The problem with Facism is that it tends to lead to war in its own practice. You reorganize people into an ant colony and then they feel the need to expand because they see how well this machine is working so they start looking to conquer.

>>138953091
The problem with the two-tier model is that the oligarchs aren't really fit to rule right now either. Society has degenerated on every level, ESPECIALLY the higher classes. They simply can't handle the responsibility of additional power. Our only hope is for a mighty ruler to rise up and purge the filth out of every caste.

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>>138951538
You've got a pretty blue-pilled perspective on things. In the end, all of these "systems" differ only in a two basic characteristics:

1. What is the government's claim to legitimacy.

2. How broadly power is distributed among the elite class.

Communism and democracy are extremely pernicious systems in that both base their legitimacy on the completely false premise of human biological equality, which just results in an a self-interested and manipulative high-IQ genetic aristocracy claiming to hold power in the name of the masses. Fascism and monarchy are at least grounded in the authority of naked power exercised for the common good.

>>138953808
That's ttypically what happens during a revolution. The question is what happens after the revoultion. Revolution is the EASY part. You kill or assimilate the opposing ideology. Organising a radically different society after that is the hard part. Honestly you have to admire our effective Germany transitioned into the fash regime considering how new of a society is was to previous ones.

>>138947160
True
Neo-reactionary libertarian capitalist-kings ruling their microstates and competing with one another for workers and people from all over the 'nation'
It's just when you KNOW what's good for you, there's no such thing as 'waiting for elections', the common peasant today doesn't know his hand from his ass, no wonder we got pigeonholed into the hands of the elites for this long

>>138953835

all governments derive their power from the people they rule. That's the red pill that arose in the enlightenment. Prior to that, people thought GOD gave Kings the right to rule, that was the blue pill, people willing to follow whatever someone said because they claimed God gave them the right, and people fell for it. Really they just had a lot of resources and were charismatic enough that people believed their bullshit, and their descendents inherited enough of that animal magnetism to keep it going for generations. But eventually a weaker monarch was born, or there wasn't a firstborn son eligible and you had a succession war, or the monarch was overthrown The Imperial Roman system was meant to improve on that, because Rome had already floundered as a Kingdom, that's why the Roman Republic was formed. Inheritance can be a weak claim for power. So instead the Emperor CHOSE a successor, based on the merits of that person and they weren't always a direct descendent. Augustus himself was a nephew not a son of Julius Caesar. If they were wise and chose a good successor, the Empire flourished, if they chose a poor successor, decadence took over. However the fundamental flaw of empires is that they become so big they're hard to govern. The Roman Empire had about 200 good years and then it slowly fell apart over 300 years. It got too big and had to be divided to manage.

If you want a single person governing a nation, that nation should be small and self sufficient Britain was a small Island nation for most of its history, that's why it's been a "successful" monarchy It tried to go empire, rose to glory, and then fell apart because it became too difficult to manage.

But ultimately that power just comes from people believing them. Republics are the same way they're just a little bit more honest about where the power comes from, common people believing that some elite asshole will do good things for them if he's given the chance to govern.

>>138944160
Sense of entitlement, which can only be delivered if one of their own takes control and redistributes to wealth. Basically Communists in brown shirts that serve only one in-group.

>>138952692
Legionnarism.
The Monarch is trained and filled with the ideas of faith and discipline to rule the nation, and the rest of the population likewise with the nest system.
The Elite and the common people become one will.

>>138956440
Power ultimately comes from force. Representative rule still relies on force to assert its authority, but republics and democracies inevitably collapse once the people realize they can use the vote to loot the treasury and enable degeneracy.

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>>138956440
>all governments derive their power from the people they rule.
Governments derive their power from the capacity to efficiently kill challengers to their authority. The consent of the governed is good to have, but not a strict necessity.

>Prior to that, people thought GOD gave Kings the right to rule, that was the blue pill
God did give kings the right to rule, in that the aristocracy represented the distillation of the best genetic qualities of a given population, and the royal line represented the best genetic lineages within the aristocracy. Kings didn't trick their way into power, they were just the biggest, strongest and smartest people in the country, in possession of the highest quality genes distilled through centuries of careful selective breeding within the aristocracy.

The true reason that monarchies began to fade, is that guns negated the genetic advantages of small warrior aristocracies.

>If you want a single person governing a nation, that nation should be small and self sufficient
One single person never truly rules a nation. Power is always distributed within among a complex network of aristocratic elites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

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>>138957856

Without the consent of the people, eventually they will overthrow a tyrant.

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>>138959167
"People" don't do a damn thing. Insufficiently ruthless rulers get outmaneuvered in the battle for power by other more ruthless high IQ elites.

>>138959167
That is your portal into another blue pill: Manufactured consent. Today that is done primarily in the form of the two-party system. Just enough difference to seem like whoever or whatever party you put into power will change something when infact they both ultimately carry the will of the oligarchy. Not the masses.

>>138959481
Modern elections are nothing more that socially engineered consent.

>>138946126
It'll probably split into:

"Democratic Socialism"

And a

Constitutional Republic with heavier restrictions on government than before.

The democratic socialist state will do alright for about 10 years and then it'll start running into very serious problems. The Republic will thrive.

>>138944160
I dont trust Jews and the left with freedom
You see what we got, 8 year old children who want to cut of their dick and get fucked by grown men, millions of refugees and so on

>>138951930
>King Barron
>Refer to him as lord

You mean his majesty Barron, anon

>>138946903
The monarchies survive long, but those who work in them do not. Remember that you'd be a peasant unless you already have 100% "royal" blood, and that any monarchs that come about in this day and age would be members of that one chosen tribe.
No kings. No gods.

>>138957407
>Legionnarism
Is this some Romanian thing?

>>138959481

The point is that people consent to it and that's what gives them their power, not God, and not force alone If people reject their leadership they can take their leadership's power, usually fatally. Occasionally if it's one elite group taking power from another, it can be done somewhat more peacably, like the gradual diminishing of the British Monarchy's power, being passed to Parliament. The Blue Pill is accepting leadership's power over you with the assumption that they're "better" than you because of birth, or "God". The Red Pill is realizing that the ruled DO have power and that is where the ruling classes power comes from, because we allow them to rule, and that in a massive enough group, you can take power back. People WILL consent to being ruled by SOMEONE ultimately and it will almost always be an elite who has the resources and charisma to convince people to follow them. But people don't suffer tyrants forever. The best part about taking down tyrants, is that they ofen have very powerful foreign enemies that want to see them taken down a notch, and will gladly aid the people in a revolt. The French did it in the American revolution and the Americans helped the Libyans overthrow Ghadaffi.

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The masses this, common good that. All collectivists should die.

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>>138959167
>Consent of the people
Think about who populates the Democratic party. Most of them know they have no choice due to directly benefiting from some form of democratic policy. Policies like welfare, food stamps, education, housing, medical, and birth control, for starters. They are not willing to part with entitlements, they believe on a fundamental level that they deserve these government handouts just for being alive. Vote for a party that would take these things away? They won't, and they can't.

Most disturbingly, they, simultaneously believe that they are making the right choice by voting for the party that legislates these handouts, that the vote for is the moral decision to make. That voting for the party of all of those government handouts (that THEY dearly depend on) is also the moral choice, because without all those handouts other people who depend on them may also die.

These poor people who vote Democrat every time don't have any party choices, they are the Democrat's modern day slaves and are content with it as well. It "benefits" them.

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>>138960341
Talk to us again when your ideology has any presence in the real world whatsoever, parasite.

>>138960341
So you're willing to kill 99,9% of non-whites?

>>138960341
There are two collectivists in the chamber. How did an individualist like yourself manage to overpower two other people and throw them in?

Hint: Doesn't happen in real life because individualists tend to be really bad at teamwork, and teamwork beats lone men every time.

>>138960341
Are you going to kill them alone?

>>138955394
You just described neocameralism which even with the flaws it has, is much better than any retarded totalitarian ideology suggested by people here.

>>138960008
It originated from Romania but can be applied elsewhere.

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>>138961083
pure rhetoric

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>>138945563
>Ironically, you're safer under an authoritarian regime than a democracy.

This is blatant doublethink.

>Who runs a democracy?
>The people, therefore the democracy can be corrupt, and is unsafe.
>Who runs an authoritarian regime?
>The people, but these are the elite so nothing will ever, ever go wrong.

This is the same shit retarded commie faggots delude themselves into thinking. That their system is incorruptible.

>>138945903
Fascism looks very similar to communism on the face of it, but it is almost opposite in reality. Communism doesnt give anyone a chance at becomming wealthy because it forcibly takes all your money off you and gives you the same as the man cleaning the shithouse. Fascism is hypercapitalist so it gives you every break you need to succeed through government funding, unsecured loans etc. It then taxes you more depending on income but its capped similar to how tax systems in the west work now. However, fascism deplores any and all evasion of taxes. Corporations would be required to have constant oversight by gvt. Hence, a lot of big corps see it as a threat because any sniff of fraud could see the entire board imprisoned and the corporation put into state control. Saying that, if you want to run your company fairly and treat workers well and pay your fair share in tax there isn't a problem.

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>>138953729
you stupid fucking faggot this is the 21st century, we could colonize space

>>138961516

You start thinking you can take on the entire world, the entire world fights back and destroys you and your fledging form of government, it's pretty simple.

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>>138961599
We no longer have to take on the entire world. If we achieved the same technological growth that previous fascist governments have achieved we could conquer space. How dense are you?

All the materials and lebensraum we'd ever need are sitting right there for the taking.

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>>138944160

Authoritarianism is the natural condition of the Indo-European man.

The reason the Indo-European people were so successful is because they were regimented, disciplined and hierarchical. They did what they were told. And they conquered most of Eurasia.

I want our natural way of life to be restored, the way of duty, honor and self sacrifice for the tribe/nation. Not this sickness that you call 'freedom' that I call anarchy. It is uncharacteristic of the European mind. True freedom is the freedom of a People to decide their own destiny on the world stage not the freedom to indulge in whatever sexual perversion you desire or the freedom to live in squalor and indolence playing video games. That isn't freedom it is slavery to the self indulgent demon in man. I might also add there is a difference between authoritarianism and collectivism, I still want people to be individuals and have the freedom to express themselves as in accord with traditional European individualism so long as it doesn't harm the cohesion of society and its morals and traditions.

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>>138960341
wtf I love hyper individualism, America is great, international corporations policing morality and having more power than the constitution is great. White people being intentionally replaced by the government sworn to protect them is fantastic. We are headed for utopian levels of FREEDOM.

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>>138960587
As long as he has his rifle and his property, surely he's safe from the barbarian hordes at the gate.

The slackjawed masses voting themselves control over my life isn't freedom anyway. As a useful person, in a monarchy or fascist state or actual free system, I'll be fine. But when cat ladies get to decide if I can be successful, it's over.

>>138947160
Not with CRISPR

It's the future bitches. God Kings when?

>>138961429
Actually you simply don't understand that fascist leaders could only be put in place if they adhere the 4 points. Especially in Legionnarism,
which believes in a whole spiritual uplifting of the nation.

>>138944160
id only want one if i ruled it. its everyone else i dont trust

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>>138944160
I don't trust the Jews

>>138950524
McCarthy must be spinning in his grave

>>138963351
McCarthy did nothing wrong

>>138944160
Low IQ individuals will not survive in a free society. It's that simple.

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>>138964412
>he thinks an individual's high IQ will protect him from shaka's horde of spearchuckers

>>138964553
The McPolice(tm) can handle those rowdy niggers-- I'd bet good money on it.

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>>138964676
They're the ones that armed them.
McPolice(tm) was contracted by an external party to make your property available for purchase. Bad luck

>>138964412
High IQ =/= good morals

>>138965844
That's why they want freedom so much
They want to be free to act on their bad morals