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>People in the America not only feel the need to own aussalt

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>People in the America not only feel the need to own aussalt rifles but they actually have convinced themselves that the right to is a human right akin to food and water
Unbelievable.
This widespread compensation is a cancer that kills 32,000 a year. It's no wonder that you have more mass shootings than all other developed nations combined.
I have not seen a single pro gun argument that hasn't resorted to using the constitution fallacy. Just because some out of touch slave owners thought it was okay to own MUSKETS 300 years ago doesn't mean they would think it was ok to own semi automatic weapons TODAY.
Discuss.
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>>138889705
>People in the America
says the faggot from the EU
nice copy pasta btw
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>>138890202
>He justifies the killing of his fellow countrymen
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>>138890672
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>>138889705
SAY IT WITH ME, BOYS

BAN ASSAULT CARS
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>>138889705
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>>138889705
Guns? Shouldn't you be dealing with how terrifying assault trucks are first?
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The fact that you're so bothered by the fact that I have guns despite never using them is concern enough for me to start hoarding.
Leave gun owners the fuck alone.
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>>138889705
Why should I have to break a sweat if someone tries to rob or attack me/people I love?
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>>138889705
Did you just imply that food and water are human rights?
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>>138891378
It causes you to break a sweat picking up the phone and dialing 911?
>>138891279
>>138890993
Upvoted
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>>138891525
Did you just imply they aren't?
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>>138889705

2015 stats:
>15,696 murders (1.3% of violent crimes)
>71.5% of said murders done with firearms
=11,222.64

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-crime-statistics-released
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>>138892005
>Firearm suicides don't count xD
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>>138890993
Yurop banned assault trucks
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>>138892238
it sure makes suicide easy. not having a gun is not a deterrent for anyone who is set on an heroing, however
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STOP FUCKING RESPONDING
STOP FUCKING RESPONDING
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>>138891690
They literally aren't.
A 'right' is a very defined word.
You can't declare things rights because you want to declare them rights.
Should everyone have access to food and water? Of course (except for Turks), but declaring them rights isn't going to make it happen.
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>>138889705
if someone tries to take away your food and water, what will you do? This is why weapons are a human right. Rights exist ONLY through your ability to protect them.
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>>138892477
Rights don't exist the only rights we have are those that are enforced by the threat of force, which the government provides. However, in a civilized nation, the people have the right to life liberty and happiness.
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>>138892477
>>138891690
the only "right" to food is to go out and obtain it yourself. and how do we do that? hug animals to death?

also, saging
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>>138889705
You dont have a right to food and water...and you will never get our guns bitch, so just stfu already. Literally NOBODY is going to hand over there guns here in Texas for sure. So come get your ass filled with lead faggot.
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>>138891690
Here's the thing. I work my ass off 40+ hours every week to pay my bills (yes this includes groceries and water bill) and to be able to have enough left over for fun shit with my family. Lazy pieces of shit that demand the same as 'human rights' and fucking faggot apologists like you that want to give it to them all deserve to be hanged. What you're talking about is literally stealing the money that I've worked so hard for to ensure the next generation of lazy niggers and spics get their shit for free and will keep voting Dem because they think you gave it to them.
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>>138889705
>aussalt rifles
>kills 32,000 a year

Got a source for that or are we playing "let's pull numbers out of our ass" Oh look, it's a 14 and an 88! I was wondering where those went.
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>>138892686
See you fucked that up. No one has the right to happiness. The have the right to the PURSUIT of happiness. This means working for that happiness.
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>>138889705
We wouldn't need semi-automatic rifles if we weren't infested with assault niggers.
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>>138889705
>doesn't differentiate negative and positive rights
>conflation at its finest

Stay neophyte, pleb.
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>assault rifle
We can't own them.
OP is an uneducated faggot.
SAGE
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>>138889705
>Food is a human right
HOL UP
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>>138892686
The government can always be trusted to enforce your rights. No government throughout history has ever violated this rule. Right?
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>>138889705

I know this is a slide thread, but what the hell...

Those who are opposed to the right to keep and bear arms do so because they believe that people don't have the right to defend their lives and the lives of their families.

They believe that the unwashed masses have a duty to die when attacked; a sacrifice to the liberal gentrification called political correctness and progressiveness.
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>>138889705
Molon Labe, you genuflecting, obsequious, boot licking homo
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>>138889705
go tell that to israel and fuck off.
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>>138892282
eventually there will be nothing to ban but terrorism.
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>>138890672
you're doing the same thing by flooding european countries with terrorists
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>>138889705
What country do you live in? If not the US, why do you care?
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People who want to ban guns have peasant mentality. A person being able to arm himself, whether it be guns or swords etc., has historically been the status of a freeman. In many European countries where guns are outlawed for the masses, the aristocrats still have gun rights.
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>>138889705
George Washington OWNED a fucking warship with cannons and the rest. He owned it. Wasnt a government ship, wasnt a floaty mcboat yacht, it was a fucking warship. He, and the rest of our founding fathers, would absolutely support our rights to own rifles of damn near any sort. You are a fucking moron.
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>mfw I assemble untraceable, legal, AR15s
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>>138889705
>Of course I need an assault rifle
>How else will I shoot you in your stupid face
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>>138889705
Actually, it a right that is more important than just food and water. You can live as a slave with your mouth shut, but you can still have food and water. Guess what, living a life with freedom of speech, and the freedom to protect it, is worth much, much more.

I'd love to see where you get that 32000 number from, because that number includes suicides. people should have the right and freedom to suicide (actually a ''higher'' right than food or water imo), so if you exclude those numbers, you get statistics that perfectly reflect the USA's education, wealth and population. They don't have a gun problem, they have a people problemen, and in that sense, they can be considered a third world country in a lot of ways.

Mass shootings happen because killers want to effectively murder as many people as possible. In the US, you do this by grabbing a gun (most of the time illegally), and you start shooting. In Europe, you rent a van/steal a truck, and ram people. Guess which is responsible for more deaths per capita: vehicles or firearms.

Referring to the constitution is not a fallacy. Automatic weapons existed back then, as did ships of the line, cannons, etc. and all of those were fine - and they will always be fine.
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Show us your flag, Leaf
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>>138893886
is that the 80% arms jig?
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>>138889705
Eating is a human right, being provided food is not. Nice try nigger, always with the gibs. Fucking faggot
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>>138889705
We know what your up to fagot
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more than half of that 32 000 deaths figure is suicide the rest is from niggly bears fighting over sneakers
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>>138889705
Most of those are niggers
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>>138889705

>doesn't mean they would think it was ok to own semi automatic weapons TODAY.

Because you say so? Well shit, I'm convinced. Where do I get rid of it?
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>>138894064
Yes sir!
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>>138889705
>human right
>food, water
>positive liberties
nice trip, fag
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>>138889705
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>>138894404
nice! i was literally just looking at it on their site. thinking of ordering
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>>138889705
>People are just a statistic

I have the right to defend my life. I will not be made helpless by the government. Travel the Arizona desert and tell me you shouldn't be allowed the security of a gun!

Your life on Communism- not even once.
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>>138890672
It's not murder if you don't pull the trigger. Shoving responsibility into somebody's face because you do not agree with them is a logical fallacy.

>>138891576
>It causes you to break a sweat picking up the phone and dialing 911?
It does if you're aware of the response times of most police units.

>>138891690
Freedom is a higher right.

>>138892238
>easy, painless suicide isn't an a right

>>138892477
>implying Turks are humans

>>138892686
>rights don't exist
They always exist. A right is inalienable, and cannot be given, nor taken, by anyone. In a civilised nation, people have the right to life, death, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

>>138889705
>Assalt rafluhs kill 32K a year
That's the total gun murder rate, including suicide ya doofus. Majority is actually done with illegal pistols, but hey, why let that get in the way of a good troll thread.
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>>138894518
i made my ar15 with it too, with a drill press and only a 3/8 end mill off of amazon. It does require patience however.
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>>138889705
It's worse than you think. Food and Water aren't considered rights by conservatives but guns are
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>>138894404
I think they came up with a new one recently. But this worked just fine. Used it over and over to assemble untraceable rifles.
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>>138889705
You have no guns, but snackbars use cars to run over people.
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>>138894880

>patience

Just get music and beer in your garage. You're good to go.
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>>138893463
>murica
>have only two hands
>4878719 weapons
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>>138894594
>>138894220
Jesus fuck you idiots. It's not a slide thread. It's not a shill thread. It's just a clever troll posting a copypasta, replying five times, and getting out. Look at the tripname, look at >>138891576
>Upvoted
He knows what buttons to push here.
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2nd Amendment is Best Amendment
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>>138894890
a right is something naturally obtainable or doable by oneself. i.e. protecting one's life/property. what you're talking about is being handed food and water obtained through someone else's right and labor to obtain said food and water while you do nothing.
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That's the smell of sage in the air, not gunpowder.
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>>138889705

OP,

I live 15 miles north of the border in a rural area. Can you tell me what I should do to get your approval? I own over 60 guns.

How many should I have? What types are approved by you?
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>>138889705
>Bans the guns,
People use bats and knifes.
>Bans bats, knifes, forks and spoons.
People use fists.
>Bans physical training.
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>>138889705
If it wasnt for niggers, that number would drop significantly. Perhaps banning niggers is in order?
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>>138895623
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>>138889705
Kill yourself traitor.
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>>138889705
Food and water aren't rights, nor should they be. Being able to defend yourself should be a right though.
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>>138889705
Food and water aren't human rights, commie scum
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Ok.
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>>138889705

THIS IS NOW A FIREARMS SHOW N TELL THREAD.
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> bumping for red pills
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>>138892282
LOL
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>>138892686
There is no right to have others provide for you. For that to be at all possible you must dismiss freedom and self-ownership in order to get people to provide for your leeching ass. Guns, on the other hand, is the only effective way of protecting your life(LE response time cannot match it) being the only reliable self-defense tool and self-defense being the only defense with a reliably low response time. Life being a necessary precondition to exercise any other rights, a right to self-defense(including the possession of the necessary tools for it) is the most fundamental human right.

A restriction on firearms possession denies you the necessary tools to practice self-defense. Therefore it undermines the effectiveness of self-defense, and subsequently infringes on your right to life, the loss of which makes any other rights voided.
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>>138896048

>HBAR

Assembled with spare junk I had laying around.
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>>138895197
>implying any of these braindead dipshits can figure out 99% of these type of threads are falseflagging, larping, faggot trolls.

I fucking hate this place
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>>138889705
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>>138890672
niggers are not men
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>>138889705
it's this faggot again
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>>138892282
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>>138889705
Try telling your ancestors they didn't need tools in a hostile world. I dare you.
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Guns they go pew pew
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>>138897043
>his ancestors tools
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>>138889705
>I have not seen a single pro gun argument that hasn't resorted to using the constitution fallacy.

LOL, how about you make your argument without words if the words in the fucking constitution bother you so much.
kys, but bash your brains out with a rock since you disapprove of guns.
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>>138894252

suicide
Because
http://now.tufts.edu/news-releases/whites-believe-they-are-victims-racism-more-o
http://politicalblindspot.com/study-finds-white-americans-believe-they-experience-more-racism-than-african-americans/
http://thoughtcatalog.com/madison-moore/2014/01/study-shows-white-people-believe-they-experience-more-racism-than-black-people/
Which causes
http://www.healthaim.com/america-whites-higher-risk-hopeless-feel-depression-blacks/56041
http://www.alan.com/2016/04/23/u-s-suicide-rates-higher-especially-for-whites/
http://students.com.miami.edu/netreporting/?page_id=1285
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34667100/poor-white-boys-get-a-worse-start-in-life-says-equality-report
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New day...same robo-thread.

Saged.
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>>138896237
Think about it. Why don't they benefit from race-based policies that protects and prioritizes them? Why is any "pro-White" organization considered socially unacceptable?
Every demographic has people who will favor their own kind, but whites are by far the most benevolent and the only ones who are constantly expected to bend over lest they hear cries of racism. You wouldn't see the equivalent of #OscarsSoWhite being taken seriously or getting traction in Asian countries that are 99% Asian or in India despite them being a much larger share of the world's population than Whites. Only whites are expected to go above and beyond to provide for other people. In fact they will cripple themselves just to be "inclusive". The fact that whites are considered the "default" in Western societies is just a natural result of having a demographic majority in the countries they built, just like blacks being the "default" in Africa, Asians being the default in Asian countries.
The ironic thing is that the collectivists who complain about white privilege will generalize just as much as the "racists" they hate. They will ignore individual factors like class, genes, upbringing and will seriously claim that a poor white with low IQ from Bumfuck, Michigan, unattractive, with no education, whose mother died when he was young, had general bad luck in life and shit genes is more "privileged" than some rich, intelligent "minority" with a good family, well-educated and growing up in a well-administered city with good luck in life who benefited from AA policies.
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>>138889705
>It's no wonder that you have more mass shootings than all other developed nations combined.
Just let me drop another redpill here.

Pic related is the death caused by mass shootings in the US in one year. Note that the terrorist attack on Nice caused more fatalities than any year on record. Note that the US highscore has been held for 90 years now, by a guy with just a lot of explosives. Firearms are rarely most effective if you really want to murder loads of people.
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If you want those guns banned than free speech should I longer appply to social media and everything that was invented after the bill of rights >>138889705
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The advantages to killing someone or something with a ranged weapon are clear, and desirable. This power can be used for good or for evil. But any form of power is something people will want, and anything people want, they will obtain, regardless of factors such as law, morality, etc. Even if you want to argue that guns are immoral, your choice to not own a gun does not prevent predators from owning weapons. You are giving yourself an objective disadvantage, just because you had this dumb, fallacious idea in your head that you were being "moral" or something. There is no real value in it whatsoever, you are effectively just giving yourself a combat disadvantage to stroke your own ego and feel "good" about yourself.

Furthermore, guns are just an evolution of other more primitive types of ranged attacking. From throwing rocks, to slings, to bow / arrows, to muskets, to modern guns, and everything in between. Some anti-gunners will try to argue that "we just want to ban semi-autos, you can keep your bolt action rifles". But these arguments are inherently silly, because wherever they draw the line is arbitrary. You should either support the concept of self-defense, or don't. If you wouldn't be ok with me shooting a robber who broke into my house, don't tell me it would be ok to throw a rock at him in order to defend myself. Because then you're just creating silly rules for me to follow, and not the robber; it's ok to defend myself, as long as I don't do so in an effective way. That's just dumb and there's no value in it whatsoever.

Ultimately anti-gun arguments always boil down to fundamentally misunderstanding human nature. You believe you can put a cap on human potential, and you sit around fantasizing about banning things, and hindering technology. You also attribute magical powers to the government, even though they're the same species as us. Like they can just decide "we don't like this object, therefore it's gone". They can't do that anymore than you or I could.
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>>138897678
Even more disturbing; imagine a white Africa.
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>>138889705
mass shootings are 3 or more victims involved.

>>138897844

these dutch fags have stricter gun laws yet their entertainers and politicians are still getting killed of like flies.
their harbor is in control of niggers from the antils and moroccans who use it to trade drugs in to the rest of europe
they have the highest amount of non natives of the whole of europe and the 2e highest percentage of muslims and they have 800 raped committed every week.

now most of the rapes are committed by colored, and most of the mass shootings are committed by colored, lets give all the white ones guns, except for the commie whites. and shoot all the nigs and shits instead, that way we are left with only the school shootings (which would reduce to as white kids wont be tormented in school any more by the nigs).
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>>138898868

did you know that south africa was unpopulated for 100,000 years until whites showed up.
And im not speaking of just the country, i mean the whole south used to be noting but until colonizing whites arrived that attracted some migrating hunters to the area, they fed them taught them agriculture and this caused the africans to surge in population numbers. africa was sparsely inhabitation before then and allot of areas where empty of ppl as africans used a slash and burn agricultural technique.

When ever the whites leave/get raped to death in a landgrab the blacks simply starve again

There is a whites only district called 'Orania' in the Northern Cape. However they're primarily Afrikaaners and seem to be the equivalent of the Amish in how they conduct themselves. As for the rest of SA, where I stay it's a security village. We have 2 levels of security gates to get home, and all surrounding walls have electric fence and razor wire. It's like living in a prison. Working on getting out, but the biggest hurdle is the South African passport is pretty worthless (You can't travel hardly anywhere without requiring a visa), and the value of the Rand is so low that it makes it cost prohibitive for most people to move away.
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>>138889705
>Boohoo semi-automatic weapons

Fuck you, shill. Most pistols are semi-automatic, some shotguns are semi-automatic. And you want to complain about "assault rifles". They look scary. You don't like that. Therefore they are bad. Sage.
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>>138899648
afaik the cape was entirely unpopulated, they found some sparse khoisan further inland but still within the modern borders. Demographic downfall is mainly from the brits importing bantus for the mines according to what I've read.
>where I stay
Oh. I've seen a few clips. Man are they brazen. It's crazy your security firms apparently offer to escort people through their gates, that's just unbelievable. Understandable, but unbelievable. I hope you make it out soon so you can work on your life with some semblance of stability. Shouldn't have gone the way it did.
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>>138889705

700,000 Americans die to heart disease every year.

There are far bigger problems than people defending themselves.
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>>138889705
>food and water
>human rights

Yeah, no. Pick one, bitch.
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