Only idiots buy lottery tickets. Why?

>>138864619
Because gambling is a tax on idiocy. It's a self-imposed tax on the stupid and the people with no or little math education.

>>138864750
Så spilla du vikinglotto i går? Neida, jeg bare ködder. Jeg har kjöpt bare en sånn lottokupong för. Et sånn skraplodd, men det er jo bare slös av penger.

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What a bunch of pussies, do you even have pic related in every grocery store or are you some sort of cucks?

>>138864750
I've always had good luck with scratch off tickets where the odds of winning are ~1/4, but Powerball and other big loterries are retarded

>>138865415
Always old people. Why?

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>>138864750

>>138864619
Meh, I bought an instant lottery last week after several months, and of course I lost.
You don't buy it to win, you buy the experience of scratching it, the suspence and the hope you'll actually win some significant amount of money - even though you know you won't.

>>138865415

We have 'em, just not in grocery stores.
Retards manage to lose their entire paychecks in these fucking things.

I like playing black jack with friends, but gambling to make money doesn't make sense. You would be better off spending the money on books and learning how to navigate your laws and regulations.

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>>138865415
>>138865536
Old people.

>>138864619
Because they're idiots?

because how else are you gonna get rich if you're a dumb loser?
t. dumb loser increasingly willing to engage in lotteries

>>138865536
they probably have nothing else to do

>>138864619
Because anyone with a 3 digit IQ knows the odds are heavily rigged against them. Smart people who want to risk their money do it on investments

>>138864619
A couple of days worth of hope and dreams for $2. Is fun when done occasionally.

>>138865901
This and take solace in the fact that this is what many spend all of their social security money on, now get a job millennial and stop destroying everything.

>>138864619
because only poor people buy lottery tickets becaus wagecucks. Since a good 90% of poor wagecucks are dumb af because they didn't study hard enough at school.

>>138864619
I used to say that until my father won 500k, motherfucker didn't want to give me money so he made a business and gave it to me to manage it. I have to fucking work for him now

>>138864619
YOU ARE A FAGGOT and everyone else in this fucking shit hole web page. I hate you all.
I hate this shit page, I can't escape it.
I am so tired of all this nonsense threads.
You people are dumb. GOD JUST BURN THEM ALL.

>>138865536

It's the closest they can get to vidya.

>>138864750
>math education
>implying math is the superior skill and philosophy a'd literature is worthless

>>138864619
I play a $3 scratch off bingo once every paycheck. Won $500 off of $3. Literally almost doubled my paycheck for $3. I don't understand when people blow $100 or $200 at a time though. I would never waste more than $10 on them a paycheck. They're designed to play off of hope, winning is nice, but that $500 win is such a rarity even amongst the avid players that I know not to spend crazy money on them. Plus I get to play bingo. They're fun, it's $3 I would have spent on food or art, so whatever. Stop trying to impose your self proclaimed massive intellect on life styles you disagree with. If anything, it makes you more of a close-minded idiot than them.

>>138866116
>have a business handed down to you
>salty because he didn't outright give you money
Its a good thing, you would have wasted it.

>>138864619

It's almost like playing the genetic lottery. I can tell that you already lost OP.

>>138866143
>Alt+F4 x2
>Shutdown computer
>go outside

there buddy

>>138864619
Fuck you people are fucking stupid.

Whenever the jackpot exceeds the odds of winning plus the cost of buying a ticket, it becomes perfectly rational to play, as the potential return is now more than sufficient to compensate for the risk of losing a few dollars.\

It's basic fucking math. Classic risk/return analysis. No wonder you're all poorfags.

>>138866390
oh, You're so smart.
How about Alt+F4 Your dick? Shit faced faggot.

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>>138866298
I don't play the lotto though.

>>138866434
You've never won, you idiot. And you never will. So you're then one who will be thousands of dollars poorer than non-gamblers in total. At the end of the day.

>>138864619
>thinks only one type of person can buy a lottery ticket
sounds like someone needs to get out and walk around a little bit, see new things like the outside world for once

>>138866498
It's ok man, we love you for what you are. Don't be so angry have a beer and relax. :)

>>138867147
FUCK. You're kind to me. guess I won't be rude to You then.

>>138866434
>you don't try lottery
>no wonder you're a poorfag

that's almost pletry

>>138866434
>Whenever the jackpot exceeds the odds of winning plus the cost of buying a ticket,

what exactly does this mean? the odds of winning get smaller by the exact amount that the jackpot goes up.

>>138866862
Well every time I look towards the lotto counter in the grocery store, there's a retired baby boomer buying a ticket. So I'm not wrong.

>>138866792
Goddamn you are straight stupid. You don't know me. You make a claim based on pure probability while denying the very power of probability itself.

All that I said is correct. And you fucking know it. You would only say "I've never won" because there is a 1:300 million chance of being correct. Well dum dum, 1:300 million is still a statistical realty to be gamed.

Which is exactly what you did with your cunty comment.

>>138867540
Sorry, I meant 1:300 million chance of being wrong.

>>138867540
So how much have you won?

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>>138864619
I run a small office lottery pool, with 10 people reliably giving me $20 a week to buy tickets that we all split. I have a friend doing the same thing at his job as well. Every week we switch off between one person pocketing the cash, and the other buying tickets and putting them on a 8x11 sheet of paper and copying them to share with both pools.

>>138864619
Sometimes these gamblers are religious, they believe 'God' likes them so much and wants to reward them.

>>138865803
Only old people do it in Norway too.

>>138865149
>ö
>ikkje o

Jævla svensklinger

>>138864619
What makes you say that? I don't play super often, but I've won over $700 in the past six months

>>138865529
With the powerball I see it as $2 to fantasize about winning it for a little while

>>138870968
This. /pol/ is too self-absorbed and cynical to appreciate the dream.

>>138866434
>Whenever the jackpot exceeds the odds of winning plus the cost of buying a ticket

That literally never fucking happens.

>>138870538
As you can see. Norwegian ö is not registered on 4chan. Jævla halvneger.

no matter what race sex religion or whatever when i walk into a bodega and see some person who obviously doesn't have much money throwing down forty to a hundred bucks on lotto tickets it's always the saddest thing

>>138864619
It's the multiverse Morty. Buy a ticket and there's a version of you that won.

>>138864619
>let me shit on other people's hopes for a little while
Dude too much blackpill.
Just because it's mostly useless doesn't mean it doesn't make that guy work those extra hours for hope.

>>138865536
Might as blow the ungrateful brats' inheritance on the chance of winning a cruise

Because people realise that you can't make it anymore just through hard work...fewer well paying jobs, higher taxes, inflation, wealth transfer...etc

>>138872525
O Canada, our home and native land.

>>138864619
I earn about $100 profit doing scratchy tickets every month, that's extra money to go into my savings account.

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I buy a €2 eurojackpot ticket every friday. I've won between €10-€20 a fair number of times.
It's obvious I've spent more than won but it's not that big of an investment and you never know when you can get lucky.

>>138864619
Stupid people make stupid decisions. "I might win the jackpot with this ticket", yes but if you didn't buy it you'd have two dollars to put in savings. But these kind of people(stupid poors) have no sense of time or saving.

>>138867840
This may come as a shock to a eurofaggot such as yourself, but I'm under no obligation to answer any of your faggy questions.

I won 30,000,000 dollars using the lottery. Lottery is love, lottery is life

>>138864619
If you want to make money with lottery tickets you need to be the one selling them.

I agree that, mathematically its stupid.
Its a tax on hope.
HOWEVER, there IS a mathematical approach to sample/selection/result thinking,

and,
UNDER that philosophy,
IF
your goal is (win the lottery),
mathematically (purchase any number of tickets)
has an (infinitely) greater chance of (goal condition achieved) than

(Chance of goal achieved) X (zero tickets).

Sure, its a somewhat naive stance, as not spending on the lottery will PROBABLY be better for you,
BUT
(any) chance is vastly better than (no chance).

One school of philosophy suggests, that if you're nearly broke, you take your last few dollars, and bet everything on a 50/50 roulette spin TWICE, and hope for the one-in-four chance of (great outcome), since the 3in4 outcomes are, mathematically ALMOST the same as having the near zero you began with.

Make of that what you will.
Gamblings mostly for suckers.

>>138865536
they have nothing to lose

To understand lotteries you need to understand how humans get addicted to games of chance. The odds that you scratch a ticket and get nothing, against the odds of winning...it's the same reason why people are addicted to social media, it's a roulette of good and bad things which come randomly.

People love betting against odds

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Are scratch tickets degenerate? I'll buy one occasionally if I have a spare dollar lying around. I typically win more often than I lose, even if it's just breaking even.

>>138864619
Because it was $2 for a shot at 3/4 of a billion dollars

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>>138873570
this
I won ten trillion buckaroos pic related

A lottery is a tax for being bad at math.

>>138873725
>be mathematician
>buy infinite number of tickets

>>138869051
You're so fucking dumb. You can't pay $2 for a fucking miracle.

That's how poor people who bitch about lottery actually are. Spend $2 on 100 mils of Vodka anytime, but cry about other people speeding their own $2 dollars on a mathematically disclosed risk/reward propitiation.

Only time I buy lottery tickets is when the jackpot gets insanely high like it did recently where it was at like $700+ million. Sure I'm not gonna win but putting a few dollars towards piece of paper the chance at never needing to be a wageslave again is worth it.

Stupid tax

>>138873884
>when your country is so shit the only thing you have to advertise is a literal pile of rocks

If you spend more than 5% of your salary on lottery tickets/scratch cards, you're 100% addicted.

>>138874187
*proposition

>>138864619
if i have the disposable income to spend two dollars, then who the fuck are you to tell me how to spend my money?

>>138874247
I will never understand this logic. To people like you and me, there is no real difference between 50 million dollars and 500 million dollars. Both would permanently change your life in pretty much the same way.

>>138864619
"A fool and his money are soon parted"

>>138872025
Why not just save up for a cruise?

>>138873884
making bank.

will that buy a loaf of bread or some mud cookies?

>>138864619
>Only idiots buy lottery tickets. Why?
because 1+ lucky idiot(s) have a chance to escape poverty and never have to lift a finger again

I buy a lottery ticket every week just to have the chance however small it may be in order to escape slavery aka JOB

>>138874561
A wiser person

>>138864619
You will get fairer odds by doing a 20 team football accumulator. It will pay off the same but will have a better chance of winning. Sports accumulators are a lot more fun as well.

It's still never going to win, but it's a hell of a lot better than playing unwinnable bingo.

>>138874576
It's not permanent. Most lottery winners end up broke in just a few years.

>>138874709
i have some ideas on how you can spend your money

>>138874054
Sure, but people who never play the lottery are equally bad at math.

There is a point where the potential prize money is more than adequate to compensate for the immaterial risk of losing a few dollars.

And it's not hard to calculate either. Since the odds of winning and cost of a ticket are honestly exposed up front.

>>138864619
>Why?

YA GOTTA BE IN IT TA WIN IT ! ! ! !

>>138866434
>Whenever the jackpot exceeds the odds of winning plus the cost of buying a ticket, it becomes perfectly rational to play

This never happens of course and have not happened a single time in modern history. Because there is a large chance that you just share the jackpot.

>It's basic fucking math. Classic risk/return analysis.

Only for idiots. Much better to risk it on cryptocurrency or something. Much greater risk/return there. So it makes no rational sense to play the lottery when there are much better options available.

>>138874886
go ahead

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I used to buy tickets all the time, but 1:50.000.000 odds is ridiculous.
Worse, they raised the price for a game by ridiculous values over time. R$ 1,00 a game to R$ 2,00 and then to R$ 3,50, yeah, fuck you.

I've never won anything, not even the minimum prizes to return the money I spent. Stop playing anything at all, even the 1:2.000 chance for the mentioned minimum prize is ridiculous. Meanwhile, polititians enter a winning game for themselves in the system (only games allowed are government's ones) anytime they want.

If you really feel the need to play with your money, do so in games that require skill. You're better off getting rich through crime than by being ripped off.

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>>138864619
>When I'm standing in line buying some iced tea and old fat people are buying lottery tickets in front of me.

Why do rich whites exploit poor whites so much? Why can't we take care of our own people? Makes me sad.

>>138864619
So they can hold up the line for 10-15 minutes for everyone else at the gas station. Fuck people who buy those things. You ain't gonna win shit you narcissistic sons of bitches.

>>138874269
Please don't insult Zimbabwe's greatest monument

>>138875020
stop spending money to support Muslims that are invading your country

>>138871312
It just fucking happened. The odds of winning powerball are 1 in 300 million, but he jackpot was 700 million.

Please stop using the word 'never'. I suspect you do not know what it means.

>>138864619
Lotteries don't sell tickets, they sell hope.

>Never got scammed by the RNJew
>Decide "fuck it, I'll buy a few once"
>Win $70 off a single scratch off
>Haven't bought a ticket since

>>138874576
Trust me, if you get 50 million, after a while you would start thinking about the things that you could do if you had 500. This is just human nature. Greed is an integral part of our psyche.

>>138874997
Holy shit you are dumb. It's like you have a religion against probability or something. Drop your stupid bias, and realize that everything I've told you is mathematically correct.

Honestly, is 2 dollars so precious you must make a fool of yourself on the internet?

>>138873385
So 0. Okay thanks. Your comments now effectively mean nothing.

>>138864619
sometimes someone gets lucky.

>sometimes

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>>138874855
because most lottery winners can't stop splurging on coke and hookers
+ they don't keep the fact that they won to themselves, they always scream "hey look at me im rich" and that just leads them to splurge even more on their money grabbing friends and family

they're too stupid to buy bitcoin.

>>138866211
It is you Sorbonne nigger

>t. Polytechnicien

>>138875846
Funfact: I knew you were going to say that.

You're like a robot programmed to do one exactly one thing, but it's not listening.

>>138864619
yes it is extremely unlikely that you will win the lottery
but it happens
it was extremely unlikely that Trump would be the president of the US in 2015 and here we are

highly improbable =/= impossible

of course, this only applies if you play like a sane person (aka buying one ticket for a few euros) not like a degenerate gambler sinking thousands into oblivion

so people play because as slim as the chance is, it still exists and everyone would like getting millions of dollars/euros/whatever for basically free

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>>138876081
Funfact: I knew you were going to say something of no value here. You're the one wasting your time here. Well I suppose I am too, but at least I'm enjoying myself looking at the saltiness behind your comments.

>>138875308
Brought to you by state x.

>>138876365
Trump winning is almost a 1/2 chance. Winning the lottery is 300,000,000 times less likely than that.

>>138876081
In fact, you only said that because it was mathematically appropriate to do so. It was a gamble. There is still some chance you could be wrong.

But you decided the probability of being wrong was so slight you could claim false witness anyhow, without being guilty of doing so.

You are doing exactly as I advised. Only instead of using that magic to win millions of dollars, you are using it to argue with a random troll on the internet who is clearly smarter than you.

>>138876559
trump winning was a 1/2 chance in 2016
trump winning was far far far more unlikely in 2015 - there was an australian on /pol/ who won thousands by betting a single dollar on Trump wining when he just announced he would run

>>138876417
Do you honesty think I don't love the salt? Fucking newfag.

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>>138876660
Okay :)

>>138876081
Even if you are being offered profitable odds on a 300 million to 1 shot - unless you have enough money to front in order to make the chance of winning it significantly high - the best move is still not to play. The odds are so huge that it is more likely that you will die before you ever win it, so you are basically throwing away money, even if the potential winnings technically put the odds in your favour.

>>138875269
>It just fucking happened. The odds of winning powerball are 1 in 300 million, but he jackpot was 700 million.

I hear ya, but you've missed two facts:
>1 - cost for a ticket was $2 not $1, so the $700 million payout was really like 2-to-700M, or 1-to-350M, which is closer to the 1-in-300M odds
>2 - usually big pots will win multiple tickets, so your 2-to-700M win really becomes 2-to-2xxM if it splits 3 ways. So again, there is validity to saying the odds still aren't on the favorable side cost-to-payout.

But hey, I still played. It cost less money than I put on the tip last time I went to dinner.

Someone has to win.....its one thing if you think its rigged but saying "the odds aren't good" is retarded

>>138873129
same, I turn in a small stack of winners at the end of the month and impress the cashier, and it pays for the next month

>>138876794
You're enjoying yourself being salty? I think you're misunderstanding what being salty means.

>>138876716
Indeed I was talking about late election.

>>138875269
>forgetting about the possibility of multiple people winning

Idiot.
The expected outcome is negative.

>>138864619
Buying a lottery ticket once a month is actually not that bad. It's hours of entertainment, of hopes and dreams for a couple bucks.

>>138865765
If you understand blackjack it's not hard to come out even, little loss, or some winning. Slots are just stupid.

>>138875644
>It's like you have a religion against probability or something.
Im a professional statistician( I am a data scientist). If what you said was true then financial analysts and data scientists who work in the financial sector would invest in the lottery. But they are not dumb like you. Gambling is a tax on people who don't know statistics and probability. You suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect if you really think it makes sense from a mathematical perspective. Because it does not, stop being an idiot.

If what you said was true then people with money would just pour tons of money into the lottery because they would be able to exploit such probabilities when they just can buy tons of tickets.

Those 2 dollars can be invested much wiser elsewhere. Gambling is for idiots and people who don't know math. The only winner in gambling is the house

>>138864750
Fpbp, lottery is a tax on those who don't understand probability.

>>138866116
What are you, a nigger? 500k is nothing in the grand scheme of things anyway, especially with the tax you'd pay. You would have blown it all then ended up working for him or someone else.

>>138876971
the point is people will always play the lottery because as one anon pointed out, someone will always win, and if nothing else it's nice to dream it will be you

it costs you very little if you're rational (buying a euromillions ticket every friday is 8 euros per month - thats like two packs of cigarettes its pocket change), and there does exist the (extremely remote) chance that you will win

the only way you are guaranteed to not win is if you don't play

also you don't have to win millions, I once won 140 euros on eurolottery and it was worthwhile since I invested 2 euros

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>not playing based maze-style scratch-offs tucked into your Christmas stocking

I sure you guys don't not get to do this :^)

>>138876862
>Someone has to win....
What? No.

>>138876914
I'm enjoying the rest of you being stupid on a medieval religious level.

The odds of winning the lottery are disclosed. The estimated jackpot is disclosed. The cost of a ticket is disclosed.

You are literally given absolutely all data necessary to make a mathematically appropriate determination as to whether or not to play., And still you bitch. Because you are fucking stupid.

>>138877324

"What did you get me for Christmas? Oh, I see, a lottery ticket."
*scratch* *scratch* *scratch*
"Nothing. You got me nothing for Christmas. Thanks."

>>138877081
Even if you commit to basic strategy, you are still losing a cent on every 2 dollars you put down on blackjack. It's the only table game I ever play if I'm in a casino but it's still a suckers game like all the others, you'll just lose your money a bit slower.

>>138877593
umm yes
if a round goes without winners, the jackpot increases
this goes on until someone wins
this is how lottery crazes happen when there isn't a winner in a while and the jackpot becomes absurdly high (one time the jackpot was 600 million euros and naturally 10x as many people played) - just like that the odds of someone hitting the right combination of numbers increases 10 times

someone always wins

>>138864619
buying a 6 euro ticket once a month ain't no problem

>>138877682
I quite frankly don't care what you waste your money on :)

Fun discussion.

>>138870968
im fine with that, i just think going out and spending anything more than $20 on lottery tickets is retarded

>>138877739
>you are still losing a cent on every 2 dollars you put down on blackjack

Less than the cost of the free drinks. If you like playing blackjack and you like free drinks, it's an overall win. Plus, in a lot of places, you get to stare at cocktail waitress cleavage.

>>138876858
Criticism #1 I accept. Of course I should have adjusted the odds of winning to the cost of playing.

Criticism number is absolutely irrelevant for the people we're arguing with here. It's their positions nobody can win. How can you legitimately argue many people will win while simultaneously arguing nobody will win?

>>138877844
theres also a balance- the more people paly the lower your payoff, due to multiple possible winners

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>This entire thread

Are you really so poor that people spending one or two dollars for the chance to dream of winning several hundred million gets you this butthurt?

>>138878075
But you do. Because you're a fucking commie.

>>138870968
This. The endorphins released fantasizing for a week about what I'd do if I win make it worth the money spent on it.

>>138878462
sure, but again it's a chance not a certainty
(and besides who in their right mind would bitch about getting """"only"""" 200 million instead of 600 million when you invested 2 euros)

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>>138878594
Okay :)

>>138878559
What's all this shit about 2 dollars? Most people I know buy several tickets, often amounting to upwards of 20 dollars a week.

>>138878841
Truth hurts, doesn't it?

>>138876858
odds go up for the split
but yeah if you want to gamble just open a position with a few dollars at 100x leverage on bitcoin or something, at least then the upside is huge and you're very likely to actually 'win' with a bit of common sense

>>138878559
letsd say 10$ a month, which is 120$ a year, at 7% interest. if you start playing lotto at 20 and your life ends at 80, that would cost you potential 90k$$$. so yeah, for poor people its a stupid expense

>>138870968
>>138878752
you can fantasize about winning without wasting your dollars, same result but you save the money

>>138878903
ah but thats because they're retards
similar to a woman I once saw - she won 200 000 kn on a lottery ticket for 5 kn - instead of taking the money and running she turned around and played 20 new tickets for 500 kn each

of course she won jack shit

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>>138878559

I hear ya, and I occasionally play for fun,
but a lot of the thread is legitimately attacking this kind of bullshit:

>"I knew I was always destined for great things. This must be it! I was destined to be the winner of the highest lottery jackpot in existence. I knew right then and there that this jackpot was meant for me. Who else deserved such a victory? I had been through so much rejection, suffering, and injustice in my life, and this was to be my salvation. With my whole body filled with feverish hope, I spent $700 dollars on lottery tickets for this drawing. As I spent this money, I imagined all the amazing sex I would have with a beautiful model girlfriend I would have once I become a man of wealth."

>>138878903
>>138879086
>>138879130

I sell lottery at work. The addicts are a minority and mainly focus on smaller jackpot games with higher odds. Most people just look at the signs, see when the jackpot gets really high, and buy a few tickets on the big game.

Why can't people grasp that for the majority of players the lottery is as much a form of entertainment as it is a chance to win money.

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>>138878559
Lol those 2$ can end up in hundreds to thousands if you do this for a long time.
Long-term its bad for you no matter if there are chances of winning

>>138876845
It's pocket money you fucking poorfag. No wonder the elite want to genocide the lot of you useless eaters.

>>138879574
>Lol those 2$ can end up in hundreds to thousands if you do this for a long time.

Why the fuck do you care?

>>138879700
I'm talking from a purely logical perspective. If you enjoy it, fine, have at it. But don't sit there and try to tell me it's a profitable investment.

>>138879382
Hmm. Pic related seems dumb. Like a bunch of future HIV-ridden black cock consumers dumb.

>>138873385
Holy fuck lol

>>138879991
Oh so you're not only a sad, angry individual. You also have pedophilic tendencies.

>>138880029
ikr dat lard answer

>>138879852
Nobody does. It's a game, not an investment

[spoiler]That said, I do play once in a while and have actually made a moderate profit thus far.[/spoiler]

I bought 3 diff 20 dollar scratchers in a 6 month period and won 500, 1000, and 3,000 so I spent 60 and got 4500.Nothing stupid about that you just have shitty luck and are a cuck

I throw away 2 buck sometimes because I hate having lots of small changes in my purse, might have done it like five time in two years. I don't give a fuck, I don't spend money on anything except on food, books and my studio which cost me less than 100 dollarydoos per month.

>>138866226
>proclaimed massive intellect
>spent on food or art

holy fuck it's a walking fedora

>inb4 "wow that take long to come up with?"

>>138880369
Tryhard much? The math is on my side. It's a pity you cannot appreciate one of the greatest tools even invented by our species.

>>138880941
Not sure what it's like over there, you might have stricter gambling laws to stop punters being ripped off, but over here our scratch cards are a fucking disgrace. They generally offer something like a 20-30% ROI, and idiots still buy them.

You fucking morons you have a WAY better shot at winning decent money putting a couple grand into the stock market then you do buying lotto tickets.

I buy them to round off my bill when I am paying cash. I don't see why you have to spaz out about it, the proceeds go to a good cause.

>>138864619

Gives them hope.

>>138879714
Maybe because retards like you can't see the bigger picture and im trying to show you it?

>>138881012
>in my purse
You know the rules

>>138866143

U MAD BRO ?

>>138881227
>The math is on my side

Then you need to redo your math. Because you're wrong.

>>138864619
don't call my mom an idiot you cheeky fuck

>>138865536
Kids are grown up, no thrills in their lives.

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i have family friends who played a large ticket shared with 10-13 people and they won 700k and there is no tax on lottery wins here, that's also just 1 example. We know a few who have won and one guy won more then once. I never play lottery personally but you could very well win. You either play the same numbers over and over or take your chance with the computer

>>138864619
If you don't play you don't win.

This lady never knew she'd win but did

I bought eight tickets in the same State ..it could have (should have ) been me.. I'll keep buying them..

>>138880607
>a game
>with money
jews deserve to win frankly
fuck it

>>138878559
For many poor people, after rent, utilities, cost of car ownership, insurances, food and necessities, they're left with maybe $100 a month to actually spend on luxuries. So $10 a month on lottery tickets and that's 10% of your disposable income just thrown away.
Why not put that money into stocks, gold, Bitcoin, basically ANYTHING where you have at least a decent chance to grow your money? Or just save it up so you can actually afford some presents for your family at Christmas?

And of course it doesn't end with a $2 ticket a week, does it. No, why not get some scratchcards as well while I'm here. And the slot machines, just once a weekend for half an hour to take the edge off. And of course my cigarettes, gotta have those.
And bam suddenly you've wasted $100 a month or easily more on things that a smart person wouldn't have. Go ask any rich person how much lottery they played before they became rich.

Now personally I don't care if poor people want to throw their money away, BUT if you ever got caught buying a lottery ticket they should revoke your food stamps and welfare benefits. You obviously don't need them. Sorry, but I don't want my taxes going to fund your addiction.

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>>138864619
>Not winning often by manipulating the fabric of reality

If you give a single fuck about $2 or someone else spending $2 .. You are truly a retarded loser and major faggot.

>>138882161
Lol

>>138881266

I live in commiefornia and suprisingly there is alot of big winners here all the time.I saw a guy scratch off a 500,000 and flip his shit lol I would to.I also saw some lady scratch off one we have here called the lucky for life you can eithr win 500 1000 5000 or 20000 dollars a week for 25 years.She won the 500 which is still fucking nice

>>138879852
It is indeed a positive investment when the expected return exceeds the potential risk plus the initial outlay.

Do you even know anything about investing and risk management? Or do you live in some commie shithole?

>>138879714
So many times retards think "you're decisions are bad" means "I want to force you to make better decisions". You can make whatever retarded choices you want but people will point out that you're retarded.

>>138864619
every time you buy a lottery ticket, a (you) in 1 quantum dimension wins.

>>138881741
Really? Prove it then.

>>138882384
I already explained this in a previous post. I may have not worded my post correctly, I'll try again.

It may be a PROFITABLE investment, but it is not a VIABLE investment, unless you plan on living for 10 thousand years or buying millions of tickets.

>>138882384
>It is indeed a positive investment when the expected return exceeds the potential risk plus the initial outlay.
But it isn't. You admitted here >>138878459 that your own math on this was wrong but brushed it off because ???
By the way you also forgot that lottery winning are taxable. So you're not getting 700 million.

Gambling isn't a fucking investment you nonce.

>>138864750
Ya i was just about to post idiot tax

>>138864619
A huge difference between near 0% chance and a 0% chance

>>138865610
I dont get this maymay

>>138865536
Yeah when im too old to barely stand and cant shit properly then what else am i going to do?

>>138866211
Funny how'd you say considering your display of reading comprehension ya' fucking dingus. Math is obviously superior as simple statistics will tell you you're a fucking idiot if you fall for lotto tickets.

>>138864619
>Only idiots buy lottery tickets. Why?
because its an idiotic thing to do ?

>>138882924
You can't sacrifice $2 at the alter of the math gods. Fucking poorfag.

>>138882924
>unless you plan on living for 10 thousand years or buying millions of tickets.
its not going to get better if you buy more ticket or live longer retard

Which is more faggot tier. Thibking you will get rich saving $2 and being a miserable cunt, or playing the lotto and getting some fun fantasy time? Do you fuck wads also belive that people shouldn't spend money on entertainment ? I bet you faggots are the same losers that don't tip waitresses.

>>138882983
All investment is gambling, numbnuts. It's why you must diversify. I'm literally paid to invest other people's money. Don't try to lecture me on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WIbwxGPA30

>>138865529
Powerball odds often get close to fair return when it gets high by the way

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>>138864750
>he didn't put any points in Luck

>>138864619
It's literally one dollar. Unless you're spending $200 on tickets what is the issue?

>>138879089
Yeah, just like I can look at my unplugged television with a controller in my hands and pretend I'm playing a great video game.

>>138883872
>All investment is gambling
This.

A lot of things are gambling but you have idiots who don't realise it.

>>138884031
OP is a begger. He believes people should throw him those coins instead.

>>138882761
No mathematician would ever buy a lottery ticket. If you walked into the Dodd Stadium (Georgia Tech) and placed a penny on the field somewhere. Then ask a friend to put on a blindfold and walk into the stadium with a penny as well. If that friend placed the penny in the exact same location, that would be 15 times more likely to happen than winning a powerball jackpot.

The same with a dice, if you roll a dice on the same number 10 times in a row, that's still 5 times as likely as winning the jackpot.

But you're the one, right? You just know you are. As they all say.

>>138882983
I admitted I misspoke. Doesn't change the fact that $2 for a shot at $700 million when the odds of winning are 1:300 million though.

>>138868717
That's clever but will put you in a world of shit if you got caught. Literal prison time.

>>138877707
You had fun, didn't you?

Ungrateful shit.

>>138864750
amazing how this thread has so many replies when this post exists
I'm just going to assume the rest are rural suburban retards defending their gambling

>>138884152
Fucking kek

>>138884031
at the end of the years, those 2$ add up especially considering that its mostly people who need those 2$ the most who gamble

>>138879086
Found the jew

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Woah dude so like nobody must win these things then right? Nobody must get any excitement from the chance of winning right? Woahhhhh dude like you so smart and shiet I wish I could be like you and only save my money for prestined investments. Tell me, how many millions are you making now? I sure hope none of that money goes towards anything recreational because that would be very low IQ.

>>138884152
as opposed to what, dipshit?
if your goal is to play pretend, what are you gonna do, play an actual game?
analogies how do they work xdddd

board is full of morons

>>138884506
>M-Muh Math

Of course the odds are stacked against the player. Lottery and other gambling establishments couldn't exist if they paid out more than they take in.

>>138884372
Holy shit you are dumb. I personally know a PHD in Mathematics who tells me when I need to buy a ticket.

You need to get off the internet for a time.

This is not hard. Probability can be measured.

>>138864619
It's an addiction, one of worst. There are so many families that gone broke, even homeless because gambling. If daddy is gambling then mommy will soon have to work as prostitute.

>>138864619
hope for the hopeless

I guess we're just stupid
t. Powerball winner

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>>138877155
We know that.
But what about the single guy who DO wins the lottery out of hundreds of millions of other idiots.
Was he/she an idiot too for buying the ticket?

>>138884835
i dont think ive ever seen somebody trying that hard to look intelligent in a thread before. stfu faggot

>>138884994
A lucky idiot, but money doesn't lasts long with those.

>>138884835
>You need to get off the internet for a time.

And you need to stop lying for just a minute.

>>138884923
Wait. Are you saying memes are real life?

>>138864750
>>138865990
>don't understand probability
>risk their money
it's a fucking dollar. are you guys retarded or something? You give them a dollar and you could possibly win 100s of millions. It seems like you're the ones who don't seem to understand that it's low risk/high reward

>>138885117
I'm not trying. I just am. Stay salty, poorfag.

>>138885239
People make memes, people are real. Meme is just the purest form of reality that is rare. We used to joke a dress up in female clothes for parody, now you have transsexuals who cut balls off.

>>138885172
Prove I'm lying then.

>>138884726
It's funner to play pretend if there is an actual chance. Sorry you can't afford a $2 lottery ticket anon. I hope things improve for you in the future.

>>138883705
Read the thread you ADHD mongoloid. We were referring to an instance where the prize fund is high enough to make the astronomical odds profitable.

>>138864619
I used to feel the same way until I found out my family home's mortgage was paid off through a single lottery win back in the '70s. The odds are ridiculous but people still win all the time.

>>138884923
Why would anyone give a shit if some loser adds to the jackpot with his last dollar? Winning those dollars feels the best.

>>138864619
Think of it like a stupidity tax

>>138885353
maybe your phd faglord you imagined in your head should think about the risk of ruin before telling you to invest money in something with a barely positive expected value with an insane level of variance

>>138884385
No, if the Jackpot is 700 million you have a shot of around 350 to 525 millions depending on where you live.
Ignoring the possibility of someone else winning as well.

Many people who play the lottery don't have very high IQs and play numbers like 123456 or their birthday, not realizing they'll have to divide their winnings with hundreds or thousands of people.

>>138885536
I wonder, do (((they))) pay you the lottery sum right away or you receive it by months? Because you know if you receive it through decades, then money value might change due to inflation or even lottery company go broke. Not that this isn't unheard of.

>>138885462
What I think you're lying about is that you have a friend with a PhD in mathematics who told you to buy lottery tickets.

And since you made the claim, you're the part with the burden of proof, in any logical system of evidence for a position.

>>138885485
That's exactly what it is. All these asshurt anti-lotto faggots are just people who can't afford to put $2 at risk for a chance to improve their own futures. And it's because they are weak.

2 fucking dollars. Think about how pathetic that is.

>>138885807
It's up to the player. Most choose lump sum cash

>>138864619
i buy the ones you scratch sometimes i have gotten lucky and won $500 before

>>138885485
>It's funner to play pretend if there is an actual chance.
yeah just like when a nigger rape your ass in an alley ; its funnier to pretend its a femdom pegging

>>138885919
Non-argument as it is predominately poor people who play the lottery.

>>138885919
you gotta pay little more if you want to increase your chances

>>138885733
any investment is sort of gambling

>>138885730
Oh shit, I ruined $2 dollars.

You really need to try harder.

I know a PHD in Math that sits in his moms basement most days drawing spirals and not practicing daily hygiene. Having a PHD in Math means fuck all.

>>138886085
Im pretty wealthy and I play it, whats your problem? mind your business

>>138864619

>being this poorfag who cannot afford a 2 dollar ticket.

>>138886136
lol you only gambled 2$ on something you think is positive ? then why are you trying to be a smartass ? gtfo broke loser

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>>138864619
>parents gamble on online casino
>their heads are glued to their computer screens and phone screens
>lose all their money
>then complain that they can't afford nice things and have to work harder
>whine that they're not happy when they don't have money
>finally get more money from paycheck
>put it right back into the casino again
>the cycle continues
>always get the evil eye at the dinner table or some childish needling when I tell them to just stop
>getting to the point where I'm just gonna call 1-800-GAMBLER and get help
>I just want my folks to be happy in their golden years
Are online casinos preying on the elderly & weary, or do people just get stupider & less self-aware as they age? Help me /pol/, I legit can't figure this out.

>>138886226
this
i make a lot € and I piss like 100 euros a month on lottery and crypto currencies
no fucks given

>>138886212
Go look up predominately in the dictionary

>>138885733
>Many people who play the lottery don't have very high IQs

Sucks for them. I have a high IQ and I play whenever the jackpot exceeds the odds of winning.

Stupid people are not my problem.

>>138885485
>>138885919
Everyone can afford $2, it's just dummies like you who waste it in this manner

invested, the total amount you waste with this mindset would probably add up to tens of thousands of dollars, but you're too dumb to see that

>envy (all coworkes buy it, im not gona be the idiot that dont)
> wanabe rich // not pour to aford a 2$ ticket.
> illusion of richness
wana gamble your money dont buy loto ticket invert on crazy things. (example bitcoins in his start)

>>138886332
who cares?

>>138886212
His problem is he's a fucking commie. You can't fix stupid.

>>138864619
It's a tax on the dyscalculic.

>>138875036
The reason your country is so shitty is you use a comma for decimal point and a period for grouping thousands.

>>138886367
the only way to make money in 2017 is cryptocurrencies

all other investments like Real Estate or Stocks are boomer SCAMS

>>138885167
yes, especially those starting with the first irreparable mistake: telling it to their friends and family.

>>138886443
The guy who replied

If you buy daily loto tickets or are spending hundreds a year you're doing it wrong.

>>138886632
okay commie

>>138886136
also lets stop pretending OP talked about people who casually spend 2$ every week with their friends at the job every. week He's obviously talking about the kind of people who clog the line at the grocery store because theyre busy buying all kind of tickets

retards pretending that people only buy 2$ worth of ticket a month or something lmao.

>SO WHAT BRO ITS ONLY 2$ ARE YOU A GOMMUNIST

kill yourself

>>138864619
Lol well there's an idiot in Massachusetts that just got $400 mil after taxes

>>138886771
Communism is paying welfare to stupid poor idiots who waste it on the lottery

>>138886260
Seriously, dude. We're talking about $2 here. A pack of smokes you voluntarily destroy your own lungs with costs more. You probably spend more to clean you asshole everyday. Unless of course, your asshole is fucking disgusting.

>>138886407
>example bitcoins in his start
Well did you invest at the start? Pretty easy to spot good stock from the past, pretty hard to do it in the moment. There's a lot of cheap stock around you, some of it surely will be worth millions eventually. You don't know which though

>>138885485
>>138885919
these

I wonder if Jews play lotto or cannot bear to give away 2 dollars without the certainty to win some money nack.

>>138886880
our taxes are low you retard, go to germany or france if you wanna know what it means to have your taxes taken away for welfare

>>138886506
>implying Commies didn't had lottery
http://www.loterija.si/LOTERIJA,,o_podjetju,loterija_slovenije_v_casu.htm
Commies couldn't take your house, since such gambling didn't exist. Capitalists many times take your house when you gamble.

>>138864619
It's because E[X]<0 where X is a random variable representing (prize earned)-(cost of playing) and E[•] is the expectation operator, and stupid people have no grasp of statistics.

>>138886813
You seem like a commie. Do you think the grocery store belongs to you?

>>138886894
moving the goalpost top kek. no, we're not. we're talking about ''why only idiots buy ticket''. then YOU go on an autistic rant LOL BRO ITS ONLY 2$ PER MONTH ITS NOTHING LOLOLOL YEAH ITS DUMB BUT ITS ONLY 2$ ARE YOU A COMMUNIST ?

HAVE I TOLD YOU THAT TIME IT WAS 2$ AND THE PRIZE WAS 700MIL ? OWNED LOL

buying lottery is an idiotic thing to do just like buring a piece of toilet paper is stupid. no one talks about 2$ ruining people and anyway chances are OP referred to mass buyers no casual faggot you invert 2$ every full moon

>>138864619
>Only idiots buy lottery tickets. Why?
idiots tend to be overwhelmingly positive

>>138886894
That's literally the Jewish scheme behind micropayments.

>lol it's just $1 for this weapon skin/gems/game money what are you a poorfag?

Yes because it's always just ONE ticket and ONE skin as we all know

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>mfw niggers always win hundreds of millions of dollars and end up going broke within a year or two
>mfw some niggress won TWICE and still went bankrupt

>>138878559
A lot of people spend hundreds on lottery a week

>>138886268
Show the David choe blackjack

>>138886983
The top tax rate is 42% and our unemployment benefits are almost as high as the minimum wage.

The system favors retards who stay at home and play lotto instead of the guy who's willing to work shitty jobs and save up what little he can to better himself.

>>138887152
what the fuck nigger ? youre even dumber than i thought

>>138878559
>if you criticize someone's poor decisions you're butthurt
OK.

>>138887800
If you say so. Though I suspect I'm simply not as poor as you.

>>138866211
project more please

>>138887413
Amazing,

>>138888008
>i-i-ive more money
losing the argument i see ? its ok we all lost arguments before

>>138887759
Tax on salaries is very fucking low
Begium or germany, they take half of your salary away.
You are a spoiled brat arent you?
>our unemployment benefits are almost as high as the minimum wage.
What are you talking about?
Welfare is like 1300 tops. Our Minimum wage is 2000 almost.
Good luck trying to live on welfare

dude HE SPENT $5 ON A RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY
like LMAO
hes so reardred...
he could've had one thousand dollars if he had saved that 5 dollars for... 200 weeks.......
haha

>>138887216
I've already articulated why it is PERFECTLY RATIONAL to buy a lottery ticket under certain circumstances earlier in this thread.

It's not my fault you are mathematically illeterate.

>>138864619
Economic reason, nearly infinite utility payoff for infinitesimally small cost. People comparing it in pure dollar terms are another form of idiot.

For the average person, a dollar a day is a trivial cost that would likely not matter much. What they buy is a chance that might dramatically alter their lives versus a guarantee that they'll live the same life they always had a few dollars richer. The utility change is not well-indicated by a dollar model due to the extreme scale. Transforming from a wageslave to a multimillionaire has far more repercussions on a person's life then some more spending money.

>>138864750
>>138883940
I always bet on the Hot Numbers in roulette, works every time.

>>138884835
Probability doesn't work with the lottery the way you seem to think it does, you're thinking of scratch cards you fucking oaf. How many millions has the goy with the PhD made you, faggot? "B-b-b-b-but we're getting close! Just two more dollars!". Honestly I fucking hate stupid people like you and the, likely non-existent, "expert" you're talking about.

>Probability can be measured
>In lottery draws

Just fucking kill me. I can't live on a planet with such fucking retards. Do you even know what the gambler's fallacy is? If you flipped a coin 10 times and it landed heads up all 10 times, would you immediately lump everything you own on the next flip being tails because "it's due"? Fucking idiot.

>Measuring probability
>Lottery draw

If I was in America I would punch you in your stupid fat fucking face. Dickhead.

>>138888407
nice job ignoring the main point of my post. mate im a professional gambler i know more about gambling than you. why dont you ask your imaginary math friend if its EV+ to kill yourself under the circumstance of that embarassment you brought to this thread

>>138878559
I preffer to buy other stuff with those two dollars

>>138879089
> too poor to spend 2 dollars

I only buy $2 dollar powerball tickets, hey maybe i get lucky its 2 bucks. I rarely buy scratch offs, but last time I bought one i actually won 100 bucks desu. But I agree with the other anon said, spending more than $20 on pball tickets is retarded. The guy who won 758m jackpot last night spent 2 bucks.

But of course that's what (((they))) want you to play

>>138864619
I'll buy one $2 lottery ticket a week. It's not expensive and all the money raised by the lottery in my state gets added to the state's education budget as extra funding for upgrading facilities and shit.

Now if you're blowing hundreds of dollars a month on lotto tickets - yeah you're a fucking moron.

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what a moron

>>138865803
they probably just have nothing better to do

>>138888838
yeah what a RETARD, if she had put that $5 into investing she could've had like.. two hundred bucks in ten years.

>>138888838
>(((Wanczyk)))

>>138879089
> oy vey muh 2 shekels
found the jew

>>138888790
>>138888786

>expensive and all the money raised by the lottery in my state gets added to the state's education budget as extra
Also this.

It is a voluntary tax. Nothing wrong with occasionally getting a scratch off where there is a good chance you can double your money and it is fun. Buying tons of Powerball tickets and constant scratch off are a tax on the mentally deficient

>>138864750
It's a limited loss for a possibly unlimited gain, in statistics it's called positive black swan.

>>138888327
So your argument for saying we have low taxes is "Look at those few countries that have some of the highest taxes in the world"? Internationally speaking we have somewhat high taxes (for individuals, not companies). Heck, all of Eastern Europe has lower taxes as well.

The difference between welfare and minimum wage is only a few hundred euros after taxes. So really, you're working 40 hours a week for a few hundred euros. Many do the math and choose not do.

Also you still haven't explained why anyone's taxes should go to someone's welfare who uses that money to gamble. They obviously don't need it if they can afford to gamble.

>>138882924
>>138883705

You fags still aren't getting it. The lottery is literally the only 'investment' where the risk and potential return are precisely quantifiable.

There is nothing else you can 'invest' money in where the odds of success are so explicitly exposed to you beforehand.

Whenever I ask people who gamble they are like; ITS JUST FOR THE THRILL, I KNOW IM NOT GONNA WIN ANYTHING. But I can't help but thinking it doesn't make sense, if you want thrill there's so much other things you can do. Don't they deep down do it because they think they will win?

>>138889354
It used to be people played more for fun and it was easier to win also, since they didn't switch balls around, so you could calculate a little. Now they have all those lotto magazines how to win, but that's getting pointless. People who play for greed and gamble their houses are just stupid.

>>138888425
Just put that dollar into penny stocks for a more realistic chance to become rich

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>750m spread over 30 years
>480m immediately

I'm no /biz/ but the tax cut for lump sum is fucking ridiculous. Which would you pick really? I understand that currency loses its value over time but which would be more worth it?

>>138864619

I found this out when I loaded up a powerball simulator and let it run for 24/7 trying to win, when I woke up I believe it was like 37,000 years of playing every week and I had still yet to win.

>>138888838
>53 years old
>adult children
>already retired
>wins $700m

Life sure is fair boys

>>138864619
can't win if you don't play bud

>>138888838
Should she start fearing for her life?

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>>138889908
Neither. Tick, tock, economy is broke, won't be long now before it happens.

>>138889908
You always take the cash option and invest. Ask any previous winner in Illinois.

>>138890223
I would definitely go to steal to her house if she moved close to mine.

>>138889908
Take the cash, buy a FUCKLOAD of gold and silver as physical assets, then bank the rest in a decent foreign interest account like channel islands or Luxembourg, it's not like you can spend it all anyway

>>138889354
It's not even a tax. Taxation implies coercion.

>>138864619
Only the autistic fail to grasp the appeal of buying a lotto ticket. Only the autistic believe people buy lottery tickets because "its a good idea". Its fun to buy a scratcher/ticket once in a while for the thrill of what if. Some people like a nice low cost gamble once in a while for the funzies.

Heres how this went down: Someone pointed out how buying lottery tickets wasn't worth it and showed morons buying too many tickets too frequently and mocked them. Then moronic reddit tier humans jumped on the bandwagon and believe lottery tickets as a whole are bad.

Its like atheism. They honestly think it matters at all that the bible is incredibly unlikely to be true. They can't comprehend how religion and faith can positively effect things and maintain a cultures quality (Except for the bastardization that is the muslim faith, its purely a corruption of faith for the benefit of some violent pedophile) .


TL;DR: People buy them for the fun of gambling. Noone is buying these as an investment but autistics certainly can't comprehend that and must sperg out at the thought of someone doing something stupid. Embarrassing really.

>>138864619

Here is the redpill for all the newfags:

Any gambling based entirely on luck is R selected insectoid faggotry. The only red-pilled gambling is K selected skill-based gambling where genetics plays a significant part. Poker is a good example.

>>138890819
Add land to this list, as underdeveloped as you can get

>>138891056
>genetics plays a significant part
You lost me there.

>>138891160

>what is psychologically out-witting the opponent

Obviously card games are always going to involve luck though.

>>138891316
>genetics
>outwitting others
I get your point but you clearly don't understand the word you used.

>>138889854
Not to the point for being set for life. The chances are somewhat higher compared to a lotto ticket, but the payoff is more subdued.

Say you buy 10000 of a triple zero stock for a dollar.

It somehow magically goes up a million fold to 100 dollars. You now have a million dollars worth of stock. While it can buy a house, it's not going to cover the rest of your years.

>>138891522

Okay so I mean skill-based gambling. Anything involving manual physical or intellectual skills. The person with the best genetics will generally do the best and be able to win the most.

I'd almost bet some of the best poker players are highly intelligent and way above average intelligence.