STOCK MARKET WATCH THREAD

>>138857249
It wont crash until the midterms depending on whether or not Trump plays ball with the kikes. (Hint: He has and will continue to do so)

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Look at the DB tumble since NYSE opened

>>138857429
Did you miss all those threads last night that Wall Street banks said a downturn is coming?

The market is almost entirely based on feeling right now, and if it doesn't feel like things are good it's gonna crash hard.

>>138857699
It's a threat, the same threat they've been making since before Trump got elected.
>The markets will crash if Trump doesnt fire bannon!
>trump fires bannon
>Markets surge

>>138857806
The markets had it's worse week in months, granted it still wasn't that bad all things considered, last week when Bannon left.

you kikes are worthless and have no idea how shit works. market might correct a few % but earnings are increasing = higher market.

>>138858000
Exactly, the markets fear the fed and the fed is the gun that the kikes hold to the head of the government. Until Trump audits the fed and takes them on they will continue to run his presidency.

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Quick rundown on the market front.

>>138858433
Trump will NEVER dare to audit the Fed, or even publicly suggest it from the presidential office.

That's synonym to bullet to the head in America.

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>the market will collapse when antifa and fascists are as organized and popular as they've ever been

Glorious

>>138858628
Hate to agree with the Soros employee here, but that's absolutely true.
There will never be a President who will audit the fed.

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>>138858929
The only ingredient missing from Wiemar is economic hardship.

>>138857249
I've seen this thread a thousand times over the years
Nothing ever happens
But I really wish it did happen

>>138857699
>wallstreet says _____

Tell me, who is "wallstreet"?

Or did you mean some journalist somewhere who is talking about wallstreet on their blogpost as if it's a person because they heard from one of their friends that is an investor themselves?

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>>138857249

screencap this post

* Interest rates at historic lows
* The exponential nature of technological advancements
* Record levels of cash on the sidelines
* The fear of "missing out"

This is a recipe for buying panic, and it's going to play out in a huge melt-up. There will be a mania not seen since the NASDAQ bubble. As the market continues to rise, people will be afraid they've missed their opportunity, and it will all feed on itself. that will end with a crash of course, but not before we hit DOW 40,000. It will play out over the next few years, position yourself accordingly.

>>138857699
They always say that. It allows for plausible deniability when a crash eventually does come. Their memos will warn you to perhaps keep 20% of cash out of the market, not dump your portfolio.

>>138860229
DOW 40,000 HAH wow HAHAHAHAHAHA

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>people think buying now, at ATHs, is still a good idea

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>>138860229
>>138860702

Also, for the first time in history, central banks are starting to buy equities. Conveniently, these central banks create their own currency, so they are price-insensitive.

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>>138860729

just heard on the radio the market was up today

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>>138860831
>linear chart instead of exponential when graphing market prices over time

>>138861034
That's a median-price-to-revenue chart not a chart of the prices.

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>>138860831

learn wtf his index means... its a tool just like Williams %, Scholastics, MAs, Ichimokues..

God you people are dumbfucks

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>>138861110
It's even more than that now. Only thing keeping this market propped up is CB intervention.

>>138861088
oops you're right, i looked too quickly. the chart doesn't take into account other factors like the inflation of the day or interest rates you posted here. >>138861110

these are not ordinary times. DOW 40000

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>>138861283
why should we trust you? seems like quite a limb to go out on. will there be periodic corrections (back to 15K for example) before it rockets higher?

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>>138861451
Also don't listen to the outright lie peddled by suits on mainstream financial media that there is "record cash on the sidelines" waiting to pour into this market. It's just complete bs.

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>>138861648

>>138860807
That's not what the US fed is going to do. The fed wants to reduce its balance sheet. The most likely way is to let their purchased bonds mature since about $1.4t of the $2.5t in purchased bonds have a maturity of 5 years. Are you proposing that they're going aggressively sell bonds, but to offset market volatility, they will purchase US equities?

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>>138861540
>why should we trust you?
You shouldn't follow blind advice from anyone.

>seems like quite a limb to go out on.
I thought that's how people made big money though? Making bets when there is panic and "blood in the water". The market intends to put the maximum amount of participants through the maximum amount of pain. I believe that pain is higher prices.

>will there be periodic corrections (back to 15K for example) before it rockets higher?
That's impossible to know.

>>138861908
interesting, you sound legit

>>138861768
The Fed will manage maybe a couple of months of letting around $10bn of bonds on their b/s mature before there is a market panic which shifts them back towards an easing forward guidance - which would be their 9th flip-flop since May 2013 by the way.

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>>138861768
I think it's mostly foreign central banks, but the Fed will step in if necessary. I certainly don't want to bet against our money masters.

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As long I don't get in debt like Amerifats and have to work 2-3 jobs to support myself I'm fine with the economy.

>>138862092
Wouldn't they want to crash the economy and blame it on Trump?

>>138861823
>>138861702

Cash levels are more important than most people realize. Since most of the money in the market is managed by big guys trading on margin and with derivatives, a margin call is a real possibility.

A lot of people don't know how the cash repo markets were a big part of the issue in the last market crash in '07 - '08.

>>138862092
>if we can't buy stocks and corporate bonds in the future everything will crash and burn

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

>>138862254
Unlikely in my opinion. Politics is a dog and pony show more than anything, in the end it is in everyones best interest to have a strong economy, and both sides of the isle will do what they can to keep it stable.

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>>138862402
>>138862092

-- Meaning tax payers become the bag holders for corporate fuckwad mal-investment

>>138862497
That's one way to look at it. But large purchase programs often work in everyone's favor. For example, tax payers have made money on the bank "bailouts" from TARP.

Either way, if you know the regular tax payer is going to be forced to bail out your investments, maybe you should put a little more into that index fund.

Don't even try to pretend like a crash wouldn't be a bolt from beyond. I would rather have quick pain instead of decades of pain. Let it collapse already ffs.

Jesus Christ down 0.11% is this what it was like in '28?

>>138863471

You know I don't know why they don't go and look back during those years, did people know it was coming? What was going on in America right before the great depression? Were they pointing their fingers at each other? Blaming one another? Was it out of no where? There has to be some documentation. Why can't we look and try to see if there is anything similar to what is going on now. Basically the anatomy of a depression.

>>138857249
>-0.21%
OH SHIT ITS HABBB

>>138863683
Just before the Great Depression was the Roaring 20s. Everyone was partying.

Market crash? Good. Means my crypto is about to Moon

>>138858603
Some financial journalists want to earn money by getting other people to short their stocks. So that they can earn money on fools selling or shorting stocks.

Some idiots believe that financial analysts can see into the future and so they sell or short stocks. It's an old trick... say "The market is going to crash!" and make people sell off their stocks so you can buy them cheaply. Wall street have done that once every month for over 100 years.

>>138864023
Crypto is a bubble, it will crash alongside the market.

>>138861341
is this only in the us?
so basically central banks are buying the US companies?

replace government ownership with central banks ownership of the means of production

>>138864172
>so basically central banks are buying the US companies?
>>138862092

>>138864127
yeah, no lol
I remember Cyprus

>>138864247
>>138864172
fuck, meant to point here (>>138860807) instead

>>138863683
Telling people about a crash is the same as telling them that one say the sun will devour the earth. In their mind, it's so far off and abstract rhat it's just you speaking nonsense so it makes them uncomfortable. It's the same as saying that we'll be over the Earth's sustainable carrying capacity, if we aren't already, by 2050.

>>138864127
>BTC $100
>Crypto is a bubble
>Crash to $20
>See
>BTC $500
>Crypto is a bubble
>Crash to $200
>See
>BTC $1000
>Crypto is a bubble
>Crash to $500
>See
>BTC $3000
>Crypto is a bubble
>Crash to $2000
>See
>BTC $4200
>Crypto is a bubble
>???
Nocoiner double niggers will never learn.

>>138864172
No this is a worldwide phenomenon, CBs in all major countries have been panic buying bonds, mortgage backed securities, ETFs and even stocks in some cases (SNB being the most notable) ever since 2008 in order to keep the system propped up a little while longer.

>>138864407
they werent expecting govt agencies like the cia or traffickers, russia propaganda payoffs, chinese govt bribe money, even EU politician payoffs to prop it up

>>138864407
lad BTC was born in 2009. The only reason it crashed that one time was because of the Mt Gox thing. Otherwise I'd keep growing and correcting and be at 8000$ or more by now.

And it's just speculation that cryptos will become more than just drug money in the future. Speculation (bubble)

>>138864407
Just because the bubble got bigger doesn't mean it's not a bubble. The US stock market (along with many others) has been in a bubble for a number of years now too.

People buying into dotcom stocks back in 1999 had a similar mindset to those buying cryptos today, they get very defensive about the ones they own and claim that even if the market in general is in a bubble their portfolio in particular is not. Cryptocurrencies are in a big bubble and a lot of people are going to lose a shit ton of money when it pops, whilst the "whales" will make a shit ton just before the crash; same thing happens in every bubble, this time will be no different.

>>138864407
and I forgot the most important point. What has been going on since 2009? Extra money to "invest" with for some reason? hmmmm

>>138864694
See ethereum. There's value in these other coins

>>138857249
It's Chinese Ghost Month, anon. It is to be expected.

>>138864407
pets.com $1
pets.com is a bubble
pets.com $10
pets.com is a bubble
pets.com $100
pets.com is a bubble
pets.com $1000
pets.com is a bubble

smoke my doge dick grandma go back ot yahoo!

Are you guys serious? The market just opened, it will get significant gains.

>>138864829
>Buy eth for 500 dollars
>Now worth 16k
Bubble or not the joke is on you nocoiner

>>138864797
No, right now it's barely used for anything other than buying coins. But it MIGHT have some other value in the future.

>>138857699
KEK!!!
>H-hey guys, the Jew bankers are giving us advanced warning to save us
>Retard

>>138864912
You've been right so far, can't deny you that. Doesn't mean people getting in now will also be right

>>138864896
>significant gains.
Maybe for a few more weeks. The crash is coming very soon. It's going to be glorious seeing boomers lose their ass.

>>138864127
It will crash even worse because it has no use.

>>138864955
You could make the same argument against the early internet. Imagine being able to buy equity in the internet back in the early 90s.
It's speculation but there is value. All investments are speculation and not a guarantee.

>>138865051
Very true. When the stock market crashes I'll be buying up shares at incredibly low p/e ratios but I won't be buying up any cryptocurrencies when they go back to sub-$10 prices.

>>138865302
Crypto is inversely related to the strength of the market. You'd want to be holding crypto before a crash and use that profit to buy some blue Chip at a low rate for stability.

>>138865444
trips of truth

But I'm not sure if this holds up. Its been going up along side the market. It might be an asset bubble just like real estate and stocks

>>138865444
Nope, I'm never going to get into the crypto-currency game. It's still mostly a joke anyway with a paltry $150bn total market cap.

Anyway, this thread is about the stock market, fuck cryptos. You crypto-nutters ruined a whole board (/biz/) with this shit, go back there.

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I've been positioning myself for this crash for awhile now and yet a precise date is impossible to know

Please /pol/ I stand to make a Rothschild-Waterloo esque fortune here

please meme the crash into reality and I'll buy this fucking website and range ban all Canadian ips I swear on my holdings

>>138865772
what do you have? DOG?

>>138858972
hmm our audit shows you just create this shit out of thin air in a collusion with others and have syphoned the entire world's wealth to yourselves. shocker.

>>138865759
The point of /biz/ was for crypto talks. It's your choice dude. See you at 10k btc

>>138865983
/biz/ didn't use to be all about cryptos, there was typically just a single general on them back a few years ago. Now it's just the entire board, I don't even go there anymore.

>>138865878
I've been buying up on a dropping and manipulated precious metals market, both physical metal and mining companies.

I've even managed to turn a profit in this shithole market, but when the fiat currency fails and precious metals fly it'll make my profits now look like nothing

>>138857699

link????????????

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>>138864075
Thanks, pal.

>>138864316
>>138863963

ty anons for the reply.

I'm kind of confused though, if there is going to be a recession, or whatever you wanna call it, a down turn, how is it not only 1 thing now? For example

https://www.thestar.com/business/2017/08/23/in-event-of-another-downturn-record-household-debt-would-add-pressure-to-credit-cards.html

There are talks of housing bubble again in Canada, and even here in the states, granted not as bad as the one before (thats what they say), but now it has to do with credit cards, the retail apocalypse that is coming, and student loans.

So is it okay to say now that if it happens next time, that all of this will be involved and not just one thing in particular?

Do you see it happening in the next 3 years? Or is it something that can be held off longer. As you can see im new to this shit, but I really hate how things have become now, making money out of thin air and basically having a monopoly in anything productive.

When does the ultimate happening occur?

>>138865759
tfw you realise you're just as brainwashed about bitcoin as liberals are about trump

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>>138866357

Go to archive and search for DOWNTURN

here are a few from history

>>138797078
>>138770658
>>138774890

>>138866620
>When does the ultimate happening occur?
Less than 12 months. Be prepared for life changing events to occur.

>>138857249
This isnt goinng down until october...

>>138857249
lol I would start worrying once the fed starts normalising that fat balance sheet plus some more rate hikes, until then only the debt ceiling could cause a spook, but they will definately raise it so its unlikely

>>138867254
September 23rd.

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>>138866620
Total US household debt just surpassed the peak of the last decade. Now you'll hear suits on financial media say this is ok because mortgage debt isn't as high as it was back then but you have to realise that home-ownership rates are at a 60 year low.

My prediction is that things will start to unravel noticeably next year or next month if the debt-ceiling shenanigans really kicks off this time.

>>138857249

AHHHH the market is down 8 points!!! NOOOOO!!!!

its only up 80 points on the week...NO!!!!!!!

>>138858000
>The markets had it's worse week in months

by worse you mean being up only 80 points as of this morning?

>all out disaster people starving in the streets is coming!
>here it i.. wait wait, that wasnt it
>see! he.. no wait, that wasnt it really hang on
>I TOLD YOU! HA! all those people taking high interest rate loans for houses! chaos!
>SEE it went down!
>compare it to 6 month
>NO FUCK YOU SHILL

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>>138864407
>>138864912
You can have as much fake money as you want. The trick is being a heartless, insufferable enough douche canoe to be able to trick people into letting you cash out.

And your goal should be to cash out at some point if you're in it for the profit. No reputable company will ever deal with cryptocoin. The only thing backing it is a bunch of deluded poor people desperately chasing the dragon of instant, effortless wealth.

>>138871421
Oh yeah. Cryptocoin is also endorsed by people in poor countries who see it as a great way to siphon funds away from idiots in Western nations.

>>138871421
I sold the few bitcoins I had not too long ago. I probably made a mistake but I made a nice profit so I'm happy. I don't really have faith in BTC so I couldn't allow myself to hold any longer.

>>138872066
Well, the big issue is that so long as idiots are allowed to be idiots, they'll keep raising it until either something unexpected happens or one of the preset, predictable, defined events occurs that kicks it down.

Cryptocoin sounds like a magic money generation machine to a lot of people. It's why $180 video cards are currently selling for $450. Mainly because of Ethereum. The fuckers ruined a business and set an industry back 5 years.

>>138857429
Yeah markets are political. The (((left))) crashes markers before elections to get leftists in.

>>138872066
Did you have to give your social security number to cash out? and do you have to pay tax on the income from BTC?

Wow, it's literally nothing

I started investing in 2010 and the entire time /pol/ said the crash as coming any day now. Good thing I never listened

>>138864797
ETH is literally a scam coin bolt on to btc, it's only purpose has been ICO vaporware. GTFO with that ETH bullshit.
HuffPoo has some insights besides ETH.
DCR will dominate going forward.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/10-top-cryptocurrency-investors-share-their-favorite_us_599bb27de4b0521e90cfb4e9?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

>>138876304
Archived that https://unvis.it/huffingtonpost.com/entry/10-top-cryptocurrency-investors-share-their-favorite_us_599bb27de4b0521e90cfb4e9?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

>>138876304
>DCR
Where does one purchase this?

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>>138857249
Heavenly Father,
Your word is witness to the downtrodden. Why should the heathen say "We prosper, while the sons of the Cross languish"? Bring the unjust to heel, and make the rich man to see the vanity of his wealth. Make the powerful remember that You alone, o God, are Sovereign. Burn us, that we might rise from the ashes stronger, and righteous. We ask this of You, o LORD, for No one is god but You, O Father, and there is no God but You, and in Your Name alone we pray.
Amen.

>>138876779
God doesn't answer prayers, anon

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>>138876718
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-DCR

>>138876907
It can't hurt.

>>138857249
all my money is moved to bonds, are they safe?

>>138866556
why is this webm making me laugh ?

>>138876779
Fuck you and your weak God with glory holes.

>>138877720

>>138877777

>>138877720
Edgy.

>>138877307
Fuck no. Are you kidding?
No one is buying US bonds outside of the US, it's all being purchased internally by the deep state. This market scenario is literally the perfect storm against the $ and the Federal Reserve Scam.

>>138857249

A selloff of stocks has no effect on anything for most people besides 401ks being wrecked a little.

Stocks are way overvalued (except for fucking Ford. Cost me a good grand making that bet.). A sell off would be great for a chance to actually buy in.

>>138878306
The Deep state is propping up the markets with the help of the ESF (Exchange stabilization fund)
Watch this series to learn more. You don't know shit about the markets unless you understand the ESF.
https://youtu.be/2ssrcD5GdPQ