[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

Fascism Debate!

This is a red board which means that it's strictly for adults (Not Safe For Work content only). If you see any illegal content, please report it.

Thread replies: 37
Thread images: 9

File: fvf.png (57KB, 200x166px) Image search: [Google]
fvf.png
57KB, 200x166px
This one really blew my mind. Is this what natsocs actually believe? The very question of whether or not someone "deserves" the circumstances into which they are born into is absurd in an of itself.

This caller sounds EXACTLY like a communist, and his arguments are not new or unique from communists. Outside of cases of random luck, people who go from poverty to success are successful for a good reason. If someone climbs their way out of poverty that generally says something about the type of person they are and thus the type of children they would raise. So GENERALLY SPEAKING children inherit the merit of their parents, and thus in some sense deserve the circumstances they were born into. Even if you don't want to say they deserve it, then at the very least they are by definition most likely going to be the ones who would be most suited to preserving and managing the wealth their parents created. No one ever said an economically free society is going to result in a utopia, but trying to play god by redistributing wealth (either directly or indirectly through nationalization of various kinds of institutions, services, & resources) will only ever result in making things worse for everyone.

It's not really about what people deserve, more about whether or not they are likely to (on average) put the resources they were born into to good use. As culturally decayed as western society is, it's still true that on average successful people raise better children, you just don't hear about it as much because it doesn't suit the pro-wealth redistribution narrative.
>>
Fuck you I worked my ass off to go to college and get out of poverty yet I have no money yet and still live with mom. Proof your capitalism rags to riches system is pure bullshit and we need a system like fascism to ensure hard workers are taken care of.
>>
>>138809945
What did you study in college?
>>
File: IMG_1496.jpg (80KB, 627x800px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_1496.jpg
80KB, 627x800px
>>138809756
Tl;dr
>>
>>138809756
Trump called /pol/ terrorists last night.

You're a terrorist now on a terroist board.

But ANTIFA isn't. They are protesting terror.
>>
>>138810212
Business and History
>>
>>138810350
Have you gotten a job yet? And how long have you been out of college? If it was recent, you need patience.
>>
>>138809756
Whether left wing or right wing, collectivists are SJWs.
>>
>>138809945
>wah wah wah the world owes me
The world doesn't owe you jackshit
>>
>>138810546
Islam is a religious collective. Are they SJWs?
>>
>>138810736
>you drew Muhammad, you offended me. Time to die infidel
Gee I don't know
>>
>>138810916
Sounds more like a real warrior desu
>>
>>138809945
Make better decisions next time. Sounds like you had ample opportunity to make them. Should have gotten internships and connections while in college, that's what business is about. Don't worry, its not over yet, you still have time, you'll just be a few years behind.
>>
>>138810520
3 months
>>
>>138810350
lmao
>>
>>138811226
Frustrating to be sure. Landing my first job was the hardest. I think it took me 9 months. Good luck, Anon. I know that's not what you want to hear right now.
>>
File: 1502801310888.jpg (87KB, 960x463px) Image search: [Google]
1502801310888.jpg
87KB, 960x463px
>>138809756
who gives a shit about like, countries and national well-being and shit, when you can brainwash preteen kids with advertising and sell them liquid sugar that you have made in china because you offshored your country's entire production industry to save a few bucks

lolbertarianism is the ultimate rational belief system and my perfect brand of capitalism has never been tried
>>
File: 1289380293.jpg (52KB, 600x420px) Image search: [Google]
1289380293.jpg
52KB, 600x420px
>>138810350
>Business and History
>>
>>138809756
Fascism is a dogshit hasbeen ideology. Monarchy is the most superior form of government.
>>
File: 1503540136709.jpg (113KB, 306x410px) Image search: [Google]
1503540136709.jpg
113KB, 306x410px
You nazis cant hide from us.
>>
>>138809756
Education is about the future of your nation, not your child. We as a collective should desire the most intelligent and qualified youth are securing the most important positions of society. All the parents hard work will pay off for any child, low IQ or not, by supplying a comfy life with plenty of money. Besides, if society as a whole is going in the Fascist direction, your kid will probably be intelligent enough for education if you stick to eugenics (a common fascist endeavor).
>>
File: 1496606559554.gif (745KB, 382x450px) Image search: [Google]
1496606559554.gif
745KB, 382x450px
> Wtf these arguments for based fascism sound just like socialist drivel

Really activates the almonds

https://youtu.be/WHkW9f0WZX0
>>
File: friedrich-hayek.jpg (40KB, 520x510px) Image search: [Google]
friedrich-hayek.jpg
40KB, 520x510px
>>138809756
no way OP, I can't believe collectivist ideologies have common points
>>
File: 1502662343820.jpg (154KB, 750x901px) Image search: [Google]
1502662343820.jpg
154KB, 750x901px
>>138816437
lolbertarians are actually so far up their own ass they forget they were raised by families and live in countries
>>
>>138814494
She looks like a Joo tranny
>>
>>138817518
I won't forget I never asked them to be there so fuck em
>>
My latest theory: your success is based on PTAL:
Privilege (what you were born with)
Training (how well you were raised/trained/educated)
Ability (natural-born talent)
Luck

You get a score from 1 to 7 for each of these.
Only 1% of people get a 7,
The next 2% get a 6.
The next 4% get a 5.
The next 8% get a 4.
The next 16% get a 3.
The next 32% get a 2.
The remaining 37% get a 1.

If your scores add up to 10 or greater, then you will have a fairlly good life.

So if you're born into top 1% privilege, you're guaranteed to have at least a fairly good life. You might not have as nice a life as your parents, but that's OK.
Similarly if you have top 1% training, top 1% innate ability, or you are extremely lucky.

Most of us can muddle through to a nice life with scores of like 2-3 on everything.

But some poor schmucks have 1-2 on everything and are just not going to make it.
>>
>>138819312
Typical immigrant profile:
Privilege 1
Training 1
Ability 5
Luck 1
Won't have a really great life. But:

Typical profile of children of immigrants:
Privilege 2
Training 5
Ability 3
Luck 1
They're going to do just fine.
>>
>>138819811
Typical profile of rich bastard:
Privilege 5
Training 3
Ability 4
Luck 1
Got where they are with a healthy boost from their parents, but have some ability too.

Typical profile of children of rich bastards:
Privilege 7
Training 4
Ability varies widely
Luck 1
If you're a kid of a rich bastard, you're guaranteed to do OK; how well you do more than that is based on your ability.
>>
>>138820154
Typical profile of elite athlete or singer/rapper:
Privilege 1
Training 2
Ability 7
Luck 4
You can't get anywhere in those industries without some ability, but you also need a lot of luck.
>>
>>138820316

Does all this arbitrary nonsense have a point?
>>
>>138820316
Typical profile of someone born in the ghetto:
Privilege 1
Training 1
Ability 1-3 (typical)
Luck 1-3 (typical)
Sorry Charlie.
>>
>>138820413
Yeah, that the bullshit about "oh, your income is based on your ability" is basically fantasies made up by people who are comfortable and want to believe that it's because of their innate ability.
>>
>>138809756
>yeah dude social services and health care are totally retaled to personnal freedoms, successes and merit.

please explain to me how it's fine to have a medical care lobby and lobbies intent on creating niche clientelle like transgendered people or mentally ill people (psychology and anti-depressants, social assistance, pharmaceuticals and surgeons for trans). There's no way it's a good thing to leave that sutff to people that only want a good profit or a carreer basically leeching on the ill.
>>
>>138809945
>Fuck you I worked my ass off to go to college and get out of poverty yet I have no money yet and still live with mom.
Then maybe you're just not talented enough.
>>
>>138809945
Seems like you need to acquire more money friend, then your problems will be solved. Have you thought of earning more money? It would really help if you got some money.
>>
>>138817518
> raised by families and live in countries
You cunts love your false equivalancies don't ya?
Thread posts: 37
Thread images: 9


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.