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The drug war is officially over.

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Why?
Ill tell you why. Mexicans are manufacturing carfentanyl, which is 3,300 times stronger than heroin. So if a small lab in the mountains of mexico has some decent lab equipment, they can make a kilogram of carfentanyl, which has a value equivalent of 3,300 kg of heroin. At a street value of 100k per kg, thats 330 million dollars worth. From ONE cook. 330,000,000.00$
Drug war= over, you pig faggots.
Oh, and Hitlers favorite drug was morphine, which is neuropharmacologically the same as heroin. The more ya know!
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I should start making drugs. I'll charge more and put made in the USA on them
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Literally what is your argument OP
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>>138766464
lol drug war will be over because of all the junkies are going to start dying from overdose
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>>138766464
Can anyone post an easy "how to" guide to make fentanyl?
If Mexicans can do it, I'm sure I can figure it out and sell in my town.
I'll make so much money, I'll finally be able to afford becoming a woman, and have my penis inverted into myself, and my balls removed.
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>>138766464
You're right this will lower drug trade because the heroin users will all OD
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>>138766598
Enjoy dat FBI visit
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>buy Mexican fentanyl
>Get to choose what flavor
>Strawberry, pineapple, or chili and lime
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not everyone wants heroin though
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>>138766930
if they would stop reviving all them all, overdoses from fentanyl(+laced heroin) have broken records. But they keep reviving them for some reason...
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>>138766464
that would only fuel the drug trade more you dumbass
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>>138766464
Apparently 1-2 kilos is enough to kill everyone in Canada.
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>>138766464
>3,300 times stronger than heroin.

kek, sign me up.
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>>138767332
>kill everyone in Canada
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>>138766803
>take a container
>half fill it with hydrochloric acid
>fill the other half with sodium hypochlorite
>it will start bubbling
>now insert a drinking straw on it
>blow into the mix to add carbon dioxide

there you go
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>>138766464
If this shit was easy to make it wouldn't carry such a high price tag. If any fucking retard could make it, the prices would be much lower to compensate.
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>>138767190
OP's point is that its virtually impossible to enforce policy when a substance is so potent that a tiny amount could kill thousands of people.
One tiny vial up Pedro's pooper could get an entire town to OD. They can't stop this from flooding in to the country.
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>>138766740
>CIA/FBI control opium fields in Afganistan.
>War on drugs is more like war on competition.

Carfentanyl makes heroin outdated. So war on drugs not required.
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>>138767332
To dream, the impossible dream
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>>138766464
incorrect, hitler preferred dhc
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>>138766464
so a more potent drug that will kill junkie retards who don't know how to properly dose. Great way to purge the bottom rung burn outs of society. Let them bring it in I say.
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>>138767624
>If any fucking retard could make it
but they don't

so, it's epxensive
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>>138767600
kek
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fuck yeah cheap drugs
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>>138767600

Kek, classic
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>>138767600
Bullshit I have fat stacks of that shit in my cabinet right now
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>>138766464
I just want to try DMT before I die
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>>138766598
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>>138767332
>needing 1-2 Kg of drugs to kill five people
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>>138766464

>Mexico
>Mexicans

You mean the Chinese?
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When are we going to expand the "war on terror" to Mexico? Literally the only solution to these cartels & the Mexican govt doesn't appear to give a shit about dealing with them.
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The most terrifying drug is /pol/. Redpills are addictive.
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>>138768210
>wanting more mexican rapefugees flooding into your country

build wall first
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>>138767026
Are you scared, little girl?
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>>138766464
Are you retarded? Fentanyl is cheap as fuck. I could walk 3 blocks and easily get some for free.

t.vancouver fag
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>>138767150
Maybe because 90% of them voted for trump, you antifa fag
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>>138766464

The CIA needs to assist or allow several tons of this shit to hit the streets and then sit back and watch the show. Just imagine that bottom five percent of society being wiped clean in the span of a week. Crime would be nearly nonexistent in many of our communities currently drowning in theft and violence.
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>>138767944
It wont make you a better person or give you a better life but it will give you the most beautiful, most confusing and most amazing experience.

There is sadly no point in explaining or describing it.
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>>138767190
Honestly i would estimate your iq at below 80. Race mixing for you would be marrying up
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invade mexico when?
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>>138768389
>Mexicans flood the country with actual dangerous drugs
>More reason to build the wall
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>>138767150
These people need to be helped, just like the Germans in the 20s and 30s needed to be helped.
If we don't start treating addiction as a medical issue primarily instead of a criminal issue we're going to have a huge chunk of whites die off. We'll drop below the 50% demographic line, and Conservatives will lose virtually all voting power.

Letting your own people die is a horrible thing to do.
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>>138767872
It's literally elephant tranquilizer. At a certain point, there's no reason to cut with shit like this other than to artificially boost sales in the short term. I would hope most dealers realize that.

>>138768210
The Mexican government couldn't deal with them even if they wanted to. The cartels have infiltrated the government to the point of complete submission, and they've grown so powerful that Mexico trying to fight them will just end up with a repeat of the Drug War in 06' to 11' that had more deaths than Afghanistan and Iraq combined. There's no solutions other than >>138767749 (which you can't properly dose with cut supply unless you're a chemist and have a lab ready), decriminalization, or America to stop using opioids, which won't happen because of big pharma.
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>>138768356
and instead of killing you it turns you retarded
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>>138766464
>Hitlers favorite drug was morphine
>implying it wasnt secret nazi proto coke stimmulants
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>>138766464
Opiates are awesome. Prohibition is a failure.
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>>138768910
>the war on drugs was a mistake
>it should have been a war on mexicans
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>Oh, and Hitlers favorite drug was morphine

I thought it was meth.
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>>138767600
I just tried it. These neat looking crystals formed!
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>>138768028
>people
>Canadians

These are not the same thing, anon
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>>138768962
>not blowing germany off the face of the map after ww1, instead letting them live
>start ANOTHER ww 20 odd years later causing 70 million deaths and world wide terror, despair, death

i agree. lethal injections for all
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>>138768210
>can't even get rid of disorganized nigger/centraca drug peddler gangs and addicts in his own country
>thinks they can take out highly organized, wealthy and powerful criminal organizations
Americans are effectively retarded
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>>138767600
based Leandro.
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>>138767600
pretty sure this would make chlorine gas which is very painful to inhale
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>>138767941
Don't, You'll die
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>>138767600
>>take a container
>>half fill it with hydrochloric acid
>>fill the other half with sodium hypochlorite
Can I bring a friend?
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>>138766464
>>138767720
Germans had trouble obtaining opium during the war, hence their invention of methadone
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>>138768542
Came here to say this, OP making up street values
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>>138767944
Buy some then, it's readily available on the darknet.
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>>138767033
Underrated and chegged
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>>138766803
>If Mexicans can do it, I'm sure I can figure it out and sell in my town.
This goy thinks mexicants make drugs. LOL.
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>>138768666
Checked
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>>138767026
Wouldn't that technically be DEA's jurisdiction?
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>>138767749
We should be making drugs laced with poison
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>>138767332
FUND IT.
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>>138768649
>Drug addicts
>Vote
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>>138771208
Heh, they do a shit ton of crystal. The ingredients are chinese, but there's a shit ton of labs.
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>>138767033
chili and lime plz
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>>138768962
>we're going to have a huge chunk of whites die off
lol what a weak, beta race
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>>138769955
Merrica actually values life.

If Stalin took over the US tomorrow, and had the discretion to only kill say 1 innocent per every 10 non innocent, every cunt in Mexico would be deader than a doornob.

Also the DEA would lose their jobs and the UN would throw a fit for 3 days but who the fuck cares.
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>A few hundred micrograms – the weight of a single grain of salt – are enough to trigger heroin-like bliss. But the line between euphoria and fatal overdose is frighteningly thin: An amount the size of two grains of salt can kill a healthy adult.

Jesus. I wonder how many people set to release important information or testify will suddenly become Fentanyl addicts and overdose?
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>>138770589
The cuck
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>>138774190
>What is diluting with impurities?
>A
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>>138774190
It's actually pretty hard to OD, in the true sense.

There is always an aggravating circumstance.

No one has batted an eye at 7 shots to the back of the head or dropping 100lb dumbells all over your own body for 40 minutes straight yet, so why use something more discreet?
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>>138766464
>>138766598
>>138766740
>>138767190
>>138767332

Something like this is what they put in the heroin sometimes at random. Just a little drop and its so potent the person thinks they're getting the normal heroin but they pass out and die before they're done injecting.

some druggie guy told me this, gonna pass this link over to him to update him

this is being used to systematically kill people on the east coast, heroin and oxycontin are pushed heavily in the rural and suburban areas of virginia, penn, etc.
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>>138770250
for you
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"Canada is experiencing start right here at home: No other country in the world consumes more prescription opioids on a per-capita basis, according to a recent United Nations report. The widespread use of prescription opioids is behind the rise of a new class of drug addicts, many of whom are turning to the black market to feed their habit. In British Columbia and Alberta, the two hardest-hit provinces, fatal overdoses linked to fentanyl soared from 42 in 2012 to 418 in 2015.

Neither Ottawa nor the provinces are taking adequate steps to stop doctors from indiscriminately prescribing highly addictive opioids to treat chronic pain – in 2015 alone, doctors wrote enough prescriptions for one in every two Canadians."

One and every two Canadians? Just fuck my country up, senpai. This gets less coverage than one overweight American getting hit by a car.
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>>138766464
You can't distinguish a therapeutic dose and a fatal overdose without proper equipment, which means all this will do is increase overdose deaths.

Fine by me anyway.
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Buy American, Hire American.
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>>138767600
>>138766803
sounds like a wonderdrug, so easy to make, so strong... have so much on hand...
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>>138766464
>Hitler was a drug user
FUCK YEAH!
Only makes me like him more
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good we would all benefit from increased labor scarcity
>thanks drugcucks
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>>138774539
>>138774459

Is it only injected with diluting done at dealer level?
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>>138766464

Yay, more poor whites ODing themselves to make room for immigrants!
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>>138775016
negative, the goal is to improve wages in areas decimated by NAFTA
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>>138770855
how do I safely use the dark net?
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>>138774686
>in 2015 alone, doctors wrote enough prescriptions for one in every two Canadians."
does that mean that someone who takes drugs every day, of a year, has 365 prescriptions so in their figure that 1 person counts as 365?
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>>138769496
I hope you choke on your own vomit
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talk about get rich quick scheme.

those crafty mexicans
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>>138774952
Nevermind, looks like they're using it in pill form produced by the dealers.
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>>138767600
This makes mustard gas, goys.
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>>138766740
he doesn't know that better products will make the price crash.
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>>138767668
Wrong. Fentenyl will drop the price of heroine. The market will level prices out and provide consumers with choice.
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>>138766464
>At a street value of 100k per kg, thats 330 million dollars worth.
No, since it's so potent, it's going to be practically free and gut the heroin black market.

Know why there are no great criminal empires built on LSD? Because it's synthetic and so potent that making a tiny amount is enough to have as much product as one can sell for decades. That means it's easy for new suppliers to enter the market and satisfy demand, which makes it a buyer's market. So if you want some, it's cheap.

Know why heroin and cocaine are such huge industries? Because they have to grow crops, refine them, and smuggle them across borders.

Meth and pot are in the middle because they're relatively easy to produce locally, but not terribly potent. The barrier to entry is low, but production is a significant amount of work per dose.
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>>138775250
No, although it's impossible to tell how many prescriptions one person has. I imagine, like in America, there's a lot of doctor shopping going on with people picking up more than one prescription or being written them for multiple pain killers.
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>>138766464
Looks like we need a Rodrigo Duterte to kill thousands of drug dealers and reward those who do.
I don't give a fugg if some teen pusher gets murdered by the police
Remember they are only drug dealers, not people
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>>138773658
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>>138768034
>executions hidden from public view
Fucking chinks. We force witnesses to every execution in the USA
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>>138766464
Isnt this that shit that if you even spilled some on your skin it would kill you outright?

this shit is hard stuff, imagine if people started using it as a weapon and dusting peoples faces with it or dumping it around a crowd
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>>138767600
Kek this should be the go too when /pol/ gets raided by shills.
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>>138768666
>Just imagine that bottom five percent..
Damn it satan, your tricks wont work around here.
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>>138775367
Most people who do only fentanyl(or it's analogues) use expensive vape systems. Outside of Canada of course...

In Canada they have meme pills that most idiots snort until they turn blue.

It's actually not very euphoric if you aren't a straight up addict, but somehow non-using leafs have developed a taste for such a potent opioid. It's truly amazing how you fuckers live.
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>>138766464
I *kinda* think the sheer potency makes this somewhat impractical. I would hope that the first shipment inadvertently annihilate all heroin users with mass overdoses.
The only practical legitimate use for this drug is literal "elephant tranquilizer"
Perhaps this is the best thing that could happen to the US heroin epidemic? You are talking dilution on such an infinitesimal scale that the margin for error is non-existent.
I was kinda hoping krokodil would catch on and kill all the baseheads, but this may be the next best thing.
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Fentanyl is some lethal shit so hopefully it kills most druggie scum that use it.
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>>138775629
Naruhodo.
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>>138769635
>hue
At least the goblin women of Mexico are better than your "uma delicia" monkey women

>INB4 what about brazilian traps?
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>>138766464
this cargo had over a billion dollar on street value
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexican-soldiers-140-pounds-of-fentanyl-seized-at-u-s-border/
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>>138768666
>CIA wiping out all the heroin addicts
Silly Satan, why would the CIA want to kill off their livestock? They make billions of those poor addicted bastards, literally no reason for them to kill there cash cow.
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>>138774626
It's true. I live in the Midwest and we have a lot of fentanyl ODs
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>>138766464
That give me a headache just looking at it
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>>138776073
Base has nothing to do with slav produced krok you idiot.

It's just desumorphine synthed with OTC codeine pills in the most slavic way possible. It is kinda the base of opioids though...
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"In 2012, Canadian retail pharmacies dispensed almost 19 million analgesic-opioid prescriptions overall. Last year, that number had ballooned to more than 30 million, reaping nearly $881 million in sales." Over a billion dollars in sales? (((Who))) could be behind this?

>>138775954
Interesting, thanks. I remember a far amount of people being addicted to OxyContin before it was pulled from the market and replaced with something much harder to work with. Doesn't look like Fentanyl is going away any time soon.
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>>138775675
>I don't give a fugg if some teen pusher gets murdered
You do realize without drugs, you inbred, putrid mouthed bongs wouldn't have access to atractive women, right?
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>>138776309
Tell em burgerbro!
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>>138768962
I disagree.
Pic related. Substitute carfentanyl for beer and Americans for buffalo.
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>>138773658
Weren't the spics the ones saying they would genocide the niggers if they had power?
Didn't they purge black gangs recently?
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>>138766464
So will the CIA tax them or take out their competition?
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>>138776426
You mean you remember the time that the company who created OxyContin was forced to acknowledge the addiction problem?

Then lobbied the Canadian goverment to ban the generic("""abusable""") form of it, only to have people put an extra 5 minutes into shooting up? Lol patents n shit lmao
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>>138776166
UMA
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>>138775629
>Know why there are no great criminal empires built on LSD?

Because it's not a guaranteed euphoric experience, and because it's anti-addictive.
You would have done better using amphetamine as an example.
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>>138776619
thats a fucking sweet looking dog
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>>138766464

I'm just waiting for the point where terrorists realize this sort of thing is ideal for contaminating areas. The Russians actually misted the stuff into the Moscow hostage area back in 2002 to take everyone down quick and easy. Cheap to make, lethal without an opioid antidote injection.

Load some up in a crop duster and hose down a city or town. You'll die high, but die you will.
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>>138776732
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>>138768666
>Why doesn't the CIA use this to clean up society?
Who do you think is making it? The CIA payroll depends on opioids.
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>>138767668
More like
>overdoses continue rising because of opioid epidemic and fentanyl use
>carfentanyl becomes mainstream and heroin use/overdoses begin decreasing
>military presence in Afghanistan is praised for heroin usage decrease
>CIA steps in and begins tainting carfentanyl batches smuggled into USA
>Mexican carfentanyl is blamed for increasing overdoses
>DEA gets a shitload more funding and increases presence in Mexico
>carfentanyl becomes more expensive from increased DEA presence
>CIA floods market with heroin
>Heroin use increases in USA so more troops are sent to Afghanistan

CIA isn't going to just let go of the opioid market. Especially when we're about to send more troops to Afghanistan
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>>138775675
The irony is not lost on your flag.
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>>138776822
Notice how sturdy the tail is and how well it would indicate spotting.
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>>138775186
I would stop right there buddy. You're already fucked
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>>138775186
send an email to [email protected] and ask for an invite to the best illegal drug sit on tor, he will redirect you.
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>>138776662
They did in LA, and pretty much anywhere else there population skyrockets. The meme of blacks and latinos working together against whitey is a myth, the latinos hate the nogs for the same reason everyone else does. If they did manage to become a majority in the US I would expect them turn them into complete second class citizens, if not full on extermination.
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>>138777410
Top kek
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>>138777016
i have two that are similar but much fatter than that one.
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>>138775802
Do you know what kinda nasty shit is already out there in the world? This drug is nothing new. Go break into any major zoo, and it's on like donkey kong. You think THIS is the thing that will now make mass chemical attacks possible?
Do you know what caster beans are?
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>>138777482
This. In southern california prison system, both hispanics and whites had the negroes cornered.
The violence was such that people believed the whites and hispanics teamed up, when really all it was that they each stood back and laughed at the negroes when the other did the attacking
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>>138777523
Why are the walls plywood and where does the trap door on the floor lead to?
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>>138778062
i've shown you too much already.
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>>138767600
Legit. This is how I put up with living in Sweden.
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>>138778153
Now I know.
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>>138767581
>>138767682
>>138768028
>>138771866
>>138774626
on todays episode of third world tier countries trying to be edgy
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>>138777754
Ricin/Abram is highly impracticable and meme tier.


There is far, far worse shit out there that people with an IQ of 90 could do if given the direction.

While slightly hard(ie, anyone who could do it wouldn't) to put into practice, risin/abrim would be quite effective. Simply because 3 days of social media posts by the targeted people would be all over the news, scaring your average retard.

There are also vaccines for this shit, so uhh... Yeah. There's probably even an antidote. Pretty impractical IMO.
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>>138776384
Pardon my semantics.
I think my bigger point went over your head.
Krok addicts typically have a 1-2 year life expectancy, vs a heroin addiction who survives significantly longer.
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>>138778460
Fuck you chink, the USA is the definition of 1st world.
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>>138775186
It's never totally safe, but safer than asking niggers. Just look into it, you have a computer.
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>>138776619
My dad has a BTH. They are bad ass dogs
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>>138766464
PROOF
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>>138778489
Heroine addiction can span 40 years
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>>138778489
It's the US. Someone would just capitalize on cleaning the shit up.

Hell I think just evaping the benzene would be enough.
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>>138766464
Really makes me think.
A laser-guided missile costs less than $330 million
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>>138778653
I know. Excellent addition to any family
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>>138774626
Tell him my shits made in America so you can trust me
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>>138778062
Those dog's can't block out the screams.
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We don't have a lot of Fentanyl out East, but this is blowing my mind. The border agency doesn't open packages under 30 grams, so someone could send over 1.5 million dollars worth of Fentanyl and have little problem getting it through.

Apparently, you can buy 20 million dollars worth from China for $12,500. I'm sure the pricing is outdated but still...
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>>138767600
I got a better one.
>buys a few benzedrex inhalers
>take cottons out of inhalers, submerge in 40ml of zippo fluid
>stir
>squeeze out fluid from each cotton and discard them
>mix up some salt with sulfuric acid to generate HCl gas
>apply gas to fluid, swirling to ensure reaction
>not propylhexedrine HCl dropping out of solution
>after about 15-20 minutes, stop
>filter solution to collect prohex HCl on filter
>put inside of empty gelcaps
Presto! Easy-made OTC methamphetamine substitute.
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Let's not forget the benefits of this though. Fentanyl is literally a god send pain manager for pre-hospital and hospital conditions. Much safer to use in controlled doses than morphine.

t. medic
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>>138766464
inb4 this kills all the edgy leftist druggies and they never win another election
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>>138778481
I assure you isn't just a meme. We had a dimwit simpleton get busted in my hometown mixing it up "for self defense"
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>>138779005
Would you fritzle if you had the chance? Be honest. If she was a qt.
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>>138767668
>implying the CIA doesn't already control the cartels
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>>138766464
heroin isnt even that popular in america you idiot. i think its high point was the 70s kinda like how cocain was popular in the 80s but dropped off after that
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>>138779254
i'd do it just for the coolfactor of having a secret labrynth under my house
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>>138776073
>I *kinda* think the sheer potency makes this somewhat impractical.
That just means it has to be diluted appropriately.

3,300 times stronger than heroin means that after transporting it in conveniently concentrated form, you get to dilute it into 3,300 times as much product.
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>>138779061
You can eat the cotton from those inhalers, if you don't mind the disgusting lavender-scented belches.
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>>138779308
This. I have no idea how people haven't figured this.
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>>138778481
I'm still amazed they have never tried to do something like this. Surely in the whole of the middle east they can scrounge up a disgruntled chemist, or even a grad student to cook it up for them. The Paki's have probably cooked up tons of shit like this, to wipe out the pajeet hode if the poo ever hits the loo down there.

The fact that it's never been tried means either our intelligence agencies are much better than they seem at catching them, or the Arabs are really just too dumb and unimaginative too think up something more complex than driving a vehicle into something.
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>>138778959
They are fiercely loyal, protective, but not overly so, good with kids, and all around good boys in my experience.
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>>138779427
Heroine came back in response to meth.
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>>138779096
How do you dispense it? My grandfather was recently put on it before he died, but was completely restless and looked like he was in terrible pain, but of course, that's completely anecdotal.
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>>138779457
Nasty shit though. It's easy enough to convert it into a salt and dose it that way.
Plus as a salt, you can smoke it.
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>>138766464
> At a street value of 100k per kg, thats 330 million dollars worth. From ONE cook. 330,000,000.00$
That's not how economics works, you dumb national socialist.
If something is easy to manufacture and distribute then the price falls. Drug dealers have to compete with other drug dealers.
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>>138779096
This is true. Works wonders for legitimate pain management with significantly less drug for your organs to process.
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>>138779523
Yep. And have a decent life span as well.
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>>138779096

Yeah. It's popular with ambulances for much the same reasons. Properly administered, it's an angel's blessing against pain. Abused, it's Russian Roulette.
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>>138779254
probably. It's amazing to me that none of these girls had the brains to figure out how to escape or kill him in all these decades. You can't hardly keep a negro from making a shiv in prison, but that is seemingly beyond those girls capabilities for some reason.
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>>138779160
What was the delivery method? It's fairly easy to denature and I can't imagine he knew how to store it.

It's effectively a meme. You can only dose so many people covertly(vaccines, antidotes, general medical treatment can nullify it).

Fuck if you put it into a hot drink most of it would be destroyed.

>>138779497
Just google "ISIS ricin baathist chemist" and "ISIS laptop bubonic plague".

These are literally people who think you can disperse bacteria with fucking bombs.
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>>138779598
Lollipops...I'm not kidding
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>>138774626
It is done so it seems like they have pure shit. This why some retarded dealers have put poison in their drugs before.
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>oh hello officer, what seems to be the problem
>oh that, thats just my nasal spray, those pesky allergies
>well have a good day officer
works every tiem
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>>138779438
You'd fuck your daughter for 2 decades as an excuse to have a basement hide away?
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>>138766464
Have fun dying you degenerate.

Stay away from fentanyl, that's basically what's going to be used to assassinate you and you happen to have a heroin addiction. It's super easy to get someone to OD using that.
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What if this is weaponized by terrorists?
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>>138766464
>Hitlers favorite drug was morphine

Bullshit
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>>138767668
Kek.

There's nothing more cancerous than the *nglo being.
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>>138779957
>pesky
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>>138766760
Don't you worry, your children and younger relatives will be there to replace them.
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>>138767600
wow this is legit, I just got my first batch. Will try it out now and let you all know how it went
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>>138766464
Anyone putting this poison out there should be shot, no questions asked. We should be carpet-bombing the cartels and their assets, erase them entirely. Faggot millennial, please get hooked and OD, of course that is your right
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>>138779910
>It's amazing to me that none of these girls had the brains to figure out how to escape or kill him in all these decades
>implying she didn't want to be her fathers sex slave.
She was living the good life anon,he brought her everything she wanted.
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>>138769887
Do you know that people like you are often confused for chimpanzees dressed in people clothes? Just kidding. We always knew you were a chimpanzee :)
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>>138780049
It was cocaine
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I tried some medical fentanyl once. Honestly it's boring, I don't get why people try to get high from it. You just feel numb and slowed down and it sucks.
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Patton Oswalt's wife must be so excit-

oh wait :(
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>>138769887
>>138769887
Do you know that people like you are often confused for chimpanzees dressed in people clothes? Just kidding. We always knew you were a chimpanzee :)
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>>138766464
Imagine being a druggie in 2017 and still thinking you're being persecuted despite the fact that no druggie gets sent to prison for their degenerate habbits
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>>138780049
I thought it was eye drop cocaine? And I thought it was low dose?
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>>138766740
that the equivalent of heroine will be so easy to get and make that no crime boss could realistically control or it heavily profit from it
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>>138766464
I don't get it if they want us to die so much why wouldn't they make drugs legal seems to me to be an easy way to separate the chaff from the wheat
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>>138780049
It was actually Eukodol(oxycodone) and meth, according to his doctor's records.
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>>138780141
JUST FOR THAT YOU CANT HAVE A BOTTLE
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>>138766464
>carfentanyl
It's nothing like heroin or good opiates. Even tramadol is more enjoyable if you can avoid seizing out. Carfent will 100% reduce demand for all pills and powder because most people die when they take it. Carfent is often found in fake xtc and xanax presses so many people take a pill and immediately die these days, people notice that kind of thing.
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>>138766464

Good, because doing heroin is retarded. Is carfentanyl just as deadly?
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>>138767944
Lmao, pussy

I smoked DMT thousands of time

What you're saying is akin to, I should go talk to that girl, it just reeks of cowardice

And btw m8, you are missing out. I'll give you that much.
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>>138768356
I think that title still belongs to scopolamine. A quick throw of the powder; a whiff of a laced piece of paper; a girl with laced lips can kiss you into a subservient zombie.
https://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04
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>>138766464
Morphine is nice, I will say that.

Blew out 2 discs squatting heavy some years ago, was fucked up, went to the ER, took me 5 minutes to be able to get on the exam table, once the morphine drip kicked in, I didn't feel a fucking thing.

Of course, the next 7 years of trial-and-error rehab were an excruciating nightmare...
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>>138769955
>he still doesn't realize that much of the illicit drug trade that occurs in the USA starts from the CIA in order to fund black budget operations with the most notable being the Iran Contra Affair
Before you call anyone else "effectively retarded" maybe you should have a slight understanding of the conversation's context. Most of the cartels are in direct competition with American interests, and will most likely be dealt with at some point, much like the Taliban were.
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>>138780540
>direct link to VICE
Hooktubed that for you to prevent views. Just change the domain in the url.

https://hooktube.com/ToQ8PWYnu04
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>>138768666
>The CIA needs to assist or allow several tons of this shit to hit the streets and then sit back and watch the show

Meanwhile, in the HEROIN EPIDEMIC
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The people overdosing are white...that's why they are revived. Just a guess. Same reason they are cracking down on oxy/fent/painkillers/h/methadone. It's all white people. My cousin got hooked...pretty much ruined his life/family and nearly died..twice. Somehow he recovered, kicked it, and 8 years clean now, with a wife and 2 kids. We are white middle class, somewhat educated.
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>>138780380
Drugs are cooler when they are illegal.

Promoted in TV + Illegal = High levels of drug abuse, very cool

Not promoted in TV + illegal = Low levels of drug abuse, druggies are losers

Not promoted in TV + legal = Medium levels of drug abuse, druggies are losers

Promoted in TV + legal = Medium levels of drug abuse, not very cool, but not losers
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>>138779598

It comes in 100 mcg containers and is usually dispensed IV push or drip. It's usually 1mcg/kg IV push. Hospice would be a drip.

Very safe in any dose up to 100mcg. You're grandfather was probably just in too much pain for his dose. There are not too many bad side effects when administered correctly. He may have needed a better drip rate or prescription.
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>>138780556
>rehab
>not just having your morning morphine with your morning coffee
cuck
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>>138780540
Or you know, a strong deleriant could just send you into a rage for 2 days.

Fucking with acetylcholine is not a good idea. Many such cases of violence and throwing feces have occured. The jimson weed incident is just one example.

Oh and you just need racetams and you'll be effectively immune.
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>>138779931
>ISIS laptop bubonic plague
>"Use small grenades with the virus, and throw them in closed areas like metros, soccer stadiums, or entertainment centers," the document says, reported Foreign Policy. "Best to do it next to the air-conditioning. It also can be used during suicide operations."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/seized-isis-laptop-reveals-wmd-plans-9702030.html
wow, that answers that question, they literally are that retarded. That's from a supposed physics and chemistry student no less, they'd probably have a higher chance of infecting people with plague if they just started throwing prairie dogs at people.
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>>138780814
where does Kratom fall in this?
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>>138780556
>Blew out 2 discs squatting heavy some years ago
what did /fit/ think
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>>138780556
>squat, /fit/ said
>it will get you women, /fit/ said
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>>138766464
>CIA is manufacturing...

Ftfy Nigger

>>138766598
>implying CIA doesn't eliminate competition
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>>138767668
>Carfentanyl makes heroin outdated. So war on drugs not required.

Carfentanil isn't as recreational of an opioid as heroin is.
The 6-monoacetylmorphine that heroin metabolizes into is far more euphoric than carfentanil or any of it's metabolites.

This means that despite the carfentanil being stronger it won't have as much appeal to the recreational / addicted junky.
The reason why people IV opioids is for the rush. Carfentanil's rush is terrible in comparison to heroin.
Heroin will always be in demand because of this.
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>>138779470
>>138779308
Not necessarily. Some cartels are rumored to be in contact with the CIA, but to think that every cartel is under control of the CIA is farfetched.

>>138767668
This is a fairly accurate post.
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>>138779598
>>138780823

Oh and yes, they also distribute it in lollipop form. However, that is only for the military. Some Army medics are familliar with it and one or two cities in the US attempted civilian use of the lollipop method but it was not deemed safe.

The idea was that you would suck on the lollipop and your body would regulate the dosage by passing out when it had enough. It's okay for the military but civilian side, we'd never use such a method.
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>>138780123
How does his response warrant this response? idgi
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>>138781007
Kratom is babby tier
Hardly any benefits, extremely addicting, and doesn't even fuck you up.

I got some from a friend of a friend and just kept taking higher doses until it was gone. Eventually got to about 7-8 doses in one sitting before I realized it just makes you feel drunk. 3-5 doses is high concentration abilities followed by depression. A meme drug
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>>138780971
>grenades
>virus
>bubonic plague(a fucking bacteria)

I don't even laugh at the retardation anymore. Where the fuck did they find someone so retarded?
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>>138781129
>to think that every cartel is under control of the CIA is farfetched
Any cartel that is not plugged in is at an extreme disadvantage and cannot be taken seriously.
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>>138781242
>extremely addicting
>Hardly any benefits
nigger if you're going to spout nonsense im going to have to shove your head up your ass & roll you all the way back to fucking reddit
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Anyone have any thoughts on where the price of Fentanyl is going to end up?

It looks like an addicts habit costs about $80 a day, but in whole sale powder that is only about 50 cents worth or so. Would the competition from drug dealers ever push it down to a reasonable price per day or will the risks of drug dealing always keep the price unaffordable? Regardless, it doesn't look good as it's, if you don't consider it already, readily available.

>>138780823
That's interesting. It seems like every painkiller has a limit of how much it can block pain receptors before the side effects kills you. I wonder if we will ever discover something that doesn't.
>>138780320
Was it in the dose that addicts use?
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>>138767749
If letti g junkies die is tge result, i say let the dealers deal. The important thing is tgat talented people wjo want to use opioids will be able to live productive, successful lives, partly because the opioids are so cheap. In the current situation, these talented peoole will have to spend ALL of their money on heroin because the drug war makes drugs expensive.
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>>138781532
It was. I immediately felt hooked. I would get upset if I couldn't take muh pills. Once they were all gone I just didn't buy more. But I wanted to for about a month. I found a single pill when I was cleaning my car last week and I downed it without hesitation. Kratom is highly addictive.
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>>138780540
Vice isn't a very reputable source.
Scopolamine isn't some magic drug that will make a person do whatever you tell them to. It's simply a strong deliriant that will make the person hallucinate and has a high chance to cause blackouts.
Scopolamine is simply one of many belladonna / datura alkaloids and it's used medically to control muscle spasms, typically in the stomach area.
You can easily get a scopolamine prescription if you wanted. There's even pills with scopolamine, atropine and hyoscyamine in it. Those 3 drugs, all alkaloids of datura, have the same effects (they all bind to the acetylcholine receptors in your brain). This makes the combination of the 3 far stronger than scopolamine alone, yet it's still weak enough that it's not a scheduled drug.

I've taken high doses of scopolamine alone and combined with hyoscyamine and atropine. The effects of the drug is nothing like that vice video you linked. It's actual effects are like any other deliriant, whether it's an over the counter deliriant like benadryl or a chemical warfare deliriant like BZ. The effects they cause are confusion, hallucinations, increased body heat and blood pressure, dehydration and blackouts.
It does not magically make the intoxicated person into a slave that does whatever any person tells them.
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>>138781721
>highly addictive
>didn't buy anymore
Doesn't sound like you know what highly addictive means
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>>138781532
also
>Anyone who disagrees with me is from reddit

I guarantee i have been on chins longer than you.
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Protip: Heroin is a very safe drug, its only dangerous when retards forget their tolerance level and take too much.
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>>138781848
>what is willpower

I also quit cigarettes and drinking cold turkey. But that doesn't mean I wasn't addicted. Retard
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>>138767600
don't do it the spoon explodes
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>>138766464
>neuropharmacologically
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>>138766803

Methods For Preparing Fentanyl And Fentanyl Intermediates
US 20130281702 A1

https://www.google.ca/patents/US20130281702?dq=fentanyl+synthesis&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYoKCms-7VAhUm_IMKHfFGCO4Q6AEIKDAA

Good Luck, You'll need it...

Protipo -= this is way to hard for a chemist noob to make try something easier like meth or mdma, heck you can make mdma from the shit you scrape of your barbecue or the BPA liner in cola cans
BPA(bis-phenol-A)------>Phenol------>Catechol------->pyrocatechualdehyde------->piperonal-------> ect ect
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>>138781589
It's expensive in Canada because triads take advantage of retarded junkies with the goverment's help.

Direct from manufacturer price is like 5 USD a day if you want to be a blue fucking zombie all day. Most people just can't do the math or research. Stop looking at your own country, it's a hell of a lot different from everywhere else. Somehow your country has addicts exclusively addicted to Chinese fentanyl pills pressed with dog food.
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>>138781883

This is not true at all. Long term heroin use of any dosage large enough to cause a "high" will eventually result in immune system compromise, massive GI problems, cancers, memory loss and respiratory problems.

Quit using poison anon. The Jews literally control you
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>>138774626
>this is being used to systematically kill people on the east coast
Good. Heroin is a self-solving problem.
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>>138781934
>that doesn't mean I wasnt addicted
There's a difference from something that is addictive and something that is highly addictive. There is chemical addiction and psychological addiction with the possibility of both.
If you cold turkey something without incident but know you had a real habit, then it's addictive.
If you struggle, then its closer to the highly addictive category.
Dont call me a retard,your flag lost to antifa.
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>>138781883
That's great, as long as you're always getting your heroin from reputable pharmaceutical factories, instead of dodgy criminals, and your dosing is supervised by an anesthesiologist.

No, heroin isn't a "very safe drug". Once you're addicted, you can even die of withdrawal. How can a drug be safe when starting to take it puts you at risk of dying if you can't get it?
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>>138782309
>obsessing over flag choice
Not an argument

But if we are discussing the technical definition of HIGHLY addictve then I guess you are right.

It was lowly addictive. But the effects of the addiction were FAST. Does that make sense? I experienced withdrawal like symptoms and depression when I couldn't take them.

With any other drug I can normally walk away.
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>>138782568
>not an arguement
Neither is name calling.
And of course I'm right.
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>>138782235
Opioids and opiates don't cause immune system damage, cancers or chronic respiratory problems.

You're confusing it's acute intoxication effects with what you believe are long-term side effects. A lab grade (99.9%) opioid will not cause any of the problems you listed. Let's go over them one at a time.
There's absolutely no damage to the immune system done by opioids or opiates. The immune system damage from IV abusers is caused from reusing dirty needles, sharing needles or the impurities and bacteria that's in every dose of street heroin. The GI problems can occur from opioids, but they're typically constipation and they're not long-term damage. The GI problems will stop if the drug is stopped and it's not even guaranteed to happen in the first place.
There is no link between opioids and cancer at all.
Memory loss is a pretty retarded thing to bring up. Yes, it can occur. It can occur with any intoxicating drug, though. It's no different from alcohol or cannabis in that regard and it's not damage to the brain that causes it.
Respiratory problems can occur, but that's because opioids are CNS depressants. Any CNS depressant can cause respiratory problems whether it's alcohol, benzodiazepines, opioids or barbiturates. Respiratory depression is only a problem in cases of overdoses or when it's combined with another drug.
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>>138782701
Now you are just replying for the sake of it
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>>138766464
how is it over when pig retards and private prison owners are making tons of money
the US population has to deal with MRAP tanks driving through their streets and cops wearing camo because muh drugs
the government loves the war on drugs, it's up to the people to end it
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>>138779931
>people think bio-weapons would be preceded by some kind of loud explosion
this is probably why hollywood exists, dumbing people down until they are helpless

Wasn't there a recent case where some guys tried to poison a water supply in some town?
Would that even work if the water went thorugh a treatment plant?
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>>138781242
7-8 doses ? you talking 35-40 grams in one sitting? how did you manage to put that much down? i call bullshit
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>>138781242
>he gets depression from psychoactives
lol noob
also kratom is 6 hour weed good to binge on for a week or something
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>>138782930
Nope. You said retard, so I pointed out the flag you were waving and you took it down.
You said I was right and I agreed.
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>>138767944
dmt is far easier to make than fentanyl ;)
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>>138783294
Is it though? Or is it that I'm just impatient?
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>>138781721
You're some kind of retard.
>kratom is addictive
>kratom is highly addictive
holy shit
ALSO
>it's shit
>i got addicted to it
lmfao
You sound like such a boring druggie. You probably will die without merit fag
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>>138766464
its probably chinks making the fentanyl and selling it to mexico
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>>138783294
you can buy mescaline cactus legally, but no one does that drug anymore because it's expensive compared to lsd
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>>138767628
that wasn't his point. nowhere in his post does it mention that drug users would die. he's just talking about the money that the drug could generate

>>138768810
stfu you low iq faggot
>"hurr the drug war id ovr durrr bcuz dis new drug"
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>>138783511
this and it's probably CIA allied cartels that bring it to USA
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>>138782213

If I remember correctly, the pills are supposed to look like Oxy, which everyone was already addicted to, so it was easier to get them to try it as a replacement.

Fine then, my burger brat friend, where do you see the American opioid epidemic going? I don't see any solutions on the horizons.
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>>138766464
make naltrexone implants mandatory for addicts
These implants make it impossible to get high
and last for months.
Drug war - won.
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>>138782927

>The GI problems can occur from opioids, but they're typically constipation and they're not long-term damage.

You're not being honest about the long term effects of Heroin use on the GI track. It can absolutely cause permanent damage, that damage can increase the risk of GI cancers as well. Not a good thing when colon cancer is becoming 100x more prevalent among the new generations.

>The GI problems will stop if the drug is stopped and it's not even guaranteed to happen in the first place.

But stopping the drug is incredibly difficult to do and once again, there ARE long term effects on the GI from using heroin.

Honestly though, link me a source. The burden of proof is on you since 99.9% of the scientific community is in agreement that heroin will destroy your system no matter what.
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>ctrl f Chinese fentanyl
>0 result
step it up sempais
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>>138783440
1 dose of kratom is 5-8 grams. this guy is claiming he took 7-8 doses in one sitting. lets conservatively call that 40G. thats 80 double ought pills worth of kratom. then he claims he found one pill and took it? come on. this guy smells of bullshit, and he trollin us
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>>138783511
China makes the precursors
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>>138783604
private prison stocks are up 50%+
rehabs are making 20-30k+ from 1 resident
sure it's ruining the country but it's good business to some
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>>138766464
>50% of the black population in America dies after one year of useing the drug.
>Literaly natural selection in drug form
I don't see much wrong with this.
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>>138766464
Hitler did meth dumbass.
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>>138766464
Chinese origin fent is all over the place too!
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>>138782997
Depends on if it was before or after "treatment". UV-C and the other techniques would kill off almost anything of note, but simple molecules(think cyanide or whatever) could be relatively unaffected. The logistics for it all is extremely retarded.

My favorite attack(don't take this out of context) is the one at the furry convention. The scenario was just so fucking funny. Fucking chlorine gas, at a furry convention. Pretty sure no one was even hurt becausd they all had fursuits on.

>>138783604
Oh, those...

Also, I have no fucking idea. Someone is basically trying to genocide these people though.
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>>138783895
>OP thought hitler did morphine
lel OP is a retarded faggot
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>>138783722
>proof that studies say no long term damage to GI tract vs studys that say it is harmful.
Youre giving him a near impossible task, anon. I say you link us some studies that say it will harm the GI tract. It shouldnt be too difficult to help you win your argument
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>>138783887
I know 1 house wife and 3 kids in their early 20s who have died from fent od, all white but I only associate with white people
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>>138783887
Shhh! :^)
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>>138784118
>only associates with white people.
You're such a racist, anon. :^)
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>>138783722
There's no long-term damage ever mentioned at all in any scientific report on opioids.
The only problems opioids cause to the GI tract, called OBD (Opioid bowel dysfunction) are temporary and stop once the drug is stopped.

>In an effort to relieve the most common and debilitating OBD symptom, constipation, patients often use laxatives chronically (which is associated with risks) or alter/abandon their opioid medication, potentially sacrificing analgesic efficacy

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1974804/

This article clearly states any OBD problems will stop once the drug is stopped.

How about you link some scientific study showing the link between opioids and GI cancer and permanent bowel problems if 99.9% of doctors say it's true (which they don't)?
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>>138766464
IN OTHER NEWS DRUG ADDICTS ARE DROPPING LIKE FLIES!
MAGA!
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Heroin isn't pleasant unless you are genetically disposed to enjoy it. Otherwise you will spend 120 minutes wishing the uncontrollable projectile vomit will stop so you can breath. Yuk.
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>>138784393
Good job, anon!
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>>138784393
I used to grow my own poppies and it was so comfy making poppypod tea with black tea and lemon
I would smoke a couple bowls while I drank it and would throw on some music
but this processing of opiates into heroin/fent makes them dangerous
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>>138784118
Silly anon you think there won't be a few dumb fucks, from spics to Muslimes to niggers who won't go for this shit.
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>>138784595
>poppypod tea
Does that work?
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>>138766464
Hiter was addicted to all kinds of stuff, especially towards the end of the war. He took Eukodal, a mixture of cocaine and heroin, and vitamulin, which contained amphetamines. German soldiers also took meth by the brand name of Pervitin which was rationed out to members of the Luftwaffe.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/03/07/518986612/author-says-hitler-was-blitzed-on-cocaine-and-opiates-during-the-war
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>>138766464
china has been making U47700 for a while now.... people still prefer pharms, this can't compete unless they use it as a cut.
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>>138784750
>implying they all knew what they were talking
Doctors told them they were vitamin b shots
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>>138784053
I should also add that if the guy at the furrycon wasn't outright retarded he could have easily made chlorine into something a hell of a lot stronger.

Surprised that guy hasn't been caught honestly.
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>>138784393
Addiction changes the subjects personality. You might be the nicest guy on earth but just like Gollum was once a hobbit type creature but became a snake because of his addiction to the ring you will lie, steal, beg, borrow and possibly even suck to get a temporary fix.
Fook that for a game of soldiers.
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>>138784734
yes this species Papaver somniferum has the most opiate alkaloids
you can scrape the shit and refine it, but it's just easier keep the whole pod, crushing it and making tea with it, add some black tea leaves and other stuff for flavor
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>>138767720
used to take 20-30 of them a day
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>>138785042
What did that do to your dick?
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>>138784905
We're not talking about addiction, we're talking about opioid's effects on the GI tract and whether it's permanent or not.
Don't change the subject because you can't find any scientific articles supporting your incorrect views.
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>>138785139
Top kek.
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>>138766760
I imagine your post is optimistic in nature. my brother got into heroin and stole from my family and stole my car. I hope this shit hits the streets and everyone dies.
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>>138785465
your brother is the reason why we can buy opiates over the counter anymore
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>>138776619
Never understood faggots who cut the tail and straighten the ears on dobermans to look more "cool"
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>>138783693
"A 2011 review of studies suggested that naltrexone, when taken by mouth, was not superior to placebo or to no medication, nor was it superior to benzodiazepine or buprenorphine. Because of the poor quality of the reviewed studies, the authors found insufficient evidence to support naltrexone therapy when taken by mouth for an opioid use disorder.

Extended-release depot injections of naltrexone, administered once per month, have proven somewhat effective in treating opioid abuse, an approach that avoids the compliance issue that arises with oral formulations."

Doesn't look like it's all that effective and does nothing for cravings, which means the addicts would probably take it out forcefully and off they go.
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>>138766464
my best friend is dead because of this garbage.

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>>138780416
A goddamn Rx speedball!
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>>138785603
What's your point?
I just said I hope he fucking dies.
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>>138775186
go to the dark net markets noob subreddit and follow the dnm bible.
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>>138766464
Although it's a strong opioid, it isn't recreational in the way that heroin is you dumb faggot
Demerol is a very strong opioid, but nowhere near as recreational as say oxycontin or dilaudid

>Oh, and Hitlers favorite drug was morphine, which is neuropharmacologically the same as heroin. The more ya know!
DAE know Hitler also only had one ball and was half jewish too? xD
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>>138785603
Opioids are the reason drug use in general is looked upon as bad.
90% of the problems with drugs come from heroin and friends.
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>>138785636
Kek. Thats not a doberman. That's a Black and tan coonhound
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>>138785699
You're correct, naloxone and naltrexone do not do anything to suppress cravings for opioids.
All naloxone/naltrexone will do is prevent opiates and opioids from binding to the opioid receptors in the brain because the naltrexone/naloxone has a much higher affinity for the binding sites. This means that the naltrexone/naloxone will sit in those receptors and prevent any other opioids from binding to them, preventing them from having any effect. It will also "rip out" any opioids/opiates in the receptors in the brain if they're there when the naltrexone/naloxone is taken. This will throw the addict into precipitated withdrawals instantly.
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>>138785981
Don't know bout that other shit but everyone was blasted out on speed during the 30s-60s. It's why so much monumental shit happened during that time period.
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>>138786141
Fml... Beautiful dog tho...
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>>138786233
opiates =/= amphetamine
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>>138786500
One of the greatest breeds you can own. See here >>138779523
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>>138786571
I know. I'm just saying that drugs played a HUGE role in the WWII era on all sides.

Stims are godly. Opioids are trash.
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>>138785726
:(
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>>138786788
Both stimulants and opioids are useful drugs for different reasons. To say opioids are trash is pretty ignorant of their beneficial effects.
Would you be willing to have spinal surgery if the only medication they gave you was meth? I really doubt you'd want a drug that'd keep you awake for the surgery, feeling every cut.

Stimulants, while beneficial drugs, are also very harmful to the body. They're great drugs for certain activities but they've got a lot of downsides as well. Stimulants in general are very nuerotoxic and cardiotoxic.
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>>138787327
What's a person's night vision like on meth?
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>>138766464
>Mexicans are manufacturing carfentanyl, which is 3,300 times stronger than heroin.
So we build a wall and blow up anybody that approaches
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>>138766760
heroin mostly kills white people
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>>138787438
I have no idea. I'd imagine it would make it a bit better simply because the person is able to focus and notice small details they wouldn't otherwise notice while they're high on it. I'd imagine it can also be a detriment to it due to the stimulation effecting the small movements the eye constantly does during normal vision, making them more erratic and blurring the vision.

In general I don't know, though. I've never really looked into that specific subject.
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>>138766803
right here

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS747US747&q=how+to+kill+yourself&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjK7trmv-7VAhVE4yYKHTZ4CUoQvwUIIygA&biw=1024&bih=715
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>>138787672
mostly hispanic (((white))) actually
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>>138787764
Pupils get bigger(sometimes taking up the entire eye, especially at night), thus the ability to see in the dark increases.

Likewise, opioid addicts can't see in the dark because their pupils are like fucking pinpoints.
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>>138787764
You may be correct in that users become hyper-vigilant and notice sudden movment better; however, I'd assume all stimulants cause pupil constriction, which reduces the amount of light entering the eye.
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>>138787858
That's not actually true. At least for the year I could find the most recent data for (2015):
http://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/opioid-overdose-deaths-by-raceethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D


>White non-hispanic deaths: 27,056
>Hispanic deaths: 2,507
>Black deaths, non-hispanic: 2,741
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>>138787438
Pretty good IME.
I prefer pyrovalerones though. They're more direct.

>>138787327
Agreed. Recreationally, opioids ARE trash. There's just nothing to the high except MUH LOVED UP WARMTH. With stims, you get that foot up the ass and can utilize the high for more than just hedonism.
That's what I meant by trash. Opioids are purely medicinal in utility.
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>>138767150
I may be late to the party, but people overdose on fentanyl because of wildy ranging doses. Not because
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>>138788061
You have it backwards. Almost any stimulant, including caffeine causes dilation.

Many such cases of tweakers with eye damage.
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>>138787327
Could you, perhaps speak to common drug side effects outside of pharmacological addiction? I know it's a huge topic but are the effects of euphoria and stimulation good enough on their own that many people would still use drugs if they weren't physically addicted to them?
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>>138788061
>>138788253
The second anon I quoted is actually correct.
Paradoxical reactions excluded, opiates will constrict the pupils and stimulants will dilate them.
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>>138785699
>Doesn't look like it's all that effective and does nothing for cravings
1. I'm talking about pellets inserted under the skin that last for several months, slowly dissolving and releasing mega doses of naltrexone. These DO work, and they DO end cravings after 1-2 weeks.

I read a post about a woman addict begging users to on the forum to tell her how to get rid of the implant. then she posted a couple days later that she talked to her dad and that he said she had won, she had beat the addiction, and they hugged each other. the implant stayed in.
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>>138788091
sorry i meant latino
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>>138788416
>>138788253
>>138788061
You're right, I assumed that because something like caffeine constricted blood vessels, that it constricted the muscles in the pupils as well for some reason. I just searched it, and I was corrected
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>>138788313
Drug side effects are a huge topic, could you maybe suggest some specific drugs or class of drugs that you're interested in side effects for? It'd take up several posts worth just talking about them in general.

>I know it's a huge topic but are the effects of euphoria and stimulation good enough on their own that many people would still use drugs if they weren't physically addicted to them?

Generally speaking, yes. Euphoria from drugs is the main reason that people get physically addicted to them in the first place. Once the physical addiction starts and the body begins to alter the chemicals it produces due to the constant addition of outside chemicals the beneficial effects (euphoria, stimulation, etc.) will actually get far weaker. Eventually you'll need far higher doses than you can afford to get any euphoria and you'll just be taking your drugs to avoid withdrawals and feel semi-normal.
The euphoria you get from drugs is always strongest if you're not physically addicted to them.
Not sure if that addressed what you were asking.
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>>138766464
Trump should order KFC to add carfentanyl to their chicken wings and give niggers $1000/week in EBT. Hopefully they'll be extinct in 7 days.
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