Why are Democrats so against voters needing to have IDs? Does

>>138743343
They are very obviously reliant on lazy niggers and illegal voters.

Because they pander to incompetent subhumans who can't figure out how to get an ID, or illegals

>>138743343
Cause it's not about voter ID. Republicans claim it's about voter ID then all the sudden they close polling stations in black, hispanic, and student areas.

>>138743343
>Does it not make sense to have records and identification
Identification yes. Records no. I don't want the state keeping record of my political affiliations.
But the reason Dems don't want voter ID is because they want illegals to be able to vote, and they vote early and often

>>138743492
Maybe they close them because no one shows up.

>>138743343
Because it can't be handled nationally, only state by state, so there would be costs transferred to the citizen in order to create the IDs. Something like that.

It would be nice if we could have the same thing as europe and have IDs, if for no reason but to shut everyone up.

>>138743343

Some illegal aliens vote. Dems say "oh it's a small number" but the point is in many states the margin of victory is a small number. If voter ID was required always then many illegals would be stopped from voting for the Dems/

>>138743572
>I don't want the state keeping record of my political affiliations.
This. I miss living in Texas, which has open primaries. In Florida, you have to register with a party to vote in their elections.

>>138743641
>so there would be costs transferred to the citizen in order to create the IDs.

Wow, 15 whole dollars.

>>138743626
No they close them try to prevent people from voting Democrats. Have you seen the lineups? American elections are 3rd world tier thanks to Republicans.

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>>138743343
>illegals

>>138743343
its literally only to get votes, the dnc is extremely paternalistic to a point where its racist. dnc needs to be dissolved, same with jews in the media and in porn. literally jews and the dnc has made this white and black divide again and im sick of it like all racist jokes aside, were are back in the 70s again and it is not the fault of blacks or whites simply....the jews

>>138743572
>>138743707
By records, I meant mailing addresses and such.

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>>138743343
Because the only way to win is with dead peoples SSN and illegal alien voters.

And if you dont think the millions of illegals that stole your SSN# to work didn't use those same #'s to vote? your a nigger.

I have never understood why you don't need an ID to vote but one is required to by beer and smokes.

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>>138743343
The democrat party are rank criminals and use illegal votes.

>>138743343
nice feets

12 million mexican reasons

Because without illegal voters 42 states would be landslide red.
No, I'm not joking. Look that shit up.

>>138743793
Well that just makes sense. How else would they know which district you should be voting in? This becomes much more important for things like school board elections.

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Keep in mind the only actual illegal voting that took place went for Trump

>>138743760
That's wrong.

>>138743997
Furthermore if women, and non tax payers didn't vote it would be nearly 100% red.

>>138744084
Good point. The leaf got us boys, let's pack it up, not a single illegal immigrant voted in the last election.

>>138743343
>Why are Democrats so against voters needing to have IDs?
because a sizable number of democrats are braindead welfare-dependant basket cases that can barely read.

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>>138744084

even worse some genuinely believe illegals should be allowed to vote, and to vote for their own citizenship, I wish I was making this up.

>>138743343
I never understood this about Burgerland. Even in my 3rd world hellhole they've implemented Voter ID.

>>138743343
Who is this image of complete perfection?

>>138743492
What the fuck are you talking about cancuck?
What do voter ID laws have to do with closing polling stations?
You do realise the only reason they are not enforced is so that illegals can vote right?
Even their racist reasoning for the law is provably false.

Every fucking country should require an ID to vote, it's just common sense

>>138744084
L.A. has 144% more people registered to vote than live in the city/county. I'll let the anons in this thread that aren't fucking leafs make their own conclusions.

>>138744444
The digits

>>138744084
>ICE gets most of their deportations by pulling illegals who voted
>News instead reports on something that doesnt happen every other day

>>138744560
Steve Bannon registered to vote in two states despite Trump's cries of 'voter fraud'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/steve-bannon-voter-registration-trump-election-voter-fraud

>>138744689
Archive
https://unvis.it/theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/steve-bannon-voter-registration-trump-election-voter-fraud

>>138743736
>Wow, 15 whole dollars.

That poor people would get for free anyways because of gibs.

>>138744621
>ICE gets most of their deportations by pulling illegals who voted

right wing retards just make shit up

u retards are literally fake news you're not even ashamed of it

>>138744271
completely untrue, legal citizens voted twice for hillary as well. Illegals voted for Hillary.

>>138743343
Your right to vote is in the constitution, if you are required to have an ID to vote, your constitutional rights are being violated.

It's exactly the same as gun licensing.

>>138744689
>republicans can commit voter fraud as well, so it's ok
Is that your retarded point? Neither one should be able to fucking do it

>>138744846
Yeah, but they'd rather spend that on rims and gold fronts.

>>138743343
you know the reason why, and it ain't racism.

If it applies to everyone. It cannot be racist.

But they use the racism to block it.

No voter ID. Fraud fraud fraud until it is stopped....by voter id.

>>138743343
Well, how else are they going to commit voter fraud?

>>138744689
LA alone has 1.76 million illegal registries. You have posted 2 to the contrary.

Also, http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/11/30/ice-agent-counterfeit-drivers-licenses-illegal-immigration-voters-registration-elections
>Muh faux news!
Said the leaf posting the guardian

>>138743492
We have voter IDs here and all is well. Nobody closes stations in black, native, Chinese, Lebanese etc majority areas.

>>138743343
i voted for Hillary in 3 counties

what you gonna do trumpets?

>>138745322
You can vote without ID in Canada dude

>>138745405
You need one piece of gov't ID to vote whatever it is that you have. Have you never voted before?

>>138743641
yes poo in loos all have voter ID's in india. A BILLION FUCKING PEOPLE.

but the "greatest" nation on earth (300 million people) ...this is impossible.

dude, seriously

>>138745343
nothing we still won :^)

>>138745556
No you don't, I've worked as a poll clerk. You can vote with a bill with your address on it and a someone to vouch for your identity.

>>138745882
Where at? Every time I've voted you need one piece of government ID. And one document proving your address.

>>138744945
Being registered in 2 places is not voter fraud you fucking moron.

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>>138743343
>Republicans reinforcing the need for a voter ID is racist and they're only doing it because it benefits them
>Democrats rushing to naturalize illegals and even turning a blind eye to illegals potentially voting is democratic and altruistic

Voting is an important decision and if you can't give enough of a fuck to even register then perhaps you shouldn't have the right to decide the future of your country?

>>138745181
They can't vote dumbass.

>>138743343

How do you vote with dead people then?

>>138746103
http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e

As a follow up, all of these pieces of ID you can only get as a resident of Canada. ID is still ID.

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>>138746103
>Being this dense
You bus the people across state lines to have them vote in the other party's states.
How can you not get this, there was video where the DNC literally admitted and went into great detail about it.

>>138746168

DAILY REMINDER:

>For example, we contacted Los Angeles County directly this past June. At that time, county officials informed us that the total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age.
>http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/nvra-letter-ca-august-2017/

>>138743343
You already know the answer to your question.

>>138746280
we're talking about us elections

Canadian elections are clean af

Other than Conservative voter suppression of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Canadian_federal_election_voter_suppression_scandal

>>138743343
I don't get it either. Getting an ID isn't that hard.

I guess cost could be an issue, but finding a way to reduce the cost of gov't issued ID seems super easy.

Hell why not just issue ID automatically on your 18th birthday. Just use your most recent school photo or something.

>>138746334
Holy shit you're fucking retarded. You don't understand the difference between registration and actually voting.

Who Is Registered to Vote in Two States? Some in Trump’s Inner Circle
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/politics/trump-cabinet-family-voter-registration.html?mcubz=0

Stick to UK affairs and vote Labour.

thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4_Yrwb4rh8

>>138746365
Does it even matter outside of swing states, though? LA county will be Democrat no matter what

>>138743343

why does this girl have a boy's face under those uncountably infinite layers of make up

>>138743343
Who is this charming female?

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>>138746646
exactly

right wing retards with their pizzaspiracies are dumb af

They had to make up millions of illegal voters to make themselves feel better about losing the popular vote

>>138746064
http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e

Look at those requirements for ID my friend

>>138746646

>40% of the population isn't legal
>does it matter?

>>138743736
We have laws that make it illegal for to it cost anything to vote. That's part of why it's such a mess, you would have to pull from the taxes, or raise the taxes in general, and no state governor will do that, and national gov is not allowed to do this sort of thing, so it becomes a mess.

>>138746607
Well if you're registered in cali and wisconsin, and you're a liberal living in california, then you go and vote in wisconsin, where you need an ID and show ID.

How is that not voter fraud?

>vote labour
I vote for Jeremy Corbyn to be sent to the gulag

>>138743766
If pic related is an illegal there is a 90% chance she has at least one silver tooth...

>>138746935

>and no state governor will do that

many states have programs for free I.D.s

>>138746844
>right wing retards
Obomaleafnigger confirmed

>>138743760
Buying proof

>>138744393
this , a chinese girl I knew thought she should have a right to vote in this country because she lived here

>>138744088

obama leaf likes to spin shit, that's kind of his forte

>>138743492
please show us one instance where republicans have closed polling stations in black , hispanic, or student areas

>>138744909
now liberals care about the constitution. I thought it was just a old piece of parchment. the 1st is constantly attacked under the guise of hate speech. and the second amendment is somehow antiquated

>>138746944
Being registered in 2 places doesn't mean you're voting twice. This is how I know you're fucking retarded.

>>138747524
There Are 868 Fewer Places to Vote in 2016 Because the Supreme Court Gutted the Voting Rights Act
Nearly half of counties that previously approved voting changes with the federal government have cut polling places this election.
https://www.thenation.com/article/there-are-868-fewer-places-to-vote-in-2016-because-the-supreme-court-gutted-the-voting-rights-act/

Mass poll closures in battleground states create potential for Election Day chaos
It’s the first presidential election in 50 years without the full protection of the Voting Rights Act.
https://thinkprogress.org/mass-poll-closures-in-battleground-states-create-potential-for-election-day-chaos-3933184e9f6d/

Those Insane Early Voting Lines Were a Direct Result of Republican Voter Suppression
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/07/those_insanely_long_early_voting_lines_were_a_result_of_republican_voter.html

>>138743760
How would that even work? "Hey everyone, if you're voting democrat, please raise your hand and move to the back of the line. Keep them up until you're at the booth. Oh sorry, first guy with his hand up, the polls just closed 4 hours before schedule."

>>138746103
Then what's your point you fucking mongoloid?

>>138748120
That right wing retards think it is

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>>138747656
>completely missing the point
I didn't say that though did I?
I said busing voters to red and swing states from solid blue states is voter fraud, and that the democrats admitted they do it all the time.

It should be stopped, one vote for one state and one registration for one voter in the state you reside in.

The dems can't win without votes from minorities. Without the illegal immigrant minority vote, they pretty much lose every election.

>>138749063
Lol no Democrats didn't admit to any of that. You must be fucking retarded. Don't you think Republicans would take them to court, and investigate them, it would be national news. You're so fucking retarded man. It sounds like you got duped by another one of Fake News O'Keefe's videos. Stick to Pizzagate kiddo.

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>>138743343
>Why are Democrats so against voters needing to have IDs?
Because that is and always has been voter suppression. This is elementary school history and civics, anon.

>>138745405
what the fuck province do you live in
ive voted in both provincial and federal elections multiple times and they require 2 pieces of id in poutineland

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>>138749222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
gables avenue

>>138743343
Democrats need to cheat

It's the only way they ever win elections

>>138746847
alright you can see the confusion then
>show 1 of these, if not
>show 2 of these
makes sense

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>>138749435
>Project Veritas

>>138749435
>It sounds like you got duped by another one of Fake News O'Keefe's videos.

yep i called it

>>138749222
Lol you are so out of touch, at least do some research before you spout off nonsense

>>138743492
>all the sudden
Subhuman idiot

>>138749222
>>138749435
>This is duping
>Claims it's false with no evidence
>'doctored footage'

>>138743760
You have no clue what you're talking about. Please shut the fuck up.

>>138749494
Yes. When has this been debunked?

Everytime Obamaleaf posts outside of his templates, I remember how retarded he is.

Diversion from the main problem which are dirty voter rolls consisting of dead and people illegally registered.

>>138749613
Oh god it's Obama leaf

That explains it

This level of retardation takes someone very special

>>138743818
Do you need one to buy a gun?

>>138749699
He's one of the few people I wish would trip or at least namefag. It'd be alot easier to filter his posts.

>>138747831
>>138747831

now post some proof other than your liberal blogs

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>>138749552
>>138749541
>>138749524
>>138749613
>>138749699
lol right wing retards get their fake news from a literal convicted felon

u can't make this shit up

Fox News Notes James O'Keefe's Criminal Past After His Newest Video Is Released
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2016/10/18/fox-news-notes-james-okeefes-criminal-past-after-his-newest-video-released/213916

inb4 but muh media matters

it's a fox news video

the fucker barely avoided jail time

>>138743423
It's this.

>>138749982
>right wing retards in denial of reality

u fucktards are delusional

>>138744909
Also have a right to bear arms fgt, still need a ccw. Your point is literally moot.

>>138747968
When Democrats are in charge, they open more polling places in nigger neighborhoods. Niggers vote 90% Democrat in total, but poor niggers vote closer to 100% Democrat. Then when Republicans close down these polling places, Democrats screech about muh racism.

That pose looks like she's taking a dump.

>>138750138
you shouldn't have to wait 8 hours to vote

like i said u right wing retards want america to be 3rd world tier

it's thanks to you right wing retards that America has lost all moral authority abroad

Just a reminder these people don't think you should have any identification to enter the country. If not having an ID made you eligible to vote we would never see another Conservative in the White House. All the people sucking our government's titty would control the fate of our country.

>>138749998
18 posts so far in this thread obama leaf, I'm sure you can make it to 100, keep going

>>138746935
And virtually everybody who should be eligible to vote ALREADY HAS an ID to:
>drive,
>open a bank account,
>cash a check,
>buy alcohol,
>buy tobacco,
>get sweet gubmint gibs,
>leave or reenter the country,
>rent a car,
>buy insurance,
>own or rent a dwelling,

So who are these people that are so oppressed to be asked to produce an ID (which they undoubtedly already have) in order to vote?

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fun fact:

we have official voter ID-needed to vote for pretty much anything in mexico, and it takes about a month to get it. its not considered racist or anything

why is the same thing considered racist in the USA?

>>138750226
but you want to bring in third worlders

>>138750226
8 hours my ass. There is paper, electronic, AND standard voting in booths. Cry me a fucking river.

>>138749998
>impersonating a federal agent
>tapping phones
>investigative journalist

Oh boy how damning. Really destroys the video evidence he has!
>doctored videos
The videos he posted are obviously not doctored, and if they were they would have made a very big deal about it, to think they didn't check them for that is stupid, they are edited.

My god you're an idiot mate

>>138750226
Yes, it's Republicans that want America to be third world tier. It's definitely not Democrats who advocate for mass immigration from third world countries and mass illegal immigration from failed Latin countries.

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>>138750432
no i hate trump actually

>>138743343
A serious answer:

They claim its racist to require IDs, because black people are disproportionately affected by the requirement. Its actually pretty racist of Democrats to believe that black people dont possess the ability to go and get an ID card.

The real reason they oppose ID card requirements is the fact that illegal immigrants disproportionately vote Democrat.

>>138750401
>So who are these people that are so oppressed to be asked to produce an ID (which they undoubtedly already have) in order to vote?

People that don't exist

>>138743423
This.

>>138749326

why do you talk as if vote suppression is some taboo?

you suppress votes already for those who arent old enough to vote, for those who arent of sound mind, why not suppress it for those who have no legal standing in your country?

>>138743343
Libshit reporting in. Answer: because GOP thrives when voting access is more difficult. Urban wait time for polls can be 1-3 hours in some places

http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/analysis/2015/04/16/north-carolina-releases-study-on-wait-times
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/us/politics/waiting-times-to-vote-at-polls-draw-scrutiny.html?mcubz=1

I would trade voter ID laws in exchange for: free state ID with instant voter registration, and regulated numbers of voting machines / polling staff per population density per square mile. But since state legislatures in Ohio and North Carolina will never do that, why put any additional barriers between the voter and the poll where none previously existed?

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>>138750523
>It's definitely not Democrats who advocate for mass immigration

They don't.


Immigration even fell slightly under Obama.

I swear to god u right wing retards are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet.

You honestly must love getting massacred by me.

Trump is the one bringing in more foreign workers >>138750592

>>138743343
Democrats know that we have transcripts of conversations between Hillary and what's her face, Wasserman Schultz (?), where they discuss how to manipulate the polls by using the lack of voter ID and dead voters on the rolls
Democrats are just looking out for their own
"Party before country" is the Democratic party motto

>>138750713
Fucking racist. You don't care that blacks are too stupid and lazy to apply for free government ID?!

>>138750522
he it notorious for doctoring his videos

lol u fucking retard

>impersonating a federal agent

he would impersonate a federal agent, literally a fucking crime, but he wouldn't doctor a video?

holy shit u right wing retards are hilarious

Why are Republicans helping Democrats helping sweep this massive fraud under the rug? Where are the court cases? Just like Pizzagate amirite?

I don't issue why this is an issue, we don't need ID here but registered on a list, you give your name and address when you vote and it's checked against the list the staff here at the polling station and get crossed off. You do need to give your national insurance number when you register so not just anyone can register.

What do you do in US now, just turn up?

>>138750823
Additional sauce
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article109369072.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/08/voting-polls-election-day/93201770/

>>138743343
If IDs cost money, it's a poll tax.

Propose free automatic IDs and we can talk

>>138743343
Because they are racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

>>138750823
>why put any additional barriers between the voter and the poll where none previously existed?
because people who purposefully skirt the responsibilities of the social contract shouldnt decide who gets elected

>>138750833
>he doesn't know that BASED BILL tripled legal immigration quotas and oversaw the explosion of illegal spic immigration

>>138750823
>Urban wait time for polls can be 1-3 hours in some places
Lines at Disneyland are longer. If some stupid fucking nigger can't wait 90 minutes to elect the fucking person that will control the free world, then they don't deserve to vote.

>>138743343
Just because you're an idiot do we have to explain every, little thing?

>>138750973
In my precinct it's basically the same - provide address and name, sign name then be pointed to the polling booth / station. In most places voter fraud would be kind of a PITA this way, GOP just likes to whine and gnash their teeth basically.

>>138750763
someone give this based taconigger a greencard

>>138750429
-Driver's Licenses cost money
-There is no evidence whatsoever of even mild voter fraud that would necessitate limits on voting
-Historical efforts to limit the black and poor vote (look up "poll taxes")

Politicians on both sides do this all the time. They come up with a way to get a practical result they want (less poor people voting Dem), then sell it as something else entirely, usually based on rhetoric and ideals over pragmatics (We closed the polling station to save money! Every voter should be properly ID'd to prevent the [nonexistent] fraud!)

Any American who paid attention when learning about Jim Crow should understand why voter ID laws are verboten.

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>>138751090
Holy shit I swear to god u fake news right wing retards actually must love getting annihilated by me.

I debunk your bullshit in 2 seconds bro. Why do u even bother with your lies?

Legal immigration fell under Based Bill as well.

>>138750955
He would impersonate an agent to get a video of agents talking about criminality for a story. That is his job as an investigative journalist.

>Notorious for doctoring videos
I like to see the evidence of that rather than twitter just saying he does, and if his recent videos were doctored you would be able to prove it and the people wouldn't have been fired.

>no court case
Because they just say that is the employees opinions and not ours, and fired them.

>>138743343

put those toes in my mouth

>>138743343
How about everyone is registered as soon as they're born and you're required to vote once you reach 18.

No vote you pay a fine, say $100.

>>138751048
NC already passed free ids for poor people. Apparently it was racist because niggers are too stupid to apply for them. Though it doesn't seem to stop them from applying for every other gimmedat

>>138751048
Say free automatic IDs are granted.
What say you now? IDs are still racist?
Shocker.

>>138750833
>Immigration even fell slightly under Obama.
imagine not knowing a flux of a few thousand is irrelevant when talking about a million

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>>138751152
>working two jobs today
>instead of eating lunch I'm standing in this fucking line to vote
>oops lunch break is over gotta leave the line and not vote or I'll get fired
Yeah, fuck that guy, he didn't deserve representation.

>>138743343
Nice toes

>>138743343
The only explanation is that they know that they cheat and are ok with it.
Every other explanation they have given ignores the fact that valid IDs are easy to obtain and extremely inexpensive if you are an actual citizen.
They make heartfelt claims about poor people and shit, but at the heart of it they know the excuse is invalid and even the poor could go to a DMV and get one, and lazy people who won't even put in that much effort should not be voting in the first place.

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>>138751090
>he doesn't know that BASED BILL tripled legal immigration

you fucking retard >>138751231

why do u right wing retard expose yourselves as fake news mongrels?

added pic for trigger effect

ill brb

>>138751152
It shouldn't be easier for a suburban citizen making $60,000 a year to vote, vs an urban service economy worker making $7.25 an hour. The former can just use PTO, the latter may get fired for showing up late.

Universal mail in ballots would also be a good solution IMO. Added benefit is that these systems can end up cheaper in the long haul. I think OR and CO already have this in place.

>>138751384
So u admit that right wing retards are fucking morons for thinking there was a mass immigration explosion under Obama

>>138743766
She's hot, for some reason I'm starting to realize that tattoos really just ruin women

>>138751404
So just make voting day a national holiday

>>138743343
You verify ID when you register to vote. Why is that confirmation invalid? Who is checking ID's? What are the chances that if you're going to the trouble to fake vote, you'll go out and get a fake ID.

JESUS CHRIST ARE YOU A FUCKING CHILD?!

>>138751419
>lazy people
I love when fat NEETs spending their 9-5 shitposting on 4chan call people literally too busy slaving away making minimum wage to wait hours at the DMV "lazy"

>>138750221
>she

>>138744084
>October 29th
In the primary?

>>138751518
Its federal law to allow your employees time to vote on election day.

>>138751646
Dems would fucking love for voting day to be a national holiday, and they'd also love free ID's mailed to every citizen, and they'd also love automatic voter registration

Until those things happen, enforcing an ID law is voter suppression. It's a literal poll tax.

>>138751646
GOP would stall and bitch about GDP loss and other nonsense. I believe this has been in the DNC platform for a while though.

Democrats want to win by hook or by crook. They know voter fraud is real, they just don't give a fuck like honey badgers.

>>138751228
>money
even if your state government cant come up with a way to give voter IDs for free (like ours can), your ONGs can still help subsidize it and inform people about it

>no evidence
I KNOW illegals there who vote. I dont know if there is "mass fraud", but microfraud is a thing and its ongoing for decades.

>historical
stop pursepuppying blacks. they dont need whitey's help anymore

If want me to understand why voted ID is taboo you need to explain it. We didnt have slavery so we arend raised to feel guilty about niggers.

>>138743343
It's mostly because illegals and people that can't drive..

Ironically the Daily Show disproved the liberal arguement that blacks couldn't get into the pols or didn't know they could vote

Really makes you think...

>>138751647

stfu faggot. Most states can have you register to vote by mail without ever having to show an ID. The Democrats are against Voter ID because they'd then lose 100% of the elections for the next 3000 years.

>>138751231
Neither legal nor illegal immigration fell under Clinton. NAFTA is still one of the biggest driving forces for illegal immigrants. You idiots love spics and niggers, yet you act like we're the retards. Keep flooding the country with the only idiots who are stupid enough to vote left. You've already ruined the cities.

>>138751348
>>138751346
honestly what we need is an official National ID. Social Security numbers already have 80% of this functionality with none of the security involved... if we could just get everyone a national ID card at birth, it'd be a lot easier. Then I'd totally support IDs for voting. And I do support the NC program as it is.

>>138751732
Doesn't require compensation and I don't think your average hourly employee knows much about reporting a FEC violation.

>>138751664
Cool cherry picked and incorrect ad hom without discussing any substance you shallow faggot, but to address the only thing even close to substance in your post I'll say this. I've been to a number of different DMVs many times in my life, and I've never once waited more than 30 minutes to be served, so eat shit.

>>138751732
That's incorrect. There is no federal law regarding work hours and voting.

Several states have very poorly written laws that are easy to circumvent which require businesses to allow unpaid absence for a small window of time given a number of requisite circumstances.

If businesses were forced to let everyone vote on paid leave without repercussion then dems wouldn't be bitching about closing polling stations and long wait times

>>138751664
You need an ID to pass e-verify to even get a job. There's no excuse for not having an ID.

>>138750823
>Answer: because GOP thrives when voting access is more difficult. Urban wait time for polls can be 1-3 hours in some places

AY YO
HOL UP
*smacks lips*
You're telling me that incompetent niggers funneling a sea of other pavement apes to the pollin' boof (without dancing, or flinging feces) is anything less than organized?

>>138751818
>If want me to understand why voted ID is taboo you need to explain it.
I'm not going to give you a history lesson. Wiki Jim Crow you lazy fuck.

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>>138749998
>Someone who opposes government corruption and misconduct is criminalized by the government

Activates the fuck out of my Goddamn almonds.

But in all serious, ObamaLeafNigger clearly has no ability to actually refute the admissions of misconduct by the democrats, and is obviously ignoring the growing pile of evidence for an increasingly large number of wrongful voter registrations.

>>138746198
They can

>>138751996
National ID is opposed by both Freedom caucus wankers and Democrat civil liberties advocates. The former because it's an over reach of federal authority and because it's like, a mark of the beast / sign of the tribulations or something. The latter because it might be used to restrict movement or some other such nonsense.
Agree though.

>>138752137
>I've literally never interacted with a black person in an urban area
cool story, bro

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>>138743760
>leaf/ahmed
discarded

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>>138752205
you do realize that so far it seems the main and pretty much only argument against voter IDs remains "muh slavery"

>>138751778
Well that sounds fine, but you do realise almost everyone has an ID, right?
How much do they cost 10 quid?
Seems a small price to pay to be able to buy liquor and vote for your country, but I don't see a problem with getting a free ID, somehow I very much doubt that would get passed by a republican or democrat government.

>>138743343
A significant percentage of the white majority of Americans tend to vote more for Republicans as they get older, Dems know this so they need as much voter fraud and illegal votes as they can get.
Democrats stack the deck with dead voters and brown proto-socialists because they know their policies are too retarded to convince white people once they've obtained some wisdom and seen how the world works.

>>138752042
>implying most democrats are even employed

You have two weeks of early voting, vote by mail, and 13 hours of voting on election day. There's no excuse.

>>138752160

This. I had to vote in downtown dallas, the 18 year old sheboon helping out her geriatric grandmother and 5 sub Saharan friends all frequently took breaks to literally "jam" to her fucking iPod.

>>138752160
Honestly you should just drink bleach. Majority of the poll workers in my precinct are black and they keep shit running pretty damn smooth. Problem arises when shitty state governments won't actually fund the correct number of polling stations.

>>138751228
>-There is no evidence whatsoever of even mild voter fraud that would necessitate limits on voting
Don't even need to prove citizenship to get state issued driver's license in California.

California votes democrat.

More votes for Hillary in Detroit than actual registered voters.

Almonds Activated.

How else can they have millions of illegals vote?

>>138752321
Who aren't they able to get ID cards? They need ID cards to get gimmedats.

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>>138743343
https://youtu.be/odB1wWPqSlE

It's to get the illegals to the voting booth.

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>>138752504

I'm sure they have the most stringent and arduous tests for assuring voting integrity.

>>138743343
Because they cheat like motherfuckers.

>>138752561
This is what happens when you fucking retards get your news from /pol/ instead of reading the fucking article yourself.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/12/15/detroit-election-problems/95477456/

Do you 12 year old tards not know that OP is a paid RNC operative.

Regular people don't start threads on message boards about how great voter id is.

>>138752398
>you do realize that so far it seems the main and pretty much only argument against voter IDs remains "muh slavery"
It's really not, but you refuse to educate yourself on the relevant history, so I guess it doesn't matter either way.

>>138752405
>Well that sounds fine, but you do realise almost everyone has an ID, right?
Except for certain groups (inner city blacks, poor immigrants) that disproportionately do not have ID's. Oh hey and those groups also disproportionately vote Dem. What a coincidence!

>>138752449
>two weeks of early voting
Which repubs in every state continually attempt to cut or reduce, and varies state to state
>vote by mail
Again, this is by state.
>13 hours on election day
during work hours

Even if there weren't any caveats to that shit, you're still arguing for a measure to fight "widespread fraud" that doesn't exist and will certainly result in blue counties going red.

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>>138749494
>t. triggered salt-leftist

>>138752652
>They need ID cards to get gimmedats
No, you don't need everyone in your family to have a driver's license to qualify for welfare.

Statistics say a full 25% of voting-age blacks lack any photo ID.

>>138753023
>but you refuse to educate yourself on the relevant history,

i refuse to educate myself on history that is irrelevant to me and if there was some smoking gun, im sure you could summarize it on a paragraph

your faction needs a new gimmick desperately, you wont be able to rely on white guild once hispanics and asians ourbreed them

>>138752786
>niggers riot and scare all whites and industry out of Detroit
>still blame their problems on whitey

>>138753023
If you're too stupid to figure out how to get an ID, then you shouldn't be voting.

>>138753141
Then apply for an ID. Holy hell, they're even free from the government. I thought niggers love handouts?

>>138752504
I thought lines in urban areas took 1-3 hours? Now you're saying the "urbanites" kept the place running smoothly?

Have an ID, it's not fucking hard. There's no excuse whatsoever to not have one in this society. The lines at the polling place are not in question.

>>138743343
Because requiring a voluntary ID to vote is a voting tax and undermines democracy.
If the state wants to require a voter ID they have to be willing to pay for one for every adult that is voting age.

>>138747831
>Since the Supreme Court struck down a key pillar of the Voting Rights Act in 2013, more than a dozen Republican-controlled state legislatures have passed a wave of laws that restrict when, where, and how people can cast a ballot.

OMG! Can you believe you can't vote in your own home and bring your own ballot boxes to be counter??? FASCISTS!

>>138753023
>inner city black and immigrants don't have IDs
Racist

Could have something to do with messing up their voter fraud system that has worked so well for so many years. Example-a voting district in California had 144% of voting age adults registered to vote. %124 DID vote. Heh.

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>>138743343
Is the police officer asking for your drivers license when you're sitting behind the wheel 'driver suppression'?

>>138751346
>Apparently it was racist because niggers are too stupid to apply for them.

Honestly? We all know this is the problem. Democrats know damn well that huge swathes of their voter base consists of low-agency unmotivated individuals with little or no sense of civil engagement.

Voter ID amounts to a simple check to see if you actually give a shit about voting, and that's fine. There is nothing wrong with a civil shit test for the electorate. I do not want people who can't be bothered to do more than ride the SorosBus to the polling place and fill in a bubble to have any say over my life or property.

>>138751404
>Voting on lunch break

Just go in the evening, faggot. As long as you're in line when the polling place closes, they are legally required to let you vote.

>>138752405
>How much do they cost 10 quid?

And they already wave that cost if you're getting gibs.

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>>138753639
>OMG! Can you believe you can't vote in your own home and bring your own ballot boxes to be counter??? FASCISTS!

>>138753564
Illegals, felons and dead people voting, somehow don't undermine democracy.

>>138753564
why is a proof of group membership restriction undermining democracy any more than age and health restrictions do when it comes to voting?

>>138753023
>Muh inner city blacks have no ID to vote
But they got ID to buy their Cognac, black and milds, and newports.

>>138753939
Exactly it's pure bullshit to apply to racist part of the white mind, that unconsciously sees these people as inferior and childlike

>>138753796

The more people vote, the more democratic it is.

The only thing more democratic than criminals voting is Guillotines.

>>138743343
>Why are Democrats so against voters needing to have IDs? Does it not make sense that every voter should have records and identification?

>>138743423

Even the lazy niggers have ID. You have to have ID to get gibs. Democrats are against ID because it could limit illegal aliens voting. Illegals have IDs, usually stolen, to get gibs, but they aren't going to risk those gibs just to vote.

The average dummiecrat believes their hive mind that tells them republicans are just racist as a reason for not wanting IDs.

>>138753369
>Holy hell, they're even free from the government
They're not.

>>138754209
>usually stolen
poor burgers voluntarily sell their IDs and ss numbers too. the way illegals need it, its just for a one-off paperwork thing

>>138753727

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

>>138754105
>statistics are bullshit
Gotta love that anti-intellectual streak.

Fuck data, I've got circular rhetoric!

>>138754431

Wrong!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/22/14-million-illegals-working-stolen-social-security/

>>138754443
>Can you believe you can't vote in your own home and bring your own ballot boxes to be counter

You're fucking retarded you know that right

>>138743423

how to stop non US citizens from voting. voter IDs. its not rocket science

>>138754639
Why the fuck would an illegal risk making 1 vote and get deported? Do u right wing retards think thru your autism and mental illness at all?

>>138753915
proof is subjective
At current you have to register to vote, show up to your designated polling station based on address and sign your name swearing you are who you say you are.
To a liberal like me, that is enough a burden of proof given there is virtually no evidence of voter fraud.
If paranoid retards want more security, raise tax revenue to pay for a citizen ID for everyone 18 and above

>>138754522
So why are the IQ and murder statistics bullshit when it comes to blacks?
Why am I a racist for even pointing them out but you can use them as a mainstream reason the not allow voter IDs and think that is not?

>>138743343
Votes from illegals of course.

>>138754639
wrong about what?
i bought SS info directly from a junkie when i lived in San Diego so i could at some shitty korean motel and drive there
people do sell them

>>138754657
>You're fucking retarded you know that right
>a canadian making that assessment

The articles even stated that a number of people left the lines early. They weren't prevented from voting, it just wasn't important enough for them to stick around to vote.

>>138754754
please kill yourself. and make it painful

>>138754780
Because correlation doesn't equal causation.
Blacks are poor, and we know poor people commit crime.
Unless you can control for an obvious flaw saying 'black are criminals' just comes off as stupid.

>>138754522
You can't pander to a small group of people that refuse to get identification and endanger the entire electorate.
Until these mythical free ID laws come in (which they never will) these people will have to pay the 10 quid if they want to vote.

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>>138754880
Here in Canada, you just go and vote. There are rarely if ever any lines. Making black people wait 8 hours to vote is literally voter suppression you retarded mongoloid. You right wing retards know that most Americans vote Democratic because the Republicans serve only the wealthy elites and billionaire globalists so u have to stop Americans from voting.

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>>138754780
>So why are the IQ and murder statistics bullshit when it comes to blacks?
I didn't know you had brought any up! Silly me, not addressing things you never said!

>>138754739
Without being forced to produce a valid ID there is no risk. Willing to bet too, that the highest concentrations of illegal votes also coincide with 'sanctuary city' policy.

Fuckin leafs

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>>138755090
>not preventing poor black people from voting is "endangering the entire electorate"

>>138755212
>not understanding that mass voter fraud is a bigger factor

>>138754754
>proof is subjective
i can see why "i swear im burger"-like "proof" can be subjectively evaluated
but if its backed by an official document it suddenly becomes a lot more objective, no matter how much you disagree with the existence of said document

it sounds to me that on one hand, you gleefully want to blame russia for manipulating your election indirectly while simultaneously supporting actual physical means to cheat on it

>>138755182
>willing to bet
So you have no data

You're literally making shit up because you think it sounds right

>>138755280
>"""""Mass voter fraud"""""
Literally no evidence. Fuck. Off.

>>138755280
There is no mass voter fraud in the USA.

If you wish to refute this claim provide actual serious evidence of mass voter fraud. Not a project veritas video.

>>138754739

Because it isn't really a risk; voter registration doesn't have much in the way of enforcement, and prosecuting for voter fraud is extraordinarily difficult in the majority of cases.

California, in fact, gives illegals driver's licenses (800,000 at last count) and automatically registers everyone to vote when then receive their license according to the state “motor-voter” law (AB 1461). They consider it the responsibility of illegal aliens to not vote.

Once you, Illegal Mestizo #492,039, are registered to vote, there is no risk to actually casting a vote. You're on the voter rolls; how are they going to check?

Also, Obongo tole them to vote on at least one occasion, and assured them they wouldn't be caught.

>>138755326
>>138755360
>>138755395
Holy shit.

Looks like ShariaBlue just got the memo

>>138755602
to steal a phrase from the dumbest among you:
"not an argument"

THOSE WHO DIDNT SERVE THE MILITARY
SHOULDNT EVEN HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE

>be a low iq shitskin, 100% unproductive
>be lazy and entitled, sheltered leftist studying underwater basket weaving at university, 100% unproductive
>be jealous of the people with superior genes and work ethic
>rob them trough increasing taxes (they cant tax you cos there's nothing to tax) and welfare (which you are a sole benefactor of)

they need to make a system where if you didnt pay x in taxes, you cant vote
leftists and shitskins pay 0 in taxes

>>138755141
>Making black people wait 8 hours to vote is literally voter suppression you retarded mongoloid.

black people getting to vote is voter suppression

>>138755360
but the god emperor and said it was habbening xD
awoo praise kek

>>138755075
>blacks are poor, that's why they're more likely to be criminals
So why are the richest blacks more criminal than the poorest whites?
I never said all blacks are criminals, I said the stats that show black people are more likely to be criminals and with every other factor removed (except muh racism) this is true.
When every other factor is removed that is not correlation.

>>138755161
Because you seem to think your stats showing black people as incompetent are more acceptable that others

>>138755360
Because the states that are guilty of voter fraud (like california) refuse to divulge the records.... which is basically an admission of guilt to facilitating voter fraud, is there something they're hiding maybe?

>>138755735
Well you're ALL pretty dumb:
"MADAME PRESIDENT"

>>138755360
>>138755395
If there was evidence they wouldn't be doing a very good job now would they.
I'm pretty sure Obama called on illegals to vote a while back did he not? Why isn't he in prison for incitement?

I think i know how to fix libbies not wanting voter Id laws:

Make a campaign to promote russians and polish people going to the USA just to vote for trump during the next election. Have them what hispanics do.

>>138755326
that's how right wing retards operate. it's all muh feels

>>138743343
Your democrats like Europe and want you to be like Europe right?
Well, to vote in my country and (i think) every other country you need to be a citizen and present your ID card so they can mark that you voted (so you cant vote again)
Basic shit. Tell them that.
Also, ID proves identity, duh

>>138755771
Making black people wait 8 hours to vote is literally voter suppression you retarded mongoloid.

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>>138756063
thanks obamaleaf I needed that laugh

>>138743423
Fpbp

>>138754739
they can't be deported in a sanctuary city

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>>138744444

>>138743343
Libertarians also against. It that makes it any easier for you to understand.

>>138743343
It's so pedro and his 16 children can vote in 20 different stations. We technically don't have IDs here but you do have to go to a specific place and you're put down on list beforehand.

>>138743343
They think blacks are too stupid to get a drivers license. True story.

>>138743492
If nations as dirt poor as Nigeria and India can hold elections with voter ID then there's no excuse for fucking Basketball Americans and Chorzicans.

>>138755837
>Because the states that are guilty of voter fraud (like california) refuse to divulge the records
Sorry, are you referring to literally every state refusing the insane request that they provide the president with a list of every voter and who they voted for?

Are you familiar with the concept of a SECRET ballot?

>>138756375
There are enormous numbers of functionally illiterate people in Black states. It's true.

>>138743343
Democrats are communists and unamerican, anon. They seek to buy votes to keep happy jew kike globalist overlords in power. Only zyklon can help them to see the light, just before it is extinguished in their eyes.

>>138743736
Who the fuck doesn't have ID in today's day and age? Ami Horowitz interviewed a bunch of niggers who didn't know anyone without ID. Literally the only people without ID are illegal or dead.

>>138756444
How about the very sane request for the list of every voter? To see who should have voted and how serious the problem is. That is reasonable and protects the secrecy of the ballot.
>But it's infinitely easier to blame Russian hacker boogeymen.

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>>138746844
>popular vote
>pretending there is such a thing as a "popular vote"

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you have a mental illness.

>>138756866
>How about the very sane request for the list of every voter?
That request doesn't exist. The voter fraud commission asked for names, addresses, SSNs, and entire voting history.

>>138743572
States with closed primaries keep record of your party registration and states with open primaries keep record of which party's primary you voted in. All of them keep records of your registration, address, and voting history. It has to be public to prevent fraudulent registration and voting.

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>>138756938
right wing retard doesn't know what popular vote is

holy shit u morons are degrading

>>138743423
This. And this only, as it has always been.

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>>138744444
Checked and getting out of the way.

>>138750429
Because the people who don't have ID in the US fall into one of two categories:

1. Illiterate negroes
2. Illegal aliens

Republicans want neither voting because they vote almost exclusively Democrat, and because the second group doesn't have the right to vote. Democrats want both voting because it benefits them.

Because they know that their voting base is too stupid to get ID, but just smart enough to remember to check the box labeled "Democrat" on the ballot so they can get their gibs

>>138743343
You don't need an ID to vote in America? Anybody can just walk off the street and vote? What the fuck?

>>138758433
No, you have to pre-register weeks in advance and show up at your designated voting station

>>138758433
You need to be registered to vote, which requires a valid SSN.

>>138743423
/thread