Backup for EU

>>138722648
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Seas_Initiative
>wiki/Three_Seas_Initiative
>Three_Seas_Initiative
>Three_Seas
>Tri Moreta

Aййййй caкън aфepим мapaбa aлъшвepиш aйaйaййaйaйaййa мaйнaaaaaaaaa

But anyways, its just an elaborate way to get in war with Russia and lose.
Its literally a non-western backed wall around Russia, and half the states in that wall have territorial pretensions towards Russia or Russian aligned territories.
Clear geopolitical clash, without strong backing.

I rate it 2/10, only giving points because 1. We deserve it, and 2. Poland deserves it twice.

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>>138722861

It has backing from the Chinese and from Donald Trump.

>>138722861
>Aййййй caкън aфepим мapaбa aлъшвepиш aйaйaййaйaйaййa мaйнaaaaaaaaa
бaти цигaнинa дeт cи дeйбa

>>138722648
looks like mejdumorie 2.0 to me

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>>138722861
Liu Haixing

>>138722648
bullshit
leave us out

>>138723045
I don't speak Cyka could you please speak english

>>138723166
I meant Międzymorze/Intermarium 2.0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium

>>138723137
fuck off Plenkovic

>>138722648
Lets be honest, the only reason why Austria is in it because we need a direct landroad to Switzerland.

>>138722648
>TRI MORETA

>>138723166
It was an interwar Polish nationalist idea of forming an anti-Russian coalition from all former German, Austro-Hungarian and Russian territories that fell off these empires after WW1.
Basically Poland wanting buffer states and more manpower to secure its independence.

>>138723439
Yea ok I read something about this.
But this time it's backed by superpowers not some evil western european cucks

>>138722648
>Or just bullshit ?
bullshit

Europe will descend into chaos before anything is built

>>138722648
>No Greece (strongest army in the east)
It's like they want to lose

>>138723254
why do you like poverty?
commie

>>138723664
>Greece (strongest army in the east)
Just because they spend the most money on overpriced helicopters and subs, doesn't mean they have any military tradition or expertise. There is more to war than throwing dollars around.
I would not consider Greece a factor unless you want a naval war in the eastern Med sea, which this map doesn't consider.

>>138722648
>split Europe between African and European ancestry majority (Finland not included)

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>>138722648
*teleports behind you*
we wuz kangz n shiet

>>138723137
now worries, cucks and soros shills will be thrown out

>>138722648
Without Ukraine and Belarus (doesn't matter how you feel about them) this union would fail. Territorial integrity is imperative. Basically evolve into the Intermarium, a federation of sorts.

>>138723730
Greece has a Germany-tier military at the moment

Why do you think they're in debt? They didn't spend the money on souvlaki and ferraris. All that money went to build up an army that could take on Turkey after they took north Cyprus.

Greece armed up very well. Including Bulgaria, Romania and leaving out Greece is retarded.

>>138724013
In 20 years Ukraine will be as european as we are now. Belarus im not so sure. Putinka would probably not let it go.

>>138722973
If it has backing from the two rivals of the EU at the same time, then the intentions of this are clearly D&C. Think, you dumb idiots, and stop falling for D&C.

>>138723787
>look at where the romans collected tax
>paint every other piece of land blue
>call it poland

HA HA WE WUZ AND YOU CAN'T PROVE OTHERWISE

>>138724112
>Greece has a Germany-tier military at the moment

Germany is a disarmed country, occupied by France, UK and USA.

>>138724112
the greeks have nothing in common with us, and it would fuck up the name, then it would have to be 4 seas, and 4 c toghether triggers some ... bad memories.

>>138724143
Rivals or Partners.

The only good country there is Austria, the rest are filth.

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>>138724112
>Greece has a Germany-tier military at the moment
>germany has been disarmed since ww2

>>138724132
lol
ukraine is a corrupt shithole, the mentality of the people is a tragedy.

>>138724132
Huilo is not very liked now in Belarus too. And not having them onboard would leave a massive hole in the unions defenses.

>>138724245
Rivals. No matter what you hear neither the Americans nor the Chinese want a third global power to exist. They're quite comfortable being the only two

>>138722648
It is, slavs need to preserve white culture

>>138723787

>frisians

we in here

>>138724407
im content not being a world power if it means they quit showing this kind of propaganda down my throat

>>138724548
and by this kind of propaganda i mean western degenarcy

>>138724267
20 years ago poland was a corrupt shithole as well. The same for every xsoviet state.

>>138724414
The northern bit in not Slavic at all.

>>138724752
neither are austrians and hungarians, but we are culturarly somwhat similar

I don't really want big unions.

Take Yugoslavia as an example. Most of them were slavs, yet they all started killing each other at the end of it.
A small union, similiar to V4 would be nicer. I would like Croatia and Slovenia in.

>>138724548
>im content not being a world power
No you're not. The moment that happens all the current wages drop drastically and your population will proceed to migrate to either Western Europe or the US, causing your economy to shrink and wages to drop further. No one was happy under the poor conditions of the Soviet Bloc which caused the eventual collapse of everyone inside it, no one will be happy in a Soviet Bloc lite either and nor will they be happy when their cute alliance collapses because it cannot survive in a modern world.

No German or French or English or anyone at all would EVER invest in those lands before their own, especially if your culture becomes hostile to them which will happen if you quit the EU like that. Here's the trick - they're the ones with the money, while you are not. THINK you dumb idiot

>>138724871
union would be a mistake, just trade and border security cooporation would be perfect

>>138722648
Leave us out of this Jean-Pierre

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>>138724871
Don't you want to have Austria in it, it will work out perfectly, I swear.

>>138723968
ofc
that's why this won't happen

>>138724979
Yeah. Current V4 just a bit bigger would suit me the best.

Only way such thing could become reality is backup of USA as first world power - should national conservativism win in USA with Trump (unlikely), it is possible that they will try to implement wedge like this between Germany and Russia.

>>138724990
We need you for your penis shapped pathway to Switzerland.

>>138725094
Switzerland won't give you any money

>>138724199
>Germany is a disarmed country, occupied by France, UK and USA.
Nowadays it's Turkey, Syria and USA, desu

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>>138722648
So is this like the fallback plan when Western Europe goes full durka durka?

>>138725051
>Yeah. Current V4 just a bit bigger would suit me the best.
And what exactly does the lands inside have to offer? Strategic resources, oil, or maybe a highly-educated population? No, probably there's a lot of capital inside or a massive production of technology like South Korea/Japan? No I get it, it probably has a widespread reputation for its banking sector and a lot of people will transfer their money to it.

God you anti-EU cucks are fucking retarded. How do you manage to fall for such obvious D&C

>>138724948
they wont be the ones with the money for long if they continue to take in unskilled, unmotivated to work people in, there is a limit to how much welfare leeches a country can support before it starts colapsing

>>138725176
We will give switzerland our money, lmao.

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>>138722648
> Backup for EU
?
This is exact the opposite to the EU, this is mostly an American project that aims to be a counterbalance to the EU lead by Germany and to Russia. And since the West doesn't want to cooperate with Israel, they chose Eastern Europe instead.
The whole idea of this that it will serve American interest in Europe, and remember
America == Israel
while
EU == zionists

if romania is not in charge of this thing then we're not interested

>>138725266
Shiet

>>138725266
Poatoes are not a currency, Lithuaniabro

>>138725239
of course its d&c, but it might be better for us, at current rate, its only a matter of time before germany institutes the eu army and then starts enforcing refugee qotas on us, we cant even support our own people at the moment

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>>138722648
>literally TPИ MOPETA

>>138725239
Did I write anything about leaving EU faggot?
A bigger V4 could say bigger "fuck off" to EU, yet it would stay in EU and parasite off germans.

>>138724132
In 20 years half of Ukraine will be Polish and the other half Russian

>>138725323
Romania will be in charge of cleaning the toilets as always, dont worry

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>>138722861
USA and China would prefer it over EU.

>>138722861
this basically, also its really ugly looking and jews love it

>>138724708
Vytautas, please. 20 years ago we were almost as poor as ukraine and now we are 3 times poorer than Germany while they are 5 times poorer than us

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>>138725401
>Yukon GOLD (potato)

I beg to differ

>>138725288
>And since the West doesn't want to cooperate with Israel

L M A O
M
A
O

>>138725431
half russian maybe, half polish ? no way. Half of Ukraine will stay "independant".

>>138722861
desu it more looks like a russian backed buffer wall to keep western europe and (((Nato))) cucks from fucking with them

just a neutral border which is fine i gues

>>138725972
>russian backed
>includes countries that hate russia and want russian land

>>138725438
I'm not interested in stealing Polish job, but I am interesting in stealing your wallet

No fucking way there's ever going to be a union between those countries. It's unlikely to be about a global power either. Every decent person in Eastern Europe wants to keep Russians out and welcome the West in. That's all these talks are about and of course China and the US are more than happy to support anything which might tighten the knot around Russia's neck one day.

It looks more like a "let's have a plan together if Russia starts going crazy". You know, share military intel, conduct joint military operations, try and strengthen infrastructure, have some kind of plan together. NATO is fucking unreliable, talk is cheap and everybody hates Russians.

>>138725288
It is actually clash between globalist ("left") and sionist ("right") jews. And Germans dont care as long as they get their Reich.

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>>138725438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L1HfiIOgBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pCezjeU0ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtN2gIKBHW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Oyzt_AGl-U

>>138726136
>Every decent person in Eastern Europe wants to keep Russians out and welcome the West in.
>welcome the West in
ahahahah

>>138726138
There is no left-right clash internationally.
Those are only clashes within a state.

Internationally, especially with the jews, its a secular/modern vs religions/traditional clash.

>>138725793
but this is exactly what Israeli PM told us a few months ago, that they don't want to cooperate with Israel

>>138725893
> Half of Ukraine will stay "independant".
I think that you do not realize how tragically is demographic situation in Ukraine. In the past 25 years they lost 10M people, birth rate is shit, corruption everywhere, poor as fuck
20-30 years more and there will be no one left to defend it

> half polish
We just want Lwów + border with Hungary. Eventually we might visit Wilno and Inflanty afterwards

>>138726252
Fuck off to Moldova if you want to see what Russia's all about mate.

>>138726549
Is Moldova still in a Ukraine-like civil war, with some mountain-niggers across a river declaring themselves a Russian state?

>>138726549
fuck off to france if you want to see what the west is all about

>>138722648
V4 please exit the EU. Go back to being Russia's bit- err, I mean, satellite states. You're almost as bad as the Turks.

>>138726488
The polish great delusion. A poor persons only fantasy.

>>138726269
There is obvious clash on every level and what you wrote are just different words to describe left/right (which i put into quotes anyway).

>>138726632
Pretty much. Russians cucked the fuck out of that country and the propaganda keeps people in check saying the EU would exploit them even more.

>>138722648
Has any of those countries been a contributor to the EU? OK, Austria probably, but the others have almost certainly been takers.

>>138726982
>>138726640
>>138726549
>>138726252
>>138726212
>>138726136
>>138726136
Not all of us are fanatical cucks of Western Bankers and Multinationals
Not all of us are so deeply indoctrinated to believe that the Russian Federation is still the Soviet Union
Not all of us are blind to the fact that Euro-Asian union is the only solution for eliminating American Influence in Europe ( Wall street Banksters), and the Russian Federation and China are the primary forces in the fight against Globalism ( Anglo-American financial imperialism)

Not all of us are bluepilled about "the small rootless international clique"

This entire Intermarrium/ Three Seas initiative, is America's attempt of separating Europe from Russia.

According to George FRIEDMAN, the only combination that could challenge American power is a unification of German and Russian interests. To preclude this, US will insert itself in Eastern Europe and create a Polish block that will oppose both Russian and German interests.

Three Seas Initiative is a globalist creation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc

>>138727134
aaa, sunt Roman, asa ca va rugam sa va calmati

>>138726979
If left-right to you is secular-religious, you are missing out on a lot of politics.

>>138727134
>According to George FRIEDMAN, the only combination that could challenge American power is a unification of German and Russian interests. To preclude this, US will insert itself in Eastern Europe and create a Polish block that will oppose both Russian and German interests.

This, exactly this. The Intermarium/3seas/V4 are the US' attempt at extending the buffer state from Ukraine backwards to Poland and the others around it. Ukraine is most likely about to fall to Russia so they need an alternative, else the EU and Russia might get too friendly and start opposing the US

>stop
>falling
>for
>D&C

>>138723787
So I'm a jute?
This initiative seems good, tbqf

Fucking slovaks already backstabbing everyone to fuck up the plan

>>138727076
They contributed by selling everything economically worthwile to germans and providing them whole their market for free and workforce for cheap.

>>138726982
>exploit them even more
Which it most likely would, and on top of it it would also send them bunch of rapefugees.

>>138727134
>>138727190
>>138727134
>Three Seas initiative, is America's attempt of separating Europe from Russia.
de parca daca nu esti in ue nu esti in europa.
te uiti la vestici si vezi africa. ala e viitorul lor.
prefer sa mananc pamant tot restul vietii decat sa stau pe langa animalele alea.

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>>138726867
Cheer up, bro, Nostradamus predicted that Poland will become a great empire after the great war against muslims in the western Europe. And he was a jew. Don't you want to bring back the Commonwealth?

>>138722648

Yes Trump gave a speech at their meeting.

It's not that important though, seems like just a gathering of leaders so they can talk to each other. No major deals or anything.

>>138724199
Are you retarded? Germany has a world class military

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>>138722648
>>138722861
mfw

>>138727134
I never said it was "all of us", I just said that "every decent person" prefers the West over Russians any day of the week. If you still think Russia wants what's good for you and everything, you're either blind, unaware, stupid or simply shilling for Russians for whatever reason. Like I said, feel free to compare Romania to Moldova and see where 20 years of sucking dick to Russians gets you.

>>138727190
si esti pe linie cu PSD-ul cand vine vorba de retorica de cacat sa inteleg?

>>138727076
>le contributor meme
EE is the main squeeze for the WE. Are you naive enought to think that germany, france, etc. are giving away money for nothing?

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>>138722648
Just trying to get our old Reich back. And more.... MUHAHAHAHA

>>138722648
Gib sea access please. Being landlocked is suffering. At least I can go to Croatia.

>>138727918
>>138727928
Are you members of Identitarie with Martin?

>>138727778
Occidentul nu exista, este o imagine creata, un fals grotesc. Cine de fapt conduce sunt multinationalele is consortiile bancare, care depasesc suveranitatea statala.

Nu exista occident, ci evreii care conduc totul. Uite ce s-a intamplat in ultimii 20 ani, suntem o colonie de materii prime si forta de munca ieftine

In 1990-2015
Am pierdut mai multa industrie decat in 1940-1955
Am pierdut mai multa populatie datorita emigratiei in masa si prabusirea ratei natalitatii decat in perioada 1940-1955.
Am pierdut mai mult creer in exodul emigratiei decat am pierdut in 1940-1955 exterminati din motive politice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toUD_aQO-To

>>138728189
http://m.cotidianul.ro/vine-criza-stapanul-strain-si-vatafii-interni-pregatesc-urgia-asupra-romanilor-305723/

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>>138727518
Lad, i know that its YOUR delusion and all, but even a poor polak should know better than to believe in fairytales. Snap out of it, you support your fantasy by hoping that a future teller said something positive about your country.
In other words, reality is calling.

>>138728102
Not yet. But I am financing them already ;)

>>138722648
Why isn't Serbia in it?

>>138728700
You have to be a whore of the United States to be a member of the Three Seas Initiative.

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>>138723507
Intermarium was backed by us for your information. And it would have been a great way for those countries to defend themselves against Germany and Russia.

>>138728340
Frankly, Poland becoming a major power in the future is not a very unlikely prediction, if you take a look at the ethnicity of the Western Europe

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>>138728865
>france
>relevant in any way
ok

>>138728102
>>138727928

nope, but not having sea access is a fucking pain

>>138728797
Whores earn a lot more in the west than they do in the east tho.

>>138728797

t. stealth serb

>>138729017
It was before 1940.

Unfortunately they failed to retaint their independence after wwii and now they share the same faith as every one of us. Vassals for the "small rootless international clique"
>>138729076
actually vlach, but still, that is the painful truth, our countries are spineless vassals for American geo-political interests.

This initiative is designed against Russia.

>>138728946
>he fell for the meme
Ill say it like this, Poland has more chance of becoming a major power that western europe losing major power status.

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>>138727134
>According to George FRIEDMAN, the only combination that could challenge American power is a unification of German and Russian interests. To preclude this, US will insert itself in Eastern Europe and create a Polish block that will oppose both Russian and German interests.
I don't see anything wrong with this

>>138725407
It was the master plan all along.

>>138722648
CIA project to block Russia if the EU fails. Conservative option (3SI) to replace a liberal one (EU).

>>138730700
I have one. Russia has nukes and tri moreta doesn't. Enjoy your barbecue.

>>138730700
you are Polish
you are by definition the whores of the jews
you were in wwii
you were during the Russian empire
you were during napoleonic wars
I think last time when poland did not fight for the jews was Pilsudski

>>138730969
It just a glorified buffer zone meant to buy western Europe some time if Russia decides to make a move. Basically in first wave of attack it will be all slavs dying with a few austrians thrown in the mix.

>>138731316
you're retarded, poland is one of the most anti-semitic countries in europe right now

all we ever did was whatever it took for us to survive, playing the cards we were dealt

>>138730989
>implying russia will still exist in 30 years

>>138731701
>most-antisemitic
> fights for the jews

The main anti-globalist forces nowadays are Russia and China

Germany would like to join them
You ally USA to separate Russia and Germany

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>>138728458
>not having all the "benefits" from migration

Maybe some non-EU countries will join in the future.
Anyway intermarium or however you call it is the project for countries who don't want to have anything to do with Russia but also understand that western EU countries are a bit unhinged nowadays and kind of authoritarian.
For the first time in history Europe will be developing in the north-south direction. That is unless Germany sabotages the whole thing.

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>>138722648
It is bullshit.
Our Dearest Leader dreams of some kind of Israel of Central Europe under the auspices of the US, but it's never going to happen because we have no Jews and there is no oil for the taking in the area, and thank fucking God.

>>138731818
If you are so sure about that why do you want a buffer zone between you and them?

>>138732342
Is that the newest forced meme trend among the SokzBuraka fans?

nobody in eastern europe would want poland to be the leader of this 3 seas shit.

>>138731828
> China
Lul wut, the only reason of their industrial success is the backing of globalists. If globalists hadn't used use Asian countries to cut their expenses, Asians would have been on the level of African countries

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>>138725000
Sounds good to me, we should become a monarchy again while we're there.

>>138722648
Slavshits will never leave the eu they all would collapse when they have to take back the millions of people who immigrated to the west and more so when they can't send money back anymore
They need us more than we need them and they knowbit

>>138732790
Yes, but China is now National Communis,/ National Socialist

They are establishing a system of payments that bypasses the US dollar
They are establishing the BRICS bank in Shanghai to counter IMF influence
They are the main Economic competitor of the USA.

>>138732525
Nah, it's just your parents asked me to snap their pic in Tatry.

>>138730700
Alas, Russian is controlled by mafia who has no interest in success of the country they exploit, they only want to leech everything they could and move to their families in western countries.

>>138731828
>The main anti-globalist forces nowadays are Russia and China
Russia is a corrupt AIDS-ridden shithole with a historic record of turning anything they touch into shit. China is a wildcard, no one knows what the fuck they want
>You ally USA to separate Russia and Germany
No shit. What do you think will happen to us if they get together? Do you remember what happened the last time? We live on the corridor between them, and we're doing what we must to survive

>>138725438
Ahmed seems to dislike Romania, who would of thought?

>>138732942
> Yes, but China is now National Communis,/ National Socialist
They are the bloodiest capitalists America ever would be able to be. They have really tight connections between business and politics and it makes some people think that they are commies.
> They are establishing a system of payments that bypasses the US dollar
Every shithole country could do it, the thing is that nobody really care. They rant a lot, but it has zero effect.
> They are establishing the BRICS bank in Shanghai to counter IMF influence
Brics is a meme. Among 5 countries belonging to it only China and India are the ones which could have future, and they are not the ones who could be allies with each other.

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>>138733114
>Russia is a corrupt AIDS-ridden shithole with a historic record of turning anything they touch into shit. China is a wildcard, no one knows what the fuck they want

Russian empire fought against globalists
Jews used Polish nationalism as one of the many cards against Russia to destabilize it. If the Russian empire had succeded and not lost in the revolution, the Jews would not have taken control of Eastern Europe.

Also, Russia nowadays seems to be recovering from the post-Soviet collapse and attempting to wage an independent foreign policy. Their main geopolitical goal is removing USA influence from EUrope. I for one, agree, as Anglo-american influence in Europe over the past 100 years have only succeeded in destabilizing part against part, country against adversary, and from this strife create their power.

China is currently, the only country not infiltrated by Jews.

>No shit. What do you think will happen to us if they get together? Do you remember what happened the last time? We live on the corridor between them, and we're doing what we must to survive

You should have followed in the tracks of geo-politics set by Pilsudski, and attempted a normalisation of bilateral relation with Germany. Instead you decided to place your sovereignty in the words of the Perfidious Albion and golbalist financial Jews in the City of London.

>>138724979
You mean like EU started at first?

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>>138733534
>Every shithole country could do it, the thing is that nobody really care. They rant a lot, but it has zero effect.

Financial wars are the primary reason for geopolitical wars. Germany totally reformed its currency system in 1933 that allowed it the rapid economic recovery. They established a currency based on labour and not on gold, silver, oil

"Germany's unforgivable crime before the second world
war was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world's trading
system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world
finance its opportunity to profit." .- Winston Churchill.

China doing the same thing means they are preparing for the next major geopolitical struggle that will decide how the world will look for the next 70 years.

>>138733114
>Do you remember what happened the last time?
I do.
The Allies used us as a cannon fodder, then convinced our government to "ally" with invading Russians, then finally sold us out in Jałta since there was nothing left they could bleed us out of.
>We live on the corridor between them, and we're doing what we must to survive
If we did what it takes to survive, we would fucking ally with one of the powers that threaten us and together get rid of the other one instead of looking for exotic alliances and diplomatic games with faraway countries who couldn't give a fuck about some poor-ass country near Russia.

>>138733114
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3624433.html
Check this out. There is text in Russian, but images are bullshit of Polish newspapers of 1930s (in Polish). Nothing changes.

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>>138734071
>If we did what it takes to survive, we would fucking ally with one of the powers that threaten us and together get rid of the other one instead of looking for exotic alliances and diplomatic games with faraway countries who couldn't give a fuck about some poor-ass country near Russia.

So much this

in the 1930s, Poland had a chance of becoming an ally with Germany, certainly some Polish territory would have had to be renegotiated. An alliance with the Soviet Union was completely out of the question considering what the Soviet Union was: a militarized bolshevik state, mostly ruled by jews with a geo-political goal of spreading Communism throughout the world.

Germany respected Pilsudski for his handling of 1919-1921 war, and an alliance would have been possible.

Unfortunately Poland had 3 million jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo

>>138722648
yes please. fuck EU

>>138734062
> 9 Quotes From Winston Churchill That Are Totally Fake
Again, China has been fed by globalists since 80s. If they'd seen China as a threat, they woulda stop it long time ago, but they see it almost as their best ally.

>>138722648
It will be cool.

>>138734634
> 9 Quotes From Winston Churchill That Are Totally Fake

Everything that exposes the Jews, is Fake.

Certainly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r9Z-hTn1r4

>>138734071
Mate, your country had 35 mln population in 30s. You could've had decent defense if you'd wanted. Just look at what Finns did and they were much less numerous than you.

>>138734071
>>138734634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH-nBcrTwYI

>>138729232
I prefer the US to the EU tbqh famalam

What are they going to export? Women? Organs? Radiation poisoning? Genocide?

>>138734907
>Finns
Different evnvironment and geographic location here.
Plus, we were being invaded by two of the greatest European armies at the time, not just one. Also, there were skirmishes between commie partisans and Polish partisans, but the home army was under the orders not to attack or interfere with Soviets - up until 1944 I think when they were ordered to actually support the Soviet invasion, go figure.
Perhaps the point is this - when you have such a shitty address as Poland, you need exceptional people in charge to keep it together. And Piłsudski wouldn't live long enough.

>>138734907
>Mate, your country had 35 mln population in 30s. You could've had decent defense if you'd wanted. Just look at what Finns did and they were much less numerous than you.

Well, considering Poland's Eastern border is open flat-lands I doubt Poland could have done anything in the long run. Not even Germany could resist the Soviet Counter-attack from 1942 onwards.

>>138735016
There are several theories to the existance of the EU.

>The EU is the creation of the European politicians in an attempt to re-establish European sovereignty after WWII.

The only means of eliminating US influence is uniting in a economic-military- political block to counter American Influence
"NATO was created to keep Americans in, the Russian out, and the Germans down"

> second theory: European Union is the creation of internationalist Jews who wished to Control Europe from beyond the Ocean, from the United States.

Controlling every individual country would be difficult, so it makes sense to force some form of union, and controlling the EU from the center.

The sources seem to contradict themselves on which stage the EU is? EU attempt of European Sovereignty or EU,puppet of USA?
The United States, and its trojan horse in Europe, Great Britain, seem to utterly detest the European Union.

They cause the 2008 Economic crisis
They started the 2014 Ukrainian crisis
They might have started the refugee crisis ( refugees do not go to UK, but exclusively to Germany. It seems refugee crysis is weaponized migration aimed against Germany)

Video of Zionist politician saying fuck the EU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL_GShyGv3o


I do not know senpai, I mean the most globalist shit has come out of the (((City of London))) and UK, and USA in the xxth century.

I prefer some form of EU in friendly relations with Russia and China and have the USA fuck off

>>138723787
why are saragossa and tarragona highlighted out of all the cities lol

>>138735678
> Perhaps the point is this - when you have such a shitty address as Poland, you need exceptional people in charge to keep it together
Well, perhaps such country does not deserve to be independent?

>>138735989
Economically, Politically and Culturally it makes sense for Poland to remain independent.

However, Poles are dominated by their past and trauma when playing geo-politics. This renders them easy to manipulate by ((( external))) and ((( internal )))) forces

>>138723322
I think austrians must be tired of the bullshit the EU has been pedaling for the last decade too

>>138735989
It was and is independent enough to decide whether it wants to be a part of a Western-led block, or a province in a mongol shithole left in place after the great successes of the USSR, which is the point of the discussion.

Deserve got fuck all to do with it.

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>>138730700
Yup, you're another gullible americanophile who swallows every word from those, who know how to titillate polish pride.
This is so embarassing.

>>138735989
What's with you fucking Russkies and your uncontrollable urge to grab other clay and subdue other nations? Why can't you just fucking coexist peacefully?

>>138737106
(((coexist peacefully)))
Do you want to say (((be enriched))) by Western carpet bombardment?

>>138722648
Don't ask us. Geopolitics is pretty dead in Poland, you can't even have any reasonable discussion about foreign policy. Sooner or later it all comes down to whether we do or don't like Ruskies.
It's clear why we slavishly follow western-oriented concepts and shout down any attempt to seriously discuss eastern policy.

>>138737422
Perhaps they didn't deserve to stay unbombed?

>>138737422
>le insane degenerate west boogeyman meme
Does propaganda machine still feeds you that shit?

>>138724143
Nope. I'm pretty much sure EU policy is purely divide and conquer. Three seas could be actually united as slavic land without niggers and all the "fucking slavs taking our jobs" bullshit.

>>138737785
haven't watched Russian TV since 2009.
Did they invent all these conflicts involving us and its puppets?

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IT'S CALLED INTERMARIUM YOU DUMB IDIOTS

>>138737668
Well, if a country can't defend itself, it has no right to exist independently by nature. We can defend ourselves and our interests, countries like Poland can't, therefore you should expect to be an arena of interests of mighty ones.

>>138738601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdiKOBHs0Mg
That's what you get for such adventurist ideas.

>>138725509

He is right, you know?

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>>138738754
edgy ivan, too bad your only 2 neurons are fighting each other

>>138734907
Mate... our country was a teenager in the 30s. And population of our enemies was over 150mln. Finns didn't fight on 2 fronts and could've easier hide in the terrain. We couldn't

>>138739315
does this contradict something i said?

>>138739427
yes, the fact that your video has nothing to do with romania nor intermarium

go make irrelevant posts on your shill threads, there are plenty to choose from

>>138738622
You didn't defennd your country against international commies Ivan... We pretty much were both in the same shit after WW2

>>138739365
Nothing was stopping you being retarded and ally with one of the enemies, but instead you preferred to bark on both sides, trying to make a global conflict, thinking that Brits and French would do all the dirty work for you.
That's literally how not to do this meme "geopolitics"

>>138739571
> You didn't defennd your country against international commies Ivan
Well, and paid for that mistake with millions of deaths and isolation. Quite fair.

>>138739632
nothing was stopping you stop being retarded*
fix

>>138739632
>blame Poles for not defending their country
>you could've been volontaurly germs bitch...

fucking retard...

I think that we can all agree that Russia is shit

TRI MORETA
R
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>>138739852
You were voluntarily British bitch. A country which could have ever defended you.
The first step would have been to not act as a retard and stop doing retard bullshit towards soviet union. At least being neutral, but no, you instead decided to be a part of the game, barking being a small bitch between two elephants, while your masters was out of reach.

This thread is an example of how to waste time, on an obvious scam, that anything alternative to the EU is. The EU is an exporter of capital, it concentrates european industry, it builds economic connections between states, it funds infrastructure. "Three Seas" is only a pathetic, sad, wet dream of Polacks, who can't let go of history, who exploit history to escape from the grim reality

>>138740297
couldn't have ever defended*
fix wtf with my negative sentences today.

>>138740030
common knowledge

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Fuck white people

>>138740544
t. butthurt balt

>>138740297
We tried to be neutral, but germs demanded we give them Gdansk... What were we supposed to do in your opinion?? You seem to belive that nazis and commmies who took over their countries by brute force would respect our independence... They would just force their sick ideologies on us.
Allying with a country that you just won independence from is retarded, unless you want to lose your independence again.

You clearly are not serious or you must be mentaly chellenged

>>138722648
V4 NOW

>>138740876
mate, you are mistaken thinking that you were trying to be neutral, if your official books and propaganda say so it doesn't mean that you really were. Your government acted boldly as they knew that they could just flee away to their masters (what they actually do).
> They would just force their sick ideologies on us.
Allying with a country that you just won independence from is retarded, unless you want to lose your independence again.
Soviet Union had agreements with Finns after the war that if they wouldn't act retarded and be neutral, Soviet Union would pretend they don't exist at all and wouldn't try to interfere. That worked perfectly the whole further existence of Soviet Union.

>>138741896
Again, Finland is a completely different case.
>Your government acted boldly as they knew that they could just flee away to their masters (what they actually do)
Correct, and the funny thing is we're still conditioned to believe they were great patriots instead of incompetent morons at best, or reckless politicians who sold the lives of millons for their illusions of relevance.
Now it's easy to understand where ideas such as Intermarrium come from and how do they find any appeal.

>>138731828
>Germany would like to join them

How can you be this retarded? Germany literally is the EU, they'd love to play China or Russia against a conservative US government and its central-European allies to push the globalist agenda forward without any outside interference. If Clinton won the election, they'd be the most pro-American country in the world, along with France and Belgium.

> you are Polish
> you are by definition the whores of the jews
> you were in wwii

That's rich coming from a Brit. Your country was cucked by Rotschilds after the battle of Waterloo. You were (((their))) best tool until (((they))) managed to establish FED in the US.

And don't even get me started on world war 2, you fuckers set us up against Germany, failed to back us up as per out agreement, messed with our mobilization efforts (we were forced to cancel our mobilization due to your interference) and then kept sucking Stalin's dick for 6 years straight. You literally did everything in your power to allow communism to spread, because your (((bankers))) had to hedge their bets.

>>138723682
this is not even near yugoslavia you idiot,no poverty in three seas initiative,and also no immigrants=good.

>>138745619
i'm vlach

America is not conservative
America has been controlled by zionists since 1917? establishment of Federal Reserve
America has had not political resistance against globalists since Kennedy

The biggest globalist tools in the 20th century were USA, Soviet Union and Great Britain

Great Britain will remain under their control for the 21st century. There is no hope for this country to remove itself from the influence of the bankers. They((())) control the City of London, and with it the finances of UK.

Russia might rebel, mount resistance against Globalists
China might rebel, mount resistance against Globalists
Germany did it in the 20th century and I believe there must be some elements in the German elite that wishes to break from their bondage to USA/Uk and realign themselves with an Independent Eurasia.

Germany is not the EU

The EU is bruxelles and their government is not uniform. I believe there must be some dissenting, counter-factions in the elite

>>138740255
wtf is tri moreta?

>>138734423
> So much this

> in the 1930s, Poland had a chance of becoming an ally with Germany, certainly some Polish territory would have had to be renegotiated. An alliance with the Soviet Union was completely out of the question considering what the Soviet Union was: a militarized bolshevik state, mostly ruled by jews with a geo-political goal of spreading Communism throughout the world.

You utter moron, the only reason this didn't happen was a) Hitler's autism (he could've waited until the USSR attacked us, at which points he'd get everything he wanted and more) and b) your fucking (((guarantees))). Piłsudski wanted to get rid of Hitler, which would've prevented the war AND allowed the West to stop the commies again, cause they wouldn't push half as hard during a war of aggression. We live in the worst possible timeline, which was started by British (((bankers))) and the politicians they owned.

> Unfortunately Poland had 3 million jews.

Yes, and none of them were in any positions of authority - they didn't actually run our country like Weimar before Hitler or England throughout the entire war. Why do you think the nazis had such an easy job when it comes to rounding up Polish jews? They were already segregated. Unlike in Germany, where many jews were indistinguishable from the general population due to Bismarck's emancipation act.

I mean holy shit, the fucking #1 meme poster boy for Wehrmacht was removed from the army during the war when the nazis realized he was a jew (and he himself most likely wasn't aware of his jewish ancestry).


I fucking hate stormfags, all of them are so ill-informed it just hurts.

>>138746223
Holy shit, so Germany, one of the biggest nations shilling for the (((UN))) and one of the staunchest opponents of nationalism as an idea might rebel, but Trump's America, which is a symbol of nationalism and which is constantly being attacked by the (((media))) is just a globalist tool?

I'm done here, you're essentially living in your own bubble which has nothing to do with the real world.

>>138746822
>You utter moron, the only reason this didn't happen was a) Hitler's autism (he could've waited until the USSR attacked us, at which points he'd get everything he wanted and more) an


If Hitler waited for Soviet Attack, it would have been already too late

They needed their backs ensured before eliminating their Western Adversaries.

Your only chance was some form of non-aggression pact with germany.

If the Polish regime became anti-German in any perceivable way, it became a danger for a Germany caught on two front-lines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact

Did this have any chance of success?
Were there any chances of Polish-German alliance?

And by the way, I am vlach

>>138732342
fuck off with your hiking
every fucking year one of you sperglords dies and makes to the news
they said they will start making you pay for rescue services

>>138747220
Trump's America is not different than Obama's America. If you think that much changes from one president to the other, you will have some disillusionment,

Trump might attempt to remove USA out of globalists' hands., but it is extremely difficult, and as of today, they have not made much progress.

As of Germany, look at how they are forging relations with Russia
Look at UK being furious on Germany ( UK has been under the globalists since 1688)
I do not say Germany is completely independent, but it attempts to emancipate itself and re-align itself with Russia.


You have to understand that nowadays the globalists have their hand in almost every country.

I think USA and UK are the most cucked.
Germany is pretty much, but it attempts to remove itself from (((their))) influence( look at the economic measures) look at ( geopolitics)

Dieselgate is an economic scandal engineered in the USA against Germany, political blackmailing

And migrant's crisis is the same:
A weapon thrown against Germany

And then look at USA and UK, they are fanatically anti-german. UK and USA are almost completely under (((their ))) control( forget what trump promises, Trump has his family married into glabalists)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTDlY4o23XA

>>138747247
>If Hitler waited for Soviet Attack, it would have been already too late

This is bullshit, the Soviet army performed so poorly they would've most likely been stopped in Poland. The only thing that made them start fighting well was German cruelty, and even then their kill ratio was about 1:4 (in Poland it was 1:2 - and in many battles we actually outperformed the Germans).

> They needed their backs ensured before eliminating their Western Adversaries.

Yes, because unlike the Brits and the French, we would've honored our agreement. So, I dunno, maybe don't pull the trigger if you don't want to go to war?

Also, you're conveniently omitting the fact that the Germans didn't have to sign the Ribbentropp-Molotov pact. But I guess fucking over anti-communist countries with the communists is fine as long as your beloved fuhrer does it, amirite?

> Did this have any chance of success?
Were there any chances of Polish-German alliance?

Yes, we would've been Germany's allies if the USSR invaded us - and this was inevitable at that point.

Hitler wasn't a good leader, his German autism combined with a streak of Prussian imperialism actually fucked over the cause he was supposedly fighting for. Compare Franco's fate to what happened to Mussolini and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Communism could've been stopped, but there were two things that prevented that: English (((bankers))) and Hitler's stupidity/lack of foresight.

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I'd like that a lot, we can build a big beautiful wall and watch the west burn from it, while drinking.

>>138748297
>This is bullshit, the Soviet army performed so poorly they would've most likely been stopped in Poland.

The Pole he is actually that powerful....

Ok, please read on Soviet re-armament policies.

Also this only conversation surviving with Hitler speaking in a small room"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVqxoA52kjI

He said The German Army was overwhelmed at the sheer quantity of Soviet equipment, perhaps 35 000 tanks

Please tell us how did you plan to stop 35 000 tanks?

>>138732821
Tristate monarchy pls

Well its upgraded V4. Would be nice but doubtfull it will ever become reality.

>>138746776
3 seas

>>138748686
Equipment doesn't mean shit without good soldiers to operate it. The Wehrmacht literally trashed the Soviets in 1941 and we were doing a good job fighting the Wehrmacht before being backstabbed by Stalin, so I guess it wouldn't be a stretch to say that we'd stop the Soviets with the help of the Wehrmacht on our own turf, especially without all the British and French meddling behind the scenes.

>>138749506
How did Stalin backstab anybody?

Britain and France would have allied the USSR
Britain for sure, France, it depends. They were (((cucked))) by (((liberalism)))
Also, France would have most likely become an enemy rather than ally of Germany.

So two enemies in the west France and Britain
USSR in the East
Germany needed to have its back ensured.
Not alliance or non-aggression pact with Poland
Poland cannot be trusted
Invasion of Poland.

This is how geo-politics are played
.

The British and French would have meddled behind the scenes, behind Germany's back.

>>138750026
> How did Stalin backstab anybody?

I didn't mean that as a betrayal, it's just that the Soviet troops appeared in our rear when we were about to regroup. Wehrmacht wasn't even close to defeating us on its own.

> Britain and France would have allied the USSR

You should read some books, nigger. Start with New Lies for Old. Stalin cucked Britain by that point, the (((bankers))) would've never allied with USSR if they didn't go BAMN on Hitler.

The commies were globalists, but they were very distinct from western elites. If Stalin ever conquered entire Europe, the Rothschilds and all the other banking families would've been shot.

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>>138733114
>Do you remember what happened the last time? We live on the corridor between them, and we're doing what we must to survive

Yeah, pic related happened. Always fun for the little guys when superpowers actually agree upon something.
Thing is, trusting USA could mean exactly the same thing. It would be in USA's geopolitical interest to carve Europe up; Trump is good buddies with Putin. Connect the dots.

>>138750568
>You should read some books, nigger. Start with New Lies for Old. Stalin cucked Britain by that point, the (((bankers))) would've never allied with USSR if they didn't go BAMN on Hitler.
>The commies were globalists, but they were very distinct from western elites. If Stalin ever conquered entire Europe, the Rothschilds and all the other banking families would've been shot.


Mate most Bolsheviks were Jewish. How come they were anti-globalist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bSAB5OPkwQ

Yes many of them had been purged, but they were still so many of them at the top to the point that the Soviet Union was pretty much serving Jewish interests.

Did USSR stop serving Jewish interests after the war? in the 1950-1990s?
I do not think so.

Plus, the Bolshevik revolution was financed by wall-street bankers

>>138722648
I seriously hope based USA will push these retards going war against Russia. Rebuilding the zone would be very good for our economy. Bonus point if it kills millions of white people.

>>138750964
> Mate most Bolsheviks were Jewish. How come they were anti-globalist?

I never said they were anti-globalist. But they wanted to be the elite of the new globalist world, they didn't want to share with the bankers.

> Yes many of them had been purged, but they were still so many of them at the top to the point that the Soviet Union was pretty much serving Jewish interests.

No, it wasn't. The Soviet Union was serving soviet interests.

> Plus, the Bolshevik revolution was financed by wall-street bankers

Every time the bankers tried to appease the bolsheviks by giving them money they got fucked over by the commies.

I know it's hard to grasp when you have a one-track mind and you think everything boils down to German aryans fighting the jews, but the real world is slightly more complicated than that.

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>>138748649
>building walls
>Not puling a couple of old tanks out of the museum so we can LARP as the Das Reich division while invading Serbia.
pleb taste there бaтe

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>>138751700
>while invading Serbia.
you are free to try, tatar

>>138734907
Very flattering, but we survived mostly because Soviet Union was too busy elsewhere in Europe... like in Poland, for instance.

>>138741896
>Soviet Union had agreements with Finns

Heh. Those "agreements" basically meant we could keep the name Finland and our own money, but everything else was controlled by Soviet Union.
In some ways was even less independence than most of the Grand Duchy era.