Are we all just going to ignore on how Trump is sending more

>>138717743
yup.

>>138717743
I doubt the timing with his rally was a coincidence. Also there's CNN (the evil media that not one trusts!! :DD) making things up to keep opposition to Trump being about racism while his support is all "hey Trump is unifying the country! He knows what he's doing and he sounds like a nice guy!". They're so complicite it's painful to watch.

>>138717743
Because it's not really a problem to fight the baddies and we trust him to win the war. We voted for a strong leader.
Fuck off shill.

>>138720364
My idea of a strong leader would be one that stands up against politicians like McCain when they want never ending wars to protect opium. I can see how retards like you are impressed by big bombs though.

I doubt Trump cares he puts his trust in Mattis and if Mattis says he needs more soldiers then he gets more soldiers.

>>138720364
Yeah I guess it's nice to have a "Strong leader of the west" now, kinda makes up for everyone's enslavement for the rest of eternity.

>>138720477
fuck off shareblue

>>138720364
>how to tell if someone is a good goyim

>>138722092
good goy

>>138720477
Where do you live m8, I'll fight you in real life.

>>138717743
Criticizing Trump for winning a war. Ok mate, you know that Obama just didn't increase the number of soldiers he sent to Afghanistan the correct way. But Trump is doing just that, he is increasing the troop numbers correctly - winning.

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>>138717743
This is what happens when you carry water for a politician, you sell out whatever principles you thought you had. Just look at Alex Jones, he's now IN FAVOR of more troops in Afghani, more war, pro-Patriot Act, NSA spying, etc.

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>>138722540
>Criticizing Trump for winning a war

How can you win an occupation of a foreign country we are occupying? Taliban will keep fighting till you burgers leave. There is no VICTORY, you lose. Taliban will gain control of THEIR country.

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>>138720364
You are fucking pathetic.

ISIS is almost entirely defeated in Syria and the surrounding area. Trump is 1-0 in wars so I trust him in Afghanistan.

>>138717743
I trust Trump. If he says we need to take decisive action in Afghanistan, then I support him.

>>138720477
>Implying Trump cares to stop drug wars
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a33jwb/trump-officially-declared-an-opioid-emergency-and-then-officially-did-nothing-vice-news

>>138720364
There is literally nothing to "win" in Afghanistan.
It's a 50-100 year military exercise that will keep angry Muslims busy over there forever.
It is completely unwinnable.
A win is us staying there forever.

>>138717743
Oh you mean doing what was supposed to be done from the start?
Instead of sending cattle to the slaughterhouse he's bringing down the wreckingball on the house.
I trust him.

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>>138717743
How will the CIA get funded if no one protects their poppy fields?Think about the CIA anon,think abut them...dont be a so heartless

>>138724019
>ISIS is almost entirely defeated in Syria and the surrounding area. Trump is 1-0 in wars so I trust him in Afghanistan.

Troll post or retard.

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>>138723939
>burger meme

Sometimes I feel people don't have the ability to think for themselves. No matter what you label yourself you're fucking sheep.

>>138723939
Taliban is actually the "good" faction. It was Al Queda that was/is the problem. When Trump says hes going after ISIS what part of that do you not understand?

>>138722540
Obama who was under complete control of by the deep state wanted US soldiers dead. Thats why there was so many rules of engagement which stopped US troops from firing back, part of the ploy of Iraq/Afghanistan was to weaken the US military and strengthen and unite Muslims. Trump is giving the troops free reign to fuck ISIS up.

America first! ....?

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>>138723939
>Taliban will gain control of THEIR country.
It's not their country, mate. It is a US base.

>>138724302
>When Trump says hes going after ISIS what part of that do you not understand?

There are no ISIS in Afghanistan you retard.

>>138724209
Shill manual 101. Call anyone with a good point a shill and don't directly answer the statement. This isn't r/politics bro.

>>138724302
My favorite one was where Obama told the military to drop leaflets telling the locals that they will be bombing the area in a few hours.

>>138720808
Even though Mattie's probably knows how to win/end wars, don't you suspect he also has deep state ops telling him different objectives?

>>138720477
this

Let's face it, we don't have a fucking clue why he needs to send troops so we cant really decide if it's a good move or shitty move. Someone suggested bases were needed there to keep an eye on some China/India/Pakistan crap which sounds likely cause trump seemed quite certain that we weren't going to get caught up 'nation building'. I totally support him, and understand he needs to make decisions based on information he can't share

I was LITERALLY in the ME. Those sandniggers are idiots. Lets just do what we should have done years ago and take the land to suck all the oil out. Or bomb it all.

>>138724381
ISIS is being defeated by Assad, not your boy Trump leaf.

Trump is the one HELPING ISIS in Syria and around the world.

And why is ISIS this big boogy man we should just invade every country on earth for?

>>138724524
>I was LITERALLY in the ME.

Afghanistan isn't the middle east you dumb burger.

>>138717743
This board is entirely Trumpshekeling now. And most of them do it for no money.

Trydiscord for real political conversation.

>>138720364
>win the war
Lel Trumpfags are retarded

>>138724555
lol

Russia / Iran / America / and a couple other countries have defeated ISIS and Israel in the region. Part of winning wars is making alliances and Trump has done that. Hes 1-0, suck on it faggot.

I realised from last night that the american trump supporter has been so demoralised that trump calling out antifa was some kind of big deal, media just goes on a rant the next day and it's back to hating good old republicans.
Literally banging on about racism, bigorty and hate. he's the SJW in chief.
afghanistan is just a load of shit neocon war, no purpose at all.

If America pulls out then the dying syrian ISIS will mobilize there and pump their ranks up with talibans

Also the CIA has poppyfields there, it would be a shame if it got burned in collateral damage

>>138724572
Geographers and historians do not always agree on which countries should be included in the Middle East. People commonly include the following countries: Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Egypt, Libya, and Sudan. I'm sorry, anon, what were you saying?

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You aint doing shit by going in there,the place is called "Graveyard of Empires" for a reason.
And why are you still there in the first place?I was 11 when the invasion started and the country is probably even worse than then,the country produces like 90% of the worlds opium.
Lets imagine that the next few trillions you guys spend there actually work and you guys kick out the jihadis,what happens next?Have to stay there for more 20 years?Because as soon as you guys leave the jihadis will conquer the place again,there is no wnning in Afghanistan

>>138724778
>>>138724572 (You)
>Geographers and historians do not always agree on which countries should be included in the Middle East. People commonly include the following countries: Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Egypt, Libya, and Sudan. I'm sorry, anon, what were you saying?

It's in Southeastern Asia or the Indian subcontinent

Stop spewing bs you saw on wiki, it's indo-Ayran culture

Notice how Saudi never f*cks with Israel and visa versa..

>>138717743
>more dead Muslims is now a bad thing
What has happened to /pol/?

>>138724910
Ok, sorry.

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>>138724338
true. most of them bailed out to europe kek

>>138724197
this

>>138717743
4000 troops is nothing, they're probably military advisors and training specialists, ANA needs all the help they can get to make their soldiers capabale.

>>138720477
>protect opium
not
>lose all gains made since 2001

>>138720477
>when they want never ending wars to protect opium

Is this today's Shareblue's talking point?
I have seen it all over the interbutts

You fucking morons should be saying we are after their minerals ( rare earth ores etc)
you guys really suck at internet.

Also when has /pol/ been pacifists or isolationist?

>>138725344
>Shareblue

Put your computer down anon, go outside, talk to real human beings.

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>>138725344
>Also when has /pol/ been pacifists or isolationist?

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

>>138717743
A Prince, therefore, should have no care or thought but for war, and for the regulations and training it requires, and should apply himself exclusively to this as his peculiar province; for war is the sole art looked for in one who rules, and is of such efficacy that it not merely maintains those who are born Princes, but often enables men to rise to that eminence from a private station; while, on the other hand, we often see that when Princes devote themselves rather to pleasure than to arms, they lose their dominions.

Basically he's doing the #1 shitty thing I knew Hillary would do if she won.
Complete disgusting disaster.

>>138725828
Hillary campaigned on WW3 with Russia. Keep trying shlomo.

>>138724336
sink that ring into the ocean

>it's a "Trump acts directly against the foreign policy promises he made during his campaign and against his own previously expressed positions" episode

I've seen this one before

Think of all the poor Muslims that will be killed by Trump's troops. All those innocent, intelligent, and compassionate little monkeys whose lives will be cut short by US troops. Look at all the great achievements that Afghanistan has given the world and cherish them, all the scientific discoveries, all the works of art, all the great literature that comes from Afghanistan, for fewer will be made since this decision today. Think of all the goats that will be widowed by American troops, left bleating in sorrow, never again to know the touch of their lovers who were killed by Trum's decision.

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>>138724336
>It's not their country, mate. It is a US base.
well actually the taliban hold a good 30% chunk of the nation which is really something not seen since pre 2001 invasion. the sons really did pick up guns from the fathers and the foreign presence does nothing but fuel the flames over there. also top kek at that map
>sensible iranian areas
>arabs
during the iran iraq war the arabs were expected to revolt and yet that did not work out so well.

What else has he done that's indefensible besides this and eating well-done steak with ketchup?

>>138726761
Exactly. Shills are trying to demoralize us because Bannon left (no one gives a shit) and now this and it isn't working. They will go back to tax returns / Russia / Ivanka controls the presidency bullshit soon.

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>>138726569
Think of all the US money and lives lost on it.

>>138720808
Exactly this

>>138726004
Guess we never know, right?
I meant if it even true, at least she not lying and do 360 backstabbing.

>>138727064
Ya man cause Trump putting in a couple thousand more troops in Afghanistan is much worse than picking a fight with the #2 superpower on their own soil. You faggots expose yourselves so quickly the moment you try and debate. Go back to posting softcore porn and calling everyone who makes a good point a shill.

>>138724302

The taliban were letting Al Quada use their territory, idk why you'd think they were opposing sides.

That's why just pulling out isn't that easy a call, because they'll just take over and start doing it again, they need some government to stop them becoming a terrorist state and it sure as fuck aint gonna be the Afghanistan government.

>>138726950
More soldiers die in vehicle accidents in the states than in Afghanistan, and spending my tax money on killing Muslims is probably the best value that I'm going to get for it.

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>>138725344
>the opioid crisis is bad!
>lets send our troops to protect its production!
2017 trump supporters are immune to the irony of all this insanity. Especially since Trump has a long history of wanting to pull out of Afghanistan.

>>138727253
USA forced those 2 factions together. Invading foreigners tend to do that. There is no "fixing" these countries so I agree with your second paragraph but Trump knows more than we do so lets see how this plays out. Afghanistan probably has more to do with the Pakis and Chinks then the country itself.

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/r/the donald pls leave this board and never fucking come back

>shilling for ZOG wars

I hope you kikes are exterminated.

afghanistan is totally different from iraq. it is impossible to win conventionally.
We could use nerve gas and win, but I guess that's not allowed.

>>138727678
The US gets its heroin from Mexico. Afghanistan heroin is a European problem.

If we are so fortunate, it may soon be revealed that up until now it has only been a pretend war. A war that was never intended to make anything better and help the world, perpetuated by those involved who wanted nothing but hell on earth. I say yay to the golden age!

>>138724197
This

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>>138727925
Sure :^)
http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/the-afghan-war-opioid-addiction-in-america

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>>138717743
I don't like it, but I understand the political aspect of his dilemma.
He had this dumped in his lap, and nation-building is traditionally foolish, it never works. So the "nation" his predecessors have built in Afaggotstan is corrupt and incapable of holding the country when the Taliban attacks, which they surely will do as soon as we leave.
This is a perfect analog of Vietnam, the very same situation.
The only way for us to leave with a "win" will be to utterly destroy the Taliban, right down to the last man, right down to the last potential recruit. And, frankly, I'm dubious it can be done. In regions like this, they turn out fanatics by the barrel-full, there's always another idiot that is willing to blow up for Allah.

If he kills every leader they have, including the Mossad moles, it MIGHT work...but he is faced with wrecking the organization past the point of any potential resurrection, so I'm not that hopeful.

But this is not his doing. He's had this dumped on him, and he's taking the one route, regardless of how risky, that he has left to him.

It might work, if the enemy (((globalists))) are too caught up in the elimination of their mercenary ISIS army to react fully to Afghanistan. But that will take an alliance an coordination with Russia, Iran, & Syria, with the mouthpieces of those (((globalists))), the international media, constantly hounding him for it.

This shitty mess is more complicated than "just leave."

there is one massive difference with this deployment.

a roll out of new rules of engagement. soft and weak rules of engagements over the last 17 yrs in iraq and afghanistan have resulted in thousands of deaths of US and allied forces.

i think this new protocol will be ruthless.

the plan is to destroy! absolutely fucking destroy the taliban and isis. with every level of force available

western militarys have got to stop being soft on offensive operations. the geneva convention has allowed politics to infiltrate defence forces down to their very core values. I know i was in the military for 9 years i've seen the outright retardation of it. time to go ball out on this one.

>>138717743
Shut the fuck up. He named antifa. You're expecting too much from him.

>>138729635

i was watching the speech live today, surprisingly the whole live speech was on a 24hr news channel here in australia.

saw he named antifa, it was hilarious. it fucking knows who the problem is. hopefully everyone will know who he is talking about by now.

>>138729764
>saw he named antifa,

it will only get more popular because of that.

>>138723876
ur just a shill
it's 5d chess
fuck of sharia blue
anyway he is different to all the other politicians and not a deep state agent shill faggot like you

>>138729263
>the plan is to destroy! absolutely fucking destroy the taliban and isis. with every level of force available

Rules of engagement still say you can't kill civilians. So how do you destroy ISIS and the Taliban? They are living among the civilians BECAUSE THEY ARE THE CIVILIANS.

>go in with new strategy
>we arent just sending special forces to train villagers to fight insurgents
>more kebabs and mudslimes will die

Im confused what the problem is?

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>>138728640

>>138717743
>if you leave a war zone, you win