/MLM/ MARXISM–LENINISM–MAOISM GENERAL

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Let us build our great new wall

fuck off tankie

>>138698019
Anarchy is the end goal of communism. The only difference is how we think it can be achieved.

Could you define what real socialism is?

>>138696997
How is this different from regular Maoism and what political party advocates for this?

>>138698236
A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

>>138698344
It's more universal than maoism which had China in mind. Many countries have local parties that advocate for MLM

>>138696997
all fucking commies must fucking hang.
>in all fields

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If there was a Nazi party I'd join it only to piss off cunts like you.
If you animals actually do go full retard I'll be rooting for the right wing death squads.
Do something.
Please.

>>138698643
What do you think communism means? We just want to end exploitation of capital

>>138698682
You know that Nazi's are closer to Communists than Capitalists right?

>>138698371
So Venezuela is a socialist country by your definition, correct?

>>138698236

There are many socialisms. The term can be difficult to use honestly. Look up Libertarian Socialism, it is the correct way for humans to govern themselves.

Real socialism, the original socialism which developed in the wake of the industrial revolution means a democratized workplace. Businesses under capitalism are fascist in structure, totally hierarchical, the guys at the bottom do all the work but the guys at the top get all the money. Democratizing the workplace solves all kinds of problems but I'm too tired to list examples sorry.

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>>138696997
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

>>138698748
> exploitation of capital
At least say it like it is, wide spread poverty for the masses and all riches concentrated in the hands of the despot dictator.

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Threadly reminder that America defeated communism.

>>138698910
No, they fail to meet the definition of "owned or regulated by the community as a whole" part. I am not an expert on South American politics though so I could not tell you why it failed

>>138699215
Thats the opposite of communism

>>138699234
Communism is a moneyless, classless, stateless society you fucking mongoloid. You beat authoritarian state capitalism.

>>138699234
Also you haven't beat shit but your dick faggot.

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>>138699428
so what you're basically saying is.. it wasn't real communism?

>>138699237
But Chavez, with his United Socialist Party of Venezuela, took power democratically and nationalized the major industries, most famously the Oil Production

If this doesn't qualify as "owned or regulated by the community as a whole", could you give a example of what that actually is and how it would function?

>>138699294
No wonder why it always fails.

>>138696997
Your ideology is as bankrupt as Natsoc even if in principle it's right about a lot of things. Personality cults are for cucks.

>>138699663
You don't reach the Utopia over night. You don't stop trying either

>>138699663
ah dam got me

>Before Communism
Communism makes people equally
>After Communism
Communism makes people poor equally

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>>138696997
Commie Personality cult?

Mao literally killed millions do to his retardation. Go ahead and put his name on your ideology.

>>138696997
Sounds absolutely BOLSHY™
>B O L S H Y
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>50 U.S.C § 842

>The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein by force and violence, are not entitled to any of the rights, privileges, and immunities attendant upon legal bodies created under the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof; and whatever rights, privileges, and immunities which have heretofore been granted to said party or any subsidiary organization by reason of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof, are terminated.

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>>138700026
>>138696997

Sage this garbage.

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>>138700120
>>138696997

If history is the greatest teacher why haven't you learned from these three idiots mistakes?

>>138696997
>>138697214
>>138698172
>>138698371
>>138698532
>>138698748
>>138699237
>>138699294

Noboy wants military enforced slavery, thanks.
>>138699294
It isn't. Have you not read any communist literature that isn't propaganda demonizing everything else? A single ruling party deciding the worth of labor and distribution of wealth that only allows entry to those already aligned with this upper class is the equivalent of a capitalist monopoly run by a council of vicious dictators. Communism isn't about equality, it is about the exploitation of the people.

>>138699699
The state/nation /=/ the community. They are not advanced enough to reach that state. Socialism is a more advanced form of consciousness that can't be faked by states declaring themselves it while seizing the capital for themselves.

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>>138699832
>ywn overthrow the capitalist system and take my shit

>>138700233
There is no military under world communism

>>138696997
>What is MLM?

Another pathetic attempting at a failed doctrine that failed 100% of time.

It is a thread for lowlifes to gather to whilst they wait for their impeding doom at the hand of the Right Wing Death Squads

>>138700026
>Blue and Yellow
Missed opportunity to make Ukrainian flag (country that got really fucked over from communism)

>>138700330
You have no idea how it works. Read what I wrote at least. It is a historical progress

>>138700026
and he also had some good idea's aside from his mistakes

>>138700233

>"Noboy wants military enforced slavery, thanks."
>Literally a Nazi

I bet you think I'll respond to your shitty b8

>>138700234

>Socialism is a more advanced form of consciousness that can't be faked by states declaring themselves it while seizing the capital for themselves.
Which is what communist dictatorships do.
So... you're saying communism isn't real socialism? Or is it socialism that is not real communism?

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>>138699098
Here's an example of workplace democratization in practise

Why are the communists on this board so fucking dumb?

Is this some CTR / shareblue thing?

>>138700567
Socialism leads to communism. Chances are if a "communist country" has a dictatorship they fail to meet the definition of socialism or communism because capital hasn't reached the hands of the proletariat

>>138700234
So you are saying Socialism can only work inside a Capitalist system where regular people voluntarily give to each other?

Doesn't that already exist with charities/food banks/etc.
If so why bother trying to topple the government or stop capitalism?

>>138700567
Socialism is the transitionary period between capitalism and communism.

Socialism is where wealth is distributed equitably, industry is democratically controlled.

Communism is the end goal, a moneyless, classless, stateless society.

>>138700314
Sure, after you and your 20 friends have murdered the rest of the World's population, you can disband the military.

>>138700528
I don't know who you are and I don't give two shits. In all forms of communism, people are forced to work under the threat of execution, and all profits from their labor are exploited by the authoritarian proletariat party. It is a dictatorship based on slavery.

National Socialism is socialism applied to the welfare of the nation and it's cultural heritage. No one shoots you for not giving everything you have to them and bend the knee. They only shoot you if you try to enslave them or rape their daughters, you know, like the Nazis did to the murderous Bolsheviks in the Weimar Republic.

>>138700766
Socialism can only work when people are at a stage where they can share the means of production without falling to corruption or faux socialism that still embraces capitalism like china and Venezuela.

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>>138700429
>it leads to historical progress
>It is literally only capable of passing time

Sounds about right.

>>138696997
>Marxism-Leninism-Maoism
I recall some commie group in southamerica preaching this shit and eventually turning into terrorist, killing mostly farmers and working class cause they were not on their side.
"Shinning Path" i think was the name

>>138700969
Nothing we teach has anything to do with murdering.

>>138701020
South America generally isn't at a high of a level of consciousness as most of the western world. Even the west has a lot of improvement to do.

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>>138700969
>I don't know who you are and I don't give two shits.

>>138701050
>Nothing we teach has anything to do with murdering
Except that every single time communism has been implemented in practice, it devolves into an orgy of mass murder

>>138700979
Then could you explain how human being would be able to reach that stage where they can share the means of production without falling to corruption?

>>138700233
You really are dumb, but then again you're using a nazi flag ,so low iq.

>>138701390
Democratize industry. Decentralize society, dismantle illegitimate authority. Progressive income tax. Equitable distribution of wealth. Nationalization of banking, media, oil. Single payer health care. Basic income.

Lots can be done.

>>138696997
Hey conrade is really good to be the only person in the city with internet. jajaja
Here in Venezuela only the State elite have internet so I can be like you and masterbate to cartoons like my little pony, watch trans porn and play video games like you so good. XD
Because Im the only one in the city with internet Im mucho more popular than musicians and athletes, jajajaja so bueno conrade.
I even buyed a hair dye like shock pink to look like a 1st world left youth member I just need to enlarge more my anus with some rubber stuff but its hard to find here in Venezuela.
Communismo rules
Viva Chaves, Viva Maduro
The class struggle here is non existent since the only class are the people in the State Elite, the others are only our slaves who were oposition, jejejeje
Also I wish hope Japan make a communist Boku no Piko. XD~

>>138700717

All communist countries have, by definition, a dictatorship. The Worker's Party unilaterally makes all economic and political decisions without any regard for the opinion or welfare of the public. Usually it results in the Worker's Party stealing as much capital as they can and enslaving all non-party members to work in exchange for a ration and a blanket the rest of their lives.

>>138700776
In socialism, the means of production are democratically controlled, but the wealth is NOT distributed equitably, as there are profit motives and profits generated by a firm are either to be employed by that firm, or to accumulate in a social dividend to be used by the state to finance basic structure of society.
Socialism simply takes away exchange value.

Communism is classically called "classless" even though it does possess two classes: Worker's Party members and non members. All are bound by the same rules, but these rules are decided exclusively by the Worker's Party, whose composition is decided also by the Worker's Party. In essence, a dictatorship with a single ruling class presiding over an impoverished people who are forced to work according to their capabilities, and to surrender all products of labor to finance the Worker's Party, the military force that threatens to execute dissenters, and then a small fraction is given to the others according to their needs.

There is a reason people fight tooth and nail to NOT belong in communism: no one wants to be enslaved by vicious monsters.

>>138701625
But how would you even be able to do all of that with a decentralized society

Progressive income tax. Equitable distribution of wealth. Nationalization of banking, media, oil. Single payer health care. Basic income.
All these things being provided implies that there is a strong government that is able to enforce laws

>>138696997
I understand the part about socialism and seizing the means of production, but in the end game of communism/anarchy/whatever you wanna call the lack of State, who stops people from i dunno, just doing whatever the fuck they want? I mean, what stopped Person 1 from making more money than Person 2 in soviet russia or Maoist China? I'm legitimately curious

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>>138701963

>>138702092
Not necessarily. I mean you could decentralize society and let people sort it out for themselves. I'm not saying do all these things, but these things would work to make society better.

If you gave people sovereignty over their own communities without an overbearing government it would probably be a lot easier to institute these changes in all honesty. Big government is unwieldy.

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>>138696997
Pinochet did nothing wrong

>>138700979

So you mean that socialism works only with non-human beings? How is this helpful for humans?

>>138701050
This is objectively false. Anyone who refuses to surrender all of their earnings to the Worker's Party in the name of "from each according to his ability" is either promptly shot in the head or is forcibly robbed of all possessions, including clothing and food, and left to starve or freeze to death. Communism always uses mass murder as the incentive to submit to the Worker's Party, since there is no profit motive nor nationalistic pride. Only the threat of death if you stop being exploited by the ruling class.

>>138701529
So because you can not argue against facts or history you make use of ad hominem? And how ironic is it that you're accusing someone of having low IQ for wearing a certain flag while brandishing a Communist flag?

>>138701390
, knowledge begins by apprehending existing objects in their specific differences. In the study of nature, for example, we distinguish matters, forces, genera, and the like, and stereotype each in its isolation. Thought is here acting in its analytic capacity, where its canon is identity, a simple reference of each attribute to itself. It is under the guidance of the same identity that the process in knowledge is effected from one scientific truth to another. Thus, for example, in mathematics magnitude is the feature which, to the neglect of any other, determines our advance. Hence in geometry we compare one figure with another, so as to bring out their identity. Similarly in other fields of knowledge, such as jurisprudence, the advance is primarily regulated by identity. In it we argue from one specific law or precedent to another: and what is this but to proceed on the principle of identity?

But Understanding is as indispensable in practice as it is in theory. Character is an essential in conduct, and a man of character is an understanding man, who in that capacity has definite ends in view and undeviatingly pursues them. The man who will do something great must learn, as Goethe says, to limit himself. The man who, on the contrary, would do everything, really would do nothing, and fails. There is a host of interesting things in the world: Spanish poetry, chemistry, politics, and music are all very interesting, and if any one takes an interest in them we need not find fault. But for a person in a given situation to accomplish anything, he must stick to one definite point, and not dissipate his forces in many directions. In every calling, too, the great thing is to pursue it with understanding.

>>138702540
Only humans are capable of advanced consciousness. Some are further along then others.

>>138698748
Yeah sure, by eliminating private property, wealth, food, water then the people. Commie paradise!

>>138702746
Property and money is only eliminated when there is enough to go around for everyone that no one has to worry about it

>>138699237
Lol, just lol. One day you'll grow up and realise how very wrong you were. Until then leave the politics to functioning adults.

>>138701234
>>138702242

By your own admission,
> Businesses under capitalism are fascist in structure, totally hierarchical, the guys at the bottom do all the work but the guys at the top get all the money. Democratizing the workplace solves all kinds of problems but I'm too tired to list examples sorry.

You realize that your description of fascist capitalism is ultra incomplete and also defines communism, right? All workers' labor is exploited by a single corrupt ruling class, the Worker's Party.
Have you ever read any history book? Have you ever heard of WWI? Cold war? Joseph fucking Stalin? The Holodomor?

>>138702868
This is the history of consciousness itself we are talking about. It happens regardless of what you think about it.

>>138702434
But that would mean different communities would have different success with ruling themselves, you'd basically regress human society to tribes

>>138702550
>In every calling, too, the great thing is to pursue it with understanding.
So how do you pursue understanding of this greater consciousness and how would that make for the implementation of socialism in society

>>138702550
Hey conrade don't avoid me Im a venezuelan senpai. My father works for Maduro police I have pink hair and I like sucking cocks like you. XD
Hey conrade in the prison here all the oposition eat shit jajajaja
We dominate the country conrade, come here visit me XD
Hey conrade we can bang all negros here come to Venezuela jejejejeje
We can play ps2 and suck each other cocks like in the xvideos XD
You gonna be my conrade moe I'm brown almost black and I know you like color people XD

>>138702839
Enough to go around according to whom? And don't say "collectives" or "committee" or anything like that because then it's not real Communism according to Marx... cone on pinko faggot, who decides how everything gets parceled out?

>>138703035
>History of conciousness.
What are you blabbering on about?

>>138702651
>Only humans are capable of advanced consciousness. Some are further along then others.
than*
And humans with advanced consciousness have already determined that we are not biologically wired to submit to a single ill-defined ideal that fits your agenda and no one else's. People have different political opinions and inclinations, and this is good as it allows different ideas to compete on their merits. Or it would, if there weren't authoritarian pigs like imperialist capitalists and communists.
I defend your right to be a communist in your land with your people, but you do not have a right to waltz into other people houses, beat and torture them into submission into your twisted slave-based murder-laden ideology. You do not have the right to attempt global domination, and you do not have the right to simply shoot everyone who disagrees with you.
Until you learn to respect other people's opinions, you'll never grow as a person. And when you respect that other people have different perspectives and we all have a right to coexist peacefully, that is the day you will drop the communist flag and become a responsible adult.

>>138696997
Communism is a death trap. You may as well just save the commu ist leaders the hassle and sign all your earthly possessions over to them and neck yourself....or shot at them. Those are your two best options.....either that or they slowly starve you and your family to death.

>>138696997
>eloquently
care to take a ride in my helicopter. you'll have a kick

>>138703075
Mostly just consciousness testing itself against itself in form of other people. Voicing your opinion and then having it tested against others until you reach an opinion that can stand up to something

>>138703661
All consciousness leads to communism, your petty events mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

I give up brothers. This movement is just too fucked for me. I'm not alone either...

>>138701365
>>138701814

>>138703791
So your using some new age bullshit as circular reasoning to justify your shitty ideals, great.

>>138703661
You dont have a helicopter, fatty

>>138703568

Exactly, these kids don't understand that communist is not peaceful or willing at all. They clearly have dabbled in Karl Marx's texts but they have never pondered the actions of Stalin or the horrors of the Holodomor, and not to mention Mao Zedong's 1949 purge, the GLF famine and the second purge in 1966.

>>138703672
So the free exchange of ideas, i.e. free speech, is vital for what you want to accomplish correct?

Then why does Antifa wish to stifle all opposing views?
It doesn't matter how repugnant an idea is, according to you it needs to be freely expressed to be able to compete with opposing ideas

If opposing ideals are not expressed and tested against others then the advanced consciousness you speak of will never occur, according to you

>>138703672

>Mostly just consciousness testing itself against itself in form of other people. Voicing your opinion and then having it tested against others until you reach an opinion that can stand up to something
But this is EXACTLY what communists avoid. It is why Mao and Stalin purged people. Address my reasoning, if you truly believe in your words:
>>138701963
>>138703516

>>138696997
Wow, just when I thought the communists on this board couldn't get any more degenerate, this subhuman shows up.

Please end your existence before you cause others to experience the same.

>>138704003
Do you deny that consciousness exists and that over time it has reached a point that is more rational than before?

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>>138702968
>All workers' labor is exploited by a single corrupt ruling class, the Worker's Party.
Have you ever read any history book? Have you ever heard of WWI? Cold war? Joseph fucking Stalin? The Holodomor?

I literally have never heard of a single one of those things. There are many kinds of communism matey. Even Libertarian Communism. Lots of Socialists and Communists have major problems with Stalin and the Soviet Union.

I don't like calling stuff Communism because nobody living has seen or will see Communism, it is a moneyless, stateless, classless society, that is way way down the road. You probably got your hot buns crossed over Leninism/Stalinism, authoritarian regimes which were anti-socialist. Immediately after the Bolshevik revolution they crushed every popular movement, destroyed the workers councils, dismantled the soviets, they had super exploitation of labor. That's not indicative of the problems with Socialism that shows the problems of authoritarianism.

Socialism's goal is to liberate working people, did working people control the means of production? If not then it's not socialism.

>>138702968
I mean I don't like calling the USSR or like Maoist China Communist because they're not.

People call themselves Communists, whatever. Should be anarchists but that's another debate.

>>138704147
Some liberals are hypocritical. Just because you call them leftists doesn't mean they adhere to the stable beliefs of it.

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>dude maybe if we just beat our heads against the wall a little harder it'll all come tumbling down
>dude social Darwinism is like mad legit and like science and stuff so if like social class is like a result of like darwinism then like... communism is science bro it's settled. settled science. I'm smart.
>dude like maybe we can't like do it in like post-industrialism and shit like that but uh... maybe if we like overthrow a couple like I dunno Mexican and Indian states the UN and NATO will just like... I dunno give up???

You people are fucking idiots real talk.

>>138704815
I have only masturbated twice today.

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>>138696997
>Marxism-Leninism-Maoism

>>138704718
So what happens, when during the path towards the advanced consciousness, socialism meets opposing ideas.

Since this is something that is still in progress, how can you be sure the end result will be socialism/communism and not something entirely different

>>138704147
Antifa doesn't believe in freedom of speech. Simple.

>>138700047
Neo-nazis dress as them as to discredit
the party

>>138703791
>All consciousness leads to communism
All individuality leads to brainless collectivism. Boy you people really stupid something fierce aren't ya? I guess violent removal from society is truly the only way to treat this disease.

>being so blind you think communism would ever work with human beings

>>138704538

Then you should re-brand your beliefs to sever association with what is commonly known as communism: the mass murder of innocents so that a person faking morality may rise to a dictatorial position.

>>138704657
Maybe it is you who should write up a more moderate and acceptable form of Socialism that does not involve slavery or mass murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin

These are the faces people think of when Communism is discussed, the same way people all think of Hitler when they see my flag.

Also,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Communism is much, much worse than the extremism of Nazi Germany, of which I don't even agree with. I am fond of many of the Nazi initial ideals. I am not fond or supportive of their later execution and degenerate nosedive into extremism.

>>138705232
Antifa
Is cancer to communist party

>>138700979
See thats funny that there is only a small paremeter of times when socialism or communism can work. Capitalism can work any time someone has anything slmeone else doesnt. In short fuck off communiste.

>>138705183
What kind of opposing ideas? Socialism and Communism deal with ownership of production. So its either private or publicly owned. Marx is just predicting that in the end it will be publicly owned because that is the only direction left.

>>138705767
Because it works doesn't mean its a good system. Were the past 3000 years of history considered good because they "worked"?

>>138698748
>we just want to remove any movement in society thus making individual existence completely vapid

>>138699294
The people who promote communism are the ones who are taking your money while all the people go to starve, I'm talking about the higher up active political members. It's funny because as it turns out, capitalism is what has caused the average wage to be much, much higher then that of any other communist country and not only is it much higher but over all there are many more people who own money, rather then millions having $1 each that they can't spend on anything.

>>138696997
Kill everyone to the left of Bernie, comrades!

>>138705940
People in the early 20th century were at a lower level of consciousness. Even in the first world today it might take some time to accomplish.

>>138705824
But why would Marx think Socialism/Communism is the end result?

Just because its the only direction left doesn't make it the direction that history will go

>>138706364
By examining history and realizing its a series of class struggles. Its the only direction left because the proletariat will only want what would benefit them which would be a system where no one can exploit capital.

>>138705624
I agree. The actions of a few extremist individuals should not be the reflection of a collective ideology. Any *true* communist that is willing to admit that Lenin, Mao and Stalin were horrible people is on the right path, just as I admit the extremism in Nazi Germany is counterproductive to the the whole point of National Socialism and the ideals that first got Adolf Hitler democratically elected.

>>138705824
Marxism is mostly fine, save for a few incorrect and generalizing assumptions. The twisted, violent and extremist interpretation of Marx's work by communists, however, is not fine at all.

>>138705918
It's not a good system, but the fact that we are here, alive, after 3000 years means it is at least functional. No one is saying ideology A or B is ideal or perfect, but let us not confuse individual interpretation of an ideology with historical facts.
To all communists in this thread: I urge you to seriously debate me on this matter, in a constructive manner worthy of /pol/. I am genuinely interested in bridging the misunderstanding between our differing ideologies. I am not an advocate for the extermination of dissenting opinions.
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>>138706075
How exactly do you measure consciousness

>>138706878
Most of human history specially the 'happy' periods were monarchies

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Communism is genuinely a mental disease and needs to be treated with Zyklon B for the sake of the rest of the world

EVERY SINGLE THREAD
EVERY SINGLE TIME
THEY JUST MAKE THE THREAD AND EXPECT SOMEONE ELSE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FUCKING LAZY FAGGOTS

WHO DECIDES WHAT TO PRODUCE
WHO DECIDES HOW MANY PRODUCTS TO PRODUCE
WHO DECIDES WHO DOES WHAT
WHO MOVES STUFF FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY
ARE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES OK WITH THEIR STUFF BEING TAKEN TO ANOTHER ONE?
CAN I BE A NEET UNDER COMUNISM AND JUST TAKE OTHER PEOPLES "FREE" THINGS?
this shit is retarded as fuck

>>138706899
>extremism is Nazi germany
>Marxism is mostly fine
You should read before Shitposting, Marxism is inherently flawed, it advocates for anarchy its a philosophical model not a real political ideology

>>138706878
>By examining history and realizing its a series of class struggles.

But this does not take into account all the different reasons throughout history for conflict, such as religion, ethnicity, territory , etc.

>>138707140
>CAN I BE A NEET UNDER COMUNISM AND JUST TAKE OTHER PEOPLES "FREE" THINGS?

No, you work as a factory slave for 50 cents at the end of the day even though food and water would cost you more then what you earn, I guess thats why communist societies usually resort to cannibalism in some what right?

>>138707172

And you should read my posts before shitposting, Pajeet.
The philosophical model of Marx has some accurate points. I'm not the kind of idiot to dismiss someone else's view just because it slightly contradicts my own.

As a political ideology, it is a disaster. That is why I encouraged the Com-flag bearing anons to read up on the history of communism instead of parroting.

>extremism is Nazi germany
If you're going to quote me, quote me and don't alter my words. I said extremism IN Nazi Germany, as in, I admit Nazi Germany historically imploded as an ideology once it became imperialistic and extremist in its actions, and if you disagree with that, that's fine, but don't twist my words in order to seem relevant without even offering a counter argument to anything I said.

>>138707292
This guy is alright. Politics and economics are far more rooted in history and human nature than most people care to admit.

>>138707673
BUT THAT´S NOT REAL COMMUNISM REEEEE
No seriously that´s not real communism, shit gets even more retarded the more it advances from socialism
shit even free market capitalism like the one championed by friedman is closer to marx than those fucking socialist countries that want to be communist

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>>138696997
Thanks God, Russia was liberated
from this shit.

>>138707292
those things are only distractions from the big issues of property ownership. We are generally at a higher consciousness level now than to fight over petty things like religion. If communism succeeds most of the issues would be solved anyway.

>>138708455
I never knew Marxist-Leninist-Maoism was practiced there

>>138707140
Just read the manifesto yourself. i can't teach you everything in brief posts

For my final post, since I'm finally tired of humoring you

OP, you made a thread about Marxism-Lenilist-Maoism, yet throught your posts you expressed that you believe in a society of anarchism with freedom of expression will somehow achieve a endgame of socialism/communism

Which goes in complete opposite in what these three men preached and practiced in their ideology

>>138709236
Communism is basically anarchy, its more of an argument of how we get to that point.

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>>138708818
FUCKING LOL EVERY SINGLE TIME FUCKING FAGGOTS WHATS THE FUCKING POINT OF THESE THREADS IF YOU CANT ANSWER SIMPLE QUESTIONS 20 FUCKING PAGES AND YOU CAN´T ANSWER IT THAT SHIT EXPLAINS NOTHING AND LEAVES MORE ANSWERS THAT YOU DON´T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM

>>138709508
Communism is totalitarian.

>>138709508
Who´s closer to what marx wanted, Milton Friedman or your commie faggots?

>>138709664
to implement plans that are described in manifesto you need to start a WW3 lol

you need to kill 1 billion people to "confiscate all property"

are you mad?

>>138709955
>>138709508
sorry wrong link

>>138709508
to implement plans that are described in manifesto you need to start a WW3 lol
you need to kill 1 billion people to "confiscate all property"
are you mad?

>>138709630
Hey man, it's hard to understand the theories that your (((college professors))) tell you to believe. Cut him some slack.

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>>138696997

>Marxism-Leninism-Maoism analyses historical changes.
If this were true you wouldn't be a communist you fucking retards LOL