2020 PREDICTIONS

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Democrats would have to screw up immensely to lose to Trump again.

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>>138678379

trump won't get reelected

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>>138678379
Trump/Pence vs. Biden/Johnson

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In three years, Trump will have won over millions of people on the fence who bought the bullshit in 2016 that he'd be a tyrant/demagogue/racist/joke-celebrity-candidate/insane/etc. Because let's face it, he definitely isn't any of those even in /pol/ would want him to be.

He will also add many Generation Z supporters who will be able to vote for the first time in their life. They will be a "Trump Youth" like how the 1980s had a "Reagan Youth."

The only ones who'll vote for the Democrats are the screeching, histrionic, violent, race-gender-sexuality obsessed minority, who are going to be a minority in every state except ones like Massachusetts (university students and whites who always vote Democrat, will *almost* go for Trump), Vermont (university students and old hippies, will also almost go for Trump) and Hawaii (minorities, will also almost go for Trump). The only strong Democratic 'state' will be Washington D.C.

California will go red once they're forced to institute proper voter ID laws. There are millions of Republican voters in Cali, many of whom didn't bother voting in 2016 because there was no point. New York will go red because upstate and Long Island and Staten Island are already red, and will go redder. There are also many people in NYC (the ones who aren't frothing at the mouth leftists) who will realize that Trump really is pretty decent at the very least.


and I'm making this thread from the perspective of someone who lives in NYC. I know a few who are already realizing Trump is actually not as bad as they thought.

And I also know quite a few people born in 1995-1998 (considered Gen Z by some) who voted for Trump

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>>138682525
>Minnesota goes republican
>Michigan and Wisconsin stay republican
>Ohio goes dem

Top kek leaf, Trump won Ohio by like 10%, but won Michigan by like 20k votes. Your scenario is literally unbelievable.

>>138678379
It's like way too early to make 2020 predictions that aren't glorified fanfiction.

>>138682982
I don't believe this map is realistic UNLESS the democraps literally split their ticket again.

If the progressives and the libtard moderates finally split aside and another third party grows from their side, then its pretty much ogre.

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>>138683324
It's versus Joe Biden and The Rock, I think they'll do good but won't win
May have made some mistakes tho

>>138678379
>Oregon just passed state-funded abortion for all, kinda doubt they will support any GOP candidate. Too many gibs and cucks have arrived in Portland to outnumber the normal American voter. Hasn't really been close since Bush's 2000 election I think.
>Nevada has a fuck ton of Mexicans, but possible.
>Virginia has a fuck ton of leftists near the D.C. suburbs, and virtually every minority has entered NoVa, but may be possible.
>Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida could all be repeats if Trump does well with the economy and foreign policy.
>Trump was competitive in Minnesota, New Hampshire, and Maine at large, I can buy these given the right opponent and right record.
>Arizona, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, Iowa are all meme-y Democrat talking points for being at-risk in my opinion.

>>138678379
WI, MI, PA, NH, ME, AZ, FL, NC red.
CO close. VA still a 4% margin.

>>138678379
Wow dude, you are really pessimistic about New Jersey.

>>138685597
For NJ to flip, NM would have to flip first.

>>138678379
the entire globe is now an american flag the way trump is going on lol

>>138679817

pretty much this

>>138678379
you realize that there aren't any illegal immigrants voting?

>>138685879
it has been proven illegals have voted,if 1 can then millions can

trump will fix that,i hope he says illegals who vote will be found and have ice at the booths

>>138685597
Colorado, New Mexico, and New Hampshire are more likely

>>138685879
You realize illegals have been proven to vote, right?

>>138683324
Once we make it clear that Biden is a pedophile it would be easy as fuck

>>138686322
They have more of an demographic effect than an electoral one.

>>138678379
Fuck, I want a red Colorado so badly.

It is literally Trump's first year in office. Assuming he doesn't abandon the voter base that put him there, he doesn't have much farther he can fall from the left but everything to gain. He might pass a few bills here and there that get lefty-centrists on board.
Meanwhile blm, antifa etc keep beating old people, protesting free speech, throwing urine in cops faces and shitting up society in general.
As far as his Charlottsville comments, he gained some points with everyone not in a hysteria by calling out the hate and bigotry on both sides, which most people recognize exist. I don't think he's lost any votes he otherwise had because of it.
Unless a 3rd party emerges, or the dnc successfully convinces people that its not affiliated with blm and antifa in any way, I don't see how Trump could lose.

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>>138686620
Trump was ahead in the polls several times. There are a bunch of moderate cuckservatives left in the state that could go for Trump in 2020.

Virginia and Colorado have become blue states. Metro Denver and NoVa are too powerful.

Next go around, if Trump is able to enact part of his agenda and Dems continue with FUCK WHITEY (they will), Trump can win all the states he won before, and possibly add Nevada, New Hampshire, and Maine.

>>138682982
There are four types of traditional (or at least, last few cycles) Democratic strongholds.
1. States with very high racial or demographic minorities (gays, etc.) - Parts of California, inner cities like Detroit with gibs, D.C., Hispanic areas in the Southwest, Hawaii.
2. Union states in the Great Lakes - Trump has stolen most of this advantage.
3. University/Leftist/Cucky areas - Think parts of the New England and Pacific Northwest, the dudeweeds in Denver, parts of Minnesota.
4. Areas with large government intervention - Think Northern Virginia and Maryland, certain subsidy farms areas, around reservations, any place with a well-stocked welfare office.

-There are overlaps here, but here's the key:
Fight globalism, #2 is gone for Democrats.
-Capture the young voters, and consider state-by-state weed policy, and #3 should be competitive.
-Neocons and govt cucks in #4 are nearly impenetrable, so probably can't do much there.
-Trump did surprisingly well with Hispanic voters, remind people constantly there is a difference between illegal and legal and the natural pride of some Texas or Florida Hispanics will cause them to vote against the recently border jumping Guatemalans, Southern Mexicans, El Salvadorians, etc. Also immigration really does need to be enforced. Blacks are lost cause for foreseeable future, Pres Johnson shackled them to the government matrix. So #1 is unlikely to die until identity politics do.

>>138679817
i fucking wish, god i want this

>>138679393
No screw up required. If GDP growth is 3% or better, he'll win in a landslide.

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>>138686937
There's more than Denver than Colorado.

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My only concern in 2020 is some cuckservative faggot running third party and siphoning votes from Trump. McMuffin tried that shit in 2016 but he was too late. Hopefully the GOP can put a stop to any of that nonsense.

>>138686464
Yeah they come in illegally and shit out kids at an alarming rate without contribute meaningful skills or a tax contribution. Therefore the collapse social services, depress areas already financially burdened with poor blacks and few whites, and create an army of Democratic (ie, welfare) voters for the next generation.

It is time to end birth right citizenship. Fuck "we are all immigrants". None of our allies (England, France, Germany, Australia, list goes on) still use birthright citizen. One parent at least had to be a citizen.

>>138687327
Metro Denver (Boulder, Broomfield, Arapahoe counties) anchor the population though, and vote 70-30 Dem. Aspen and La Plata are also elitist Dem strongholds.

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>>138687327
>Those mountain counties

fuck.

>>138687621
I don't think that shit is gonna fly. McMullin could've flipped Utah if cuckservatives really hated him that much, but they still voted for him. Now, McMullin is deep in debt and I don't think any cuckservative will gain traction this time around.

>>138687621
Macron telling the truth and shit lol.

>>138679393
This. Trump's campaign is finally at it's end.

>>138687898

I didn't mean McMuffin specifically. There are other cuckservatives who could try to run third party. Kasich is the most likely one, he could get serious funding from the big Republican donors who don't like Trump.

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So why do liberals say voter ID's are racist? What's the angle they're pushing that it's racist?

>>138688377
My honest guess is that he'll be primaried by 2018 and even if some jewish cunt tries his jewish tricks, it won't affect the outcome of the election.

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>>138688498
Man, why are muslims so barbaric. We really need to keep women in line.

>>138688498
>expecting logic from progressives
come on, anon

>>138686706
After 2018 rolls around, I think it'll be pretty easy to get the legislation he needs passed done. The Senate is a fucking shoo-in, and Pelosi's said she's not worried about the House in 2018 (sounds familiar, right?), after that, the base will be satisfied

>>138688498
its not always easy to get an ID for poor people and black people are poor. the correct solution is to require ID but make IDs easy and free to get

>>138688498

We should know minorities are too poor, lazy and incompetent to do something as basic as getting an ID so it's racist for us to expect them to have one,

>>138688498
because blacks and mexicans are somehow physically or financially incapable of spending $15 at the dmv for an ID.

Somehow, saying that blacks and mexicans are either too fucking stupid or irresponsible with money to visit the dmv and pay $15 to get an ID isn't racist, but wanting them to have one because we want them to be treated as equals is racist.

I don't know..... Seems like bullshit, doesn't it?

>>138689028
>the correct solution is to require ID but make IDs easy and free to get
Even when society sets things up to be as easy as possible for them, they still throw it back in our faces, say we're "racist" and demand more.

It's like pitching a ball to a fat little kid really nice and slow, so he can't possibly miss it, yet he continues missing and then blames the pitcher.

>>138689028
How are IDs difficult and expensive to get?

>>138678379
I predict that California will be worth 500 votes and the left will act like it's not an issue.

>>138678379
Colorado is going red. Their voter rolls just got purged of all the illegals and dead people. 150k voters "dropped out" in a week.

>>138689728
Pot's legal AND they're a red state?

I might move there

>>138678379
Does the 2020 census factor into 2020 electoral college, or is it used for 2024/2028 elections?
Texas, NC, FL, and Colorado have surely grown. Rust Belt and Northeast should be losing seats.

>>138678379
You're delusional. Trump's approval rating is 30% and it's only 6 months in. If he runs again Republicans would be lucky to get 100 electoral votes. If he doesn't run again, they're still going to have an awfully hard time disassociating themselves from his bad image. No way Republicans win next year.

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>>138689848

Weed is legal in lots of other states so every stoner retard in the country isn't moving to Colorado now.

>>138689848
illegals probably voted for weed, unfortunately, CO could go backwards in a few elections

>>138690098
But Colorado is the only place that isn't a commie shit hole I willing to live in besides Maine.

Mark my words - Gen Z will be a Republican generation. Most of their parents are Gen X, who formed most of the people who put the Republicans in power during Reagan and later the Bush administration, and much like them they share a similar development history to their parents. Economic crisis as part of their childhood and adolescence, both parents working a lot; most of them don't have helicopter parents like the Millenials, with the great majority granting their children a high degree of autonomy, growing up in a world where someone you know could be sent to fight halfway across the globe for a war for a sphere of influence...

It's a turnaround for sure, they might even be surprisingly libertarian. The Republicans need to seize the moral high ground, however, and that's going to be difficult.

>>138679393
The leaf is right. Of course they are Democrats though. They'll need some more time to devolve and then try to rebuild. If the Democrats can manage to run a competent and likable candidate in 2020 who isn't too far left, at this pace Trump shouldn't stand a chance.

>>138682982

But does it outweigh the number of libs who stayed home because they thought Hillary had it/liked Bernie, as well as the Stein voters?

This election will have every leftie lib turn out for the Dems since the unthinkable happened with Trump winning.

If I was Trump I'd be nailing down Florida/Pennsylvania/Arizona as hard as I can since he still should comfortably have the rust belt most likely.

>>138689728
Who do I gotta kill to make this a guarantee

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>>138690050
Weren't those the same polls that said Hillary would win in a landslide?

Fuck off corrupt the record cum dumpster

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Lumpy Dumpy Trumpfuck Von Fuckface, if he even lasts until 2020, will be fucking BURIED. Many of his supporters even regret voting for him and let's not even talk about swing voters who got suckered into voting for him.

>>138678379
VOTER ID LAWS

Blue stranglehold states are deflecting and stalling investigation on all fronts. It's only a matter of time before the scams are all blown wide open.

>>138679393
>leaf

>>138689848
I feel that if Sessions bends the knee and lets Trump endorse legalization, then he can get a foothold in Colorado
>>138690050
Congressional elections next year don't look too pretty for Dems. Senate's going to have like 5 blue senators in red states, plus some new blood in traditional blue states (Shiva in Mass). As for the House, it may be competitive, but unless they have a clear message, they're not gong to stand a chance. Even with a 2006-esque voting pattern the right would still have the house just because of geographics.

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>>138688655
But Kasich was made into a big joke by the media since he only stayed in his state basically and just took pictures of himself gorging on fast food.

He's no looker as well.

>>138689521
You are fucking racist. Don't bitch about being called racist when you're fucking racist. The only people who've called for voter IDs in government are assholes who did it EXPLICITLY for racist reasons. Fucking NC already got its fucking hand slapped for this. The majority is NOT in your favor. Rightists have to cheat as hard as they can for decades to win, then like good little soviet propagandists, blame the other side for doing what YOU assholes do.

>>138690461
Yeah, Gen Z will definitely swing some things around, the patterns definitely show more popularity among third parties, I'm still not fully convinced of the based gen Z meme. I would be pleasantly surprised though.

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>>138678379

This is best case scenario for Trump vs whoever. I think that NH, CO and WI are probably going to stay blue, but the others I think he has a real shot of flipping. I don't see him losing any of the states he got in 2016.

>>138691465
gave me a good laugh anon

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>>138691588
You missed the Maine district and the non-continental states. This seems like a fair map, we might get Maine at large to vote for Trump if voter ID is passed.

>>138682982

>liberals are so disillusioned after 2018 mid-terms they stay the fuck home

I think that result would lead to on-air suicides at MSNBC and CNN.

>>138691563
Gen Z is already showing strong signs of being very much a right-wing generation, even if not a conservative one so to speak. Brazil's growing libertarian population being a big example of the rise of right-wing voters in other countrues in the younger demographics - there are more libertarians there than in any other part of the world, and they're young. This coming from Brazil, a country which not long ago was essentially a socialist country.

Gen Z's a turnaround economically and in their view towards the government - not as much socially. Depending on how much Republicans seize a moral high ground, Gen Z might be an extremely important generation.

>>138691941
I also compeltely forgot to fill in Alaska and Hawaii, kek. Oh well we know what they would be anyway.

>>138691563
Gen Z is easily influenced and all young votes are on tone rather than policy or substance.

Whichever side that tries to "own" Gen Z more will lose with Gen Z. Whichever side that ignores Gen Z will lose with Gen Z.
The Democrat tendency to come out and say things like "You're With Us!" is what repels the Gen Z. Watch Trump rhetoric closely as the time approaches. If all he says is something like "All the young people like me" he'll be failing in the Gen Z catagory. If he comes out with a motivational rally like "All these swamp monsters don't understand you, they fear you! They're afraid that if they just step out your way and let you be free, they won't be relevant anymore!" he'll crush it.

>>138679393
This

Listen, hugbox redditors. Not everyone who disagrees with you is deep into psyops or a shill. Some people just disagree. For instance, me.

Rural white voter here. Voting for Trump was possibly the biggest mistake of my life. Probably the worst president we've had in the last 500 years. We must impeach him now and lock up his most fervent supporters. The travel ban is racist and the white house is literally full of islamophobic texts and art. Hate can only be defeated by destroying it from the top down.

On top of his blatant racism, now he is literally destroying the planet earth and ruining young and promising female entertainers' lives. What about our children? Do the right thing, fellow rural white voters. Call your senator or congressman and set things right.

>>138692641
I honestly can't tell anymore which posters are shills, and which are just bait.

>>138692641
But seriously, we can't let him get hsi hands on the nuclear codes

>>138690809
>Winning Ohio
>Not winning election
Go home.

>>138692641
>last 500 years
Bait detected.
>What about our children?
Cuck detected.

Let's talk about a future reality: an economic downturn. We're due. Every market is overstretched, oversaturated, overinvested. The tech bubble will burst. Housing prices will plummet. Banks will fall. People will lose their jobs. People will lose their homes.

This will happen within Trump's presidency, guaranteed. The lower and middle class, that is 97% of this country, will be squeezed out of lives and their wealth. The rich will get richer, the poor will be dirt.

It's the economy, stupid.

Trump will get slaughtered in the next election.

He won't get the nomination.

He will hamfist his way out of a job he already has by deflecting blame and not doing anything.

>>138692543
I can definitely see why Trump would be popular with humor liking teenagers, it's just that afterwards I'm not sure what would happen with the right wing youth advantage. I don't see Warren or Biden getting that type of advantage at all, and Bernie already lost his chance (thank God), so yeah I see Trump having an advantage, but not other Republicans. Maybe if he's the start of a new right wing in the US full of fucking madmen then they'll keep the advantage.

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Scenario: GOP doesn't nominate Trump for re-election, but he runs anyway on an independent, modified ticket.

>>138678379
>Delusion
Drumpf is currently the least popular "president" in history, and the only people who still support him are his base of Stockholm syndrome-stricken rednecks and a handful of literal Nazis. Gum on the bottom of a shoe could beat Drumpf in 2020 at this rate.

>>138693725
Lol fucking Maine.

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>>138678379
Depends on Trump's actions in the next three years.

>>138693725
Hahahahaha. Utah HATES Trump.

>>138693808
I love how retarded rightists think "drain the swamp" just means fascism, not what he actually said which is getting rid of lobbyists and bankers, etc. which he wow somehow just filled his cabinet with.

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>>138693725
My hope is that the GOPe are really not stupid enough to pull a backwards Ross Perot. The party would be done for.

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>>138693922
Your candidate lost a rigged election and you're faggots are still strutting around like she won in a 50 state landslide

Oh I'm sorry, I mean 60-state landslide. Wouldn't want to exclude those extra ten states your "genius" president discovered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

>>138693808
People care more about jobs than anything else desu. People are fine with backdoor dealings and corruption as long as their quality of life isn't negatively impacted.

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>>138693922
You faggots still don't get it, the right doesn't view people from a business background with suspicion, we don't think making money is bad. People who've proven themselves in the private sector clearly have competence AND are free from many of the Washington ties that corrupt career politicians.

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>>138692641
>Rural white voter here. Voting for Trump was possibly the biggest mistake of my life. Probably the worst president we've had in the last 500 years.

>>138695235
>People are fine with backdoor dealings and corruption as long as their quality of life isn't negatively impacted.

And I wished the DC turdfest didn't have an effect on the rest of us, but I'm too cynical to believe that. As an example, just look at Obama's (Un)Affordable Care Act. A corrupt deal that cost Americans billions. If I thought it would placate their greed, I would support giving Congress a $10 million per year salary if they'd clean up their fucking mess. Sadly, I doubt even a hundred times that amount wouldn't be enough.

>>138679393
HE'LL BE IMPEACHED ANYDAY NOW
I MEAN IT FOR REAL YOU GUISE WHY ARE YOU ALL LAUGHING AT ME???
RACIST FASCIST DRUMPFTARDS!!!
>riots
>proceeds to destroy statues and desecrate memorials
>tries to lynch a brown guy from indian
>violently fights blm while calling everyone but yourself racists
>etc

FEDERAL LEGAL WEED

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fuck off normalfag retards

>>138695125
Not my candidate, retard. Get that fucking gadsden flag off. If its creators saw a fascist wear it, they'd skin your teenage ass alive.

>>138695125
>>138695408
>BUT HER EMAILS
I love it when literal, actual paid shills try to call other people shills all day long.

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>>138682982
>commiefornia and jew york city going red
>in this decade
>in the next hundred years

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>>138692641
>pretends not to be from reddit and calls others hugbox redditors
>reddit spacing
even beyond that your post reeks of reddit, how much are they paying you?

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>>138692641

>>138679393
lol ou are so wrong.

I love people who are poltiical newbs try to make predictions.

I predicted trump at the end of 2015, I predict Trump in 2020 after a decent win for republicans in 2018

I would guess democrats will pickup steam in 2020 with some seats, maybe more in 2024.

Pence or some other republican will have "trumps third term" probably big losses for republicans in 2026, with trumps successor being ousted after a term to an opponent challenger.

Unless we have a war, or Turmp is an incredible success somehow down the line in which case Pence (or successor) will get 2 full terms.

>>138685482
Did you see tonight

>AZ go blue
>TX go blue
>GA go blue

Republicans have been on an upswing for a decade all the while the democrats claiming those states will be blue when in the end DEMOCRAT STRONGHOLDS in Wisconsin and Michigan flipped.

The Democrats ascribe to Marxism, they see themselves as the inevitable march of history of the oppressed rising up against the oppresors

But Marx was a fucking tard and thats not how it works in history.

>>138688498
Because niggers are to stupid to get ID;s according to the left.

jej

>>138693725
I hope they do, Bernie is about to split the Democrats

It would be glorius to also see the republicans collapse.

Nothing is worse than these entrenched politcal monoliths we currently have.

>>138693922
you wouldnt know fascism if it crawled up your ass.

FUN FACT most lefties support fascism.

>>138697662
>>138697662
>If its creators saw a fascist wear it, they'd skin your teenage ass alive.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Gadsden

"Christopher Gadsden (February 16, 1724 – August 28, 1805) was the principal leader of the South Carolina Patriot movement during the American Revolution and a soldier and politician from South Carolina. He was a delegate to the Continental Congress and a brigadier general in the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War, a merchant, a slaveholder and slave trader. He was also the designer of the Gadsden flag."

An dead white slaveowner made the Gadsden flag. I'm sure he'd be welcome with open arms to *your* antifa rally, you retarded mongoloid fuck.

>>138682982
yep I am convert and NYC based as well

>>138678379

>OR
>Libshit hive ever going red
>NV
>Just rile up spics and it's lost
>IL
>Implying nig county will just sit there
>VA
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>>138694144
woowwweeee

>>138698641
>But Marx was a fucking tard and thats not how it works in history.

Also, Marx was an asshole oppressor himself. He was a pioneer in leftist hypocrisy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2lCBJu2Gg

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>>138678379
This is what I see as republican's "best case scenario"

>>138679393
Democrats are so smart and they can't let Trump near the nuclear codes

>>138690588
Such as who? Literally: who? Name a democrat who is working, under 80 at 2020, not black and not female

I'm surprised people aren't posting a NY flip. NY is of the same character of PA and MI, which flipped

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>>138692641
damn it at least try you fucker

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>>138699741
wrong picture
>>138692641
(((you)))

>>138699734
literally two of us NYC guys just did...

>>138678379
California going RED FOR TRUMP

SCREENSHOT THIS

>>138692641
Can't wait for the coming war, when we can drag out shills like you from your loft apartments and put you up against a wall.

>>138697960
Why the fuck is Nevada which is near covered by the rocky mountains flooded but Florida is left near untouched?!??!

>hate You

>>138699527
Where is the blue Texas meme coming from?

>>138693789
>real delusion
His enemies are even less popular than him. That is why he keeps winning elections he's supposed to be losing.

Look at the voter registration stats by states. He's GAINING voters in almost every swing state. Particularly big gains in Florida and Pennsylvania. While Ohio and North Carolina remain strong for him. Which means...

Romney states [inc NC] + OH + PA + FL
= 206 + 18 + 20 + 29 = 273

His re-election is already guaranteed. And that is the worst case scenario. Unless something big changes, Trump is gonna your President till 2025. Get used to him.

>>138700196
Because the map is retarded.

It all depends on who the Dems run as well as competing Republicans in the 2020 primaries or GOP candidates deciding to go independent...do not forget: There are neocon "NeverTrumpers" that have expressed interest in running against Trump in 2020, so it's not just the Dems you have to be worried about.

My predictions for Trump victories and failures depending on which candidate is chosen:

TRUMP WINS IF THE CANDIDATE IS...

>Kanye West (100% chance of a Trump win)
>Chelsea Clinton (95% chance of a Trump win)
>Zuckerberg (85% chance of a Trump win; Zuck may have an obscene amount of power but EVERYONE except TPTB hates this slimy fuck...remember, search "zuckerberg sweat")
>Hillary (80% chance of a Trump win)
>Tulsi Gabbard (75% chance of a Trump win...also, the only Dem or GOP candidate I'd actually be okay with him losing to)
>Ted Cruz (70% chance of a Trump win)
>Lincoln Chaffee (65% chance of a Trump win)
>Martin O'Malley (60% chance of a Trump win)
>John Kerry (55% chance of a Trump win)

TRUMP LOSES IF THE CANDIDATE IS...

>Biden (85% chance of a Trump loss)
>Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson (80% chance of a Trump loss)
>Michelle Obama (80% chance of a Trump loss)
>Elizabeth Warren (75% chance of a Trump loss)
>Cory Booker (70% chance of a Trump loss)
>Bernie Sanders (65% chance of a Trump loss)
>Marco Rubio (60% chance of a Trump loss)
>John Kasich (60% chance of a Trump loss)
>Oprah Winfrey (55% chance of a Trump loss)
>Mark Cuban (55% chance of a Trump loss)

>>138700289
hispanics in texas

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>>138678379

>>138678850
Guaca-merchant couldn't win an election for mayor. The dude is done. He's moved on to 'really cool things' he could be doing remember?

>>138700543

John fucking Kerry? Why would he be nominated again?

Michelle Obama?

>>138700289
Because libs think hispanics are a monolithic voting block that WILL vote democrat like niggers.

That is just a stupid and false assumption.

A bunch of conservatives believe this too despite something like 1/3 of Hispanics in AZ, New Mexico, Tx and CA being conservative.

>>138700363
Btw, Dems regaining control of Congress in 2018 is also nigh impossible for the same reasons. This is what happens when you appeal only to coastal states. You'll win Mexifornia in a landslide. But not much else.

>>138700543
Trump will win in 2020, its inevitable, the Democratic party may not even exsist by then.

>>138678379
Trump wins popular vote but loses electoral college, though he still gets re-elected

>>138700543
Marco Rubio isn't a diehard R but he's no traitor. Kasich I worry about. Sort of. Sanders and Warren, please

>>138700620
How does he win NJ but not NM

>>138687173
>last time gdp growth was above 3% was in 2005

>>138699527
How do the Republicans take Oregon and lose the Great Lakes? Your map is retarded.

>>138699734
literally Joe Biden, easily would wreck Trump

>>138701561
You think spics are going to vote for Trump? Nah.

>>138678379
>Republicans
>Winning even bigger in 2020
Trump is still probably going to win but it is going to be by a much smaller margin at the rate he has gone. He has gone so far to placate the left that he has completely alienated his base.

>>138684045
but why ohio and not michigan or wisconsin

>>138701870
Texans never seem shut the fuck up about muh based spics though.

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>>138701812
not a chance pal if Obama is too moderate for the new dems so's Uncle Joe

>>138701952
First time that ever happened was Obama in 2012

But we are living in strange times so who knows.

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Look at this map: >>138687327

If your state has a single blue county you should kill yourself

>>138701870
Not a majority, but Trump did do a lot better with them than anyone expected. Also, New Jersey is full of Basketball Americans while NM isn't. Both states are long shots, but NJ is probably a longer shot than NM.

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Trump will win in 2020

>>138703003
NY in both scenarios is quite ambitious

>>138702155
Trump has the issues that his core base is already fairly small, the left will no longer be cocky (the 90% chance of Hillary winning likely resulted in many Democrat voters staying home as they assumed Clinton would win anyway), and Trump despite the alienation of his base hasn't actually ingratiated himself to the left or even the core of the Republican party.

Honestly though at this point I want Trump and the entire Republican party to lose horribly in 2020, 2024, 2028, and 2032. Hopefully that would finally kill off the Republican party allowing a party with some young blood to actually change things. FFS I would rather have a radical Christian conservative party at this point over the Republican party and I'm an Atheist.

>>138703460
>an camp
>atheist
>I would rather have a radical theological party then Trump and some globalist GOP hacks

no you wouldnt you edgy shill faggot.

>>138703460
The only reason Trump ran as a Republican was because he knew you simply aren't allowed to win as a 3rd party candidate. Imagine being a youngster running 3rd party, you'd have no chance. Hell, young people can't even drive or find jobs.

>>138703217
the only place hillary clinton did considerably better than trump in new york was in the city, and even then i'm pretty sure trump was able to snag at least a couple boroughs
other than that it's trump territory
so depending on who the nominee is for the democrats, which they haven't even begun to toss out an idea about and campaigning will begin in about 18 months, they'll most likely lose new york. i don't see it being that crazy

>>138703614
At least the theocrats wouldn't eat themselves alive. Seeing the Republican party being unable to pass even the most basic pieces of legislation that they have been talking about passing for half a decade and constantly attacking their president is downright pitiful.

>>138703731
Than maybe living in a pseudo one-party state would motivate people to rise up. Either way the US would be better off if the dying Republican party finally choked to death on its vomit.

>>138703889
And yet you believe that Trump will gain votes in NY as a whole why? Who actually looks at Trump now and says "I didn't vote for him in November but I will probably vote for him in 2020"?

>>138704042
People who have become disillusioned with the Democrat party.
Also, people don't have to vote for Trump for him to win, they just have to not vote Democrat. remember that.

>>138704275
>People who have become disillusioned with the Democrat party.
Who is more disillusioned with the Democrat party now than in 2016? The Democrat party hasn't done anything horrible and have managed to hold the line keeping Trump care from passing. The Republican party meanwhile has enough dominance throughout the country to pass a constitutional amendement and couldn't replace OR repeal Obamacare which is something Republicans have been talking about pretty much since the moment it was passed. They passed multiple repeals while Obama was in office but once they have a Republican in office and they can pass repeals and not have them immediately vetoed they failed to accomplish anything.

>>138678379
>NY still blue
fuckin hate this state.

>>138704669
>muh fuckin health care
jesus dude i think you put entirely too much investment in people's opinions and feelings about the government passing health care bills and not nearly enough in the fact the democrats have completely lost their voter base anywhere outside of NYC and LA. Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if illinois turned red desu. It's not like registered felons can vote so there goes the nigger vote there

I've noticed in my town that people are watching local elections alot more closely since the antifa faggots started throwing shitfits. Ready to lose every single seat demoshits?

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Best Case

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>>138705290
worst case

>>138705288
Kek bless these digits.

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If the wall doesn't get built

>>138705114
Can you name a single positive thing Trump has done or a single negative thing the Democrats have done that would be enough to change almost a million votes in New York alone? Because that is the margin Hillary won New York by.

>>138705589
Wall St. doing better than ever
Dems destroying cities

>>138706168
>Wall St. doing better than ever
Stock markets are extremely volatile, believing that Trump will have widespread success is retarded. Remember the stock market was also at an all time high in late 2007.
>Dems destroying cities
Too bad the media is shilling against the right so hard that the main groups being condemned are the alt-right.

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>>138678379
>illinois
>red

jesus, i wish.

>>138706842
Valid points but you asked for a positive Trump thing and negative Democrat thing and I gave em to ya and I believe they're adequate answers, may not get him NYC but I don't think he'll be as hated next election as he was in 2016, hard to imagine it
Personally I was hoping for a revolution in the DNC, I thought they'd rebuild themselves in an honorable and sellable way, never did I think they'd double down
But I guess that's because the DNC is more concerned with running (((their))) agenda these days than they are with impressing their base

>>138707156
>But I guess that's because the DNC is more concerned with running (((their))) agenda these days than they are with impressing their base
The same could easily be said of the GOP which criticizes Trump and the alt right far more than they criticize the Democrats or Antifa.

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>>138682982
This is 2016 based only on gen Zyklon

Utah is blue for some weird reason. I think it has something to do with mormons.

>>138686620
>>138689728
All Trump has to do to win Colorado is endorse legalizing weed.