New Third Party

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>>138662175
A party that is openly NatSoc will go no where

>>138662515
The point of what Im saying, is that it can not be openly so. We arent calling it a political party of the past. We share many ideas but we are not waving nazi flags for a reason. It needs to be new and welcomes all real patriotic Americans.

>>138662175
And having a new flag is a bad idea. Everyday Americans won't join if the current flag is replaced.

OP is either too young to remember the Reform Party and what Roger Stone had to do to kill it, or this is a shill thread of sage proportion.

>>138662795
It doesnt replace the old flag, it goes right below it to signify our party. The American flag always goes on top.

>>138662798
>(((Roger Stone)))

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>>138662795
Also, we have had several different flags throughout history. We are actually a bit over due, because our current establishment which waves our current flag is indeed compromised and does not have American interests at heart at all.

>>138662175
Leave german symbolism behind.
It's pretty fucking retarded seeing americans screaming "sieg heil". You're american for fucks sake, i also have german ancestry but i don't go painting swastikas everywhere.
Also nice flags, did you do it?

>>138662175
>American Nationalist Party?
Probably it's worth to replace the word "Nationalist" with something more neutral. Eurocentric? Nativist? Still would be "racist", but on an acceptable level

I support any efforts of the kind, though

>>138662175
You're just right wing, and you'll end up voting Republican regardless. Just like how the moral majority considered themselves independent rather than Republican, just like how the tea party considered themselves independent instead of Republican, just like how the alt-right considers themselves independent instead of Republican.

You all do this every time and it always turns out the same. This is why Trump considers you useful idiots.

>>138662175
non autist here. KYS

barring that, don't do any of this.

assuming you will anyway, join any of the thousands of losers who already did it

or other third parties. Whigs are still around. They support industrial expansion.

Or just KYS

>>138663345
I agree, definitely. Thats why Im saying this. It has nothing to do with german ideology/symbolism. However it carries with it the spirit of independence that our founding fathers left with us to re-embark on their journey. The key here is it being American.

>>138663567
>le there is no choice goy, 2 parties in a rigged (((capitalist))) society

I would rather we rekindle our American pride than wait for my brothers and sisters broke, starving and jobless. Or worse. I am not dissuaded.

>>138662175
Awesome idea, bump

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>>138662175
Hey Ameribros, if youre going to make fascist symbols and finally drop the nazi larping stuff, go with OPs pic aesthetic. It's awesome.

I hope one of you fly this as a flag at the next free speech protest or whatever the fuck

>>138664472
irrelevant sorry
Americans only please

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>>138662175
Do dis

>>138664729
I'll do it if someone can point me to where I can have one screened and mass-produced?
Im not sure where I found it but I would like to credit its creator.

>>138662175
Third parties are autistic nonsense
Trump proved it is more effective to just take over a mainstream party

>>138664877
A step in the right direction, thank you.
Lets get some more in here. This is constructive.

>>138662175
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=68e_1503442017

>>138665025
When you meet mass resistance from neocon faggot kikes it doesn't exactly make it easy. Trump himself eventually caved even with this Afghanistan bullshit. On top of that virtually his entire cabinet has been replaced.

>>138665025
Why are we still under the impression that trump wholeheartedly has our behalf? We all know he is a puppet just like the rest. How would a non-billionaire accomplish this. This is the very thing we need to overcome.
We The People!!!

>>138664995
GET THE FUCK OUT
We are anti-Communist,
Anti-Capitalist
Anti-Federal Reserve bank slavery

>>138665497
Anti-jewish capitalism, you mean

>>138665497
You're just giving it want it wants. That's what it's here to do is derail. Ignore it and eventually it'll get the sense that it's not wanted or heeded (like when it's around its parents) and leave, hopefully.

>>138663567
>Whigs are still around
Whigs are liberals.

>>138662175
>Do this
>Democrats win every election from now on.

You are a special kind of stupid. The best way to make this is a reality is to start going to Republican primaries and put in nationalist candidates rather than necons. Forming a new party that will just fail and put socialists in charge because you divided the vote is just fucking stupid.

>>138665764
Capitalism is intrinsically jewish

>>138665764
Capitalism contains a detrimental fallacy where it materialism and MONEY has taken control of our government entirely and its filthy greed needs to be stopped. It is no better than Communism which is obviously is reverse-reality.
We need Natural Order

>>138665962
does it fucking matter?

>>138666112
how do we funnel people into being useful in a non capitalist society?
i mean if there's no money as compensation for your contribution to society how do we stop people from becoming useless pos?

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>>138662175
check out Henry George
Free Markets
Nationalized Natural Resources
Lease out Natural Resources to fund UBI/Infrastructure/etc

>>138666065
Both parties are literally the same. No matter how much we "vote" nothing will change. The system is rigged. This is the very problem and why we need to offset these to false parties by introducing a true final third party that the Banks do not control.

Flag aint bad but the triangle should be pointing upward as that has become a universal symbol of identitarianism. We should stick with that, regardless of any other design elements

>>138666065
Then make a fourth party just for democrats

>>138664881
FB search edgeworths emporium

We've already started.

discord /VurWug

Also as far as making another party goes

co-opt the republican party while creating several race-baity democratic-leaning parties to divide and conquer the lefts vote. Niggers and spics vote by race anyway, so find a BASED black guy to pretend to be a shitlib and make a shitlib party for neegroes

If the dems call you out, you call them RAYCISS fo wantin tuh keep down yuh bruthas n sistuhs. do the same with spics and dems will NEVER win ever again.

>>138666440
There can be money, however not money in terms that we are currently familiar with. We need Notes not backed in phony gold or silver, or debt-based oil-money. It needs to be backed up by labor... the working American citizens workforce will propel itself without international money exchange. Barter will be used outside of the country to eliminate exchange rates and foreign profiteers. Usury will be abolished and debts cleared. We start over, with a new financial system in favor of the People, not the money itself.

>>138662175

we need to organize in our communities. I'm starting a similar political party, but if we get national recognition it benefits all.

email me redonko349@gmail

desu you dont need any third party thats a stupid waste of time. You need a well-financed lobbyist group. you need to offer something useful. if you can guarantee a million votes, a million dollars, a million-dollar PR stunt, then you will get somewhere fast.

>>138666511
You can CHANGE the party from within. You just need to show up at the fucking rallies. If both parties were the same then Rand Paul would never have gotten a nomination. You just need to show up at the primaries and get your guy in as the official candidate. This is significantly easier and more realistic than your plan. It is actually really fucking easy to get your guy as a nominee over a neocon. Just get 100 of your guys to attend the primary nomination. All vote for your guy and logically at least a couple people there not part of your group will vote for him too. Congrats you got the nomination and now you just have to face the Democrat. Hell of a lot easier than your plan. In fact I have already been doing this on a local level for years. I have personally kicked out 3 neocons from local politics and replaced them with nationalists.

>>138668186
This. Co-opt, subvert, while d&cing the other side. This is what kikes do and it's working. Beat them at their own game.

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You will be killed by mossad if you were successful. See catholic JFK those christ killers took care of for more.

>>138662175
A lot of ppl are going to say this is a dumb idea, but a lot of ppl are dumb and could use a history lesson. I don't think this is a bad idea, though I would largely agree that it may not pan out short-term (say by next election, or even 2024,) however, long-term this is the ONLY solution. Co-opting existing parties requires massive compromise and inevitably leads to corruption of core principles.

Great flags bro.

>>138665025
If you're running for president maybe. But change needs to occur more on the local level.

>>138662175
Quit memeing and just do it. Be a leader, faggot.

>>138662175

if you don't Heil Hitler, it's because you're a faggy little bitch. sorry, punk. stay out of politics. you're not smart enough.

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>>138662175
This will only divide your support in elections and unite an opposition against you

There is an effort to define American Nationalism as White Nationalism. This is correct
1) Lead your opposition to oppose a powerful symbol. this is how to control them as they seek something to give their efforts justification.
2) Uniting under the american flag will divide the opposition and support into American vs. Anti-American, whereas flying a partitioning flag will divide your own support and unite the opposition against you. You cannot fly the flag of an old historical adversary (even if it was a mistake) and expect to receive wide cultural, financial, and international support.
3) It is lawful in every way to carry the U.S. flag and say anything you want to define it. Force fed red pills.
4) If America is an openly pro-white majority and non-whites accept that, it is a win.
5) Any government in the U.S. (local, state, federal) will feel obligated to protect the U.S. flag as a symbol, and any violence against it cannot be portrayed as moral.
6) Any partitioning symbology (confederate flag) will be perceived as weak individualism by strong people and leaders. You should at least want to try to have your ideas integrated into the massive institutions that already exist. Partitioning the U.S. when it is not absolutely necessary would have to be the dumbest thing, for only the dumbest people.

>>138662175
14/76! We should call it The Founders Party

Bumping because I want a non-Nazi-LARPing WN movement.

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>>138662175
pursuing a third party for what should be America the way it was founded is an admission to defeat. It will only isolate your movement from the general public and give the Trotsky republicans freedom to push whatever objective they wish as mainstream republicans.

>>138662175
American Nationalist Party is good. Simple and straight to the point. The main focus should be on the ACTUAL views of the Founding Fathers. Not the modern kike conservatism we see today.

The flag should always be the standard American one.

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I'll stick with this

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>>138662175

>>138662175
> Names, flags, symbols, etc.
This is why losers lose. Cone up with a coherent platform first. Hire people to do graphic design later. Form should always follow function.

>>138673392
Take notes, OP

The Jews are paranoid as hell of anything right-wing. Whatever name you come with with or flags, they'll infiltrate you and shut it down by larping as Nazis, then all their Jewish journalists and stuff will unleash a MSM media wave to shit on your movement. Its by the best interest to completely kick out or remove anyone larping as nazis.

If you have protests you need an entrance area to be screened and larper sent back.

>>138662175
Fuck off trash, third party are a meme designed to get people to vote against their interests, if you gain any financial backing, it will only be from party's who's values you least identify with in order to draw votes away from the party more aligned with your interests.

>>138674005
this

>>138673392
It's a meme on /g/ that any time they try to get together and work on something, all anyone talks about is the logo. A lot of logo discussion is banned on open source websites.

>>138662515
Why not national capitalism then?

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>>138664741

fuck off burguer faggot

>>138675091
Capitalism is inherently anti-national. The only way to have a capitalist system focused on the nation is to have government regulation like what Trump wants to do to outsourcing companies.

So... quickly national captialism turns into national socialism

..

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Mfw the people who came to America weren't Democrat or republican.. They created a new nation not enslaved to (((British))) central banks. They didn't need to join a corrupt pre-existing party for the future nation to be exploited and ruined. We must take the founding fathers ideas and incorporate them into the modern world.

>>138675280
It's my thread for Americans. Gtfo

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>>138662175
The only successful 3rd party that can come about in this political climate is a middle of the road kind, like a Libertarian who doesn't care socially and preaches "sensible" stuff economically.

If, let's say, the Libertarian Party gained popularity, then there could be a 4th and 5th party; each would be far-left and far-right versions of their respective mainstream party. Think Progressive Party (far-left) and Nationalist Party (far-right).

This all, however, would take at least a full 2 presidential elections cycles, all with very, very dissatisfied voters who instantly become very eager about these new movements.

>>138674699
>Underestimating the power of symbols
>having no representation of a movement to follow behind
Who do you shill for?

I don't see how these flags are any less American looking than the current American flag. Stars and stripes included.

>>138662175
>American Nationalist Party? Can I get some non-autistic advice? Names, flags, symbols, etc. please.

As an American nationalist I think the only flag you should use is the American flag. Here's a quote from Teddy Roosevelt which I think serves as a good starting point for American nationalism:

>“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American … There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

To this I would the qualifier that the American people are a White English Speaking Protestant people. We are not a nation of immigrants or a judeo-christian nation. We are a distinct people with a distinct history and a distinct culture. In that culture we have an ethos of conversion and assimilation, true, but those who wish to join us must truly join us. We are not to be expected to "tolerate" those who refuse to live in accord with our laws and our values. This standard must also apply to those born in this country. No man born here should be considered a real American if does not honor our flag, show loyalty to our people, respect our laws, and live by our values. Such a man may be counted a citizen of the United States, but he is not in any way a real American.

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I think one bold star is best

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>>138662175
>/pol/ I want to organize politically. I do not label myself a republican, alt-right or otherwise.
Right. Americans are trained to gravitate towards the name brands though...republicans/democrats...Bush Clinton...It's real fucking problem They are trained to conform, it's a psychological longing...

>>138662175

>Are we just a meme ideology or can we actually organize.

Yes.

>Deport whoever's here illegally
>Let everyone who's a fair and square citizen stay
>Halt all legal immigration
>Promote republican social platforms from twenty years ago
>Enforce whatever's already on the books

Literally all you gotta do.

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>>138662175
The United States Sovereign Party

Kek wills it!

>>138682848
Can't we skip to ending the fed and have all of that done simultaneously? What's the driving force behind immigration? What's already on the books is full of loopholes and contradictions. The proverbial books have been desecrated.

>>138678766
>respect our laws
Or use the proper process of petition>gather signatures>ballot initiative>voters decide. That's what gives us a voice.

>>138683314
dropping the fed-pill are we eh?
old school

>>138677705
I guess I can finally say I'm a true /pol/ (what do we call ourselves goys, /pol/earms?) I'm a true /pol/earm now that someone has accused me of shilling.

>>having no representation of a movement to follow behind
What fucking movement? OP did not list a single platform for his party other than "white nationalism" and what does that even mean? Does it mean send the blacks to Florida? Does it mean fuck off to another country with all the white people? Or is it just civic nationalism but we're allowed to say nigger? Do you fuckers actually agree on anything? Start with that retard.

>>138683548
Like really.
How do we explain where (((democracy))) failed our country.
Who is responsible for 9/11
Why we are in never ending war for over 200+ years, nearly consecutively
The 20 trillion dollar debt
The devaluation of our currency and the poverty all around us

Why was there a revolutionary war again?
Why were JFK and Lincoln shot?
We need the American Nationalist Party

>>138662175
>natsoc
>peaceful

Yeah I'm sure you can just ask the big bad Jews nicely to stop bothering you.

>>138684495
Lincoln was shot because the guy who shot him thought he was an anti-American tyrant for annexing another state in order to win a vote.

(he was right)

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>>138684791
we will help them pack

>>138684791
Does the elephant in the room ever get noticed? How long does it sit there before everyone sees it.

>>138662175
Use our coat of arms, red, white, and blue. I'd go with a single star to represent unity.

Try for something less obviously nationalist for a name would be my suggestion. Something like Patriots of America party or something. Just try not to give the leftists any more ammo than you have to.

>>138684801
And the rest of what I said? If you have the answers then you're just the guy for us.

>>138685268
>Just try not to give the leftists any more ammo than you have to.
newfags need to fuck off with this. It does not matter. The left will call you a nazi no matter how carefully you dance around the issue. And a party for white nationalists can't really dance around the issue lest it become the republican party again, anyway. Nationalist is fine.

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>>138686032
Yeah, the kikes. Are you happy? It was the fucking kikes.

>>138686109
Yes America is unfortunately limited to civic nationalism. It HAS to be civic before it evolves organically any other direction. The goyim must unite against the banklords.

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Lets Meme it into reality

>>138686109
You'll die no matter what too, doesn't mean you should jump of the nearest fucking bridge though. It costs nothing to think ahead a little bit and steal some of their tactics.

If you are too stupid to see this maybe you should don your kekistan cloak and let your betters do the thinking.

>>138686391

wow nice magic cards

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>>138686469
It won't be civic. Niggers will always hate us. They have since we taught them to read. There's no use even trying. Now is the best time to gather whites together, because whites are angry and waking up. And I hate to say it friendo, but if we let it "evolve organically", there won't be any whites to be nationalists.

>>138662175

I need to start saving more of these flags but I really want to do the same. But if we are going to form a new Nationalist party we need to drop the socialist part. Seriously. Adolf was the greatest fucking troll in history getting the normies to reject the communists with the "socialist" amendment to nationalist.
So I have thought pretty long about this my self and I think we should form the LION party. Liberty In Our Nation. Its an easy animal symbol and party name and has a built in slogan that would resonate with any liberty inclined American.
Didn't Reagan say something about needing lions in the congress and having fucking pussy cats?

>>138662175

American Party.

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>>138662175
it will be so.

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>>138686610
What does the media and the general populus say about the alt-right and 4chan? We're all nazis, right? So why does /pol/ keep growing? Why does alt-right keep growing? Why does WHITE NATIONALISM continue to get more popular?

>>138687082
Almond activating anon. I look at it like this. Blacks have been lead to believe they were slaves, but none have ever been let free. We have all been made slaves. And we need an uprising against the fraudulent masters. Can white people do it alone, or do we demonize ourselves further with no help from other races. We have a common foe.

>>138671257
F A G G O T

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>>138688061
Okay, you can try your best to lead the "whites aren't your oppressors, it's actually the jews" initiative to the 85 iq unwashed masses, but I don't see it working out.

Then we still have the problem of living with blacks.

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At least it would get us closer to what we should be

>>138689473
N I G G E R

Bring back the Anti-mason party

freemasonry is judasim for goyim and it is cancer everywhere.

>>138662175
join the club

>>138663375
National Party.

>>138664995
Shut up, you don't have rights.

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We need to be anti-marxist straight out and say it. Cultural Marxism must be actively opposed.

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>>138662175
A single white star should be the symbol.

>>138662515
This, you might as well be the Nazi party which already exists. Look how well they are doing. You will be bashed every bit as hard because it's just as much against the Jewish plan.

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>>138692971
hooray for the Bonnie blue flag that bares a single star.

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>>138662175
>white nationalist
>natsoc
>a party we can all get behind, regardless to color but wishes to preserve our culture, heritage, traditions and culture respectively.

you mean a party that is socially conservative and is not natsoc or white nationalist?

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>>138662175
I think we should focus first on stopping Jewish wars.

An explicitly antiwar message that is deeply anti-Semitic yet cannot be associated with the warlike Nazis.

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>>138695132
Another positive about this message is that it will deeply redpill people when they realize that the Iraq War was openly a Jewish conspiracy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whose-war/

White Nationalist.
Patriotic.

So, what is your actual political and economic position?

>>138694974
You do realize natsoc is preserving ones race no matter color and not destroying others

>>138696069
yes

>not destroying others
how would you defend your race from others trying to destroy you?

>preserving ones race
what would you do with the people of other races living in your country? how would you prevent them from race mixing and eroding the race from within?

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>>138687435
>form the LION party. Liberty In Our Nation. Its an easy animal symbol and party name...
reminds me of the Taxed Enough Already party.
quite frankly I LIKE IT, L.I.O.N. + T.E.A. could be a 3rd party teamup (?) an for the logo just use the trump lion from his "unofficial guard squad".
>pic related (?) my 2 cents

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_Guard
>pic related (?)

>>138666984
Yes that is the correct way. Back the dollar by the labour of the American people. Course that has been tried before bt Lincoln, kennedy, and Hitler. We need to get out from under the thumb of the Rothschilds and the federal Reserve which they own... You will die in the process however.