how fucked are democrats?

>>138660949

can we stop with the Republican/Democrat meme? They're both shit

But yes leftists are completely fucked.

>>138660949

Pretty fucked.
The only thing the left is winning at is yelling loudly and puffing out their chests like a cornered animal trying to make itself bigger than it is.

>>138660949
I don't think they realize just how fucking screwed they are for the senate in 2018. Basically every Democrat up for senate re-election in 2018 is very unpopular. Especially that woman in Michigan who is going to be up against kid rock. Even worse the Democrat is West Virginia is about to lose in a landslide. Just make sure to go to your primaries to make sure no neocons get the Republican nominations. We need to purge neocons.

The pendulum always swings back the other way. Remember that Republicans were in a similar position just a few years ago. This happens because nobody does shit and the population, which is retarded and has a short memory, votes for the other party when they should be considering a third option.

>>138661204
>>138661257
even the RNC can't lose a majority in this situation
>>138661389
the pendulum hasn't swong so far since the 30s tho

>>138660949
Not fucked at all, there's even a reasonable chance they will basically run the table in the Senate like they did in 2006. You could see even Texas go blue as it's been trending that way for years and a midterm D surge could be enough. Ted Cruz's approval is currently in the dumps and likely to get worse.

>>138661257
>Just make sure to go to your primaries to make sure no neocons get the Republican nominations. We need to purge neocons.
This.

>>138661389
>when they should be considering a third option.
Your other options are literal communists in the green party or open borders libertarians who want to abolish all welfare programs. Neither of those parties are going anywhere.

>>138661612
Is how Democrats take the Senate.

>>138661759
By purging neocons? Neocons get lose votes then other Republicans when they are the nominees. The problem is the people who go to primaries are usually the neocon minority/

>>138661759
>democrats
>winning anything in a midterm
Only whites vote in midterms and the democrats are busy calling them pure evil 24 hours a day.

>>138661964
Apparently you weren't self aware in 2006. Because it happened bigtime.

>>138662095
Perhaps you don't remember that we were voting out those very same neocons in 2006. But then you couldn't even vote.

>>138662095
since then the DnC have catered exclusively to minorities

>>138661604
What's wrong with Ted Cruz? I don't live in Texas but I hadn't heard of any major catastrophies that he would be responsible for.

>>138661964
Neocons got voted out in mass in 2006.

>>138662095
That is because George W Bush and the neocons were at their height of power. It will happen again if neocons aren't purged. Only a small minority of Republicans fit in as a neocon in fact its less than 10% of the voting base. When they looked at the views of the voters over half of the Republican base fit in as a paleoconservative. Yet only a tiny amount of paleos are ever nominated like Mike Lee and Ted Cruz.

>>138661121
>calling dems leftists

Thats like ralling republicans rightwing. Theyre all worthless centrists.


Anyway dnc is fucked because they still wont acknowledge why trump actually won, they arent trying to reconnect with voters at all, just obsessing with potus and russia, its a disaster

>>138662573
Media and dems are abandoning the Russian narrative since they got Bannon out of the whitehouse. They are hoping it will turn Trump into just another neocon.

>>138662466
>When they looked at the views of the voters over half of the Republican base fit in as a paleoconservative.
source?

And Ted Cruz and Mike Lee aren't paleocons, people like Buchanon are

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Both the left and right establishment are finished. No one trusts in them or believes in them.

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A more accurate view of the future of politics in America is South Africa, Venezuela, and Zimbabwe.

>>138660949
why do the reps for MN look like the opposite of what they should be?

>>138662402
Ted fuckin rules, I believe in Texans enough to think he will stay

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Drumpf is not getting that second term, that second....skewp.

FWOARNALD FWUMPF FWOOOARRRRRRRRRR

>>138660949
The Democrats are all niggers. They hate whitey now.

>>138662965
It's full of nordics and their pet somalis.

>>138663446
and they vote red?

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>>138663446
even with all the somalis i just dont understand why the areas around the twin cities are red yet everything else is blue

>>138663446
>>138663650
>>138663773
this seems like a slow people conversation

>>138663773
it does seem autistic to vote the opposite in presidential and legislative elections

wtf

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>>138663650
No, but it's why the rural areas are blue just like the cities.
>>138663773
As I recall, the 2016 presidential election is the outlier.

>>138660949

The Senate elections are critical for the future of the country. The cuckservatives/RINOs, and neocons need be voted out and replaced with nationalists who will support Trump. We cannot fuck this up. We got Trump elected with memes, we need to do it again in the senate elections. As it stands, Trump can't do much with the current Republican establishment.

>>138661604
Depends on how many people are deported.

>>138661620
>libertarians

O that's a laff, remember when they tried to be taken seriously before Gary Johnson showed the depth and intellect of the best of their party? Top kek

>>138661612

This x10000. Also if you're in Arizona get McCain out of there what the fuck is wrong with you guys

>>138660949
Fucked?

Demography is destiny. They will have a permanent majority, and they will have it for decades.

But for the immediate term, I think they will benefit from a lot of betrayed Republicans staying home in 2018.

>>138661620
>green party
>communists

they're social democrats are most which makes them only far enough left to still be considered centrist.

>>138664917
we have a large boomer population, and no one gives a shit about primaries that arent presidential besides boomers
>I LOVE JOHNNY BOY MCCAIN
>HE WAS A VET IN VIETNAM
>PEE OHH DUBBLE YEW
>IF MCCAIN WAS PRESIDENT WE WOULDNT HAVE HAD A (((NIGGER))) LIKE OBAMA RUIN EVERYTHING
ect ect ect

>>138662573
The Republican party is fractured and in the onset of reformation. The Democrats are by way of both internal and external pressures retaining solidarity with their alt-left base. So if the Democrats can't keep the Republicans from gracefully forming, they and their leftist extremist element are unilaterally fucked.

>>138661389
the bipartisan government is a scam against the people that takes responsibility and accountability away from the government. when something bad happens, it's either the fault of the liberals or the conservatives, not the fault of the government. so people play back and forth between two systems and neither of them are accountable for anything in the minds of the populace, core government and deep state continue to do whatever they want.

The republican party's reformation begun at Trump's presidency. The Democrats haven't even started any reform.

I'm hoping that congress learns to get along through their mutual disgust of the president. If the next president is a moderate they may be able to pass legislation that pleases thier constituents more than it displeases. We can get away with this obfuscating nonsense like abortion, gay marriage, what gender shits where, etc.

>>138666789
>The Democrats are by way of both internal and external pressures retaining solidarity with their alt-left base.
I'm not convinced everything is peachy in demtown.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=H4T8uqWsFAc

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>>138661121

>>138672566
>Nazi flag
>Centrist
It's quite obvious where he lies

>>138666789
>>138667436
the reformation isn't going well tho

they can't pass shit in congress and still hate each otehr

>>138670839
No shit. Three years of divisive identity politics will ultimately kill you. It's why Chuck Schumer was trying really hard to tiptoe out of that ring and into economics with his "Better Deal". It's also why Trump said "let's ban trannies from armed service": it forced the Democrats to jump back on the identity politics and abandon blue collar America again, while Trump took all the credit for a $10bn investment by Foxconn to create some rust belt jobs.

This is that 4D chess you hear about.

>>138672927
republicans are still objectively better from a natsoc POV

he's just a retard who thinks swastikas look cool

>>138673058
Reformations never go well for a political movement; it's a moment of vulnerability for anyone. Like I said in >>138673064, Schumer was trying that, and Trump is pulling outrageous stunts to knock their teeth out while the populists run the establishment out of the GOP.

Here's another example. Right now, Trump's popularity dipped because he tried blaming the alt-left on part of the Charlottesville shitshow. This reaffirmed his populist base, got the RINOs to out themselves, and the best part? The Democrats have tacitly taken ownership of the alt-left. They're going to have to deal with the new media linking them to ANTIFA on a weekly basis and further alienating rural Americans from them in 2018 and 2020. I don't think Trump intended this one, but the new media is already riding it like the gravy train it is.

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>>138661604
>You could see even Texas go blue
No.

t. Texan

>as it's been trending that way for years
It hasn't. If you've been paying attention to the gubernatorial elections, we've been getting redder.

>>138674021
>while the populists run the establishment out of the GOP.
you what? flynn and bannon both got fired mate. the establishment pushed out the populists. it's just trump left and he's surrounded by establishment Reps making sure he doesn't misbehave too much.

>>138674263
Yes, this is a short term problem. It will undoubtedly paralyze Trump and him trusting McMaster could be what ends him. In the long term though, the establishment types have a serious PR problem and if they can't cool their voting base, they'll lose it.

The whole thing's a power keg right now; the most fun in decades.

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>>138661620
Well, there is The Third Option...

the problem the GOP faces is the tide of demographics.

what do you do when gerrymandering doesn't do the trick?