China gets it

>>138633051
can't wait for China to conquer the world

lmao

>>138633051
oh no they gave actual useful advice

>>138633051
Ah china, while I don't agree with you on the economic axis I have to say your somewhat based.

>>138633051
reality is raycis

>>138633051
based China. China is full speed ahead on getting eugenics up to mass scale while the West is still trying to figure out what pronouns to use.

>>138633051

>england seeks apology for the truth

Pottery

>>138633051
Sounds like pretty sound advice for anywhere in the world actually

>>138633051
Is a good advice.

Everyday I regret not staying in China. Coming back to the US was a mistake.

>>138633650
Wtf were you thinking?

>>138633051
A country willing to tell it like it is. How refreshing.

>>138633051

Around the Brit, watch your shit

Well I just want to con-

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>racism is reality meme

...or could it be that the racist ideas perpetuated by the idiots who wrote that guide is the reason for all this unnecessary race tension? Woah...

think of all the rich cultural experiences they'll miss out on by following that horrible, racist guide.

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CHINA NUMBA 1

but it's fucking right

you don't want to go into these areas

Based chinks.

>>138633051
What so FACTS are racist now are they ??? what a fucking stupid time to be alive, I've never known such an idiotic era as current year, it's all dog shit.

>>138633872
Ebin

>>138633051
well it's the truth

>>138633051
Imagine if the whole world told the truth like this.

>>138633956
Like rape?

>>138633918
No

>>138633841
They care about their people.

>>138633051
lmao reminds me of Microsofts "avoid ghetto" feature.

>>138633841
This is from a Chinese company. The communist Chinese government censors anything potentially harmful to the government, which is not 'telling it like it is'.

It's a shame the Chinese will never accept Laowai.

If they take over it'll be hysterical seeing them execute the Liberals en masse

>>138633051
like they give a shit about some whining baizuo

>>138633051

Your personal safety is unimportant compared to IMPORTANT issues like diversity.

>"China hate thread, soulless uncreative chinks, chin chao choo choo, dicklets"
>"W-wait, they are Nazis too? Hell yeah, based China"

>>138633918
No

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>>138634208
I believe you mean "cultural enrichment", my boy.

>>138633918
No, they wrote that guide because they're not delusional twats who deny reality because it conflicts with their ideology

>>138633918

FBI crime stats kinda back this stuff up, so no

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A country full of non-whites is not supposed to be safe. China gets it.

>>138633918
I've lived here for years and white only areas can be dangerous in London.

It's true and the should avoid those areas. Fuck Pakis and fuck their fee fees.

>>138633051
how do we protect chinese women from british men /pol/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j9ixjEWET8

>China tells the truth
>REEEEEEEEE RACISM

>>138633051

its not racist - they're just referring to spaces, not people

>>138634465
>implying /pol/ is one person

>>138634465
>/pol/ is one person

>>138634948
>White only
<London

TELL ME WHERE!!!!!!

>>138633051
Condemned by whom? Some western retards? Chinese honestly couldn't give less shit about their opinion, it's just funny how they think that everyone in the world shares their conception of "racism","xenophoby", "misogyny" and other bullshit. Chinese have heir own fucking civilization and their own values, westtards should just shut up honestly.

>>138633051
wtf i love china now

>>138634666
t r i p s confirm the fact

If I hated a race, I might campaign to flood all of their countries with millions of people that are not their race, and tell everyone to "mix in", until no people of that kind were left. If anyone objected, I would scream the R-word! at them and get them fired from their jobs.

If I hated a certain race, I might do that, but I am not doing that. Anti-whites are doing it to White people in all & only White countries.

Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.

>>138633051
nobody like noisy violent trashy groups of niggers. why doesn't don lemon film all his episodes with groups of niggers in the background talking over him and trashing his studio? everyone knows niggers ruin everything and are angered by things like peace, law, order, cleanliness, quietness.

>>138633918
He's got a point - this only perpetuates racism. Even if it's partly true, it does nothing to bring our communities closer together, and only pushes them further apart.

>>138633051
WHY DO YOU KEEP POSTING OLD AS FUCK SHIT STOP

>>138634948
Of course white only areas are dangerous. They don't want your brown ass there Ahmed.

>>138635285
The places you can't afford, racist pleb.

>>138635548
this. let's nuke africa.

>>138633918(you)(you)(you)

>>138635607
What concern should a chinese travel magazine have for the communal bonds of londons no-go zones?

>>138633051
chyna y u no like our diversity? its ow stwength u fokin retawds! :(((

fpbp

>>138633051
you don't need to be genius for this, which tells a lot about westerners

>>138633051
Hahahahhaha

>>138635607
>it does nothing to bring our communities closer together
and it's not supposed to
it's supposed to protect tourists from being robbed, murdered or raped

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>>138634948
Yeah, so I've heard.

>>138635645
kek

>>138635882
what does fpbp mean? Do you speak English nigger?

>>138636281
>being this new
disgusting

>>138636464
how do you make the text green like that?

China is hilarious. Remember when they forced Muslims in China to sell alcohol in their establishments?

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>>138636281
Fucking lurk more you absolute faggot.

>>138636523
wow, how do you post?

@138636523
how do i do the blue linky thing

>>138635607
Who said I want to be closer to shitskins and niggers?

>>138635775
>>138636102
When PoC read shit like this, it only makes them dislike the people who wrote it more. Prejudice is a two way street to hatred, two wrongs don't make a right etc. Stuff like this could actually make those slighted (Indians, Pakistanis, black people) more likely to attack Chinese tourists, thus perpetuating this ugly cycle.

>>138633051
>Don't take safety precautions, goy.

>>138633051
Racist is a wierd way to spell realistic

>>138633164
Japan would be infinitely better

China treats its people like ants and they have been brainwashed fully into submission

>>138636464
>>138636614

Lol, I was here when prajeet talked about designated shitting streets you faggots. I was here when Greeks weren't white. I don't know all your nigger talk though. Can someone who is not a complete autist tell me what fpbp means?

>>138634338
So just like the UN and Israel, then?

>>138636645
you do it by lurking more

>>138636695
Go to China and tell them that. Enjoy being detained and deported.

>>138636645
shove some niggers up ur anus

>>138633051
so thats what the world looks like when its not under the tyrany of political correctness

>>138636778
Japan is too cucked hardware wise.
China has the manpower and nukes. would love to upload my blue eyes into their database so at least one part of me lives on in the uberchink reich

>>138633918
So you're saying the reason shitskins are violent rapists is because we called them violent rapists and not because of all the violence and rape?

>>138636929
>Implying America won't fight China
That's pretty much the guarantee now that Russia and US are calming down

>>138633918

> It's racist to protect your countrymen

No, China has it right. Just like any liberal would agree that the NAACP issuing a travel warning for blacks to not go to St.Louis was correct.

FFS if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, right?

>>138636659
They could just try to prove them wrong instead.

But they can't. They're animals, I guess.

>>138636659
well I'm a "PoC" and I don't give a shit
if it's true, it's true, they're not talking about me personally

do you really think someone stating facts to warn and protect tourists is gonna make me attack people?

jesus christ you're dumb

>>138633051
For once China wasn't a faggot.

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>>138637374
They are still faggots.

>>138634948
>white only areas can be dangerous in London.
I agree. Falling into a parallel dimensions is quite dangerous and could tear your physical existence apart, so I would recommend it.

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>>138633051
The Chinks should have colonized Africa instead of Europeans. They might actually control the population instead of being cucks and allowing it to blow up to 4 billion.

>>138637465
how is patriotism faggotry?
don't snitches get stitches?

>>138636659
>You should just love everyone. Because if you don't be nice to everyone they will kill you.

Perhaps these people in question are unstable individuals that I would prefer to avoid when provided that option.

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>>138633051
how is telling the truth racist?

wait lemme guess, a jew wrote this article.

>>138633918
GB2Reddit

Sorry mate, but avoiding areas that are predominantly black or asain is just solid advice. Chinese people are often oblivious to what western countrues are acrually like, and think all westerners are white and friendly.

But hey if you want to walk around the black estates with a pocket full of money and an expensive camera, be my guest.

They're absolutely right. Maybe the MPs want them to clarify they mean fuzzies and pakis.

>>138635190
>protect chinese women from british men /pol/?
That's like trying to protect beats from honey.
Asian chicks fucking love getting bleached.

t. Brit

Wise Chinamen are wise.

>>138637620
I unironically blame the Catholics and Mormons for the African population explosion.

Chinese can't be racist because racism is power plus privilege and China isn't the global dominant superpower, ergo, they have no power.

>>138637624
>how is patriotism faggotry?
Patriotism to Communism is faggotry.

>>138637718
>ey yo whitey leav muh dick muh area or i'll cap yo azz
>But I can't leave. That would be racist.
>*gets shanked by a Queen approved plastic spoon*

>>138633164

That would be shit, you utter moron. Chinese are not even human, just mindless, souless, empty drones.

It's always nice to see when someone from a more traditional place just casually explains stuff like this and then a few prudent Westerners get their panties in a bunch.

>>138637828
it might happen to all of us soon at this rate so might as well get comfortable.

i honestly get the chills thinking about the future I predict after spending time here.

>>138636659
Listen you impudent leaf, your bait has worked. If "minorities" need special treatment after all this country has done for them or else they'll start to wantonly break the law, their presence is not required. Chinese tourists are right to expect that whilst in London their persons and property will be inviolate and protected by the law of the land, and if anyone has any suspicion that this will not be the case, they should be warned in advance.

>>138636659
You're saying the guide is accurate but might make the problem worse if the niggers see it who can't help themselves when they see someone no thinking highly of them? So, the person who showed that guide to twatter and the ambassador who made it a news story and made the niggers even more likely to see it are where you place the blame?

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>>138636659
>The Chinese say it's dangerous to come into our neighbourhood?
>Well we'll show them! Lets go rob them and rape their women!
Nigger thought process everybody.

>>138635607
A fucking leaf

>>138633051
Condemned for telling the truth, how very original.

>>138638128
>Chinese are not even human, just mindless, souless, empty drones.

they come off that way to us because we're ignorant. they're a thousands years old civilization that couldn't give a flying fuck what the cucked west thinks

>>138639446
This post makes me sad because it's probably true.

>>138634465
>/pol/ is one person

>>138636929
>>138633164

China will never reach the level of the West. It's society still more similar to ancient city states like Egypt than NATO societies like those in Europe. 80% of their population is just disposable labor.

>>138633051
>State facts with thousands of examples backing said facts up
>Get called a racist
Keep doing what you do China, do not bend the knee to these impotent fucks.

>>138639446
You mean a thousand years old cucked civilisation, getting conquered and essentially enslaved by pretty much everyone around them

The Manchu forced their former empress to work in a brothel and spend a good few hundred years killing every chinaman with creativity or free will
And that's just one of them

They're trying to practice eugenics now because they know what it can do- They've been subjected to it for generations

>>138635607
fucking die you leaf piece of shit maplesyrup lactating mothergfucker

>>138634096

Where have you been for the last decade mate? This has been the truth for ages

>>138639648
i'm sure we will be able to compete with them when they engineer their kids to ahve an average IQ of 120.

>>138639852
>The Manchu

and where are they now? assimilated into china. do you even civilization?

>>138636659

i get angry too sometimes, but i don't assault POC for walking through my white neighborhood.

>>138639885
>fucking die you leaf piece of shit maplesyrup lactating mothergfucker
I'm only three beers into the evening, but this made me lose my shit hard. Cheers burgerbro!

>>138633164
>>138633164
FPBP

>>138633918
Stop hiding your flag, leaf.

>>138633915
Poor bastard.

>>138640191
Just because they assimilate a tiny minority that does better than the rest doesn't suddenly mean the whole of China is that good

The rest of China still remains effected by the consistent targeted killing of any chinese who could pose any sort of danger to the ruling class

>>138640540
>being this ignorant of the chinese zeitgeist

have fun being run over by shitskins while the chinese keep on keeping on

>>138636813
???

>>138633164
lol that's impossible

>>138634465
>/pol is one person

>>138633051
lolololololol

>>138633051
>tfw chinks don't even exist on the same plane of cuckoldry as the west
>tfw based chinks don't give a fuck

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>>138633051
epic

>>138633164
*falls into escalator gears*

>>138633051
everyone gets it, there's no one that doesn't get it. in polite society we say a neighborhood "doesn't have good schools" to indicate you shouldn't go there at night. You can't name the (obvious) ethnic component, you gotta use euphemisms.

"I'm going to go pick up some crack from this enriched, vibrant, diverse area with bad schools. My drug dealer is an urban individual." And so on.

>>138633051
Awesome, tell the goddamn truth

>>138633051
When something is false, you can laugh at it. When it's true, you get mad.

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>>138633872

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>>138633918

facts are raciisss

>>138636659

Trust a fucking leaf to be such a cucked appeaser.

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>>138633051
>I am showing them the bloody precautions, bloody try to make a show of me. I am fixing the bloody bastard chinks and cuttin off the tickle-tackles. Bloody frog and the dog eatings the savage.

>>138633051
Someone show this to Styxhexxenhammer666. I'm tired of his condescending China bashing.

>>138633164
*eats fake noodles*

>>138633051
China is the future of right-wing society.

>>138643493
Just ignore the faggot oh my God.
>Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you know I don't believe anything of any weight. That's about all. Peace.

>>138633650
I feel the same way but replace china with japan and the US with ausfailia.

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>>138633051
>truth is racism
Problem with London is that they stopped mentioning race of criminals in their statistics site, so i would be really careful to trust them, they are obviously protecting their Indians, Pakistanis and black people.

>>138636778
yeah we already fucked that up.

>>138634666
Checked
This Gwailou gets it

>>138635607
>partly
I think you confused partly with completely

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>>138633164
I give it 10 more years

consider this aswell:
America's top universities are being filled with niggers and spics to promote diversity and there is an entire social justice athmosphere surrounding them, the most popular classes are shit like sociology, history of African Americans, gender studies,...

Meanwhile China's universities are 75% male and the average IQ of the students is higher than the average IQ at any of the American ivy league schools. The most popular classes (well popular isn't really the word since the Chinese students can't just choose whatever the fuck they want) are maths, physics, engineering and economics...

China will soon become the economic and intellectual centre of the world. The only thing still lacking is a state of the art military to confirm their dominance.

They also favour strong Eurasian relationships (between Europe, Russia and China) which could put the USA completely isolated and alone if Europe ever decides that China is a better partner than the US.

The jews ofc will not allow China to reshape the balance of power like this. Interesting times ahead...

>>138643792
fucking this

>>138636659
>PoC
Pickers of Cotton

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>>138639885
>>138643252

>cuck
>leaf

wow i am now #btfo :^)

Seriously, these are the best arguments you could come up with?

this is why literally no one in the real world takes any of you seriously and your rallies are always outnumbered 20 or 100 to 1.

>>138633051

WTF I love china now

>>138636792
It's not that hard to figure out faggot.

>>138644138
>China
>Chinese migrants
pick one
Tourists aren't migrants.

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>>138633918
*takes a sip of crime statistics in the modern age*
woah....

>>138636792
Faggots probably bump penis

>>138636659
I hate you Torontofags so much

>>138633918
>1 post by this ID

>>138644037
they helped!if their super weapon ANIME did not back fire so bad they would have had a chance.Sailor moon is the reason Shitzoo Abe is in power cucking it up not givin a fuck livin life in the buttplug lane

>>138635190

Quintessentially british

>>138644908
>economic growth
>birth rate growth
>telling rapefugees to fuck off
Yeah, super cuck,

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Think of the areas people advise you to avoid in the America. It's even in the movies.

"They say don't come with anything
less than a platoon."
Training Day (2001)

>>138633164
*Christian Chinese
It's like the perfect mix of the Yang of Chinese Nationalist Drone and the Yin of person who cares a lot about humanity thereby making a hardworking yet caring person.

Christianity gets cucked if the people are too morally and ethically weak but with China they are the opposite.

>>138633164
When the kikes start migrating over there that's when you'll know.

>>138634173

It used to, now everyone pretends muslims and blacks are civilized people. Fucking ridiculous.

>>138644138
They'll just subvert China from the inside and use it to do their bidding. Or you know, since chinks are already Asian Jews you can have them do it themselves.

Europe might choose China because becoming a multicultural hellhole and being a Chinese vassal seems to be preferrable than having sovereign nations to the Europeans. But I wonder if Europe becomes significantly Muslim if the Chinese will tolerate Europe.

>>138636659
A fucking leaf

>>138636659
>don't offend us or we'll attack you!

>>138633051
that is 100% true though

>>138635607
Fuck you leaf

>>138645101
Shills hate on based Abe for shit reasons

Japan is doing fine until they open their borders. Then it's time to start WW3

>>138633164
China will grow larger!

>>138647201
How are Jews going to subvert the Chinese. They are completely resistant to Jewish guilt tactics, they don't give a fuck. East Asians are fundamentally different from whites.

>>138638128
So? I'd rather people like that rule the world than Westerners who are all about emotion and virtue signalling. Besides, the Chinese worship White people.

>>138633051
Wtf I love china now

>>138647607
Guilt is not the sole reason for Jewish supremacy, and most Chinese do not have any opinions negative or positive about Jews, which means they do not know their enemy, which means they are vulnerable.

>>138634465
>paul is one person

>>138647201
>>138647607
The same way they did it to Europe

Marry into them until they look similar enough to pass as Chinese then work at it from the inside. Marry the leadership and pressure them to allow it

>>138645703
Chinese dont let christianity spread much

State communism comes first

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>>138645841
They currently are

Zuck tried to let Xi name his half chinese child

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>>138634948
>White only areas of London

>>138633051
Muslim criminals explicitly target Chinese people.

This is known fact.

>>138636929
If you take them off their leash they will be incredibly powerful

>>138647787
If you'd ever worked with chinese you'd be aware they're asian jews

>>138636659
If someone wrote a guild saying Canada is dangerous and Canadians will attack you, would you attack them? No, because you're (probably) not a savage. If these "people" are such savages that they'd attack due to a slight from a tour guide they shouldn't be in our countries or at the very least should be partitioned off from the general population for safety.

>>138647969
Isn't the City pretty much 100% white?

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>>138633051
China got the best food in the world.

>>138647991
They will have nuke immune gundams before WW3 finishes

>>138647999
This too

Chinks are the slanty jews at the top and slanty niggers at the bottom

>>138648055
London?

It's about 50% non white.

>>138633918

No

>>138633164
Daily reminder China was number 1 for MOST of the history. There was just a small period of time between early 19th century to around 2020 when they lost the lead... it's very short period. Now they will regain their nr.1 position they had all history, and it will be for the good. Whites were given a chance to lead the world and they fucked up and made a bloody mess out of it. I don't trust white people to lead anymore. I say give the role to China.

>>138648205
57.5% White British
2.4% White Irish
0% White Gypsy or Irish Traveller
18.6% Other White
0.5% White & Black Caribbean
0.5% White & Black African
1.5% White & Asian
1.4% Other Mixed
2.9% Indian
0.2% Pakistani
3.1% Bangladeshi
3.6% Chinese
2.9% Other Asian
1.3% Black African
0.6% Black Caribbean
0.7% Other Black
0.9% Arab
1.2% Other

>>138634948
>white areas
>London
???

>>138647999
Checked

>>138647856
China hasnt been communist in any practical sense for like 15 years mate.

Why do you think their ecomony has been booming?

>>138648455
English people have different standard of whiteness than us. To you & me Irish are white, but to the English, not necessarily.

>>138648409
Paper tiger

>>138633051
not surprising, Chinese are the biggest kikes on the planet.

fucking terrifying considering how many of them there are, good thing they can't stop shitting on each other.

there might come a day when a billion jews are interested in jewing America from abroad, that day will not be a good day.

>>138648581
riiiiight......

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>>138634948
>white only areas
You shitskins are literally everywhere like a plague

>>138633051
Is there anything wrong with what is said here? I'm a 27 year old male and I wouldn't go to certain areas in London.

>>138633051
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>138633051
Chinks are redpilled as fuck.

>>138634465
>Ron paul is a person

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>>138636792
>>138636281
>being a newfag and lying about it to try to "fit in"

>>138637316
based shitskin

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>>138636659
>Don't tell the truth about shitskins or they'll attack you even more than they do already

>>138648573
Because communism works at the cost of the lives of the people you idiot

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>>138644401
Funny that you ignore posts like this you fucking intellectually dishonest cuck.

>>138638712
>>138638954
>>138647239
>>138648018
>>138649356

>>138634465
>Pope is one person

>>138633051
What is racist about the truth?

>>138633051
China's not wrong.
Truth and reality is not racist. Facts don't care about feelings.

>>138648768
It's implying that shitskin minorities are more dangerous than real Englishmen which is RACIST!

>>138649863
sadly, facts don't make the rules, facts don't decide who's guilty or innocent, facts don't govern the world

in the grand battle of feels vs. reals, reals are losing hard right now

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>>138633051

at least the chinks wont let the nigs live after we are gone

>>138634465
>even a race of insect people can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch
>oh, and that muslims and niggers are dangerous

>>138648409
This is a fucking meme.

10,000 BC - 550 BC Mesopotamian Civs > China
550 BC - 330 BC Persia > China
330 BC - 550 AD Greco-Roman Civ > China
550 AD - 620 AD CHINA #1
620 AD - 1220 Islam > China
1220 - 1368 Mongols > China
1368 - 1600 CHINA #1
1600 - Current Year West > China

>>138649950
>facts don't decide who's guilty or innocent, facts don't govern the world
They should. I wish we could make robots who filter out facts and decide based on that.

>>138633051
Reality bites back.

>>138633164
>europoors actually believe this

>>138633164
imagine being this stupid

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>>138648455
When are those stats from?
Wikipedia 2001
60% British white
71% white total
Wikipedia 2011
45% British white
60% white total

Wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 50% now.

>>138644138
>more western europeans convinced
lol revealed your desperation there

>>138644138
>and the average IQ of the students is higher than the average IQ at any of the American ivy league schools
Imagine being this stupid. The fact that so many of them produce so little is proof against this.

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>>138650121
I think the renaissance and early colonial period gives china a run for its money

>>138644138
you're probably right about the university stuff

and we'll only have ourselves to blame

>>138650121
>1368 - 1600 CHINA #1
ehhh, not relaly

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>>138633051
>outrage
>apologize immediately
>Take it back!
So this Britcuck parliament member wants Chinese women to get raped that badly?

>>138633918

>you wrote bad things about me!
>I'm gonna commit crimes now

And you say conservatives hate minorities

>>138633164
>eats plastic rice
>eats cardboard "beef"
Oh boy, can't wait.

>>138633051

wtf I love China now!

>>138636929
Hi there shareblue. Reminder that the chinks are the niggers of asia.

>>138635607
While I agree with this statement I also can't help but say we wouldnt need to say mean things if people were held accountable for their actions

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>>138633051
FUCKING ADMIT IT
IT'S A HELLHOLE BECAUSE OF YOUR OPEN DOOR IMMIGRATION POLICIES
SAY IT. SAY 'ENOCH WAS RIGHT'.
FUCKING SAY IT YOU CUNTS YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE.
FUCK THIS PLACE CIVIL WAR NOW

>>138643875
Just don't go there.
London is probably one of the worst places in europe, ironically the delusional fucks are trying to make the rest of the country bring in more of these animals and ruin everywhere else, I unironically would nuke the place if I had the option.

>>138634666
Based Satan gets it

>>138648640
what the fuck are you talking about, we've been getting ripped off by them for decades

>>138647824
So that's what that faggot zuckerberg is doing

>>138652817
China is the chad thundercock of asia you retarded burger

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>>138641494
She probably just responded to the wrong post.

>>138633489
When the external threat to the western world gets large enough, things will change very rapidly.

>>138633918
Pfrhhhffft... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

>>138633998
why did I have to scroll down so far for this

CHINA NUMBA 1
>>138633051

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>>138633051
i hate china, but i'm glad they're colonizing africa

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>>138647599
fuck i loved that game
C&C generals was my jam

>>138633051
How is it racist? They called the nigger "people"

>>138633918
Chinese travel agencies are responsible for the crimes of brown people in London?

Whoa. Never thought of it that way. Thanks, Anon!

>>138633051

I hope they didn't apologise and stood by the warning.

>>138636778
SEA in ww2 says otherwise

>>138648409
propaganda, china has never been more than a regional power

Reminder the wod is irreversibly mumticentric and that unhinged capitalism is the reason all of our labor was exported to China and that they are going to surpass us

>>138650121
what's your criteria for china being #1? i'd really love to know.

>>138633051
I fucking hate western leaders. Why do they care more about what the MINORITIES say when our countries are democratic?