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Was Nazism left-wing?

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There is a huge debate in our internet pages, youtubbers, etc. about whether Nazism was left-wing or not.
Personally I believe Nazism, Fascism and Communism are different branches of the same Revolution Tree, being Classical Liberalism and Protestantism other important branches. What do you think, /pol/? And to Nazi /pol/lacks here: what exactly do you hate about Commies apart from Jewish content?
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>>138616125
If by leftwing you mean socialist, then no, nazism was definitely not leftwing.
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>>138616125
It was that lovely third option that combined stable traditional values with forward economic thinking. It was the force that was capable of combing the best aspects of the free market, and additionally the stable aspects of socialism coupled with emphasis on respect to authority.

So to be blunt, it was a bit of both, but we have Hjalmar Schacht to thank for the wondrous economy there during the thirties. God bless him, man was a true genius.
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>>138616125
What makes you think they're left wing?
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>>138616529
I can see where it would be. Decrying the easy corruptibility of capitalism, opening social programs, so on, so forth. But as I said just above it was more or less a happy combination of both. Something never really found anywhere else in history.
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>>138616125

It was partially left wing until the night of the long knives when the "second revolutionaries" (Ernst Rohm, Georg Strasser) were killed at the behest of the Army and Business leaders.


Even the Nazi anthem equivocates "Rottfront und Reaktion" (Communists and Reactionaries).
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>>138616724
Welfare state is not socialism.
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>>138616873

*equates
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>>138616125
Fiscally liberal, socially conservative.
It's like the exact opposite of those retards who say they're fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
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>>138616902
Correct, it's a stepping stone. It's more or less pseudo-socialism.
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Economically left of center (but not Marxist, obviously)
Socially right-wing as fuck.
This is not that hard, people.
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Socio-Economically left wing, culturally right wing
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>>138616125

The original, Italian Fascism, was definitely left wing.
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Jesus Christ this Nazism was left wing is so retarded. Might as well go around saying Lenin is Hitler or Dems are the real racists. Cringe af
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Nazism, Fascism, and Communism are all the combination of business and government. The only way to stop the union of government and business is to greatly reduce the size of government.
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At its core, Socialism simply means the workers control the means of production.
In essense, it means individuals are banned, by force, from owning businesses. Hence why it is authoritarian by nature.

In practice, the socialist party would claim to represent the workers, and hence all the means of production now belonged to it.
A common theme among Socialist dictatorships was the conflation between the party, the government and the state. The party became one with the country itself.

The German Nationalist Socialist party did all that to a great extent. It did conflate itself with the German government and state, it essentially became Germany.
It did not seize all the means of production, although many were seized and then handed over to party members.
But even the businesses that were not seized were, to a large degree, forced to work for the party. In most cases industries were rebuilt using promissory notes, on orders of the state.
So yes, to a very large degree, the Nationalist Socialist Party of Germany was (shockingly) Socialist and left-wing.
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>>138616125
nazism doesn't exist, it's called national-socialism, and yes it was left wing.
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>>138617205

So Georg Straser wasn't left wing?
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>>138616125
nope, leftism is egalitarian, anti-hierarchal crap
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>>138616125
>Was Nazism left-wing?
No one serious asks this question.
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>>138617228
only way to stop the corporation jew is to have a strong government that can stop them from betraying the country or spread degeneracy
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>>138617095
It's hard to understand for the cuckservatives (read: liberals) who hate racism, ''sexism'' and some other made up -isms. They want to distance themselves from muh racism and other ''bad'' ideas so they can live in a liberal shithole in peace and whine about taxes being 1% too high.
These people are liberals who think they're blowing minds by suggesting that taxes could be lower.
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>>138616724
>Decrying the easy corruptibility of capitalism
I don't see how saying something (capitalism) isn't perfect means they're in favor of doing away with it. Pic related.

>social programs
Is not socialism. The welfare state was created in Germany before Hitler was born and it was done so in order to win working class support away from the socialists at the time.

>it was more or less a happy combination of both
>both
No, again, welfare is not socialism.
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>>138616125
kind of, but not commie tier left wing. comparable to social democracy
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>>138617205
Except they were definitely economically left wing? Left and right means something on a political spectrum you know, you can't just assume stupid bullshit because nazis and communists fought eachother. Think about what your saying or get the fuck off pol faggot.
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>>138617085
Well, it's actually more a compromise and since we're talking about germany here, it's quite convenient to explain. The first proper "welfare state" in history was actually Germany and the history of the policy doesn't go back very far. Bismarck was engaged in a political battle with the catholic church (representing the centrist parties) while he was the face of protestant conservatives - which is now known as the "kulturkampf". Long story short he tried to bring them to heel but failed. However at the same time, genuine socialist movements were arising all over europe with many in germany. Faced with a common enemy, Bismarck and the catholics struck a deal partnership and developed the first welfare state (where workers would get limited rights to medical treatment, pension, days off, etc). Some argue they acted out of christian charity or that it was inevitable as industrialisation progressed and ensuring the wellbeing of the labor force was a pragmatic necessity; while others would say it was a cynical attempt at quelling the fire of the socialist movements. And that model quickly spread across other western european liberal democracies since they too were facing similar socialist uprisings.

Whichever way you want to look at it, it's pretty apparent the welfare state is not socialist in the slightest. It doesn't seek to seize private means of productions and redistributed to the oppressed labor class. It's a massive compromise to maintain the liberal status quo. And by liberal, I mean old economic classic liberalism of adam smith and ricardo, not mordernday virtue-signalling libtards.

So yeah, in a way you could view it as "pseudo-socialism" since it seeks to address some concerns about the workers qualify of life and some minor wealth redistribution through taxation and subsidization of the population. But personally I think that's a stretch.
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>>138617804
LIES!! That never works! Government can always be bought!
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>>138616529
Well, the fact that Hitler and Stalin were bros until 1941, that both were totalitarian regimes, that Nacional Socialism can be considered a species of Socialism gender, that rivality between Nazists and Communists in Germany (and after between Germany and USSR) can be considered a feud between brothers, unlike Germany and UK, that Catholic Church were against both - and both were against Catholic Church... There are many reasons to think they were equals in essence.
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>>138618879
Platonic Republic >>>> Democuckracy and Fascism
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>>138618879
so you hand over all the power to the buyers instead
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>>138616125
Leave it to a BR to try and active them almonds.

>comparing communism to fascism
>holy fuck m8
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>>138616125
Does it matter? They hated the jew. They were an important step in the right dorection.
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>>138619160
Power comes from the ability to control and force others to comply. Corporations don't have power if they can't wield the enforcement tools of government.
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It's the dumbest fucking argument ever, of course Nazis were fucking right wing:

>state-enforced socioeconomic hierarchies
>pseudo-socialist state that was effectively capitalism: welfare lite edition
>state-sponsored religion
>Racism, holocaust, gulags, etc.
>barred freedom of speech and expression; literally burned books and art

>inb4: Well the USSR did the same thing and they were lef-
The USSR wasn't fucking left wing either after Lenin. None of this is hard to understand
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>>138619818
>The USSR wasn't fucking left wing either after Lenin
It wasn't even by the end of his lifetime. Lenin already put in motion state capitalism in 1921 through the NEP to fix the damage left behind by the civil war and war communism.
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>>138617899

One little fact that people don't know is that Marx picked ideas from Ricardians, french utopists and Engels.
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>>138616351
>National socialism is not socialistic
O-Okay. It was literally socialism with no shitskins and kikes.
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>>138619701
there is other ways to force others to comply then by government
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>>138619036
>the fact that Hitler and Stalin were bros until 1941
Define "bros"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html

>both were totalitarian regimes
This as tired an argument as the antifa are the fascists because they use violence. Whether to engage in authoritarianism or not, is not exclusive to the left or the right.

>Nacional Socialism can be considered a species of Socialism
Hitler repeatedly said his "socialism" was not the same or even a variant of iit from other known leftist thinkers like Marx. It's a name, that's it, a name he co-opted to try to appeal to the working class, fascists love doing this, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2XyoxK-uE#t=02m10s. The people who first began to identity politically as libertarian were socialists (pic related), does that mean pro free marker burger libertarians are socialists? No.
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>>138620447
>the democratic people's republic of korea must be democratic because it's in the name
kys
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>>138616125
Fucking socialists moron
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>>138616125
It was formed by an artfag who hung around in coffee shops, made Disney fan-art, blamed everything on people with "privilege", listened to classical music, was a vegan and animal rights activist, bragged about being a non-smoker, was an environmentalist, and tried to root out 'problematic' things in media (mostly fantasy/sci-fi), wanted welfare, and glorified single mothers.

Face it. If Hitler had been born in the 90s, he'd have his own Sonic OC, watch Doctor Who, be a trans-something-kin, and would virtue signal about how "woke" he was on Tumblr and Twitter.
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>>138620239
That's why I understand Marxism was the logical consequence of Classical Liberalism
Classical Liberalism:
>We need to dethrone Ancien Régime!
Marxism
>Why would we stop here?
>>138620654
>What was Molotov-Ribbentrop Agreement
Also, there are studies which claims that actually Stalin made Hitler, and Nazism was a ice-breaker for Communism http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p222_smith.html
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>>138616125
>Personally I
Learn your grammar dumbass.
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>>138621237
>What was Molotov-Ribbentrop Agreement
Something that Russia was trying to initially avoid?

I posted the link for a reason

>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html

>The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, named after the foreign secretaries of the two countries, came on August 23 - just a week before Nazi Germany attacked Poland, thereby sparking the outbreak of the war. But it would never have happened if Stalin's offer of a western alliance had been accepted
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>>138620595
Kewl good luck with that
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>>138621056
You also left out a was a decorated war veteran and genuinely fell for the "stab in the back" meme. There's not a lot of historical evidence that he became a virulent antisemite until he came back from the war. And back then, jew-bashing was literally the norm.
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>>138616125
"left" and "right" are not well defined. You can only say something is left or right when comparing with something else. For exemple, the democratic party in the US is left because they are on the left when compared to the republican party, even though they are not socialists (with a few exceptions).
I do belive it is possible to argue nazism is to the left of libertarianism using the very same arguments you would use to say (real)communism is to the left of libertarianism. They obviously drink from the same waters, big gov, corporativism, etc.
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>>138616125
yes but no. They were more on the left economically because they did a shit ton of public investments Keynesian style and they disbanded private welfare institutions, but they did that to support traditional social policies which definitely weren't leftist, although they were still collectivist.
People usually say they're third position because fascism and nazism appeared when people weren't satisfied with liberalism anymore but the only other choice at the time was communism, so they stepped in the middle
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>>138616125
Socially and economically it was fundamentally left wing.
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>>138622128
they are very well defined, in europe left is revolutionary, right is reactionary, centrism is conservatism, in the U.S. left wing means big federal government, right wing means small gov, states and individual rights prevailing over federal legislation.

The fact is that all the post Russian Revolution ideologies, Bolshevism, National Socialism, and Fascism, were all born from revolutionary ideals, the breakaway point was the marxist vs. corporatist conflict.
Many of the people who collaborated with the nazis in France were from the socialist party and various syndicalist-revolutionary non marxist movements, Mussolini himself was from the syndicalist-revolutionary tendency.
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>>138621993
>There's not a lot of historical evidence that he became a virulent antisemite until he came back from the war.
I think the Gemlich Letter is the earliest recorded instance of antisemitism from Hitler.
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>>138616125
No. National socialism is based purely on teachings of Jesus Christ uniting all of Christendom under one baner and one nation. It's an anathema to leftism.
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>>138623377
then explain neo-paganism and anti-christian islamophilia being so present in nazi academics
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>>138616125
They nationalized private property. That's commie as fuck.
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>>138623495
It's a lie jews told about national socialism. All national socialists were devout Christians by the very design.
There are many lies the people tell about them. They call them pagans, leftists and racists.
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>>138623760
are you a spic ?
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>>138623377
Then why
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Stein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Girotti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Lichtenberg
?
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>>138623964
No. I'm a Christian.
Are you a sodomite?
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>>138623760
>All national socialists were devout Christians
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>>138624220
Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
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>>138623616
Everyone and their gran nationalised shit in the 1930s.

They also created slave labour for German corporations and buddied up to German industrialists.
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>Left vs. Right
It transcends the Helegian Dialect, get out of the goyim box you're stuck thinking in my man.
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>>138623760
Jesus was a commie too
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>>138623616
They nationalised some industries and privatised others. Not really different than any other mixed-economy countries. The only difference is that the pattern the nazis followed indicated a gradual shift towards a war economy.
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>>138616351
Except massive private companies profited enormously?
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>>138624529
No, He wasn't. Communism is by princible Anti-Christian.
>>138624326
Lies.
National socialism IS Christianity. You cannot be one without the other.
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>>138616724
Nah they just took a little superficial leftist rhetoric because Communism was so big in the 30s, then killed anyone who believed that in the night of the long knives.

Most big social programs had already begun under the Weimar government and were just given new PR.
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If you call it "Nazism" and not "National Socialism", you're already cucked with fake history.

Don't even try to discuss it. You can't. It's not that you don't know anything, it's that everything you know is wrong.
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>>138616125
>Personally I believe
See, this is why people on the internet are usually wrong. It doesn't fucking matter what you believe, truth is objective. Nazis is LEFTIST, end of story. National Socialism has more in common with Socialism (!?) and Antifa than conservative American government. Take the dicks out of your mouths and educate yourself, leftist faggots
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>>138623616
They also began what we began calling privatization. They were CENTER, third position.
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nazism and the REAL fascism are outside of the righ and left spectre. This is why is called the third way.
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>>138624622
I agree?
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>>138623495
>anti-christian islamophilia
If you want the answer just look around you today. Christians (((turning the other cheek))) as their people are slowly conquered. Christianity is weakness.
Hitler wanted the Middle East to become more stable so he introduced National Socialism to Arabs/Muslims. That's as far as Hitler's insights into Islam went. It was entirely politics.
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>>138625245
if anything the current ideology of the E.U. elite is closer to third reich neue rechte academia than to any form of christian theology
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>>138625245
Hitler wanted to Christianise arabs like he wanted to Christianise rest of the World. This is the final goal of national socialists: all people under Christ.
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>is the system that forcefully seized private property and distributed it among its cronies left-wing

Their only left-winged notion is anti-semitism.
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>>138616125
if it quacks like socialism and walks like socialism it is socialism
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>>138625424
>faggot LARPer with faggot flag
Could you please gas yourself asap?
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>>138625112
>state controlled economy
leftist. not """""3rd way"""" you paela fucking monkey
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>>138624691
THIS. You are the first person I've ever seen say that. For us who actually read the Word this is obvious. Thank you, I'll sign off now before the next post.
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>>138625572
No, it's YOU who needs to gas yourself. Christian society doesn't need you.
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>>138624691
>Communism is by princible Anti-Christian.
I'm not one but christian commies exist, one wrote the pledge of allegiance for Burger land.
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>>138618879
money is not always the highest power. government being bought is just the natural conclusion of capitalism, not the natural conclusion of government
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>>138624378
>Wikipedia invented anti-Nazism Encyclical and martyrdom of blessed and saints by Nazists
>>138625677
>Jesus said some races were above others
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>>138625964
National socialism opposes racism. It's all kike propaganda.
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>>138626106
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>>138626106
you don't even know what racism means and literally use the kike-proofed definition of it
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>>138626106
So what? They wanted to work with Fritz Lang))), regardless of his Jewish ancestry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk22GME79S0
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>>138626106
>National socialism opposes racism
It sure does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_Bastard
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>>138626246
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>>138625604
Fuck off retard, national socialism and fascism were revolutionary movements agaisnt marxism, capitalism and traditionalism (in politics). They are outside the left and right bullshit... Go and put Man, Economy and State inside your ass, faggot.
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>>138626304
Again. Kike propaganda.
German Reich was not an ethno state. It was a multiethnic country based on principles of Chrisian faith. "Race" doesn't matter to a national socialist. Faith does.
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>>138626511
kek
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>>138626352
>I'll use whatever cannon fodder i can get to fight this World War, this totally means i love all the races guis
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>>138620447
>>138616351

it wasn't "socialist" in the normal denomination of socialism. But we could say it was a national type of socialism
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>>138626714
There are no "races" you kike shill. Find me a verse in the Bible talking about "races".
Racism is for inbreed american hicks. National socialist must be free of it.
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>>138626840
>if we change the definition of socialism, then it is socialism
You're still conflating welfare and socialism, anon.
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>>138627029
>implying there is only a single type of socialism
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>>138626840
>we could say it was a national type of socialism
No we couldn't and that was existentially what Stalin was doing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country
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>>138626511
National Socialist Germany wasn't autistic about race like the white power retards are, but they still considered it to be a primary concern. All non-Germanics were relocated from German territory and race mixing women were publicly shamed.
When the Wehrmacht entered the East they moved German tribes (like those in the Ukraine) to the West, especially when the war turned against them.
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>>138627167
>implying socialism isn't about worker ownership of the means of production
There are DIFFERENT strands of socialism on how to achieve that goal, but all ultimately agree that's the objective.
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>>138616125
Socialism is revolution. It is left-wing. Fascism is right-wing, and it's only concerned with conservation.
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>>138627348
Again kike propaganda. National socialism isn't concerned with blood but with spirit. German Reich was for Christians, not for heathens. That's it.
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>>138626851
22 A Gentile[a] woman who lived there came to him, pleading, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David! For my daughter is possessed by a demon that torments her severely.”

23 But Jesus gave her no reply, not even a word. Then his disciples urged him to send her away. “Tell her to go away,” they said. “She is bothering us with all her begging.”

24 Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”

25 But she came and worshiped him, pleading again, “Lord, help me!”

26 Jesus responded, “It isn’t right to take food from the children and throw it to the dogs.”

27 She replied, “That’s true, Lord, but even dogs are allowed to eat the scraps that fall beneath their masters’ table.”

28 “Dear woman,” Jesus said to her, “your faith is great. Your request is granted.” And her daughter was instantly healed.


>tl;dr Jesus treat a gentile as a dog and says The people of Israel is their master

this text makes a clear distinction between jews and the rest of races.
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>>138627167
There are and they all at the least generally agree on forms of worker control, something the nazis, save for a few who were purged, were staunchly against.
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>>138627731
It was a test of faith you sodomite kike shill.
Galatians 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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NatSoc is basically SocDem
So, basically center
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>>138616125
>There is a huge debate in our internet pages, youtubbers, etc. about whether Nazism was left-wing or not.
It's not really either. We pretty much had a nazi president for years in FDR. Social programs aimed at working people, internment camps and property seizure based on race, segregation enforcement, stacking judges, etc. Thankfully the party of FDR died pretty hard with him. We should never go back to those times. Unfortunately any hope of saving the democrats ended when a commie shot JFK, which is why democrats are basically communists now, they won.

You may think I'm being facetious but I'm not. Progressives hearkening back to FDR are basically wishing for the closest thing the US ever had to a nazi in power.
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>>138627676
I think you might be misinformed, friend.
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>>138627925
Kek, poor jew wannabe, your religion is jewish and shills for jews as masters. Paul was a jew too.

Fuck off.
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>>138627676
>National socialism isn't concerned with blood
"Richard Walther Darré addressing a meeting of the farming community in Goslar on 13 December 1937 standing in front of a Reichsadler and Swastika crossed with a sword and wheat sheaf labelled Blood and Soil"
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>>138628263
Shut your kike mouth faggot. You are talking tough behind your screen, if you were in front of me you wouldn't be talking shit.
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This is one of the reasons why left-right is such an awful way of grouping ideologies. It made sense when all monarchy was right-wing and all representative government (without an unelected head of state) was left-wing. Now virtually no one supports monarchism in Europe or North America and people keep trying to apply the left-right scale.

The Third Reich was collectivist. Is that right-wing? The Third Reich had nationalized health insurance and labor unions, both of which were mandatory to participate in. Is that right-wing?

Politics should be described by the issues, not by left-right.
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>>138616125
National SOCIALISM is Left, yes.

All totalitarian governments are on the Left. Fascist, Nazi, Communist, all of them.

The people on the right want to be left the fuck alone.
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>>138628323

this guy was born only a few blocks from where i live

>>138627260
this is what i was thinking about desu
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>>138628405
Very christian!
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>>138627731
why is jesus such a dick?
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>>138628510
>All totalitarian governments are on the Left.
The term "right-wing" originates in France from supporters of a monarchy and "left-wing" from supporters of a republic.

The terms are useless today.
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>>138628323
You are completly misunderstanding it like a faggot redeck you are: "blood" refers to the blood of Christ.
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>>138616125
the only true answer is: It started off strongly authoritarian and rather strongly left wing economically, but it drifted further right as it went along but never became right wing economically, only slightly left wing.
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>>138616125
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>>138628510
so authoritarian = left and libertarian = right? i think you're only looking through the filter of american pop politics.
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>>138628828
Because this religion is not european, is something alien for the spirit of the european people, this is the very reason why it brings only suffering, wars, submission, destruction... Just wach the history of Europe since the introduction of christism until the european man discovered again his true spirit (the renaissance) and brought light to the world AGAIN. Jesus is a lie, never existed.
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>>138629157
>turner diaries and white nationalism
>national socialism
They have nothing in common. White nationalism is a leftist ideology. Also (((William Pierce))) was a godless kike.
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>>138628510
National Socialism is not marxist socialism, which is the forced redistribution of wealth. National Socialism is focused on the well being of the community. Man is a social animal and National Socialism strives to make the best of that.
Yes, that means social programs that uplifts the nation. Extreme individualism is a death sentence for a country (see: America)
>The people on the right want to be left the fuck alone.
Too bad (((other people))) don't give a shit what you want.
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>>138629134
>never became right wing economically
Let's just ignore all that pesky privatization they were up to.
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>>138629274
>national socialism
>socialits!!!

Wew lad.
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>>138628439
You still use words from a language thousands of years in the making. I don't know why these two bother you when the other 25000-50000 words in your vocabulary don't.
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>>138629084
nah, it was directly influenced by the german romanticism movement, which pushed the idea that rural, agrarian german class were superior in character and body to their urban counterparts due to their roots to the land.

It's LITERALLY the "rural and suburban retards vs city people" meme.
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>>138616125
like literally says in their name. they were socialists. the only difference with modern socialism is they wanted it for their people and no one else, and if they considered other ethnicity people is debatable.
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>>138629596
because it doesnt apply the same way anymore
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Also people here talks like socialism is the same as marxists or internationalism when is NOT, socialists ideals are older than marxism and leninism. I. e. Bakunin was a socialist and his ideology had nothing to do with them.
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>>138629850
>which pushed the idea that rural, agrarian german class were superior in character and body to their urban counterparts due to their roots to the land.
This is also a common thing in national syndicalism and fascism.
I remember a n excelent speech by Primo de Rivera about this.
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>>138629888
>>138630088
8 follows me!!

88!
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>>138629850
Fuck off shill.
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>>138616125
Nazi's by definition are NATIONALIST SOCIALISTS. They are a leftist ideology. Communism is far left. Both groups are idiots for different reasons. Nazis think the Commies take it was to far. Commies basically think Nazis are dumb for not following through far enough.

Fascism is a right ideology where the government controls the production and economy. Nazi's and fascists are polar opposites with the Commies sitting alllllll the way at the end of the spectrum looking smug
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>>138629879
so don't use it that way
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>>138630515
good idea, we wont use left and right to describe ideology anymore
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>>138628439
The issues as you put it, are what define left/right. Your healthcare example is perfect, as it is a leftist policy, and Nazism was solidly a leftist ideal
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>>138630643
that's not the idea

the idea is we won't be turbo-autists and instead will recognize that words can have different meanings in different contexts

one context may be a discussion about the times monarchies were losing political ground

another context may be this fucking thread where you're a turboautist that needs to shut your fucking mouth
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>>138619818
R u retarded m8?
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>>138630888
id agree if it were a useful tool to describe the situation as it is today, but its not

good trips btw
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How many people here think North Korea is a democracy because they're called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
Show us just how retarded you really are.
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>>138631180
sheeeit
really makes me think
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It's both
It takes aspects of right wing ideology and mixes it with some left leaning ideology.

It is centist not because it hold some veiws on one side and no opinion on the other,but because it hold radical veiws from both sides at the same time
This may seem hypocriteical,but in the end it was very effective and a revolutionaryprospective.
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>>138631399
>hypocriteical
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>>138616125
I agree OP. all three movements come from the same rotten tree. american free market capitalism , small government conservative constitutionalism with christianity is the way to go imho. maximises individual freedom with the counterbalance of christian ethics
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>>138617228
agree
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>>138627731
Acts
34 Then Peter addressed them, 'I now really understand', he said, 'that God has no favourites,

35 but that anybody of any nationality who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
Nazism is anti-Christian in its quintessence
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>>138616125
>There is a huge debate in our internet pages, youtubbers, etc. about whether Nazism was left-wing or not.
There are huge debates online on whether the earth is flat or not, it doesn't make the argument any less retarded, or the people debating it less of a bunch of fuckwits.
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>>138631577
Caring about typos
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>>138616529
>sees flag
oh shit, you almost got me, nigger

>>138619818
>The USSR wasn't fucking left wing either after Lenin. None of this is hard to understand
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>>138616125
Left wing = big government/collectivism
Right wing = small government/individualism

This is not a hard concept.
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