/pol/ unequivocally BLOWN. THE FUCK. OUT.

I don't think a redneck would know what the holodomor is

>>138601234
>if you argue about the holocaust... you might be a kike

How can liberals not see their own hypocrisy?

what's there to argue about? that more hohols should have died?

If your tweet handle is 'Crash Bandicam' there is a 99% chance you are Juden.

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>s-stop blowing me the fuck out you darn REDNECKS
Hitting a nerve I see?

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>>138601455
>my mfw face when dabbing on the graves of 10 gorillion Ukrainian slavs

>>138601390
As I know it, the question is was it intentional ukranian genocide or just a logistics fuckup and resources shortage (which in post-war USSR was pretty real).

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>>138601234
>if you argue about destruction of farmer class you might belong to farmer class
And that's bad because?

>>138601234
the holodomor was the cheating of the poor working class people who worked hand to mouth by "men of the people" who sold their goods around the world while they starved.

damn right they are rednecks who hate this, the rural workers around the world hate this and you won't like it when when round up your jewish intellectual asses like under stalin.

>>138601698
This isn't a point of point of contention when you remember that Stalin hated slavs more than anything. He starved them to death because he didn't have the resources to open gulags for 10 million+ of them.

>>138601390
Hohols: Stalin wanted to genocide Ukrainians, so he organised holodomo.
Commies: did not happen. If somebody died - they deserved it for being evil kulak
Sane people: communism kills.

>>138601754
> rural retards

>>138601234

someone spam communist propaganda telling people not to cannibalize their children in times of famine that were all the rage back then

>>138601902
>killing your own slaves just because
Stalin was not crazy homicidal maniac, just tyrant

>>138601987
>Soviet logistics were fucked, but Stalin knew every crisis is also an opportunity.

>>138601987
What about Trofim Denisovich Lysenko?

>>138601234
Elaborate
Or you just say that because you don't like the idea pf commies being the cause of bigger genocides than nazis?

A redneck would just say it happened, the commie would be the one arguing tbfh f a m

>>138602327
Goes under 'communism kills' and 'determining scientific truth by political means is not a good idea'.

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>>138601234
Commies kill universally.

My family was not affected by holodomor because we're from west Ukraine, however it did kill many Russians and Belarussians as well.

Commies just lack empathy for human life

it takes two to mango, you inbred hick.

>>138602327
>dude if we plant crops 2 feet underground they'll be inspired by proletarian struggle and grow better
>dude if we plant our crops in clusters instead of individually they'll develop a class consciousness and grow better
what the fuck did he mean by this

>>138603295
>two to mango
Mao pls

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Fuck kikes, fuck soviets and fuck hohols.
All you hear is only about >muh holodomor and >muh ukrainians. When soviet famine of 1932-33 took place in many regions, and there were millions of dead people other than Ukrainians and including Russians. For example, Kazakhs lost the most percentage-wise. But you hear nothing from West about them. Is it because they are aligned with Russia right now?
And a lot of people like to bring up signs about not eating your children and posting pic related. Well, that's fucking Russians during Volga famine, that took around 5 million lives!

>>138603035
>(((Commies)))
>(((Kaganovitch)))

Surely you selyanski know who was having all the fun with those millions dead?

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Remember these faces.

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>>138604701

>>138604721
>that Hitler mustache and puffed out chest
was Yagoda the most autistic chekist?

>>138601698
Interesting point for a jew to make

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>>138601234
Why do college retards love communism so much? Aren't these people supposed to be education.

If you cant use the holodomor as an argument against communism you can't use the holocaust as an argument against national socialism

>>138604701
>>138604721
You fail to mention that both were jew and that it was the jews that were genocideing the Ukrainians. gulags, interrogators etc etc most were jews.

>>138605046
Pretty interesting board for a nigger to visit.

>>138605200
*be educated

>>138601698
Oh look, it's Belarus, the most Russophilic of all the Slavs, making excuses for Joseph Stalin. What a surprise.

Don't worry. I'm sure your mommy and daddy were good, obedient slaves to the Bolshevik Jews. You should be so proud of them.

>>138605200
They believe in deluded utopian fantasy and like the idea of not having to worry about money and getting the time to pursue their "unique" interests because they're so special. They think communism will create an ideal artistic open-minded utopia paradise where no one suffers and everything is paid for. The internet/social media have really amped up the narcissism of this generation of young people who think they are geniuses being held back by the "system" that prevents them from pursuing their true dreams and that's why they're not going anywhere in life. I see it in a lot of art school SJW type kids who are deep into communism that I go to school with in the PNW.

>>138605233
Boom.

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>>138601234
kill yourself shill rat

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what was Maos project called? the one where he had farmers make steel in their farms causing a huge famine killing millions?

>>138605481
They're also the people that will unironically say "not real capitalism".

Hodor is a commie?
I'm fucking boycotting GoT now!

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>>138601234
Message received.

>>138604829
Toothbrush mustaches were popular everywhere at the time as the facial hair equivalent of an undercut. The style before industrialization was handlebars, but those were a liability for factory workers so they chopped off the sides.

>>138604165
>Is it because they are aligned with Russia right now
Yes

>>138605459
>the most Russophilic of all the Slavs
American education?
>making excuses for Joseph Stalin
Or just reading whith your ass? I did not express any personal opinion in my post, just answered what this arguement is about. So you can go and eat your chicken, nigger.

>>138605571
*communism obv

>>138605521
the Great Leap Forward
the deaths were also caused by bad weather in the first year of the project, retarded farming techniques (see >>138603585), and the Four Pests Campaign, wherein the Chinese peasants nearly hunted insect-eating sparrows to extinction, causing a plague of locusts that ruined the crops when the weather improved in subsequent years

>>138605643
>Toothbrush mustaches were popular everywhere at the time as the facial hair equivalent of an undercut. The style before industrialization was handlebars, but those were a liability for factory workers so they chopped off the sides.
unironically makes me think, good post

>it's okay that stalin plundered his own people so he could sell their crops abroad to afford the technology upgrades for his military with which he dreamed of conquering the world

Would you let Stalin murder you if that meant it would bring the fire of revolution to the west?

>>138601234
Rednecks are working class people deprived of resources which are instead funnelled into the big East Coast cities, causing them to have a lower standard of life and fewer opportunities. Why does the left always attack these poor, oppressed people and use classist insults against them? Their whole ideology developed out of a desire to help the working class, but now they seem to hate them.

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>>138605521
The, uh, "Three Years of Difficult Times." lmao

>>138602198

>Stalin
>Not a homicidal maniac

Yes he was, you drunk bitch.

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Why are Commies, and the like, so quick to denounce the violence of other ideologies but pretend their hands are clean?

>>138606335
Because "dude wasn't real socialism lmao"

>>138606139
>lasted for 4 years
>Three Years of Difficult Times
kek

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>>138601234

It's funny when you realize the hypocrisy - the SAME people who say there's "not enough evidence" therefore 6 million jewish deaths is a technical and logistical impossibility are, on another day of the week, unironically shilling 10 million holodomor deaths and how 2 dudes, kaganovich and yagoda, planned and organized it, with no proofs whatsoever except "read muh solzhenitsyn, d00d"

>>138606135
Misnomer of ~higher education~ and intellectual elitism.
A middle school dropout can get a public library card and compute through historical anecdotes of communism that it never fucking works. Without the Jewish indoctrination of an established institution, it's plain to see. Lefties hate this.

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>>138606135
>working class,
>working

There's your problem. The Marxist's useful idiot foot soldiers are not interested in working and are typically unemployed and unemployable.

Just like in the (((Bolshevik))) revolution and the French (Masonic) communist/atavistic revolutions before that, those who actually work for a living and have enjoyed moderate success in live by their achievement are slaughtered by those who can conceive nothing but to destroy anything they are to dull witted to understand or attain for themselves.

>>138601234
>HEY GUIZ DON'T MENTION THE BAD THINGS LEFTISTS DID U RAYCISS
Holy fuck its like we're living in a simulation of stupid

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>>138601234

>>138606532
>1959 to 1961
>4 years

nigga

>>138601234
>holodomor
wtf is the holodomor,

wow you killed 10 m of your own people because you forgot how to distribute food, kys commi

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>>138601234
>If the only argument you can think of to deny the holodomor is appropriating 30 year old unfunny memes from a fat proud American capitalist redneck...
>You might be a Bolshevik

Holodomor was real, except it wasn't targeted specifically against 'Ukrainian' nationality but rather a mix of maliciousness against class as per Marxist doctrine and also massive human error and logistical complication, just because of how retarded it was to handle the management of such large collectivization undertaking in such an ginormous area. It's like ruling through theory only, except the theory itself is also retarded.

What's disgusting is western kikes using holodomor against Russia when they and other nationalities lost millions to several Soviet famines too, and twist it into some malicious Russian plot to remove Ukrainians and replace them with Russians. Stalin was very real with population management, but everyone was his bitch, no favorites. Russians were just the most populace (because russian empire hurr) so ended being moved around everywhere the most. They also got killed the most, but everyone forgets that, cause muh evil fucking russia

>>138601754

Because 21st communists are urban bourgeois pseudo-intellectual retards who don't understand that the first step of implementing a communist system is to stand them against a wall

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>>138606790
>Holocaust is a lie
>Holodomor is a lie
The most Red pill you can take. Both of these genocide stories are exaggerations of the real events and real intentions. On top of that they "suddenly" appeared only (in around 1970s-80s) when it is really hard to disapprove the claims of genocide, because most witnesses died and little proof of the claims of genocide to begin with.

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>>138606790
Nigger the proof is in black & white. Now fucking kill yourself kike.

>>138608301
Except the name "Holodomor" in itself implies intention to genocide, which it wasn't. I not defending Soviet collectivism, it was pretty bad, but not intended to starve the population. The crisis was solved the year after it happened, which kind of tells you they did not plan to prolong "the genocide".

>Inb4 Jewish shill
Holocaust is also a lie. Propagated long after the war finished,

>>138608692
>deus vult flag
>defends the biggest killer of christians
Only a kike or burger would be this retarded, go commit suicide ape

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>>138601234

>>138601698
Yeah it's almost like armed military coming into your region and taking all of your food at gunpoint then preventing you from leaving is precisely the massive logistics fuckup that might lead to this!

All commies must die.

>>138609606
never take anything written under a templar flag seriously, pretty much 100% of posts with that flag or the nazbol one are retarded shiposts that only happen because the poster can hide their national flag

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>>138601234
>arguing about 15 million dead Christians is stupid
>oy vey remember the 6 million jews though

>>138609606
I am Russian. I don't see how it disproves anything I say. Sure, Suomibro, you some bad feelings about Russia, does not mean everyone else have.

>>138601287
Redneck here. I don't know what the holodomor is.

>>138609849
>All commies must die.
I doubt you will find anyone here who will argue.

>>138609901
How about the fact that in order to justify "Holodomor", Ukie gov-ment used pictures from 1921 Volga famine? I am not saying famine did not happen. I am saying "holodomor"did not happen. :Learn to differentiate plz.

>>138601698
>which in post-war USSR was pretty real
>Holodomor 1932 – 1933
>SWW 1939 – 1945
>post-war
Hello JIDF.

>>138609477
I shouldn't have referred to it as holodomor but the 1932-33 famine. I also don't believe the final intention of collectivization was intentional starvation, but there was punishment towards the kulaks not giving into Soviet demands. Stalin's rule was a game of numbers and he ruled through a very young ideology which seemed good in theory (most of the time at least) but a disaster in practice, which pretty much sums up the USSR imo.

>>138610697
>Holodomor 1932 – 1933
>SWW 1939 – 1945
How about another war? Anyway, you tell me when logistics in russia were good with those roads. Or you could at leat guess that I have heared about holodomor but never gave a single fuck to check.

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>>138601698
See >>138609849

The commies wanna do it again to the "rednecks" in the U.S. "Rednecks" in this case meaning every single person who doesn't embrace their ideology.

>>138610156
>>138610625
>I am Russian
>I am saying "holodomor"did not happen.
Yet another ruso-kike, who """"really hate commie, trust me"""".

>>138609849
The red army would also shoot little kids if they caught them trying to steal grain.

>>138605521
I have studied the Great Leap Forward. Basically the steel industry was located in costal regions usually close to China's borders. The guy was so paranoid of invasion he ordered it to be decentralised in rural areas in the center of the country so assets could not be attacked. The city steel works shut down and farmers were forced to smelt steel in their small villages and starve to death.

Weird. Not a SINGLE communist flag ITT.

All of you will burn.

>>138601234
This is why the Jews don't want their Goy questioning the Holodomor....they suddenly go from victims to perpetrators...

>Holodomor - 10+ million white Christian Ukranians exterminated by Bolshevik Jews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1yy_nHrY4o

>>138611177
Well you just have admitted that you're uneducated nigger and you're fine with it.

(((Crash Bandicam)))
Opinion ignored.

>>138601287
>>138610231
yup this

>>138611553
Angry hohol is angry that his shithole is not more relevant than mine and noone cares about it. Oh boy.

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>>138610625
Holodomor was conducted in regions where most of the Ukrainian population was including south Volga region.

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>>138610735
Like I said, I don't doubt people died. But the devil is in the details, like they say. Today, "Holodomor" is jut an excuse to fight Russia or the Russian population in Donbass. Like they had anything to do with Soviet collectivization.

>>138611310
Hello, Urko-Turk (pic related). The only reason you justify the existence of your pathetic gov-ment is "Holodomor". The kids in Donbass have nothing to do with it, and yet they are somehow undesirable on their own land. Also Ukie calling someone a kick is some kind of twisted humour. All the so-called "NeoNazi" battalions in the Ukraine are Jewish oligarchy shills, thats why you guys are never criticized in Western media.

>>138601234
If anyone said that to me in real life I'd assault them

just sayin

>>138612955
>just sayin
well i'm a super sayin, square up nigguh, cap'n honey choo choo don't play this shit

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>>138612236
Only if you refer to Ukrainians as the citizens of modern Ukraine, or those who live on the territory of modern Ukraine.
If referring to ethnicity, half of the rigions on your map are not majority "Ukrainian". An yet the Western Ukranians, who were mostly in Poland at that time seem to be most vocal about the "Holodomor", which they never experienced. They were just poor peasants lorded over by the Poles.

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>>138601234
The holodomor did nutting wrong

He was a good goy

>>138601698
>just a logistics fuckup and resources shortage
So, something like the lolohoax?

Stop posting here, shill

>>138613048
Did school start back yet, or what?

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>>138601234

FUCK OFF COMMIE

>>138601234
Fail: The Post

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>>138601379
It's pretty much their job.

>>138601287
Redneck checking in. Can confirm. If you need to survive in the woods indefinitely, I'm your man though.

>>138610231
>>138611829
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

>The Holodomor was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine in 1932 and 1933 that killed an officially estimated 7 million to 10 million people. It was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–33, which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country.

>During the Holodomor millions of inhabitants of Ukraine, the majority of whom were ethnic Ukrainians, died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine. Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.

Of course wikipedia does not mention the Jew who ran this genocide of white Christians in Ukraine.

>>138601234
Can't wait to make denying the Armenian genocide illegal in Germany. Turks will chimp the fuck out.

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>>138601698
>(((logistics fuckup)))

russian proxy spotted.

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>>138616254

>(((yogoda)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZfCevl24Xc

>>138601234
Well, of course we aren't arguing, since it happened and it can't be denied.

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>>138601234

>>138604165
More people have heard about the Ukraine, people might also think you are making shit if you talk about Kazakhstan or not even react due to the Borat movie.

>>138601234
What is there to argue about?

>>138610697
post civil war

>>138601234
Holodomor is a special meme developed by India for western consumption, since nobody actually cares about history - it worked out quite okay. But in reality its in the same realm as holohoax.

>>138615334
I am not a good source, mate. So better look up yourself. What I know, that there was "redistibution of wealth", so the people who grew crops could get all of said crops taken elsewhere without any left to feed. USSR was always a shit place, but after the revolution without external enemy, commies fought their own who were not "eager enogh to contribute".

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>>138617258
stalin might've dont bad shit, but he was a man of his time

>>138617258
>it worked out quite okay. But in reality its in the same realm as holohoax.
>after millions died

You can't make the omelette of Communism without breaking a few million eggs, comrade! (Wait, where's the fucking omelette?!)

>>138616254

Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully at home in 1991 of old age... strange that the same people hunting down camp cooks at Auschwitz had no interest in bringing to justice a man who starved at least a million peasants to death

>>138601698
>Fucking over an entire demographic and trying to make it look like incompetence on your end

So... obamacare?

>>138618312
Just communism.

> when Lenin died, it turned out that the second man in the communist party, Trotsky, is a traitor. Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin and Stalin overthrown Trotsky and drove him out from USSR.
> A couple years later it turned out that Kamenev, Zinoviev and Bukharin were traitors as well. Glorious comrade Yagodin shot them. Soon, he was executed by Yezhov for being a foreign agent.
> A couple years later it turned out that Yezhov was not a comrade, but just a traitor and foreign agent. so he was executed by Beria.
> After Stalin's death everybody realized that Beria was a traitor too, so Zhukov deposed Beria and executed him.
> Soon, Khrushev discovered that Zhukov was a nasty plotter, so he was sent to Ural.
> Moreover, later it turned out that Stalin was the ultimate enemy and a traitor, so as most of Politburo. Stalin was kicked out of his mausoleum, and Politburo along with their ally Shepilov was disperesed by Khrushev and his comrades.
> Several years later, it turned out that Khrushev was a voluntarist, rogue and harmful man in general, so he was sent to retirement by Brezhnev.
> Soon Brezhnev have died, and it turned out that he was an old retard and the main cause of Era of Stagnation.
> Then there were two other retards, but nobody remembers them because they had died too quickly.
> Then the young, energetic Gorbachev came to power. It turned out that the entire Party consisted of traitors, enemies and foreign agent, so he was going to fix that.
> But the USSR have collapsed. And Gorbachev is now a traitor.

>>138601698
COINCIDENCE

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>>138617907
You would think there're so many "NeoNazis" in Ukraine. Enough to hold these Jews accountable for the crimes.
>http://www.stalkerzone.org/union-jews-bandera-sad-phenomenon/

>>138601234
>Everyone is naturally a Antifa. It just means being someone that hates faschist nazis.
the things I read on facebook man

>>138604165
>And a lot of people like to bring up signs about not eating your children and posting pic related. Well, that's fucking Russians during Volga famine, that took around 5 million lives!
It's not, it's from Nazino. This has nothing to do with famine, it was an intentional massacre.

>EVERYONE AGAINST US IS A DUMB INBRED REDNECK

said every suburb communist ever

>>138619005
>mfw this would make an amazingly funny comedy skit if so many people didn't die

>>138601698
pls don't nuke Warszawa while Zapad'17 is on
or nuke it but don't invade

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>>138601698
>FUNNY, ISN'T IT?
>FUNNY
>ISN'T IT?

>>138601234
All communists will be killed one day. The world will eventually be obliged to defend themselves from the minority of world revolutionaries. You will die. It's a matter of time. Keep suppressing free speech. Keep marching and being violent assholes. Keep attacking people. Your blood will be on your own head.