When are we going to start using these?

>>138532370

I use metric every day.

Just work in science or the military, faggot.

>rebels against britain with help of french
>doesn't use the french's metric system, uses british system
really fires my neurons

>>138532477
construction unfortunately

>>138532600
it's almost like these systems were in place before the rebellion

Learn fractions you fucking retards, god damn. There is literally no reason an American should not be fluent with the imperial system.

Using metric for science or other such things is acceptable, but Jesus Christ lad shut the fuck up

>>138532370
Converting between kilograms and grams is not important. Why? Do you care how many kilograms a paperclip weighs? Whatever unit is used, it's sized for the application. If a tank is weighed in tons, do I really care how much that would be in pounds? Or ounces? Why?

>>138532600
We're still mates, right Dad?

>>138532676
>before the rebellion
So remove it along with the brits

>>138532676

>construction

Heh, yeah, you're fucked dude.

>>138532370
we will be using imperial to the death, even if it's in name and we secretly use metric for all things important

The imperial system is a statement. It is a giant middle finger to the rest of the world and we are damn proud of it

>>138532917
>Converting between kilograms and grams is not important.

You're a fucking idiot.

> Do you care how many kilograms a paperclip weighs?
You may well need this at some point.

Design and construction of things becomes easier with the use of metric, and yes, people go up and down scales to suit units to equations all the fucking time you numpty.

>>138532676
>Hand me that 5.08x10.16 and those 7.62 wood screws please, oh and could you grab .35 liters of wood glue?

Is that really what you want?

>>138533201
>Design and construction of things becomes easier with the use of metric

What's the radius of a circle with a circumference of one kilometer?

>>138532917
It's not that bad when it's only one unit but when someone says he's 5 feet 9 inches tall or something like that I get the urge to beat him with a metric ruler.

>>138532370
Metric is annoying as fuck. Half the time the x1000 and the /1000 names overlap. Millimetre? Kilometre? Just sheer faggotry.
Imperial is just plain superior as the measurements all make sense in day to day life. 6ft is pretty tall. 5ft is pretty short. 1 pint is a good amount of beer. 10 stone is for women or faggots without a trace of muscle. 15 stone means you are carrying too much weight or you're a bodybuilder while 20 stone means you are a fat fuck that has trouble getting out of bed. 1 mile means a 15 minute journey on foot while 10 miles means you should really consider taking a car if you want to get there any time soon.

Also I really want to know how metric faggots get through the day without killing themselves when literally every second is measured in imperial? You wont use your precious kiloseconds but instead cling to the god given minutes, hours and days.

>>138533411
Structural engineer here.

It would be:

>100DP x 50 Timbers
on our drawings

I can't believe you're retarded enough to think that 1.6mm or 0.8mm is an achievable tolerance for timber.

You're mentally deficient.

>about 20 ounces of x
what the fuck does this even mean
just say 500 milliliters or something jesus christ

most people i know, know how to use both its not really a big deal

>>138532370
OP is a commie faggot

>>138533568
(500/pi) metres

I'm not sure what irrational numbers have to do with metric vs. imperial, but I suspect you might be retarded.

>>138533711
What the fuck are you talking about

It was centimeters dude

Use your fucking brain and you'd see I was talking about a 2"x4" and 3" wood screws

>>138532984
>It is a giant middle finger to the rest of the world and we are damn proud of it
>implying the entire world hasn't already been using imperial.

Enjoy living in the iron ages nigger. Perhaps one day you will be able to build a mudhut for yourself.

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>>138533689
Why don't you become /hybrid/ master race? There is no reason to adhere to only one system of measurement.

>>138533689
All those things only make sense to you because you are used to it. To me 1,8m is pretty tall and 1,6m is pretty short, 1 liter is a good amount of beer and so on.

>>138533739
>1 minute.
Just say 0.6 centiseconds or something Jesus Christ.

>>138532370
The Utah state constitution originally mandated the metric system be used in the state, that got repealed though cause we officially part of murica now.

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The imperial connection coincides with music and rythym. When learning the imperial system and fractions you learn the subdivisions of music as well. whole note, 1/2 note, 1/4 note, 1/8th note etc.

12 Iches in a foot, 12 notes in an octave.
there are commonalities all throughout that ease the mind into seeing more than just numbers and be open to learning music at a faster pace and vice versa.

>>138534164
we use both imperial or metric, depending on the job

Officially it will always be imperial. But again that doesn't mean we can't use metric when we need to

>>138534105
Construction units are millimeters, not centimeters.

100 x 50 = 2"x4"

Both of which are nominal sizes,

i.e. 2"x4" aren't actually exactly 2"x4", so what makes you think that timbers would be described as 10.16cm x 5.08cm?

Idiot.

>>138532370
You don't know this but the problem with this system is the kilogram is based on a literal object

>>138532370
My cock is 24.13 cm happy now?

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>>138532370
Probably never. It would mean the whole infrastructure of your enormous country would have to be redone. Trains and train tracks, building materials like I beams, screws, tools, road signs and do you probably cars as well )etc. It's just not worth it. Sure, I think that metric system is superior to to imperial but it's just not worth the hassle

>>138534617
>americans confusing cm and mm again.

>>138534747
God I fucked that last bit up
>and probably cars as well

>>138533868
>I'm not sure what irrational numbers have to do with metric vs. imperial

Of course you're not.
22/7 you mong.

>>138532917
>do I really care how much that would be in pounds? Or ounces? Why?
If you add some cargo and passengers you might care how much your vehicles now weighs.

Have fun converting 2 gross 6 gallon water bottles into tons in your head.

>>138532370
I use metric in medical works every day. I prefer Imperial when dealing with distance and temperature as they both make more sense in a big picture.

Huge difference between 75 and 82 F, whereas 32 avd 33 C don't show the scope.

>>138532370
Petroleum industry

>>138535120
>temperature
I understand distance, I often use imperial at work but fuck me, I will never understand how F makes more sense than C. But whatever works for you, I guess

>>138534992
I hope this is bait.
Do you even know what an irrational number is?

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>>138534833

>>138535120
How the hell is the difference between 1° C important in everyday life?

>>138535052
Have fun converting 176 minutes into hours in your head.

>>138533201
>> Do you care how many kilograms a paperclip weighs?
>You may well need this at some point.

Give me one reason.

>>138535120
Are you telling me your thermometers doesn't showth tenths of a centigrade, and therefore not just 32.5 C?

>>138534494
Well in America we use inches and feet so excuse me, snowflake. IDGAF what bongs do, but OP should quit bitching and embrace imperial units.

>>138534992

You meant a circumference of 2km, not 1km.

also, your approximation of pi is shitty, and has nothing to do with imperial vs metric.
pi isn't redefined for the metric system


You're literally retarded.

>>138533585
Nothing is stopping people from saying 5.75 ft instead of 5'9"

Since you mentioned length...

There's 12 inches in a foot. This is a much more useful than 10 divisions. It's evenly divisible by 2, 3, and 4. Unfortunately, humans have 10 fingers, so we're stuck with a base 10 number system. A base 12 would have been more useful. The Babylonians used 60 for time probably because it so easy to subdivide rather than 100. Same for angles.

>>138535582
Making sure units cancel in equations.

I do it all the time, not specifically with paperclips, but soil densities are in g/cm^3 and can easily be converted to kg/m^3 for weight calcs.

>>138535467
A 72 degree day, I'll wear pants. A 85 degree day, I'll wear shorts.
>>138535721
32.5 sounds no different than 32 to me.
>>138535223
It makes no sense scientifically or medically. It works better for temperature, IMO.

>>138535348
>Do you even know what an irrational number is?
Do you even know what the real world is?
Everything we build is only an approximation; the more time and money spent, the closer that approximation comes to the theoretical perfect measurement.

>>138535560
2 hours 56 minutes. 2 lots of sixty is 120 leaving 56 to make 176.

That was too easy but I'm not really sure how it relates given that we don't use a 10 hour clock or a 100 minute hour.

Can you recall in a instant how many pounds of water in a gallon and multiply that by some other large number?

I find remembering and multiply by 10, 100 or 1000 virtually every time much easier.

>>138532917

For reference

>Metric:
1,000mm = 1m
1,000m = 1km
1 cubic cm = 1ml
1000ml = 1l
1,000l = 1kl
1,000g = 1kg
1,000kg = 1t
(1,000ml water weighs 1kg)
1 cubic m = 1,000l
1 hectare = 1,000 sqm

>Imperial:
12 inches = 1 foot
36 inches = 1 yard
1,760 yards = 1 mile
5,280 feet = 1 mile
16 ounces = 1 pound
128 fluid ounces = gallon
2,000 pounds = 1 ton
1 acre = 43,560 sq feet
1 acre = 4,840 sq yards

>>138535052
The weight of the cargo and passengers would be a consistent unit like pounds. I wouldn't need to convert.

BTW, what's to stop me from weighing things in "kilo" pounds? (1 ton = 2 kilopounds, so the relative size is similar and I don't need to use metric bullshit to get units that are reasonable.)

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>>138536144
>the more time and money spent, the closer that approximation comes to the theoretical perfect measurement
Americans actually believe this about irrational numbers.

>>138536225
You just defended imperial. If you were a true metric user you would use kiloseconds.

>>138534747
The US already officially uses the metric system.

>>138535975
You didn't answer my request. Give an example why I would need to know how many kilograms a paperclip weighs.

>>138536444
i like this pic

>>138536365
>BTW, what's to stop me from weighing things in "kilo" pounds? (1 ton = 2 kilopounds, so the relative size is similar and I don't need to use metric bullshit to get units that are reasonable.)
Nothing. Do it if you think it will help.

>>138535780
>You meant a circumference of 2km, not 1km.
No.
I meant exactly what I wrote.

Why don't you go ahead and explain how metric is more accurate than imperial?
Is it tied to a universal constant? (when it was created, not a bullshit retcon)
Or, as I suspect, is it just another measurement created by people?

Imperial is no more accurate than metric, but it does have the advantage of not being limited to base10 for practical use.
Your answer of 500/pi meters was correct. Now, go create a perfect circle in the real world with those exact dimensions.
I think you'll find it no more possible using metric than imperial.

>>138536574
Calculating the material required for x number of paperclips.

Your material comes in tonnes, or more likely kg, convert weight of one paperclip into kg and divide one by the other and you're done.

>>138536339
And? What's the point? Imperial isn't linear. Converting is more difficult, but who cares? If I want to measure a room, it's going to be in feet. I'm never going to need to know how many miles long my room is. Conversely, I'm never going to care how many feet it is between my home and my workplace. Ease of conversion is overrated.

>>138532370
>implying scientists don't already use this

>implying anyone besides scientists matters

>>138535744
>I am retarded so I win!

>>138532370

if 1 kilogram = 1000 grams is easier for you than 16 oz = 1lb, it's because you're a brainlet.

>>138536838
>Why don't you go ahead and explain how metric is more accurate than imperial?

I never said this. Why would I explain it?

>I think you'll find it no more possible using metric than imperial.
who said it was more possible with one over the other?

I'm not sure if you're trolling, but I didn't say it was more accurate, I just said it was easier - mainly because conversion between weights/mass/length/volume is far simpler.

I'm sorry about your inability to read, but that has nothing to do with Imperial vs Metric.

kys

>>138536444
Quite funny since the largest Jewish population outside of Israel lives in the US and not by much.
5.4 million jews in US vs 6.2 million jews in Israel.
The jewish population in the US is larger than the entire white population of Norway.

>>138537276
>The jewish population in the US is larger than the entire white population of Norway.
Give it a decade and the same will be true for the US.

>>138536074
>A 72 degree day, I'll wear pants. A 85 degree day, I'll wear shorts.
That's 22°C and 29°C respectively, a difference of 7. When is the difference between 32°C and 33°C important?
Definitely a shorts day.

>>138537430
What will be true for the US? It is already true for the US.

>>138536074
0 celsius is freezing point of water, 100 celsius is boiling point.

>>138536857
The number X tons of metal = Y paperclips is a known amount. The paperclip manufacturer may need to know how many tons of metal to buy, but they don't care about the weight of the individual paperclip in "pico-tons" to estimate how many tons they will need.

>>138537794
He's doing the >America >White bait meme.

Because impeareal = impeach

>>138534747
>Trains and train tracks
Most of the world uses the Standard gauge which is defined as 1435mm in every country except the US where it's defined as 4ft 8½inches
Literally the same standard, the US is just being special snowflakes.

Besides, the imperial system is defined by the metric, so everything is technically already in metric. Just written in dumb.

>>138537155
take the imperial units conversion mental arithmetic test
it's fun i promise*
>>138535052
>*fun is subjective

>>138537155
Base 16 is superior for division of product. Half of a pound is 8 oz. Half of that is 4 oz. Half of that is 2 oz. Half of that is 1 oz. Do that with metric and you get into fractions real quick.

>>138535780
22/7 is perfectly fine you giant retard.

>>138537870


each paperclip weighs 2g

How many paperclips will 10t of steel wire make?

>>138532370

Because we are victims of British Colonialism.

As such, we measure OP's faggotry in pounds.

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>>138532370
wow, what a unique and interesting topic.

>>138536658
>Sweden Yes
>DMY
Sweden is one of the few countries that use the non-retarded YMD, aka ISO 8601, for dates.

>>138537067
kek

>>138538220
24 is also pretty great because it divides by 12, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2 and 1. Probably why its uses for hours in the day.

>>138538305
The Large Hadron Collider is 17mi / 27km in circumference approx.

Are you telling me that 22/7 would suffice for construction at that scale?

You'd be 11 metres ~ 33ft out if you were calculating material requirements.

>>138536074
>32.5 sounds no different than 32 to me.
>I use metric in medical works every day.
I hope you aren't in charge of people's health.

>>138538454
5 million

>>138532370
EVERY AMERICAN IN THIS THREAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3bEh-PEk1g

>>138536339
A pint's a pound the world around.

>>138536838
>Being this retarded.

>>138539015
mcgregor is gonna get BLACKED

>>138539015
EVERY AMERICAN IN THIS THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpwa0je6_Y

>>138539015
Says the guy who measures his day in hours.

>>138536838
>Is it tied to a universal constant? (when it was created, not a bullshit retcon)

Kek, so fuck SI units right? It's all a retcon game. We'll just use whatever units were in use when a universal constant it discovered. Totally makes sense. This is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen posted here.

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>>138538938
wow u bilt the large hadron collider?

>>138532370
The same reason we still drive on the left side of the road, unlike most of the planet.

It's too much hassle to change it

>non moon landing units of measurement
rofl

>>138538454
5 million if you simply do a quick conversion, but real life is not linear. In reality, there will have to be additional parameters for waste, etc. The true conversion will be based on trial and error and ultimately expressed in tons. And no, the paperclip manufacturer is not going to need to know how many additional "pico-tones" of metal will made one additional paperclip.

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>Muh Imperial system

>>138539015
(Technically, he's right
Steel has higher density and therefore lower buoyancy
Weight is the net-force that gravity exerts on an object
The gram is a unit a mass, not weight.)

>>138539688
>rest of science uses SI units
>American engineering uses imperial units

result:
https://www.wired.com/2010/11/1110mars-climate-observer-report/

>1999: A disaster investigation board reports that NASA’s Mars Climate Orbiter burned up in the Martian atmosphere because engineers failed to convert units from English to metric.

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>>138538907

>my arbitrary system of measurement is better than your arbitrary system of measurement

The basis of the metric system is as tenuous as the imperial system.

Metric is, essentially, an appeal to aesthetics with its basis -- it just looks good that things increase by 10. Why 10? Why not 2? Why not 5? etc. etc.

Which is more accurate: 1' or 100cm? Nonsensical question and both can be broken down to infinite increments.

>>138539688

now watch as this shitty bait actually works on literal redditors

>>138539804
lol you guys do the worst of everything. pip pip cheerio how many stone of petrol will this sixpence get me?

>>138539931
Remember to archive
https://archive.is/lum3O

>>138539646
which side of the road you drive on does not have differing advantages

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>>138539931
AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREE.

>>138540002
the basis of the imperial system is the metric system if I'm not mistaken

>>138539711
A picotonne is 0.000001 you fucking retard.

>>138539443
No, not the LHC directly - I only designed some of the retaining structures for one of the buildings at CERN, but you get the idea.

>>138539711
THE FUCK DOES WASTE HAVE TO DO WITH THE METRIC SYSTEM

JESUS CHRIST

NO WONDER YOUR NAVY KEEP RUNNING INTO THINGS

>>138540162
How do you tell time without the bongs? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/21/big-ben-bongs-to-sound-final-time-for-four-years

>>138539413
If I had the power to change the way we measure time to metric I'd do it in a heartbeat.

>>138540288
Ignore him, classic movement of the goalposts, he asked for a hypothetical scenario and then

>no but ur scenario is not inclusive of the carbon impact of da coral reefs therefore inches are superior

>>138540162
>No, not the LHC directly - I only designed some of the retaining structures for one of the buildings at CERN, but you get the idea.
lol you try to make this sound impressive but slinging steel out of a fab shop is the same shit no matter where you are.

>>138532370
I would prefer if we use 240/480v electricity first. We need the power!

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>>138540288
>Ask for a realistic example
>Get unrealistic example

>>138540480
We use watches designed and manufactured to metric standards.

Also, pretty sure it's no longer Big Ben, it's Massive Mohammed.

>>138540667
If we want electric cars we'll have to make this switch at some point.

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>>138540014
Call yourselves white but you don't even use first-world measurements.

>>138540521
Kiloseconds exist.

>>138540667
You have 240V if you want it.

>>138534329
Interesting observation.

>>138540636
>slinging steel out of a fab shop

Do you know what 'Design' means?

also
>retaining structures are made in a steel fab shop

huh?

>>138539411
EVERY AMERICAN IN THIS THREAD ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjlIhCPAY0w

>>138541010
120v is totally worthless. We should get rid of it. Almost everything is either 240v or 120/240v auto sensing.

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>>138540835
Number of Imperial countries that went to the moon: 1

Number of Metric countries that went to the moon: 0

I rest my case, your honor.

>>138538938
>You'd be 11 metres ~ 33ft out if you were calculating material requirements.

Not if you weren't a complete moron.
Anyone who works in the real world always rounds up, as well as allowing for spillage, breakage, and other loss.
If you calculate that you'll need 1206 screws for your project, and you order exactly 1206 screws, you have no common sense at all.

>>138532370
>refuting the imperial system
this is when america truly dies

>>138540667
Most homes should have 208v service. We just normally only run it to specific things that use it like A/C systems and electric dryers.

>>138540824
Tesla uses and 240V 50 amp. I have a line in my house now. No need to upgrade.

>>138541057
damn u got triggered like a bitch here

>>138541145
Most devices need low voltage DC. High voltage AC is only useful for transmitting over long distances.

If you're so fucking retarded you can't convert using imperial you should neck yourself

>>138541544
nice strawman, dipshit

>>138541185
>if you're fabricating large sections of expensive electromechanical equipment you'd just order a few extras
>sections of particle accelerators are equivalent to ordering screws in batches at the hardware store
>I'll just pick up a few extra hadron colliders at home depot, they do them in batches of 10000.

Have you ever stopped to think about where your life went wrong?

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>>138541161
Number of countries that give a fuck: 0.

realtalk the metric conversion would be a big hassle and cost a ton of money for something that has basically no impact to the average person so it has no momentum behind it

>>138541488
ebin

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>>138532370
Nice bait. Pic related is why we use imperial

>>138541743
damn i'll never recover

if metric is so much better name a single time or place you've ever heard of someone using a decimeter in regular life the same way people use inches or feet

>>138541685
>this faggot doesn't think it's a good idea to have backup parts

You must be a desk jockey.

>>138540915
>kiloseconds
I've heard of centi- and milliseconds, but where do you need 1000 seconds?
Anyway I imagined it to be day, deciday, centiday etc.

>>138533868
Or American...six of one...

>>138532370
Metric is autistic. Why is 10 so special? Who the fuck has evet used a decca litre ever?

It's all just autistic bullshit invented by people who never worked with their hands. Studies have show that people are much better at estimating in imperial than metric because it's tied to natual units of measure. Put another way, its easier to estimate and inch a cup or a pound than comparable units of measure.

>inb4 anecdotes from fag counties

When you cam figure out how a metric calendat is supposed to work for and normal person, then I'll listen. Intil then metric will continue to be an oppresive sperg cult for people who don't know how to change their own oil.

>>138532917
Noice

>>138533201
>You may well need this at some point

No. I will never need this.

>>138542054
Exactly. They use centimeters because decimeters are too unwieldy. They sidestep the fractional problem (somewhat) because they're using large numbers. Of course, it's really no different than decimals 2.5dm vs 25cm. You swap decimals for a retarded scale.

>>138542169
A kilosecond is 16.666 minutes. Similar to 15 minutes as a time block. People could easily use them but they wont because metric is faggotry.

>>138532370
The imperial system has measurements which can evenly be divided by 2, 3, and 4

>>138542244
In Europe I've seen bottles of soda measured in centiliters. Of course that's not really anything important but I thought it was interesting.

>>138542575
>No. I will never need this.
Not for your job at McDonalds, no you won't.

>>138542647
>The imperial system has measurements which can evenly be divided by 2, 3, and 4
and 5 and 11.

>>138542647
One thing Europe got right was paper. In US, letter is 8.5"x11" Legal is 8.5x14" WTF?

At least in Europe, the paper sizes keep doubling/halving. Hmmm... just like imperial units. What a great idea!

>>138542244
>cup
>specifying weight using a volume measurement

>a cup of water and a cup of flour are different weights of stuff

unbelievable.

>>138533739
>about 20 ounces of x
what the fuck does this even mean
just say 500 milliliters or something jesus chris

Guessing from your flag you have some massively devalued currency where milk cost 5,000,000,000 xs, so it comes easy for you to use such stupidly large figures for something like a glass of water.

When are we going to start using Planck Units? Those are the only logically defined units after all.

>>138536898
>And? What's the point? Imperial isn't linear. Converting is more difficult, but who cares?

>Something is a lot more complicated, but who the fuck cares, it's better than the easy option.

Retarded much?

>>138543154
What does that have to do with metric? That's an issue with the tool, not the units.

BTW, I will defend metric here. Grams are a great unit for cooking. Not because they convert to kilograms easily. The SCALE of the measure is useful for precision measurement for cooking.

>>138534494
>>138537067
Well done bong

>>138534105
People who think metric is better have no concept of anything that would ever require a screwdriver

>>138543569
>not just using vaguely defined bunches and pinches of all your ingredients

>>138543628
Or doing something practical like hanging a picture on a wall.

>>138543261
hahahahahahahahaha

>>138533585
I'm 1.6423457644354 m tall.

>>138543777
Checked
What did Kek mean by this?

>>138543569
>What does that have to do with metric?
nothing, I just think it's dumb.

Measure in ounces, surely?

>>138543628
Agreed, we don't use screwdrivers here in Europe, everything is Ikea and velcro.

retard

>>138543886
lmao manlet.

>>138542629
Metric based on seconds is terrible, because it doesn't fit in days properly.
After thinking about it this would be best (using § as a placeholder, what the unit is called doesn't really mater:
From sunrise to sunrise= 1 hecto§
1hecto§=100§
1§=10deci§
Will obviously never happen, because everyone is so used to the current system.

Quick and honest question asked by a former industrial mechanic from Germany. We obviously used the metric system, but I was always wondering - how are plans for small parts that have to be semi-detailed in the US labeled in terms of their measures?

Remembering back in the old days of the internships, the basic rules of drawing and labeling plans have been hammered into us, like not mixing different length unts, leave out the remaining resulting lengths that are obvious or unnecessary (if you have 100mm total length and a recess at 40mm being 10mm wide, you don't need to mark the remaining 50mm from the other side, all this stuff) and so on and so forth.

I wonder, since most of the units in the imperial system are always a (atleast to me) weird combination of several units, how do you guys handle that? To me personally, it would be confusing as fuck if I had to break down several mixed units in my head in order to get a somewhat okay-ish measure of what I have to work on

>>138543960
I agree. Ounces aren't scaled well and Imperial using the SAME name for a volume measurement and a weight measurement is the height of stupidity. I only use grams in my recipes.

>>138543960
Wait, you bongs don't use the new sonic screwdrivers yet?

>>138533689
We weigh shit in pounds. 100 pounds for a bitch or a fag. 200 pounds for a Man. 400 pounds for a fat fucking fucker.

>>138541161

Have a guess at what set of units they used on all the calculations in NASA, even nearly 50 years on the rest of your dumbfuck country hasn't go to.

http://askawiseman.com/

tl;dr metric advocates aren't smarter, they are soft-handed spergs.

>>138544183
>like not mixing different length unts
Americans remember 'rules of thumb' for everything.

Designing Reinforced concrete for example
>thickness in inches
>height in feet
>reinforcement number correlates to 1/8 of an inch, i.e. No. 5 = 5/8ths of an inch etc.

Meanwhile here we do everything in millimeters and like you we don't use any mixed units.

All scales and units on a given drawing are all the same.

>>138544165
Metric is terrible because it doesn't fit into real situations. It's just abstract. You Germans are alright with it because even your language got raped by self proclaimed scientists.

>>138544547
Correction: http://askawiseman.com/metric/

>>138544429
Yeah well over here in the only real country on Earth we use stone.

>>138544638
It doesn't fit in real situations? Are you high little bong?

>>138540149
You are

>>138544547
>Metric advocates aren't smarter
>Meanwhile all scientific work is done in metrics
Really, really, activated my almonds.

>>138544815
Everything ends up with decimal places using metric. Usually a lot of them.
>3.30l coke lol.

>>138533411
Yes, everything is based of intervals of 10

>>138544904
no, it is. I just googled it

>>138532370
>I can't into kilometers
It's a free country, no one is stopping you.

>>138541185

This is American wastage at its finest, just buy extra and we won't need to worry.

In actual manufacturing (not some shit toolshed project) everything is manufactured to exacting recipes and designs. If a paracetamol tablet is required to be 200mg, the tolerance is around +-1mg.

Note how this would be much more difficult in imperial - 3.086 grains, +- 0.3086 grains.

>>138544183
Because so many companies are multi-national these days, most of the drawings are done in metric to accommodate foreign suppliers. Construction and structural type stuff is still feet and inches.

>>138543886
I don't think you measured yourself down to the millimeter.
Then again you must be really conscious of your height so maybe you did.

>>138532370
I use both. Engineer

>>138545012
never seen 3,30 l

more like 0,33 l . And that is coming from 1 l , 1/2 of it is 0,5 l, and 0,33 l is 1/3. Even though, and i admit that, 0,33 is a shitty number, it is more even than most of the imperial system.

>>138537867
That's stupid. Boil me at 212 gaylord

>>138543886
1,6423457644354*

>>138545454
Same. I find imperial obtuse though when you have to do math. Metric all fits nicely.

>>138533711
>Structural engineer
What a meme engineering degree.

>>138538938
And just how often are you building a Hadron Collider you fucking loser?

>>138545463
>A dozen cookies: 2,3,4,6 can enjoy fine.
>10 cookies: 2, 5 can enjoy fine.
How likely is it that you have exactly 5 people in your small group of friends?

Because it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to just stop using and replace everything we have that uses imperial

>>138538970
>not 6 gorillion
shame

>>138532370
Base twelve is better for working with proportions and base 2^x is better for working with fractions

>>138545252
>a paracetamol tablet and a 40 story building are restricted to the same tolerances

This is how I know you have soft hands.

>>138545781
Metric system is dehumanizing. Go back to R9k flamer. Chad measures his dick in feet not micrometers.

>>138534164
america is the most powerful nation on the planet no matter how you look at it.

>>138545781

What the fuck? Genuinely baffled by your retarded analogy.

>>138545012
330mL bong, wtf

>>138546227
It's called sharing Dick lord. Something you and mohummed should be quite familiar with.

>>138546330
>People actually bothered learning the metric system.

>>138535744
Why do you think they're called imperial units you fucking moron? it was literally invented in "bongland".....

[spoiler]Snnf, it's not gonna ring for another 4 years lads[/spoiler]

>>138545678
I did Civil Engineering + French, encule

>>138545679
Projects on that scale come regularly because I'm not a fucking retard.

>you loser
kek

>>138545781
Funny enough, the perfect amount of close friends is 4,6. Which is, rounded, 5.

>>138542790
Still beats working in a paperclip factory with no windows, loser.

>>138545668
Yup...total pain in the ass

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>>138532370
I like imperial because I get more gas compared to if I fill the car in liters.

Liter is a jew trick to give you less gas.

>>138546227
What's more important? Using base 10 so you can move the decimal place easier or base 12 so it's easier to divide under many more real-life conditions?

>>138546487
Just make 2 extra cookies

>sharing
lmao don't kid yourself, that's a single portion for you, you fat american fuck

>>138546592
>using comma instead of a period for a decimal point
Spic detected

>>138546592
You mean averaged? And by averaged you mean wrong?

>>138546664
>I like imperial because I get more gas compared to if I fill the car in liters.

>Liter is a jew trick to give you less gas.

What the fuck are you talking about, why would they want to sell you less gas?

>>138543154
You find that difficult? Have you ever mett separate people with the same name? How did you handle it?

>>138532370
imperial is better for intuitive measurements (directions, recipes, alcohol servings)

metric is better for standard measurements (shopping, maps, science)

>>138546926
Because one gallon is much more than one liter

>>138546952
>How did you handle it?
It was fine because I don't measure people with 'cups'.

>>138546741
you mean just a normal european my fat little friend?

>>138546743

I mean what i said bong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding

>>138547041
So what's the jewish trick here, someone's selling you less gas? just keep the fucking nozzle in longer dude.

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>>138532370
Because Americans are the most moronic people on the face of this earth even the most niggery parts of Africa are smarter then Americans

>>138539711
>Picotones
kek, obviously never used the metric system, or else he would know there is no such thing as picotones, its picograms. or in the case of picotonnes, it would be the equivalent of nanograms.

>>138547203
Yeah, but then I obviously pay more if I need to fill up like four times as much...

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>>138546730
6 cookies is enough. Don't want to get rotten teeth.

We don't use Imperial. We use United States Customary Units.

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United States customary units are a system of measurements commonly used in the United States. The United States customary system (USCS or USC) developed from English units which were in use in the British Empire before the U.S. became an independent country. However, the United Kingdom's system of measures was overhauled in 1824 to create the imperial system, changing the definitions of some units. Therefore, while many U.S. units are essentially similar to their Imperial counterparts, there are significant differences between the systems.

>>138547142
How the fuck do you have 4.6 friends? Is this another metric idea?

>>138542244
>it's tied to natural units of measurement
Name fucking one.

the government doesnt wont change it

it all comes down to companies and possibly wide spread charter schools forcing metric system

>>138547473
Look at your hand. Count the areas between the joints on your fingers with your thumb. You have twelve on each hand.

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>>138546068
My nigga!

My perfect system would be metric in base 12.

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>>138546108

Imperial is just an old-fashioned way of viewing the world.

The origin of an acre is the amount of land 1 man can plough in 1 day (with 1 ox). Obviously, this definition is now nonsensical when considering modern farming methods.

The same can be said about all imperial measurements - the pound (lb) is taken from the original Roman Libra, which in base 12 was divided into uncia, 1/144th of which is a single "carat", which literally translates into "carob seed".

So one pound, is 1728 carob seeds.

It's a completely antiquated system.

>>138547473
Murika uses the golden ratio of baby Jesus you limp wristed cum barrel.

>>138547432
Do you not know what fucking rounding is? He said that 4.6 was optimal, because the unit (friends) in question can only be expressed without decimals, he rounds up to 5, if the optimal ammount of friends was 4.1, then jumping up to 5 wouldn't make sense, so it's rounded down to 4.

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>>138547432
What's the optimal number of close friends? If you want them all to get together, probably around 4.6.

In 1970, Researchers Vidmar and Hackman looked for the optimal group size, the size that delivered the most satisfaction to group members. Here's the chart.

>>138547647
Count your fingers and thumbs.

You have 10.

>>138547657
Didn't the egyptians do just that, with pyramids and triangles and shit?

>>138547754
You could just have a whole friend instead of averaging everyone else's friends.

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>>138547315
Da fuck you talkin' about nigga?

>>138547657
That would have the advantages of both, but I'm afraid we're stuck with decimal for good.

>>138547031

It's only better for intuitive measurements if it is what you grew up measuring things in.

I can just as accurately describe a kilometre as a mile, a pint as a litre, and fuck me using cups is never intuitive in cooking.

>>138547473
Foot.
Yard.
Furlong (distance an ox can pull a plow before resting).
Acre (amount of land that can be plowed by an ox in a day).
Mile (a thousand paces).

>>138547828
Count your fingers. You have 8. Furlongs confirmed for resurgence.

>>138546521
Lel, I remember in uni, I was sitting in the back of the classroom at the end of my lecture to do my homework while another class started. It was a civil engineering class, something like a 400 level class, which is usually for final year students. And they were going over some fucking basic shit math like finding how much weight a column can support and I shit you not, it was something like multiplying the diameter by the height and cement constant or some shit like that. What a joke.

>>138548103
>picotones
Kek

>>138536339
If you don't know imperial intuitively that just means you are a literal retard and need remedial base 10 maths

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>>138532370
((They)) like play with numbers.

The metric system is not that playfull.

>>138547679
Because America bitch.

>>138532370
The real reason why...

BTU calulations
That's it. Joules suck ass

>>138532370
We don't use Imperial. We use american. different standards

>>138548115
French faggots almost went dozenal after their revolution but chickened out. Such a shame.

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>>138543960
You may use them just not very well. Pic related would never happen here. In the US the very best contractors rarely touch a tape measure and still build better shit than anything in Europe post 1965.

>>138548252
Chink identified

>>138547679
>Imperial is just an old-fashioned way of viewing the world.
You forgot to call me a racist.

>a meter is 3.370 inches longer than a yard
>a liter is 1.814 ounces bigger than a quart
>168cm sounds bigger than 5’6”
>15cm sounds longer than 6”
It’s almost as though the frogs had an inferiority complex

>but a kilometer is 0.62 miles
Poor Napoleon

>>138548644
> Using stalls
> Not knowing that the civilized world build each toilet as a separate room with a proper door.

>>138547647
Would be a good argument if we were using base 8 or base 12, but we don't. We use base 10, which makes your argument completely irrelevant. Besides, you have 10 fingers, that argument works both ways.

>>138548174

But these don't make sense unless you live in 1776.

"I'm travelling at 60000 paces an hour in my car!"

"If Jim has 12 oxen, how many acres can he plow? 100, because he's using his fucking tractor".

Too smart to use metric, sorry.
Metric is good for (((science))) and that's it.
When it comes to everyday things, such as ambient temperature, imperial is better in every way.

>>138544815
>It doesn't fit in real situations? Are you high little bong?
10cm penis man detected.

>>138548252
>And they were going over some fucking basic shit math like finding how much weight a column can support and I shit you not, it was something like multiplying the diameter by the height and cement constant or some shit like that. What a joke.

Euler buckling isn't 'basic math shit' my dude, but you don't really implement all the calculus every time you design a column.

They were likely going over design methodologies, axial vs bending moments or something Usually these are pre-determined constants and loads plugged into an equation.

THAT is the basic shit they were doing in preparation for industry. Where you have to sit in a design meeting and do that calculation of load and column size in your head when the architect asks you design questions.

it's not the bulk of what we do, it's a very very small bit.

>>138545019
Like days in the year?

>>138548582
Fuck. Napoleon would have exported that to Germany. All we got in this timeline is driving on the wrong side.

I don't fucking know man, JUST MAKE IT STOP

LET US USE METRIC ALREADY

>>138548995
That's relative though. If you grow up with Celsius for example, your point of reference is just different.

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Base 12 is superiour to Base 10, just because the rest of the world is mentally deficient doesn't mean we should stoop to their level...if anything we should seek to raise them up and enlighten them.

>>138548930
We can keep the base 10 number system and convert using 12, 16, 60, 360, etc. just fine.

Somehow scientists and mathematicians have no problem working with angles in degrees or time in seconds/hours/minutes. Neither of which are base 10, but their minds get blown by every other non-base 10 measurement?

>>138549601
Imperial isn't base 12.

>>138549616
I never claimed it did, fuckwit.

>>138547828
You asked what possible natural unit of measurement it could be based on and I gave you one. Sorry your country sucks and has bad teeth.

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>>138549601
Every base is base 10

>>138549133
>American doesn't know what a year is.

>>138549601
Base 12 would be better if we had a dozenal system not decimal.

>>138535582
you have 1 ton of paperclips, how many paperclips do you have?

>>138548860
Does the rest of the world really not put ice in drinks? Is everything just fucking lukewarm all the time?

>>138549716
>implying degrees are SI units
You usually use radians, not degrees.

>>138549929
I don't know. I don't work in a paperclip factory, but I know enough that the real number isn't going to be as simple as "Weight of raw material" / "Weight of a single paperclip"

>>138549023
Here's a metric example:

Each thrust with my 10 cm penis takes 0.1 seconds (0.1÷(602) hours).

10 cm = 0.0001 km

Therfore the average speed of my 10 cm penis is 0.0001/0.000027778 = 3.6 km/h

What is the average speed of your 1 in penis?

>>138544984
Way to come up with original bants, mongoloid.

>>138533201
Why don't we just use kiloseconds instead of minutes? 60seconds per minute seems stupid. Let's just define a day as 86.4 kiloseconds.

>>138549601

This is the problem. Imperial is only base 12 some of the time, others, it has utterly mad divisibles.

>Teaspoons in a tablespoon = 3
>Cups in a quart = 4
>Pints in quart = 2
>Quarts in a gallon = 4
>Ounces in a pound = 16
>Feet in a mile = 5,280
>Pounds in a ton = 2,000

If "imperial" meant standardised base 12, then fine, it kinda makes sense to continue. But to teach kids Imperial measurements and units in school is just crazy.

>>138534329

That's cool

>>138550387
>Completely ignoring furlongs.

>>138550167
Look at a protractor sometime.

>>138545668
>I find imperial obtuse though when you have to do math.
Perhaps it's you that's obtuse.

>1/3 of a yard
>Wicked stumped

>>138549716

No-one uses minutes or hours in scientific calculations. Everything is written as seconds, for example 1.086x10^6 seconds.

>>138550261
Way to come up with the good counter arguments, Pedro
Why should I care about some self-claimed internet "wiseman"?

>>138550171
If I have a paper clip that weighs 1.2 g and I sell them by quantity I know that 100 paperclips will weigh 0.12 kg.

If I sell them by weight I can easily determine that I need to pack 1000/1.2 = 833 paper clips in a 1 kg box.

>>138550562
I haven't used one since elementary school. The fact is, for anything related to physics, such as oscillating systems, either mechanical or electrical, you're always using radians. For complex exponentials, you use radians. Only exception is for complex numbers, where you usually use phasors for multiplication and divisions while using cartesian for addition and subtraction because its easier.

>>138550387
Imperial introduces a new unit when it makes sense to use IN REAL LIFE. Most recipes work well with scale of a cup for volume. Selling liquids in bulk works better in gallons as primary units. No, I don't want to use "decacups" of liquid.

>>138546227
That's because you probably have a degree in poetry or something. The point was plainly obvious to any truly numerate person.

>>138550302
Probably because dividing the day to 24 separate hours was made up +5000 years ago and we're still sticking to it, it works fine but I bet it'd sound less stupid to you if it wouldn't be almost as old as the invention of the wheel.

>>138532820
You're making science innecesarily complicated for youngs. Why not make it easier?

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>>138551098
Radians... is that a base 10 measurement system?

>>138550302
>implying that's not how a day is defined

the second is a unit of length.
circumference of earth / 3600*24

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>>138532820
pic related

>>138533585
I recently found out that 5''9 (or whatever notation they use) is not the same as 5.9 feet. I'm 27 years old. Yes, I'm not a smart man.

>>138546521
You are a retard because you actually thought I meant yo specifically.

We're talking about universal units of measure for ordinary people. Not your once-every-6-years waste-of-taxpayer-money project work.

>>138551151

Most recipes work brilliantly with the units "gram" and "litre". Here's a recipe from a US website:

http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/3-ingredient-peach-crisp-with-granola-topping

6 medium peaches (about 2 pounds)
1/4 cup (packed) light brown sugar
Pinch of kosher salt
2 cups granola (look for granola that holds together in clusters)
2 tablespoons olive oil
Special Equipment
A 2-quart (8x8") baking dish

That uses:

Pound
Cup
Pinch (arbitrary)
Tablespoon
Quart (Inch)

Whereas, in metric, you would use:

gram
litre

>>138551191

MSc in Chemistry actually.

>>138551456
It's not a measurement system, it's a unit. Feel free to measure 10 rad if you want.

>>138551456
its just degrees / 180

>>138551781
>2 tablespoons

>convert to liter

kek

>>138544183

We use mils for circuit boards. 1000's of an inch.

>>138546592
You mean "averaged" not "rounded."

Dumbass

>>138551456
Gradian is the closest a base 10 I know of
100 gradian = 90*

>>138551923
And you can measure 10 inches. Your point?

>>138551925
So not base 10, right?

>>138547132
3/12

>>138551996
>You mean "averaged" not "rounded."
>Dumbass
?¿

>>138551937

about 40mL. The difference is, I can accurately measure 40mL over, and over, and over, and tell anyone in the developed (non-US) world "40mL" and they can measure that accurate volume too.

Whereas you have 2 people with 2 different tablespoons and you're not going to get the same dessert.

>>138551781
>6 medium peaches (about 1 kg)
>70 ml (packed) light brown sugar
>550 ml granola (look for granola that holds together in clusters)
>60 ml olive oil
Special Equipment
>A 20cm x 20cm baking dish

>>138545252

Jesus don't be so stupid. Tolerance has nothing to do with units.

Do you really think we just manufacture shit without any tolerence at all? Err yeah Fred fuck it eighth of an inch.

>>138547473
Your 1" knob.

>>138551937
>what is ml or cc??

>>138552106
My point: you asked if a unit has a base, which does not make sense. You can have mrad, krad if you want.

>>138535942
>Unfortunately, humans have 10 fingers, so we're stuck with a base 10 number system
and there we have it, these people shill the metric system so fucking hard because math is too hard for them, they're stuck counting on their fucking fingers

>>138552096
I know what a base 10 system is. You obviously don't.

You got reked. Own up to it.