Antifa

Look up the definition of terrorism

Ask him if he supports [insert definition of terrorism] if it means stopping white nationalists from peaceably assembling.

If he says yes, congrats, he supports domestic terrorism.

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The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. Start with yourself. You must be competent, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Are you capable of raising children? Racial politics doesn't have to be the only factor of your life. And if you can't achieve such things for your self, then the chances are very high that you are not ready to be a political activist, either online or in real life. Because how can you make a difference for the race, for the lives of many, if you can't even make anything of your own, individual life?

Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet do not. Things aren't as good for us as they were for our parents. But billions of people in the third world would still kill to have the opportunities that you do right now. So take care of yourself! Work your ass off, everyday, to build a good life for you, and for your family. Spend your time wisely, and keep your real life priorities in order. Work hard, but also do fun and wholesome things with real people in real life. That's very important. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life

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>>138525906

I dislike spiders

>>138525672
If he thinks violence is justified against people he disagrees with then you're going about this in a completely retarded way. He has to understand that that thought process is absolutely unacceptable in a modern day western society, and that we have freedom of speech for a reason. There's literally no point in you showing him examples of antifa violence if they're justified in his mind anyway. He needs to understand the simple concept of free speech and freedom of assembly before you do anything else.

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>>138525933
Hahaha, fucking hell!

>>138525752
commies are so fucking stupid it hurts.

we need a civil war so bad

>>138525672
someone post the pic where the same guy is both an "alt-right" protester and then becomes antifa.

>>138525906
I'm not white, I'm Indian, but I completely agree with you no matter what race reads this.

>>138525752
Yes, there were retarded commies there, but implying guilt by association is the same retarded logic the left is using for calling all the people on the right nazis and white supremacists who were protesting the removal of the statues.

>>138526208
Freedom of speech isn't freedom from being challenged on that speech. Saying racist slogans while waving a swastika around is questionable at best and at worst inciting violence. I love how stormflakes employ this tactic in order to play the victim. Like you thought Normie's would be quiet and polite while you scream in their face how your lost cause is some sort of master race.

>>138527802

I'm no stormcuck. Unless you are literally saying "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW," there's no issue. If you need to be violent to get your point across, you are a piece of shit. I don't care who you are.

If it's a war of ideas that is called cheating.

>>138525884
This goes both ways and one a hell of a lot more on the right as opposed to the other. That includes the Charlottesville slam, the Riki light vigils the night before, abortion clinic bombings, Dylan Roof, Oklahoma City bombing, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

>>138528265

>hell of a lot more on the right

That's a fucking joke and you know it.

The difference is the left does it from a moralistic standpoint and manipulates the public. Oh they're against racism but they still have to kill someone to get their point across?

That's MUCH better!

By the way alt rightists would kill me.

>>138528239
So is there a problem with shouting "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US"?

And if someone did say something you consider problematic like "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW", then what is the right way to react?

>>138528463
Give us a few examples of left-wing terror.

>>138528613

No because that's not incitement to violence.

The right way to act is to not murder someone. Jesus Christ how psychotic do you have to be to ENTERTAIN that thought?

If black supremacists said something similar, guess what? I'd defend them all the same because this is America. We do not fucking commit terrorism to get a point across. If that's what you want to do, join ISIS.

>>138528713

G20 summit.

Hordes of people committing violence and property destruction.

But hey, it's all in the name of peace :)

Your friends sounds like an idiot and you're better off cutting all ties with him before he tries to hit you with FCK NZS bat.

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>>138525906
>A fellow /pol/ tarantulaposter

I like you.

>>138527802

The left thinks almost everything is racist.

>>138528941
Did any of these violent protesters utilize Isis style tactics to murder anyone?

antifa attack woman holding american flag
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/898939777453400065

>>138525672
You need to ask some probing questions to see how much his thinking has been poisoned by postmodernism.

>>138525672

NON AGGRESSION PRINCIPLE.

YES. IT'S THAT EASY.

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>>138525672
>not posting the original

>>138529201

Oh yes they did.

Violence is violence. Doesn't matter if someone dies. You do not fucking assault anyone just because they trigger you, you psycho leftist fuck.

Would you kill Trump if it meant stopping "Nazism?"

>>138528613
A fucking leaf
You should hide behind a meme flag

>>138529175
Thanks for proving my point and playing the victim.

>>138528713

Trying to get people fired just for being right wing, or being against multi-cult. Accepting refugees killed the indians and it has a lot of flaws that needs to be discussed.

>>138527802
>scream in their face

You're getting your sides mixed up again bud

>>138529336
All right so you have one case that you refuse to give specific details on. Care to elaborate or are you just role playing?

>>138525672
>He thinks they're good because they are fighting racists
What's wrong with racism?

>>138529512
Well damn it if it weren't all so confusing.

>>138529565

I don't have an itemized list for you. Anywhere antifa appears, people are assaulted or cause property damage.

Is that the kind of people you want in your community? Shoot first, ask questions and talk later? Is that what you want?

>>138528713

Assata shakur
Weatherman and other leftist terror rampant throughout the 70s
Dallas/Louisiana cop shootings last year
Etc etc

>>138528239
Only problem with a war of ideas means its still catering to the lowest common denominator in theory

>>138529565

And by the way, when antifa arrived in Boston, they ganged up and beat up the 3 "Nazis" they could find. The "Nazis" weren't Nazis at all. Boston antifa made it clear on their social media accounts that they hate Americans. You can look for yourself.

When that was done, did they go home?

No. They beat up cops.

>>138529809
I fail to see a worthy distinction from your description. I guess I'd prefer that in my community as opposed to the revs engine and guns into a crowd type. Neither are ideal, but this is the America we all voted for.

>>138530123

I call out right wing violence.

Let's see you swallow your pride, asshole. Will you man up and call out violence too?

>>138525672
>and he believes that shouting slogans is "verbal violence" that incites violence and can be responded to with violence.
If he doesn't realize that this can apply to Antifa itself, then he is sadly retarded and a lost cause.

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Charlottesville Deputy Mayor Wes Bellamy is an evil man.

Yet he is still in office for some reason.

>>138530105
You got some pics? Verifiable documents?

I don't think you guys realise how antifa have already won
The media have won, the corrupt judges and police chiefs have won.
Soon the very idea of trying to rally for speech will get you doxed and stabbed by the violent left while the police your taxes pay for watch and do nothing to help you but will arrest you the moment you try to defend your self and media labels you a criminal and the attacker a hero

Face it guys it's over

>>138530264
>look up to a vice mayor of an irrelevant city
I don't think so, Tim.

>>138530247
Sure but I'm not going to concede to false equivalencies.

>>138530421
Jokes on you, I have no life to ruin. Getting doxxed could only. Improve my life at this point. Neets are the future of this movement desu

>>138529100
>tarantulaposter
is this a thing? or do you guys just like tarantulas?

>>138525672
free speech doesn't protect you from being called an asshole by some other group... if they're winning, its because they're louder than you.

>>138530332

https://youtu.be/4G8QLT6tFWU

https://youtu.be/P1tsbWvqDdE

https://youtu.be/gVO0-aTW-bQ

Joey Salads has a bunch of stuff.

No right wing group does this shit. They don't have the corporate backing and sympathy that these terrorists have. Yes you have Dylan Roof going on a mass murder spree. Violence solves nothing.

Let's see you denounce it and not be an apologist. Otherwise you are a dangerous individual and I pity anyone who has to know you.

But I wouldn't kill you. That's the difference between us.

>>138530460

It's not a false equivalency.

It's quite simple--you're against political violence, or you support it.

Which is it? And don't weasel out of it. Be a fucking man.

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>>138530586
A bit of both

>>138525672
antifa engages in terror-speech, which is much worse than hate-speech. And it is justified to use hate-speech and violence to stop the spread of terror-speech.

>>138525672
i want to know why he thinks racism is bad

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>>138528713

>>138528713
>Give us a few examples of left-wing terror.
The original Black Panther Party

The Weather Undergroung

The Unabomber

May 19th Communist Organization

United Freedom Front

Students for a Democratic Society

Symbionese Liberation Army's crime spree and kidnapping of Patty Hearst

Black Lives Matter

And now Antifa.

>>138530935

This.

https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/

>>138530935
>Unabomber
>Left wing

Ted did more to fight left wing indoctrination than you ever will.

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>>138526599

>>138525672
This comic makes no sense. Is he saying Nazi's are the problem?

>>138530664
Oh god not the Islamic terrorism troll!

>CALL IT WHAT IT IS!

Nice concern trolling. And yeah, I don't think violence solves the dispute on free speech. Only calling antifa terrorists and not the kkk or the stormflakes terrorists is falling into the same trap that you're accusing me of, and that silence condones their actions. Let's remember, it's a swastika waving "unite the right" authoritarian who killed someone while they invoked the right to free speech. Your argument is getting circular.

>>138531090
>Ted did more to fight left wing indoctrination than you ever will.
Read his manifesto in full. He is complaining about the gutlessness and duplicity of the modern-left. He was MORE left than the left that existed during his generation. He was a pure anarchist.

>>138531383

Do you support political violence or not?

Would you kill your family if they supported Trump?

I don't think you would but you would have others do it because you're too pussy to answer a simple question.

>>138530935
Unabomber was /ourguy/ IMHOfam

>>138528713
In italy we had brigate rosse, in spain they had baske crazy secessionists.

>>138531383
>Only calling antifa terrorists and not the kkk or the stormflakes terrorists
The KKK hasn't committed an act of terror since the late 60s. So they fail the definition in the present given that they're under 24-hour surveillance from the FBI.

They fail the definition in the same way that the Black Panther's do. No activity for decades that fits the description.

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>>138525672

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antifa is fighting against this

>>138530787
I don't support political violence of any variety whatsoever. If you want to have a rally about free speech, it shouldn't exclude people for the kinds of speech they'd like to express. If that speech is inflammatory don't be surprised when shit gets rough and don't play the fucking victim card or the identity politics bs.

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>>138525672
>I'm trying to pill a left-wing normie on why Antifa is bad
Have him read two things

-The rise of the soviet union
-The rise of the communist sects within Germany following World War 1.
-The cultural revolution follow Chaman Mao's uprising.

Each time, the communists act exactly like Antifa is right now, and one of two things happen:

-There is a violent backlash which completely emboldens the 'wrong' sections of society to smash the black-clad menace in their society
-They take over and pic related happens.

Tell him that the enemy of your enemy isn't your friend, and then show him video after video of how their insanity; their complete lack of empathy for those they fight has turned them into monsters willing to hurt and kill anyone
And I mean anyone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE2QXxgBUDI

Not even for the political message, but for the pure sport of it. This is the end-goal when you're a radical: to brainwash your populace to feel no remorse for their actions, but also be plastic enough to change your stances and enemies at-will.

And tell him he's falling for it. He's becoming victim to the brainwashing that caused the Nazi party and the Communist revolutions across the world that killed millions of people.

If he wants more info, he can read up on how China's communist revolution is almost a mirror of what is happening here in America

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/3948-commentary-6-on-how-the-chinese-communist-party-destroyed-traditional-culture/full/

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Calle

>>138531596
>Unabomber was /ourguy/ IMHOfam
A man can be correct in his identification and analysis of a problem, but still be completely fucking wrong about how best to fix same problem.

He had insights, but his plans were retarded.

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>>138525933

>>138532027
>two things
Great, I added that third thing at the last minute but forgot to change that. Have him read three things.

>>138531884

>don't be surprised

You have sympathies for those kinds of people. You are insincere.

I shouldn't have to be surprised because civilized people don't resort to violence.

>>138531547
So what, my family voted Trump. That was their choice. We didn't really have any real good options, so they went with the party they've been voting for my entire life. Does that mean I want them dead? No, but I don't see what Trump is really going to do about it.

>>138526199
Shit that's good, ima steal it for a sec

>>138529277
>the left can't meme

>>138532463
I tried to meme once, but then my mom yelled at me on facebook for using hate symbols like pepe.

>>138525906
The spider is named P.Metallica \m/

>>138532241

Right, because civilised people brandish guns at a peaceful gathering from out of state to protest a decision made by popular vote in the local municipality. Admit it, you harbor sympathies for right wing terrorism.

>>138527802
>>138528265
>>138528613
>>138530880
If you think there is any circumstance that justifies terrorism, guess what, you are a terrorist, terrorist collaborator, or terrorist sympathizer in your heart.

Political violence is terrorism. It always has been. It always will be. It doesn't matter what side they are on. They must not be tolerated.

Terrorists only true beliefs are that they are right and that anything that advances their goal is justified. Allow terrorism and you condemn your society to warlordism, because only the strongest side will win and vae victus.

>>138529565
Good grief, stop being such a lazy cunt. It took me a couple of minutes to look up a few government reports detailing terrorist attacks across the world and their perpetrators.
The Europol one states left wing terrorism is the second fastest growing source (Islam is first).
Nationalist/Separatist terror only scores high because of one source accounting for 80% of the attacks (Irish Republicans).

>>138531213
I never noticed that this was made from skateboards.... it doesn't even look like they are held together.

>>138532783
I don't know why you think I am an advocate for terrorism. Well I guess you're going to keep pressing the issue even though I've answered you're question succinctly and conclusively.

>>138532846
Good catch. It's obviously the same shield as the one in the trash bag

i think theres two main things that makes antifa's attempt to justify violence wrong:

>they are not cops or judges. they arent qualified to take justice into their own hands. their violence is illegal. if there is someone doing something illegal (which the people antifa are protesting typically arent, hate speech is legal), then they can call the cops.

>antifa is extremely loose with their definition of nazi. they misrepresent people's stances in order to try to justify violence against anyone that disagrees with them. this also ties into the first point. this is why we dont let random citizens take justice into their own hands because they are typically too biased and stupid to make a fair judgement

>>138530586
Well, I mean... if they're posting tarantulas, they obviously like them, right?

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>>138525672
>>138532027
Also, a really interesting read is to compare the indoctrination of Antifa and compare it to the cults of old. Antifa is a cult of tolerance, and you're never tolerant enough to be accepted into the cult. Which has resulted in the violence we see today: cultists trying to prove that they're more loyal to the cause than those around them and thus take up positions of leadership within their fledgling hierarchy.

https://carm.org/signs-practices-of-a-cult

>Increased submission to the leadership is rewarded with additional responsibilities and/or roles, and/or praises, increasing the importance of the person within the group.
>Their group is the only true religious(political) system, or one of the few true remnants of God's(anti-racist) people.
>Us against them mentality. Therefore, when someone (inside or outside of the group) corrects the group in doctrine and/or behavior, it is interpreted as persecution, which then is interpreted as validation.
Vid related: This guy came in with Antifa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K5FR6fJyks
>Control of members' actions and thinking through repeated indoctrination and/or threats of loss of salvation
This is basically their slogan with repeating that everyone is a Nazi in a nutshell: to embolden its members that they are the just ones and that no one inside of their group can be part of their hegemony.

This combined with the history lesson on the Nazis and the Bolsheviks should lay a pretty hefty groundwork for your friend to start questioning not just the system, but the narrative the media is spinning around their alt-left heroes who want to give him the bullet, too.

>>138531424
this.
Ted is in no way right wing.
He talked about the ship of fools, which is a metaphore for capitalism and modern alienation

>>138532715
You talkin' about the Oath Keepers? AFAIK, they've never committed an act of violence, never used their guns, and never been arrested.

They have a tendency to prevent violence because violent right-wingers don't have an excuse to bring weapons when the Oath Keepers are there and violent left-wingers don't want to get shot.

I don't know a whole lot about them, though. I don't think they espouse any actual political positions except muh Constitution.

>>138532817
What are you on about. Well, in the US, the most common form of terrorism is of the right wing variety.. but I really think that misses the mark. All forms of terrorism are evil and if you condemn one groups terrorism and are silent about another, passively condoning it, you are no better than the terrorists yourself.

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>>138525933

Never fails to warm my heart.

>>138533095
This are two interesting points, if there IS anything to oppose, they would do society a favor by staying home and letting the cops handle it and not going out into the streets to throw rocks and pissbottles at police officers.
The same police officers who would gladly crack some Nazi skulls open if they stepped out of line.

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>>138532414

>>138528713
Niggers and the no go areas all over the country.

>>138532946
>I don't know why you think I am an advocate for terrorism.
See
>Saying [things I don't like is]...inciting violence.

Gee, you have a good reason for punching "nazis" in the face, guess that means it doesn't qualify as violence. Vigilantes are just terrorists who think they are the good guys, kind of like every terrorist ever.

Leave countering protests to the police.

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>>138533014
>>138532846
>>138531213

alt-right false flag spotted by antifa kek what a bunch of losers.
also now it's a two way doxxing championship and you are all turning into cops thanks to Zuckerberg.

>>138533333
Quints have spoken. Leave it to the cops. Don't escalate. Accept that you are not authorized to be violent to fucking anyone.

>>138532482
that's false, Trump voters are NOT the proletariat, this is a false narrative and if you look at actual votes you will be really disappointed

>>138533461
The counter protesters have a first amendment right to be there. Just like the assholes who show up with guns have a right to have things guns. Stop playing the victim when you're throwing out so much bait.

>>138533310
I wasn't expressing any partisan view on terrorism, I don't support violence for political gain. I was trying to point out that political violence is common across the spectrum but left wing violence is increasing rapidly.
There seems to be a weird smoke and mirrors game going on in a lot of the media in the way all of this violence is being portrayed and the language/images being used to describe it.

>>138532409
Can you post the whole article, please? THat would be awesome.

>>138534220
Sorry senpai. On mobile and it's an image I saved. I'll delete it if it's fake

>>138533310
>the most common form of terrorism is of the right wing variety

Source? How far back do you have look at data to make that claim stick?

>>138533810
Antifa tried to burn my hometown down on May Day.

Antifa smashed car dealerships, clothing stores, random people's cars, and random people's heads during the #NotMyPresident riots.

The only reason I'm not the victim is I was smart enough to stay away from downtown.

The First Amendment, like all the rights in the Constitution, is not unlimited. It stops when your fist hits someones face. Counter-protestors have no right to violence, no right to vigilantism, and no right to be fucking fascist blackshirts.

>>138534358
I sure hope it isn't. I'll go look around and see what I can find. That would be a good share for fagbook and twatter.

>>138525672
While I agree, why are Ben Garrison's comics so hamfisted and shitty.

>>138534220
The story is real, but the City of Charlottesville denies it and says the cop was lying.

However, the police and national guard were both ordered to take no action until ordered to do so. The Mayor and the Governor have been criticized for waiting just over an hour after the violence started.

I'm still waiting on the report of any right-wing protester committing violence other than the nutjob in the car.

>>138533126
What about when they post dicks?

>>138529277
>you have to write what everything represents because your comics are so shitty
Ben Garrison is a hack.

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We should be welcoming these commies imbeciles. They are our ticket to power.

>>138534975
Didn't the car have black tinted windows and aTrump/pence sticker on the rear? That whole scenario is just odd to me.

>>138525989
Get paid pupper!

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>>138525672
https://twitter.com/TrumInTheNorth/status/899793901724336130

>>138536209
>>138531882
This is a pic of the car.

Some /pol/lacks have argued that he hit the brakes and didn't slam into the crowd until after an Antifa terrorist hit his bumper with a bat. But there's also video of him driving at them pretty damn fast from a block away and I'm not going to defend what looks and smells like terrorism. The best case scenario is he "only" wanted to intimidate the Antifa crowd by threatening them with violence then used violence.

I can't say enough, vigilantism is just a subtype of terrorism. The Klan said they were vigilantes when they lynched people. Antifa says they're vigilantes when they beat people. Fucking Al Qaeda said they were vigilantes when they slammed passenger jets into the WTC towers.

>>138533333
yup. they can also spend their time trying to change the laws to fit their beliefs. then the police can enforce those laws.

but they dont care about getting shit done. they just want to release their anger on someone.

>>138536911
I think even bringing up the car at this point will be a lost cause. Unless you have solid evidence showing a false flag or other fuckery you will already lose in the court of opinion

>>138535999
This is why we shouldn't try to erase history. Extremists will do whatever it takes to secure power. The ones that win are just the ones with the most effective tactics.

History empowers us to escape despair cycles.

>>138534649
Source, citation. And no argument on the extent of the first amendment. But it's not a tit for tat. I saw pictures of Nazi wannabes beating the shot out a black kid in Charlottesville. Don't just call out the one group because it hurt your fefes.

>>138534445
The dod

>>138537740
source, citation please

>>138537249
Yeah, I'm not defending the guy. He murdered people with his car. I really don't give a shit whether he planned to do it or whether it was a spur of the moment decision. I don't care if he felt unsafe and panicked, he never should have placed himself in that situation. He clearly was not just trying to go down a road. He was clearly not a victim. He committed terrorism.

>>138537740
>Don't just call out the one group because it hurt your fefes.

See
>>138536911
>>138534975
>>138533569
>>138532783
But truth is inconvenient for Antifa terrorism scum. This is why I am so fucking scared of them. They beat people for looking at them funny. They smash businesses for existing in a supposedly liberal town. They attack fucking inanimate objects for being "provocative."

I need police protection from people like you. I need police protection from people like Richard Spencer.

We all need police protection from terrorists.

>>138533310
>the most common form of terrorism is of the right wing variety
Only if you are selectively referring to the 1990s to early 2000s.

Otherwise that's completely untrue.

>>138527802
yeah violence is not a surprising result. but, it's still illegal and unjustified

>>138538016
Do a quick YouTube search for Deandre Harris.

>>138538764
It was the highest ranked existential threat to citizens in a dod terrorism report from this spring.

>>138539189
Holy shit.
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlottesville-deandre-harris-black-protester-white-supremacists-beat-metal-poles-neo-nazis-a7894916.html

This is the stuff you should be talking about instead of making excuses for Antifa.

>>138539679
Archived it for you https://unvis.it/independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlottesville-deandre-harris-black-protester-white-supremacists-beat-metal-poles-neo-nazis-a7894916.html

>>138539746
What's wrong with the Independent, based nordbro?

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>>138537740
there was an interview on the news with ANTIFA leader. she said that hate speech is equivalent of physical violence.

now i don't know if you agree with her, but that's unlawful either way
how does it feel supporting a group of anarchist shitstains that risk their lives in the name of nothing?

>>138530878
Wtf I love tarantulas now.

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>>138539556
Your nigger-loving ass won't be spared cuck. Can't wait to see your faggot ass swinging from a tree. Just get the fuck out of our way on the day of the rope.

>>138539679
this guy got off easy compared to the mentally disabled white guy that was tortured by 4 black supremacists

>>138539679
Agreed, but I'm not and have never made excuses or apologies for antifa. I'm not antifa, and don't get into the identity politics bit. Just not my bag.
>>138539891
No, I don't agree that verbal violence is the same as physical. The problem with verbal violence is when it is used to incite physical violence. It's really a slippery slope argument from there.

>>138526063
Is this loss?

>>138538764
that sounds like the kind of factoid that sounds bad for whites but then "Islamism" is classified as right wing

>>138541152
What day is that going to be stormflake? All the concern trolls in this thread about free speech and this anons ruins it for everyone by resorting to threatening violence. Good on you, thanks for not disappointing me.

>>138525672
See how he feels about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to9aWN_kNQU

>>138525672

You won't redpill him.

Hide your powerlevel and wait for his life circumstances, like maybe a run in with a minority, to put him on a "warm" list, then redpill him.

>>138533142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

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>>138529277

checked

Also the left's memes aren't really funny

It's like watching the WNBA

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>>138533769

Please Mr. Italian, please tell me about all those white working class that voted for Hillary

Go on, I'll wait

>>138532299
Shouldn't the concern be niggers shooting the sun when it goes black?

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>>138528713
>left-wing terror

>>138532310
I notice they didnt include a picture covering the base when its erected, could it that they fucked up and tipped it over when they were trying to erect it?

>>138525933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tBqdKGiqnI

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>>138529277
Kek, thanks. Don't know why people edit out the labels.