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Words can not describe the hatered I have toward this symbol.

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Words can not describe the hatered I have toward this symbol. It's literally Satan incarnate. I swear to the man upstairs when I get my chance in the next American civil war to kill as many of these evil human beings as possible I will take that chance and kill every last one of them. How many of you feel the same way?
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>>138518937
Do you even have commies in US? Antifa and other scum look like socialists. I also hate the red thrash. 2 people of my family were shot dead from them.
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“Contrary to what so many good people – out of sheer terror of ‘Communism’ – think, Capitalism is not ‘free enterprise,’ an incentive for success, ‘a chance for all.’ Capitalism is trusts, speculation, parasitical usury. Capitalism is J. P. Morgan, Rothschild’s bank, ripping apart the nations like maddened swine. Capitalism is the Jewish frying pan in which culture is rendered down to the grease of money. Following it, as the night to day, is the thrice hotter Jewish fire of ‘Communism.'” William Striker
Amongst themselves, the Jews are quite candid about their sympathy for and involvement in Bolshevism.

On 4 April 1919 the Jewish Chronicle: “There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism.”
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Child Prostitution in Weimar Republic

British historian Sir Arthur Bryant describes throngs of child prostitutes outside the doors of the great Berlin hotels and restaurants. He adds: “Most of them—the night clubs and vice resorts—were owned and managed by Jews. And it was the Jews among the promoters of this trade who were remembered in after years.”

Sir Arthur Bryant, Unfinished Victory (1940), pp. 144-145

https://zaidpub.com/2013/09/26/the-sexual-decadence-of-weimar-germany-by-lasha-darkmoon/
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>>138520042
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>>138520241
Of course he used the term holocaust.
It's a Jewish term meaning "burnt offering."
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>>138518937
Reported to the FBI. Enjoy jail you bigot
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>>138518937
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>>138518937
> It's literally Satan incarnate.
>americaneducation.jpg
It literally isn't
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>>138518937
I'm the same. I shitpost a lot, but honestly have very little hate in my heart for anyone.

Except commies. I literally want to gas them all.

I would never do it, because I don't want to throw my life away and they're not worth my energy. But it is without any edgy contrarianism that I say I smiled when Breivik did what he did.
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>>138518937
>Communist
>Human
Pick one
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>>138518937
>Words can not describe the hatered I have toward this symbol.

That says a hell of a lot more about you than it does the symbol. Plus you can't spell.
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>>138518937
>I swear to the man upstairs when I get my chance in the next American civil war to kill as many of these evil human beings as possible

pssst!

The Soviet Union collapses in the late 80's AND that was in Russia.

Feel free to start enjoying your life now. You're welcome.
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>>138518937

Well communism has become the modern day religion, lets take a look.

>Chanting (against whites, against capitalism, against the rich)
>Strict adherence to dogma
>Us vs Them
>Anyone who is not us is an enemy
>Different sects (feminism, 3rd worldism, marxism, leninism, trotskys, ancom, socialist, etc)
>Need to spread globally through spreading the good word
>Promise of wealth
>Heaven (utopia)
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>>138521208
number of communists in the world

106.
have it 'em billy bob!
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>>138518937
Don't go to Vietnam then, it's fucking everywhere.
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>>138518937

What about this symbol?
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>>138518937
I wear a hat with the USSR flag on it. I love triggering the cucks that will never say a word to me about it. especially on campus among the few Identity Evropa members.
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>>138519934
>>138520042
>>138520241
How about you try to present some real argument against communism instead of Goebbels style lies.

>Protip: you can't
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FUCK Communism. All they want is to destroy western culture through cultural marxism

They act like we are dumb "b-but it wasn't real communism!) but we aren't
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>>138520740
Ive never seen this actually debated by a communist, they know they cant
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>>138521306
you're retarded
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>>138521454
Cultural marxism is literally a Nazi propaganda (Cultural Bolshevism), that they used to push pseudoscience and purge scientific and artistic circles. Anyone who uses this in this context is an uneducated borderline retard.
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Communism is the most evil ideology ever conceived.
It is no wonder commies are teaming up with another evil ideology to combat the good.
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>>138518937
I am afraid, there are a bit too much communists for you - and there will always be more. You will be lucky if you manage to trade one to one, but in the end, it will all be for naught.
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>>138518937
I wouldn't mind if they were just doing their stuff in their corner but yeah they're the worst morons
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>>138521543
>you're retarded
looks like you don't have a challenge left.
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>>138521449
Communism has been so thoroughly debunked both in theory and in practice, but it doesn't matter to people like you. I won't waste my breath.

Here's one simple argument against communism: "you're not getting my money". :^)
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Commies have no role on this planet. Their criminal system had its run and failed miserably wherever it was employed. Anyone who still believes in it needs to be committed...
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>>138519934
Shit man
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>>138521041
* Hatred ;)
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>>138521445
Gey
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>>138521884
>Communism has been so thoroughly debunked both in theory and in practice, but it doesn't matter to people like you. I won't waste my breath.
That's why billions of people lived and thrived under communism, unlike your yellow/black autism.
>you're not getting my money
Did you hear the ancient communist tale... about the people that were called kulacks?
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>>138522220
Define "thrive."
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>>138520241
What's interesting about this quote from Marx was that it was from a piece he wrote in Poland, which has some anti-Semitic stuff when taken out of context. However, when you use the quotes in context, and understand that Poland had huge censoring laws against anything not anti-Semitic, you understand that Marx doesn't hate jews lol.
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>>138521454

They do it because the west and white men refuse to be communist. Think about it, the depressions before the Great Depression, the Great Depression itself, the cultural revolution, Vietnam, 9/11, Bush administration, the Great Recession. None of these made the US and Europe communist. It has in fact gotten so bad for the communists that China and Vietnam are slave labor exclusively for western capitalism. Communists are extremely resentful of whites and the west because they don't want to be part of the utopia. Communism can't work, every where it has been implemented has been mostly non-white and has failed spectacularly. Blacks are too dumb to be communists, they devolve into tribal warfare. Latins are too corrupt and lazy to be communists. Asian commies have cucked out to the west.
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>>138522220
>billions of people lived and thrived under communism
Surely you can't be this retarded.. Just.. stop talking. You're embarrassing us both.
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>>138521449
>real argument
Why bother wasting time studying a failed ideology? Reading Marx is about as useful as learning how to make whale oil lamps. Do something productive instead
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>>138518937

Agreed, communism and facism are awful. Both should be destroyed from this planet.
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>>138521884
You haven't posted any argument that refutes anything about communism. You're just making assertions, just like everyone else on this board, that have no evidence tied to them. That doesn't get you anywhere.
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>>138522379
Have these "people" considered that any ideology that requires involuntary expansion and participation is inherently malicious?
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>>138522681
>equating communism and fascism
whew lad

>>138522670
Do you have an economic theory that makes the same predictions as Marx's Labor Theory of Value? If so, what is it?
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>>138522220
>thrive

AAAAAAAAA

HAAAAAAAA

Countries like China didn't begin to thrive and gets hundreds of millions out of poverty until it switched to a capitalist economy.
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>>138522891
Labor Theory of Value literally the most debunked part of the whole thing, come on man read ONE refutation of left wing economics, literally pick any of the big ones and you'll see this idea dunked on
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Reminder that the us workers party (communist party) only got 400 votes total


Communism is fucking dead lmfaoooo
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>>138522738
Commies aren't human. Your image proves this. Fuck that scum.
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>>138522920

China still has hundreds of millions in poverty. In China you are not born a commie, you have to join the party. Majority of the country is 3rd world and people are trying to become slaves to feed themselves.
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>>138518937
t. good shabbos-goy.
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>>138523358
Every single time I see someone try to refute Marx's LTV they almost always equivocate on the term value. If you could point me to a refutation of the LTV that does not equivocate on value, I would really like to read it.
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>>138523513
I never said they don't longer have poverty retard. Contrast it with the situation under Mao though. They have slashed poverty since then and half and still see the fastest decline in poverty rates every year.

http://www.cn.undp.org/content/china/en/home/ourwork/povertyreduction/overview.html
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>>138519816
Antifa are the red guard. They even say it on their websites.
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>>138523788
over half*
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>>138522710
I literally have a double master in economics and mathematics. I could write a book about why you're wrong.

In fact I have argued you morons time and time again on these points, but like I said before, it's futile. You will carry on believing your delusional fantasies because at the core, the feeling of utopia makes you happy. And feeling happy always wins over math with you people.
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>>138522220
>thrived
Lefty/pol/ pls go and stay go
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>>138522891
>>138523358
I study and work in finance. Your LTV definitions for value are plain retarded. The efficient market hypothesis underpins modern financial and commodity markets. When information is perfectly and freely available to all market participants, price = value. That's it.

Now its not to say information is ever perfectly and freely available. Or that estimates are never wrong and that human emotions don't come into play.

Tell me commie, how many finance books have you read? Or do you just dismiss it all as bourgeoisie capitalist propaganda?
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"Yeah but it was not real communism"

TFW you unintentionally admit communism is so bad that it can't take off.

TFW when you wonder why the government isn't sharing everything equally like they said they would
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>>138524117
>I literally have a double master in economics and mathematics. I could write a book about why you're wrong.
>In fact I have argued you morons time and time again on these points, but like I said before, it's futile. You will carry on believing your delusional fantasies because at the core, the feeling of utopia makes you happy. And feeling happy always wins over math with you people.

Come on, really? For someone with a double masters in economics and mathematics, I really expected more. All I asked was a source that proved the theory incorrect that didn't equivocate on value. This is the same scrutiny that every other scientific theory is held up to. Am I to assume that you can't provide that or that you're just unwilling to for some reason?

Of course, we can just assume you really have those masters degrees and that you really could write a book on why the LTV is wrong.

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>>138524629
>I study and work in finance. Your LTV definitions for value are plain retarded.
Now, you see, herein lies the problem. You don't like definition of what Marx calls "value." Do you understand what the LTV is meant to explain? Do you know what it predicts as a scientific theory? Based on this
>The efficient market hypothesis underpins modern financial and commodity markets
I have to assume you don't know the answers to those question. Since you don't know the answers to those questions, you have no basis for refuting the theory.
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>>138523788
don't worry they'll go right back into poverty as soon as Donald trump is done
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>>138518937
Why so much butthurt?

I remember a little last year or two live under pre-communism - it was socialism as I know, It was quite nice - no hatred, no crimes, nothing to crave about, all what left is to just go to work and after make babies.
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>>138518937

OP, thats the correct attitude man !

Cant wait for civil war, when we remove that DISEASE from the face of the planet !

Those diseases are the biggest massmurderer sect that the face of the earth ever had to endure, right on par with islam.

Time to erradicate that disease...
And everybody who has ever had contact with it....
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>>138525216
The birth rate in the Soviet Union was annihilation levels, the abortion rate was higher.
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>>138525147
Answer my questions first commie. Do you know anything about modern finance or do you dismiss it all as bourgeoise propaganda?
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>>138526864
I don't know about the rates, mb you right because there were no religion, but with the exception of Stalin's atrocities it was so not bad to common ppl to live under it. It was doomed since the beginning but it wasn't so evil as it described.
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>>138518937
The symbol itself is kinda cool
Everything else about the ideology is complete satanic trash
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>>138527182
I think you're misunderstanding the dialectic here. You came here with a claim. Your claim was that my (Marx's) definitions (definition) for value is "plain retarded." Another assertion of yours is
>When information is perfectly and freely available to all market participants, price = value. That's it.
Now, that assertion equivocates on value and does NOT object the theory.

The fact is this: You are either intentionally equivocating on value, which is intellectually dishonest and does not disprove the theory that
gets disproved like any other scientific theory,

OR, you are unintentionally equivocating on value, which means you don't know the theory at all, which is still dishonest. You don't know what the LTV is meant to explain nor what it predicts. Therefore, any argument you have against the LTV is irrelevant because you are not using the term value the way Marx is using the term value.
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>>138521449
I would literally murder you in real life.

Secular Socialism is a Jewish trap, in which Workers bring revenue into the bottom of the pyramid expecting adequate rations to come back out of it. But sitting at the top of rhe pyramid are your secular gods, Rosenberg and Goldstein. And they hoard your money and starve you because you are the biggeat Judas Cow of them all.
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>>138518937
I've stopped watching porn because it doesn't do it for me anymore. Now I just think of the prospect of killing commies and that makes me cum buckets.
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>>138527601
Yes it was.
Do not forget the crimes done to your country, and do not excuse the excuses pulled by useful idiots and the usual suspects.
Your nation was raped by people who were not Russian, had no respect for Russia and took great joy in humiliating Russia.
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>>138528217
[citation needed]
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>>138518937
Says the guy that has the flag that is known for mass genocide of american Indians non stop wars for profit and greed.
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>>138528365
>dons Soviet Flag of the mid 20th century
>ask someome to explain it to him
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>>138527985
in a religious society, there still is a top of the pyramid.....belief in god is irrelevant.
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>>138528365
[bullet needed]
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>>138528404
The Indians were savages who killed and scalped each other and warred againsr Mexicans.


WW1, WW2, Iraq and Afghanistan are confirmed Jewish ZOG projects. But I think America showed her true colors defying the ZOG and trying to stop reds ij Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, etc
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>>138528525
>dons Nazi flag of mid 20th century
>period

You should go outside before you cease to comprehend any of your material conditions entirely.

>>138528672
[edgy]
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>>138528217
I don't deny it and I have no pity to those who killed our Emperor and his family, just wanted to express my memories from childhood
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>>138528548
Yeah, Hitler had a 99% approval rating and pulled Germany out of the hellhole (((Weimar)))) Republic Jews put them through.

This video made me tear up the first time i saw it. #nohomo

Hitler versus Rothschild
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7F3OYhp4Q


Child Prostitution in Weimar Republic

British historian Sir Arthur Bryant describes throngs of child prostitutes outside the doors of the great Berlin hotels and restaurants. He adds: “Most of them—the night clubs and vice resorts—were owned and managed by Jews. And it was the Jews among the promoters of this trade who were remembered in after years.”

Sir Arthur Bryant, Unfinished Victory (1940), pp. 144-145

https://zaidpub.com/2013/09/26/the-sexual-decadence-of-weimar-germany-by-lasha-darkmoon/
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>>138527985
Solzhenitsyn is a Cold War propaganda hack, all of his accusations are made up. It is probably a step up from a literal Goebbels propaganda, but still pretty far from a thing called fact.

The USSR elite got and insanely lesser benefit than American or post-Communist Russian porky.

Noone even cared about Stalin's purges if he wasn't some sort of boss or a shitty artist of some sort.
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>>138528782
Iraq and Afghanistan both results of republican politics. Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos America actually lost all 3 of these conflicts.
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>>138528802
You accuse me of edge, then you excuse everything that happened in the 20th Century as a blip that either was exaggerated, didn't happen or wasn't real Communism.
I could easily, but there is no point citating to a unironic Communist, because your ideology would have you dismiss any evidence given to convince you of the multiple INTENTIONAL famines and genocides, state oppression and Organs of terror, as an elaborate hoax from piggie to pull the wool over your eyes. You think yourself open-minded but you already have your conclusion and you will not be swayed from it.
THIS TIME FOR SURE. THIS TIME FOR SURE. THIS TIME FOR SURE. A HUNDRED MILLION MORE. BECAUSE THIS TIME FOR SURE.
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>>138528802
You are literally retarded. Out of love for you: please redpill yourself on the Holocaust and "6 muhlion Jews". Once that happens, the rest is a house of cards.

Please watch;
https://youtu.be/-rhGMCYWqKI
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>>138529330
>INTENTIONAL famines and genocides
Sorry, sweetie, the flag you are looking for is the one with the swastika.
>state oppression and Organs of terror
Same as any state, but for the right reason
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>>138529110
>changing your flag like we can't see your ID
WRONG AGAIN COMMIE
In some sick ways I actually want you to succeed, if only to know you will be devoured by the beast you created again.
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>>138518937
I agree, my great-grandfather killed them in 1917, and my grandpa in 1941-1944

I will do my best to honor their work
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>>138529252
What the shit...

You must believe the official 9/11 story.

And it's hard to win conflicts in southeast asia when your enemy (reds) are also back home in America monopolizing media, Hollywood, industry, government and is oechestrating public disorder. I fucking hate Commie Jew Overlords and feel disgust at their unironic followers.
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>>138529626
The Ukrainians would slit your neck for suck cheek.
Though the State Troopers on a Quota for arrests might get to you first, I'm sure they'll be happy to hear you agree it was for the right reason.
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>>138529252
>Iraq and Afghanistan both results of republican politics.
And if we had followed Democrat politics, we would have invaded Syria and deposed Assad, with a similar outcome. Those conflicts are better described as neo-conservative politics.
>Korea
How the fuck do you consider successfully driving the Norks out of South Korea and stopping their annexation of the South a "defeat?"
>Vietnam
We only "lost" because a certain political ideology painted the war in such a dark light that people got tired of it.
>Cambodia
Not really a war when all we did is gather intelligence and bomb the shit out of the country at the behest of its leader.
>Laos
see above, plus training an armed force
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>>138518937
It's funny, I feel the same way about you!
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>>138529330
I don't believe I said any of that. I merely asked for the source of the information.

>>138529374
>Equating National Socialism with Socialism
>Using scripture as logical evidence
I'm doubting but I can sit through sub-40min of video. Let you know what I think after I'm done.
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>>138529626
>>INTENTIONAL famines and genocides
Other than Ukraine, you might have a point on the famines. They were unintentionally created as a result of following a meme economical theory.
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>>138529110
What a tool. He said 66 million were killed by Bolshevik Jews.

66 million you stupid fuck.

Even if he was 90% wrong thats still more outrageous than 6 million the Jews cant stfu about. This was all for-ordained, friend. Every Soviet Christian killed had their existinf bank account, assets, and/or position of power seized. By the time Stalin "purged" the scapegoat Bolshevik Jews, the major players had succeeded in Christian Genocide and amassing a fortune.

http://balder.org/judea/Six-Million-140-Occurrences-Of-The-Word-Holocaust-And-The-Number-6,000,000-Before-The-Nuremberg-Trials-Began.php
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>>138519934
>>138520042
>>138520241
>swastika
>"following Jesus Christ"
The Nazis murdered Christians.
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>>138530489
Jews murdered Christians, Nazis innocent.
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>>138530489
...are you this stupid?

https://youtu.be/lD0uHJwv4d4
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>>138530152
>Holodomor
>Red Terror
>Kulak resettlement
>The Great Purge
>Katyn
>the NKVD in general
>Campaign to Suppress Counterrevolutionaries
>Great Leap Forward
>Cultural Revolution
>North Korea
>Vietnam
>Cambodia
>Ethiopia
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>>138529781
9/11 was a terrorist attack that bush and his people knew was going to happen just not when. Hell bin laden's dad was here in America talking to the president warning him his kid was up to something the day it happened. They where allowed to go back even during the no fly time look it up.
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>>138530821
Those are assertions, not sources of evidences. I'm not saying some/all of those things didn't happen, even those most of those are just countries or political groups rather than events, I'm just asking for sources of evidence.
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>>138530833
Idk man. I think it's worse.

Some Jew bought the towers then took out a multi-million dollar insurance policy on it right before it collapsed. I believe the same Jew is on camera, no denial, saying "Pull It" as a signal to demolish WTC-7. Which implies WTC-7 had demo charges the whole time?

Dude it's huge.
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>>138530755
Hitler was a nut and believed in mysticism. I don't care about your quote.
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>>138531127
but,but,but
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>>138518937
Communism would be a lot more enticing if it weren't for the fact that every Communist I've ever met was a vile, bitter, resentful failure at life

Oh and the widespread starvation and labor camps and abhorrent living conditions and complete oppression of the population and all that other stuff too
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>>138531127
Disgusting bro. YouTube each one of those if you dont like reading. Honestly your best bet it guys with YouTube names like SSForever11. There are a LOT of (((damage control))) videos and articles.

On another note, explain this shit:
www.TheZOG.info/list-summaries
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>>138530755
Hitler didn't personally like Christianity, but recognized that the natsoc movement was partly fueled by the religion, so he advocated it in public.
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>>138518937
The greatest mistake the West ever made was allowing this fucking shitstain of an ideology to be openly endorsed or even spoken about as anything other than "those fucking Reds". Seriously, can we get Robo McCarthy built or some shit?
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>>138518937
honeypot
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>>138531175
Plug ears and cry. Good strategy.

>My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. ...Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. ...
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>>138529888
>The Ukrainians would slit your neck for suck cheek.
Lol you know nothing. Statistically speaking, 54% of Ukrainians favour and 23% disfavour the USSR. I was there quite alot of times, and we Slavs don't tend to sperg out like Anglofags when someone has a different opinion than our own.
>>138530166
All famines in communist countries were result of extreme backwardness of the country, caused by the previous government. It was promptly fixed, so no more than one famine happened.
>>138530208
Literally who? Literally based on what? He was a traitor who defected to the enemy of Russia, he spewed lies in front of Amrericans and called for aggressive nuclear strike against the Soviet Union.
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>>138518937
Indeed, Hans Hermann Hoppe was more right than he thought.
A society needs a common basis in order to avoid collapse, therefore those who have an essential disagreement with its basis have to be at least isolated, or physically removed.
For an libertarian society, it means helicopters.
For a communist society, it means gulag, rehabilitation or at least exile.
Finally, beyond our disagreements about nearly everything, we can agree that any society who tolerate everything is doomed.
This society will collapse, and this day we will be face to face. May the best team win.
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>>138531658
More lies. It's hilarious. In order to convince me that Hitler was a stage performer, I am required to believe you on ZERO evidence and give a LEAP OF FAITH.

But thats how you (((Commies))) work. You literally paint your own reality.

This isn't the Truman show. The Bible is the literal, inspires Word of God, we are under His eyes and your movement is diametrically opposes to ours. You are secular damnatiom pedellers who would be better cast with a millstone.
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>>138529374
Where are the sources for this information? I checked the description and the website and found nothing. There are many records from the Nazi government and pictures of the holocaust. I just have a hard time believing someone giving little to no evidence. I'm not interested in claims, I'm interested in evidence.

>>138531249
I don't know what you mean. And I can't glean anything from your flag because I'm not entirely sure what NazBols are.

>>138531446
I've clicked a few links because I don't have time to look through every exec / person with any sort of power right now, but from the few I've checked, not many of the sources say they are Jewish of any kind. I even looked up some of them separately from the given sources and still couldn't find much by way of them being Jewish. That website mere gives baseless assertions.

Give me some evidence, dammit!
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>>138532171
You're being fucking lazy bro.

You are on the wrong side of the fence. You sound like a young guy. Trust me man.
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>>138531669
Around the 60's was when hippie democrat faggots started to fond over the idea of socialism and would rather sell out their fellow country men than stand strong for democracy and freedom.
Slowly but surely the commies subverted society to accept the idea of communism, look at our universities today, even antifa is evidence of their success.
We fought the wrong enemy in WWII, you could say that we "defeated" both the nazis and the commies but the commies did more damage to american society and its future than the former ever did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wakec06NlA
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>>138528211
Noice
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>>138531127
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_against_humanity_under_Communist_regimes
Feel free to peruse the bibliography.
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>>138518937
Commies deserve death.
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>>138528802
If we were at school, you'd be getting dunked in the dunny
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>>138531811
>Plug ears and cry. Good strategy.
I am setting you straight, no crying here. I will shoot a Nazi with the same glee as I would fag Commies.
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>>138529330
I sure do love the aussies
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>>138531930
>All famines in communist countries were result of extreme backwardness of the country, caused by the previous government. It was promptly fixed, so no more than one famine happened.
If your method of modernization requires a mass-death period of famine, you might want to reexamine your methodology. Japan managed to go from an agrarian, feudal society to a modern, westernized power without starving a sizable fraction of its own population.
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>>138532750
Because you're a fucking clueless faggot that doesnt understand shit.

And good luck, I'm an 0311 Marine. I'd break your beta ass in half.
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>>138532170
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

8th quote down.
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>>138532750
Killing someone who has no interest in killing anyone but your common enemy is a really brave stance to take.
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>>138532371
I'll keep looking through them, but a group that makes these claims should be able to easily back them up, not make the person reading these claims find evidence for them.

Don't you agree that it is disingenuous and lazy on their part to not have readily available and clear sources for their claims?

>>138532564
As if you wouldn't be too much of a cuck to even approach me.

>>138532444
> Conquest, Robert
Yikes, bud. That some shady source.

>>138532630
Not a bot, just someone who loves freedom, equality, and democracy.
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>>138521449
LMAO the entire 20th century was the final argument against your shitty ideology. COMMUNISTS CAN'T EVEN FEED THEMSELVES utterly pathetic.
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>>138533022
(((Wikipedia)))

But anyway: those quotes are either after a jaded Hitler realized the (((Vatican))) he trusted was subverting his war effort and he lost faith, Or More Likely: they are fucking forgeries and you will never find a quote where he denounces his Faith before the German people.
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>>138533136
Ahem.....

Stfu.

Goyimmunism will never work.
It never has.
Never will.
Everyone in this thread has provided clear and consistent facts that communism does not work worth the shit in your intestines.
Turn to capitalism of NATSOC for a effective economic system.
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>>138533475
*or
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>>138518937
It`s not satan incarnate but just brainwashed, just saying.
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>>138533022
>Albert Speer
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-candor-and-lies-of-nazi-officer-albert-speer-324737/
The dude lied his ass off about everything to try and save himself.
Regardless, Hitler had a crisis of faith late in the war. To say that he persecuted Christians is asinine. Other than his discomfort with Catholics, believing that they had a greater loyalty to the Church than the nation (which the election results lends credence to, see pic. related) he had more important religions to persecute.
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>>138533136
You said you would watch the video.

https://youtu.be/-rhGMCYWqKI

And then sit down and watch these. Its a college course in Creation. By Class #3 he is.exposing (((Communism))).
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>>138533136
>communism=democracy

what the fuck are you even on?

But I'm very serious, these threads keep popping up, they're obviously bullshit, and then there's a bunch of ussr flag posters that accompany them. They seldom post outside of these designated threads. Why are they here? A person would know this board doesn't care about communism, seems like a lot of work for some (you)s.
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>>138533231
If a final argument would indeed exist, the idea would be dead, or at the very least extremely fringe like lolbertarianism or Nazism. Marxism as a whole is one of, if not the most influential ideology in the modern world.
>>138532849
Just because you do not know about it doesn't mean it didn't exist. Russia and China also didn't starve any sizable faction of population - the hungers were quite minor compared to the ones that happened regularly all the time before the communists took power.
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>>138533791
https://youtu.be/Unqe61wS7IM

Forgot the link. This video series changed my life
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>>138533855
leftypol missionaries
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>>138533136
>Yikes, bud. That some shady source.
I'm sorry, but complaining about one source, who you can't even voice your real critique of, is not an argument.
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>>138533661
Satans plan in heaven was for everyone to be equal and return to god.
No individualism or free choice. Communism shares the same characteristics as satans plan i.e. Equality, no individual freedom, and collectivism
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>>138532171
>There are many records from the Nazi government
There has never been a nazi document proving the holocaust. Even if you want to believe it, there is a huge difference between gassing some parasitic invaders vs intentionally starving your own people.

I'm sure most commies today are just bottom feeding shit kickers who fell for the (((college))) meme and think that a commie government would actually employ all these snowflakes with their useless arts degrees.
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>>138521623
Mhhhm.

Cultural Marxism is totes not real.
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>>138533855
Lefty/pol/ tries to preach and shift the goalposts, and then gets told to fuck off back to their gulag in either essay long TLDR responses or ANCAPball replies.
Then they run back to Lefty/pol/ to screech about how much they trolled /pol/ by prepping their anus just right.
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>>138533855
>They seldom post outside of these designated threads.
Learn to change your flag. That could be useful for a leaf.
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>>138533061
>Killing someone who has no interest in killing anyone but your common enemy is a really brave stance to take.
Ok... The ideology that you believe in will undoubtedly kill people. Its an authoritarian centralized system. Wrong think will happen in your world just as it does in Commie world. Keep dreaming your fantasy. You are the same as Commies!
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>>138532964
>And good luck, I'm an 0311 Marine. I'd break your beta ass in half.
Why do you assume I am not well trained and have very well trained friends?
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>>138518937
finished The Gulag Archipelago a few months back, just in time for a commie uprising in the US. Education is key. tell people about it. no one was taught what really happened. start with things like, "I wonder why people hate Nazism, but love communism. Communism killed 20x more people."

talk to your neighbors. get the word out. make sure every one you know has read the Higgins Memo.

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3576249/posts

stock up on supplies and food if you can. you can never have too much ammo. if you are poor, offer your services to someone who has plenty. some of us have many extra weapons that need hands and eyes attached to them. talk about tactics in your local area if things go bad. have your community/area all ready on the same page before anything happens. we will not have communism in any form in the united states. the idiots pushing communism will be among the first to dissent when actual communism doesnt have time to play games like are you a boy or a girl. these people are indeed useful idiots, they somehow cannot understand that freedom has been very good to them, too good.

education, community, planning.

if you are in a city, an escape plan and bug out bag are your new top priorities. if you are near water, moving at night and across water is the safest way out. daytime and overland means trouble.

read: patriots, james rawles
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Ya comrades RAH RAH RAH. Let's all act like communism is a real threat in USA and not just a bunch of raging anarchist teenagers. Fucking autistic LARPing faggots of /pol/.
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>>138518937
Hello FBI/CIA
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>>138533475
You're just wrong.
>Turn to capitalism of NATSOC for a effective economic system.
No proof of that lol

>>138533791
Yes, but I am not interested in claims. I am interested in evidence. He is just making assertions. None of them can be proved based on evidence he provides, which is no evidence. I really want to understand, but I can't understand without evidence.

>>138534008
It also posts The Black Book of Communism as a source which has been debunked. I don't need a source for that one because it's in the sources of the book itself!
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>The Nazis were the REAL Communists!
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>>138518937
>Referring to communists as human beings
That's where you make the mistake. Communists are not human, and should be treated lower than slaughter animals.
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>>138534167
no matter how unfunny leafs can be, I don't think we could even register on how unfunny Che groupies are, so leaf flag is an upgrade here by any means. But if you believe in communism so much maybe you should be wearing the flag all the time instead of cowering about it.
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>>138519816
Americans are about 50% socialist these days, possibly more. Stalin is laughing his ass off right now.
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>>138521739
Back in WWII, we managed to trade about 5:1
Come at me bro
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>>138519816
There is a communist party that has <10,000 supporters...
Super scary stuff to the autists of /pol/
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>>138533949
>Just because you do not know about it doesn't mean it didn't exist.
I think the Japanese, or even the numerous foreigners roaming about the country at that time, would notice a mass starvation.
>Russia and China also didn't starve any sizable faction of population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1921%E2%80%9322
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333
I noticed you focused on "noticeable fraction," so I'll rephrase that as "millions of people."
>the hungers were quite minor compared to the ones that happened regularly all the time before the communists took power.
Yes, the food shipments from capitalist nations and third world communist countries exploiting their populations in exchange for weapons certainly helped in that regard.
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>>138534654
Holy shit that means we've finally discovered Real Communism TM
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>>138534759
>maybe you should be wearing the flag all the time
That's not the more efficient thing to do.
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>>138534843
1 is too many. They must be cleansed. And by cleansed I mean educated on the benefits of market economies.
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>>138534843
Communism has many heads, consider it like the Hydra.
The official Cold War Communist Party is deader than Disco, but the next gen of Bernout FREE Healthcare and FREE Education drones are precisely the grounds on which a Socialist Utopia is ushered in.

Then the USA turns into Brazil at best, Venezuela at worst. Because the usual idiots will grant the usual suspects the power to appease and entitle the usual crowd to do the usual actions.
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>>138534926
>Communism
>Efficient
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>>138533949
Marxism is a pathetic joke. The Gulag Archipelago and Mao's Great Famine both make that very very clear.

If communism is so great then why does every country that tries it devolve into a tyranny and ultimately collapse into poverty, famine, and underproduction?
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>>138521448
Post a picture of you wearing the hat with timestamp you nigger.

$6 gorillion says you're a no-chin beta.
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>>138535098
I'll join the commie party for awhile just to piss /pol/ off.
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>>138535239
>What happened in 1945 ?
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>>138534926
okay machiavelli

>>138533978
>>138534135

but recently they are so vocal? Maybe I have just been filtering all the right threads, or maybe I haven't been here long enough to see it when it was worse. I though they started popping up with Charlottesville
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>>138535526
>implying the russian army in WW2 was in anyway efficient
They couldn't even produce enough rifles to arm every soldier, let alone produce the food to feed their entire population... ever. Where's the food, anon???
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>>138534296
>Ok... The ideology that you believe in will undoubtedly kill people.
When did I ever say I believed in it?
>Its an authoritarian centralized system.
Every government is, by necessity, authoritarian. The last time people tried to leave the union, they were invaded.
>Wrong think will happen in your world just as it does in Commie world.
Its happening here and now in a "democracy," go publicly denounce homosexuals or transgender people. Hell, fly a confederate flag or wear a MAGA hat to a university. The government derives its legitimacy, and therefore its authority, from the consent of the people. When the people no longer consent to aspects of the government, i.e. freedom of speech, the legitimacy of that amendment is non-existent. The only way to perpetuate rights, is to perpetuate the culture that absolutely confirms their existence.
>You are the same as Commies!
I didn't realize I was calling for collective ownership of all property.
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>>138521449
I think communist are shitters, but I agree.
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>>138535676
They've been filtering in in greater numbers since before Cville, but every since Cville they've really stepped it up because they feel emboldened after (((Richard Spencer))) went too far and some lardass got smushed.
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>>138518937
go away FBI, no party van tonight thank you very much
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>>138535526
Had Germany not had to wage war on two fronts, then the USSR would not have possibly survived.
It's hilarious how you call them efficient, when most men in the squad had no guns. The plan was to strip the dead when they fell.
Hardly efficient.
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>>138535692
And yet they won. This is what efficiency means.
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I have never been on here before and have no clue what im doing lol, but I read the Gulag Archipelago, the only friend i have left red pilled me and couldnt sleep for weeks. I'm feeling really alone, everyone around me seems like they're sleepwalking or just dumb as fuck. all my friends are sjw's and spew commie shit almost as if they're possessed. I have no clue what to do, i have tried to talk to friends and an antifa guy screamed nazi at me sooooo i guess 60million dead isn't a strong enough argument? anyway i dont want this to be deleted but is there a thread for me somewhere on here
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>>138534570
>The Black Book of Communism as a source which has been debunked
I have yet to see any critique which challenges the existence of the deaths, as opposed to the numbers of people who died or whether they were committed willingly.
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>>138535827
alright thanks, legit thought they were advanced chatbots
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>>138535988
>And yet they won. This is what efficiency means.
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>>138535931
>If things had happened diffrently, the consequences wouldn't be the same.
Glad to see you start to understand what causality means.
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>>138535526
>What happened in 1945
Capitalists and monarchists bailed you the fuck out.
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>>138535526
>America LET you go into Berlin
Commiekikes always need a leg up from their capitalist masters.
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>>138535995
you could always start by avoiding these garbage threads
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>>138535988
The US supplied your inefficient shit of an army entirely.
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>>138535988
The Germans were objectively more efficent, but they had less to work with and made too many enemies.
The USSR had one fucking front, and they got their shit pushed in until the Germans supplies were too stretched to maintain.

>>138535995
The first chapter of Gulag was enough to put me in apocalyptic rage, the accounts of how arrests were made and how people transformed so rapidly into cowed cucked lizards after a few months of the regime.
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>>138536103
There are definitely chatbots here, which confuses the issue, as well as the usual CTR shills and other subversives, but there are ALSO coordinated raids from places like /leftypol/ AND hordes of newfags who came into "shame" /pol/ for being "le internet nazis". It's why the thread creation has been off the charts the last few months.

I miss the days when nobody took 4chan seriously because it was full of anime nerds and /b/.
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>>138535988
>other countries throw their 10 basketballs to the hoop one at a time
>decent ratio between hoops and misses

>Russia throws 50 basketballs at once
>8 go through and 42 miss
>I won!
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>>138536069
I can give you evidence of staggering amounts of deaths under capitalism, millions more than "communism", but that does not make them caused by capitalism. Honestly, just cut this shit out. It's stale.
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>>138536295
Check out the book "Mao's Great Famine". It's more focused on facts but the facts are so utterly damning it'll keep you up at night, too. Also make you want to buy out your local armory just in case commies do take over. Because death in a hail of bullets is infinitely better than even one moment under commie rule.
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>>138536200
Still not enough to win.
>>138536201
>>138536272
Yes, I know about these legends.
>>138536295
It's the usual Russian strategy with an invasion coming from Europe : let them go forward and being trapped by winter.
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>>138536593
>playing the "deaths under capitalism game"
Nah man, you're gonna count natural causes and shit. Try "deaths CAUSED BY capitalism" compared to "deaths CAUSED BY communism".

The amount of famines under each system speaks for itself. But you're probably too hungry to understand logical arguments so I'll forgive you.
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>>138536397
that's what bothers me about people taking the time to shoot down shills. There isn't some basement of losers that the cia pays peanuts to shitpost, they are probably just swarms of chatbots like Tay. They don't have to fool us all the way, hence "one post by this ID", but they suck up thread space.
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>>138536593
>whataboutism
And so we reach the final redoubt of the communist.
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>>138518937
https://twitter.com/TrumInTheNorth/status/899793901724336130
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>>138520393

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954

Good luck with that.

You literally have no rights.
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>>138536554
Remind me, where is the Axis now ?
You fascists have some strange customs:
>Pretending to be the master race
>Losing
>Crying it's not fair because of a jewish conspiracy and whatnot
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>>138536851
>they are probably just swarms of chatbots like Tay. They don't have to fool us all the way, hence "one post by this ID", but they suck up thread space.
Yeah those are almost certainly bots or paid shills. The tactic is called "flooding" which works especially well here where there's a limit to the amount of active threads. I'm 90% sure the mods are being instructed to ignore it because it'd be trivial to filter if they wanted to.
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>>138536732
>Still not enough to win.
Be sure to thank the "capitalist, bourgeois exploiters" for buoying yet another experiment of your failed ideology.
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>>138536593
Is this the part where you blame every death and war in the past millennia on Capitalism whilst denying every crime and action from institutions made after the revolution?
Can't wait for when you conflate Imperialism with Free Market capitalism.
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>>138536593
I've always seen this one thrown around, what do you kids actually mean by "staggering amounts of tax returns under capitalism?"
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>>138537124
Remind me, where is the USSR now?
You communists have some strange customs:
>Pretending to be the source of value
>collapsing
>Crying it's not fair because of a capitalist conspiracy and whatnot
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>>138537124
Where's the USSR again? Collapsed under the weight of a shitty ideology and lack of market incentives to production?
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>>138537174
As Lenin said, the capitalists are dumb enough to sell us the rope for hanging them.
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>>138534831
also keep in mind that atleast 4m germans died AFTER the war. 1m in eisenhower camp, rest in french mines and the gulag.
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>>138537291
You're dumb enough to put your own head in and kick away the stool in disgust.
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>>138522891
>equating communism and fascism
Absolutely, they are both on the same end of the liberty spectrum. Way opposite of freedom.
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>>138537291
>I have no argument so I'll just spout off muh sayings, that'll show those ebil nazis!
You know if you really wanted to, you COULD try to make reasonable, logical arguments for your shitty useless ideology. But you won't, because you're a brainlet.
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>>138522220
>thrived
>acknowledging the kulaks were murders for liking what they worked for
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
thank god you didn't get >>138522222
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>>138537284
>>138537285
Because of failed planning, in the USSR case. Russia was definitively not the best place to start the revolution.
At least, it lasted for 70 years, not 12.
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>>138520393
Fascinating. This communist somehow convinced the turing test it was human and posted this.
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>>138537291
>buy ropes from capitalists to hang capitalists
>end up hanging yourself
pure pottery
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>>138537284
>>138537285
USSR is one of many communist states, which is one of many Marxist ideologies that exist and exert major influence in the modern world.
Point me to a Natsoc country, though.
>Crying it's not fair because of a capitalist conspiracy and whatnot
That we never do. Instead, we improve on our mistakes and do better.
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>>138520241
Didn't he speak german? What was the actual term he used?
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>>138537554
>Implying I'm really trying to convince you
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>>138537701
Unlike Hitler, Lenin died a messiah and still has millions of followers across the world.
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>>138522362

>However, when you use the quotes in context, and understand that Poland had huge censoring laws against anything not anti-Semitic, you understand that Marx doesn't hate jews lol.

Best gymnastics I've seen in a year.
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>>138520393
A communist telling on his neighbor? Well I hardly believe it.
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>>138537124
There's a reason my geographic location is Fascist and not Nazi, I have a booner for the Roman Empire, not Nazi Germany.
Mussolini had the right idea, too bad he was a smug bitch.
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>>138518937
I know I do. The only good commie is a dead commie.
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>>138537713
>the USSR is one of many FAILED communist states
Fixed that for you.
Name one successful Communist country.
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>>138537592
>failed planning
So is that your excuse for Cambodia, Mao's China, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, and every other communist shithole that's ever been? Because there's only one common denominator between all these COMMUNIST countries.

>>138537713
>That we never do.
No it's literally what you faggots do every single time, Marx set you up for it when he added the caveat to his delusions that his murderous ideology wouldn't work without a worldwide revolution.

Marx died poor and unknown, by the way, after torturing his wife and children with his chronic unemployment and failure to provide for his family in any way whatsoever.
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>>138537592
>it took longer for us to fail than another non-capitalist system
>capitalists BTFO!
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>>138520958
CORRECT
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>>138537906
Also unlike Hitler, millions were killed in Lenin's name long after he died.
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>>138536976
>>whataboutism
What the hell are you talking about? That has nothing to do with my post.

>>138537212
>Free Market capitalism
No True Scots capitalism

But I actually would cite the preventable starvation, dehydration, and disease .

>>138537274
>what do you kids actually mean by "staggering amounts of tax returns under capitalism?"
What are you talking about, bud?

>>138537529
>Watch me put any words in any order and they can mean anything!

>>138538001
Looking at material reality in historical context must feel like gymnastics to you.
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>>138537831
>implying you would have a chance even if you tried
That's one way to avoid failure, never try! Good advice for communist losers.
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>>138538111
>communist
never been tried ;^)
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>>138518937
>Soviet hammer and sickle
The people you are probably talking about are antifa, not based traditional old school Soviets. Now fuck off witcha ya
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>>138537592
There is no perfect place to start a revolution, you take nations and fuck them senseless for decades before you implode, but not before you've seeded more agents to sway more useful idiots in other nations.
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>>138518937
A Man after my own heart
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>>138538161
For you.
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>>138538319

>Looking at material reality in historical context must feel like gymnastics to you.

Yeah, totally.

He totally meant the opposite of what he said. Completely.

You are the most genius of geniuses to have found that out.
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>>138536295
It's absolutely horrifying, I'm still in shock and that a lot of people seem to straight up ignore that it happened, even when you present facts. I find that even talking about the soviet union being fucked up is becoming taboo because people associate it with alt right opinions.
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>>138538319
>But I actually would cite the preventable starvation, dehydration, and disease .
Is the bot breaking? Because your grammar is getting worse.
Also TOP FUCKING KEK FROM A USSR APOLOGIST
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>But I actually would cite the preventable starvation, dehydration, and disease .
Would you like me to cite the starvation, dehydration, and disease DIRECTLY CAUSED BY communism? Not just "failed to prevent", but directly caused.
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>>138538436
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>>138538379
>based traditional old school Soviets.

kill yourself faggot tankie, your 120 pound emaciated NEET ass would never make it in the USSR anyway

commies are the biggest larpers on this board as of now, fucking criiiiiiinge
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>>138519816
Socialism is literally a stage leading to communism, as per how it is described by fucking marx, i dont know what the fuck you people are talking about when you say things like this
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>>138538319
>I can give you evidence of staggering amounts of deaths under capitalism

What are YOU talking about?
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>>138538597
It's true you fat fuck. You morons constantly confuse your opposition. Hell, you don't even know what the fuck your opposition is. How the fuck is your side going to win when you literally don't know anything. Pathetic.
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>>138530821
Holodomer is a word invented in the 1980s based on non-facts jsyk
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>>138538319
>That has nothing to do with my post.
>millions were killed for communism
>well what about the ∞ who were killed for capitalism huh!
The difference is capitalism derived naturally and didn't try to "improve" the nation through mass murders.
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>>138518937
>god will reward me for murdering other human beings because other people advocate for a shit form of government
It's incredible how you're such a fucking phoney christian.

Christianity was built upon martyrdom, of men dying to roman lions for their faith, of Christ's very relatable, human death, his humiliation, his denegration, his kindness in the face of brutality.

Christ was not a murderer, and the very idea that you think the lord god almighty would reward you for murder proves you don't love god, you hate him, his creations, his teachings upon our earth, his word itself is repugnant to you, because in blind hate you cast away his commandments, and his decrees, in order to satisfy your utter barbarism.
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>>138538522
The problem is the schools glaze over it, then college fills their head with outright lies and dreams of utopia, so that by the time you get to arguing with them in person or on social media, giving them the simple facts causes too much cognitive dissonance and it's mentally painful for them to keep interacting with you, so they just shut you out and go on their merry way. Or try and kill you.

The education system MUST be taken back. It's the only way to purge this cancerous meme from the world once and for all.
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>>138538522
People think lelMcCarthy superstition and paranoia, not understanding that a huge amount of the USSR's focus was in subversion of other nations, and unclassified documents in the regime show that they really did have agents moving into Academia and Political Institutions, you can still see their influence today.

It's the classic Peterson query, why do we have constant mourning for 6 million yet 100'000'000 million from half a centuries abuse is just ignored with no social consequences for flying a USSR flag?
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>>138538835
I'm sorry comrade, the holod.
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>>138538629
Yes but amerifats cry socialism for everything.
>Minimum wage
SOCIALISM
>40 hour work weeks
SOCIALISM
>Capitalism pushing degeneracy and immigration
SOCIALISM
>Gubment doing stuff
SOCIALISM *dies from heart attack because arterys are clogged with fat and lard*

Socialism is simply the collective ownership of the means of production. That's it.
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>>138538629
Protip: They're called useful idiots or "dupes".
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C'mon, if you're going to make something the new evilest symbol, how about the UN flag?
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>>138538887
lol someone hasn't read Revelations when Jesus puts the hippy shit away and gets serious about smiting evil.
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>>138538111
USSR, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Nepal, Yugoslavia.
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>>138538887
To be honest, John the Baptist (the forerunner of Christ and the return of Elijah) defended the existence armies and soldiering as a valid profession. Killing =/= murder.
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>>138518937
i just laugh at it

and watch all of left/pol/tards get triggered while they post behind this everlasting retarded symbol
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>>138539146
What a garbage, subversive infographic. I've never seen so many lies.

>workers have instant access to the abundance of production
Way to just ignore the problem of distribution which has ruined every "communist" state to this day.
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>>138518937
t. Kulak Kulakovich
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>>138539437
Are you a troll?
>USSR
lel
>China
Only economically successful when adopting pseudo Capitalism and whoring out its own people
>Vietnam
As above
>Cuba
LEL
>Nepal
For fucks sake
>Yugoslavia
FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>138539007
I really am worried about being punched, I live in a small commie city and have already been called a nazi. You can't just cry Nazi and be proven wrong time and time again sooner or later pppl will stop caring about this shit, I hope anyway.

When I have kids they are being homeschooled (if the state allows, holy fuck)
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>>138538588
I would love that actually. Preferably from something that isn't from debunked sources.

>>138538841
>capitalism derived naturally
Describe that process please. I hope you don't mean it was derived from some liberal sense of "talking it out". There was a lot of blood spilled over hundreds of years to bring about the capitalism you know today. Also, Marx agrees that capitalism naturally came from feudalism, just socialism will naturally come from capitalism.

I'm not saying, what about these deaths from capitalism. I'm saying there could be an argument similar to what you make about communism, about capitalism. However I'm also saying that these arguments are flawed. Learn to read please.

>>138538533
Can't attack the argument, so you attack the person. Sucks to suck.

>>138538506
>He totally meant the opposite of what he said. Completely.
Do you deny sentences taken out of context can be misleading? Get real.
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>>138539437
Do you know what "successful" means or did the state collectivize all your dictionaries?
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>>138519816
The goals of socialists and communists are the same. Marx used these terms interchangeably; there is no reason to draw a distinction between them.
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>>138539437
You realize Vietnam is a capitalist nation and Ho Chi Minh never fully subscribed to communism but was more of a nationalist who knew he could gain support from the soviets if he said he was communist
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>>138539831
You are giving no evidence! Just baseless claims!
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>>138518937
Watch and Be Amazed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWp9plnwD9E&t=3s
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>>138539898
You dismiss any sources as disinformation, only acknowledging anything that agrees with you as legitimate authority.
We can't help you, so we can only mock you.
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>>138538596

there are places that still sell that cap , if you want to larp in the streets of USA during the civil war

amazon used to but they gave in and deleted the items

http://www.cooperativa.cl/noticias/sociedad/sucesos/amazon-cerro-tienda-virtual-que-vendia-productos-de-pinochet/2017-08-18/155756_4.html#top-galeria

they should still be avaible somewhere else
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See you in another thread.
You've got a beautiful safe space. It would be a shame if anybody could trigger you.
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>>138539437
>USSR was the most famous for collapsing
>china are a bunch of cannibals and the second i point out the fuckery in its entity your pull the but china isn't really communist because it adopts capitalist ways
>ireland has a charity to go to viet shit to give tin cans to the children
>Cuba is an absolute mess of a fuckin country
>same goes to the other two

jesus christ gone leave your an embarrassment
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>>138540092

I know plenty of Cubans and keep track of the situation in their country , their myth about their amazing doctors as example is all lies
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>>138539831
>USSR
>Yugoslavia
The overwhelming majority of citizens of said countries consider them the apex of their civilisations.
>China
>Vietnam
Was always more or less capitalist in terms of economy and communist in terms of politics. The latter is why their economy succeeded, unlike many other capitalist shitholes.
>Cuba
Significantly better than surrounding countries.
>Nepal
Significantly better than the previous government.
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>>138539898
>Describe that process please.
"Good day, blacksmith. I would like to buy that hammer"
"the hammer is 20 denars"
"that costs too much, would you take 15?"
"I worked very hard to make it, how about 18?"
"hmm, that's fair. deal"
>inb4 3000 different irrelevant definitions of "value"
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>>138540333
You don't know what a safe space is Commie, you can come here as many times as you like and get BTFO but not banned. We can't go over to Lefty/pol/ without being banned because your ideology can't exist without a vacuum.
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>>138539877
Arm yourself and consider moving to the USA. Not even joking. They're not calling you Nazi to shame you, they're doing it to justify future violence against you. ARM YOURSELF.

>>138539898
>Preferably from something that isn't from debunked sources.
Mao's Great Famine is a book that uses data directly form the Chinese Communist Party's own historical archives. Mao caused a famine by ordering retarded farming practices like close planting and deep planting, while also conscripting farmers to work on massive irrigation projects in retarded locations that never worked like they were supposed to. Such irrigation projects ruined the Yangtze river by silting it up, to the point that it ruined all the downstream farming.

The famines all this caused led to widespread edemas in those who were starving. Tens of millions of chinese starved to death in just 4 short years because Mao was a shitty leader and the ideological system of communism he imposed was utterly tyrannical to the core.

https://www.amazon.com/Maos-Great-Famine-Devastating-Catastrophe/dp/0802779239
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>>138540333
>redditspacing
>writes like a dramatic self-righteous fuck
hope your life gets better soon bud
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>>138539898
>Describe that process please
>price discovery is an absolute mystery
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>>138540939
>inb4 the silt was intentionally imported by jealous and sabotaging Capitalists
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>>138518937
You are a right wing programmed and brainwashed moron
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>>138539046
>why do we have constant mourning for 6 million yet 100'000'000 million from half a centuries abuse is just ignored with no social consequences for flying a USSR flag?

>100 gorillion
golly, consider my almonds activated
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>>138518937
stop hating, the cold war is over, hardcore american patriotism is a wall street led meme changing like the seasons
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>>138540609
called it FUCK OFF COMMIE COS-PLAYER YOUR AN ABSOLUTE SPASTIC
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>>138541124
We joke about it now but at the time millions more chinese WERE accused of sabotage and not working hard enough, and were beaten (often to death) and put on starvation diets. China rarely bothered with work camps as punishment, preferring to go straight to beatings and execution, mainly because they turned the entire damn country into a forced labor camp.
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>>138539046
I think the Gulag gives you a point of view that's hard to duplicate without having read it, and a lot of people straight up do not read. I think society is missing something(probably jesus lol) and just pour itself into the only thing that seems justified and that has turned out to be feminism or whatever the latest political trend is that day.

It seems like a fuckin game the elites jerk off to.
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>>138540333
>safe space
Notice how our response was to debate you as opposed to ban you? By definition, this is not a safe space. I'm sorry your beliefs only survive when insulated from the fires of dialectical discourse.
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>>138540199
The hypocrisy is palpable.

>>138540558
>I know plenty of Cubans
Miami cubans and anecdotal evidence does not support your claims.

>>138540709
>>138541121
That is a market you cucks. There were markets in feudalism, slave systems, etc. Markets are not a capitalist mode of production. Capitalism was brought out over years and years of violence against monarchies.

>>138540939
Just wondering, did China have many famines before communism? Might famines have causes other than an ideology? Would you blame the Indian famines on capitalism?
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>>138541512
>oy vey these numbers are getting out of hand, better just mock them and deny them and hope the goyim let it go! Gish gallop all the way to the promised land!
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>>138541825
i thought you said you were leaving, gone do just that your clearly retarded
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>>138518937
bump because it's at least better than the ">communism never been tried and it's awesome and you're just stopping progress" threads
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>>138541825
Your questions are disingenuous. The famines under Mao were DIRECTLY CAUSED BY his failed leadership and the communist tyrannical system that prevented anyone from changing course once he decided what the entire country should do.

We're not going to broaden the scope of this, after you said you were happy to discuss the famines DIRECTLY CAUSED BY communism, as you attempt to deflect blame from Mao the Retard.

Defend that shit. Defend Mao's Great Famine.
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>>138541962
The "Stalin killed everyone" meme is simply that, a meme. The USSR had high population growth outside of the Great Patriotic War
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>>138542343
>STALIN KILLED PEOPLE
Um, no sweetie, he actually didn't
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>>138541719
>I think society is missing something(probably jesus lol)
You're actually right. JBP has outlined this fairly well, but Nietzsche called it. The West is still thrashing around in pain from the Death of God.
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>>138542343
>no source
>starts the graph AFTER Stalin died
>y-axis doesn't start at zero
Pathetic.
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>>138541825

>>138538637
Maybe you missed me, but you need to describe the specific circumstances of what the staggering amounts of deaths under capitalism were
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>>138534843
communists are in power in my country
they are a real and serious threat
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>>138542788
>deaths under capitalism
Don't play that game with him, he'll include every death ever that didn't happen in an out and out communist country. What you want to demand is deaths DIRECTLY CAUSED BY capitalism.
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>>138539046
>why do we have constant mourning for 6 million yet 100'000'000 million from half a centuries abuse is just ignored with no social consequences for flying a USSR flag?
most starved
commies did not start WWIII
Hitler killed 20 mil ( 13 mil in USSR alone)

USSR killed 20, under Stalin, after that he was criticized and the national anthem which mentioned him was abolished
Hitler would never been critizised, he was the party like hitler is germany (t. Rudolf Hess 1934)
... I could go on and on
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>>138541825

Cubans in Chile you piece of shit i'm not talking about people I've met online

The state is oppressive and shuts down any and all opposing views , keeps orders of nuns trapped in their church and feeds of Venezuelan money ( as the Vnzlans starve )

there are also Cubans getting married to prominent members of the communist and socialist party here in Chile and they want to continue pushing Communist agendas once they get nationality and right to form part of the
party

but I guess totalitarian control of thought , infiltration and hate of the christian church are not things that appear wrong to a red bastard like you
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>>138542715
Here you go snookems, point to me where those 100 million died
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>>138542951
no, you see, I win either way because then I can pin him with deaths under communism. I'm going to win anyway because he can't describe what he's suggesting
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>>138543032
You clearly have not read The Gulag Archipelago or Mao's Great Famine. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>138543186
>no source
>starts the graph AFTER the Bolsheviks murdered the Tsars
>y-axis doesn't start at zero
DOUBLE Pathetic.
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>>138542542
Have you read Understanding Media by Marshall McLuhan? If not please find a copy and read it!
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>>138543186
>no source
>if people died, why is the population rising ;^)
>only includes Russia
lmao
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>>138543032
Why did they starve?
Which power came the closest to starting WW3?
How many died from the USSR trying to maintain its Bloc?
>20 Million
Blatant bullshit
>under Stalin
The purges and oppression started prior Stalin
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>>138518937
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>>138542409
ur fucked bud, we got the kill logs.
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>>138543447
If we used the same methods under the Black Book of Communism and applied it to Capitalism, it results in over 1 billion deaths. Better yet, if we went along with the bullshit deaths under communism and then projected it to every country over the same period, it would still be LESS than the deaths caused by capitalism. You literally cannot argue your way out of this one leaf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnIsdVaCnUE
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>>138543447
If you agree to let him compare apples to oranges he's going to lead you on a merry gish gallop all over town and you'll get nothing for it. It's much better to clearly define terms (what's communism, what's capitalism) and what you're comparing (deaths under each system, or deaths CAUSED BY each system).

Have fun doing it your way if you want, but ultimately he's a raiding shitstain so the only way you're going to win is by repeatedly exposing him to logic while all he has to do is shitpost all over the place then masturbate to his framed picture of the unemployed, bad father/husband Marx.
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>>138543574
It's on my reading list. Why?
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why is it do you think that some people eventually are able to "wake up" or be red pilled? can everyone be red pilled or is it attached to iq?
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>>138544447
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>>138543704
Picky ones aren't we. Listen sugarpie, it is you who are claiming millions upon millions died in the USSR directly because of communism. Prove it, and no meme books like the Black Book that has been debunked already.

>starts the graph AFTER the Bolsheviks murdered the Tsars
Ok we will add a few lives to the "communism death toll" :^)

>>138543758
Kek
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>>138543547
I know them and besides muh 66 million and muh it was only jews solschenizyn book is actually very insightful and I also know about the great leap forward dude, it is senseless to say that no one talks about the horrors of communism in education, animal farm was one of the first english books we had to read and the bolshevik revolution was also critized in history class, this whole victim game is just a distraction to give the entire blame on communism and to relativate the crimes of the third reich, and compare american liberals to soviet communists in 1917, I dont play that game
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>>138544292
It's a matter of will. The willingness to consider that you might be wrong and re-examine your own beliefs. It has almost nothing to do with intelligence, as many intelligent people are bluepilled and many borderline retards are redpilled.
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>>138544248
He is BEYOND genius! It's like a premonition, you gotta let yourself be open and imaginative while reading and I think you'll make connections that will shake you to your core, but that could just be me hahah!
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>>138544553
>prove it
>any proof you have is invalid
here we go
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>>138544553
>Pls sources
> lol no you give me proofs
Is this /leftypol/ massive raid in /pol/ level?
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>>138543715
Holodomor
did not start it anyway
500k at most
20 million inculdes the high estimate of the holodomor 12 million
I know
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>>138544733
>>138544836
I've already posted it but you're too lazy to scroll up and read. Millions of claimed deaths because of communism is entirely unrealistic because the high population growth during the Stalinist era outside of the Great Patriotic War.
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>>138544566
>this whole victim game is just a distraction to give the entire blame on communism and to relativate the crimes of the third reich, and compare american liberals to soviet communists in 1917, I dont play that game
No man, it's not a ploy to make nazis seem less bad. It's a desperate plea for sanity in a world where avowed, public communists are violently seeking power and the overthrow of traditional institutions to be replaced with tyrannical communist institutions. It's desperate argument to prevent a communist revolution in the USA, because if it were to happen it would be an utter bloodbath and only the resentful, insane communists want that. These people MUST BE STOPPED.
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>>138544292

you didn't quote anyone so i'm assuming that you aimed that question to the commie in here

From experience as someone that lives in a place that isn't' in hot shit in terms of political happenings I can tell that most people that have the brain and will to understand complex ideas can be informed about what is wrong and corrupted in the world ( aka Redpilling ) but only because they have not been programmed to reject those ideas

I can't imagine being able to joke about Israel or homosexuals with teachers in an american university , or at least not as openly as here
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>>138544671
Yea u right.
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Capitalism kills
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>>138544553
>it is you who are claiming millions upon millions died in the USSR directly because of communism. Prove it
Okay. De-kulakization in the Ukraine after being absorbed into the USSR killed millions when farms were mismanaged and led directly to a famine that would not have happened had the USSR not collectivized the ONLY productive farms in the region.

The famine was so bad they had to put up posters reminding MOTHERS not to EAT their own CHILDREN.
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>>138518937
Me too laddie. Really gets the blood boiling. I've been feigning neoliberalism in public too so they never catch on to me.
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>>138545212
>implying Africa is "the capitalist world"
Nah.
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>>138545088
>people can't be dying if population growth is high
>also the Cheka documents say there were no deaths
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>>138545212
Nothing cited on your pic has to do with capitalism. Try again.
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>>138543930
>nazi holocaust
>12 gorillion
your image is already off to a bad start. Japan was an absolute monarchy? You laughably even added Khmer Rouge. But then US revolution for overthrowing monarchy? But it includes Japan as a monarchy too! Then "General Capitalism" (what). You even added Kulaks. "Children killed by hunger since 9/11" I'm assuming they at least took out the chinese and north korean statistics? Rwandan Genocide was tribalism not a market issue? I hope this image didn't convince you, it's all over the place.

The cigarette deaths worldwide is the most perplexing one, and it's just tagged on the end are you saying communists don't smoke?
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>>138545108
>>138545108
chill down, there will be no communist takeover or whatever, in the original 1917 bolshevik revoultion the only succeeded because they had large amounts of the freaking military on their side who joined because they wanted to stop WWI, the situation today is no way as tense as you describe it
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>>138545212
>humanitarian capitalists subsidize Africa
>african population grows
>unfortunately africans are too retarded to boil water or grow crops
>fucking capitalism man
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>>138545355
Kulaks had already sabotaged collectivization by the whole scale burning of their crops and land.

>>138545490
A lot of it is capitalist yes

>>138545516
Occam's razor. It doesn't make sense to twist rationale that in order to arrive at the equation of an increasing population that the claim of a high death rate is true meaning for some reason only during this period however birth rates were even higher, despite capitalist memes that there were famines and no food. Explain
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>>138545688
thanks for this <3
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>>138543976
this entire thread is a waste of time so the faster it slides off the catalog the better

Why am I here though? Because I had a specific question earlier and now I'm just dicking around
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>>138545750
>A lot of it is capitalist yes
No it's not. The "states" there are utterly corrupt, do not protect private property nor do they enforce contracts. Not capitalist.
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>>138545688

You're naive m8.
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