Arguments against legalization

I live in Canada.. it's too late for me and im surrounded by dog blojobs and faggots

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>>138508371
I used to, but I don't anymore. It just needs to be regulated way harder than alcohol or even tobacco

>>138508371
Yes, not everyone becomes lazy on it but a lot of people it becomes their sole purpose in life. When they should be focusing on more important shit

>>138508763
like browsing 4chan sober

>>138508371
I don't think there are any, but it remaining illegal is a pretty good non-issue that political parties can use to motivate people who are otherwise politically apathetic.

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>>138508707
Because if it isn't it will literally, unironically cause mass paranoid schizophrenia

If it is, it may boost americans' ability at entrepreneurship 10X or more

(Hyperbole)

>>138508371
Meh. I'm not into stuff like alcohol/smoking and other drugs, but I don't see a problem w/ other people killing themselves with whatever drugs they want.
>inb4 "you are implying wee kills"
I was referring to all drugs in general, imo everything should be legal.

>>138508874
That sounds miserable, anon. I'd have a stroke.

>>138508371
because narcotics are degenerate. They have people focusing on hedonistic pleasure when they should be seeking better things.

>>138509264
Do you not see any value in having people realise this by themselves and chose such a path out of their own free will?

>>138508371
Winners don't use drugs

>>138509085
>everything should be legal
This, let people decide for themselves to fuck over their lifes

>>138509802
>potheads
>ever realising anything for themselves
the fact is, you're either the sort of person who would use weed or you aren't. The true solution is to stop people from being the first type.

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>>138508371
>decriminalization > legalization
If you legalize it the state will ahve his monopoly on it, and trust one weed producing company with it.
prices will skyrocket and people who plant their own weed will be prosecuted even more because now the state has a motivation to protect his taxes which he gathers from the monopolization
legalization is just baiting from leftists to get votes.

>>138510245
>smoke weed
>government finds out
>lets sort you out by throwing you in an extremely hostile environment (jail) where you will probably join a gang and become a lifelong criminal.

>>138508371
Because I don't use it and think it's funny to see people freak out about it. I absolutely hate the culture around pot, and that alone makes me want to see it stay illegal. Logically, there's no reason for it to be illegal for people over 25, and it probably would be made legal if the retards that made a culture around it weren't such bad representatives for it.

>>138508874
Kek. Really good point as a matter of fact. Touche

>>138509264
What's your attitude towards alcohol, anon?

If you think weed is degenerate, surely you think alcohol is as well?

>>138510245
I get where you are coming from, I just don't see any worth in a actions that are not driving by your own free will. If such people are not capable of considering such things and decide using drugs is the way to live ones life I wouldn't say forcing them to life one way increases their value - rather it diminishes even further. We might not consider their actions to be worthwhile,but they do stem from their own judgement, so there is at least SOME value to it.

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Am I the only one who suspects criminal gangs who make profit off weed / other drugs pay lobbyists to lobby against legalization?

I mean it is a big revenue loss

>>138508371
that would be bad for petrochemical and pharmaceutical businesses

>>138510695
I take it you mean representatives of recreational pot culture. There is a medical doctors culture around marijuana, especially around cannabis extracts

Cannabis isn't destructive enough. People who are going to waste their lives should be encouraged to do it with strong opiates instead. They'll die faster that way.

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>>138510586
>don't smoke weed
>don't go to jail

>>138508371
it should be treated as alcohol in my opinion

>>138511010
>suck federal governments intellectually dishonest dick
>be complacent and wilfully ignorant 100% of your life
Nice. Now get the fuck out

>>138510695
/thread

>>138508371
because the government shouldn't control what someone does with their own body when it harms no one else. Also, the government shouldn't attempt to control culture.

It's black and white:

>Anyone against marijuana legalization is a brainwashed, ZOG-cock sucking, narrow-minded child.

>>138511010
>government should punish people voluntarily doing stuff to their own bodies and making damage to no one

Tell me how does it feels to be this cuck

Medical grower here.... Totally against it. Over saturates the market and never provides me with my "recreational" percocet, valium, adderall.. nothin.

>>138508371
Keeping weed illegal makes it easier to throw young niggers in prison before they hurt humans.

>>138508371
>Does /pol/ have any decent arguments against legalization of marijuana?
It's degenerate.

t. the only non-high Canadian up here in hatlannd

>>138511860
Legalize all drugs for whites, make being black illegal.
Easy.

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>>138508371
Other than it's health risks, recreational marijuana creates a large portion of society reliant on this drug for their everyday life. It makes people lazy and causes people to have a poor lack of concentration and memorization.Not to mention, marijuana is the poster symbol of modern Western degeneracy. A lazy and addicted civilization is what (((they))) want. The Jew will control the population with this substance like what the British did in China long ago. Society must not tolerate such substances that turns anything into controlled sheeples.

>>138512038
>It's degenerate.
then don't use it are you may be on such a level of degeneration that you need that state to prohibit you from using it because you can't control yourself

>>138508371
no it's fine. you won't be forced to piff paff that jointerino if you don't wantino.

>>138510965
Yes, representatives of recreational use. I don't care about medicinal uses.

>>138508371
No, but I've got plenty in favor for it. I too hate the "culture" (for lack of a better term) that a lot of obsessive marijuana users build their entire identity around, but part of me hopes that would go away with widespread legalization. However, I am against it being sold exclusively through state dispensaries. It should be treated the same as alcohol and tobacco (in sensible states, that is) and modestly taxed at the state level and allow business owners who sell beer, wine, liquor, and tobacco to legally sell it with proper inventory and book keeping. It would increase business for these establishments, and open up new job markets.

>>138512258
>then don't use it are you may be on such a level of degeneration that you need that state to prohibit you from using it because you can't control yourself
That's not fascism then, which is exactly what this country needs.

You weak bitch.

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>>138512103
No. What a fucking twisted view.

Jews own pharma, alcohol and tobacco.

Weed is a threat because it's easily homegrown, therefore no ((($$$$)))) to be made.

Think about it. Jews would be dying laughing seeing posts like yours. Define degenerate. The Bible has a different one.

>>138512455
> It would increase business for these establishments, and open up new job markets.

Putting profit before morals and the well-being of the citizen is crony capitalism at it's finest. Hell, not even, it's just flat out capitalism.

Pretty much no arguments against it other than ridiculous regulations and taxes. Don't but from dispos they spray their shit and sell shit weed grow your own. Also everyone here who is anti weed always gets btfo cannabis is well-studied and it doesn't do anything to what the plastics like bisphenol A have done which is in absolutely everything.

I was for legalisation of drugs until i visited the Netherlands. I never saw so many crackheads and dissabled people(do you guys fuck your sisters or something?). Drugs are pretty redpilled but our culture is to degenerate these days so they should stay illegal.
Tried lsa yesterday, great shit.

>>138512798
Buy*.
>>138512708
Also this weed can be grown quite easily

>>138512635
fascism starts with the strength of the individual.
do some research instead of googling the first wikipedia article and repeat stuff edgy teens on /pol/ say
In fact you are weak and your weakness will weaken the group.

>>138508371
>legalize it but tax the shit out of it
is the most valid argument i get. Study up on PA's soda tax and see how shitizens will literally ignore everything else and ger up in arms to get their sugary drinks

>>138510547
sounds like a grand plan to me.
it will be harder to get high all the time because of the price.

>>138511428
>>138511180
Then don't get caught

>>138508371
It makes you extremely lethargic and continued use makes you an extremely stupid lazy lethargic individual
>Where's my studies proving that, that's just big tobacco trying to fool you dude
People who smoke weed more than once every week are fucking wastes and it should be illegal because these fags are a plague

>>138512708
Then explain why (((Bernie Sanders))) and (((Democrats))) are rallying for it's legalization? Not to mention, legalizing recreational marijuana would only give the Jews a new market to control. In Colorado, for example, people are only allowed possess 1 ounce of marijuana at a time. You think the (((government))) would continue to allow it's growth?

>>138512797
You really know nothing about weed to have an opinion like this. I have written papers on weed with a lot of time an effrt

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>>138508371
>Does /pol/ have any decent arguments against legalization of marijuana?
it is one of the most important and final steps in the process to destroy western civilisation and ensure that we fall due to degeneracy and decadence

they are making sure now that the popular opinion is in favour of cannabis and once they think the time has come they'll make sure the government legalises it

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>>138513386
Oh shit, I'm so sorry Doctor Know-It-All. Would you mind prescribing me Knowledge so I could be more like you?

You should perhaps paste some of your thesis' here so we may attest to your glory

>>138513332
I'll tell you exactlt why:

Every party is (((them))). They all offer a sweet piece of candy with the left hand(weed legalization) and have a hammer in the right(secular socialism).

The Jews can't control a homegrown market or private sales. Legalizing it will take an enormous amount of tension off bad neighborhoods and the beat cops who have to patrol them. At the moment, weed is the same level of crim as heroin. I guarantee you would see a significant drop in the heroin epidemic if they could get their 1st high off weed instead.

Yes, it makes jews look like humans.

>>138513822
I'm trying to be a bit professional about this so we dont look like 2 Nazi assholes who cant even get along.

Weed shrinks tumours, stops seizures, stops many mental disorder side effects, fights cancer in the asophogus, lungs and upper airways, it massively reduces Cortisol(and if you understand cortisol this is significant for EVERYONE), you can drive better on it, it was found in Bruce Lee's autopsy and in Shakespere's pipe.

The reason it was ever made illegal was a guy named Anslinger who was our Attorney General or something, probably a Jew, had a brother-in-law who was a lumbar tycoon and someone just figured out how to make hemp products(which are known to be more efficient than lumber/cotton/plastics in every way, but especially lumber.

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>>138513872
> You: "The Jews can't control a homegrown market or private sales"
> Also you: *Nazi Flag*

Listen tripfag, when you can control the government AND the (((UN))), then you sure as hell can make sure that a certain plant isnt being grown. Or even if they cant, or cant to a certain extent, then they'll just genetically modify it to allow marijuana be way below the cost of growing and maintaining it.

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Weed produces niggers and redditors. It also makes you gay.

>>138514426
> I'm trying to be a bit professional about this so we dont look like 2 Nazi assholes who cant even get along.

I dont like it when people tell me that I dont know enough about something to have an opinion about it based off of one post, tyvm

> Weed shrinks tumours, stops seizures, stops many mental disorder side effects, fights cancer in the asophogus, lungs and upper airways, it massively reduces Cortisol(and if you understand cortisol this is significant for EVERYONE), you can drive better on it, it was found in Bruce Lee's autopsy and in Shakespere's pipe.

I aint opposed to it's medical use. Recreational is what I have a problem with

> The reason it was ever made illegal was a guy named Anslinger who was our Attorney General or something, probably a Jew, had a brother-in-law who was a lumbar tycoon and someone just figured out how to make hemp products(which are known to be more efficient than lumber/cotton/plastics in every way, but especially lumber.

So not because of it's health effects or affect on any citizen or person? Dont think so. Also:

http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1634

>>138514537
What the fuck, you dont understand.

Youre allowes 6 plants in Colorado and if you know what youre doing thats 2700 grams indoor.

Thats free enough.

>>138514979
Cortisol. It reduces cortisol. Which makes it beneficial for EVERYONE. Do you lift weights? If you understand cortisol you understand how amazing THC is.

Furthermore: "recreational use" is a preventative. If it kills cancer and tumors when they exist, it obviously should prevent them from coming in the first place

>>138515152
I do lift weights, but havent heard of Cortisol.

>>138515434
Trust me brah

DUDE WEED LMAO

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
>Cannabis use has been shown to impair cognitive functions on a number of levels—from basic motor coordination to more complex executive function tasks, such as the ability to plan, organize, solve problems, make decisions, remember, and control emotions and behavior. These deficits differ in severity depending on the quantity, age of onset and duration of marijuana use. Understanding how cannabis use impairs executive function is important. Individuals with cannabis-related impairment in executive functions have been found to have trouble learning and applying the skills required for successful recovery, putting them at increased risk for relapse to cannabis use.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4250161/
> In this study, we found that chronic exposure to marijuana (i) reduces OFC gray matter volume, (ii) increases structural and functional connectivity, and (iii) leads to neural alterations that are modulated by age of onset and duration of use. All in all, these findings suggest that chronic marijuana use results in complex neuro-adaptive processes.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/
>The relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia fulfills many but not all of the standard criteria for causality, including temporality, biological gradient, biological plausibility, experimental evidence, consistency, and coherence. At the present time, the evidence indicates that cannabis may be a component cause in the emergence of psychosis, and this warrants serious consideration from the point of view of public health policy.

>>138515849
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4651943/
>Various in vivo and in vitro studies have reported on the empirical role that marijuana plays in disrupting the hypothalamus-pituitary-gonadal axis, spermatogenesis, and sperm function such as motility, capacitation, and the acrosome reaction. >Note: High testosterone levels are also associated with increased in-group favoritism.(That’s why potheads are mostly lefties.)
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586320/
>Studies examining the adverse health outcomes associated with marijuana use have focused primarily on respiratory, cardiac, and metabolic problems, as well as mental health problems such as depression, anxiety, and psychosis.
>https://cdpsdocs.state.co.us/ors/docs/reports/2016-SB13-283-Rpt.pdf
>Bonus one: Marijuana Legalization in Colorado: Early Findings.

>>138515008
Again, legalizing it's production for businesses will inspire (((them))) to produce it for even cheaper. Not to mention, Colorado pot laws =/= (potential) federal pot laws

>>138508371
>Does /pol/ have any decent arguments against legalization of marijuana?


There are only two options.

1) Legalize all drugs
2) Kill drug dealers

Anything else is bluepilled neocon/neolib garbage.

>>138515326
Ok, no cancer and tumors in return for shit memory, increased risk of strokes, and decline in IQ. Seems fair to me

/s

alcohol is worse drug than cannabis
true story

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>>138515948
> Kill drug dealers

>>138516242
Really it makes no difference to me.

Putting them into prison is literally the most bluepilled option.

EITHER legalize drugs OR use drug laws to get rid of scum.

The american model is literally the worst one.

>>138515897
Remember this you puppet?

>"The sugar industry paid scientists in the 1960s to play down the link between sugar and heart disease and promote saturated fat as the culprit"

Cortisol:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8257923

"COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT I'M A FAGGOT THAT NEVER WENT TO PARTIES":
https://youtu.be/q6Fcks7pla0

Cancer:
http://herb.co/2016/08/25/cannabis-kills-cancer/

>>138508371
Big Pharma will lose out big time if marijuana becomes legal. They're so poor and really need the money. Please help.

>>138516167
Sauce

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Decriminalize all drugs.

Pros
>people who can handle drugs and still maintain their lives don't get punished for no reason
>punished drug users don't get their lives shat on for a victimless crime even further and creating even more problems not only for the drug user but society as well
>taxation
>quality control of drugs on the market
>removal of organized crime's main source of income
>drug war funding can be better invested in education and rehabilitation
>more harmless people working and paying taxes instead of being locked up in prison
>drugs being less of a taboo, people are more willing to learn differences in drugs and avoid certain drugs that might not fit them
>drugs being less of a taboo, problem user addicts aren't as afraid to seek help
>people who can't handle alcohol or who turn belligerent and violent when they get drunk have alternatives
Personal pros
>get to buy weed and psychedelics from a reliable source and knowing what I'm buying without having to fear getting robbed by a nigger or having to grow myself
>social norms don't push me towards alcohol as much t: belligerent and angry when drunk, but fun and energetic when high

Cons
>people who hate drugs are disgruntled for a decade
>sniffer dogs out of job
>ease of access for underage
>no accurate ways to test if a person is driving under the influence of certain drugs

Cons that are solved by a much better solution
>street view ruined by drug users - literally make laws against public use and fine people using in public areas
>lazy addicts becoming a drain on the welfare - cut welfare for people until they pass drug tests

>>138516167
Health-wise that's true.
Some people become happy fools when drunk but anxious and frightful when high.
Some drugs suit others better than the rest. Alcohol is no different. It shouldn't be the only available drug though because of the problems it causes in certain people.

>>138516469
>herb.co

>>138516427
Basically, America is fucking horrible on so many issues. I do think the death penalty is the way to go for sellers and users imo

i need to stop browsing /pol/ stoned you fuckers are insane

>>138516242
Rodrigo Duterte is just killing off his competition. Drug dealers always do this.

>>138515901
Again...it's a major threat to (((them))) because one can jusr grow 2700 grams in their basement every month legally.

>>138516105
Increased risk of strokes...bullshit. maybe if youre already an unhealthy, hypertension-having adult who burns 4 calories a day.

As far as IQ, mine is 142 and has remained that way for the past 15 years of regular smoking.

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>>138516469
Oh shit, I forgot that the marijuana industry has had billions of dollars to spare for decades

>>138508707
>I used to, but I don't anymore.
How does an argument stop being decent? Or is it just that you do not want to use them anymore because you became a pothead?

>>138516500
>ease of access for underage
Yeah about that. The dealers I bought from back when I was 15 didn't exactly ask me to show ID.

>>138508371
America has a cigarette problem, drinking problem and pill popping problem, and they're all legal
Why add something to the mix while we're still fixing the other 3

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Recreational markets suck; keep it medical and grow and give. Deschedule, plant it next to the tomatoes. Hemp should be 100% legal for fibre.

Also, if it's legalized, it would be heavily taxed and regulated.

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>>138508371
your mother

>>138516578
Ad hominem. The article is essentially 10 ncim articles condensed. Go verify each one if you really love small, greasy ZOG dick that much.

>>138508371
No.

>>138517007
Medical herb is good.
But if you smoke it for pleasure, you have to be shot.

>Pay over a trillion dollars for a useless policy
>Don't pay over a trillion dollars for a useless policy

Only blind moral puritans would pick the first one. If the government won't protect me from lack of health insurance, then I don't need them to protect me from marijuana either.

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US Patent US6630507
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia.

>>138513000
Criminally underrated trips

>>138516806
The option to buy it in the free market is available.

But so is legally growing $10,000 worth in your basement for personal use.


If you wanna be so anal and adament about something, act like this about alcohol and cigarettes. Really. You are coming across as a champion for the wellbeing and health of society, and you attack weed of all things? I wanna see you making anti-(((Budweiser))) movements and firebombing Winston-Salem. Fuck weed.

>>138516791
> Again...it's a major threat to (((them))) because one can jusr grow 2700 grams in their basement every month legally.

The federal government doesnt allow you to make your own alcohol without a special permit, you think they'll also allow you to grow your own cannabis?

> Increased risk of strokes...bullshit. maybe if youre already an unhealthy, hypertension-having adult who burns 4 calories a day.

You: "Marywanna stahps cancer!"
Also you: "It causes strokes? HA! What a spook"

Just accept that marijuana has many bad side affects. There's no denying it

> As far as IQ, mine is 142 and has remained that way for the past 15 years of regular smoking.

If you have an IQ of 142 and youre on an anime image board, then something went wrong in the test score's calculations

>>138508371
People feel the need to do illegal stuff sometimes. To brainwash them into smoking some grass that just turns you into a vegetable for a while, without giving observable long term effects from being smoked seldom is the best option.

>>138516485
alcohol is powerfull neurotoxin
very
literally dissolves the brain

>>138517162
Again, Cortisol reduction and tumour/cancer prevention benefits ALL PEOPLE.

And I actually dont advocate smoking it, as that probably had slighty negative effects. But we should be able to eat as much THC/CBD as we want.

giving niggers what they want encourages them to stay in america desu

>>138508707
its safer than both we dont need more regulation on weed

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>>138517450
> The option to buy it in the free market is available.

Forrr......... how long? And in what states? I dont think a bunch of stoners have had enough money to buy off the government

> You are coming across as a champion for the wellbeing and health of society, and you attack weed of all things?

Oh shit, I forgot that "Does /pol/ have any decent arguments against legalization of marijuana?" also includes the discussion of alcohol, tobacco, opioids, and other drugs too

>>138517528
That is literally the law in Colorado. You can grow 6 plants yeilding 450 grams a piece. Legally.

And it's honestly disgusting that you're buying into (((fake news))). No one in history has ever died from weed or had a stroke. All else is (((fake news))). I studied this extensively and youve proven several times in our discussion that you are a noob to the drug.

There's nothing wrong with me being here. The Holocaust falsifying memes and freedom to talk about ((())) is appealing.

>>138508371
Yeah, it means I have to pay more taxes.

>>138517612
I'll give you a pass since English probably isnt your first language, but might I add that marijuana consumption has also very bad effects on the brain.

>>138518020
I dont understand what your saying. I just spent 4 months in California so I suggest you go chill in one of these places so you understand thr situation on the ground. It is making tension between law enforcement and citizens non-existant.

>>138516687
>. I do think the death penalty is the way to go for sellers and users imo
II really don't mind.

Again.

It's a binary choice for me. Drug dealers will just starve in a legal environment anyway. Might as well shoot them.

>>138508371
Legalize all drugs, but also warn of the dangers of certain drugs. If someone shows up at the ER from an overdose they should be ignored and left to die. Thin out the retards. Put responsibility on the individual and their family, not on the state.

>>138508371
It's one of those things that people do to make them more content with mediocrity or an unfulfilling life. I don't see any point to keeping it illegal, but I feel that heavy usage deserves to be looked down upon with a patrician disdain similar to that of the heavy use/abuse of alcohol and tobacco by poorer and working class people, and the behavior of junkies.

When you advocate for universal suffrage and egalitarianism, and hold the common man and his virtues in high esteem, you condemn your society to a future which is nothing more than an endless onslaught of infomercials, where feelings reign and celebrities or televangelists wield more power than experts, those with actual merit, and theologians.

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>>138518053
> That is literally the law in Colorado. You can grow 6 plants yeilding 450 grams a piece. Legally.

Again, allow me to state AGAIN that Colorado pot law =/= (potential) federal pot law.

> And it's honestly disgusting that you're buying into (((fake news))). No one in history has ever died from weed or had a stroke. All else is (((fake news))). I studied this extensively and youve proven several times in our discussion that you are a noob to the drug.

The fact that youre using the "No one has died from pot" shows that youre just a stoner shill. Please explain WHY this is fake news:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/301537.php

> There's nothing wrong with me being here. The Holocaust falsifying memes and freedom to talk about ((())) is appealing.

You think this is all just a meme?

>>138510934
there's way more money in legalization than cartel lobbying.

>>138518297
I'm in the Northeast where half the kids are addicts, one of my old best friends is one. His noggin aint where it used to be, let me tell you

And of fucking course there isnt much tension between law enforcement and citizens, it was decriminalized there for fucks sake. What did you expect? More pot raids? kek

if you're against pot, you have to be against alcohol and tobacco. don't be a hypocrite.

>>138518779
Even HALF of the Colorado law would yield a 6 month supply of personal use. ANY federal legalization will include a home plant law. It is guaranteed, because recreational weed and a constant smell in the air would give police ZERK probable cause to start searching basement for growers.


And you understand the mechanics of a stroke, right?

>"It is generally held that marijuana smoking may cause a temporary increase in blood pressure upon first smoking, but that with chronic use it will actually lower blood pressure."

Do I think it's all just a meme? No, i save the memes and think tank gems and go get banned on Facebook.

>>138509034
i dont think that'd be so bad. We could adapt

>>138518993
Yeah, the Northeast is fucked. Guarantee if they legalized it federally your opiate epidemic would disappear overnight.

>>138519128
Against tobacco, as for alcohol, I'm fine with the current restrictions but punishments should be greatly increased

>>138518983
but for who? thats the point

>>138519509
Negative. They should both be completely illegal. They are truly, 100% (((degenerate))).

Do we even need to see (((who))) holds the most shares in Anheiser-Bush and Marlboro?

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>>138510934
>implying criminal gangs even want to lobby in any manner when the PIC is where they get their most loyal and violent soldiers
>implying we don't already get revenues from the illegal drug trade
>implying that cartels couldn't compete with legal dispensaries.

What are you smoking bro?

>>138519297
If I'm understanding you correctly (it was worded weirded, no offense), then precisely. Under federal law if marijuana was legalized, then it would be prohibited to grow for personal use without a special permit, like alcohol.

> And you understand the mechanics of a stroke, right?

Not particularly, no. I know that it's caused by blood clots and high blood pressure, though. I dont claim to know about things that I dont

>>138519297
If I'm understanding you correctly (it was worded weirded, no offense), then precisely. Under federal law if marijuana was legalized, then it would be prohibited to grow for personal use without a special permit, like alcohol.

> And you understand the mechanics of a stroke, right?

Not particularly, no. I know that it's caused by blood clots and high>>138519406

>>138508371
I support weed only on the basis that American businesses and the govt can make a metric fuckton off of it. Legalizing weed opens competition bewteen tax paying business and the mexican cartels. May our schools and roads be built on the backs of the lazy and intoxicated

>>138519678
> Alcohol is degenerate
> Claims to be a follower of Christ
> mfw the last thing Jesus drank was wine (or also technically wine mixed with vinegar)

>>138519727
is there a source for pic related?

>>138520331
Wrong. There are like 40 English words for the Greek word wine. Grape juice for example.

The Bible clearly states not to drink when the drink has fermented.

>>138520060
How much easier is it to brew alcohol now that police are particularly looking for it. In the prohibition, cops looks for drunks, smelled for drunk, asked around about drunks, then followed the rabbit trail. Now they just tell them to get in a cab and leave.

And stroke comes from hypertension and chronic wees use reduces hypertension.

>>138520545
are you retarded? the bible clearly says to enjoy a drink but to stray from drunkenness and addiction faggot

t. drug and alcohol counselor for Christian charity

>>138520175
pretty sure a regular business will get shot up if its market rival is a violent crime syndicate

>>138508371
They almost legalized it in my state. The funniest radio caller I've ever heard was this stoner who called in loaded and went on a rant about how they were trying to fuck over his neighbor who deals to him. He accidentally mentioned the guy's name three times as he's going on about how they guy's wife and two daughters don't even know he deals and how they're going to starve if it gets legalized.

>>138520545
RIDDLE ME THIS: How come the early Greek-speaking Christians used wine as a base for the blood of Christ?

>>138521010
Read more

Proverbs 23
31Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.

>>138520175
See>>138519727

>>138521083
Yeah, I'd hate to get in the way of a government payday as well.

>>138521194
Just look
https://www.cai.org/bible-studies/hebrew-and-greek-words-translated-wine

>>138508371
Nope. Legalize it.

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>>138508371
I want niggers to keep getting arrested for possession and subsequently imprisoned for whatever else they have warrants for. And you know the kikes will probably be the ones profiting off of it the most. But other than that, no

>>138508371
It attracts libshits and other nefarious types.

Just ask Denver.

>>138508527
>Living in Canada in the first place

>>138521267
Read the entire passage it's literally about addiction.
Do not ever use the bible to cherry pick your own arguments, that is what evil men do. You are confirmed a Christian LARP with an agenda.

>x is degenerate
>nazi flag

how the fuck did i not see that coming?

>>138521864
>>13852126
Namefag BTFO

>>138521864
You're projecting yourself onto me. Hilarious. You want to defend your sin at all costs. Whatever dude.

https://youtu.be/85gEiLA2-Go

Federal legalization will just cause big tobacco to switch gears into a similar industry with less regulations and greater public opinion. The same or similar chemicals in tobacco will eventually make their way into your marijuana. They have the infrastructure and land already needed for economies of scale and will drive out all smaller, healthier competition.

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>>138508371
I personally stopped smoking marijuana about 2 months ago. I smoked for years. I used it as an antidepressant. Towards the end of my smoking, my mind was starting to act very strange. I would lose a sort of consciousness for a second at a time. My head would fall back and shit. Fucking weird. I felt like my brain was trying to fight against itself or something. I would feel like I was dying. I was starting to get anxiety attacks after I would smoke. The last time I smoked, I was in my yard and while high walking around I lost my vision for a few seconds but I was still able to walk around. I was dizzy. I struggled that evening. I didn't have problems until after about 6 years of smoking. But I haven't touched any weed in a couple of months and my depression stopped and my memory started coming back and my mental clarity is like 5x better. I honestly think weed can mess up your brain. I wish I could still smoke but I will not dare to smoke anymore. I think It may put me into some sort of mental state I'm not able to come out of.

>>138522097
Yes, I've worked with the church for over 10 years but some guy with a nazi flag and jesus in his name told me I'm wrong, he even linked me a video lmao btfo!

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>>138522308
Yeah, you sure sound like a Christian with 10 years in the church. Profanity, agression and openly denouncing Dr. Hovind. Cool bro. Did you wanna talk about the Nazi flag, you bluepilled faggot?

>>138508371
Drug dealers would have to find new jobs.

>>138522518
Okay bro, enjoy your little nazi larp. I'm sure i'm not as good of a Christian as you, 10 years in the Church doesn't make someone a militant Christian, but it does give you appreciation for the way the bible is interpreted (and misinterpreted) by people with agendas.

besides I've probably saved more people from the throes of drug addiction than you could hope to accomplish by serving up lies on a fucking image board, peace.

>>138523110
And I've killed Jihadists. Since we're comparing dick sizes.

Ephesians
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

there's no argument against the legalization of marijuana when tobacco and alcohol are legal with significantly worse effects and death rates

>>138513154
You're asking too much of potheads.
>what's wrong with me getting a medical marijuana card? i need weed for my anxiety
>gosh, i hate tobacco smokers
>you know you can do more than just smoke marijuana, right? i'll just have pot cookies when i'm stressed!
>i hate alcohol. it tastes disgusting, and one of my friends died thanks to a drunk driver. alcohol needs to be banned!
>yeah, i'm smoking weed indoors with my bubbler, so what? i'm doing it near a window, so it won't smell as bad!
>it's still stinking up the whole house? well, then go outside!
>fuck, i get so stressed out while driving! i need to start smoking weed before driving from now on
>haha, it's fun watching cartoons while high every day! it's not like you can get addicted to weed like you can with alcohol, so it's okay!
>hey, timmy, do you want to try some weed? i know you're only 13, but you'll love it, i promise!
>wooow, driving is so much funner now! it used to feel so serious, but now i don't have to concentrate as much!
>haha, i'm just gonna pull into this school parking lot and light another doobie
>WHAT THE FUCK, YOU STUPID FUCKING PIGS? WHY ARE YOU ARRESTING ME? I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG! DON'T YOU HAVE ACTUAL CRIMINALS TO CATCH?
Don't give an inch to potheads, /pol/. My state legalized weed, and now my once-clean city reeks of pot now.
Stoners have gotten more uppity, too, and I've seen friends and family sucked into the retarded 4/20 lifestyle.

>>138510586
>don't smoke weed
>don't go to jail
IMAGINE MOI SHAWCK

>>138510770
it is, yes, but at least has some cultural relevance as opposed to 'lol muh weed xddddd'

>>138510815
Not everyone's viewpoint is valid or worthwile. after spending any time on /pol/ you should have realised this.

>>138523919
>military
now whos bluepilled?

spend your time talking about shooting people instead of drugs. You wouldn't believe the huge amount of people who become opiate addicts because 'alcohol is degenerate' line of thinking, mostly soccer moms but still.

I have yet to see any legitimate arguments FOR marijuana

Note that "dude alcohol is worse lmao" is not an argument.

>>138524440
There's a difference between someone viewpoint being valid and having some kind of value.

>>138516500
>ease of access for underage
underage kids have literally never been stopped from doing drugs by anything. FFS kids would keep trying to sell me weed in class in highschool and there were potheads that everyone knew to go t o

>>138508371
Only problem is that right now it's illegal but also very much dangerous in bad hands, people cut it and shit with dirty coke and nasty acid otherwise it's a miracle drug for me

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>>138524528
What the fuck are you talking about you embarassing beta male? Fuck yourself. You are such a phony person on the internet. You'd get smacked up irl.

>>138524784
Another Trudeau slimebaby with a literally retarded post. I am growing to truly dislike Canadians. Every single one on /pol/ is mentally handicapped.

>>138517528
You really don't know what IQ is huh.

Can someone explain to me why Christians or any religious person is against marijuana? Wouldn't it's existence imply god wanted it to be used?

It comes down to a chicken or the egg question. Does weed make people degenerate or do degenerate people smoke a lot of weed? If it's the latter there's no problem having it legal

>>138526023
>Can someone explain to me why Christians or any religious person is against Eve taking the forbidden fruit? Wouldn't it's existence imply god wanted it to be used?

>>138508707
>It just needs to be regulated way harder than alcohol
Any particular reasons? I don't think anyone has stoned himself to death or killed anyone while driving. Although you could potentially induce yourself diabetes during a continuous munchies spree

>>138508371
Sure.
With it will come government regulation.
The government is at best retarded.

>inb4 hurr durr how can the government possibly fuck Up legalizing drugs?

I don't know, how did it literally perform every possible task is an underachieving manner for the last 35 years at least?

>>138514648
>It also makes you gay.

>smoke weed
>become gay
>stop caring about feminism
>stop caring about being cucked into marrying.
>can't get my partner "accidentally" pregnant
Where do I sign?

>>138529220
they do mail pretty good

>>138525598
rofl exposed

>>138508874

rekt.

>>138508371
It smells horrible and makes everyone literal submissive retards.

Here's a good article explaining why legalizing it hasn't been working out as planned

http://www.dailyrecord.com/story/opinion/2017/08/08/opinion-marijuana-devastated-colorado-legalize-nationally/104376824/