Obvious flaws in Kevin MacDonald's work?

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>>138496750
FYI here is a pdf of the entire book for anyone interested in discussing:
>http://www.angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf

>>138496750
>So why is Kevin MacDonald worshipped by the alt-right as a guru?
Have you even read CofC?

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>>138496750
>if Ahskenazi jews have higher IQs as a result of "artificial selection" through their "rabbinical tradition"

they dont. Kevin is a Zionist stooge who spreads Jewish propaganda.

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>>138497053

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>>138497053
>>138497243
time to stop following CIAniggers

>>138496950
>Have you even read CofC?
Did you even read my post? What else did it say?

>>138496937
Thank you. Really didn't want Amazon knowing I bought this

>>138497331
Hmmm i didn't know this...

What about Jared Taylor? He also spent years in nipland

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>>138496750

>The average for the nation of Israel is lower than any European country, at 95
This does not serve as a valid counter-objection when you've already acknowledged that non-Ashkenazi Jews do not have similarly high IQ's. Because Israel has many non-Ashkenazi jews (and many non-Jews in general), we would not necessarily expect Israel's average IQ to be above the average for European countries.

>why don't Middle Eastern or Asian jews have high IQs as a result of the same rabbinical traditions?
Middle-eastern Jews have higher IQs than their middle-eastern counterparts. That doesn't imply that middle-eastern jews would necessarily have higher IQs than non-Jewish Europeans (since non-Jewish Europeans have higher IQ's than non-Jewish middle-easterners).

I'm not familiar with the authoritative studies on Jewish IQ, but I think those two points I raised are worth considering. In general, I don't think that MacDonald's central thesis necessarily falls apart even if we conceded that Askhenazi Jews do not have higher IQs than their European counterparts.

Pic not really related, but interesting nonetheless.

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>>138497559
>Jared Taylor
He is pretty defensive of the CIA.

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>>138496750
>>if Ahskenazi jews have higher IQs as a result of "artificial selection" through their "rabbinical tradition",
I've not heard of that.
The reason Ahskenazi Jews have higher IQs, from what I've read, is because in Europe Jews had many restriction on what they could do for work in their host countries, and usury and financial management become the main source of sustenance for them.
The Jews who weren't smart enough to do it? Didn't survive and/or didn't have as many kids because they couldn't support them.
So, under these circumstances, NATURAL SELECTION leads to a much higher IQ fairly quickly
This is also why most Jews aren't athletic... athleticism did nothing for them, it was basically useless.

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>>138496750
Because IQ is still at least half genetic.

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>>138497727
>This does not serve as a valid counter-objection
You don't think it's relevant that other Jewish populations with the same rabbinic traditions seem to function as control groups? They don't have similarly high IQs despite the same traditions; even with a higher percent of Ashkenazim than any European country, Israel is STILL lower than European averages. If MacDonald's thesis holds, we should expect to see ALL Jewish groups with higher IQs, and a state with a higher percentage of Ashkenazim should benefit and score higher, not have a lower average than European countries with fewer Jews per capita.
>Middle-eastern Jews have higher IQs than their middle-eastern counterparts
But still lower than European averages, so why the discrepancy between Ashkenazim and Sephardics? Its not accounted for.
>I'm not familiar with the authoritative studies on Jewish IQ, but I think those two points I raised are worth considering
Pic related.

>>138497856

So who isn't a CIA agent then?

He makes the IQ case as only part of a bigger whole.

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>>138496750
>"superior Jewish IQ"
Superior Jewish IQ only applies to Ashkenazi Jews. Sephardic Jews and other Jews have lower than average European IQ. It is probably true that the Jewish culture of learning and reading has selected for higher intelligence, and it's probably true that Sephardic Jews are on the higher end of the spectrum as far as brown Semites are concerned. The same is true for Ashkenazi Jews, who have a greater degree of Western European ancestry. White Western Europeans could probably achieve around 115-120 average IQ given the right culture. There definitely is a genetic aspect to intelligence which gives populations an "upper roof" for IQ. I'm even convinced that Ethioptic Jews are more intelligent than non-Jewish Ethiopians. That still doesn't mean an Ethiopian Jew is more intelligent than your average white European.

The reason Israel has a low average IQ is because it's filled with Arabs and filled with Sephardic Jews. If you filter out Ashkenazi Jews they have a high intelligence.

I don't really see the inconsistency, considering MacDonald is a believer in genetically predisposed IQ.

>>138498464
>Superior Jewish IQ only applies to Ashkenazi Jews.
Nope, see:
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1503342525754.jpg

>>138498031
>The reason Ahskenazi Jews have higher IQs
Except they don't, all of you repeat this like a dogma but its a myth.
>because in Europe Jews had many restriction on what they could do for work in their host countries, and usury and financial management
Jews didn't evolve "one full stndard deviation" higher IQs in the span of 1500 years or less. Think critically about this nonsense, most of it i false on its face if you just think for a moment.

>>138498408
if he suggests dick spencer I'm closing this thread and not coming back

>>138496750

Ashkanazi Jews have a very high white European admixture.

Also they do score higher on IQ tests than whites.

The reason Israel has such a low average iq is because it is full of mizrahi Jews and Palestinians.

>>138499177
>Also they do score higher on IQ tests than whites.
Like broken records, its just not true, sorry. You've been misled, its a liberal myth.

>>138496937
Thanks, anymore great .pdf you can supply?

>>138498369
Different Jewish groups are mixed with the different local populations. When two populations mix, the resulting IQs tend to be somewhere in the middle. Thus, the relevant factor is the Jewish IQ relative to the average IQ of those that Jews mixed with in that particular region.

>>138498610
I don't think that picture debunks the argument at all. And it's using faulty logic. "We would expect to see a superior IQ in orthodox Rabbinical traditions in the Middle East". Yes, within the confined boundaries of the brown Semites who live in the Middle East, but intelligence can only be refined so far. There are genetic limits to IQ, which means that Ethiopian Jews will never reach an average IQ higher than that of white Europeans.

Simply put: brown Jews are dumber because they're brown. But as far as brown people go, they're probably smarter than your average brown. Same thing is true for Ashkenazi Jews -- they're at the upper end of white IQ because they have more Western European admixture. If whites lived in a proper culture, we might be able to push our average IQ above 110.

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>>138498408
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>>138497559
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>>138499345
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>>138499715
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>>138499676
>Jared Taylors wife is Jewish
Are you serious? Source on that?

>>138499715
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>>138499351
Implying that Sephardi IQ is so low that it "swallows" the Ashkenazim IQ gains in Israel?

>>138499511
Both objections are irrelvant:
>within the confines of the brown semites
wut?
>the Ethiopian Jews
Are a tiny population percentage of Israel, not even 1% most likely -- these are red herrings.
>Simply put: brown Jews are dumber because they're brown
I don't think you really have a clue what you're talking about, there simply isn't data to back up the myth of Ashkenazi superior IQ, its literally a myth:

Richard Lynn in his paper "The Intelligence of American Jews" has given a downgrading of the Jewish intelligence IQ score. He notes that earlier studies such as the Backman 1970 study were based on small samples: the number of Jewish boys was only 65. Other studies use similar small samples and have not been drawn to be nationally representative. One further study by Backman in 1972 which Lynn considers representative had sample sizes of 1236 Jews, 1051 White Gentiles, 488 Blacks and 150 Orientals.

IQs for six factors were calculated and the Jews scored: verbal comprehension factor 107-8, English language 99.5, mathematics 109.7, visual reasoning 91.3, perceptual speed and accuracy 102.2 and memory 95.1. Lynn feels that the
>"Differences in the IQs for the various abilities are so great as to raise doubts about the results,"
and he says that the verbal IQ of 107.8 is at the lower end of estimates of Jewish verbal ability - even though these other estimates are non-representative and therefore technically flawed.

See:
>Richard Lynn, "The Intelligence of American Jews," Personality and Individual Differences, (March 2003, on-line article.)
> J.G. Backman, "Youth in Transition," vol.2 (University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, 1970)
> M.F. Backman, "Patterns of Mental Abilities: Ethnic, Socioeconomic and Sex Differences," op. cit. note 9.

>>138499875
Im very serious, and if you havent already known this then you need to research more

>>138498973
>Jews didn't evolve "one full stndard deviation" higher IQs in the span of 1500 years or less.
You could do that ina few generations.
If you take 1000 ppl and kill everyone with an iq less than 140 the ones that are left will give birth to children that are at least one standard deviation above.
That's what I'm saying happen.
The lesser intelligent Jews died out.
That makes perfect scientific sense.
However, you may be right and they may not have higher iqs and instead manipulate the data.
I'll buy that. China, Japan, India and Korea do the same thing.

>>138498369
>>138499351

Take the following proposition: doctors, on average, have a higher IQ than non-doctors. This is a fairly reasonable assertion that in all likelihood is true. That doesn't imply that African doctors will have a higher IQ than European non-doctors, however. This is because Africans, on average, have a MUCH lower IQ than Europeans. What the proposition does imply, however, is that African doctors will have a higher IQ than African non-doctors and European doctors will have a higher IQ than European non-doctors.

The same logic applies, but when you replace Jew for doctor and Middle Eastern for African. The assertion in question is that Jews on average have a higher IQ than non-Jews. This implies that European Jews have a higher IQ than non-Jewish Europeans, and Middle Eastern Jews have a higher IQ than non-Jewish Middle Easterners. But it doesn’t necessarily imply that Middle Eastern Jews have a higher IQ than European non-Jews, because Europeans on average have a much higher IQ than middle easterners (with whom Sephardic/Mizrahi Jews have intermingled and therefore taken on some of their lower IQ).

>>138499961
>wut?
When you say "we would expect to see a superior IQ in orthodox Rabbinical traditions in the Middle East", are you saying that we would (according to MacDonald's theory) expect nigger Jews and sandnigger Jews to surpass white IQ solely on the basis of coming from a Jewish tradition?

>>138499904
THANK YOU

>>138496750
Obvious flaw:

the culture of critique stems from protestantism, now judaism. It was protestantism that was critical of tradition, not judaism

>>138499875
here is a link to the interview she did
>she claims not to have jewish orgins
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/05/04/setting-record-straight-longtime-partner-jared-taylor-addresses-white-nationalist-criticism
but look who Jared ran to.... SPL

>>138500161
Her name is Evelyn Rich, doesn't sound very kikish. And apparently she went public stating:

>Am I a Jew? The answer is no, I am not a Jew. I am not a Jew by religion, ethnicity, race or any other criteria or definition.

I should've realized you were a liar when you didn't bother linking a source for your claim, even when prompted.

Jews have a higher number of genetic issues from breeding practices, more are born with autism. So while you have quite a lot of High IQ autistics in the Jewish gene pool, it's offset by having a lower functioning gene pool on average. Statistics are slanted because of selection bias.

>Proof
There are so many with such a small number of the Jewish race that they must compromise their national security just to put them to use.
http://www.aish.com/jw/id/Autistic-Soldiers-in-Israeli-Defense-Forces.html

>>138496750
>then why don't Middle Eastern or Asian jews have high IQs as a result of the same rabbinical traditions
Because the Ashkenazi didn't practice polygamy like most Muhammads in the area. That shit will ruin yoir genepool.

>>138499177
It's also because white is often equaly to caucasian or at least includes some arabs or hispanc people from Latin America (with percentage of white admixtur) especially in the US luck and the FBI Most wanted List and I dare you not to laugh, basically everything not dark brown is white.
There is some truth to the super intellegent jews myth, but it certainly isn't the hole askinazim population. In fact it's a small Club maybe 5 percent of them, those in controll. It's no wonder that they are on the top of most studys, if we take into account that roughly 60-70 percent of all intellegence Researchers are jewish. Of course they would want to put those myths out. However they are known to have some Kind of breeding programm for some centuries, but it's like i Said only the top Five percent. The top Five percent are the barrier breakers (actualy "breed" for this) and after they make it in and drag through their nepotism all the other average into any given institution/City/Country etc.

>>138496750
Superior iq is a result of the smartest jews surviving the Nazis, such as my uncle who convinced them he was German when they came to take him, and then even he demanded they return his briefcase because he was an alphajew

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>>138501053
>a jew would never lie in public
she's a kike, you fucking moron

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>>138501228
this post was cancer

>>138496750
If 107 IQ is correct, then that probably puts Ashkenazim at the same level of intelligence as urban white collar gentiles. But yes, the population of intellectually gifted whites in America would be larger than the Jewish population itself, yet Jews are 15x overrepresented in Harvard relative to their academic achievement.

As to your topic, yes, I've found TOO/TOQ/Alt Right to be discredited for a number of reasons, particularly because they shrink from dealing with age of consent and sexuality topics.

>>138499177
But Ashkenazi Jews have substantial middle-eastern admixture. But apparently middle-eastern populations have lower IQs??

>>138496750
The only flaw: he doesn't mention the Sabbatean-Frankists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqsuK8B7b4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_y0LxcANic

>>138500746
Yeah... I'm reading the interview. On what basis is she a kike? I don't get it... Jared Taylor is obviously a coward for not naming the Jew, and he's been under fire for decades because of that. That doesn't make his wife Jewish.

Accusing people of being kikes without evidence is not very productive. I don't even think Jews should be allowed in white nationalist organizations at all (Rockwell was murdered by a kike, etc). But just randomly accusing people and their spouses of being Jews without evidence is counter-productive. Is Jared's wife even a white nationalist at all? I mean, is she a politically outspoken white nationalist?

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>jews run the world
>jews are dumb

So you are telling me that whites are fooled by idiots? What does that make them? Super retarded?

>>138502340
>So you are telling me that whites are fooled by idiots?
No, they're fooled by people with similar IQs, but more organization as an ethnic group. I realize you're trying hard to sound clever, but Argentina still isn't white.

>>138501398
Stfu Ontario nigger

>>138496750
It's been a few years since I read it, but I'm pretty sure he also pointed out that Ashkenazi Jews have higer IQs - not just because of the rabbinical tradition but also (and perhaps mostly) because they were banned from other jobs in Europe so mostly stuck to usury, which requires higher IQ on average. As they were not able to practice most other professions the jews that weren't smart enough to do this mostly died out. The reason they have lower IQ on average in Israel is because of the Shepardi Jews - these are basically the dumb 'arab style' jews that never mixed with whites in Europe like the ashkenazi.

Also, what is your beef with McDonald about really? Are you annoyed because he is claiming Jews have a bigger IQ then you think they do? Or is it because you are against anti-semitism? In other words, are you a man or a cuck?

>>138496750
Umm because they selectively breed with Euros where ass semites in the ME did not. How hard is that to understand?

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>>138503092
>my uncle escaped the rollercoaster oven gas chamber electrocution machines!
We all know who is the nigger is, kikespawn. Your time will come

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>>138497559
>>138497331
>>138497053
>>138497843

Nice we should throw away every contribution Jared Taylor, Kevin MacDonald, Peter Brimelow, etc has made to White Identitarianism....

I prefer people like Mike Cernovich, Stefan Molyneux, Styx Hexenhammer, and Sargon of Akkad.

Thanks /pol/ don't know what I'd do without you guys!

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>>138503262
>shkenazi Jews have higer IQs - not just because of the rabbinical tradition but also (and perhaps mostly) because they were banned from other jobs in Europe so mostly stuck to usury
I know, you guys repeat this every 5 or 6 posts. Its a dogma around /pol/, but I'm trying to tell you the evidence isn't there.

Richard Lynn in his paper "The Intelligence of American Jews" has given a downgrading of the Jewish intelligence IQ score. He notes that earlier studies such as the Backman 1970 study were based on small samples: the number of Jewish boys was only 65. Other studies use similar small samples and have not been drawn to be nationally representative. One further study by Backman in 1972 which Lynn considers representative had sample sizes of 1236 Jews, 1051 White Gentiles, 488 Blacks and 150 Orientals.

IQs for six factors were calculated and the Jews scored: verbal comprehension factor 107-8, English language 99.5, mathematics 109.7, visual reasoning 91.3, perceptual speed and accuracy 102.2 and memory 95.1. Lynn feels that the
>"Differences in the IQs for the various abilities are so great as to raise doubts about the results,"
and he says that the verbal IQ of 107.8 is at the lower end of estimates of Jewish verbal ability - even though these other estimates are non-representative and therefore technically flawed.

See:
>Richard Lynn, "The Intelligence of American Jews," Personality and Individual Differences, (March 2003, on-line article.)
> J.G. Backman, "Youth in Transition," vol.2 (University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, 1970)
> M.F. Backman, "Patterns of Mental Abilities: Ethnic, Socioeconomic and Sex Differences," op. cit. note 9.

Ashkenazi Jews did worse than Nordic ethnic groups such as the Scots most of the 20th century:
See:
> A.M. Shuey, "Differences in Performance of Jewish and Non-Jewish Students on the American Council Psychological Examination," Journal of Social Psychology, vol.15, 1942, pp.221-243.

>>138502917

no u

>>138502917
> organization as an ethnic group
Name one white country that is disorganized

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>>138503470
>I prefer people like Mike Cernovich, Stefan Molyneux, Styx Hexenhammer, and Sargon of Akkad.
>Thanks /pol/ don't know what I'd do without you guys!
Are you whining? Is that supposed to sound salty?

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>>138503709
>Name one white country that is disorganized
Is this a joke?

JIDF always tries this nonsensical all-in-one-step dismissal and it never works. In real criticism nobody uses this. Nobody reads CoC for IQ, the whole point is that this is the best one-volume explanation of Jewish media-academic culture.

If Jews are dumb then explain Jewish scientists.
Oppenheimer, Von Neumann, Einstein, Feynman. How are there so many geniuses among such a small population?

>>138504405
The real question is why did they send the retarded kikes to Argentina?

>>138503375
Lol my uncle was never taken prisoner stupid ass. Learn to read.

>>138504405
Ever considered that they aren't smart? Ever considered that literally every (((intelligent))) Jew you mentioned and have ever thought of is a fraud? Now gtfo, kike!

>>138503270
Yeah but according to you smart guys Middle-Eastern people have a lower IQ than Europeans. Ashkenazi Jews are a Middle-Eastern admixed population.

Do you get how stupid you sound?

>>138505264
You just answered your own question and proved me right.

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>>138505136
And who did they steal from? Is the Von Neumann architechture your computer is using right now also a lie?
You can't just say "durr it's a fraud" with fuck all proof. Besides the only one out of those 4 that anyone ever even claims is a fraud is Einstein, and the claims are flimsy at best. No one calls Von Neumann a fucking fraud.

that isn't true? most IQ studies do not put the conglomerated White IQ above Ashkes. There are some isolated White groups, such as French Canadians, that get close.

>>138498369
>so why the discrepancy between Ashkenazim and Sephardics?

Your problem is that you're assuming that having rabbis around in and of itself boosts IQ whatever the initial quality of the human stock, and of the rabbis themselves. The fact is, having lived and intermarried with Europeans for millenia, the Askenazi genome is over 80% white European. The Sephardic genome derives from a Spanish people that have often intermarried with Arabs and Arab North Africans, which the Mizruhim are Arabs.

Rabbinical guidance may have uplifted all groups, but adding 10 points to the European gives you 110, adding 10 to the Spaniard gives you 100, and adding 10 to the Arab gives you 90. Add them up and average them and you get the average Israeli IQ (give or take a few points).

Also, you're assuming that all the rabbis are equally bright. The Sephardic and Mizruhim rabbis, being dumber, may not have done as good a job fostering IQ-friendly conditions.

Just as not every black you meet is dumb, not every Jew you meet is smart.

In passing, the real objection to MacDonald is not this, but his idea that groups have evolutionary strategies. Groups may engage in eugenic practices consciously, but you don't evolve _group_ behavior: genes are only passed on from individuals to individuals.

Some good discussion on the subject here: https://www.unz.com/gnxp/kevin-macdonald-answers-gnxp/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTmq9FpaRsU

SMARTEST. PEOPLE. EVER.

>>138508009
The only thing looming is her nose. Think I remember that thing on Super Sloppy Double Dare when I was a kid.

>>138507635
lol? the idea that groups have evolutionary strategies is not Kevin Macdonalds own idea its been around for almost as long as the theory of evolution. most creatures which are pack/tribe based evolve certain mental characteristics to lead them to behave in a certain way which is beneficial to their larger group and not just themselves because -those INDIVIDUALS which are in groups and evolve characteristics beneficial to the group will pass on their Genes relative to INDIVIDUALS who do not. This indisputably happens with humans.

That being said, I'm not sure Jews have really evolved traits for 'subversiveness' like he says, but it is not impossible.

>>138503547
OK mate, I really don't care that much desu. Even if they are more intelligent they are still inferior overall so it really doesn't change anything for me.

>>138497243
Hitler actually scoffed at the idea of a a Jewish state. He detested their nation without a homeland due to where their loyalties went.

He thought Israel would just be a place the major financial criminals would go to be immune from justice.

So now that they have one, the Jews in Israel have more in common with nationalists elsewhere than they do with the still-thriving border-less Jewry.

>he fell for the IQ meme
>He thinks that IQ=smart , whereas it's just the raw professional power of the brain
>He fell for the IQ=superior meme, that completely ignores military successes, art and music


The highest IQ kid in my class the most brainwashed normie normie that unquestionably swallowed every piece of propaganda the newspaper threw at him unquestionably.

Another kid was so underperforming in school T, failing two grades consecutively, that he was forced to test for IQ, that's were they found out he was apparently 120


IQ is Jew invetion to satisfy their own inferiority complex of hearing the history's cucklets

>>138501509

Well the idea is that you took a population and added a large infusion of white DNA (I heard KMac say they were at least 40% white but they look more than that to me) and then put them in a eugenics program for 2000 years. Unlike in white Christian Europe where the best and brightest joined the church and died childless, the best and brightest of their community had lots of children and their dumbest often were forced out and converted to Christianity and were absorbed into the white population. 2000 years is an incredibly long time.

On the other hand the mizrahi Jews absorbed a bunch of low iq sand nigger DNA from Arabia after the Muslims pushed west.

>>138509880

Iq is the best measure of future life outcomes. Better than socioeconomic status. It is the most accurate way to predict if a person will be successful in life or will become a failure and criminal.

It has been scientifically proven to work. It is not perfect but it is a real thing.

>>138505934
There are some allogations against von Neumann, however he certainly was a genius, who made remarkable discoveries. Having said that most of his genes are certainly from the German/Austrian minority in Hungary.

>>138496750
Israel's low IQ is almost entirely attributed to the Arab population. Furthermore, it does appear that Ashkenazi Jews probably have higher IQs than other Jewish groups.

Who are Asian Jews?

The Rabbinical tradition doesn't guarantee high intelligence, however it does provide a basis for explaining their high IQs.

>>138510331
There are some studies suggesting that Motivation and dedication measures are a little bit better in predicting monetary wealth and some mental illness (or behavioral patterns) stronger correlated with criminality, but IQ has predictive power.

>>138510703
Wrong the arabs are less than twenty percent.

>>138503709
I think the Argument is in bad faith, but I will adress it anyway. The bounds in the modern Western states are weak. For the officals it's like working at any other given company in many cases, of course organized foreigin ethnic groups can come in and quietly take over, since most people employed at the state don't really look after the state, but only for their individual intrests.

>>138496750
If you've read the book you would know it is mainly about judaism as a group survival strategy, explained in the framework of the social identity theory. high IQ is an important component but as a means to obtain resources and attaining positions of p
ower in order to ensure the survival and dominance of the jews.
In simple terms, and as the fucking title suggests, culture is the important factor here.
The high verbal iq in ashkenazim is not given a lot of space in the book, and the explanation given is one of many possibilities, it just happens to fit his theme of group evolutionary strategy perfectly well. It is not the pillar of his theory, that would be the culture.
I have read the book twice or three times and never have I got the sense that the author was giving preponderance to the question of the origins of high Ashkenazi IQ.

>>138496750
Stop bullshitting, the higher Ashkenazi IQ is well replicated and comes from a bunch of tests used as IQ proxies just as it does on regular IQ tests. Israel's lousy IQ is caused by the sephardic population being pretty dumb. Ashkenazi aren't smarter because of the rabbinical tradition theyre smarter because theyve been white collar workers for a thousand years due to the ban on christians working in finance or banking.

Youre not going to beat an enemy you don't understand, believing the Ahskenazi aren't sharp cookies is just deluding yourself that this'll be easy. It won't.

>>138497053
>burger intelligence
>mfw I realize dumb amerigoys must have called Hitler a Jewish puppet/zog plant

>>138512393
>Stop bullshitting, the higher Ashkenazi IQ is well replicated and comes from a bunch of tests used as IQ proxies

>I didn't read the thread or even research this issue much at all

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Let's just gas em to play it safe desu.

Daily reminder: any discussion of the JQ is good, even when facilitated by shills. Raising awareness of talmud-americans and the international clique is always, always good.

>>138498973
1,500 years is plenty of time to account for a rapid increase in intelligence. There is evidence that the founding population of Ashkenazi Jews experienced a severe bottleneck, featuring nothing more than a few dozen individuals. If these individuals represented an especially intelligent subset of Jews from an already smart population, you could easily see how this small group could account for a full standard deviation increase in IQ.

I think you're experiencing the problem of not wanting Jews to be smarter than whites. It's not only IQ tests but Nobel Prizes and their high representation in high IQ fields that really seals it for me.

>>138510331
>Best
Wrong

Willpower is the best predictor of life success

Your parroting back Petersons IQ masturbation of 20year old research


2010plus studies long overturned this

Yes IQ is a good indicator but the best predictor is willpower
It's fascinating really

Few know abouth this

>inb4 someone with low IQ comes and claims
Hurr IQ is not real, it's fake and not precis! Pseudoscience! In great denialist self-indulgence of IQ not being the final evidence of his idiocy.

>>138510331
>It is the most accurate way to predict if a person will be successful in life or will become a failure and criminal.
Right and wrong.
It's very accurate for predicting the success of groups, but not individuals.

> So why is Kevin MacDonald worshipped by the alt-right as a guru?

he's spencer's mentor and probably a gov agent overlooking the whole honeypot

they put you on gov watchlist if you email them

>ama

would love to see his follow up about his claims of superior jewish iq...

he wrote that book a long time ago.

wonder what he thinks/is allowed to publish in 2017?

That's because all the dumb and poor Jews got killed during the Holocaust.

t. The descendant of German Jews

>>138514104
I unironically bought a TOQ subscription a few years ago. How bad is it?