TRUMP SET TO ANNOUNCE TROOP INCREASE IN AFGHANISTAN

>>138486267

Nope, just like the climate agreement. He will pull out.

Trumps pull out game is too strong.

>>138486322
Trump has dozens of neo-cons whispering in his ear, if he announces withdrawal from Afghanistan tonight I will eat shit in public

>>138486599
You wont. You better make a post on here with video evidence.

>>138486747
Fine, but what do I do when he announces more "military advisors" or whatever sent there?

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What a fucking idiot. Eisenhower bought the boat and every fucking president since has been throwing more money into the ocean trying to get that boat seaworthy. If Trump doesn't announce that we're pulling out then he's just as dumb as the rest of them.

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>>138486267
BUSH'S THIRD TERM CONFUCKINGFERMED

Bush 3 launches Surge 2

>>138486267

good job goys. Send your children to die on the middle of some fucking desert, thousands of miles away from their home and family.

Oh! Don't forget to (((lose))) billions of dollars worth of equipment and weapons there as well.

yay, more white men dying for Israel!
I'm so glad we voted Trump! This is way better than Hillary!

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>year is 2065
>I'm now 73
>collecting SS and living off Medicare (if those programs still exist
>our 64 year in Afghanistan
>taliban control 99% of the country outside of Kabul
>1,000,000 US dead
>999999999999999999999 zillion dollars spent
>but it was all worth it in the end to turn Afghanistan (Kabul) democratic.

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>>138486267
>America first

Mmmm hmmmm.

>>138486267

My friend is about to go to boot camp, and he was told he would be going to Afghanistan later on.

i just don't care about fucking afghanistan
we have been there since i was a child, and we are still there, playing these stupid games and pretending that it is possible to get stuff done there
we should leave immediately

Wtf? A 16 year war. Trump wants to win wars not lose them. This one is unwinnable. Pull out bitch!

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>>138489674
It's over m8, neocons won after Bannon left, but even Bannon wanted "private contractors" in Afghanistan. We are fucked.

>>138489390
>>year is 2065
>collecting SS and living off Medicare (if those programs still exist

They do not.

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>itt. people who think troop surge = warmongering

We either need to pull out 100% (best option) or ensure that we have enough of a presence (ok option). Trump didn't start this war, to lay the blame on him now is absurd.

i honestly liked the PMC idea

He's doing this announcement at fort Meyers, I can't see him announcing withdrawal/ no further engagement there BUT if he did I would think about getting onboard again. It would be a huge fuck you to McCuckster and every other faggot that gets hard to the prospect of military engagement. The wall will have to start going up for real and have another /our guy/ in the WH for me to be comfy on he trump train again. If he announces the 4,000 more troops saying we're going to "finish what we started" (just like Obama did in 09) I'll know the presidency is over.

>>138490120
your maga hat is on real tight

>>138492444
muh blumfy wumpfy!

>>138486267
What exactly is the objective in Afghanistan?

If we pulled out, what would we lose? The favor of shekelshysters?

If we blitzed it, what would we win? More military contracts? What is the actual purpose of occupying Afghanistan for over a decade? Whatever narrative you prefer, Bin Laden is long dead. Isn't that "mission accomplished?"

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I miss this guy

>>138493137
:( sad

>>138486322
Ha

I figured day one that trump would stay in Iraq and Afghanistan but I just hope he doesn't put more troops in any new nations.

If obama would not have entered into Northern Africa i probably would have voted for him back in 2012.

>>138493137
I think he will get us out

Just maybe not right away or as quick as we like

>>138487596

Afghanistan isn't a desert you idiot.

Make Afghanistan America!

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>>138490120
>sending more troops isn't warmongering

What kind of bleach you drinking?

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>>138494420
>but I just hope he doesn't put more troops in any new nations.

LITTLE LATE FOR THAT M8

>>138497341
Has he done any regime change? I think not.

>>138497553
>Has he done any regime change? I think not.

Not yet, but soon

Only in for 6 months and US troops sent to Syria and Somalia without a peep from Congress.

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Why not just annex Afghanistan at this point?
We fucked up their system of government so hard that any attempt to leave will only shittier governments?

>>138495441
Afghanistan is actually the pretty awesome. Lots of mountains, and arid areas like Colorado

>>138486267
>I will do what no one in history has ever done. Not Alexander, not Ghengis Khan.
>I will conquer Afghanistan.

>>138497653
Good point. I think the global economy is going to crash soon. That is why I just want to prepare.

>>138486267
Does Trump think 4,000 Americans will do what 100k could not?

He can't pull out.

It will be Iraq 2.0 ISIS, AQ, and the Taliban will gain complete control in a matter of months and force a larger response in a couple years.

There's no good choice, but we can't leave now

>30 days to defeat ISIS

Sooooooooo..................................................where are we with that?

>>138497653
The fear now is India vs china right? I can see why we need to be there but still I would rather not be.

>>138486267
I see from this pic that Trump uses salt on an already very high sodium Kentucky Fried Chicken. Which means Trump may have high blood pressure.

>>138498743
>t. Neocon
We are going to lose Afghanistan whether in 1 day or 10 years.

>>138498743
Will Afghanistan make us go bankrupt.

>>138498886
He will lose reelection 100% if he pulls out and the country falls.

The neocons will win and nothing will change.

it's not that simple

>>138498743
We funded Isis.... the pullout obama did failed because we backed the bad guys.

>>138498909
20tril in debt. You make up your mind on that issue.

>>138499311
It does not matter. Afghanistan will be lost. As soon as we leave, the Taliban will take over the country in in six months. Trump is not going to get reelected due to Afghanistan.

>>138498732
4d chess?

Go near any military base and see all the people with prosthetic limbs, terrible burns and scars, and then look at how many military people kill themselves after coming home from there. None of it was worth it and we are never going to win anything over there. Trump knows this he has said this and if he continues on with the war pigs game plan he can go to hell. Good night and God bless America.

>>138486267
He better fucking not.

>>138499536
Afghanistan is not even a functioning state ha. Your comment shows you know nothing about the region.

>>138499587
Yes. The goatfuckers who are in the most difficult terrain in the world, and who defeated the Soviets and now the Americans will get BTFO by Trump

>>138498886

Not if we have Mattis at the helm

>>138498250
Lots of beheadings, rape, explosions, tribal disputes, disease, clitorectomies, honor killings, death, and goats too.

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>>138499536

Yeah, just like Bush and Obama didn't, you fucking retard.

>>138499766
You are retarded. Seriously. That is why Afghanistan will fall.

>>138499730
Pretty much this. I'll give trump 3 years like I did obama.

>>138486267
God fucking damn it I hate Trump so much.

He has gotten completely cucked and assimilated by the Globalists and the establishment. I warned the entire time that this would happen, and you all called me CTR and "shill" and all of that BS, but now it turns out I was right all along.

Trump is a lying, backstabbing NY-kike real estate shyster who has betrayed every single campaign promise he ever ran on.

Hoping this mirrors the Korea strategy: flex some muscles then gtfo

>>138486267
another campaign promise fulfilled. Thank god we elected a globalist like Trump.

>>138499863
Fall to what? A more of a cursed land? Again what was the goal in Afghanistan? We changed the mission like 3 times already.

>>138499797
He didn't win Afghanistan when he was a general.
>>138499848
We have not left Afghanistan. /ptg/ should really learn what the fuck they are talking about. Iraq had a lower murder rate than Mexico, and turned into a complete shithole in three years. Your (((nation building))) does not work.

>>138487596
>>138487415
>>138487291

Afghanistan is not Iraq. Trump is trying to uncluster the fucking mess that Obama left by pulling out troops too early.

It's better we spend another ten years there and have it be somewhat of a success story than just make it a legacy of US foreign inetervention incompetetance

>>138500033
Taliban control, what it was before we invaded.

>>138499931
What was the other option? If obama would not have ended it than no one would have.

McCain was correct, this is a 100 year war.

>>138486267

Troop numbers don't mean shit, it's the strategy. What is he planning with these extra troops? There's around 5'000 already with an additional 8'000 NATO troops. What the fuck is an extra 4'000 going to do, guard Opium fields?

>>138499777
wew lad

I guess so

R.O.E. BTFO

>>138486267
What a cuck

>>138497653
>Only in for 6 months and US troops sent to Syria and Somalia without a peep from Congress.

He inherited that.

>>138500185
this is what nationalist retards like obama don't get. You can't just focus on your own country. Globalists like Trump are making us win again.

>>138500214
The people had it better under the taliban then America.

America fucked up the farmers and created mass starvations.

Again Afghanistan is a tribal state.

>>138500420
The Taliban is a proxy of the ISI.

>>138500504
That America created ha.

>>138500504

So do we stay there forever? What exactly is the trigger point for leaving? When there aren't terrorists in the Middle East?

>>138500394

Being short sighted is not focusing on your own country. It's being irresponsible.

>>138486267
Reminder that troops in Afghanistan essentially mean troops towards the Chinese border and the passageway to support India.

Expect some serious shit to go down if the India - China conflict escalates.

>>138500676
100 year war "john McCain"

>>138486322
Tell that to his kids.

>>138500681
We don't need to focus on America, Trump understands that what we need is to be intervening militarily throughout the world.

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STEVE BANNON IS A ZIONIST WHO INVENTED THE TERM ALT LITE

>>138493639
such many cases

>>138500682
This is my thinking to.

>>138500676
The terrorists you talk about are funded by wealthy, regionally powerful countries (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Pakistan). That is how they fight their wars. We have no reason to be over there other than petrodollar. Just like in Vietnam, it is a losing fight.

If he goes with continued engagement, he has to wipe out opium production, too. It weakens the enemy on more fronts, faster.

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>mfw Trump announces a surge in PMC's in Afghanistan

I thought he does not announce plans?

>>138500420
>The people had it better under the taliban then America.

Apart from the AfPak border provinces, most people in Afghanistan disagree with your outsider expertise.

>>138500632
Thanks for your great info ops to brainwash western college kids, Ivan.

>>138500682
>Reminder that troops in Afghanistan essentially mean troops towards the Chinese border and the passageway to support India.

A few thousand troops positioned and equipped for mission specific COIN would be of next to fuck all use to cross the border into China. Expecially when you entire Divisions set up for that kind of task sitting in South Korea and Japan.

>>138486267
I've been away for a few days. Why is Trump threatening to invade Afghanistan again?

If he's that retarded then I'm off the Trump Train. What is so attractive about that hell hole to neocohens? Its just a bunch of sandstone occupied by 8th century shepherds

>>138501035
Also if people would study Muhammad and Islamic text people would realize there is no way any of these nations will be our friends.

We should just frack more and try to spread Americanism in Central America.

>>138501290
>138501290
questioning Trump is treason you cuckold.

>>138501259
You are telling me it is fun getting bombed at by America on a daily bases?

Also it is cool having thugs that harass you funded by America to be a good thing?

Omg you are so blue pilled ha!

>>138500185
>legalize pot in US
>import pure Afghan Kush to placate stupid liberals
>import pure Afghan poppies, dominate world market on medical opiates
>Subjugate the Chinese again by flooding them with tons of opium
>Corner the market of poppy seeds for bagels to price gauge Jewish bakeries and delis

All this talk surrounding this and not a word has come out about Trump talking to Ashraf Ghani. I assume he's talked to the Afghan president but is there a chance he hasn't?

Does he have to?

>>138501290
It's all about India/china.

>>138501413
So what is there to gain in Afghanistan at the moment? What's changed in the last 3 or 4 days, is the mastermind behind truck of peace attack number 559009878934 holed up in a cave somewhere or what?

>>138486267
how do you eat kfc with a fork?

>>138501699
Trump says its a good idea. You think you're smarter than him? don't make me laugh you fucking shill.

>No wall, nor a realistic plan for one
>Bannon fired
>No increase in deportations of illegals
>No Immigration reform
>Warmongering non stop after running as a anti-war canidate
>America first but increased foreign aid
>Demanded Obamacares removal but offered no alternate healthcare plan of his own
>Signed anti-Russia bills and claimed Russia did meddle in the election after saying they didnt for months
>Appointed family members with no experience in key positions, and always sides with them (Bannon firing)
>Shilled for the Jew in Israel more than any prior president has ever done

Anyone got anymore?

>>138501699
Indian border patrol threw some rocks at some chinks and now we are here.

>>138501999
Gotcha, I remember reading about that. Damn, I never noticed Afghanistan actually shared a small border with China

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>what was hiding behind the ecplypse

so it wasn't the ayys, it was the oyys

OY VEY! MAKE ISRAEL GREAT AGAIN!!!1!11

>>138501965
like we need anymore. Just 2 or 3 fpoints rom your list should be enough. If some people still believe in him after all of that, they will believe in him even if the list will grow up another 20 points.

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Mattis is in charge.

Instead of pussy-footing around for 16 years like Bush and Obama did, it's very likely that we'll see a decisive victory and pull out of almost all warfare personnel, leaving Afghanistan in a similar position to South Korea.

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> WTF, I HATE 2015 TRUMP NOW!

That's a full year before he was even elected and way before he won his first primary. You guys may disagree but that's a consistent position on his part

>>138503475
This is why I'll give trump 3 years. I feel he does have smarter people running the show.

I mean Donald Rumsfeld was the guy in charged during the invasion of Afghanistan. That really says a lot.

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>>138503475
>we'll see a decisive victory and pull out of almost all warfare personnel, leaving Afghanistan in a similar position to South Korea.
Even reading 2ch for 9 years haven't prepared me for this idiot.

>>138503756
Also, the talk is 4000 extra troops, not a full 100 000 troops surge like Obama did

>>138503756
If I was in his position I would give it a few years. I would love to do a complete pull out but I think it would create more negatives in the short run.

That being said what would break my faith in trump if he goes into Iran or after Assad.

>>138503897
The 4K is just to show force to china and India. Imagine how bad it would be if we left Afghanistan and china and India went to war a few years later.

>>138503999
>if he goes into Iran
I'm not seeind Trump going "into Iran" but he is openly hostile to Iran his whole campaign. If you aren't aware I can fetch the articles mentioning it, including how he would solve the "kidnapping" of American personnel (not paying a planeload in unmarked cash) or provocation at the persian gulf (shooting across the bow)

> or after Assad.
That he won't be going after for sure. He had the chance in a moment he could pull a Bush but didn't.

>>138486322
That's what she said.

>>138503785
thats a cute ragdoll

>WAHHH I HATE WAR
Sound like a bunch of liberal fucking pussies from the 70s

>>138504328
I am very aware, but I think he was just doing his New York act pertaining to Iran talks.

>>138504713
I hate paying for dumb shit.

>>138492987
>What exactly is the objective in Afghanistan?
Control the global heron production with the added benefit of a military buffer against Iran. The big, bad Taliban, like ISIS, is a front and partially funded by America.

>>138486267
God damn it, I'm sick of the fucking answer being "send more people to Afghanistan." Literally no reason.

I was never even a big Trump guy, but even I expected more from him.

>>138504328
>including how he would solve the "kidnapping" of American personnel (not paying a planeload in unmarked cash)
We got fucked in that deal, he has every right to call it out. Also made Obama look like more of an idiot because his statement kept ransom payment in the news.

>>138486267
Not much else he can do. Complete pull out and Afghanistan turns into a second Iraq.
I remember cheering when Obama pulled out of Iraq, a year later ISIS popped up.

>>138508478
(((popped up)))

>>138508478
Afganistan is the opium field of the world. It still produces most of the worlds opium with all the military hardware stationed there.
All the members of nato and shit.
I wouldn't mind if they burned the opium fields at least. It would be good target practice for the rookies. If not the occupation is nothing but insincere.
Afganistan occupation is the opium wars of our time. All but in name.

>>138486267
So he may announce a ramp up in troops .

He may also pull a big surprise rabbit out of the hat during the nationally televised address announcing indictments on some criminals.

>>138509600
Our ardent wish. I hope that is the case anonbro.
If he declares an increase in military intervention he will add nothing but fuel to the mobs that are searching for any excuse to hate him more.

>>138486967
You can't pull out and just let the Taliban take over again shithead.

>>138486599
Screencapped. You better get some tic tacs ready.