Syria General /sg/- Aerial Bombardment Edition

>>138442227
keep dreaming my little bird friend. you'll never get revenge for your anzac buddies xd

northern syria is ours soon inshallah

Update from Bolandi bro,
>>138382216
>Aug 19

Suheil "Tiger" al-Hassan honored for the operation of closing the Akarabat Kotel by Russian general Gerasimov:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-UOWXc_9PA [Embed] [Embed]
>https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-russian-commanders-present-suheil-al-hassan-sword/
>http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3621280.html

Information about joint operation of RF, Iran and Turkey (Astana guarantors) assaulting Nusra in Idleb together has popped up
Russians from Latakia, Iran from Aleppo and Turks from their border. Supposedly.

Terrorists violated the ceasefire in eastern Ghouta, targeting residental districts:
>http://sana.sy/ru/?p=117518

Syrian TV News Aug 19:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tObFfLm-qNw [Embed] [Embed]

Sana General updates:
>http://sana.sy/en/?p=112164
>http://sana.sy/ru/?p=117475

Second day of International Fair in Damas, all hotels booked, lot more people came than expected:
>http://sana.sy/ru/?p=117482

Russian & Syrian bussinessmen were talking in Damas:
>http://sana.sy/ru/?p=117513

The supposed attack in Latakia (claimed by Nusra) was an accident, a civilian had a granade with him (supposedly people carry them around for self defence, sic!) and it exploded killing 2 others:
>https://ria.ru/syria/20170819/1500688374.html

SDF captured factory of IEDs in Raqqa:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNhsSvu23yc [Embed] [Embed]

Biggest cable-factory in Damas started working again after a few years:
>https://ria.ru/syria/20170819/1500673937.html

IS terrorists tried to break the encirclement of Akarabat, Nusra coordinated with them by launching mortar and missile strikes on Army positions (interesting, short-wave radios?)
Thanks to Russian drone monitoring they were not succesful and RuAF dealt with both of these:
>http://free-news.su/voennye-konflikty/22492-vks-rf-predonvratili-proryv-vozle-akerbata
>http://rusvesna.su/news/1503135622

>138442661
Continued
>>138382262
Aug 20

Most important part about Assad's speech today was:
>Turkey is a guarantee of terrorists, not peace process in Syria
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cyUznVnrcg
>https://ria.ru/syria/20170820/1500723582.html
>https://ria.ru/syria/20170820/1500721351.html
>http://sana.sy/ru/?p=117587
>http://sana.sy/en/?p=112238

Terrorists from east Ghouta targeted the International Fair in Damas, 4 killed, 4 wounded:
>https://ria.ru/syria/20170820/1500717207.html
>https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-rebel-rocket-attack-syrias-biggest-festival-kills-4/

Syrian TV News Aug 20
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77FJKUFduJ4

In the International Fair, economical future of the country was discussed:
>http://sana.sy/ru/?p=117616

Zinki tried to kill Nusra leaders in Idleb... And a Russian drone filmed it:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3K1BBLM2pQ

Iranians drop medicine and food for besieged Fua & Kefraya:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXaA872Y02s

OIR air sortie on Tigers still unconfirmed:
>https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-us-coalition-bombs-syrian-army-near-isil-lines-southern-raqqa-unconfirmed/

RuAF targets Akarabat non-stop:
>https://**.com/video-76669927_456243269
>https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-enclave-eastern-hama-diminishing-syrian-army-takes-territories/

Humaymah captured:
>https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-army-close-liberating-strategic-east-homs-town/
>https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-advances-isis-east-homs-2/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8_t3uIBwuQ [Embed] [Embed]

US concentrates it's forces for DeZ campaing:
>https://inforeactor.ru/95938-podgotovka-k-shturmu-deir-ez-zora-ssha-styagivayut-sily-specnaz-uzhe-pribyl

IS tooks significant casualties in DeZ:
>https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-suffers-heavy-losses-deir-ezzor-city-syrian-army-strikes-back/

>red pill must watch videos

American senator tell the other side of the story: https://youtu.be/0FNtEWfay_8
>Ron Paul https://youtu.be/LULzvg1gA5U | https://youtu.be/fbEMlqrhlSg
Virginia senator on Aleppo: https://youtu.be/VfyDgDTu0Go
>UN Neutral report on "War Crimes" in Syria: https://youtu.be/Yc-RmAVK8Pg
Syria: Not a Revolution: https://youtu.be/8prwbWLa7f0

===
"Chemical attacks" in Khan Shiekoun on April 4
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/67182.html
>Assad: Chemical Attack Fabrication https://youtu.be/_pGAcv-cvA4

===
>THE TRUTH ABOUT White helmets:
https://youtu.be/8aAaReVn2I4
https://youtu.be/Es7oBV6b43Y
https://youtu.be/tseqwNIXhDQ
https://youtu.be/792ODrhwKkk
White helmets killing a child for UN https://youtu.be/9nj6fc69qjM
Staging CW attack videos https://youtu.be/8LnVHw96jFs

===
>What's REALLY Happening in Syria (by SyrianGirlPartisan): https://youtu.be/OJZRvp6w4wc
Syria ambassador in USA: https://youtu.be/U3LTTbOYVfU
Women under Bashar https://youtu.be/_S_zmlDuGKU
>The Face of American Regime Change: https://youtu.be/T634A6AWR9c
Assad visits monastery for Christmas: https://youtu.be/aG_SutViEmQ
Soldier met family after 5 years: https://youtu.be/zHoeU9mZ1Xss
>Canadian Journalist Expose The Lies of Syria: https://youtu.be/tmNnZ-3JmSo
===
NGO’s and hybrid warfare: https://youtu.be/ro1byfe5vUM
===
WikiLeaks: Turkish oil minister links to Isis oil trade
- wikileaks.org/berats-box/article
Top aide to Hillary Clinton: :Al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria
- wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225
===
>SJWs cuckmarch(riding in my Volkswagen van everyday) from Germany to Aleppo
https://youtu.be/L2A3KidIhe8 [Embed]
Progress: 5 left out of 3000+ at the start.
Journey ended in Lebanon as they did not want to ask for visas from Sy Gov.
===

Thread reminder to watch Threads.
https://vimeo.com/18781528

https://youtu.be/t98PD6KCg2Q

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>>138442608
>wanting more k*rds and araps in your country
JUST

>Venezuela update by US bro:
>>138346905 →

https://pastebin.com/rX4yfygz
Death Toll: 153+ (inc. prison)

*Constituent assembly takes all powers from congress
*Former AG Luisa Ortega and Husband flee country, head to Columbia
*Swiss companies pulling out of Vz
*Venezuelan soldiers announce rebellion against Maduro
*"[If you are not with opposition, you are a military target]"
>new attorney general (replaced Luisa Ortega) vows to jail protest leaders
>protestors face 25 years in jail
>maduro visits cuba, pays respects to Fidel
>Thieves stealing animals from zoo, likely for food
>at least 37 people dead in venezuelan prison after shootout
>Maduro alleged to issue order to military to prepare for US invasion
>latin american leaders urge against military intervention
>Maduro's son threatens to take over white house
>CIA director warns that Vz could threaten the US:
>"...Russians are there, the Iranians, Hezbollah are [in Vz]"
>Trump wouldn't rule out military intervention last friday
>Rubio may have been target of Vz assassination plot (we tom clancy now)
>Pence says even more sanctions being considered
>Credit Suisse (intl. bank) bans trading on two Vz bonds
>Rosneft, russia continue to purchase oil and assets from PDVSA
>US oil companies lobbying congress to stop/prevent ban on Vz oil.
>Venezuela no longer part of SA trading bloc MERCOSUR
>AG Luisa ortega barred from entering her office, effectively ending her job
>"terrorist attack" repelled by Vz military at Fort Paramacay
>oil sanctions likely to force eventual Vz default on bonds
>third party tech. corp says assembly vote illegitimate
>Jeremy Corbyn attacks US over sanctions, hasn't denounced Maduro
>Maduro denies claims of voter fraud
>US benchmark for oil dropped below $50 per barrel yesterday
>Venezuela's foreign minister accuses CIA, US of organizing violent demonstrations and supporting opposition
>Venezuelan bonds drop to 1 yr low as Maduro rejects sanction threat

goood mooorning /sg/

having done about 20 minutes of research on google I get the impression that the russians have not drafted any resolutions for the security council to make their case on Syria, they've only reacted when the west has drafted theirs. Why not just make the west say "no, we don't want you to fight Al-Qaeda" to make the point? i there a logic here that I'm missing?

>>138442872
Extended Venezuela update, by confederate anon.
>>138382789
>Constituent assembly takes all powers from Congress (interpreted to refer to National Assembly).
Not quite. They will only veto any legislation they don't like -- effectively the same thing, but the National Assembly is still operational, despite the fact new legislation is now being passed by the Constituent Assembly.

You should probably include CA legislative acts from here.

venezuelanalysis.com/news/13319
ANC (Spanish backwards adjective ordering for National Constituent Assembly) passes new legislation outlawing hate crime -- including crimes based on race, religion, LGBTshit, and political affiliation.

Race and religion will probably benefit Maduro's GPP due to the mestizo and Protestant bases of the coalition as a whole, while LGBTshit is obviously a token measure to appease MUD. Political affiliation will likely be used as a pretense to crack down on anti-GPP violence.

venezuelanalysis.com/news/13317
ANC orders end to Maduro-controlled executive branch's use of military tribunals against insurgents.

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>>138442924
morning fritz

DPRK update by Irish bro,
>>138349265
>Ahead of US/ROK military drills (Ulchi-Freedom Guardian begins Aug. 21st), DPRK states that "reckless behaviour driving the situation into uncontrollable phase of nuclear war"[1]
>ROK Defense Minister and US military official agreed today to step up joint efforts to counter DPRK threat[2]
>Governor of largest ROK province calls for tactical nukes and own nuclear development program to prep for decline in US deterrence[3]
>Japan conducts warning drills in Western regions over DPRK missile threats[4]
>DPRK warns of "catastrophe" if US/ROK military drills go ahead[5]
>DPRK tells UN chief that nuclear program is not up for negotiation[6]
>ROK Defense Minister to head to Washington to speak with Mattis over DPRK threat[7]
>President Moon of ROK says he is considering sending a special envoy to DPRK to improve inter-Korean relations[8]
>Tillerson/Mattis insist that military options remain for DPRK[9]
>Troop count for UFG exercises: 50,000 ROK troops, 17,500 US troops (in 2016 it was 25.000), ~3,000 overseas troops.[10]

[1]http://archive.is/KVqSx
[2]http://archive.is/KqG4m
[3]http://archive.is/lYvtk
[4]http://archive.is/Oq5Qp
[5]http://archive.is/WWDcG
[6]http://archive.is/19Wf9
[7]http://archive.is/JXIJh
[8]http://archive.is/aDH9k
[9]http://archive.is/Mv05K
[10]http://archive.is/JwvRi

>>138442854
theres never enough brown people. we imported 3 million syrians, we'll dethrone you as the cuck kings soon.

>>138442924
Good morning Hans.

>>138442954
politics is hard and politicians are lazy. They get to work when they really need to(often not even then or when lobby writes policy for them. Otherwise they always got eh path of least resistance

>>138442924
Morning Hans

>>138443058
>implying the mad sultan isnt using the Syrians as tool to threaten Europe with.
I know that erdomeme does some stupid shit but the nigga can be a real player when he takes his meds.

>>138442954
They already pointed out that the US-coalition wouldn't differentiate between le "moderate" rebels and literally al-Qaida with a face lift.

>>138442357
>Tfw DPRNZ and first Australaisan Reich soon
>DPRNZ
iirc u can choose to play as that in hoi4

>>138443237
I had, probably in my head and by my own bias, come to the belief that the west had blocked Russian support to Assad in the security council, but I found no proof of that. In fact, I found no proof of Russia initiating anything in the security council at all.

The thing I've been after is I get the impression that Russias hands were tied until 2013-14. but you tie other big players' hands in the security council, afaik, and that hasn't happened

Pray for me, /sg/, my pc has crashed innumerable times and I'm on the line with the 2nd customer support agent and a fresh install of windows

>>138443478
The council is a meme anyways.

What happened to Ebin?

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>#Damage #US USS #McCain
https://twitter.com/Edward_Sn0wden/status/899525893319778305
>10 sailors missing, 5 injured after USS John S. McCain collided with Alnic MC.
https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/899439867184111616
1/3

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>>138443058

>>138443756
he dood

>>138443653
yea it's... like the US suggested a draft making it impossible to import weapons into Syria in 2012, while they were they hard at work doing exactly that. I guess the game is mostly played around it. Still have a lot of research to do I guess, trying to understand why Russia let the war almost look losable for a while, why they havent gone in harder earlier. Maybe it's the propaganda situation where doing so would have given the world even more excuses for sanctions due to the whole "moderate rebellion" thing.

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>>138443776
2/3

>>138443796
Kys hans

>>138443860
I think Ukraine was the turning point.

>>138443874
3/3
And the vessel that collided with the USS McCain. The Alnic MC

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>>138443958
forgot pic

>>138443935
I tried

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Good morning niggers.

>>138444102
>t. reza al neetbuxy

>>138443874
>>138443776
yeah, those dudes got crushed. There's no way that they got washed out to sea. Whoever was in control of the ship is a fucking retard for playing fast and loose in a busy as shit sea lane

>>138443957
that's when they went full "fuck all of this"?

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>>138444017
one day insh'allah
for srs tho ohpe youre doing well you jerry fuck

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>>138444102
so is the ayatollah like a monarch plus theocracy
like it just came to me...
what sort of powers does an ayatollah have? like constitutionally?

>>138444210
Yeah.
>>138444182
These crashes are intentional, the MIC wants to build shiny new boats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwjDwt5m3w

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>>138444340
>what sort of powers does an ayatollah have?
Supernatural Powers.

>>138444102

Please post with your location for a second so I can save your flag for my new collection as my old one got lost.

>>138443776

John McCain killing more US troops

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>>138444178
>t. reza al neetbuxy
>reza
>al

>>138444182
What the hell is going on? this is the second one in two months. And fourth ship in a year that has collided.

>>138444102
Hello my farsi speaking friend

>>138445029
see
>>138444635

>>138442385
is that a barrel

>>138444923
says the guy living in arab clay

>>138444017
try harder then faggot

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>>138445029
Hi pakibro. genocide of smelly ind*ans by muslims when?

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>>138445140
looks a bit like the stereotypical ww2 meme bomb from the movies t b h white friend

>>138443237
i think the question was why the russians are not flooding the UN with one-sided-meme tier resolutions like the us, uk and france.

>>138443776
>>138443874
>>138443958
why the fuck is the US navy so prone to collusion?
First the stuff at Japan and now this.

Funny it hit McCaincer...why the hell do they name ships after living senators though?!

>>138445670
Russians have dignity.

>>138445297
Soon. Enjoy this kung fu battle between India and China in Ladakh in the meantime
https://twitter.com/ThePrintIndia/status/898871876813967361

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>https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/899544095873478656

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>>138445623
>a*g*nt*n*ans
>white

so whats gonna happen to idlib

>>138445693
>why the hell do they name ships after living senators though?!
iirc the USN did it special for him because "muh vietnam hero fighting dem gommies"

>>138445693
>why the hell do they name ships after living senators though?!

Muh POW most likely

>>138445727
dignity and honor are the fastest way to loose against someone that doesn't uphold such standards

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>>138444849

>>138445693
they expected him to be dead by the time the new name was approved
:^)

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>me irl

>>138445744
That's the footage of the intercepted convoy. Damn it was a blow to IS operational capabilities in the region.

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>>138445831

p-plz

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>>138445879
Young Majoosi

>>138445879
need to be eighteen to post

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>>138445729
>chinks and poos killing each other

>>138444849
>>138445929
>He hasn't already captured all the flags
Newfag pls lurk more before posting or GTFO.

>>138446105

I already said I lost mine.

>>138445779
Rumors of a Joint Russia-Iran-Turk op against Idlibistan in the works.
https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/898915587975503872
https://twitter.com/badly_xeroxed/status/898927128930009089

>>138442661
>>138442738
>>138442844
>>138442872
>>138443033
Thank you lad! Great to have these updates on top of the bread!

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Some new gains, this time it was made by the ISIS hunters
>I thought they were primarily a guerilla force???
Anyway, back to my story,
The Syrians are saying that they estimate that it will take 2-3 months to clear the pocket completely.
That seems conservative to me.

>>138446000
>>138446035
I found a video of this kid giving a lecture about women.
He's obviously a product of wahhabis.
https://youtu.be/HLxnRG8vX3k

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>>138446178
This, Penguinistan is truly one of the best of us.

>>138446303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBdWEhaggNs

>>138443776
It's new incident or the one from month ago?

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>>138446518

New

>>138446550

This gif is exploitable, Assad and Putin could be in the car, the 3 walkers could be FSA / Nusra / ISIS, the cops America and Israel etc.

Shame I don't know how to do anything.

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>>138446518
A new one. It's almost like the ship got brain cancer or something.

>>138443776
For fuck's sake, what kind of crass incompetence is this ? How do you get two destroyers heavily damaged in similar collisions in less than two months ?

>>138446668
i think it's voluntary so the MIC can seize a new contract

>>138446668
looks like the old lighthouse joke abut the us navy is true. i guess they wanted the tanker to put in full reverse so they could pass...

i really can't understand how something like this can happen... completly avoidable if they follow procedures.

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>>138446841
It does make sense, either this and tasty contracts, or just plain stupidity and incompetence. Don't know what is worse, after all taxpayers fund these cretins.

>>138446178
Np bolandi bro. If you are going to repost the info the next thread please do fix the emebed poblem, I missed it the last time and didnt fix it.

>>138446904
or maybe China is testing radar/sonar scrambler in this region or testing some sort of gps scrambler that is being developed by russia
but again it's not submarines so they are supposed to navigate with visual when in this situation

>#Breaking #France #Marseille
At least 1 dead and 1 injured in Marseille after car crashes into bus shelters, driver arrested.
https://twitter.com/MrKyruer/status/899560165950836736
Here we go again

>>138444340
>ayatollah
is just a clerical rank,Khamenei isn't just just an ayatollah, he's the highest jurist, it's this position which gives him power
There hundreds of ayatollahs but only on Master jurist in Iran
>monarch
no, he is chosen by a counsel
>what sort of powers does an ayatollah have?
issuing religious decrees to his followers and that's it, but an ayatollah like Sistani, who has a large following, can mobilize armies like the PMU
>like constitutionally?
Depends on the country

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Good morning crew!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wioCKYGMpw
>Also, that escalated quickly!

>>138446963
Sure lad, if I'm still around by than I'll do it!
>>138447091
Doubt it honestly. Earlier I didn't thought about this, but your thesis they did it on purpose just to sign a new contract as a consequence of shipyard over-investement or military industry crying for no contracts really makes sense.

>>138447201
Anyone is even surprised at this point? Really...

>>138447091
The crew of a ship can literally see another ship that is just over the horizon line, that's how far they can fucking see

>>138447297
Hello WiC bro, enjoy some fresh Russian airstrikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_D8mj9jVKc

from jpost
>Erdogan says Turkey and Iran discussing joint action against Kurdish militants

https://archive.is/bxht9

>>138447276
You've explained it rather well, nothing to add, thanks.
What is your opinion of Hatwa of pro-Saddam tribes organized by US after his death? Did it help in creation of IS?

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THERE

Wacha fink

I hope I didnt miss any glaring mistakes

>>138447276
I always thought the Supreme cleric was selected for life and his words were final in regards to any judgement.

>>138447516
same story from reuters
https://archive.is/Qt2ws

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>>138447549
lel, perfect

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>>138447549
glad to see we're well represented

>>138447091
no, it's really avoidable.
If you've been to sea only in the beginning you might struggle and then you are supervised(hopefully).
After that it becomes second nature to be wary.
This can only happen with crass negligence

>>138447371
i am... nearly everyday a happening but that thing that really worries me are people like the guy in spain that horded gas cylinders.

>>138447549
i'm pretty sure snus is whiter

>>138447549
lol so true

>>138447549
beautiful

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>>138447516
>>138447594

Oh no the American plan is scuppered.

>>138446300
Source? Cant find this on their twitter or fb..
>2-3 months
nah, the syrian high command said 1 month less than a week ago

Ah, McCain "the wreck" is not refering to McCaincer but to his daddy and grandpa who were admirals

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>>138447516
>>138447594
So its confirmed now. There really is a joint Russian-Iran-Turk op being prepared against the Idlib durkas.

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>>138447968

>naming a ship after someone who surrendered to the enemy

>>138446300
>ISIS hunters
>I thought they were primarily a guerilla force???
Arent they part of the 5th Legion

But burgers should really be concerned about the state of their navy.
The idea of
>duhh, if we were in a war our sailors would actually look around and be on alert
is a delusion.
The best equipment doesn't help if your sailors wreck it at any given chance.

>>138448086
Yes, they are indeed. Regular storm troops inside the 5th.

>>138448125
I think a part of it is they spend all their lives stationed in shitholes doing nothing, generation after generation. the discipline is deteriorating. that's what I think anyways.

>>138448232
You can allow that in desert shithole were the worst that happens is some locals who get raped.
But on sea people die if your let negligence rule

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>Afrin is not PYD :DD

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>End definitely not PKK :DD

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Was in a store yesterday and saw this, had a good laugh and snapped a pic to share with you lads.

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>>138448395
we did it reddit

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>>138446300
>it will take 2-3 months to clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxt1TXs0v7E

>>138448444
Checeked

>>138448490
It's true it's full of villages, no idea how many civilians are left there, probably only ones knowing the estimate are Russians through drone monitoring, but 2-3 months is a VERY safe estimate, I don't think it will take longer than a month honestly. Meteorit wouldn't come in handy there, villages are far away from each other

>>138447517
>Hatwa
???
anyway, if you remember, the US paid them millions to stop sheltering Al-Qaeda and when Malki took over and refused to continue bribing them, ISIS happened
>>138447571
true, but that doesn't make him a monarch

>>138445693
it was named after his Father and Grandfather (John S. McCain Sr. and Jr.), who were Admirals in the USN

>>138443776
>american navy ships (i'm also counting the incident before) get massive damage
>civillian tanker ships practically fine
american ships must be made like american made cars.

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>>138448395

Did you put it into the fiction section?

>>138448657
>true, but that doesn't make him a monarch
I think the early middle ages "monarchy" in Sweden worked that way (source: Cruisader Kings 2). When the king died the nobility voted among themself. They call it "elective monarchy".

>>138447942
>https://twitter.com/WarfareWW/status/899561188417208320

Sorry for the late reply.
Yeah, 1 sounds more accurate.

>>138449096

>Did you put it into the fiction section?
It already was, the book next to it was "Israel; Is It Good For The Jews?"

>>138449100
Elective monarchy works kind of different, there wasn't a unified system for the whole world at the times, for example in early Sweden - regency council chosen among themselves, in Crown (Poland) it was nobility with the right to vote, choosing the monarch. It's worth a notice that there isn't just one type of "elective monarchy" and every country had it's own variation of it.
>>138448657
I mean the Sunni sentiment, weapon deals, intelligence helping them. I don't know if Maliki did good or bad, but the efect was de facto the Caliphate.

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>NEW MAP: #SAA +allies liberated #Humaymah, #Tayyibah and sev. other locations in order to create a second #ISIS pocket in central #Syria.
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/899570571918405632

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>>138449267

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>>138447942
>>138449199
That shit is almost empty
Watch that Gopro video of the last advances there, they enter towns and gas fields totally abandoned, not a single soul.

They were running away to DeZ to die under that airstrike russian did yesterday

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>>138449323
>Al-Bolandi is a good goy

At what point will they stop giving evacuations to IS. They need to boil these kotels because there is no longer any place to dump the scum where they wont immediately be in conflict again

>>138449544
Wrong, that's the desert in this area
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.167073&lon=38.599091&z=10&m=b&gz=0;381960296;351412481;5822753;157203;5822753;157203;4023742;2589966;4010009;2589966;0;2321264;27465;336826;5850219;0

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>aL-bOlAnDi iS a gOoD gOy

>>138449601
One of the best things they can do is make them leave the ockets and either bomb them enroute to DeZ or let them gather along the euphrates where they can face them head on and not on multiple fronts scattered around the Syrian desert.
Also that ID
>/MyOldGa

>>138449601
From tactical point of view they're doing it just fine. Closing these Kotels faster (that is if the militants left) will free an immense amount of troops.

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>>138449788
>>aL-bOlAnDi iS a gOoD gOy
cHeCkEd

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>>138449788
HUGE IF TRUE

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>>138449601
I'd recommend giving green busses to AAS militants but not ISIS or HTS (who should be killed).
The reason for this is that the balance of power in Idlib in heavily in favour of HTS. Therefore, pouring in more AAS militants will hopefully balance things out and keep the infighting going for longer.

>>138449914
Also this, perfect example 200 IS militants dead in the RuAF air raid. The encirclements force them to transfer the troops, instead of small units hiding in caves or villages, they're often found in open field and than it's Su-25 fun for the whole family.

These lazy, selfish Peshmergas should launch Hawijah offensive right now, when Tal Afar is going on. It would speed up removing IS from Iraq significantly.

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>>138449601

Keep running them around until they run out of fuel.

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>>138450151
>and than it's Su-25 fun for the whole family
I almost lost my snus pouch laughing

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This movie came on tv, seems redpilled

>>138450339
I thought they said that they want PMU to take that territory and has no intention of launching an offensive there.
I might be wrong.

>>138450339
>Giving kurds more land

LOL no

>>138450339
>Kurds
>Doing the right thing
Pick one m8

>>138450456
very good film.

>>138450357

Issam channeling Leningrad with that PPSH there

>>138450472
Kind of make sense, since there's barely any K*rds living there, anyway they could liberate it and hand it over to the government, IS is the common enemy. I guess you're right tho
>>138450529
Peshmerga are slightly above PYD/PKK scum I think.

>>138450456
Went to see it in theaters years ago when it first came out, fell asleep in the first 15 minutes due to my ex-friend Jack Daniels. But George Clooney being in a redpilled movie is probably impossible.

>>138450569

Very old picture found it in one of my folders from 3/4 years ago.

>>138450706
>Peshmerga are slightly above PYD/PKK scum I think
They are, but my guess is they'll be bolstered by their comrades in Syria to be more independent and biji bijiesque

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>>138450833

Actually scratch that it's not that old.

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>>138450456
Looks like the Director is pretty redpilled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jve46iSX6-8

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>>138450995

Good movie shame there will never be any films made about the Syrian civil war from the good side, well not big films anyway.

>>138450706
>Peshmerga are slightly above PYD/PKK scum I think.
>>138450894
>They are

what's the difference? is peshmerga that much more than a rebranding of the same old stuff?

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Why is Raqqa taking so long even though the US clearly have a DGAF attitude to airstrikes? If the civilian casualty claims are to be believed that is.

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>This is what ameridumbs believe.

>>138451167
They're not a military wing of a communist organization.

>>138451182
kurds are not very competent at anything. That's why they biji biji all the time and beg the westeners to give them a country instead of making it them selves

>>138450731
I saw from between but looks like it's about the corruption in oil companies and its effect on middle east politics

>>138449601
They shouldn't. The race to DeZ is on (again).
Plus when ISIS is concentrated along the Euphrates, SAA & Hezballah will attack from the West; PMU from the East.

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>>138451229

>the new age is coming

Yes the new age global order reset where the US is no longer the hyper power that can impose its will everywhere. Iran + Syria + Iraq + Hezbollah + Russia glorious alliance.

#BREAKING US-led air strikes killed 27 civilians Sunday in Syria's Raqa: monitor

I swear these fucken scum..

>>138451315

Is it the one where Matt Damon's son gets electrocuted from a pool lightbulb?

>>138451379
Goddamn that bumper is atrocious
Also good job painting a car with no AC matte black in a hot country.

>>138451412
get rekt faggot

>>138451256
I'm under the imrpression that there are a million kurdi groups and 999999 of them all want the same thing, making them one and the same in my book. I mean what's the number of Öcalistas in the peshmerga? I'm pretty sure it's not that close to 0 (although I am uneducated)

>>138451315
I'll have to check it out again

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>>138451379
Can China and Sri Lanka join?

>>138451315
>about the corruption in oil companies and its effect on middle east politics
more like the deep state, its connection with MIC and the Oil industry and the their regime destabilization efforts.

>>138451530

China is stepping up to the plate in the East where America is also quickly losing influence, so yes in a sense. Not sure about Sri Lanka though.

>>138445744
Who's doing the killing?

>>138451530
China is the at the forefront of this organisation along with Russia.

>>138451485
>I'm under the imrpression that there are a million kurdi groups and 999999 of them all want the same thing
This pretty much, the Peshmerga just don't wear it on their sleeve like the YPG do.
>All kurds must be destroyed though

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>>138451610

>>138451433
Yup that's it

>>138451610

Russia

>>138451610
The Ruskies.

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>>138451412
>war happens, people die
buland pls

>>138450456
Remember watching this in the cinema, one of my early redpills. Great movie.

>>138446303
Wow... The Wahhabi version of a child prodigy

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>>138445744

>vehicles not even leaving a vehicle gap between themselves in a war zone

What were they thinking?

>>138451737
This tbqh
Always the pragmatist wafflebro, top lad.
Not saying it's a good thing but it does happen

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>ISIS fate sealed in west Qalamoun as Syrian Army, Hezbollah secure major high-ground: map

BEIRUT, LEBANON (7:40 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and Hezbollah continue to erode the strategic position of ISIS forces in Syria’s western Qalalmoun, today securing two major heights which give them oversight over most of the defenses and settlements held by the terrorist group throughout the rugged region.

Today, the SAA and Hezbollah secured two very tall hills from ISIS in the western Qalamoun countryside. These were the hills of Qarnt Shabat Ako (standing at 2,364 meters – giving it the alternative name of Height 2364) in the Jaroud Jarajeer area and Qarnat Ajloun, which is located on the northern axis of the pro-government advance.

In particular, Qarnt Shabat Ako holds considerable strategic value insofar as it overlooks all of the southern areas of the ISIS-occupied west Qalamoun pocket.

Meanwhile, the Syrian Arab Air Force (SyAAF) has been continuously targeting ISIS positions, vehicle movements and gatherings in the area of the al-Qarees hills and Halimat Qarah mountains; both areas are major concentration zones for ISIS forces in western Qalamoun.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-fate-sealed-west-qalamoun-syrian-army-hezbollah-secure-major-high-ground-map/

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>>138451825
I guess they can't really do much unless they attack en masse.
Gotta risk it to get the biscuit!

>>138449100
What I meant is that his position isn't inherited through familial relations like a lot of monarchies are
>>138449301
Well ,Yeah, isn't obvious?

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>>138451229
>he says while the U.S empire falls apart because of over-extension while china grows in strength

>>138451379
>implying russia wont fall apart and lose its regional power status when putin dies

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>>138451825
>pic
Lets not forget the ports of entry into most of these countries are guarded by the i*reali security firm ICTS. The same firm that provided security for the airports on 9/11.

>>138452073

>implying Putin hasn't been grooming successors for a decade

>>138452207
>implying lots of "well groomed successors" have fucked their countries
asides russia is losing its regional power status in a few more decades anyhow when the last of its industry rots away

>>138451737
Let me do what Putanguenho pays me to do in peace.
>>138452019
Always good to have another opinion, especially with your flag.

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#BREAKING: #Lavrov: #Russia and #Egypt are working together to form a unified #opposition delegation

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>>138452371

Yeah that's why internally Russia is pushing for home manufactured products and the sanctions are even forcing them to do this, that'll destroy industry alright. It's not like Russia is taking back what is rightfully theirs or anything and the US can't do shit about it.

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>>138452724

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>>138452737

>>138443776
All the crew has brain tumor?

>>138452724
>>138452737
>>138452752
Russian submarine cat

Daily reminder that Paratrooper tactics changed the direction of the war in Assad's favour.

Hourly reminder that Assad browses /sg/ and took my advice to use Paratroopers.

>>138452807
Daww. Kommrad Kuttles, reporting in

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>>138452818

INB4 2 thread autistic fight over whether it actually qualifies for a paratrooper attack or not

>>138452797
kek.
Any new about this from Turkish sources mate?
>Erdogan says Turkey and Iran discussing joint action against Kurdish militants
https://archive.is/Qt2w

>Russia, Iran, Turkey are in talks over wiping out Nusra (HTS) in Idlib. Turkey wants a bigger role to maintain influence in Idlib

>According to the reports, Russia led attack from Latakia, Iran led attack from S.Aleppo, Turkey led attack from Hatay to contain Nusra (HTS)
https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/898915587975503872

>More
Daily Sabah: #TSK Operation "Jugular Vein" preparations ready to expand #EuphratesShield to target #Afrin/#Idlib
https://twitter.com/badly_xeroxed/status/898927128930009089

>>138452686

Too bad the west of Ukraine is full of Eurocucks, won't exactly welcome a Russian occupation force with open arms

>>138452686
just because "internally Russia is pushing for home manufactured products" dosent mean it will ultimately help
at the end of it the rich will move jobs overseas no matter what what russia is attempting here could ver well slow it down but long term its still fucked

>It's not like Russia is taking back what is rightfully theirs or anything and the US can't do shit about it.
u mean crimea and that one small part of ukraine

>dodging the question about what if putins successor is a retard
just think about this
>putin 1 dies
>putin 2 takes over
>cant fill putin 1s shoes
>power vacuum occurs
>striped of most power b opposing factions of goverment
>power struggle occurs
>deposed and politically purged b another faction of russian politicans
>end of putins legacy
it could happen
like a putin-malenkov situation

>>138451929
>Not saying it's a good thing but it does happen
Modern states have come a long way from intentional civilian slaughter
I wonder what the numbers would be if states still went full ww2 style on civilians
>>138452401
fair enough

>>138453157
West Ukraine is kind of useless, all the industry and relevant ports are in the east.

The only West Ukraine can offer is dumping grounds for migrants

>>138453226
>stalin-malenkov situation
fixed

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>>138452797
there goes my positive karma

>Syria war: Russian jets 'destroy IS convoy near Deir al-Zour'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40999226

Dozens of so-called Islamic State (IS) militants are reported to have been killed in a Russian air strike near the eastern Syrian city of Deir al-Zour.

Russia's defence ministry said at least 200 jihadists had died after its air force targeted a convoy of about 20 4x4s, armoured vehicles and tanks.

It did not say when the strike took place, but a monitoring group reported that a convoy had been hit last Friday.

The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights put the death toll at 70.


>Also NEWS Bonus

>'I'm tired of eating humans'

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/im-tired-of-eating-humans-20170820

>>138453226

>dodging the question

It's a pointless question because Russia is not a one man state, yes Putin has done extremely well pulling Russia back up onto its feet but if you think that everything changes with the President now you are as wrong as people who thought America would completely change with Trump.

Your little fantasy is not even worth responding to because of what is further up in this post.

>implying taking Crimea infront of everyone is not a big deal

Crimea is extremely important strategically and Russia just went ahead and took it back, don't forget parts of Georgia too under Bush, this has been going on for 3 Presidencys now and America can't do anything.

>>138453410
>It's a pointless question because Russia is not a one man state
but it essentially is
the only reason russia is still thought of as this powerful monolithic force is mainly because of this cult of personality hes built around himself and convinced a large segment of the russian population to support him no matter what using it
when this monolithic charismatic figure eventually dies and some literally who gets his job that Cult Of Personality will be fucked

>>138453801

Just because someone is in power DEMOCRATICALLY for a longer period than 2 American Presidential terms does not automatically mean there is a cult of personality, and that is a stupid argument because North Korea had a cult of personality twice and carried on just as normal when power was handed over.

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Venezuela update, "Venezuela is WHITE!" edition
https://pastebin.com/rX4yfygz
Death Toll: 153+ (inc. prison)

*Congress-in-protest rejects constituent assembly superiority
*Lots of news articles focusing on individual revolutionaries/opponents to Maduro
*Constituent assembly takes all powers from congress
*Former AG Luisa Ortega and Husband flee country, head to Columbia
*Swiss companies pulling out of Vz
*Venezuelan soldiers announce rebellion against Maduro
*"[If you are not with opposition, you are a military target]"
>new attorney general (replaced Luisa Ortega) vows to jail protest leaders
>protestors face 25 years in jail
>maduro visits cuba, pays respects to Fidel
>Thieves stealing animals from zoo, likely for food
>at least 37 people dead in venezuelan prison after shootout
>Maduro alleged to issue order to military to prepare for US invasion
>latin american leaders urge against military intervention
>Maduro's son threatens to take over white house
>CIA director warns that Vz could threaten the US:
>"...Russians are there, the Iranians, Hezbollah are [in Vz]"
>Trump wouldn't rule out military intervention last friday
>Rubio may have been target of Vz assassination plot (we tom clancy now)
>Credit Suisse (intl. bank) bans trading on two Vz bonds
>Rosneft, russia continue to purchase oil and assets from PDVSA
>US oil companies lobbying congress to stop/prevent ban on Vz oil.
>Venezuela no longer part of SA trading bloc MERCOSUR
>AG Luisa ortega barred from entering her office, effectively ending her job
>"terrorist attack" repelled by Vz military at Fort Paramacay
>oil sanctions likely to force eventual Vz default on bonds
>third party tech. corp says assembly vote illegitimate
>Maduro denies claims of voter fraud
>US benchmark for oil dropped below $50 per barrel yesterday
>Venezuela's foreign minister accuses CIA, US of organizing violent demonstrations and supporting opposition
>Venezuelan bonds drop to 1 yr low as Maduro rejects sanction threat

>>138453951
>Just because someone is in power DEMOCRATICALLY for a longer period than 2 American Presidential terms does not automatically mean there is a cult of personality
>russia
>DEMOCRATICALLY
>russia
pick one

>>138453951
I don't know if it qualifies as a cult of personality, but there is something freaky with how people put up decals on their cars with Putin's face and all the souvenirs they sell with his images and similar things.

>>138454125

Nice post senator McCain.

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>>138454004
>Thieves stealing animals from zoo, likely for food
Atleast they haven't resorted to cannibalism

>>138453801
>but it essentially is
No, it's not.

Honestly, you really should stop. It is obvious your information about us coming from some low effort OP-EDs or MSM.

Here is example, if right now Shoigu anounce that he want to run for president, I would bet my money on him vs. Putin. And he is not the only one.

>>138454179
what is: murdering dissenters

>>138454313

Pretty sure more bodies can be linked to the Clinton / Obama Democrats than you can link a few journalists to Russia.

>>138442385
>>138442608
Saleh forces are lazy faggots Houthis fight mostly on their own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf0ZKOhPZF8&t=9s

America kills more ISIS than Russia and SAA

>>138454179
whatever then
see
>>138454313


>>138454164
a cult of personality dosent really need to be some stalin/NK/adolf etc tier idea it just means a politician who amasses such a hardened support base of people who simply will NEVER stop supporting them
people like trump and putin fit the mold perfectly

>>138454391
of political opponents or of jihadis?

>>138454526

Threats to the status quo not Jihadis, Jihadis are just a distraction for Americans.

>>138454485

OK so your point is rebutted so you resort to "well Russia kills people", guess what, all governments kill people.

>>138454391
>"person A killed less people with hitmen then person B so person A is a Better person"

>Pretty sure more bodies can be linked to the Clinton / Obama Democrats than you can link a few journalists to Russia.
how would u know?

>>138454584
>Threats to the status quo
you gotta get more specific

soooooo Ukraine is not looking too good

>US Navy team starts building maritime ops center at Ukrainian base
https://www.rt.com/news/399006-us-seabees-ukraine-maritime-center/

The U.S. building naval bases right next to Crimea there as if it's a NATO country... That's kinda like building shit up in Cuba. Crazy times. I wonder what's gonna happen here. The Military-Industrial complex is absolutely insatiable. They have all of Europe but must still expand.

>>138453272
in comments under news, i read all the time Russia slaughtered probably a lot of civilians with the recent 200 ded strike against ISIS
and at the same time US killing civilians gets no mention from those same people.
Why are they the only ones who are allowed to feign shock when people get killed?

>>138454424
>i-if I believe it hard enough it will become true

>>138454226

That comes later

>>138454635
the difference is that if you kill people who go against a certain party or movement within your country, then you have completely ended the chance of democracy because clearly ideas are not allowed to compete on their own terms

>>138454635
Call me naive but I don't think the Lithuanian government does, along with many irrelevant country governments.

>>138454703
Prove me wrong

>>138446904
>entire command of ship will never float a USN boat again
Highly doubtful this is intentional. No matter how it benefits the navy, these guys still wouldn't be betting their careers on it.

>>138454946
they bet their careers when they were content with not having a lookout at all times who has a shred of discipline

>>138454771
It doing far worse, you government basically abuse your nation into existence. Killing you would be more humane.

>>138455119
quick rundown?

>>138454946
>these guys still wouldn't be betting their careers on it.
Orders are orders

>>138454790
Your mom fucked horse and your dad sucks mexican cock.Prove me wrong

>>138454635
see.....
>>138454757

if killing of opposition leaders and anti-gov journalists occur with state backing then its automatically not a democracy because a form banned "wrong think" exists

also
>guess what, all governments kill people.
translation
>"A does the same as B but like A so its better"
i know this could be a bit of wishful thinking but how bout we attempt to have a world where politicians DONT order the murder of people whose only crime was disagreeing?

>>138455228
>grasping at straws
So goeth the tinfoiler

>>138454790
>make claim without proof
>claim is questioned
>"prove me wrong"
I think the original burden of proof lays with you my friend
On the actual subject: it's hard to make a proper estimate who killed how many isis fighters
Perhaps the US killed more (than russia) since the US intervened in both syria and iraq, who knows?
Killing more than the SAA who actually fights them on the ground tho... sounds a bit unlikely to me

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Even though ISIS hunters social media accounts and all my sources are quiet, ISIS hunters capturing Huwaysis is a believeable claim.
I'll explain why the hoholmap and wikipedia are dead wrong about Mount Bel'as even though some sources claimed that there's been progress several days ago.

First of, this update yesterday:
>SAA and allies capture several heights west of Jabal Sha'er in east Homs countryside
There are two mountains and a hill (circles) that's considered independant of Sha'er directly west of it. Capturing these yesterday correlates perfectly with capturing Huwaysis (smallest circle) today.

Number 2: There's massive ass gorge between Bel'as and previously mentioned mountains and Huwaysis. How the fuck did they capture Bel'as before these heights directly west of Sha'er?!?

Number 3: The sources claiming Bel'as was captured, most probably mistranslated making advances towards Bel'as.

>>138454790
>makes a ridiculous unsubstantiated claim
>expect others to prove him wrong
That's not how it works. The burden of proof lies upon you.

>>138455119
>you government basically abuse your nation into existence
what....what the fuck does that even mean?
"abuse your nation into existence"
Lithuania declared independence in the 90s with popular support

>>138454757

The difference is that the US mainly does it in foreign countries because they have total control in their own, red or blue = exactly the same outcome.

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>>138455216

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>>138455229
It's probably the other way around tbqhwy m8, think about it.
>His mom sucks Mexican dick
>Dad needs a release
>Dad fucks barnyard animal

>>138455362
>#ISIS_Hunters liberated #Huwaysis. Encirclement at #Uqayribat area shrinks. #Homs #Syria #Hama #سوريا #حماة #حويسيس #حمص
https://twitter.com/ISIS_Hunters/status/899600528677769216
There we go, it's official.

>>138455420
exactly, that doesn't affect their internal democratic process. they can still be a democracy.

>>138455364
America operates in Iraq and Syria, SAA/RuAF just in Syria

America has been operating in these areas for 6 years, RuAF barely 2

By this logic alone we have more ISIS kills but go ahead and link me any sources even your faggy Russian propaganda and we'll do the math

>>138455487
so? whats that proof of? a lot of people moved out of eastern europe around that time

Hezbollah stronkest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsL1FWlIWzY

>>138455537
Sweet

>>138455487
That is sadly a tendency that is present in nearly all white countries.
But yes, I do agree that capitalism and freedom of movement is a double edged sword.

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>>138454675

>The U.S. building naval bases right next to Crimea there as if it's a NATO country...

The US can build bases in any country that allows them to. Also it's not a "base", it's an op center.

>Seabees assigned to Naval Mobile Construction Battalion (NMCB) 1 are constructing the $750,000 maritime operations center on Ukraine’s Ochakiv Naval Base (Mykolaiv region, southern Ukraine, – 112 International). When complete, the center will serve as major planning and operational hub, conducting command and control of Black Sea-region maritime assets during Sea Breeze, the annual joint U.S. and Ukrainian military exercise

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/112-ua-us-navy-construct-maritime-operations-centre-ukraine.html

>>138455545

They are not a democracy because the vote is for exactly the same people just wearing different coloured hats.

>>138455326
>Implying I really give a shit anyway
>(((You)))

>>138455762
I'm starting to think you're right as far as foreign policy goes, but I'm not sure when it comes to their domestic policies

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>>138455380
>what....what the fuck does that even mean?
Well, in your case that mean that your government replace you with chinks and poo. Of course if we assume that you are not one already.

>>138455762
and are you going to genuinely imply russia is different?

>>138455251

You continuously trip yourself up, first you claim there is no democracy in Russia then you say that opponents are killed, why would they kill opponents if there was no democracy? It would make no difference.

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>>138455719
>That is sadly a tendency that is present in nearly all white countries.
Germany is not white or you will admit that your idea is false?

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>>138455229

>>138455889
it's what makes it not be a democracy

>>138455837

You only have to look at the past 50 years of US foreign policy to know that I am right on that, even the most ardent supporter of the US can not defend all of the invasions and regime changes. As for internally like I said, the Democrats have a ton of bodies linked to them this election alone, whether you want to say its all conspiracy or not that's up to you but has Trump really changed anything foreign policy wise? Has anything changed at all? Clinton still goes on about no fly zones in Syria and destroying the Syrian air force but that's impossible now with Russia and Iran so deeply entrenched, she's just a sociopath going around grabbing all those speakingbucks.

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>>138455874

So now you've just done what you accused me of doing by saying A is the same as B but it's fine if A does it...

Wew

>>138455658
>By this logic alone
If you were to include Iraqi troops, maybe. Otherwise, you're delusional if you think the occasional airstrike had a more significant impact on the course of the war than Syrian troops fighting on the ground, especially given how utterly inept US airstrikes seem to be when it comes to actually damaging ISIS. In case you forgot, ISIS only began to lose ground (and quickly) when the RuAF started getting involved. And since the SAA started making big gains, you seem way more keen on bombing them than ISIS.

>>138456077
>the Democrats have a ton of bodies linked to them this election alone
you never did provide a source on that

>>138455889
>what is a facade of democracy
is the democratic peoples republic of korea democratic
even if the russian gov allows a facade of democracy the elections are obviously rigged all the media is state owned and opposition voices dont get a chance to speak
lets get over semantics and call a spade a spade
Russia is NOT a democracy

>>138455889
>if you kill your political opponents you have democracy

>>138456060

So there is democracy? The vote is free or is the vote fixed?

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>>138455487

Shrinking populations are the norm in eastern europe.

>>138456187
its fixed the vote is fixed

>>138456182
>Russia is NOT a democracy
democracies don't even exist

>>138456040
Germany has a birth rate of 1,5 even despite all the shitskins. Their population is barely increasing despite importing millions of immigrants.

>>138456187
you can't put whatever you want in the paper without risking your life, so you can't make opinion, so you can't push your agenda, so you can't run an opposition, so the voters never get the whole picture and are voting based on a fairy tale and the fear that's ingrained in them, so it's not a democracy

BAKING FRESH SOON

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>>138456182

I never said DPRK is democratic I said in this cult of personality nothing changed handing over to another so therefore if what you say about Russia is true nothing will change once Putin retires.

>>138456315

I would like to see some backup for those wild claims Sven.

>>138456247

Source?

>>138456280
i know but come
obviously all democracies are just facades anyhow but at least it does a good job at tricking people
the russian democracy is paper thin an can easily be seen through

>>138456447

Just because people vote differently to how you would expect them to vote does not make it not a democracy.

So what are the RAF targeting out in Syria?

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>>138456040

If it wasn't for immigration, the total population of Germany would have started shrinking years ago.

>>138456517

Probably just providing air support to the SAS in Iraq and not much else.