2020

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Looks about right. Not sure about Arizona though.

>>138376096
>>138376208
Feels like 2016 all over again

>>138376096

8 YEARS

poor wittle anon can barely get by 8 months

>>138376410

The difference is, we gave him a chance, and he has shown the world exactly who he is.

>>138376490
you should actually listen to his speeches and acts instead of doing so through your CNN / MSNBC filter. DYE reality?

cuckboy

Gave him a chance. Who is he then?

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Went for realism. I regret voting for Clinton and will vote Trump 2020. He has been really good for my job here in Michigan.

>>138376490
Ok, so explain who he is then.
Are you:
A. A shill
B. Indoctrinated sheeple
C. A free thinker with actual reasons and unbiased sources to back up said beliefs

>>138376096
>Libtard thinks that, just because everyone he knows in Cali is against Trump, that it means everyone in Michigan who saw the unemployment rate finally go down this year also wants to vote for more immigrants and free trade because otherwise they're nazis
Dream on. I dont know why you didn't just make Texas blue while you were at it.

>>138376958
Minnesota was a 1% margin, swap it for Colorado. Not too sure about Virginia.

>>138376881
Triggered.

>>138376958
traitor

>>138377253
I would flip Minnesota, Nevada, Oregon, and New Mexico to red too if national voter ID laws get put in. The main reason I have Minnesota blue is because its full of illegal voters like the ones from Somalia. I know Minnesota very well.

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>>138376096
Lol democrats never learn from history do they.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/upshot/red-states-blue-states-does-this-map-look-familiar.html?

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>>138376958
>Trump
>Finishing his first term let alone his second
Pick one.

>>138376096
>nate magnesium

>>138377399
Maybe the Democrats should not be trying the flood the borders with illegal immigrants. That is the number one thing screwing over Americans from getting work. Jobs are eveything and Dems are harming us now.

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>>138376096
>le epik blue Georgia maymay

>>138377399

You can't be a traitor to the Democratic party.
Leaving isn't betrayal. It's just waking up.

Lord Rothschild gives warning on stock market, Trump bend the knee to the deep state tomorrow
night.
RIP.

>Arizona
>Georgia
>North Carolina
>Florida
>Flipping
lol no

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>>138377532
He's old enough that he could die through his second term, true, but that would leave you with Mike "put the gays against the electric fence" Pence in charge.

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>>138376096
Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris.

find a flaw.

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>>138376096
Nah senpai, I predict the Green Party will win all 538 electoral votes and win in a 90% popular vote landslide. Democrats and Republicans will be hunted and obliterated into extinction.

Source: Me

>>138376096
Ga, az going dem? Not gonna happen.

>>138376490
And we like him

>>138378821

Too much dude weed for Colorado to ever be red again

>Vermont red
>wut?

>>138378821
NY would go for Kamala.

>>138376490

Trump isn't acting any differently now from when he was campaigning. I've never understood this line of attack

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>>138378821
She would crush Don the Con.

flaws:

>Nevada
>Colorado
>New Mexico
>Virginia
>Vermont
>Connecticut
>New York
>Maine
>red

I also expect her to flip Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Arizona, and maybe even Texas.

2018 will keep both Congresses a Red majority. Trump will remain successful in his economic agenda and will ultimately win him the continued support of his original voters, including independents. Many Gen Z'ers will be able to vote for the first time and they will go for Trump in a Regan-esque manner with a majority holding conservative or at least anti-Democrat views. Leftists and Democrats will continue their aggressive anti-racist agenda and will ultimately push the USA further Right until they figure out maybe half the country doesn't like being labled an evil oppressor when they realize they see no benefit from "white privilege", only more handicaps and affirmative action programs screwing their own self interests.

Given all of this, Trump will remain President for 8 years in a historical polarizing era of US politics. No impeachment; even if he was impeached, Pence would be a good leader and be even better for the Republicans' image as the party of peace and prosperity.

Identity politics is dying a little more everyday as more young people are exposed to the effects of PC social garbage and faux-equality, and the Democrats will suffer terribly from this.

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>>138376096
Hickenlooper vs. Trump

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>>138378727
>>138378605
Step outside of /pol/ and look at the world. The voting base isn't you and all your bros on r/TheDonald

>>138381141
love it. love everything about it.

>>138381422
>Get out of your bubble
>This message brought to you by the people who were adamant Hillary would win by a landslide in 2016

>>138381141
What fantasy is that?

>>138381727
Because it's a fantasy

>>138381422
We're white voters and we're the majority in states that matter.

>>138380163
Hah that nigger is worse than Hillary.

>>138376096
Why are you predicting for 2020? It's 2018 that determines if trump gets impeached or removed from office. Oh wait, this is /pol/. They don't know how they system works.

Bernie Sanders v. Donald Trump 2020

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>>138377399
>democrats
>calling anyone else a traitor
Their whole platform is being traitors to America

>>138379903
Trump is from New York, Queens to ne exact. i think New Yorkers will pick Trump because he is a New Yorker.

>>138380163
she would lose even harder than Clinton. she would only get votes because she is Coal Colored, like Obongo was.

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>>138382270
It's called reality. And it has three and a half years to get worse.

>>138381422
>The voting base isn't you and all your bros on r/TheDonald
>Anons last words before the election of 2016

>>138383530
VA ain't red son.

Also, go look up Nate Platinum's Sanders 2020 prediction. Its a riot.

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>>138383530
>>138382955

sorry but Bernie got REKT by Clinton. and you think he can REK Trump? KEK No.

pic related is what Sanders V Trump will really be like.

>>138376096
You have to say who it is, otherwise your opinion is shit.

>>138382429
Yeah, a ton of voters wanted Clinton to fucking die in a fire. She will not be on the ticket in 2020.
Also, much of Trump's base is 65+ and many of those folks will be dead.

Someone like Uncle Joe would crush Trump. However, the dumb dems will never nominate him.

Anyway, it will be close, again.

>>138387910
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/07/31/millennials-and-gen-xers-outvoted-boomers-and-older-generations-in-2016-election/

you're stupid

>>138387202
commiefornia and jewyork wouldnt vote red ever.
fix your map.

Trump takes California after purging all the illegals(and niggers)

>>138376096

>GA and AZ maymay

Other than that, it's accurate.

>>138376958

CO has been lost to blue DUDE WEED LMAOs. It's not coming back, dude.

>>138376208
Arizona will not go blue, maybe 2024 when enough spics move in but 2020 still seems a bit too early.

>>138376096
Nah ohio always wins

>>138379821
Too many cuckifornians moved here recently too

>>138388462
>>138387202
Neither would MA or RI.

>>138386712
His approval rating doesn't mean shit. People aren't going to vote for the crazy lefty no matter how disapproving they are of Trump

>>138388245
You just proved my point then called me stupid.

I do see the baby bommers dieing off.

Xers and milenials are making up bigger and bigger shares of the vote over time.

Much of Trump's base is boomers (a shrinking voting population)

>>138388991
>Hickenlooper
>Crazy lefty

>CA
>blue
IHYGDTT

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>>138376096
>always in this state of denial

>>138389138
In general, faggot

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>>138376096
Trump will name the Jew this week. The truth shall set us all free. CIA and Mossad are DONE

My prediction for 2020

>>138378821
New Hampshire
>Blue
New York
>Red

>>138379915

Acting isn't actually doing anything. Trump was suppose to deliver all this things he promised, and so far he's done nothing of note.

A couple of Executive Orders feels good, but they're not real actions. The reality is the Congress runs the country, and the GOP Congress has very little in common with Trump and his goals.

>>138389264
Not every leftist is a college SJW.

A moderate democrat will smack Trump's face with his dick in 2020. The promises of getting tired of winning won't work after a failed administration. It did the trick once, but it won't happen again.

>>138376096
so like you think nc and va are going to be blue. va just had a neo nazi rally and nc has been telling black people to go back to africa for 2 years

also pa was red in the previous election and will probably stay red and ga has never been blue and az is also red

thats 75 points that go to republicans without more losses for democrats

>>138389716

This. Endorsing the Raise and making empty statements about the wall being built act means fuck all if 85% of those assholes are just going to sit there and do nothing to push it.

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>>138376096
Probably this.

Dems will probably have someone like Shillary and will fail

>>138376096
Last I heard bernie still can't win but will run another slush fund campaign to pay for his summer houses and expensive sport cars.
>He can still win, match me, just $27 lad

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>>138376096

>>138380163
>Black woman runs for office
>Republican candidate wins black male vote for the first time since 1965

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>Democrat (((predictions)))

when will you learn?

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>>138389716
>Nothing of note.

>>138386712
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html


Up again :^)

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>>138376096
predictions are always correct brother, same with polling.

>>138390089

Quite realistic. I can see the demoshits trying to rile up niggers in MI and PA so they can take them back.

And honestly, NC is very much in danger, too. Don't think for one second that they'll let him forget about those edgy faggots.

>>138389736
Yes, a moderate Democrat like Tulsi Gabbard. Hey Spencer!
>failed administration
I consider deportations, the wall and all the other projects a big win.

>>138376096
>Thinking Pennsylvania will turn blue after many non-voting republicans got shown that their vote can actually matter

>>138382018
>Ignoring that hillary won the popular vote

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>>138390404
NC has been trending red since 2008.
>>138390521
>ignoring that it doesn't matter

>>138390521
Nobody cares about the 3 million illegals that won't be able to ever vote again.

>>138380163
You think Texans would vote for dems, much less a nigger woman who is antigun and pro wetback? You dags really are retarded.

>>138390929
Spics do vote 25R/65D in Texas so it's only a matter of time until Texas eventually turns blue. But it won't be within this or the next decade.

>>138390658
NC has been trending blue since 2000.

Its not a lock for blue, certainly, but it is a swing state.

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>>138376096
>Doesn't post link
http://www.270towin.com

>>138388738
You and me, let's thin the ranks

Cull the herd

>>138390404
>NC
If Trump can take OH and WI, I think Trump will be able to gain NC without any difficulty. MI and PA kinda depend on how well Trump get factories back to the Midwest. If he does that welll, he will be able to even gain MN. (IL is totally different because of Chicago. If he can get IL, then Trump will even get 350+ electoral college)
>>138390464
>Tulsi Gabbard
I think people like her or Jim Webb would have a shot but Dems won't nominate people like that for presidential election

>>138391241
My totals prove you wrong. It went slightly blue in 2008 and then red in 2012 and redder in 2016. Republicans control the entire state except for the governorship.

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>>138376958
>He has been really good for my job here in Michigan.
Why should you vote against your own interests though?

>>138379821
Not when Trump decriminalizes it.

>>138390658
The Electoral College has fucked shit ever since it's creation. It bends the value of each vote, so people from less populated states votes are much more useful than, say Californian or Texan votes. If Trump won the majority but Clinton still won, Imagine how fucking pissed you'd be. Everyone's vote should be equal, it shouldn't matter if you live in California or Wyoming.

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>>138376096

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ALL HAIL GUACA BOWLE JEB

>>138390464
>I consider
The election is not about you. Six months in the people considers it a failure, and Trump has no strategy to turn things around because he doesn't have a clue about what the fuck he's doing there.

>>138391461
But everyones vote does matter. Trump won 56% of the electoral college and the states he won make up 56% of the American population. Clinton also won VT, RI and other small shit states that don't deserve more than a single electoral vote. WY is a meme.

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>>138390521
>>138391461

>i'm pissed that we can't use our immigrant swarm for vote rigging

kys

>>138391621
>Six months in the people considers it a failure
Fake news. Trump still has a solid 40% approval and he won with 46% of the vote.
>and Trump has no strategy to turn things around because he doesn't have a clue about what the fuck he's doing there
He's deporting illegals at an increasing rate, the economy is doing incredibly well, the wall seems to be getting started in October and the other important stuff will be done between 2018 and 2019. That's fucking successful.

however on a serious note whoever takes florida wins 99%, and it seems to me that it will be trump.

>>138391372
Your own graph shows that its been trending blue since 2000.

A smallish blue win in 2008 followed by two smallish red wins does not refute the Yuge change since 2000. And those numbers were close in '12 and '16. Could very easily swing again.

Reds control many state legislatures due, mostly, to gerymandering. NC included.

>>138376096
The question is who is the democratic candidate?

>>138391461
I don't even bother voting in California since it's guaranteed blue. If my vote isn't going to count for anything of substance, why the fuck am I going to bother getting off of my ass and driving to some polling center? I don't know the best solution, but it can't be this garbage ass EC. As things stand now, if you are in certain states and vote against the grain, you're nothing.

>>138391839
The wall is not planned, funded, nor about to get started. Other than Obama's planned maintenance to existing fencing, what are you talking about?

>>138391985
Booker, Warren, Cuomo, Waters, or that Mexican guy who was the Dept of Labor head.

Booker would landslide him. The rest, probably not.

>>138391917
>Your own graph shows that its been trending blue since 2000.
Blue up to 2008, then red again. Common Core failed another idiot.
>A smallish blue win in 2008 followed by two smallish red wins does not refute the Yuge change since 2000.
2000 and 2004 were low turnout races. Now in 2016, Trump managed to outperform Romney and increased the distance between Republicans and Democrats again.
>And those numbers were close in '12 and '16. Could very easily swing again.
If you consider a 150k win margin small..
>Reds control many state legislatures due, mostly, to gerymandering. NC included.
That also applies to blues you idiot. Illinois, Maryland and California are good examples for that. And control is control.

>>138392282
There's like a billion authorized at the moment and plans for prototypes

>>138389716
So we throw out Congress in 2018.

>>138392282
The wall is in it's end phase, the prototypes are currently being built down in San Diego, the wall budget has been approved by the House already and doesn't seem like it has a lot of Republican opponents in the Senate.
>Other than Obama's planned maintenance to existing fencing, what are you talking about?
That was FY2017 2.0 and if not for Trump, this would have never gotten through in the first place.
I'm talking about FY2018.

>>138392464
The prototypes are actually being built right now.

>>138392286

lol Democrats have 0 good options

Hillary lost with EVERY ADVANTAGE

>literal whos will win this time!

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I predict the Dems will double-down on race-war politics and nominate Kamala Harris, and then get btfo. Midwest turns Republican for good, but Dems might eventually pick up Texas via demographic changes by 2024/28. Not 2020 though. Overall, the electoral college will continue to keep the race commies in check, as it greatly diminishes the influence of urban areas. But of course that can only hold for so long...

>>138392286
Booker can't win against Trump. He's a Wall Street corporate liar who campaigned against Big Pharma but took their money anyway.

He'll get exposed very hard. Same with Kamala. Put them both on the ticket, the blues won't be coloured much this time.

>>138392706
Warren is well-known. The problem is that she's always angry and just yells like a child. Wants to have CA gun laws across the country. She's very unlikeable but she wants UHC which might sway people. She's basically a Bitch-Bernie.

Booker is charismatic but not black enough, and sucks Pharma dick.

But really, not great odds. Cuomo sucks ass. NY is being run into the ground with him in charge.

>>138392286
Booker is a gay, vegan gun grabbing nigger. The fag will never win.

>>138391110
If Texas goes blue, the Executive Branch shall be One-Party rule. It'll be such a disaster for the nation that if the US hasn't collapsed before then, it will then. Look at Illinois or California as examples of One-Party Democrat rule. It's a disaster.

>>138392830
The wall will halt and eventually reverse the demographic changes in Texas.

>>138378821
No way New York and Vermont are going red, anon. And I think New Mexico is baked in for Dems now that it's majority-Hispanic.

>>138393211
Yeah Texas really needs to stay red. But with whites stabilizing at only 31% of the population, that could be hard. Even if that translates into 45% of the voter population being white.

>>138391917
That huge jump in 2008 was black suddenly getting motivated. The blue bar stagnated there while the red kept climbing.

>>138393071
If Cuomo is the nominee, Dems are fucked for sure. Booker is a Wall Street whore and the Bernie dems will never go for him. Warren and Biden are the only ones with real shots, but I think people of colors will shun them because they don't constantly jerk off BLM and actually speak to the white working class.

>>138393071

she lied about being an indian

she's literally the worst possible candidate

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>>138376410
It's amazing isn't it? I don't see how they can get this smug after being BTFO again and again, they've gone into every election for the past two years thinking they're up by 10 and then on election day the bubble pops only for them to build it up again as soon as they can. 2018 will be another "surprise" loss, so will 2020 libs, join the rest of us in the real world.

>>138392386
Wew lad. Just look at the graph you posted. Massive R win in 2000 shrinking until it was blue in 08. Then it turned ever so slightly red for two cycles. That is two cycles not a trend. The trend lin from 2000 up to 16 is clearly blue. Have you had a statistics class in your life? Yes, I do consideder 150k marginal relative to millions more R votes in 2000.

Wrong, blues would gerymander if they could but they fucked that up hard in 2010 and the years leading up to it. Control is control, it is not a trend.

BL, NC remains very much in play in 20 and for the foreseeable future.

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>>138393396
All Empires fall, Anon. The Roman Empire collapsed when Welfare (Bread and Circuses) and the Deep State (Praetorians) bankrupted the Empire from hyperinflation due to unchecked Left-Wing decadence. The collapse was so great, international commerce collapsed for a thousand years, and all the cities depopulated from crime and destitution. The government effectively disappeared and local property owners became the dominant powers for security. It was only after this collapse of the Third Century, did foreign powers manage to actually successfully conquer Rome.

Keeping Texas Red is the final battlefield to prevent the Republic from descending into this abyss.

>>138380163
YEah, because EVERYONE loves stupid niggers.
Actually, only mentally ill leftist vermin worship the pavement apes. I wouldn't trust that low IQ nigger to run a lemonade stand, let alone a WHITE country. If anyone wants to live in a country run by brilliant niggers, move to Africa.

>>138394144
>Then it turned ever so slightly red for two cycles.
It turned slightly red then even more red. Stop using Common Core math please.
>That is two cycles not a trend.
They are.
>The trend lin from 2000 up to 16 is clearly blue.
Have you ever visited an university math course? It's trending red again now.
>Have you had a statistics class in your life? Yes, I do consideder 150k marginal relative to millions more R votes in 2000.
Man you really are retarded.
The graph clearly shows an x^2-0.5 function.
>Wrong, blues would gerymander if they could but they fucked that up hard in 2010 and the years leading up to it. Control is control, it is not a trend.
They still control a lot of blue states. They just fucked up in the red states.
>BL, NC remains very much in play in 20 and for the foreseeable future.
It's trending Republican and will likely remain a lightly red state.

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Its going to look like this at the polls. Liberals are so pissed off and organized they are going to have a higher voter turnout than ever before.

>>138394285
The other option is relying on Florida and the rustbelt + winning back Colorado.

>>138376096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVogLdbfOfQ

>>138376096
once again the tranny alt leftie OP swallows more cum than zhe can handle. prepare for trumps second term fag boys

>>138394601
All of these retards live in blue states. And it's mostly just white people who are protesting. Hispanics and blacks are falling in turnout and Asians don't care either. And Dems can't win with the white Democrat vote alone.

>>138392550
>not a lot of opponents
Just like repealing Obangocare, right?

And no, all actual and current wall and fence construction and maintenance is FY17 stuff. Thanks Obama.

Prototypes are neat but will not even be started till Nov at the earliest.

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>>138390195
My sides

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>>138393429
You think the blacks will not get motivated to vote again? Anyway, that does not explain the trending shift from red to purple.

>>138394854
>Just like repealing Obangocare, right?
There were some Republicans who fear for their reelection. The wall is pretty popular among Republicans and Independents don't care as much, so it will easily go through. If not, Trump has already announced that he will shut down the gov.
>And no, all actual and current wall and fence construction and maintenance is FY17 stuff. Thanks Obama.
But Trump signed the budget, so it's thanks Trump.
>Prototypes are neat but will not even be started till Nov at the earliest.
But they are already being built. Stop trying to shill about something you don't even have any idea about, retard.

>>138395031
That is easily explainable. Whites had a higher turnout than blacks until 2004, then blacks had a super high turnout, then the black turnout fell again. The turnout will not increase as long as there is no Obama 2.0 and there is literally not a single Democrat in the US who fits that bill.

>>138394520
It turned slightly red then a touch more red in two cycles. Neat. Do a basic fucking regression from 2000 to 16.

I am guessing you do not know how. But keep calling your opponent dumb if it makes your tiny brain feel any better.

>>138380163
>Kamala Harris

>>138382516 >>138386592 >>138390195 >>138390929 >>138394469

She is a poo not a nigger.
Poos are conservative, they'll definitely be against immigration

>>138376096
>Georgia
>Blue

nah

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>>138394608
It's a strategy that in theory could work, but it leaves no margin for error. Still. In the Long Run, the nation will have shifted so far fundamentally to Left Populism and Anti-White racism, the US as we know it will be effectively dead. The politics will resemble Brazil, which means that American Superpower will no longer exist. IDK how the American Elite will handle the fact that their power would be dismantled for Left Wing populism though.

>>138395164
>Already being built.
Cool provide a picture of the construction of these prototypes shill.

>>138395353
Texas was only 1% Republican in 1992 and then 9% now, that clearly shows a red trend :^)

You are a fucking moron.

>>138395405
Poos are niggers. They're elephant niggers.

Easily 360+ Trump.
Antifa's violence and censorship is a gift to the right.

>>138395431
The birth rates for non-whites are already down the drain. In 2016, the non-Hispanic white babies could already make up ~50% of all babies again if the preliminary data from the CDC report turns out to be true.

>>138390341
Most of these weren't directly caused by Trump.

>>138376490
>Yep he has shown he is awesome
>salt levels never higher

BTW the supreme court pick has been his only real decision and it was a fucking Home Run. Big League

>>138395505
https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/07/31/partisan-rr.jpeg

Texas seems to be trending a bit red atually.

Your analysis sucks. But keep calling others dumb.

Where is your regression line 2000-2016 for NC? Should be easy for your massive brain.

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>>138376096
Btw, I don't think Biden will be the nominee, as he's not extreme enough for the radicals on race. But if he were to be the nominee, it would be a bloodbath. Trump or Pence would be toast

>>138377399
>valuing loyalty to the party over what's actually best for the nation
This is why you lost.

>>138396576
>only until 2014
Trump won it by only 9% in 2016. That's a downward trend.
>Your analysis sucks. But keep calling others dumb.
You are dumb.
>Where is your regression line 2000-2016 for NC? Should be easy for your massive brain.
Should I make one from 1992 to 2016? Oha, that clearly shows an upwards trend.
Or from 1980 onward? Shiiiit, Trump actually beat Reagan's margin in NC.

Most of the election depends on whether trump
1) Doesn't face a serious primary challenger
2) Can hold the rust belt voters they peeled off the dems, which will be hard depending on NAFTA renegotiations
3) The dems don't nominate someone hot and tee vee friendly, like Trudeau

3) is super important a lot of young white women vote with their pussies

>>138376096
remember when they said Texas will go purple in 2016

yep just fuck off with ''predictions''

>>138386712
Let's trust polls goys! They can't be wrong!

>>138396881
>1) Doesn't face a serious primary challenger
There has never been a case of a sitting president being primaried. And it won't happen now.
>2) Can hold the rust belt voters they peeled off the dems, which will be hard depending on NAFTA renegotiations
It depends on more than NAFTA. It depends on manufacturing. And Trump really does give his best to bring more manufacturing companies to the rustbelt.
>3) The dems don't nominate someone hot and tee vee friendly, like Trudeau
Someone like Trudeau can only be elected in Canada. In the US, you need to show strength.

>>138395405
She's a gun-grabbing Californian who wants to tear down Confederate statues. She would win approximately 5 states.

>>138381422
Didnt people literally say this before the election?

>>138397081
Trump managed to piss off 5% of all whites and probably the same amount of Hispanics in TX and still handily won it.

>>138396856
Texas is treding a bit red. Just as I said. Can you read dumbass?

No. I asked for a simple statistical regression on the graph YOU posted. 2000-2016. Ready, set, go.

Oh, whats that? You cannot?

Moron.

>>138397315
>handily won it
The electoral map may look like a landslide but in reality he barely one several key States. If a few of them go the other way in 2020 it will be a landslide against him.

Assange says Zuckerberg is running as an independent. Trump wins California 40 30 30 and a collasal landslide nationwide.

>>138376096
If you truly believe in your heart that Wisconsin will turn blue in the next 20 years you are irremediably and completely a total retard.

>>138397496
>Texas is treding a bit red. Just as I said. Can you read dumbass?
No it isn't. A regression line ranging from 2004 to 2016 clearly shows an extreme downward trend.
>No. I asked for a simple statistical regression on the graph YOU posted. 2000-2016. Ready, set, go.
Because that tells us so much about the state of North Carolina. Imagine a regression line from 2008-2016. It shows a clear Republican trend.
>Oh, whats that? You cannot?
I can, but it's fucking useless because it absolutely says nothing.
>Moron.
Idiot.
>>138397538
Won AZ by 100k. Won Florida by 100k+ votes. NC by 150k+ votes. GA by 200k+ votes. Won PA by 40k. WI by 20k. MI by 10k.
Lost NH by 3k. Lost MN by 60k. Lost Nevada by 30k.
But clearly, only the red states in the rustbelt are in any danger of turning blue. Not like Trump could just win Romney states+Florida+NH+MN and afford to lose all the other ones.

>>138397538
That's how most elections are.

>>138386712
>unironically posting polls after 99.9999% madam president

>>138397587
That would tickle my pickle so hard I'd fucking cry.

ZUCC'D

>>138398155
It's not even the most current one from that particular pollster.

>>138387183
came to post this

Jeb! will rise again, just you wait

>>138396615
Yeah, what happens if Biden is the nom for the dems? Pretty clear age doesn't matter much anymore.

>>138397919
No, no it does not show a downward trend from 04-16. Are you fucking blind and retarded?

You either:
a) Know that I am correct and therefore will not do the regression.
or b) are retarded and cannot do one.

And yes, a regression analysis would tell us a lot about the trend in North Carolina. That you don't think so probably means 'b' is correct.

In all seriousness are you functionally retarded?

>>138398869
>No, no it does not show a downward trend from 04-16. Are you fucking blind and retarded?
Are you literally retarded? From R+20 to R+9 is clearly a downward trend.
>And yes, a regression analysis would tell us a lot about the trend in North Carolina. That you don't think so probably means 'b' is correct.
Stop being retarded.

>>138389523
This. NH will go red if anyone left of Hillary runs.

>>138386476
That's stupid as shit. It works with someone like Reagan, but Trump is no Reagan when it comes to PR and being diplomatic. NY would go for anyone but Trump at this point.

>>138388738
Isn't Trump thinking about legalizing weed in all the states? Maybe that'll do something.

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>>138376096
>thinking there will be another election

>>138376490
>he has shown the world exactly who he is.
You mean great.

>>138376096
>Texas
>Red
Umm, no sweetie

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My prediction as of now is that the Dems will nominate a white male candidate because they probably believe that Hillary only lost because she was a woman. This candidate will lose for having no platform or convictions other than being anti-Trump, much like how John Kerry was the anti-Bush candidate. By this point I'm also assuming Trump will have fulfilled most of his campaign promises (most importantly the wall) and ironed out the chaos that has plagued his first year.

>>138399039
You looked at the graph I posted? No?

That you are functionally retarded is about confirmed. Once and if you make it out of secondary school take a class in basic statistics. Get a tutor for sure. If you can make it through class your shitposting should decrease.

In the meantime avoid arguing with people about it. It highlights your ignorance and stupidity.

>>138397587
Nobody's voting for Zuckerberg. He doesn't come across as suitable president material on a very fundamental level.

>>138400258
>You looked at the graph I posted? No?
I did. Didn't include 2016 therefore it can be ignored.
>That you are functionally retarded is about confirmed. Once and if you make it out of secondary school take a class in basic statistics. Get a tutor for sure. If you can make it through class your shitposting should decrease.
Stop trying to talk like hot shit when you're barely new to probability and statistic theory.
>In the meantime avoid arguing with people about it. It highlights your ignorance and stupidity.
And your entire post disregarded my statement despite it being a legit argument.

OP Did you rub one out?

>>138400323
Zuckerberg is a beta cuck, he'll stand no chance to Trump.

>>138400209
Most delusional map I've seen

>>138376096
california wont be a state in 2020 retard

>>138400632
Try and picture him dealing with Kim Jong Un or handling a major terror attack. He'd lose against a plant pot.

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The big problem I see is that we won't be able to pull off the same tactics like we did last time. It would really surprise me if (((Social Media))) would just allows us to freely meme and cause chaos like during the 2016 election.

Hell, I am not even sure if /pol/ will be even around in 2020. Thanks to Spencer and his AltRight, we are probably just one """right-wing terror attack""" away from being shut down for good.

>>138400632
truth

>>138376490
as long as the economy doesn't collapse, the dems will put up some retard like Elizabeth Warren and he'll probably win

>>138400912
It'll be 2004 all over again.

>>138400463
No, it cannot be ignored, its a data set. Feel free to include 16 and run a regression on that data. You do knkw that one data point is not a trend, right? Right?

Feel free to do the regression and I will retract my statements. 2000-16 North Carolina plox.

Your move.

I've heard Kid Rock is running for senate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KnAzpi4avo

>>138401077
>No, it cannot be ignored, its a data set. Feel free to include 16 and run a regression on that data. You do knkw that one data point is not a trend, right? Right?
What about 2 data points? For example, 2012 and 2016. Holy shit that produces an upwards trend for NC.
>Feel free to do the regression and I will retract my statements. 2000-16 North Carolina plox.
Why not 1980 to 2016?

>>138395489
you should stop going on lebbit and watching TV you are being deceived, Obama was a terrible president and hillary would have been even worse. Trump is LITERALLY kicking ass and taking names and yet you sit there in your high chair sucking your thumb watching CNN and believing what a bunch of jews are telling you. What happened to Russia? i thought it was a done deal? what happened to impeachment? almost there right? You poster bois are antifa, literally bottom of the barrel basement dwelling piece of shit commies who burn the american flag, oh trumps a nazi now? LOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL go watch some (((MTV))) or read a buzzfeed article you fucking child

>>138376410
>Only won by a combined 70K votes
>Polling was within the margin of error is in most wing states (WI is the exception)
>Polling accurately predicted the national vote
>Trump's numbers going down in states he won
>GOP barely holding on to special election seats in deep red territory
>Wall isn't happening
>Hasn't accomplished anything
>Outright abandoned populists that got him elected in favor of Goldman Sachs advisors
>Inflaming racial tensions even more than Obama
>Leaked calls with leaders prove he's an incompetent pushover
>Army ignored his transgender ban
>Favors cutting taxes on the rich and further increasing the deficit
>Couldn't even get the GOP to repeal Obamacare
>Factories he brought back from Mexico are moving to China instead
>Taking credit for the same economy she shat on in the election 6 months into his presidency

Trump is unironically done in 2020.

>>138400209
Delusional

>>138401274
>>138401274
>2 data points, trend.
Not really, particuarly if more relevant data is availible. It is. You can use 2000-16 to keep it consistent if you desire.

>why not some other data
You are trying to refute my reply in response to YOUR graph. Hence 2000-16.

I am waiting.

>>138401630
Drumpf is definitely finished for realz this time

>>138401343
wtf are you talking about kid?

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>>138376096

>>138401630
I remember all these types of comments just before Bush got reelected. Don't underestimate the Democrat's ability to run a hopeless candidate.

>>138398155
The polls were fairly accurate. The only problem was how 538, NYT and the HuffPo interpreted the polls.

>>138401630
>Only won by a combined 70K votes
Wrong, any of these states would have been enough to win.
>Polling was within the margin of error is in most wing states (WI is the exception)
Wrong in Florida, NC, PA, WI, MI and most other states, often by more than 5%.
>Polling accurately predicted the national vote
Was off by 1.5%, which is outside the moe for poll congregates.
>GOP barely holding on to special election seats in deep red territory
GA06 isn't deep red, in fact Trump only won it by 1%. The other ones, the GOP won handily without a lot of money.
>Wall isn't happening
This October.
>Hasn't accomplished anything
More deportations, Gorsuch, ...
>Outright abandoned populists that got him elected in favor of Goldman Sachs advisors
Trump used to work with Soros. Not a dealbreaker.
>Inflaming racial tensions even more than Obama
Good.
>Leaked calls with leaders prove he's an incompetent pushover
Obama leakers are doing something illegal.
>Army ignored his transgender ban
No definite information known.
>Favors cutting taxes on the rich and further increasing the deficit
He also favors cutting taxes FOR ALL AMERICANS while cutting spending you retard.
>Couldn't even get the GOP to repeal Obamacare
That's on McConnel and it will be repealed in 2018 at the latest.
>Factories he brought back from Mexico are moving to China instead
Fake news.
>Taking credit for the same economy she shat on in the election 6 months into his presidency
But it's doing better than ever before.

>>138401732
>Not really, particuarly if more relevant data is availible. It is. You can use 2000-16 to keep it consistent if you desire.
Why 2000-2016? That doesn't even show the full story at all. Are you mentally challenged?
>You are trying to refute my reply in response to YOUR graph. Hence 2000-16.
I already refuted you several times. The trend from 2008 to 2016 clearly shows NC moving to the right. So does from 1992 to 2016 and from 1980 to 2016.

>>138402030
Democrats need to be crushed.

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But really:

>>138402535
>SC
>light red
You what.

>>138401756
Not an argument

>>138402030
If they run Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris the Dems will undeniably lose. I'm assuming a generic white male Dem consolidates support in the primaries. This would probably hinge on how successful the Dems are in the midterms.

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>>138399737
I don't like it, but I'm at the point where I will accept this orange goblin as our Sulla.


Here's hoping it turns out better than Rome's attempt, and hopefully miles better than prolonged cucking

>>138402357
>why 2000-16
I was trying to make it easier for you. But fine. Use the whole data set and include 2016. I am waiting.

>using two data points I have refuted you
No kid. You have not. I said that the trend was from strong red to purple between 2000-16. I am correct. Now, put your money where your mouth is and run the regression.

Republican victory, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota have gotten regular approval rating growth in terms of Trump.

>>138402004
kek

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>2020 predictions more than three years in advance

Lol, fuck off. This current political climate is far too volatile for anyone to make calls that far in advance. Back in 2013, Trump was sitting at like 1/250 odds on major betting sites. If a single one of you can provide me a screenshot of a successful bet you made on Trump three years or more before the election then I will listen to your predictions. I mean shit, we didn't even have our first Trump thread until 2014 and people here thought his run was a joke until late 2015 or so. Who the fuck knows what things will look like in 2020?

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/24189770/#q24189770
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/45784177/#q45784177

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>>138376096
>prediction thread

>>138403058
>Who the fuck knows what things will look like in 2020?

This. For example, a SJW opponent and a major terror attack a few months before the election would hand Trump the election on a platter.

>>138376096
if it's Zuckerberg vs Trump, I think Trump might win regardless of the MSM's constant attacks on his character.

>inb4 there's no way Zuckerberg will win the primary
The Democrats have no one at the moment, and a self-obsessed real estate billionaire and host of a reality TV show just got elected president. My money would obviously be on him being on the ticket at this point.

>>138402765
>I was trying to make it easier for you. But fine. Use the whole data set and include 2016. I am waiting.
Why do I need to provide you anything? Do it yourself.
>No kid. You have not. I said that the trend was from strong red to purple between 2000-16. I am correct. Now, put your money where your mouth is and run the regression.
And I said there was a trend from 2008 to 2016 from light blue to light red.

>>138402004
That's the shittiest EC map I've ever seen. And that's saying something because this one >>138403177 exists

>>138403535
>>inb4 there's no way Zuckerberg will win the primary

I'm not going to be a complete retard and try and accurately predict the next few years in this climate, but I just can't see him pulling it off at all.

>>138403686
To support your claim. I know you are incorrect.

And you posted a graph showing a move from red to purple. Your subsequent analysis is wong.

2000-strong red
...
2008-barely blue
2012-barely red
2016-barely red

Thats a purple state son.

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>>138402212
1. RCP is your friend. Look at the averages 1 week before the elections

2. 1.5% is within the moe, but either way it was off by about %1. Clinton was predicted to win the popular vote by 3%, she won by 2%.

3. GA06 is reliably red for congressional elections; districts don't always follow the presidential vote.

4. The wall isn't happening. See his call with Peanut Nieto. Screen cap this for when he extends the fence late into his term and calls it a walk.

5. Deportations are slower than they were under Obama. Hasn't ended DACA even though he has the power to do so. Gorsuch was entirely do to the GOP establishment, they blocked Obama's nominee.

6. I'd call working with Soros and nominating bankers to vital posts a deal breaker. He's continuing the practices of the last several administrations.

7. Don't know what to say about this, it's politically unpopular.

8. Doesn't change what the leaks reveal.

9. There are no plans for enough spending cuts to offset the massive tax breaks. Personal income taxes in the US are already some of the lowest in the rich world.

10. It's the President's job to guide his party policy wise; Trump hasn't done that. The GOP was left without any clear guidelines with regards to what Trump wanted. He seemed disinterested in the whole thing.

11.https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2017/06/20/ford-will-move-focus-production-from-michigan-to-china/amp

12. Economy is adding less jobs than it was last year and maintain a similar growth rate.

Phoneposting sorry for the awkward format.

>>138404090
1992 - barely red
1996 - light red
2000 - strong red
2004 - strong red
2008 - barely blue
2012 - barely red
2016 - light red
I kinda see a trend towards a light red state. But obviously, you idiot can't see it.

>>138404369
Archive please https://unvis.it/forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2017/06/20/ford-will-move-focus-production-from-michigan-to-china/amp

>>138381141
literally who

>>138404369
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton-5533.html
4%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton-5659.html
7%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton-5633.html
3%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nc/north_carolina_trump_vs_clinton-5538.html
3%
>2. 1.5% is within the moe, but either way it was off by about %1. Clinton was predicted to win the popular vote by 3%, she won by 2%.
Not within moe for a poll aggregate.
>3. GA06 is reliably red for congressional elections; districts don't always follow the presidential vote.
Only for Price who was a popular candidate. And Handel won it by 4% despite it being such an expensive race.
>4. The wall isn't happening. See his call with Peanut Nieto. Screen cap this for when he extends the fence late into his term and calls it a walk.
Prototype already being built atm, money approved int he House, likely to pass the Senate aswell since even McCain will vote for anything including more gibs for military.
>5. Deportations are slower than they were under Obama. Hasn't ended DACA even though he has the power to do so. Gorsuch was entirely do to the GOP establishment, they blocked Obama's nominee.
Literally wrong, on track to deport 400k this year. Less people are coming to the border which means less turnaways. DACA can be ended anytime else. Will be ended in court. Only includes a few 100k illegals out of 12m.
>6. I'd call working with Soros and nominating bankers to vital posts a deal breaker. He's continuing the practices of the last several administrations.
He always admitted to being a former member of the swamp.

>>138390178
I'd put Ohio, Iowa, and Texas in the same category as South Carolina

>>138404369
>7. Don't know what to say about this, it's politically unpopular.
It isn't, Republicans love it, Republican-leaning indies don't really care.
>8. Doesn't change what the leaks reveal.
Most of the time, it is unverified aka could be made up shit.
>9. There are no plans for enough spending cuts to offset the massive tax breaks. Personal income taxes in the US are already some of the lowest in the rich world.
But Trump is doing spending cuts. This is all included in his budget plan.
>10. It's the President's job to guide his party policy wise; Trump hasn't done that. The GOP was left without any clear guidelines with regards to what Trump wanted. He seemed disinterested in the whole thing.
It's the job of the Senate and the Senate leader. McConnel failed Trump is not the party leader.
>11.https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2017/06/20/ford-will-move-focus-production-from-michigan-to-china/amp
Single case out of dozen others. Japan companies are building in the US. Not every job can be saved, but many can.
>12. Economy is adding less jobs than it was last year and maintain a similar growth rate.
Growth rate is higher than last year, so is jobs added.

>>138405026
These states were all won by less than 10%, that's why I put them there. That is the current status.

>>138376096
too soon

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>>138378821

>People who don't know the difference between Vermont and New Hampshire...

>>138376096
Trump will not have a second term, he even have said he doesn't like to be president like he thought

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>>138376490
>i watched 5 minutes of CNN's piece on Hillary
>i did 3 days of exhausting internet research on Trump
>I'm a well informed voter now
>Trump is the bad guy

>>138376096
>Arizona
>Blue
pick one.

>>138388738
It's only Denver and some of the majorly populated areas who are completely bluepilled. Areas like Highlands Ranch, Castle Rock, and a lot of the western counties are almost universally /pol/ tier

>>138376096
Wow, a democrat with zero understanding of demographics.

Shocking.

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Find a flaw

>>138412029
Demographics look good for us m8. Republicans only win through voter suppression and help from Russia.

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>>138376096
>Florida
>blue

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>>138376490
He certainly has. I couldn't be happier.

>>138412380
>urban trisomy 21 victim

Why didn't your mother abort you, there are clinics all over the slums for that cunt to suck you out. I would have chipped in for tubal ligation too, what a waste.

>>138412562
deplorable

>>138380163
>t. nate silver

>>138412380
>help from Russia
post proofs

>>138376096

Hahahahaha!

Poor lefty.

Just wait till 2018.

>>138412380

Wow so Russia did it?

Amazing!

How again?

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>>138376096
OP & the DNC, SJWs do not realize there was an entire youth counterculture behind the Trump Campaign and Pepe.

I would like to say good bye to the DNC you will cease to be a major party by 2020 you've caused so much infighting that the Green & Libertarian Parties will take over any seats you think you can hold on too.

Elizabeth Warren loses to actual Indian.
We will welcome Senator Kid Rock next year.

Praise Kek & Khonsu the Moon Man.

>>138402741

>refrences roman leaders to describe modern politics

Mah nigga

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>>138403377
Kek confirms this.

>>138412183
Make VA blue.

>>138412397
Why not? Trump was only ahead of Hillary there by about 1%.

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>>138412994
>MT blue
>OH blue
Please fix

>>138413378
100k more votes.

>>138377440
Have you gone to citizenship ceremonies at Hamlin university? Literally two-thirds of the auditorium were Somalians becoming US citizens. Those niggers technically have the right to vote.

>>138377253
We aren't letting g this happen again in MN. Will be red next time. No one likes our far left Governor or federal senators.
Democrats will get their asses handed to them again.
>8 YEARS FOR GOD EMPEROR TRUMP!!!

>>138378821
Lmfao

>>138386712
Fucking retard.
95% of right wing people will never ever talk to a pollster or tell a stranger what they approve or disapprove of.
You really are fucking stupid aren't you?

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>>138376096
Ladies and gentlemen, the President-Elect of the United States: Matthew Heimbach.

>>138376096
My prediction, assuming illegals get deported, wall gets built or is under construction, economy is stable, and voter fraud gets shoah'd

>>138376096
The Dems do not have a single politician that could beat Trump right now. Their only chance in 2020 is to out celeb Trump with a fucking white male, someone that is universally palatable to people in America. Someone like Tom Hanks.

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>>138417111
Lol forgot map

>>138417111
voter fraud doesn't exist m8

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>>138417111
>>138417222

ARE WE GONNA ACT LIKE THIS JUST DIDNT HAPPEN?

Double trips?? I think we have our answer folks

>>138392466
Good luck with that, old-timers will always keep their seats and young-uns will kill each other for the measly few left.

Congress is always 2 generations behind the people they supposedly represent.

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>>138417222
here's to hoping anon is right

>>138390878
Go, Swissbro, Go!

>>138376958
>Red VA
Anon I love you but wait until we have the results for the midterms and who is our Governor before you predict the path VA goes

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>>138394601
And then lose again, because they don't have numbers where it matters.

Which might actually trigger leftwing separatism.

>>138382018
This

>>138378821
Vermont, Connecticut, NY and New Mexico. Trump's more likely to win Minnesota than any of those.

>>138394090
They've spent so much on that guy there is no way they will run him for anything a second time. He'll have to raise his own cash if he decides to run. They lost 26 million on him.

>>138390089

i agree completely, except for the minnesota part; is mn becoming more red?

>>138423476
>NY

Trump is from Queens, why dont you think New Yorkers would not Vote for a fellow New Yorker?

>>138412720
Nigger

>>138388738
Not with Stabbings on the rise.

>>138376490
He's only halfway through his first year. Rome or a border wall aren't built in a day. His "chance" isn't over yet.

>>138418502
Too bad for them that they'll get fucking slaughtered by military and rednecks, then they'll finally realize why the 2nd Amendment is so important.

>>138378821
Not totally implausible, but if New York and Connecticut ever go red, shouldn't New Hampshire definitely be red?

>>138376096
where to bet on the 2020 presidential race?

>>138397587
So essentially he'd be the backwards Ross Perot? I'd love it.

>>138391315
The only way he gets IL is with mandatory voter ID. The voter fraud and corruption here would blow your mind if you knew how bad it really is.

>>138376958
My friend was the same, he regrets it and tells me "I wish I listened to you about Trump, I regret voting Clinton."

>>138392830
I thought Texas was where most conservative were relocating to, to escape liberal hellholes like CA and IL. I can confirm IL is bleeding people, mostly conservatives.

>>138394090
They're stuck in the Sunk Cost fallacy. They can't let go.

>>138396289
>Democrat victory
>Popularvotefags will defend this

>>138390521
Yes, Trump won in such a landslide even with all the vote rigging done by the Democrats they could only get ahead by 3 million. Embarrassing, really.
>>138391461
Yes, because we are a republic. What incentive would those small states have if the only places in America that had any say were New York, LA, Chicago, and Houston? Midwestern farmers have a right to be heard. I'm a Texan and my vote always counts, for Texas, as it should be. Think of your state as your country and the nation as a union, AS IT SHOULD BE.

>>138417222
I would literally cum in the polling booth if Oregon goes red. Love the state, love visiting there. Hate Portland.

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>>138417222
dupple trupples has it

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>>138376096
Trump will not win reelection. Guaranteed. BTW, I predicted Trump would win over a year before he won and many months before toothpick skeleton e-celeb man and waaay before cartoon fag-man.

The left lost because of BLM and foreign chaos with Mudslimes plus they were playing identity politics about 1.5 decades too early. This round the right will lose because of optics like Charlottesville, Richard Spencer and 14/88 faggotry, also the right isn't doing anything to gain control over the Universities, the MSM or web applications. They aren't fighting against youtube cnesorship, prefering sperglord libertardian ideology over winning.

It is 100% guaranteed the right will lose. They simply have no strategy and act like brainlet faggots. What will happen is that once the left gains texas in about 5 - 10 years suddenly the left will go FULL BLOWN sjw social justice like you have never seen or thought possible and the right will become like the current left.

Richard Spencer will retire in Japan and sip Martinis and swim around in a pool laughing to himself with some Asian qts. TRS will be banned.

Hardcore nation-wide gun restriction guaranteed, like the inner cities. Free speech and free press will be controlled through CEO's of major corporations. Real world activism will be rendered completely pointless. The left will shut down all extremist sites and create their own similar versions run by bots cat ladies and shills mostly...better than reddit but edgier on the left.

Europe will be completely dominated by Muslims and the left. Brexit will be rendered meaningless.

People to blame:

- TRS
- France
- Richard Spencer
- KKK & Nazi Larpers
- Cucks

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>>138386712

Come on man, you need to pay more attention. Don won the presidency with like a 20% approval rating. If he can keep it above 30% he may as well be running unopposed next time.

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>>138376096
>arizona
>blue
get aload of this fagget

>>138380163
>I also expect her to flip Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Arizona, and maybe even Texas.

Lol. Shill, if you fap any harder to that black bitch, your fingers will get inky.

>>138425219
NY is pretty much liberal cunt central, the second Bloomberg left and De Blasio came in, the whole damned city went down the shitter. All the boroughs with Italians, Germans, and Irishmen are now "culturally enriched" and only the Jewish neighborhoods are intact (funny how that works). The hometown advantage doesn't come to play except during the primaries, unfortunately.

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Prediction based on margins.

Maps for the incumbents have been pretty much the same as their initial election the last few times. Bush gained two states and lost one in 2004. Obama lost two states and one district in 2012.