SODOMITES BTFO

>proves
that's not what studies do, this isn't mathematics

>>138372753
>http://amazinghealth.com/13.06.24-identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexualit
it merely shows that it is not genetic.

>>138372753
Homosexuality is a fetish.
Your genetics only factor in your capacity to handle that determine that would turn you gay.

It's like how if you're born without Empathy AND you suffer a traumatic childhood you end up being a serial killer. But if you are born with Empathy then you end up being a normal person despite your traumatic childhood.

I fucking love science!

>>138373170
Do you live under a rock? (((They))) have been normalizing faggotry by calling it "inborn" and "natural" for years. This proves that its a mental condition that can likely be reversed.

>>138373170
Then what is it? Learned/adopted degeneracy? This proves fags deserved to be gassed

>>138372753
Somebody is getting fired

>>138372753
this doesn't disprove that it arises naturally, and nobody can (or ever will) prove it doesn't

>>138373496
>is as old as recorded history and arises all over the globe
>has never been reversed even once

really makes u think...

>>138373869
>this doesn't disprove that it arises naturally
>scientists literally prove that there is no "gay gene"

Go fuck a dog, cucknadian degenerate.

>has never been reversed even once
There are countless testimonies of people that did it. The church also treats faggots.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ex-gay-homosexuality-is-just-another-human-brokenness

>>138373170
It also shows that it's not prenatal, which is actually a big deal.

>>138374349
genetics is incredibly complicated, just because there isn't a specific gene (incredibly unlikely for anything sophisticated) doesn't mean it isn't instead epigenetic rather

watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6p1nmOnILA

>>138373663
this

>>138372753
This website is a bit shady and there are no sources in the article.

So how do you explain ancient greece?

>>138372753
Also, I cannot find Dr. Neil Whitehead on Google scholar* and check his h-index, so I really dunno if he's not a fraud.

*I know. (((Google))), but Peterson is there

>>138372753
A deadly choice

>>138375434
>watch this faggot youtuber talk about faggotry
>this is a credible source
Go suck a dick already and catch aids, fag. There is no gay gene, deal with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq9A40F_P10

>>138375917
1. Whitehead, NE; Whitehead,BK (1999): My Genes Made Me Do It! Huntington House, Layfayette, Louisiana. See alsowww.mygenes.co.nz.
2. Bailey, JM; Pillard,RC (1991): A genetic study of male sexual orientation. Arch. Gen. Psychiatry 48, 1089-1096.
3. Bailey, JM; Pillard,RC; Neale,MC; Agyei,Y (1993): Heritable factors influence sexual orientation in women. Arch. Gen. Psychiatry 50, 217-223.
4. Hershberger, SL (1997): A twin registry study of male and female sexual orientation. J. of Sex Research 34, 212-222.
5. Bailey, JM; Dunne,MP; Martin,NG (2000): Genetic and Environmental influences on sexual orientation and its correlates in an Australian twin sample. J. Pers. Social Psychology 78, 524-536.
6. West, DJ (1977): Homosexuality Reexamined. 4th ed. Duckworth, London.
7. Bailey, NM; Pillard,RC (1995): Genetics of human sexual orientation. Ann. Rev. Sex Research 6, 126-150.
8. Kendler, KS; Prescott,CA (1998): Cocaine use, abuse and dependence in a population-based sample of female twins. Brit. J. Psychiatry 173, 345-350.
9. Rhee, SH; Waldman,ID; Hay,DA; Levy,F (1999): Sex differences in genetic and environmental influences on DSM-III-R attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. J. Abnorm. Psychology 108, 24-41.
10. Green, R (1987). The “Sissy Boy Syndrome” and the Development of Homosexuality. Yale University Press, New Haven, Connecticut.
11. Bell, AP; Weinberg,MS; Hammersmith,SK (1981): Sexual Preference: Its Development In Men and Women. Indiana University Press, Bloomington, Indiana.

WOOPS CANT SHOW THIS ON A 2017 BOARD

>>138376578
Sources taken from this article:

http://educateforlife.org/importance-twin-studies/

>>138376820
Fuck your source here as that is some Christian bullshit (of course Christians are biased in their writings before they start them).

Also it tries to sell you shit like a PUA site for their ""(Books)"""

>>138377353
>www.mygenes.co.nz.
This site, owned by Dr Whitehead, isn´t Christian at all, faggot.

>hurr durr a christian featured science on his website, this totally makes it invalid

Repression and denial are two similar defensive mechanisms against some outer information or urges and impulses from the inside. The key difference is that repression is much healthier. Why? Because every unacceptable urge, for example a desire to fuck everything that walks, remains unnoticed by your consciousness, like it wasn't even there. Don't fool yourself that you don't have those impulses. But for some people, they reach into the conscious sphere and then the person starts to deny it until he or she embraces and becomes open about it. The reasons why this failure to repress happens is most possibly bad parenting, or exposure to various content, like 4chan, causing them to contemplate. I wasn't born a fucking ponyfag that's for sure.

>>138373170
uhhhh identical twin studies are proof that their is SOME genetic evidence, not 100% and I don't know how you could see identical twins more likely to both be gay and not come to a conclusion that it is at least partly genetic.

Also we now know that identical twins can differ in epigenetic tags, to explain discordance in sexuality despite same genetics:

Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/04/the-science-of-sexuality-how-our-genes-make-us-gay-or-straight/

http://archive.is/y64OH

https://www.advocate.com/health/2015/10/09/study-dna-identical-twins-can-reveal-whos-gay

http://archive.is/GuptB

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

http://archive.is/PSmzQ

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

Straight males carry gay genes:

http://chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

Fecundity enhances in female relatives of male homosexuals:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088

https://www.livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html

http://archive.is/32sQz

Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:

http://archive.is/g3lal

http://www.nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

Female relatives of gay men have 1.3x as many children:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/abstract

Androgen receptor gene linked to XQ28

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGEA11

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality

http://archive.is/E3my1

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>>138372753
*Homosexuality is not genetic it is EPIGENETIC

>Rice and his co-workers were more intrigued by studies showing that male and female fetuses respond differently to the hormones that surround them, even when one hormone is temporarily higher. In their study, published online today in The Quarterly Review of Biology, the authors propose that differences in sensitivity to sex hormones result from "epigenetic" changes. These are changes that affect not the structure of a gene but when, if, and how much of it is activated—by chemically altering a gene's promoter region or "on" switch, for example. Epigenetic changes at key points in the pathway through which testosterone exerts its effects on the fetus could blunt or enhance the hormone's activity as needed, the authors suggest.

>Although epigenetic changes are usually temporary, they involve alterations in the proteins that bind together the long strands of DNA. Thus, they can sometimes be handed down to offspring. According to the hypothesis, homosexuality may be a carry-over from one's parents' own prenatal resistance to the hormones of the opposite sex. The "epi-marks" that adjusted parental genes to resist excess testosterone, for example, may alter gene activation in areas of the child's brain involved in sexual attraction and preference. "These epigenetic changes protect mom and dad during their own early development," Rice says. The initial benefit to the parents may explain why the trait of homosexuality persists throughout evolution, he says.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/12/homosexuality-may-start-womb


On top of that, there is evidence that fraternal birth order affects sexual orientation as well. Studies of monozygotic twins where different zygotes receive different amounts of pre-natal testosterone exposure also support homosexuality being biological determined.

>>138372753
>Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

This is a very limited understanding of genetics. Epigenetics causes different hard-coded gene activation, which bacteria can and do trigger through the production of special enzymes etc.. Manipulation of environmental factors, such as food, exposure to pesticides and chemo cals, etc. can turn a person gay or bisexual. This means you can turn a gay or bisexual person straight if you control the factors (diet) causing abnormal behavior.

>>138376578
It's not really that good. Only the first link refers to something written by Whitehead, and it's just a book, not a peer reviewed study. Nothing really to confirm that Whitehead is actually credible.
Also, the studies Whihead is basing his reasoning on (and which are peer reviewed) are cited elsewhere and the conclusions are not so one-sided as Whitehead's.

>>138372753
I was turned gay by my uncle when I was 25 at knifepoint.

>>138377764
>This site, owned by Dr Whitehead, isn´t Christian at all, faggot.
Christian science is full of bullshit since Christians know their conclusions but then try to find evidence to prove them rather then the natural way of science (where we do not know the conclusion but we use evidence to make hypotheises and then prove or disprove them ready to throw anything in the trash that contradicts the evidence).

>>138373050
Its good enough for me, faggotry confirmed for learnt behaviour.

>>138373385

This. Read some Freud for G*d's sake.

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>>138372753
>gays were not born that way.
yeah they were raped into it by their dads

>>138378333
> I don't know how you could see identical twins more likely to both be gay and not come to a conclusion that it is at least partly genetic.
They aren´t more likely though, and even if they were, this could be explained by the influence of their faggot twin / their parents which encourages / causes their homosexual behavior.

>>138378771
>Nothing really to confirm that Whitehead is actually credible
Besides him being a succesful scientist with a PhD.

>>138379215
>Christian science is full of bullshit
I agree, but this isn´t Christian science.

>>138379574
>(((Freud)))

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>>138372753
They're gay because God gives them up(Romans 1:26-32).

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>>138379820
>FREUD IS A JEWISH FAKE HE'S NOT REAL
>HILLARY CLINTON WROTE HER THESIS ON EDWARD BERNAY, MAN WHAT AN EVIL GUY HE WAS, USING FREUD'S TECHNIQUE TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY
pick one, schlomo

>>138379221
>Its good enough for me, faggotry confirmed for learnt behaviour.

Nobody cares about that, since people are /pol/ would consider faggotry a learned behaviour even if all scientists agreed that it's 100% genetics.
The point is to have arguments to convince more rational normies who are on the fence. Why can't right-wingers understand that they are not left-wingers, they don't own the media, they can't shove their narration in people's throats. Spreading misinformation will do everyone more harm than good.
>>138379820
I don't fucking know if he's a successful scientist since I don't know his citation score. And please don't a fucking PhD fool you. Every fucking moron can get one if he's motivated enough and has a lot of time. Poland is fucking dick-full of useless PhD who know less about their given subjects than their students.

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>>138379820
>succesful scientist

he sounds pretty fringe

>>138378790
how much of a fag are you?

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>faggots choose to turn gay
Wow, massive surprise.

>>138375816
heterosexuality is a social construct.
it was created so men are more likely to produce
offspring to create a larger population. why?
to give the church money.
religion is a hustle and christians hate muslims
because their religion hustles the hardest by
making people give a 2.5% tax.
I'm winging this narrative based on info provided in this thread
this does not equate to my own views

>>138378706
>>Although epigenetic changes are usually temporary, they involve alterations in the proteins that bind together the long strands of DNA. Thus, they can sometimes be handed down to offspring. According to the hypothesis, homosexuality may be a carry-over from one's parents' own prenatal resistance to the hormones of the opposite sex.
These changes would apply for both twins, so this theory has been debunked.

>>138378712
>Manipulation of environmental factors, such as food, exposure to pesticides and chemo cals, etc. can turn a person gay or bisexual
There is literally zero proof for this.

>i was turned gay because mommy fed me too many bananas
Literally pants on head retarded. Most fags got abused as children and turned gay.

>>138380482
>heterosexuality is a social construct
SJW detected, heterosexuality is the natural hormonal reaction by humans to the opposite sex which gets perverted by learned homosexual behavior and abuse.

>>138372753
Where is that homosexual shill who keeps ruining every thread by spamming "refutations" against "homofopia".

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>>138378333
Oh you're already here.

>>138378333
It's a learnt behaviour faggot. What's more because of their shit life experiences it makes them shit parents

TEXT WALL CUNTS

Compared with children raised by their married biological parents (IBF), children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):

Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
Have lower educational attainment
Report less safety and security in their family of origin
Report more ongoing "negative impact" from their family of origin
Are more likely to suffer from depression
Have been arrested more often
If they are female, have had more sexual partners--both male and female
The high mathematical standard of "statistical significance" was more difficult to reach for the children of "gay fathers" in this study because there were fewer of them.

Children of lesbian mothers extra fucked

Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual
Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver."
Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been "physically forced" to have sex against their will
Are more likely to have "attachment" problems related to the ability to depend on others
Use marijuana more frequently
Smoke more frequently
Watch TV for long periods more frequently
Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research

>>138375816
Ubiquitous child-rape acting as a source of trauma which leads to the intense faggotry

thats obvious. the "born that way" has always been a bullshit lie.

genetics just determines how likely you are to develop in a certain way.
it does not determine exactly how you develop.
sexuality is no different.

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>>138373496
The answer can only be this. Just like feminism and Islamic terrorism, homosexuality is a form of indoctrination the kikes force on the enemy goyim. If you partake in it, you are already brainwashed and should kill yourself.

>>138380152
Did you just assume my political compass

>>138372753
i remember when i saw a thread about this mom acting appropriate when a fag couple entered a bus, and i responded to the fag OP by saying fag love is fake love.
He was so mad.

>>138372753

literally celebrating slavery. why is this allowed in 2017?

>>138381102
Wasn't Regnerus' study already debunked multiples times?

>>138379221

Since this study is good enough proof to you, how do you feel about the multiple studies that repeatedly find racist and homophobic people tend to have low cognitive ability?

>>138380943
>These changes would apply for both twins, so this theory has been debunked.
Except prenatal testosterone exposure varies between the zygotes...

>>138382023
Doesn´t matter. What you posted is not a study. It is a theoretical model that the authors acknowledge is completely untested and has no data from actual research studies.

>>138381102
You are listing a study where 1/3 of the participants were falsely classified as being raised by gay parents, when they never lived with them.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/new-research-further-debunks-regnerus-study-on-gay-parenting/

http://archive.is/Z4Gu4

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/10/new-criticism-of-regnerus-study-on-parenting-study/?utm_term=.dc5cef00d5f8

http://archive.is/SePdG

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/03/04/mark_regnerus_testifies_in_michigan_same_sex_marriage_case_his_study_is.html

http://archive.is/ehXt8

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/10/supreme-court-gay-marriage_n_2850302.html

https://archive.is/Y5erS

https://www.advocate.com/politics/prop-8/2013/03/11/debunked-antigay-parenting-study-commissioned-sway-supreme-court

http://archive.is/QVAQz

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>>138381869
yes

>>138372753
I've found that many of my outwardly gay friends have had familial issues, issues with the father figure most commonly. Closet fags and bisex is not abnormal behavior for the average self proclaimed straight male, but often suppress the wanton sexual urges of faggotry to preserve our own self-image.

If homosexuality was genetic, gay genes would have been bred out of the gene pool ages ago.

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>>138384441
http://chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

Fecundity increases in female relatives of male homosexuals:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088

https://www.livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html

http://archive.is/32sQz

Hmm interesting I'm willing to be convinced of evidence.
*checks source of article*
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2013/06/identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic/
Hmmmm, orthodoxy today, I'm sure they don't have an agenda to push which would conflict with unbiased scientific reporting. Nevertheless, let's find the original study
*checks source of that article*
http://www.hollanddavis.com/?p=3647
Hmmm, just another article from another distinctly religious website. Interesting. Do they link to any sort of peer reviewed studies?
*checks source of that article*
http://www.mygenes.co.nz/download.html
Huh, interesting, it's just some guy who wants me to give him shekels for a book. No studies or published articles or anything.

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>>138384166
>Closet fags and bisex is not abnormal behavior for the average self proclaimed straight male
Thats were you are wrong. The average straight male is extremely repulsed by it. A study has shown that being shown images of faggotry to straight males causes disgust reactions like when shown images of maggots, mold or other disgusting shit.
Its only faggots that are fucked in the head.

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>>138372753
>http://amazinghealth.com/13.06.24-identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic

OP is still a faggot, he just wasn't born that way.

>>138384603
>twin studies suggest that homosexuality is inheritable
But that is wrong, twins of faggots are only 10-14% likely to be a fag as well, which can easily be explained by sexually abusive parents or their faggot brother encouraging gay behavior. There is no statistically significant gay gene, its learned degeneracy and can be unlearned.

>>138384441

That's a pretty silly argument, there are all kinds of fatal diseases that still occur in humans.

Many things that can occur to humans may also not be hereditary, but caused by mutations or errors when the fetus is developing. There's no way for natural selection to get rid of random mutations or mutations caused by external sources.

I don't believe that there's much/any hereditary component to homosexuality, but again, that's just a silly proof for the claim.

>>138385499
Lots of studies have pegged concordance rates at 20-50% for gay identical twins.

Epigenetics can account for 70% of that variability. That is still far more than chance and far more evidence than that it is somehow 100% a choice and/or is caused by abuse.

>>138372753
Faggotry confirmed shittiest fetish?

>>138382939
>What you posted is not a study
No because you have to pay money for most recent studies, so i posted a TLDR

>>138386083
you can post a doi which people can enter into sic-hub.bz and everyone can read all recent studies there.

>>138386015
Wouldn't scat be the shittiest fetish?

>>138386409
2nd place goes to fags then.

>>138372753
No shit Sherlock. Did people actually buy that crap? The Left are the most anti-scientific faggots in the world. They say anything and claim to have science to back it up and it always turns out to be opinions without any data.

You would think they would have found the gay gene already, but they aren't even looking for it b/c they know it doesn't exist.

Same thing goes for all those 5-10 year olds thinking their transgendered. The parents influenced the child to act like that and they pretend it just happened. Only mentally retarded faggots fall for the lies.

>>138372753
This literally falls right into the left's narrative. This BTFOs Homophobes. HAHAHAHA

>>138372753
How do you know their genes don't make you can more susceptible to be coming homosexual? Also, who chooses to be gay? There's literally no benefit except death via AIDS.

>>138372753
>choice
>natural born
>mental disorder
It's still sex with 2 consenting adults, so why care? Study how it happens, just so we can know fore posterity. Only give a fuck when they do something with children/animals/corpses/cannibalism/snuff/rape.

>>138385985
>Lots of studies have pegged concordance rates at 20-50% for gay identical twins.
This is the compiled data of 6 studies on the issue.

>Epigenetics can account for 70% of that variability.
Epigenetics are basically unknown territory, and it is unlikely that they even cause male / female differentiation, let alone sexual orientation. Your numbers mean nothing.

>>138386083
Nigger there is no study that proves this, because there are no tests and no research data from study probands. Find me the study that backs this theory with evidence.

What Whitehead has to say about this:
"known congenital malformations which are epigenetic in origin occur much less frequently in the population than homosexuality. If the prevalence of these malformations is typical of epigenetic processes, this is a numerical argument that same sex attraction is not primarily caused by prenatal epigenetics."

"The paper brings together a wide range of knowledge from many fields, and establishes a possible role for epigenetics. But firm results are needed from eager researchers in those fields before it can be said that epigenetics has anywhere near a predominant role in male/female differentiation, let alone sexual orientation. In my view this paper risks joining the many other efforts to show a powerful biological causality in homosexuality, all of which have failed."

>>138372753
>Choice
>Biological

Who cares? You're still going to hell forever.

>>138387157
>implying hell is real
>believing in adult faerie tales

>>138386997
> Only give a fuck when they do something with children
Most fags are pedophiles, too. Once you let in this demon, the other ones follow too.

Mike Pence is charging his batteries somewhere.

Sexuality is a complex thing but the whole "daddy fucks son" fetish is a surprisingly honest admission of where this deviation originates.

Homos fail to fully develop their masculine self (for one reason or another) and remain stuck in a state between child and man. They need dick to fill the void in this state of Limbo.

>>138372753
>being gay is a choice
No shit, why do you think they want to indoctrinate kids? Think about it.

>>138387004
He clearly is cherry-picking or misconstruing data then. There are multiple studies showing a rate from 20 to 50%.

http://archive.is/PSmzQ

>>138387708
Kallman obtained 85 male index cases who were predominantly or exclusively homosexual, members of a twinship, and over the age of 20. Of these 85 index cases, 40 were monozygotic twins, and 45 were dizygotic twins, although no mention is made of tests administered to prove zygosity. The exact method of recruitment is unclear from the report, but it is stated that "the search for potential index cases was organized not only with the aid of psychiatric, correctional, and charitable agencies, but also through direct contacts with the clandestine homosexual world."
Each index case and his cotwin were given a Kinsey rating from 0 (exclusive heterosexuality) to 6 (exclusive homosexuality), although the precise method by which these ratings were obtained is, again, unclear.

For the dizygotic twins, Kallman found a concordance rate of 11.5% (3/26) for predominant homosexuality (Kinsey ratings 3-6), and 42.3% (11/26) for any homosexuality (Kinsey ratings 1-6). These figures exclude 19 of the 45 dizygotic index twins, 14 of whom had female twins, and 5 of whom had unclassified male twins (deceased or otherwise unavailable).

For the monozygotic twins, a very different picture emerged. Of the 37 index cases whose cotwins were classified, all were concordant for homosexuality (Kinsey ratings 3-6); a concordance rate of 100%. Kallman noted that "the majority of one-egg pairs not only are fully concordant as to the overt practice and quantitative rating of their aberrant sex pattern, but they even tend to be very similar in both the part taken in their individual sex activities and the visible extent of feminized appearance and behavior displayed by some of them" (Kallman's italics). He also pointed out that most of these twins had "developed their sexual tendencies independently and often far apart from each other, and that all of them deny categorically any history of mutuality in overt sex relations."

http://www.tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html

fags are gay

If it really is a choice, then why would you ever make that choice in the first place?

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>>138387411
That's an awfully slippery slope you're talking about there anon. There's nothing stopping rational people from drawing the line at consenting adults and your fear of pedo boogeymen doesn't make them any more likely to be accepted by said rational individuals.

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>>138387797
Maybe he is pulling data from tiny studies?

>>138372753

Yeah, it's a fetish that's passed on when men rape boys.

Pretty simple. Stop the rape, stop the gay.

>>138387756
gays are faggots

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>>138387842
>That's an awfully slippery slope you're talking about there anon.
The slippery slope began when (((they))) made homosexuality legal in the 60s and normalized it. Next came transgenderism, and pedophilia will be next. Just look at what kikes Judith Levine have been trying to do.

>rational people
>fags
>rational
Pick one.

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>>138373496
>This proves that its a mental condition that can likely be reversed.

>>138375816
They ducked the boys into being gay. I don't think sexual orientation is a choice but I don't consider genetics a prerequisite for that either. Whatever it is it isn't chosen. Whether it can be altered is uncertain but wouldn't contradict that either.

>>138388218
Title: Homosexual Orientation in Twins: A Report on 61 Pairs and Three Triplet Sets

Authors: Frederick L. Whitam, Ph.D.,1 Milton Diamond, Ph.D.,2,3 and James Martin, BA.1

Published in: Archives of Sexual Behaviour, Vol. 22, No. 3, 1993

Twin pairs in which at least one twin is homosexual were solicited through announcements in the gay press and personal referrals from 1980 to the present. An 18-page questionnaire on the “sexuality of twins” was filled out by one or both twins. Thirty-eight pairs of monozygotic twins (34 male pairs and 4 female pairs) were found to have a concordance rate of 65.8% for homosexual orientation. Twenty-three pairs of dizygotic twins were found to have a concordance rate of 30.4% for homosexual orientation. In addition, three sets of triplets were obtained. Two sets contained a pair of monozygotic twins concordant for sexual orientation with the third triplet dizygotic and discordant for homosexual orientation. A third triplet set was monozygotic with all three concordant for homosexual orientation. These findings are interpreted as supporting the argument for a biological basis in sexual orientation.

KEY WORDS: homosexuality; twins; triplets; sexual orientation; genetics.

>>138388173

Ask every homosexual.

They'll say they had sexual relations with men as a kid in the least.

>>138373050

It is maths 100% of identical twins have the exact same DNA of the times one of those twins where gay the other twin was also gay only 11% of the time proving that homosexuality is a learned fetish /preference >>138373869
That's exactly what this proves if it ain't in your DNA it's a learned behaviour
Gay leaf btfo by science

>>138388336
I did not.

>>138388356
It wasn't 11%:

I dug up the research article it's probably referring to. It says nothing of what that article says, and makes Whitehead sound like a hypocrite.
The most striking difference between our results and those of past twin studies of sexual orientation concerns the probandwise concordance rates. In a recent review the lowest concordances for single-sex MZ samples were 47% and 48%, for men and women, respectively. In contrast, our MZ concordances were 20% and 24%, respectively, for the strict criterion that is most similar to those used in prior studies. These rates are significantly lower than the respective rates for the two largest prior twin studies of sexual orientation: for men, 52%, (N = 550) = 8.2, and for women, 48% (N = 1,115). This suggests that concordances from prior studies were inflated because of concordance-dependent ascertainment bias.

Consistent with several studies of siblings , we found that sexual orientation is familial. In contrast to most prior twin studies of sexual orientation, however, ours did not provide statistically significant support for the importance of genetic factors for that trait. This does not mean that our results support heritability estimates of zero, though our results do not exclude them either. Our findings are also consistent with moderate to large heritabilities for both male and female sexual orientation, and the confidence intervals of our estimates include estimates from earlier studies. Our findings demonstrate the necessity of very large sample sizes to resolve familial variance into its genetic and shared environmental components, when one is studying traits with unfavorable distributions, such as sexual orientation.

>>138388331

>60 percent
>30 percent

Needs to be 100 percent

Environmental factors are the likely cause.

>>138387728
These very complex comparisons of identical twins and non-identical twins definitively rule out genetic determinism. Identical twins with identical genes are about 11-14% concordant for SSA. If homosexuality were “genetic,” identical co-twins of homosexual men and women would also be homosexual 100% of the time. In classic twin studies the genetic fraction is less than 23% for men and 37% for women, and may be as low as 10%. Twin studies continue to find steadily lower genetic input into homosexuality as methodology improves and samples become larger. Everyone has at least a 10% genetic influence in their behaviour— because without genes there can be no human behaviour of any kind. Twin studies show that individualistic reactions to chance events (in which one identical twin reacts differently from the other) are by far the strongest contributors to homosexuality. In other words personal individual reactions to random events are a strong factor.

A scan of the whole genome has not found any homosexual genes, unlike the case for schizophrenia (which has still only identified 4 genes linked to 3%of schizophrenia.)
From an understanding of gene structure and function there are no plausible means by which genes could dictate SSA (or other behaviours) in a person.
So far, genetically dictated behaviours of the “one-gene-one-trait” variety have been found only in very simple organisms. Generally, geneticists agree that many genes (from at least five or six to many hundreds) contribute to any particular human behaviour.
Any genetic influence is believed to be weak and indirect.

>>138388590
Lol any percentage beyond 5% or so indicates increased likelihood vs. chance. You are a fool.

>>138372753
Absolutely agree.

I'm somewhat bisexual and I believe it had something to do with the fact that my dad used to pee with the door open when I was young. I'd see my dad, walk in, and look at his enormous dick. Shit makes an impression man. I imagine if I had been molested it would have only been worse.

>>138388650
How was that 11-14% obtained? I see no such figure in any study. Ranges are from 20-100 percent.

>>138388549
>I did not.

No?

I bet you did. I bet you were raped too.

I also bet you had parents pushing you to a specific way of being.

>>138388793
You are creepy as hell and wrong.

>>138372753
I don't care either way, t b h. It needs to stop. In one case they're poor souls and in the other choosing to an aberration. It is hedonistic. Plain and simply. I no more want straight couples flaunted everywhere then I do anything else. Keep that shit on lockdown. It's not fucking hard.

>>138388336
It's true, most of them I have known personally were molested.

My aunt is also a lesbo because she was molested.

>>138372753
>Dr. Neil Whitehead
>Whitehead
>White
>WHITE

Dis be raysic!!!

>>138388696

No

It needs to be 100 percent, because the kids are identical. Correlation (not 100 percent) isn't causation.

Btw, it's ok to be gay. Just don't rape boys or push it.

>>138388793
This. If he didn´t get molested when he was too young to remember it, he will at least have gotten severe beatings and emotional abuse.

>>138388819

It's ok, anon.

People will help you if you ask them.

It doesn't make you weak if someone raped you.

>>138388336
If it weren't true then gays would have no need to teach (brainwash) kids.
This transgender epidemic plays a key role in this. It allows the sexual exploitation of children.

>>138388184
>rational people
>fags
>rational
Yes anon, the only people who don't give a shit about what adults do in their bedroom are fags. Seems legit.

The fear that pedophilia will actually become accepted is pretty hilarious. Crazy ass liberals tried that shit in the 70's and 80's with their 'no judgement sexual freedom' movements. And guess what? People realized that that shit was actually fucked up, even liberals eventually realized that that shit was fucked up. How's NAMBLA doing these days? It's a joke and its membership is probably 80% FBI agents. There's literally nobody defending pedos. All I saw from a cursory google of this levine person is someone saying that having sexual experiences as a kid/teen isn't going to ruin your life. Which is a bit of a no shit for anyone that ever played doctor or had sex in high school. Which I'm guessing is a slim proportion of /pol/ given the sexually repressed attitudes that are so common here. She's not literally advocating for adult/child intercourse or sexuality as far as I saw. Feel free to link me some stuff to the contrary.

>>138388549
Give it up already queer

>>138388696
>>138388778
>How was that 11-14% obtained?
Those are Whiteheads figures. Either way, it needs to be 100% in every case. If its not, parental abuse and the influence of the twin that became gay first will be the explanation.

100% would mean there is a gay gene, everything else proves that it comes from nurture.

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>>138372753
>Identical twins have the same genes or DNA.

Gays are gay because pic. That's why genetics doesn't explain it.

>>138388962
Lol wut. Even a 100% correlation is not causation. They don't imply each other at any rate. Your understanding of basic statistical principles is sorely lacking.

>>138389381
Show me where the data actually says that. Everything I could find suggested he was misreading studies. If we GENEROUSLY assume the chances of 2 people, independently, being gay are 5% even 10% means double the likelihood of being gay when found in di or mono zygotic twins.

I linked plenty of studies that found much higher concordances and the number does not have to be 100%. That simply indicates factors in the womb are also at play and epigenetic tags can account for 70% of the variability in homosexuality in twins.

>>138388356
that's not a mathematical proof, that's evidence

>>138389387
>could

kys

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>>138372753

One way to deal with gays, that self hating fag who did the orlando nightclub knew what had to be done.

>>138389196
>Yes anon, the only people who don't give a shit about what adults do in their bedroom are fags
Fags are mentally ill, their rationality is below average, is what i was saying. They are also statistically more often pedophiles.
A good rule of thumb is they have 3 times as many problems. All are prone to suicide attempts. Otherwise problems are mostly depression and other mood disorders for men and substance abuse problems for women, though there are many others.

>All I saw from a cursory google of this levine person is someone saying that having sexual experiences as a kid/teen isn't going to ruin your life.
Retarded understatement. She is a kike trying to normalize pedophilia by implying that small children can give consent. Its the typical tricks, retard.

Also, saying that its impossible for pedophilia to ever be normalized is pretty broad coming from someone that lives in a country where you can legally fuck dogs and have to refer to people to their made up pronouns,

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>>138388696
100% because twins are clones of each other

the day of the rope will come for you child molesting faggot

>>138372753
I don't care about fags but I read this critique of Whitehead's work by someone who used to advocate for reparative therapy:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2009/09/04/brain-plasticity-and-sexual-orientation-train-it-to-gain-it/

Homosexuality is caused by pedophilia. Case closed.

>>138389733
>I linked plenty of studies that found much higher concordances and the number does not have to be 100%.
Yes it does retard, their DNA is the same. There is no gay gene and there is no proof, not even evidence that epigenetics are the reason for a change in sexual orientation, as observable epigenetic anomalies are extremely rare, too rare to explain why such a drastic change happens in up to 3% of the population.

>>138372753
Every gay guy i have known thought the same, as proven by them thinking they can turn straight guys.

>>138391242
But I was never subjected to any kind of pedophilia

>>138391285
Fecundity increases in female relatives of male homosexuals:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088

http://www.nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

>>138391421
Not any that you can remember

>>138381893

it does not surprise. see fable The Emperor's New Clothes. low cogs are just calling shit what it is. smart people engage in cultural marxist sophistry

>>138391421
You just forgot about it, your subconscious knows. Or your parents regularly beat you up and emotionally abused you, especially your father.

>>138391451
You don´t even understand the studies you post. There is no gay gene, the article you posted even states this:

>We already know there is no 'gay gene',” says William Rice, an evolutionary geneticist at the University of California, Santa Barbara. If there were, he says, it would have turned up in one of the massive studies that scan the whole genome for variants shared between gay people. The largest such study, led by Sanders, looked at 409 pairs of gay brothers including some non-identical twins. The researchers found that gay men shared similarities in two areas of the genome: the X chromosome and chromosome 83. But Sanders says that he and his colleagues are still trying to determine which particular genes or other components in these regions contribute to sexual orientation.

And this is no proof for epigenetics influencing sexual orientation:

>Vilain acknowledges limitations of the study — for instance, epigenetic markers differ between tissues in the body, and those in the brain are probably most relevant to sexual orientation.

>Researchers also caution that just as known genetic associations offer scant insight into the mechanisms of sexual orientation, little can be concluded from the locations of the epi-marks. One mark was associated with a gene in the immune system, a second with brain development. The other three were in regions of DNA that are not associated with any gene.

These researchers were grasping for the last straw, but it doesn´t change the fact that faggotry is basically vampirism: A faggot rapes a little boy, he becomes a faggot as well. Or his parents abuse him or influence him in a way that he never becomes masculine and replaces the missing masculinity by looking for father figures which he is sexually attracted to.

Identical twins don't just share DNA, they also share a womb environment. There is evidence that probability of being gay is linked to the amount of androgen in the womb environment. Since the fact of one gay twin dramatically increases the probability of the other also being gay (from 2% up to 14%) this could be evidence that a particular concentration of androgen in the womb environment increases the chance of a developing foetus being gay. So, born this way after all, but not conceived this way.

>>138379574
Freud is non-scientific bullshit.

T. psychologist my self.

>>138384603
>undermining Darwin much

>>138392432
Source, seems like bullshit since i haven´t heard about that ever. Also, if the Androgen is the same amount for both twins and they are genetically the same, the Androgen should make them both react in the same way.

The likelyhood of the other twin becoming gay is a result of him growing up in the same environment of parental abuse and / or his twin being gay as well, which encourages gay impulses.

>>138392345
I never said there was one gene that directly governs homosexuality.

I'm a bisexual and here's my story.

My homosexual instincts have been a terrible curse on my life. They have brought me nothing but sadness and sorrow. If there was a cure I could take I absolutely would without hesitation. Unfortunately right now the only thing I can do is abstain from my filthy desires.

Don't let gay people fool you. Being gay is never a good thing. It's not fun, it's not a happy life, it's just a curse.

Gay people die at a younger age than almost everyone else. I've seen it happen. Gay people do more drugs and drink more. There is more domestic abuse and suicide. Most gay people are perpetually unhappy. It's a miserable life.

Gay men are pathological liars who think nothing of giving someone a disease just because they need to satisfy their sexual addiction. And don't let anyone fool you, homosexuality is a sick addiction. That's why they go out and have random, unprotected sex with complete strangers. This is why they have thousands of partners. This is why homosexuality eventually degrades into total depravity.

Homosexuality is a mental illness. Just look at any gay personals page if you want proof for yourself. You'll see tons of daddy shit, pig play, scat, and other extremely deviant shit. This is the true face of the gay community.

Having homosexual instincts was the worst thing that ever happened to me. I would do anything to be rid of them. Growing up people always knew I was a bit queer and it caused me nothing but trouble.

I believe my gay curse began when I was exposed to pornography at a very young age. I also had a domineering mother, and I was inappropriately touched by older boys. All of this led to my current condition.

Don't let any of these gays lie to you. Being gay is fucking HORRIBLE.

>>138392432
Or it could simply increase because the twins grow up in the same 'not so optimal' environment

>>138393098
Bump. Because this needs to be heard

>>138373385
empathy is genetic...........

>>138388549
bro no need to be salty, you are gay because of your experiences not your genes why do you protest?

>>138393098
Bump. Post more please.

>>138393098
>and I was inappropriately touched by older boys

Anon... a red pilled therapist could help you, that shit is not going away on its own

>>138390900
>the day of the rope
lmao
underrated

>>138373050
somehow studies prove there are fifty genders but can't prove homosex is genetic

>>138372753
Science only proves what common sense people already understood for centuries.
That's why Easter Europeans are very aggressive towards any kind of normalisation of homosexuality or even putting it on pedestal.
That's why Russia has outlawed homosexual propaganda towards minors.
You can propagandise adults with homosexual shit, but at this point it's already to late to fuck them up and jews know it.
Frankly, we should have the same policies here. Too many trannies, faggots and all kinds of batshit insanity even involving kids these days here because we disregard common sense.

>>138393806
studies can't prove either

>>138380943
>There is literally zero proof for this.

Homosexual behavior has been witnessed in birds upon exposure to mercury.

https://www.google.com/amp/relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/news/2010/12/101203-homosexual-birds-mercury-science

So you're saying that if I used bacteria and chemicals to directly alter your body's microbiota in order the indirectly alter your brain chemistry, I couldn't mind control you into doing some freaky deaky shit like taking a dick up the ass?

>bacteria in the human body produce and consume brain chemicals
>is one reason why fluoride added to drinking water causes submissive behavior as fluoride is an antimicrobial agent, suppressing and altering the human body's normal microbiota
>is one reason why prescription medications have different side effects from person to person
>a microbiota is one reason why each person is a walking chemlab

>>138393646
Who knows if he'll be able to find one. That kind of therapy has been outlawed in 10 states so far.

>>138372753
Holy shit, praise be! Now we have the scientific backing required to justify killing all homos on sight! FUCK YEAH!

>>138394229
>https://www.google.com/amp/relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/news/2010/12/101203-homosexual-birds-mercury-science

The team did not have funding, for example, to examine whether taking mercury out of the birds' diets would stop the homosexual behavior.

But "my suspicion is none of the effects we saw are likely to be permanent," Frederick said. In general, mercury flushes from a bird's body within weeks if the animal isn't consistently exposed.

Frederick also emphasized that the study has no ramification for humans.

"There's a great tendency to extrapolate this study in an offhand fashion to mean, Oh if you eat mercury, you're going to be gay," he said.

In addition, the researchers can't say for sure whether homosexual behavior occurs in wild birds exposed to mercury.

>>138377847
>implying guilt about repression doesn't exist

> I wasn't born a fucking ponyfag that's for sure.
you arent a ponyfag, you just hate yourself, ponyfagging is what you think you deserve for being so shit

>>138395163
>The team did not have funding, for example, to examine whether taking mercury out of the birds' diets would stop the homosexual behavior

why do you think this was?
I think it has sth t do with this:
>There's a great tendency to extrapolate this study in an offhand fashion

>>138394229
>So you're saying that if I used bacteria and chemicals to directly alter your body's microbiota in order the indirectly alter your brain chemistry, I couldn't mind control you into doing some freaky deaky shit like taking a dick up the ass?
No, because this behavior is based on trauma in childhood, not drugs. If there was a gay drug, somebody would have found it. There are also no gays which were straight for a long time and then suddenly turned gay due to a diet change or exposure to some sort of metal.

>birds
Birds have zero impulse control. Animals do all kinds of weird degenerate shit. This story has also no ramifications for humans, as the experts themselves said.

>>138394535
Source?

So in burgerland if a tranny goes to a therapist to repair his maleness (and avoid dick choppings), said therapist is going to be arrested? That'd be state mandated mental dysfunction

>>138396166
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._jurisdictions_banning_conversion_therapy_for_minors

>>138372753
>A FUCKING LEAF

>>138372753
Xq28 gene. Nobody cares. Which "noice" may may rape woman raped you into clam digger-ology? Heteropaternal superfecundation and serpent seed. You fucked up the world. Eve laid the devil and had "twins" too. Not same genetics though. Oops and oh well. Tough titties for you

>>138380356
No they don't choose to.
Most of them were raped as kids.

>>138372753
>159 posts

shit, I guess I'm 'in after mental illness defending their mental illness'

>>138398567
Gays are not sodomites or pedos or molech whores. OP and all his grab em fucken supporters, are
>trusting pear earth mother fuckers
Can't we go 20 minutes without one of these threads? How many times do I need to repeat all this stuff? You think you got your womany dick obsessions all figured out, don't you, fucking faggot OP?

>>138372753
uhhh yeah come on tho

>>138372753
The Bowling Green massacre is a fictitious incident alluded to by U.S. Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway in interviews with Cosmopolitan and TMZ on January 29, 2017, and in an interview on the MSNBC news program Hardball with Chris Matthews on February 2, 2017. Conway cited it as justification for a travel and immigration ban from seven Muslim-majority countries enacted by United States President Donald Trump. However, no such massacre occurred. The day after the interview, Conway said she misspoke and had been referring to the 2011 arrest of two Iraqi refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky on charges including "attempting to provide material support to terrorists and to al-Qaeda in Iraq".[1] She stated that she had mentioned the incident because it led President Barack Obama to tighten immigration procedures for Iraqi citizens.

The misstatement went viral and became the top trending topic on Twitter, with many tweets parodying it. A website was set up anonymously for the purpose of collecting donations for supposed victims. Facebook users used the site's safety check feature to act as if the event were real. Vigils were held in Kentucky and New York in commemoration. It provoked widespread press reaction, with many relating it to Conway's earlier use of the phrase alternative facts to describe false statements by White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer in the wake of the inauguration of Donald Trump.

>>138398699
What mental illness? Your daddy issues and cigar sucking? There's no evidence for any of that crapola

>>138372753
>stop talking about your sexuality
>constantly talks about mine in a negative light and his own in a dindu light
How convenient

I think homosexuality is probably something someone can be genetically predisposed to. But it takes a triggering event. Interest of some sort shown by a same-sex person after denial by opposite-sex interests. Or rape.

My bro-science requires no citation.

Goddammit Mike Pence was right all this time, electroshocks for all those faggots

>>138398567
>Xq28 gene
Debunked through the twin studies.

>faggot talking about adam and eve
Lmfao, their mental illness knows no limits.

>>138398709
>Gays are not sodomites or pedos or molech whores.
They are literally all of these things.

>>138399303
Truvada. We can reproduce. We were blessed. You dont use the biblical terms you use your own. Enjoy your grievance circle of chinese communist rabbis and fertility cults. We love to ignore the passages like the 144K that make us look bad. And deflect our own shit onto Freduian "gays". What the fuck am i your freak show to stare at and to study? Im not here to enable you at my expense. Your cheap pussies maybe, that nobody wants. But nothing else

>>138372753
They know the science is pointing this way thats why theyre change it to everyone is gay its on a spectrum etc

>>138399487
You post frogs. Trump is the antichrist. Nothing was refuted. Refute your pear earth you said was irrefutable. I dont post frogs. From pedophilia to fall of man to serpent seed to real interpretations to God knows whatever else. You make a mockery. You made an occupation of it. You think you dont sin, vagina cuck? Fucker of the devil's sloppy seconds? Hrm? End is like beginning and you did both. What do born eunuchs mean in relation to Christ or Adam and Eve like I just said and you claim I'm "not allowed" to talk about like the blessed Ethiopian? They mean exactly all of what I just said. The republigoyim logo are molech stars

>>138399606
Everybody's not gay? News to me. Look how you all talk and act and behave and try to cover up. We dont give a shit and why should we. And have balls. You are nothing but feminism enablers

I once read something like this, like genes only gives you a predisposition to be gay but most likely inter utero epigenetic factors are what triggers it. Still isnt the fag fault

In any case pre born or post Born it diesnt matter, you dont choose what you like or are attracted to

>>138399807
>You think you dont sin, vagina cuck?
I am not the subject here, but you are a filthy, disgusting sodomite reprobate and should be put to death, like the bible tells us. To me, its funny that you talk about religion. You will burn in hell.

>>138399991
This. Good for you, real man with testicles. It takes A LOT these days to cut through this bullshit. Thank you very much. God Bless you. I'm on to other things now

>>138400056
There are no levitical priests left. That wasnt written for laymen. Says as you lieth. I dont lieth women at all. Might have meant female beds. Was right beside molech passages again. Means a foreign practice to ancient israelites. The fuck do i care. The law is a curse. Go eat more bacon cheeseburgers and have anal and tooth jobs and get pissed on and call it cum and eat fungus and zika and super gonorrhea and ineffective truvada and period blood and snot and protozoa

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>>138372753

So I've spent the last 10 years trying to rid myself of my homosexuality. Tried everything from conversion therapy (by a church and by a renowned therapist) as well as a plethora of off-label medications.

Nothing worked. I've been forcing myself to like women my entire life. All it did was increase my depression/anxiety/etc through the roof. I've gone through numerous failed relationships because of this and have done astronomical levels of emotional damage to many women who had the misfortune of meeting me.

Explain to me why god would put me on this earth with an untreatable condition that damns me to a life in hell?


Where's the logic in that?

Anyone?

>>138396063
Actually, it is a pretty good hypothesis. How do we know bisexual behavior isn't someone "turning gay", where they fluctuate between craving the pussy and cock? Exposure to metal alone may not be adequate. Different metals have different antimicrobial properties and deposit differently in the human body. Dietary change would have to be drastic and consistant for 3+ months in order to majorly change an individual's microbiota. There are no studies that have tested this. Even in the homosexual birds' study they didn't bother removing mercury from their diet or revisiting the study to do this, which the reasons are obvious as it would reveal biological warfare being waged on the general population.

You act as if humans are above animalistic tendencies. Most people have horrible impulse control, which is one reason why they like instant gratification. You'd be surprised as to how little conscious control people have. Much of the foods people crave is because the dominant bacteria making up their microbiota end up chemically signaling for them to consume it in order to maintain the ideal environment and proliferate.

>>138400356
You are here to help them. Pedos and rabbis convinced them you are the enemy so they could worship their snake daddy at your expense. That is all. They do everything they criticise you for. And suck rug box and dumpster cock. All at the same time. Walking puddles of male hating estrogenic vagisil overdosers

>>138372753
>>138375058
This changes the solution to the homosexual problem completely. If it were genetic, we would gave had to let them have their life and not force them to propagate their genes in traditional families. Now we know we must contain them so that straight people aren't exposed to them. Finding out the causes is still important.

>>138400356
What kind of therapy did you go through?

>>138373452
SCIENCE RULES

>>138400552
Go take a midol. You say you "would have had to". But now that HIV is preventable and curable with a drug. Do you stop with the aids may mays? Fuck no. You just love to hear yourselves talk and get secret scat gay porn boners. Your own pornos, you think are gay. You made feminine penis a popular meme and then dont understand vaginismus

>>138399991
>you dont choose what you like or are attracted to
You chose to not get treated. There are ex-homosexuals, and many things point to homosexuality being one of the worst mental illnesses there are. Just look at this faggot >>138400317.

There are ex-homosexuals, and they are all happy that they got fixed. By saying that its natural you say that nothing is wrong with them and that they don´t need to change.

>>138400317
Whatever, you should be put to death, shit eating cumdumpster.

>>138400671
We're all going to see soon just how fucky is séance. I mean "science". In a little bit methinks

>>138400356
>mentions god
>asks for logic
Silly faggot

>>138400780
You have a pagan flag. Mine is sign of covenant. No wonder you say whatever and repeat yourself. You dont get to talk about this. You make no sense. You are having out of body experiences because of my dick and the fact you killed yourself for women and for a circumjewsion and matrilineal isisrael isis shekinah hoax rabbis but you have no arguments

>>138400623

Years and years of trying to get me to view other men as nonsexual. I even did 2 months of "conversion therapy" in Russia where I was required to have sex with Russian prostitutes daily.

The urge/attraction towards other males never went away though. I was able to block it out for a few months at a time but it always comes back.

>>138401014
>You are having out of body experiences because of my dick and the fact you killed yourself for women and for a circumjewsion and matrilineal isisrael isis shekinah hoax rabbis but you have no arguments
AIDS - medication seems to have strong side effects. Or maybe all the shit-eating fucked up your brain even more.

being gay is a lifestyle choice, hence why we have OP

>>138401338
Look up anything ive said and be disgusted. Theyre all biologically possible. Im not on those. They exist. But no need. There never was. You dont have any diseases? You know nothing about anatomy and whats it like to get your self worth off another person's dick? Get the fuck out of my face stacy

>>138380482
>>heterosexuality is a social construct.
>>it was created so men are more likely to produce offspring to create a larger population.

Faggot detected!

>>138401485
Gays can reproduce. The remphan star symbolises benisbagoo. But king david was a bisexual nephilim slayer so we call the remphan star the star of "david" instead

>>138400750
HIV-farm flag posts are always unintentionally funny.

>>138400750
83% of the homosexuals will have more than 50 sexual partners over their lifetime. 43% of the homosexuals will have more than 500 sexual partners.
https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
With a pool this large it is not long until the virus mutates and learns to beat drugs. Your drug might treat the symptom, but the problem remains that there are homosexuals, and deep down most of them want to be heterosexuals. But instead of really trying to help them, you just encourage them to accept something they never really will be able to, like here >>138400488 because all you care about is see how all the people seem happy, not whether they actually are happy.

>>138401614
No such thing God damned 700 women HIV cuck charlie sheen constantly losing. What about michael douglas with all his pussified throat cancer? Give yourself some ass cancer make everybody proud. Then convert to womanhood

>>138401468
AIDS truly is god´s wrath. I hope you die and go to hell. Fucking scat obsessed cocksucking reprobate.

>>138401036
From what I've read from the few therapists who openly write on this subject that really isn't the way to do it. You cannot force anything, the rejection of SSA should be part of the natural process of healing your male self.

http://www.josephnicolosi.com/fathers-of-male-homosexuals/

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>>138401686
>61% divorce rate
I dont go by stats. I dont judge people. Thats not my job. Im not in those boxes so thats all that matters to me. Freud said homophobes have daddy issues and that heteros used to be defined by him ad abnormal. Do you listen to those parts? No. Only anything else he spouted off about. Hypocrites. Golden rule. Logs and splinters

>>138373496
This guy is right, they have been saying its natural, innate and/or genetically based as an excuse since the start. In fact it was always the main excuse, " I cant help it, I was born this way ". That excuse no longer works

>>138372753
My theory is that fags were molested as children. A parasite then enters their body and changes them causing them to do vile disgusting things to continue, creating the new generation of homos.

>>138401775
For this cause. Worshipping reptiles. Still with the two sphincters impossible shit eating while he fucks open gash sores and wounds and does the same things. I dont do the reptile worship. Minus anything else you do and i dont. Your time is up. Adam and eve caused the fall. It was sexual. She laid another species. Thats it! You are DEFILED! DEFILED! YOURE the fucking reprobate. Youre anachronistic and a fucking projecting memeing asshole devil worshipper and liar

Homosexuality is culturally transmitted by exposure to homosexuality during formative years, by homosexual child or adolescent abuse, by seeing or hearing about homosexual activity during the confusing years of adolescence, and by receiving any promotion of homosexual identity.

Being accepting of open homosexuality seems like being kind to existing homosexuals, but it is being cruel to the next generation, who will be afflicted with higher rates of homosexuality, and the corresponding barrenness, disease, domestic abuse, mental illness, and general unhappiness.

Children and adolescents should be zealously shielded from any exposure to homosexuality or even the idea of homosexuality.

This was common sense until very recently.

>>138400434
>How do we know bisexual behavior isn't someone "turning gay", where they fluctuate between craving the pussy and cock?
Because bisexual are just self-hating gays. They become this way in their childhood because of trauma. There aren´t any 30 year olds that suddenly go "i am bisexual now".

>>138402141
If God wanted us to realise this he would have made it impossible or painful or without any rewards. Kind of like piss on you im "cumming" women or their noprostate assholes you fuck anyways. But He didn't. They feel like bliss

>>138378333
And by "some" you mean "very little". Concordance of homosexual orientation in identical twins is at best ~10%. It could be as little as zero or as much 30%, which suggests that heredity has very little and possibly nothing to do with homosexual orientation.

>>138372753
Does Rick and Mortey agree with this? Everone knows that all real science appears on shows like Rick and Morty and the Big Bang Theory.

>>138402321
You wanna discuss what causes your woman enabling? Ofc not

propaganda and culture can also increase faggotry.

anyone who believes there are more faggots because "they comin out" is super naive

>>138402645
Nothing is new under sun. So why even post about this? Adam and eve caused all deaths. And all sins. Period. With their genials and those of the serpent

>>138401896
>(((Freud)))

>>138402088
Lol, you just hate women because your mother never loved you. You write like someone who is severely schizophrenic. Also you like sticking your dick into someones nasty shitpipe. The bible is very clear, you are a sodomite, a reprobate and you should be put to death. All you do is grasp for the last straw by trying to spin Gods word so it fits your degeneracy. Kill yourself.

GOD HATES YOU.

>>138402141
this. there is also a way to proof this
most gay don't care about having kids or being capable of raising kids, they don't care about lineage and especially not about culture. they are mostly degenerates that embrace open relationships.
its not JUST genetics

>>138402744
Hi fags take my daughters my dad never loved me so i fuck my mother. Grab em! Strange flesh is not angels. It's other men like me. What did Christ say would be worse than sodom? Who cares. Spouses can have consensual anal. How were they reproducing without surrogacies. Why bring your grandmas and sons to a public gang rape. San francisco is still here. Why are we blowing out a town of fags when according to you they would do on their own? You walk before Christ. Christ hated "people" like you. Spoke about and blessed us. Spoke about you and cursed you

>>138402858
Ronaldo. WTF I LOVE VAGINAS AND ALIMONY NAO

>>138392345
I wasn't hit as a child either. I'd say emotional damage is much more likely between both parents, and then having no father figure at about age 15 or so. But I was never diddled

>>138402744
This faggot is completely missing the point in the posts, incoherent and bringing up unrelated points. Also has way too many posts. There's a big chance it's a bot.

>>138403101
Heteros dindu fuck all except banish us. Who abused them? Their own devil fuckery

>>138403112
>the shebrews are starting to bitch about me not to my face but amongst themselves
So predictable. Say whatever you want. You are not males

>>138388331
>>138387728

Studies are old and have clearly biased samples.

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>>138402990
Your dad should have killed you instead of just beating you up, this is sad to watch. Burn in hell, sodomite.

>>138403112
>There's a big chance it's a bot.
Could be true. Would be the first bot i saw on 4chan.

>>138403493
>Mine are brand new and flawless

>>138403534
Memes. Delusions. You are duped. You are evil. You say nothing but empty stinky queefs

>>138403112
nah bots do not have psychotic breaks when their belief that they were born homosexual and are perfectly normal is destroyed.

>>138403101

One of my best friends is gay. His mother is batty. We all love her, but she is fucking bats. Completely emotionally instable. She can keep it together in front of others, but when it's just them, she is prone to random insane outbursts. His father worked his balls off and so was only so available between him, his brothers, and the mother. He also would emotionally distance himself to counter the mother's outbursts. So. Here's the formula here; emotionally unstable mother making women unpalatable and smothering, distant but dedicated father making men desirable and admirable. Shake and stir over a lifetime and you've got a young man with a desperation for his father's affection that gets all kind of fetishized when puberty hits and older men start taking advantage.

>>138403697
No such thing happened. Between him saying im irrelevant but never how or why. And your generic "he was blown out but isnt a bot" shit, you cant even collect your narratives or pick up the pieces or know wtf is going on

>>138372753
Is that faggot getting ready to take a mini-van up the ass?

>>138403766
Thats funny. Thats the exact opposite to the prevailing freudian theory of the last 130-odd years. Mother fucker is an ad hom. Too bad for you. Daddy fucker doesnt exist as one. Not my problem

>>138403872
Are you prepared to be a false fag flag? Yes. Post mardi gras tits and ping pong vaginas

>>138378333
>waste of 3s

>t. faggot who posts the same wall of text in every thread that criticizes faggotry

>>138403552
Actually they are, a simple google search will pull them up.

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>>138403620
Leviticus 20:13 ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

>>138403165
The fuck you on about? All I'm saying is I had a genetic predisposition for it since I have a gay grandfather on and gay great uncle from my dad's side, mixed with being brought up in a broken family with an absent mother who was more of a father figure than my actual dad who, looking back, I don't think was ready to be a dad. On top of that, girls always being favored in school, being shamed whenever I showed interest in girls, and an ex-girlfriend who screwed me up plenty, too

>>138404043
Not an argument. Stop making threads and you wont need to read anybody's rebuttals. How sad and pathetic is this. Honestly. How is this not divide and conquer against men?

>>138380152
>even if all scientists agreed that it's 100% genetics.

but they don't faggot

>>138403807
>>138403872
>>138403906
>>138403972

This is what a mind exploding from cognitive dissonance looks like.

>>138404073
Yeah eh
>>138404133
For fuck's sake i already explained all this
>>138404143
You make excuses for heteros. Pull zero prisoners or punches dude. None

>>138403697
But all it ever showed us was this 'psychotic break'. For what it's worth it could be programmed to frequently reply stuff related to what it reads in random posts or posts which reply to him, then our psychology does the trick labeling him as angry.

>>138404215
Not an argument. You lose your minds first? I will reply to every single one. What else were you expecting? A hug box?

>>138403766
Yeah my situation was something like this but roles reversed between mom and dad. Tho my dad wasn't unstable, he was a chemist for christ's sake, but I don't think he was I suppose mature enough to be a dad

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>>138404305
Your father is satan i think i can take a moral high ground here

>>138404145
>divide and conquer against men?

are you Jack Donovan? There is nothing masculine about faggotry. Your behavior is overindulgence manifest. I wonder why 1/3 of you have fucked 1000 men.

>>138404246
>For fuck's sake i already explained all this
The word of God is unambigous. He who tries to spin it commits a sin. But you are a reprobate, so this is lost on you anyways. You will burn in hell.

>>138404520
Already answerd that. You mix genders and coat your manhood in female hormones. You cant function without it and you throw tantrums any time a guy doesnt like what you do. Because you think we're selfish like gloria allred. Because you hate everything about yourselves. You were forced by peer pressure to conform to pentagram vaginas. I incurred no such thing

>>138404417
I'm done with you Faggotbot_1.0. You're a good start but still far from passing the Turing test.

>>138404540
How many fucking times are you going to try and get a rise out of me during this "all the world is a stage" bullshit? You break every single thing in leviticus. You associate with despised and hated pagans. You never read anything or listen. And think youre better than anybody. You aint shit. Hows it feel to invest so much time and lose so hard and convince nobody and push them to my side and be left with nothing but eclipses, antichrists, and sept 23? Lashing out. Thats what you feel like. Im like 2000 levels above you little buddy daughter of mine

>>138402295
Anal sex *is* painful. Painful and messy and damaging, with a lot of unpleasant preparation work necessary to minimize the mess and smell. "Prostate orgasm" is a myth. If it weren't, orgasm from anal stimulation would be the typical experience. Instead, it's rare and normally has to be "learned" over months of experience in anal sex. But you can learn to orgasm from no external physical stimulation at all, just by getting very sexually excited and clenching muscles. More usually, men orgasm while being anally penetrated by getting a reach-around or using their own hand.

People can learn to love painful things. The reason some men become homosexual is related to the reason some people engage in BDSM.

Misattribution of arousal is an important factor. There is a general arousal, not specifically sexual, that happens as part of any stimulus that could be called "exciting", including fear, horror, pain, and even disgust.

Furthermore, people aren't born with perfect understanding of what sex is and all the attributes of what they should be attracted to. A young man sees rounded flesh, slender waist, smooth skin, feminine posture - he becomes fascinated in the person he sees them on, he adds the other things he sees to his developing concept of sexiness. And the seeds of a female sex drive aren't absent from men, they're just weaker, suppressed. They can be developed with enough stimulation before the normal male sex drive has matured, and through misattribution of arousal, horror and disgust at homosexual urges can enhance their development.

>>138388819
you're a literal fag talking about creepy

>>138405041
Female orgasm is a myth. I can smell women thru their clothes. Ive never smelled a damn thing on a man. How do you know it's a myth? You tried it before? Fucking faggot

>>138405109
Why do you let your woman fuck snake dick?

>>138393098
>my gay curse began when I was exposed to pornography at a very young age
This is what I've always thought was a big reason for homosexuality and other degeneracy becoming increasingly commonplace nowadays.

>>138404903
>Hows it feel to invest so much time and lose so hard and convince nobody
This thread was pretty succesful, most people that read this will come to the conclusion that faggots are willfully living a degenerate lifestyle and that they could change if they wanted to, which makes them even more despicable. Also, it shows us that we need to protect our children from mentally ill faggots like you.

>you break every single thing in leviticus
I don´t, but your flag is proof that you break 20:13.
God hates you.

>>138393856
I think trannies are a special case, as it's also a way to escape the "white male guilt".

>>138405274
Dick and vagina makes you gay. Ok. Didnt take much. The pornhub rankings rank only tits and asses. No vaginas on there because fucking nobody likes them. Just pretends they do. Stare at dicks online. At gym. And at urinals. Have limp biscuit contests. And talk about being black below the belt. Playing grab ass in some "end zones" you know?

Either:
>a. it's genetic, and will be curable by 2030, or
>b. It's phenotypical, and millions of pedo "uncles" will be sued by 2030.
Either way, like niggers, faggotry is a medium-term problem.

>>138405310
>sign of covenant is proof
Eh bud. If you dont break any of them then you are a Moishe and hated far more than am I. I guarantee you this. Nobody is righteous and youre fake. Christ spoke against you and against all these things i said. And supported me. Why are you still crying ugly neanderthal kike?

Some real regards on this thread. Without a basic understanding of maths are more motivated by ideology than logic.

Let me help. If the % of a twin and his twin being gay is higher than 2 random men in the populace (is, by a long way), then genetic predisposition is undeniable (in part or whole).

>>138372753
>gays were not born that way.
This was proven long ago when no "gay gene" was found in DNA.
Homosexuality is just a perversio in their heads.

>>138405634
>doesnt even read the thread, dances around on his pear earth like a frog worshipping son of a bitch bastard
Why talk about yourself when you can twist everything onto anybody else? I dont know who in the fuck you vipers think you are. Your comeuppance is coming

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>>138373496
>Donald
>Get the capacitors

>>138405617
Wrong, it could be a common environmental trigger, i.e. a virus or parasite. Or it could be a genetic vulnerability to the pathogen.

>>138387783
Why do people choose to get off while eating shit? To satisfy their sexual fetish.

Bullshit study is over 4 years old.

Kind of hoping for a genetic link. Might make lefties rethink the whole pro choice thing if people can identify if their kid will turn out gay.

>>138405827
Get necked with by pedo pence. You know. Whichever
>>138405850
If it was toxoplasma why does pence have 52 cats? Egyptians loved cats. No fags there. And since evolution is a lie. Just wtf are you talking about

>>138405617
It wouldn't be proof of genetic disposition, simply the twins could be growing in the same dysfunctional environment (pedo family, distant father, etc.)

>>138405850
What?

Do you even know how said studies are performed? Well, obviously not, else you wouldn't say something so blatantly retarded it beggar's belief.

>>138405850
Or just the same abusive parents/uncles/events they witnessed together because twins are generally inseparable best buddies.

>>138405906
I love how i rarely get sixes and you guys always do. I get fives and sevens and eights and nine and mostly anything but a nasty disgusting six. 2 girls 1 cup. Phobes proven to love scat and gay porn. Everything you women say on this are lies or projections

>>138406121
Same applies to separated twins, what's your point?

>>138405517
>And supported me.
>he is this delusional
GOD HATES FAGS. You will burn in hell.

>>138403534
>Would be the first bot i saw on 4chan.
What about the archive nordbot
>>138402744
>GOD HATES YOU.
This is false. God absolutely hates homosexuality, but if anon abstains from sodomy and homosexual relationships, and lives his life as God expects from us, he has a chance.
God loves everyone and wishes for all of us to repent of our sins.
>>138405405
>implying there's only straight porn
>implying curiosity doesn't drive some easily impressionable younglings to click on a gay or orgy videos that affect them permanently
>implying normal people stare at dicks online, at the gym, or at urinals
>43 posts by this fucking ID

>>138406305
>God loves everyone
This is a meme. God hates people, otherwise reprobates like this schizophrenic faggot wouldn´t exist.

Read this:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/reports/20060331_god-loves-everyone-lie.pdf

>>138406289
Ethiopian. Born eunuchs. Centurion. Then there's everything against you starting with your pagan flag ideology. I win you lose youre already in the furnace
>>138406305
I dont care what else pornos there are. Gays dont do that. Only you. Dicks dont make you womany. Women do. Youre like the south park parental blame television memesters. Why are they clicking on any kind of porno let alone gay? Why arent you stopping them? What is compelling them to be fags JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE?

>faggotry is a detestable moral choice.
>found evidence ti back that up

Colored me surprised.

>>138406455
Im not a molech whore. God makes no mistakes. If you descend from devil and post pagan bullshit then how is that my problem. Im none of those things. Who touched you? Why are you so angry and obsessive on this? You dont even set a good example. You have no idea what youre talking about. All my posts have been varied. You have said 61 repetitions of the same bullshit. Ellen degeneres stand up was right. Everybody thinks bad shit about themselves. Think others pick up on that. But when you go inside their heads. Theyre thinking the same bad bullshit about themselves

>>138406240
The dysfunctional events I mentioned above could also happen early before the separation of the twins

>>138406510
>Ethiopian. Born eunuchs. Centurion.
Aaerasnd. Lrxiuts. Oiasodpa.

This is how much sense you make. Don´t you realize that you are proving to everyone in this thread that faggots are mentally ill?

>>138406511
Excellent specificity. I love it

>>138406721
Theyre right the fuck in there. Directly prove me right. Directly speak to that which i said. Now im repeating myself like you. Just because you are a lied to liar who cant deal. Doesnt mean i wrote or made up anything just now. Pagans are not Biblical. Period

>>138406696
Please try to comprehend how the studies were done before using your own completely irrelevant conjecture as a basis for understanding.

>>138406798
>a faggot
>thinking he lives according to biblical truth

Doesn´t get more mentally ill than that. You write like a schizo. I can´t even understand half of what you are saying.

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>>138380482

Got any arguments?

>>138406966
I dont give a fuck. You exist on a foundation of sand. Every. Single. Letter. You've typed. Has been based on LIES. Why do you keep doing this? Why do you want me to compete with you for pussy? Why not just go fuck off and clam dig? All the things you say are gay and biblical. Are actually proscriptions on pagan molech whoredom. Thats it! Theres no way God hates paganism less than king david or anybody else I said. Read history. Learn how based males can be without the zombie succubus gender

>>138405184
>fag-mhed

>>138407072
Hagar. Turkey basters. Part and parcel of your sodomy misinterpretations. Got a meme? Ill burn it

Sodomites are like dung upon the face of the earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdLhSI3LC4

Great speech by Pastor Anderson.

>>138407166
Nice sixes you got there. I am not a Pagan and the words of God say that you should be put to death.

>Learn how based males can be without the zombie succubus gender
More proof your mother didn´t love you. If you are what "based fags" look like then i hope that we exterminate all faggots within the next 10 years.

>>138373170
Which means you're not 'born' that way, mr. Autist

>>138406688
>God makes no mistakes.
True, that is why you will burn in hell.

>>138407399
Shlomo bitch ass. Shekinah hoax aside that i already mentioned. You say God is half a woman whom has a girlfriend. Women have no agape love. That is fucked. Tefillin are not biblical. Being matrilineal is not biblical. You saw eve fucked up and in the year 300 along with platonic complementarity you started blaming men. Cutting dicks off in even weirder ways for this for some reason. And started deferring to females to see if youre Judeans or not. Called yourselves judean "jews". Dont know what your tribes are other than fake ones. Are not semites. And stopped blessing our marriages

>>138405402

It's also a way to escape male disposability.

>>138389733
Or maybe parents raising one faggot makes it more likely for them to raise two

>>138407618
>>138407469
Anderson has a lisp. An ugly wife. Talks about dick skins all day. Walks before Christ. And curses on the lectern. You post associations with pagan flags. Project onto me your own failures. And say youre not a pagan. Would you God damned mother fucking realise for once that nobody here is a sodomite except Trump and yourself? Take your beautiful jewish aipac and kys. This is only angst for tomorrow and sept 23. Nothing to do with me. Christ never came by way of sex. And never had any. Would you talk to Him like you talk to me? Why not? Sacred band of thebes. Alexander. Hadrian. Many more

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Jews push degeneracy into our lives.

>>138407977
Gay and jew are oxymoron. Isis is jewish. Jews suck vagina like an 8 ball to check for jewishness. And look at this kikey board and its "views" on this. Nothing new under sun. No male nor female in Christ. No marriages or vaginas in Heaven. Aint no adam and steve creating no degeneracy. Only you

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>>138372753

Saved, thanks for the resource, definitely gonna use this one in the future

>>138408138
Ill be right here waiting to blow you out. Except with the timeline of the end being like the beginning you made. Nobody will be here to discuss dicks anymore. Fuck off back to the bank of america mural yes? Ive never seen a more degenerate country nor president nor group of jim jones freaks

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>>138401686
>check cited source
>source has a compilation of sources
>go to them
>they have compilation of sources of studies from the 80s
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>138400780
Didn't the largest group of "ex-homosexuals" shut down and said it was all bullshit?

http://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2013/june/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-gay-community-exodus.html

>>138407931
>Would you God damned mother fucking realise for once that nobody here is a sodomite except Trump and yourself?

Leviticus 20:13
‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

I saw no rebuttal, only (probably literal) butthurt and ad hom attacks. You should die and will go to hell. You are a reprobate and if you want to do Gods will, take it into your own hands and hang yourself.

>>138408254
>Ill be right here waiting to blow you
FTFY

>>138408297
This. Thanks anon. Everything /pol/ says is from the Protocols and is a bald faced lie. Every single fucking thing. Every. Single. Thing!

>>138408371
Post your curled side burns with a time stamp

>>138393806

>>138408462
When did that happen? It didnt. Already refuted by multiple anons

>>138408379
i'm not even saying fags dont sleep around but it for sure is nowhere near as prevalent today than the fucking 80s when even liberals admit that gays fucked anything that moved.
You dont find the same sexual actions in today's youth that you did previously

>>138373869
>has never been reversed even once

If you ignore all the times that it has, sure.

>>138408599
Except it hasnt. Why arent you debating that guy who said he was forced to go to pedophilic russian hookers and still failed? Hrm? Got any proof? No. Go back to your penis festival

>>138408436
Post your infected boipucci so we can laugh at you, pathetic beta femcuck.

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>>138372753
At this point, I don't give a shit whether or not they are born that way, they all go in the bog. I've had it with fags.

>>138408798
This has happened maybe 6 or 7 times with me on here. If you were like any other guys who come to me for that shit but were normal or not an asshole then maybe you could see my pin prick. But since all you did was malign me and judge me like a kabbalah sorcerer i have nothing but derision and worse for you. Typical. Now all you can do is wonder what it looks like and call it diseased, instead, in its absence. Fucking weirdo

>>138408834
I want to see homosexuality blowing out the original couple. Or the original people. It never happened. Your sex spawned all that. Oh well. Trust me. Men. And spiritual beings. And probably God Himself. Have all had enough of you too

>>138372753
>amazinghealth
>no link or reference to the original paper
>no explanation for the 50% incidence rate of SSA previously found among those with a say identical twin
>“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%”

The best evidence suggests it's epigenetic and largely due to in utero hormone exposure

>>138399336
Probably correct, but there is a consistent link between sexual abuse and homosexuality, as for the rest of the gay who werent molested, some other sexually driven experience probably contributed

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/

>>138409214
Ahh. Brains. So refreshing

>>138408954
>he thinks seeing his AIDS-infected shitpipe is some kind of price
Lmfao. Remember, when a fag dies, God laughs, just like i laugh at you. God is a hetero male and he despises sissy cucks who want to be like women.

Remember, your father shouldn´t just have beaten you, he should have killed you,

>>138409214
>flag
There is literally NO evidence for the epigenetic theory and much more for abuse as the cause.

>>138409249

>>138409249
>patheos
More God damned abominable paganism. Where in the FUCK did the "noice" may may come from? What does centipedes mean? Does it mean centipedos? Yes

>>138409361
God speaks and creates. Why the words about the defilement by only women of the 144K? Google shekinah hoax. Read the first link. It explains absolutely everything that's occurred since 9/11. The posters you're saying have nothing. Make more intuitive and logical sense than you do. But youre perfect and theyre shit. You just called me a feminist beta when the defintion of my sex is shunning of all that. Dumb bitch

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>>138372753
hmm I was under the impression that it was the conditions in the womb (hormones) to blame but now I'll reconsider.

>>138372753
“The authors were pro-gay and they commented that the only stability was among the heterosexuals, who stayed the same year after year. Adolescents are a special case—generally changing their attractions from year to year.”

>>138409673
Takes a dumbass to know one. No skin off my back. There is nothing new under the sun. This theory sounds new to me. All we've done for 6000 years is excuse serpent seed and blame your own children. The gays. That you made. With your original sin. It's fucking nasty. Then you say you have personal responsibility. Youre cowards. Nazis were closet fags who created israel. The right put the brownies here not that it's important. You know nothing

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>>138409383
pic related

>>138409534
>i-i am not a femboy cuckold, i swear, i am masculine, i don´t want to be like women even though i mirror them
Fucking Lol.
Science has proven that there is no gay gene and there is no evidence backing the epigenetic theory. All intelligent anons in this thread have realized that by now.
You have chosen to distance yourself from God to live a wicked lifestyle. God hates you.