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Ukraine and US sign deal to Host US Military bases on Ukraine

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https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/08/14/ukraine-hosts-us-military-permanently-stationed-on-its-soil.html

Russia BTFO
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>>138319467
The Ukraine is rightful US clay.
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>>138319467
What a huge surprise.
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>>138319467
Cool I guess.
whatever
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>le ebin chessmaster putin
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>>138319927
>the Ukraine

burger education strikes again
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>>138319467
oh shit the nukes are definitely going to fall now

Putin please
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>>138319985
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>>138320051
That's what it is tho.
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>>138319467
Is Putin going to do anything? I blame him for letting that color revolution get so far in the first place. I wanted Russia to have Ukraine, but Putin completely dropped the ball
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>>138320067
Just send white soldiers, this country is full of white niggers already
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>U.S. Halfbreed niggers in beutful Ukrain
NO
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>>138320141

>this country is full of white niggers already

So is this one.
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>>138319467
Cyka Bljad
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>>138320178
Well shit son. At least your white niggers work and produce something.
Our nigs just whine all day, instead of doing anything useful
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>>138319949
My thoughts exactly. At least they got cucked out of Sevastopol.
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>>138320215

Can't we just resolve our disputes over dota?
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Good I hope the burgers will leave Poland now.
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>>138320141
all you're white women are belong to us
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>>138320359
Is there a law that requires vehicles from that part of the world to look all weird and communist?
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>>138320253

I think that point is debatable.

We just have a lot more, so there are bound to be some useful ones.
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>>138320340
Never. US Poland best friends forever.
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>ITT putin bots ass blasted
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>>138319467

5'7 manlet Putin gets cucked by 6'2 Chad Trump

What else is new?
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>>138320440
That's a Russian military "truck of humanitarian aid".
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>>138320095
>"The Ukraine" is incorrect both grammatically and politically, says Oksana Kyzyma of the Embassy of Ukraine in London.

yeah, I know you won't admit you were wrong, let's skip the next (You)
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>>138320455
I DON'T WANNA GET NUKED YOU FUCK
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>>138320506
too late now bitch
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>>138320496
oh no its politically incorrect!
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>>138320340
Why would you want this?
Don't they train your military or some shit like that?
>>138320359
1)It's "your", not "you're" (gotta be really embarrassing when a fucking slav corrects your grammar
2)This pic has nothing to do with what you said
3)Eastern European women are whores anyway, they don't care about race/nation, only money.
>>138320450
Oh, you mean them. I thought you were talking about southerners.
Antifa are animals, nothing more. Let them chimp and they'll calm down
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Oh look Americans are being shit once again. Who would have thought.
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>>138320496

Shut up before you become The Poland
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Its okey (no).
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>>138320496
You're using the Embassy of The Ukraine in London instead of telling me what the word "ukraine" means?

Dumb polack.
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>>138320563

>Oh, you mean them. I thought you were talking about southerners.

Well, the beauty of my wording, is that it can apply to both.
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>>138320506
Friends die together
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>>138320638
hillybillies > antifa scum
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>>138320697

As a generalization, I agree.
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>>138320606
Ukraine is both the conventional short and long name of the country. This name is stated in the Ukrainian Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Before independence in 1991, Ukraine's official name was the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic as a constituent republic of the Soviet Union.
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>>138319467
America spreads freedom and democracy since 1776
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>>138320762
The land area is still quite literally The Ukraine.
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Inb4 porkoshekel gets assassinated and the "country" collapses again
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>>138320462
More maps showing Crimea as part of Russia.
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Welp, here's hoping nobody gives a real shit. Haven't been dodging draft for 5 years only to get conscripted under total mobilization.
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>>138319467
And how is this helping Ukraine?
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>>138319985
Your a puppet state, how does that make you feel?
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>>138321044
Stop being such a pessimist. Just think: a total US/Russia land invasion could burn the entire The Ukraine to ashes and make it a clean slate.

It's clearly the easiest option at this point.
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>>138321093
u 2
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It's a maritime base, designed to coordinate naval training exercises.

US ships cannot stay in the Black Sea longer than 3 weeks, while Ukraine has like 1 (barely) operational ship.

So, this move have more of a symbolic value than anything substantial.
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>pesky burgers are trying to get in our way
Don't make me call the Bogdanoffs
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>>138320809
its like getting mad because people dont call "orlando" The City of Orlando in the Constitutional Republic of Eastern Florida of the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America.

Its like nigger with a theosophy masters degree and a 10 page made up title for it
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>>138320496
The Ukraine is not a real country. "Ukraine" is grammatically incorrect.
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>>138321241
I only get mad when the Jews don't call London the City of London Corporation in recognition of that land act England had from the 1500s.

What do they think they're trying to hide?
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>>138321093
lmao most countries in the world are someone's puppets
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Ukraine want to be the next Afghanistan. Well, let them.
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>>138321323
Are you suggesting they're going to be a bigger, better farming empire than a dusty 3rd world shithole? You know nothing of The Ukraine.
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>>138321311
this is so pathetic lmao
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>>138321386

You're a puppet to the Fed, no less than they are.
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>>138321142
We're both ruled by ZOG.
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>>138321386
He's not wrong you know.
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In 20 years Ukraine is gonna be full of half Nigger babies and their mothers damanding multiculturalism just like in Germany, enjoy!
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>>138321378
>dusty 3rd world shithole
Afghanistan ist one of the resource-richest countries on this planet.
>The Ukraine
Has nothing besides cheap labor power.
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>>138321142
holy shit, our bases in europe are bigger than norway.

who the fuck uses several large circles as icons on a map?
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>>138320606
The Ukraine would be correct, also. Ukraina means 'Borderland' thus 'The Borderland/The Borderland Republic/Republic of The Borderland'.
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>>138321675

Translation: GSK can't use anything from Ukraine
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>>138321675
We're talking about farming. The Afghanis aren't exactly masters of building lithium mines. They grow mad opium, tho.

Meanwhile The Ukraine includes some of the best farmland on the planet and what the fuck do they grow? Holodomors?
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>>138321679
look at the key
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>>138319467
>Ukraine and US sign deal to Host US Military bases on Ukraine PERMANENTLY

WW3 here we come. Time to flee to Switzerland.
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>>138321182
>Russian hand
HUNGARY NO !
DON'T FALL FOR RUSSIAN LIES AGAIN
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>>138319467
And Russia is the aggressor.

We as a nation must destroy this peace of shit globalist country for the good of humanity.
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>>138321766
>The Ukraine includes some of the best farmland on the planet
And they're going compete with West-farmers?
Never.
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If US gets anywhere near Crimea, it would be immediate WW3.
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>>138321974
>Afghanistan
>The West
m8
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>>138320051
dumb pol
gets trolled by burger
tries to retaliate
trolls self in the process

historically it's the ukraine just like it's the crimea
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>>138321773
i get it, it's supposed to be the size of the deployment, but look closely, it's clearly a bullshit way to visualize it.

someone looking at this could easily be lead to believe that we have more deployment in spain than hawaii.

triangles for 1-5k
solid square for 10k
empty square for 25k
exclamation point for iraq.
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>>138321311

But at least when you were a Soviet puppet people were not killing each other in your country and you had industry and Crimea.
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>>138321974
that was before they leased the land to the Chinese, when the Chinese are done, it'll be wasteland
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>>138321870
>And Russia is the aggressor.
You did annex their lands...
You did invade their country with russian soldiers..
You did kill ukrainian civilians and military...
You did bomb their cities....
You did turn their country into Oligarchstan...
You did control their industry...

You never let Poorkraine develop, you maintained it into another soviet shithole, just like you did with Kazakshtan, Moldova, Belarus
Meanwhile, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, former provinces, all have higher wages and higher HDI than Russia.
While russians have to smuggle finnish cheese because Putler wants to suck chink dick.
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>>138320283
>Can't we just resolve our disputes over dota?
Top kek
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Fuck the US.

You guys are sitting on /pol/ whining how globalism is a bad thing but YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

Your fucking lying piece of shit country is the problem.
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>>138320253
> At least your white niggers work and produce something.

What they produce is meth. Doing nothing would be an improvement.
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>>138320111

He couldn't stop Ukraine from going west even if he used force to stop Euromaiden.

Ukraine doesn't want to be with them after being genocided, culturly supressed and their lands poisoned by Chernobyl.

They hate Russia more than anything and will never trust them again.
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>>138323021
>Russia dindu nuffin
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>>138322817
Fuck off gypsy. You understand nothing because it isn't history of your country. You aren't able to understand that Ukraine isn't a real country but special territory in Russia because you are brainwashed fuck and a part of btthurt belt that was partitioned through history many times by real countries.
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>>138319467
Who saw this coming?!?
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Don't mind him >>138323021 /pol/, he's just a little depressed during the crisis.
Please accept my apologies.
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>>138323293
Now NATO advance to Ukraine but your lying mouth will repeat that Russia is the aggressor. We know what you will say.
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>>138320283
South Korea for global world leader!
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>>138323021
try and stop us
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>>138319467
Nice, Bannon leaving is already looking great. The Trump regime tried to play it off like they're masterminding a secret operation by getting rid of all their most radical appointees but really they're just being forced out to make room for more rational policies.
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>>138323343
>You aren't able to understand that Ukraine isn't a real country but special territory in Russia because you are brainwashed fuck
You're killing me Vlad, my sides can't take it.
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>>138319467
Fuck you U.S! How are we supposed to take back Lwów now...
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>>138323021
And who do you think controls us and makes all these problems ?
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>>138319467
Yea, no shit? Everybody knows burgers organized this last coup, so why wouldn't they
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>>138323411
>Our Russian liberal is a flunkey before everything, and is only looking for some one whose boots he can clean.

Dostoevsky
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>>138319467
>https://www.strategic-culture.org
any decent sources?
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>>138323229

good boy.
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>>138319467
Unimportant. They will pack their bags and leave as soon as another round of Donbass war starts
>Kramatorsk falls, Slavyansk, Mariupol...
>Burgers stick around

Sure..
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>>138319949
You better move fast if you want Novorossia Ivan.
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>>138324465
lol
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>>138319927
>The Ukraine
>The
>>138320051
What this faggot said.
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>>138319467
NATO isn't making the same mistake we did in 2008 when we left Georgia to its fate as a pathetic puppet state of Russia. The only thing that can secure Ukrainian protection is military protection.

>mfw when Russians bring this shit on themselves with their chimping out
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>>138324657
nobody wants this shithole land anymore, not even Ukraine

Novorossia is Slavic Nigeria now.
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>>138324695
F
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Seems like pol grew up and stopped liking russia.
Good.
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>>138324657
Moving fast is overrated. Slow and steady.
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>>138324695
Thats the point. I honestly don't give a fuck who dies out of all these warlords as long as Zakharacheko lives.
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>>138323343
>Ukraine isn't a real country
>special territory in Russia
>you are brainwashed fuck
>understand nothing
When you call others gypsies but you think like one.
>literally stealing territory, industry and killing people
>WE DINDU NUFFINS

I can't wait to invade your country, Ivan.
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>>138324743
In English it is often referred to as "the Ukraine" for some bizarre reason. I'm not quite sure why but I can attest to the fact that this is considered acceptable.

e.g. "the Maghreb" or "the Yemen" or "the Philippines"
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>>138325048
Because historically they are areas, not countries. Nobody tried to argue otherwise until relatively recently. Often this comes with strange name changes that don't stick, like calling Saigon, a large city in French Indo-China "Ho Chi Min City" and the surrounding area "Veit Nam."
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>>138320455
>mfw burger soldiers wanted to protest because they got traditional polish cuisine instead of fast foods
>mfw they started to pay for food with their own money in local fast food bars
>mfw we charge them 4x more then usual
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>>138323229
And Ukraine now is bigger shithole than before. It's the poorest country in Europe.
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>>138324950
>Slow and steady.
Jeb, what are you doing in Russia?
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>>138322817
Except Crimeans wanted to be part of Russia. They are Ethnically Russians. Russia took it without firing a shot.
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U S A
U S A
U S A
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>>138325439
>Except London wanted to be part of Pakistan. They are Ethnically pakistanis.
Here is your logic
Sydney is an immigrant heaven, we should partition it to China-India-Lebanon, right?

Also, Russia signed NUMEROUS treaties with Ukraine, the US, the UK, France, the UN,
Russia SIGNED to RESPECT and PROTECT Ukraine's territorial integrity.
Russia DENOUNCED all territorial claims in OTHER treaties with Ukraine, CSO countries and the US with the UN backing it up.

Russia does not respect its own promises, its own obligations, that they signed.
Russia obligated itself to protect Ukraine's territorial integrity in exchange for its nuclear arsenal.

Ukraine lost its nuclear arsenal and land.
>Russia took it without firing a shot.
I live near the border, how about you come ask the refugees about, ok?
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>>138319949
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>>138324943
We never not liked Russia comrade.

Too bad Putin has gone soft though, he used to be quite a goy.
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>>138325274
>historically
That is the past, not present.
>not countries
They are now. It is accerptable for us and the Balkan nations because we are plural.
Ukraine IS a sovereign nation. You cannot unmake that. History has shown that before, and if you won't learn from it, it will happen again.
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>>138325439
Just like Bezmenov said. They won't believe it untill a military boot crushes their balls. Also, the eastern part is "ethnically russian" too, but that didn't seem to go without a single shot. Furthermore, the ones most feasefully fighting and contributing most to the deathtoll are russophone "ethnical russians" from the east and south.
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>>138319467
Why are these fucktards pushing us close to conflict and global war?

All I want in life is a small farm near a nice pub.
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>>138325800
What about the so-called countries in the middle east? They appear to be increasingly non-functional artificial lines in real danger of getting redrawn.

And now you're on about The Ukraine, within which, The Crimea was recently returned to Russia. Not so long ago, what we call "Russia" was not the "Russian Federation" but the "USSR." Things get made and unmade all the time.
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>>138325726
It's Ukraine's fault for trying to leave Russia. And Crimea is strategically important because of its access to Black Sea.

I doubt Ukraine will ever join NATO, now that they have disputed lands.
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>>138325800
What a retarded argument. "Nations" come and go, they blow in the wind. Ukraine is not a nation, just a whore, selling her body and her land to the highest bidder. Which is still the same jews at US State Department evidently.

>New President
>Same fucking zionist policy

New president, big talk, nothing changes.
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>>138325762
I'm ready.
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>>138324943

I still like Russia.....just the old one.
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>>138326217
>green
>white
But they're black?
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>>138326039
>It's Ukraine's fault for trying to leave Russia.
I am clearly talking to a low level shill, the higher level shills at least know the USSR broke up, nobody left anybody.
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>>138319467
nothing changes. america is to cowardly to do anything itself. some fucking desk jockeys will waste tax payer dollars while camel jockeys ravage europe
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>>138326031
The middle east is a shithole because of constant foreign meddling there due to their oil.
>returned
annexed*
>>138326056
The only way to make sure that the people will not revolt at some point to regain their independence is to genocide the all without exceptions. That is what history shows.
But due to the modern times and the communications we have now that is pretty much impossible wihout getting the attention of everyone else on the world scene.
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>>138319467
Goddamn it, Ukraine! Get ready for rapes, fights, and niggers.
>>138326217
Niggers don't have the IQ to learn Russian, they can barely speak coherent English.
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>>138326235
I get depressed when I see his pictures. Such a cool guy.
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>>138326512
They're not countries because for the most part they barely progressed past some endless shuffling of city-states and empires.

Is Afghanistan really a country? Or is it a city-state surrounded by desolation and a patchwork of war lords, and we just give it a name because it would be weird to not have a name to put within the lines somebody drew on the map?
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>>138326617
>Niggers don't have the IQ to learn Russian, they can barely speak coherent English.
who axed you mofugga
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>>138326235
I still like Germany.....just the old one.
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This explains all the russia pressure put on trump in the media
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>>138319949
>>138320261
This. Everyone knew that this will happen after not one but TWO US backed revolutions in 10 years. That's why it was important that we take Crimea or we lose Black Sea and with it all southern power.
Putin should secure Venezuela for Maduro in exchange of placing our bases and nuclear weapons there.
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>>138319985
being a puppet state is cool
kek
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>>138326806
>Russia
>shitty GDP
>muh base

another delusional Vatnik
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Isn't this the exact thing that Russia is threatening WW3 for, putting US bases in buffer states?
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>>138326806
>Putin should secure Venezuela for Maduro in exchange of placing our bases and nuclear weapons there.

I triple dare you mother fucker, Not on our watch. Commie fuck
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But American shills were telling me always that the US had no interest in the Ukraine?
Turns out these fuck tard shills are silent now
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>>138326617
>Niggers don't have the IQ to learn Russian

But they're trying very hard.
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>>138326903
Russia is 6 in the world in GDP(PPP). Its more than enough to shove a giant nuclear dick up your asshole.
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>>138327001
Joe Biden's son had oil interests in The Ukraine the whole time. But srsly when is Trump going to release his taxes?
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>>138320606
Its THE poopland, Europes leeches.
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>>138320554

Call someone in the Canada and get them to back you up on this burger.
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>>138327132
>PPP

Irrelevant. Only the nominal number matters.
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>>138326663
Any nation that looks back fondly at the Soviet Union is a non-country. That means the assorted -stans and partially Russia too, which is just one step away form becoming a nation again,
but is unwilling to do so because "MUH COLD WAR, MUH SOVIET LEGACY". They are doing this out of spite. Willing to do anything to just not be like their historical opposition is today.
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>>138321797
chill chad
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Damn Ivan you got fucking cucked hardcore by the long dick of American imperialism

I predict by 2020 we will have a base in Kaliningrad too
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>>138327139
This
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>>138327261
Nominal numbers matter in estimating power in global economy, not in your own military industrial complex that is 100% independent of word market you uneducated fucktard.
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>>138327132
>#6

hahaha nah

http://statisticstimes.com/economy/projected-world-gdp-ranking.php

your GDP is even more shittier than Canada or South Korea.
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>>138327325
Cyka блят тoвapиш
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>>138327370

Why not right in M*scow?
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>>138327474
Another moron who doesn't understand what PPP means and why nominal doesn't mean shit unless you want to sanction someone.
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>>138326917
Russia don't got the balls to nuke anyone. Remember the Cuban Missile crisis got averted by a cuck Russian sub commander who disobeyed an order to launch.
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>>138327531
Neesmu tev nekāds "biedrs", okupant.
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>>138326657
Nicky? A cool guy? Lmao he was a pathetic cuck ruled by his court and wife

Had cool looks maybe, yes
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>>138327474
Gdp doesn't matter
I'd rather live in Russia than Canada or france
It's cheaper, better food and no Trudeau
And no renting at 2000 dollar for 30 sqm
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>>138327474
He's talking about PPP GDP, your chart is nominal. Russia is ranked 6th there.

Plus Russia has way smaller population than America or China.
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>>138326806

>Putin should secure Venezuela for Maduro...

Even God and his angels wouldn't be able to save Maduro, let alone Russia.
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>>138319467
>www.strategic-culture.org


Sgd
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>>138327600
If Russia goes down in a war, they will make sure everyone comes down with them. Especially Europe.
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>>138327772
Is that a trap?
Doesn't seem to have tits
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>>138327852
it's a girl
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>>138327680
>better food

You wouldn't eat Russian """food""" even at gunpoint.
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>>138319467
>Ukraine and US sign deal to Host US Military bases on Ukraine PERMANENTLY
>Russia BTFO
You do know that they planned to have naval base in Crimea even before coup? You think murican NWO was mad for Crimea becoming part of Russia again because "it was done undemocratically"? They were mad as hell because they lost place for naval base.
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>>138327612
У вoт м8? Я нe пoнимaю лaтышcкий
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>>138327852
>what is reverse search
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>>138327910
T. Poorfag
I have a house in st pete and in siberia
I love the food and prefer it over anything in Europe or US
If you would work smarter you would be able to afford good food my liberal friend
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>>138327793

Worth it. At least the West will be able to rebuild a world without Mongol hordes attempting to hijack the international world order to bring up muh oil prices.

And nobody is aggressive with Russia anyway, so they will forever go down in history as the instigators.
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>>138328016
+15 pyблeй, пpoплaткa
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Saw your marines in my city. Big guys(for me), with beard, military backpacks, military boots, speaking english near hotel. The city is near the base they are building.
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>>138328101
You mean now? Yes western propaganda is very good and would make a fly look like a terrorist
But
In History, anybody but Russia was the instigator, see Hitler or napoleon
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>>138319467
>Russians invade Ukraine
>Ukraine cannot defend itself
>US puts bases in Ukraine

This means it won’t happen again. The Russians never attack anyone who can fight back.
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>>138328173
so not hating russia is shilling now?

liberahas, everyone
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>>138328173
LOL I don't need 15 dollarz I have enough to live nicely
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>>138328016
Theres no upwards social mobility in Russia, even surgeons make the equivalent of 60k-70k usd a year. You can work as smart as you want and still be poor as shit in Russia, this is coming from a 2nd gen son of Russian immigrants.
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this is why the russians need to smuggle weapons to antifa, niggers, and spic cartels
this will make americans withdraw their foreign bases and rebuild them back home where they arent even 50% of the population anymore
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>>138328216

Imperial Russia was led by people of honour and we owe our independence to them.

There is no more Russia. Just the ruins of Bolshevism.
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>>138326031
>The Ukraine
Okay... I'll live with it, somehow
>The Crimea
Get an education burger. Can't speak your nation's language properly, fucking negro.

It's either "Crimea", or "the Crimean Peninsula"
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>>138328302
>>138328302
The difference is that it's enough to make ends meet.
Don't tell me about it because rive lived in almost all western countries and I prefer Russia or eastern Europe as the living cost are low enough to live on a normal salary. Also Wtf mobility? Russia has best métros and railways
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>>138328216
>In History, anybody but Russia was the instigator, see Hitler
What is the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
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>>138328429
Imperial Russia was a shithole led by a German emperor who had a boipussi
If you're not dumb you can make lots of money, especially in Romania as well
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>>138328346
>smuggling weapons into the US

Hahahahahahahaha nigger do you even realize I can go into the nearest walmart and buy a 100 round drum mag to attach on my AR15
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>>138328520
Poland had the same agreement with Nazi Germany and Poland got a piece of Ukraine.
Does that mean Poland is an instigator too?
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>>138328520
German initiative. Although I don't agree with the post you replied to, your own one is bogus.

Better example would be winter war or invasion of xinjiang.
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>>138319467
This sounds ominous, is this why there is slide going on with the black cocks?
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>>138320496
It's the same as "Czechia", "Slovakian", and other bullshit. These people's knowledge of the English language is incomplete and they certainly know nothing of etymology, why even bother with them.
Back to discussing how Ukraine was granted lands that don't belong to it and how burgers will enforce the economic blockade of Russia, so they can export liquefied gas to Poland and the EU
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>>138324661
That's what you get after living a century under leftists' rule.
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>>138328520
USSR the last to make a pact with Germany among those countries that matter, and many of those that didn't matter.
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>>138328503
Haha, social mobility means that if you are born poor it is very possible to become middle class or even rich. Not metros.
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This is now an Intermarium thread.

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/08/18/state-dept-clears-125-billion-himars-sale-to-romania/

Based Trump scolded our president enough. These babies can easily flatten Transnistria.

This, coupled with Romania and Poland acquiring about 12 billions worth of Patriots will be the cuckening of Ivan and their imperial ambitions.
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>>138328622
Poland was considered an illegimimate state by both sides (so were we) by both the nazis and the red horde, and were instantly invaded from both sides. And now you are telling me that Poland had a deal in all of this? C'mon. There was no Poland at that point at all.
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>>138320563
>when a fucking slav corrects your grammar

Is this bait? I know the memes old but come on, everyone knows it.
>>
>https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2017/07/11/romania-cleared-to-buy-patriot-missile-defense-system/
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>>138328854
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Czechoslovak_border_conflicts#Annexations_by_Poland_in_1938
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>>138328783
>many of those that didn't matter
And how did that end up for you? All of these states came back (plus Ukraine), and now hate you and want nothing to do with you.
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>>138328865
Dude, foreigners learning a language often times study how a language has developed. This is especially true for those that study a language group in university.

You jumped on a fad of linguistic incorrectness, practically lowering yourself to a low comparable with how liberals butcher the language (Xe, Ms., etc.). Concede defeat for once.

...maybe if you get used to not being right all the time, you'll get better at understanding Russian borderland problems, and how you're taking the side of a literal nazi regime glorifying an ethnic cleanser.
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>>138328978
>There was no Poland AT THAT POINT at all.
You are nitpicking. And still that does not justify what the SU did to it's neighbours.
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>>138328783

In which one of these groups is your country now ?

You know, considering you not only lost /hundreds of millions of people/ from your influence due to an inferior, backwards sociopolitical model...

...You also antagonized them for our lifetimes at least.

>MUH BUFFER ZONE
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>>138328948
Romania has dementia
The missiles can be used offensively too, and Romanian government wouldn't even notice that
Also the missiles werr planned for an Iranian threat but with the Iran nuclear deal there is no threat from Iran anymore. So in fact the missiles were placed against Russia.
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>>138319467
>ukraine
no such thing
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>>138328806
>Transnistria
What are the people there doing anyway?
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fake news
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>>138320051
t. mykola jebiewdenko
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>>138328697
>economic blockade of Russia
>economic blockade

There is no blockade. Russian exports are simply not competitive. There are more barriers to business operation for overseas companies trying to operate in Russia than there are for Russian companies trying to do business overseas.
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>>138328854
How was there no Poland?
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>>138328854
Poles genocided the people of Lviv
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>>138329178
"ППC" lol
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>>138328854
Learn some history.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Latvian_Non-Aggression_Pact
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Estonian_Non-Aggression_Pact
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

>>138329040
>And how did that end up for you?
You should ask how it turned for you at that time.
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>>138329242
How are they not competitive?
Russian gas is cheaper than American liquid gas which has to be shipped by huge boats across the Atlantic
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>>138329178
This is the most retarded analogy I have seen in a while. A grown dog costs less than a puppy.
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>>138329173

Which ones ?

The Aegis anti-ballistic shield didn't cost us nothing, but it's not operated by us. And it has no offensive capabilities. We just gave them a patch of land.

It can be integrated with the 12 billions worth of Patriot batteries, c&c centers and radars in Poland.

Slowly, methodically, anti-ballistic deterrence is being established.
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>>138328605
>muh non-auto pigeon caliber
i said a weapon, not jam-o-matic 3000 for obese larpers
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>>138329150
It's not nitpicking, this is the reason Litvinov the jew was sacked and Molotov was chosen to pursue alternative diplomatic options. Litvinovs threat of breaking the NAP was fulfilled and rightfully so.

There is a simple lesson in all this. Don't bite off more than you can chew.
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>>138329360
The aegis
It can be equipped with offensive nuclear capsules
Because it's not even operated by you, the US can just quietly exchange the defensive capsules for offensive ones and you wouldn't even notice it.
You are just being used as a puppet shield
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>>138329201

Living in a literal communist dystopia.

Look it up. The place looks like a parody of what Russian influence brings.
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>>138329544
Looks like downtown Los Angeles
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>>138329544
>Look it up. The place looks like a parody of what Russian influence brings.

Pic look same as most of russian cities.
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>>138329242
Get your head out of your arse, Brit. The EU is facing a foreseeable energy crisis, Germany would LOVE to have a few more product pipelines bypassing Ukraine and assure greater energetic stability to the EU.

Each fucking time deals were about to pass final signing and all sides were prepared to start laying pipes, fucking McCain came in with his big "dare NO ONE cooperate with the Ruskies". He did it in Bulgaria, he did so with the Nord Stream projects.

Right now, the US are paying their debt off by shipping LNG to Poland (since the Poles would love nothing more than to not cooperate with the Russians, even if it means buying more expensive gas)

Because of the economic sanctions, EU aerospace companies suffer a lack of Russian parts, again boosting Boeing and Textron sales
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>>138329172
>In which one of these groups is your country now ?
Considering, according to USA and EU media, that we dictate which presidents you can elect, I'd say we among those that matter. Unlike you.

>...You also antagonized them for our lifetimes at least.
We didn't antagonist anyone, we lost to jewish-murican propaganda steamroller. We learned form it.
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>>138329307
>Learn some history
Like our deal with the Soviet Union in 1919 that our independence was FOR ALL TIME?
>You should ask how it turned for you at that time.
Got a quarter of our population genocided for being "enemies of the people" and to make room for fresh occupants.
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>>138319467
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Russia funds Antifa to pull this bullshit and some journalists
>while America does this
BTFO
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>>138329641
>aerospace companies suffer a lack of Russian parts, again boosting Boeing and Textron sale


I'm interested in this. Citation ? What parts and how high tec ? I bet it's just fuselage legos.
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>>138329755
Russia funds right wing nuts in the EU
Anti Fa is funded by western govs
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>>138321142
>none in UAE
(literally) BASED
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>>138319467
>Russia BTFO
How? That's exactly what we expected when the revolution in 2014 started. That's why we got Crimea. Imagine if a huge naval base got in the hands of NATO. Now that would be a "Russia BTFO". But now it only looks otherwise.
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>>138329682

>that we dictate which presidents you can elect

Good job. For what gain ? You antagonized so much of the EU and US against you that anything tainted by Russian NGOs, media and interests is generally disavowed.

You shot yourself in the foot with more sanctions too, and riled up 5 Eyes to butt fuck you and the genocidal dictator friends of your regime.
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>>138329178
+15
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>>138329905
Not really, Russia won Crimea while Ukraine is being used as a puppet lel

From the article :
The US political support is not gratuitous. In late June, the Ukrainian government took a decision to buy American coal from Pennsylvania, which is said to be almost twice as expensive as locally sourced in the Donbass – Ukraine’s traditional supplier of energy needs.

Hahahahahha
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>>138329682

Daily reminder he's next.

Another brutal, malevolent psychopath supported by Russia is about to fall

..owed to the work of the brave men and women in the US intelligence agencies.
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>>138330051

Ukraine did not play their cards right, but we have to respect their bravery and their self determination.

Also, I don't give a FUCK about Crimea. Crimea is Russian and has always been. Why does everyone get their panties in a knot over that ?

They should just have fucking waited.until the referendum was over before overtly securing it with batallions. They had the support.

But always count on Ivan to go head first into retardation.
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>>138329333
It's not about the price, it says "GDP PPP per capita". Is russophobia that bad in Latvia that you don't learn even the basics of Russian?
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>>138329544
I see, just reading about it.
Weird ministate.
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>>138330051
That is only logical. Cutting trade with the enemy.
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>>138329641

>Get your head out of your arse, Brit. The EU is facing a foreseeable energy crisis, Germany would LOVE to have a few more product pipelines bypassing Ukraine and assure greater energetic stability to the EU.

Bullshit. The existng pipelines are more than enough for present and future needs. Nordstream 1 is only running at 60-70% right now.

>Each fucking time deals were about to pass final signing and all sides were prepared to start laying pipes, fucking McCain came in with his big "dare NO ONE cooperate with the Ruskies". He did it in Bulgaria, he did so with the Nord Stream projects.

Southstream was killed by EU competition law, not a fucking US Senator.

>Right now, the US are paying their debt off by shipping LNG to Poland

What the fuck are you talking about? The US energy sector is almost 100% in private hands, the only money the US government gets from that is tax income. The US isn't Russia were the oil an gas sector is almost completely state-owned.

>Because of the economic sanctions, EU aerospace companies suffer a lack of Russian parts, again boosting Boeing and Textron sales

I'm sorry but who the fuck uses Russian aircraft parts? Not even the Russians do, look at the MC21 or the Sukhoi Superjet.
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>>138329730
>Like our deal with the Soviet Union in 1919 that our independence was FOR ALL TIME?
>Soviet Union
>1919
Jesus... Seriously, at least browse wikipedia or something. Learn your own fucking country history uneducated bydlo. Learn what you was while part of Russia in any form, and what you were reduced to in time of shot independences. And even now you basically surrender it short after getting it to be a part of another union just with larger gib-me-dats.
>Got a quarter of our population genocided for being "enemies of the people" and to make room for fresh occupants.
And all thanks to your own "wise" decisions. You like that casino looser which always placing the on wrong bets and then rely on his parents to get money again.
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>>138330216
I will learn Russian only when you learn Latvian. And I was adressing the analogy, not the subject itself.
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>>138330216
And... why should they? Russophobes or not, they aren't obliged to speak or understand russian.

I don't understand Latvian, does that make me latviaphobe? No it doesn't, I don't care for them at all.
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>>138330240

And it's all the result of Romanian weakness and our He-bros in backrooms, convincing Iliescu not to intervene. We could have crushed them, but it wasn't in the interest of the great powers.

They literally dropped a division in a village of Moldova in the 80s and they made themselves a god damn country. And nobody cares
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>>138329796
Small turboprop aircraft were planning on running with Motor Sich engines, and though Motor Sich is a Ukrainian conglomerate, it had critical ties to Russia, and political instability also plays a role in the decision to purchase something, so its production suffered since 2014. Most notable example - Diamond Aircraft's DART military trainer is being adapted to accept western turboprops

New-gen Russian airliners featured intricate composite structural parts, supplied by a number of EU companies. The Russians decided to abandon a great chunk of these deals and are trying to do it themselves.

Virtually every project being designed (insider info) dropped Motor Sich from their considerations.

The Gripen uses a high-performance American engine, and so its sales are subject to American decision-making. This would not be avoided with Russian influence, since they don't offer an engine with comparable parameters in terms of shape, but it served as an example of something to avoid. Unfortunately for the ALCA, exports are under American control because of the western avionics and engine
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>>138319467
now that is how you start WWIII
not chinks and pajeets throwing rocks in the border
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>>138330444
Then why did you learn English, are Americans fluent in Latvian?

>>138330455
The Soviet generation speaks Russian, but then they decided to remove everything reminding them of Russia from their country.
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>>138324943
/Pol/ is now a neocon board full of teenagers and boomers who don't know anything about history or geopolitics.
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>>138330421
>uneducated bydlo
How ironic coing form a Russian.
>what you was while part of Russia in any form
An autonomous region where there were more Germans than Russians.
>part of another union
The reason for joining was to escape you. Smaller nations have to pick sides, just like we did in WW2.
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>>138330444
Based trips balt!
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>>138330638
Their right as sovereign country to decide their policies. That's quite logical: they don't need lingua franca anymore after they gained independence from the soviet empire.

They dindu nuffin.
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>>138330638
>why did you learn English
I had to pick a foreign language in school, it was either Russian or English. I chose the relevant one.
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>>138330657

You never had to interact with the absolute hell that is Russian influence.

They are the devil meant to bring down the West - the last real bastion of old school Imperial evil.

And you will learn soon enough too, leaf, in your arctic.
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>>138323649
>Not dividing Moldova between Russia and Romania.
Low energy imperialism
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>>138329796
Antonov, even though it became a "Ukrainian" company, sourced critical parts from Russia. It was founded in Russia and moved its bureau and final assembly to Ukraine to boost that SSR's numbers, but the important stuff stayed in Russia.
Antonov fell. It didn't produce any new airframe and, part by part, it is selling its know-how to the Chinese (Mriya production documentation sold completely by now). This made more room on the market for the 747F (freight variant)

Armies across Central Europe can no longer accept Russian radars and are in the process of refitting to more expensive American products

Sikorsky made a huge deal in Central Europe replacing Russian helicopters with the more nimble Blackhawk, which however has a reduced payload and higher price
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>>138329905
>Good job. For what gain ?
That's irrelevant to the question.

>You antagonized so much of the EU and US against you that anything tainted by Russian NGOs, media and interests is generally disavowed.
So... nothing changed?
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>>138330657
>implying you aren't projecting yourself into others
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>>138323021

>implying we have any control whatsoever over the establishment MIC

We can't vote our way out of it senpai, sorry, we tried.
>>
gee I didn't see that coming. inb4 mccain gives out blini made from water to close down the gas pipes in ukraine so europe gets cucked into buying much more expensive LNG becoming even more depending on the goyshekels and taking credit from the central goybank while getting blacked by encouragement from the goytertainment courtesy of the united state of goys.

I really hope America burns, nothing as culturally and morally corrupt or destructive has ruled the majority of this earth before.
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>Armies across Central Europe can no longer accept Russian radars and are in the process of refitting to more expensive American products

Can confirm. Fuck yeah.

Reminder to Ruskies :

PATRIOTS

HIMARS

PAC3

AEGIS

http://www.politico.eu/article/snakes-russia-deputy-pm-dmitry-rogozin-romanian-authorities/
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>>138329796
Not to mention that high-quality hardsteel and rubber is sourced from Russia, since the EU lacks natural resources (mostly depleted rare metal mines, small oil fields, not enough charcoal).

Anything where parts from recycled metals and oil products won't cut it is designed in the EU, Made in Russia
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>>138331147
Into archive
https://unvis.it/politico.eu/article/snakes-russia-deputy-pm-dmitry-rogozin-romanian-authorities
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>>138329201
It's double wierd because our nazis(UNAUNSO) fought together with russians for the liberation of that shithole.
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>>138331135
Fucking this
Finally a non goy post ITT
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>>138319467
Usa cucks are really scared of eu russia friendship aren't they
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>>138330902

I never personally thought of Russia much before 2014. They seemed friendly in diplomacy, effective against terror and islam, Nabuco pipeline with US and their NGOs fought with Jehovah's Witnesses and Penticostals which brought about a lot of kek..


Now you went full retard.
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>>138331247

It's your only shot at being a threat.
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>>138331310
Where did they go full retard?
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>>138330696
>How ironic coing form a Russian.
But that don't makes you think of course.

>Smaller nations have to pick sides, just like we did in WW2.
Yeah, like I said: you like that casino looser which always placing the on wrong bets and then rely on his parents to get money again.
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>>138330972
Great argument
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>>138331247
>>138331247

Be friendly with those who want nothing more than establish control over you and the allies that made you one of the foremost economic power.
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>>138331247

>Usa cucks are really scared of eu russia friendship aren't they

I doubt Russia is interested in friendship with an entity they want to destroy.
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>>138331247
THIS

They're trying to keep a buffer between both of us and keep us divided. They went to shill in Poland for specifically that reason - so they have a fallback line in case Ukraine goes down.
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>>138331537

>I doubt Russia is interested in friendship with an entity they want to destroy.

I wouldn't be, politics can make strange bedfellows, if only for a short time.
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>>138331537
Friendship is a flexible term, ya know.
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>>138329900

Russia already occupied the naval bases there before the revolution. NATO isn't going to move to an area with a high foreign military presence without being forced out. Neither US or any new Keiv govt would do that without starting a war.

Russia is noe collapsing from sanctions and lost its most important ally forever and still doesn't have a land bridge to Ukraine.
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>>138331591

Have you looked at Poland's military numbers recently ?

Good fucking look with that.
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>>138331773
luck*
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>>138331537
Russia wants a real friendship with Europe tho
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>>138330543
If anyone is into muh astrology, this is the worst time to do anything, its moment its ment be a peroid to sit back and reflect on ones dark internal thought patterns, not put them into action.
Mecury is in retro grade or some shit.
>saw this on some astrology webvid i and don't know anything about it. But everyone is losing their shit.
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>>138319467
>on Ukraine

Why are they so weird with nouns and verbs?
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>>138331461
Another crap analogy
>parents
And who would that be? Russia? Good one.
You are more like the drunk neighbour who stumbles into the wrong home occasionally, and go axe crazy when get pointed out for it.
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>>138331761

*land bridge to crimea
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>>138325036
>little gypsy threat to invade
Last time when your ancestors tried it ended up with total annihilation your whole army, so you're welcome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Army_(Romania)#Battle_of_Stalingrad


The only one thing we consider seriously is china's invasion
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>>138331537
We need oil gas n sheit and they need money together we would rule the world and thats the only reason the usa doesn't want it to happen
Get some clue about geopolitics idiot
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>>138331761
Stop getting news from CNN you idiot.
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>>138320697
What will you do when I'm a hillbilly antifa?
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>>138331833
>в/нa Укpaинe
I never knew this is a thing in English too lmao.
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>>138331181
Because
>ooga booga we muh slav friends
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>>138331773
That's not the point. They want Poland (and V4/intermarium/whatever else that includes Eastern Europe) to leave the EU so they become a neutral buffer between Russia and the EU while hating both those entities. That way the EU and Russia will never unite or even become friendly, while the US will have their neutral buffer where they can unload their army and be D&C kikes

Thankfully that's not going to happen because the americans and poles have 0 things in common and they can be friends as much as Iran and China can
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>>138331953
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10% of Ukrainians are in Poland anyways
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>>138331832

Are you empty-skulled ? Astrology ?

Buy yourself a telescope, SpaceEngine or read a fucking book, you conspiramongrel.
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>>138332004
Pls explain. You wouldn't say "On France" or "On Russia".

Is this because Ukraine denotes a certain region rather than a country or what?
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>>138331843
Everything is crap for such uneducated bydlo as you who can't even into simple internet browsing, much less reading sentences longer than on twitter
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>>138332016

Americans and Poles/Romanians are pretty good friends and we have a lot in common.


Have you checked any polls, our media, joint mil drills, even /pol/ ?

Bilateral friendship matters. The best example is contemporary : even if they got a puppet in the White House, the Ruskies still can't do shit because Americans and American reps hate their guts.
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>>138331832

Why do you always make me laugh?
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>>138320141
For some reason they approve black soldiers to European countries before the white ones
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>>138331898

>We need oil gas n sheit and they need money

We already get oil and gas from them and they get our money, it's called trade and we've been buying oil and gas from them since the seventies.
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>>138332311
Yeah but the new sanctions are targeting North stream now. Germany is against sanctions against Russia
Free market : good for USA, bad if anyone else does it
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>>138332256
What has any of this have to do with the subject at hand? Or is this another failed attempt at an analogy?
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>>138332157
Might be that region/country thing. I don't even know myself (I tend to avoid the Ukraine theme, just don't like to talk about that). It's probably related to those yankee flags referring to the country as "the Ukraine".

Some Ukrainians get assblasted over wrong wording, and rightly so.
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>>138320051
hahahaha stupid pole
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>>138332406
>Free market : good for USA, bad if anyone else does it
You literally pointed out why markets are never free.
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>>138322817
>You did annex their lands...
The US just militarily occupied Ukraine.
>You did invade their country with russian soldiers..
US soldiers have been undercover in Ukraine since it started, now it's militarily occupied.
>You did kill ukrainian civilians and military...
Nope, Ukrainians paid by the US killed other Ukrainains.
>You did bomb their cities....
Ukrainians paid by the US bombed their own cities.

>You did turn their country into Oligarchstan...
Poroshenko- not an oligarch?
Kolomoiski- not an oligarch?
>You did control their industry...
Lol, Biden Jr now controls Ukrainian oil.

>
You never let Poorkraine develop, you maintained it into another soviet shithole, just like you did with Kazakshtan, Moldova, Belarus
Meanwhile, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, former provinces, all have higher wages and higher HDI than Russia.
While russians have to smuggle finnish cheese because Putler wants to suck chink dick.

US is effectively exporting cuckoldry in Europe. That's worse than communism and it takes a lot to be worse than that. After 80 years of communism, Eastern Europe can rebuild.
After 50 years of melting pot, multiculturalism and replacement migration, the damage to Europe will be irreparable. Western Europeans will disapper. What do you think is worse, you complete retard?

Stop blindly hating Russia, we have a much bigger problem, you utter cuck.
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>>138323343

Not anymore Boris, not anymore. Now it's a US territory. Facts on the ground.
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>>138332157
You would also not say "On Ukraine"

It's a bandwagon. Someone made a mistake and no one doubted him
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>>138332406

Nordstream 2 isn't needed in terms of supply and demand.
Russia needs it to divert the gas that currently goes through Ukraine. It's a political project, not a commercial one.
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>>138332445
I've been posting The Ukraine in these kinds of threads since they were jumping up and down outside the embassy. I'd rarely get bites, but they came from all kinds of flags.

I've never seen it have this kind of lasting impact on a thread. I'm quite happy with my efforts this morning.
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>>138324806
Who's going to protect Europe from American nigger soldiers?

Oh right, you prefer cuckoldry to Russia.
Ok
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>>138319467
Ameritards are proud because they got the hohol country pretty funny no one wants this piece of shit country
T.hohol
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>>138332016

America doesn't want the Russians and the Germans to have their way with Eastern Europe the same way the Polish don't want them to be. Polish usually view the U.S very favorably and will align themselves and their region of the world to them in order to keep their collective independence from Brussels, Berlin, and Moscow

Now, I've also heard a Polish foreign minister suggest that the American-Polish alliance. I think the EU has become a different beast than what was promised to the citizens of Europe, it's time for this undemocratic institution to end and be consigned to the dust bin of history.
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>>138321073
>how's this helping Ukraine?
HahahahahahahabahBBhhhhhHHhAhahahaha!
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>>138332637

I see successful active measures and an amazing utilization of intelligence services when I look on this board.
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>>138332750
Everything you do has a lasting impact, my friend. Of whatever magnitude, there always is impact.
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>>138332637

>US is effectively exporting cuckoldry in Europe. That's worse than communism and it takes a lot to be worse than that. After 80 years of communism, Eastern Europe can rebuild.
After 50 years of melting pot, multiculturalism and replacement migration, the damage to Europe will be irreparable. Western Europeans will disapper. What do you think is worse, you complete retard?

You live in a parallel universe that has nothing to do with reality. You need to get out more.
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>>138321093
An Aussie can't throw shit about cuck puppets.
We've never been anything else.
First UK bitch, now US bitch, and China waiting fir it's turn in line for the gangbang.
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I read Brzezinski's 'the grand chess board' like 5 years ago and he talks about how the US must take Ukraine to ruin Russia strategically back in 98 and I thought it was unlikely. What a redpill to see it happen over the last few years
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>>138332637

There's no mudslimes in our country and we will never accept them en-masse.

Russia is really the only serious threat. Against mudslimes, you need to woke people and tighten security and kick em out if not-integrated. Ez pz, few resources.

Against Russia, you fight for the existence of Europe and the very lives of your children, not some demographic pedantry.
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>>138332637
>The US just militarily occupied Ukraine
Wrong. The Ukrainian state called welcomes them.
>US soldiers have been undercover in Ukraine since it started, now it's militarily occupied.
In that case Russians have been waging full blown war there in comparison.
>Nope, Ukrainians paid by the US killed other Ukrainains.
This is a special kind of 'wat'
>Ukrainians paid by the US bombed their own cities.
...
>Poroshenko
>Kolomoiski
Hypocrisy. And local olgarchs are still better than foreign ones.
>exporting cuckoldry in Europe
You have quite the imagination
>worse than communism
You don't know what you are taking about.
>melting pot, multiculturalism and replacement migration
That is a thing only in America, western Europe and Russia. eastern Europe generally resists this
>blindly hating Russia
You can hate Russian foreign policies and mindset without being blind about anything.
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>>138333018
It's been going on for longer. It just got taken to bizarre extremes after the neocons implemented 9/11 so they could go full retard in Central Asia.

It is crazy how closely recent history has been following that book. You'd think if there were such a popular playbook in print that they would have switched plays by now.
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>>138321159
Hello Ruskie. You ate "correct". Them's the rules..
But Uncle Sam does what likes, fuck the rules...
There'll be permanent US ships in Black Sea in 3-5 years.
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>>138332875
Ukrainian military planes fly around Central Africa. Ask yourself what for.

The Ukrainian government has so little support from its own military, it must hire mercenaries and Blackwater / whatevertheycallthemselvesnow.

Ukraine inherited its army from the Soviet Union and every ex-soviet man has undergone military training. There are snipers, tankers and AA experts among the civilian population, and still with such power, Ukraine has not been able to decisively crush the rebels.

Ask yourself why.

The answer is simple, and Odessa, a free imperial city within Imperial Russia, is a prime example: the draft there failed and resulted in clashes between the populace and the government.

No matter whatever stories the MSM peddles, the native boots on the ground don't want to put their lives on the line for Ukraine
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>>138332637

Because when you give them a finger, accept them into OECD though they don't meet the criteria, GIBS ME DAT preferntial loans and Western friendship in the 90s, they'll take your whole fucking hand 20 years later.
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>>138332311
Here's the future. Don't forget any future pipeline developments are already out of the question. Goynald trump will of course sooner or later blow Syria out of existence to show his 'strong and steady' hand in leadership and end the external evil behind America's ills. Qatar pipeline will be up and running and some lucrative deals will be made.
The petrodollar will be stronger than ever before, middle east will slowly depopulate and wither into more chaos courtesy of the shit stirred by America there for 20 years now, but at least will be a lucrative arms market. Europe will continue to mix and eventually grow exponentially in numbers in a united and indebted eurounion, an ugly copy of han chinese known as 'moham' european will now inhabit the continent. It will become the new market for revitalized American industry supporting the global debt machine. China will eventually be sanctioned to death and split, russia will rot away and later be exterminated as last remnants of 'whites' are dehumanized to vermin status. Isreal will expand in a now depopulated middle east and build anew a great kingdom.

This is the future you chose :^)
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>>138333018
Year I read it just after 9/11...
Forgot about it. It literally fell out of my bookcase last year and I gave it another read.
It won't stop till Russia uses newks to save itself...
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>>138333239

Because they're American allies INVITED THERE, you fucking mongrel.

Because America represents an objectively superior model of civilziation.

Because they treat these countries with respect, and it oftentimes comes with trade deals.

Because fuck Russian influence.
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Ukraine : depopulation is the goal
>Ukraine doesn't count its emigration
Ukraine held its last census in 2001. At that time its population accounted 48,457,000 people.
The official figures as on Jun 1, 2017 show a demographic disaster: 42,482,000, 6 million or 13% down in 16 years.

Bread consumption
A notable Ukrainian analysis shows that the bread consumption had plummeted 55% between 2000 and 2016:

It should be taken into account that in Ukrainian culture the fall of incomes impacts the consumption of bread in a minimal scale or even leads to its increase as the bread often replaces more expensive products like meat and fish. Therefore, 55% decrease in bread production together with lowering incomes evidence that Ukraine has apparently lost half of its population for the last 16 years.

>Number of the schoolchildren
During the 1995/1996 school year there were 7.1 million schoolchildren in Ukraine. In the 2015/2016 schoolyear it was down to 3,783,150 (official data of the Ministry of Education of Ukraine) or 47% in 20 years.

>Ukrainian Institute for the Future
In June 2017 the Ukrainian Institute for the Future released a symptomatic report with the following graphics:


It shows that there are only 12.3 million officially declared jobs in Ukraine today.
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>>138333516
>they're American allies invited there
Exactly.
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>>138333326
I unironically believe this will happen
Fuck this world
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>>138333326

Sounds like an utopia, an end to history, tradition, probably religion and everything else retarded and worthless in the world.

Neoliberalism is winning and you can't do shit about it.
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>>138333239
In case this happen we already have plans to deliver some sophisticated weapons to Iran, Afghanistan or Best Korea. So I don't think so.
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>>138333699
You forgot the /s at the end of your post
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>>138333588
>there are only 12.3 million officially declared jobs in Ukraine today
Gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with their nation being artifically kept in a limbo by a pseudo-war on their soil...
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>>138333806

What a select group of allies.

What examples of leadership and good governance, of human rights and decency and all things that make life worth living for its countries citizens.

Russia truly hangs with the popular kids.
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>>138333869
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>>138333516
We still have a few tombstones left over from encounters with American "civilization" in my hometown. They are getting removed, but some are still there, and I remember the others. The latest one to be removed was the tombstone of a boy that was found beneath the rubble of his family home still clutching a book.

We had nothing apart from farmland and vineyards here, and we still got bombed. The bridge, 2 km west of the settlement, never got hit. It had 3 flak guns protecting it, the village had 1.

Retreating Germans burned what remained of it down.

The Red Army brought order and trade. They traded their cattle, driven with the army and thus thin, for fat cattle of the local farmers (or rather, what was left)

After the war, the Communists electrified the entire country

"Superior model of civilization" my ass
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>>138333815

What s, you mongrel fuck face ?

Neoliberalism is winning because it's the natural progression of humanity.

These are but the last dying screams of communists and nazis and rogue states.

There will need to be a huge conflict to truly establish and World Order - maybe i'm lucky and it happens in my lifetime. That part kind of sucks, but to make an omelette you have to kill a few civilians.

Meanwhile, more H I M A R S and P A T R I O T
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>>138331147
Reminder to you, you have whored out your country for the bribes and whatever retardation from the US. You will be flooded with refugees as part of the deal. Good job being stupid.
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>>138333893
These are not allies but convenient tools for maintain our international agenda my friend
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>>138333699
It is utopia, because there will be no alternative. And it will be the end of history, a new age will be set in stone and if you're not Jewish (not as you would think Jewish, but that's a secret ;) ), then you will disappear into a mix of nothingness with no future or past. It's not neoliberalism, communism or whatever, it will just be life, you will not even know what ideologies are by the end of it, all you will know is your place in the hierarchy, your basic desires and your usefulness.

Better join the specific part of the gov now so you can at least save yourself a good place to start.
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>>138334055

Yeah, Slovakia should really revert back to communism.
What has liberal democracy and capitalism ever done for Slovakia?
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Anonymous (ID: RQQlvbv8) 08/20/17(Sun)09:43:46 No.138266092▶>>138266850
>Manafort Lobbies for Victor Yanukovich, ousted Ukrainian Prime Minister in 2009
http://archive.is/hjSI7 (CNN)

>That year, Swine Flu Breaks out weeks before the election in Ukraine and Russia
http://archive.is/7SgN9
http://archive.is/e4NqI
http://archive.is/Jud1y

>That year, Israeli scientist claims that Swine flu was a biowarfare agent that was released in Ukraine, and gets summarily arrested in armed standoff en route to Israeli consulate with hundreds of officers swarming him with swat gear
http://archive.is/AAhjG
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>>138334104
>theft by enslavement of people for the benefit of GDP growth in a world with finite ressources

>natural progression

Pick one
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>>138334104
Personal anecdotes are not a good way to form a worldview.

Meanwhile, your country has democracy, rule of law, a free market and human rights because American influence.

You should be thankful and respectful of your allies.
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>>138334050
So? Of course they would go to Poland instead when their own nation is getting bled dry by a phony war, just so that Russians would have a reason to not look at their internal matters. Once the Ukraine conflict gets stale, we're next.
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>>138329178
Caucasian ovcharka best doggo
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>>138334398

What finite resources besides helium, fucker ?

Another meme. GDP growth is what keeps your fat ass on your comfy chair thinking of abstract things and politics and human nature and art..

..instead of throwing molotovs at communists because you're starving.
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>>138334404
>Once the Ukraine conflict gets stale, we're next.
Yep.
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>>138334374
Eastern Europe used to be such a shit hole. Poland in 1970 had a lower GDP (nominal) per capita than Chad in 2017 lol.
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>>138334216

I'm in IR, crisis management. Maybe for the Gov someday, but would prefer Brussels.

Lotsa pollocks in law and IR, just saying. Though mostly lurking.
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>>138334404
Latvia is already in NATO. That could provoke a more interesting question of treaty obligations than Turkey's shenanigans.
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>>138334374
Corruption-inducing EU monetary stimuli that killed the agriculture sector? You know, because the net profit is better when simply owning arable land as opposed to doing anything on it.

Death of the milk industry, because domestic milk production couldn't compete with German skimmed milk?

Purchase of our factories for the symbolic price of 1 Sk, and 40 years worth of tax breaks?

Ridiculous stagnation in rural development only surpassed by Czech rural stagnation?
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>>138334579
Doesn't matter. Eventuallt they would lose that one too.
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New thread

>>138334708

>>138334708

>>138334708


>>138334708

>>138334708
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>>138334404

>Once the Ukraine conflict gets stale, we're next.

As long as you're a NATO member Putin will never even think about it.
If you had never joined NATO the Russians would have invaded Latvia and Estonia years ago.
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>>138334716
I have no faith in NATO at all. I believe they would disband the moment article 5 would be called upon.
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>>138334815
>Putin will never even think about it.
Don't be sure about it. Back in 2012 they wanted to officially review the legality of our independence.
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>>138334724

You can't compete, you get fucked.

That's how you get better and better at it and achieve innovation.

Agriculture is also something that will soon belong to the past.
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>>138334861
I don't have much faith in it either, but whether you think /pol/ is full of Russiaboos or not, the fact is that this sort of outright Russian expansionism is likely to be met with popular outrage providing the political will to intervene in some fashion (ideally short of the Jewish desire to trigger WWIII) for a country that doesn't really cause problems or have a lot of attraction for international corporate profit.
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>>138335003
>Agriculture is also something that will soon belong to the past
That will never happen.
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