Dear conservatives, please explain to me why there should be

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>>138316201

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>>138316201
abortion is a satanic ritual done by evil ppl

It's not her body we care about, it's the baby's body.

>>138316201
it's the baby's choice because it is the baby's body

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>>138316201
.

>>138316278
It's just cells. Is taking the morning after pill killing a child?

>>138316201
I know its bait but I'll answer anyway, maybe for someone else who is interested.

The question is not "Should woman be able to do what she wants with her body"
The question is "Is it woman's body?"
And if it is her body when does it stop being that?

The pro-choice argument was never, ever, "Should woman be able to do with her body what she wants"

Only retarded conservatives oppose abortion in the legal sense. Abortion is a wonderful tool for culling undesirables. Of course, we should not allow anyone in our own families to kill their children.

I don't give a shit if you want an abortion, I just won't pay for it

>>138316278
You're autistic. Explain to me why a woman cant decide what to do with her own body.

>>138316201
Because abortion after 6 weeks is a murder.

>>138316201
I'm pro abortion because most abortions are made by shitskins.

Please kill more babies.

>>138316403
this guy gets it

>>138316403
Morning after pill is fine, the baby isn't developed yet. There's a point in the first trimester when it becomes recognizable as a human and abortion should no longer be allowed. A heartbeat can be detected as early as 6 weeks.

>>138316773
>this guy gets it
You're just cells.
Is having you swallow a cyanide pill murder?

This argument is stupid.
The only argument I can accept is the one about sentience.

TECHNICALLY speaking, my tumor is as alive as a 1 month fetus. Neither have sentience.

But it can be argued that a newborn baby has sentience. Hence, you cannot kill it without taking a "life".

>>138316201
I'm just pissed that they throw the fetuses away.
I'd bet they taste good with some BBQ sauce.
Probably nutritious.

>>138316201
After 6 weeks it's not just a patch of cells, it's another human being growing in the womb. Why not put the child up for adoption instead of killing it before it's born?

>>138316201
>why there should be literally any restrictions on abortion.
Because there is a valid argument to be made that it violates the rights of another human being to life. You'd have to first prove that a fetus isn't a human being that has rights. Good luck.

>>138316201

it is the definition of degeneracy in a healthy society.

right for an innocent to life

versus

uhhhh the right for me to fuck around like a slut without any consequences

yeah, real tough issue

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>>138316876
>A heartbeat can be detected as early as 6 weeks.
Mice have heartbeats. The fuck is your point?
>There's a point in the first trimester when it becomes recognizable as a human
That something is recognizable as a human does not mean it's a human.

>>138316201
>please explain to me why there should be literally any restrictions on abortion

There shouldn't be.
However it should be strongly discouraged as it is just about the most selfish thing a person can do and THE STATE SHOULD NOT BE FUNDING IT.

>>138317246
This guy gets it. Why not feed the homeless or poor with all that nutrition?

>>138317511
They literally aren't retard. Look up the hyde amendment.

>>138317511
they aren't you fucking moron.

>>138316201
Think big picture.

It's a good thing that there are restrictions so that you don't incentive bad behaviour.

Unfortunately conservatives often get into arguments revolving around the point at which the fetus becomes a human.

The proper argument for/against abortion should be based on utility towards the woman, society and the economy.

>>138317752
>t.ant

>>138316201
>1 sperm
>1 egg
The decision should always be made by both parents unless one of them raped the other.

>>138317660
>>138317740
Well no problem then.
Why do I always hear about planned parenthood and state funded abortions then?

>>138317988
Except one of them doesn't have the fetus growing inside them.

>>138318038
Because half of all arguments that come out of conservatives mouths are complete bullshit.

>>138318049
One of them won't have to deal with a nagging wife and an ungrateful child for the next 18 years to 25 years.

>>138318123
Half coming out of leftist mouths is bullshit too. What's your point?

>>138316403
It's attempted murder.

If I deliberatly set up a death-trap when there is only a 30% chance somebody will walk into it and some wanker actually walks into it, I clearly had the intention of ending a human life.

With the morning after pill your intention is to end a potential human life. Hence attempted murder.

Take a night before pill you lazy sluts.

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>>138318290
That's just objectively not true. People who watch Fox News are less informed than people who don't watch the news. Fox News and their audience is overwhelmingly right wing.

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>>138317660
>>138317740
>>138318123

Why would you BS me like that?

>>138318524
Because planned parent hood does more than just abortions. 97% of what Planned Parenthood does is not abortion related. Why don't conservatives seem to know anything about the issues they claim to be so concerned about

>>138316440
Margaret Sanger knew what's up

>>138318524
And the abortions that they do are paid for by the persons insurance or out of pocket. No state money goes towards abortions.

>>138318650
>state funds abortion factory
>"yeah but the state isn't funding the abortions"

Yeah nah mate that's not cricket.

>>138316201
Please explain to me why there should be gun control, faggot.

>>138319113
Cause mentally ill people shoot up innocent people.

>>138317495
As somebody who isn't christian, you shouldn't be the guy posting the jesus mural. Fuck off cunt.
Baby's develop brain cells as a 6 week old fetus, and you're killing a thinking living human being.
If you're a christian, there's soul and shit you just killed to.

>>138319314
Mentally ill people abort innocent fetuses.
Tell us again about gun control.

>>138318405
It's not murder because an unborn fetus is not legally alive.

It must leave the womb and taken a breath to be considered legally alive.

>>138318744
Checked. Unironically this. Planned Parenthood is a eugenics program to kill nigger babies. Best part: white, liberal women do it happily.

The issue isn't abortion its single motherhood

ITT: Roastie trying to justify getting an abortion because she spread her legs for Tyrone last night.

>>138320172
you're extremely not funny mate

>>138319579
Oh yeah, can't stand those women who get abortions and end the lives of 49 people who already started their lives, had hopes goals and dreams.

>>138316201

Abortion is a human sacrifice ritual -- the most powerful known to exist. It was invented by eugenics operatives within the occultic elite to cury Satan's favor while gaining his protection of their warmaking, usury, currency manipulation, and control over the minds of men.

Why is abortion the most powerful form of ritual human sacrifice? Because it entails the most defenseless victims conceivable (the unborn) being murdered by the very persons most duty-bound to love and protect them from harm -- their own mothers, and medical doctors who've sworn oaths to their gods to do no harm.

These ritual murders which society misnames abortions are, furthermore, carried out in a nonchalant and routinized fashion exclusively to facilitate hedonistic apathy, laziness, and convenience; symbolically placing ten seconds of vaginal pleasure above the value of a human lifetime's worth of a living, breathing human being's consciousness.

In short, Satan loves abortion because it symbolizes evil within cruelty within evil. It proffers that a few seconds of vaginal contractions mean more than human life itself, and it does this using the greatest symbols of love and compassion (mothers and doctors), satanically inverted into spiritually numbed, unfeeling executioners.

So the next time you see a western woman screeching about her abortion rights on the steps of some state capitol, look into her empty eyes and know that you're seeing more than a simple murderer. Look into her eyes and know that you're seeing a demon, the very definition of evil. And know that the steady stream of death she inflicts on the unborn is what powers the elite's satanic karma.

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>>138317495
>does not mean it's a human
>a human fetus
>not a human

Nice b8 m8

>>138320369
A chunk of flesh is identifiable as a human. Doesn't mean it's alive and sentient.

>>138320369
get cancer you're so fucking retarded

>>138316201
I had an ex-girlfriend who dreamed, speaking in tears every single time she texted me of the details, of what her son could've been like. She even fell for some new age mystic scammer who offered him as some vision of a great soldier.

Gradually, I had to put as much distance as I could for my sanity, until I eventually broke up with her. We remain friends, bit no more.

I am telling you right now, this leftist insanity is killing liberalism, feminism, and the West completely. She even acknowledges it.

>>138316201
why do women think a baby is part of their body? they are merely a host

>>138320651
Damn she's crazy. It's a good thing the vast majority of women are happy they didn't ruin their lives by having a kid and continue with their lives normally after their abortions.

>>138320705
delete man. delete. delete.
i know its 4chan and you cant delete but man you're embarrassing yourself

>>138316201
It's a man's seed as well. Two people commit the act, two people must choose. What else are women good for besides pussy and baby making

>>138320705
Why do you masturbate? Why do males think that those little swimming guys are part of their body? They are merely a host.

>>138316201
Of you can kill a baby without its permission, I can rape without permission. End of story.

>>138320971
????what

explain please

>>138320971
pls explain your argument

>>138320275
They prevent the lives of 49 people who could've been. Lives that in many cases, they had no right to get rid of. (Like if the father wants the kid, but the mother doesn't.)
I blame the person for the abortion though. Same way I blame the person for shooting a club. It's not the gun that's mentally ill.

>>138317495
>mice are comparable to human beings
you are a rat

>>138317335
When they stop charging you for murder if you gut punch a pregnant woman, I'll consider arguments for abortion.

>>138317740
But they are, you twat. And they have this fight every year since they started dumping money into Sangers butcher shops.

>women deserve the vote because we have the babies
>let us use our newfound suffrage to kill the babies

?????

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>>138316201
You mother fuckers are disgusting and should be ashamed.

>>138321475
why should i feel bad about this

explain please

>>138321475
Don't see the problem. It's not even human, why should I feel bad?

>>138316201
If you believe that you have the birthright to indescriminately kill the child you have created through careless sex for no other reason than "I don't want it", using abortion as retroactive birth control, you simply show that you are selfish. "ITS MY PUSSY THO" is a weak argument when you're killing 100% of the forming body of your child. Where are the rights of this life you created by opening your legs like the retard slut you are?

Medically risky pregnancy? Sure fine
Bad birth defect imminent? Ok
Rape baby? Wasn't meant to be?

One night stand or BF knocked you up?
You're a horrible person.

>>138321566
>>138321556
You should be aborted.

>>138316278
Why should our taxes pay for women to murder a child most often conceived out of sexual recklessness? And don't even try to make rape babies the standard scenario unless you want to put migrant tendencies on the table. Get outta here.

>>138321604
Good to hear your're pro choice

>>138321610
Ah, whoops. Misquote.
>>138316201

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>>138316201
Dont care either way, but dont make me pay for those abortion thru planted parenthood.

>>138316550
explain why she has the right to kill a human being because she didn't want to use contraception

>>138321475

Killers

>>138321610
>>138321720
They literally don't. Look up the hyde amendment.

>>138321721
>implying its human

>>138316201
>It's the woman's choice because it is her body you fucking morons.
no retard, it's another humans body. and on top of that it's the fathers kid too.

>>138321556

First explain HOW you feel.

>>138321822
mate we just went over this it's literally just a bunch of cells

>>138321822
It's a bunch of cells. It isn't human and it isn't growing inside the father.

>>138321848
i do not care in the slightest
it is not human, why should i

>>138321848
We literally feel nothing. It's not human.

>>138321566

Not even human?!?!?!

YOU explain that. As far as I know, you Row v. Wade-ers think it's not a LIVE human. Which is much different. As in HUMAN embryo, HUMAN fetus.

>>138321914

Was that a horse fetus?

>>138321920

Was that an elephant fetus?

>>138322231
They're just human cells. If I cut of my finger would you consider that another person? Cause if you don't then you see what I mean about it not being human, and if you do consider it a person then you're just retarded.

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>>138317495
>That something is recognizable as a human does not mean it's a human.
Whut. Just because you're recognizable as a human does not mean you're a human? You can exterminate those who are "recognizable as a human" as long as they're smaller and more helpless than you and can hence be called not human, right? So if someone killed you, it would be on the up-and-up provided they were physically stronger and more intelligent than you.

>>138321877
>>138321882
if you don't want kids then don't have unprotected sex every day like a fucking animal.
and if it's just a bunch of cells when does it becomes a human?
is it a bunch of cells until it comes out of a vagina and then it magically becomes a human being? nigger this "cell lump" has a beating heart and a brain way before it comes out of you, if you don't want to take care of the kid because you are an irresponsible fuck then put it in an orphanage, and as i said before if you don't want a kid don't be a fucking slut and fuck all the time unprotected.

>>138321821
>implying it's not
Heartbeat
Able to register pain
Performs essential functions of life -reproduction

It's alive

>>138322372
>comparing a finger to a future adult
Nigga does your finger have a heart, does it have a brain, will it grow up and become another human? you are missing so many points.

>>138322480
Why should a woman have to go through the pain of child birth if she doesn't want to? When talking about late term abortions I value the life of a fully developed human with developed relationships, goals and dreams over that of the unborn. I don't want a woman's life ruined because of one a mistake.

>>138316201
I'm libertarian and femanon. Most support salty abortion if a woman was raped. If she wasn't raped then she already made her choice. If you willingly engage in sex then you know there are risks of getting pregnant....its written right there on the side of the birth control.
I believe in individual rights until those rights are impeding on other peoples rights. Abortions are ending a life that is not the parents. If you want to kill yourself maybe I would be okay with it... (Given you're sober, competent, and have had time to really think it through)....but this isn't your life and hence it shouldn't be your choice. Technology will make abortion obsolete though. You are on the wrong side of a dying issue. In 50 years people will gasp in horror at what you people used to support

>>138322197
it is just a bunch of cells. It's not a human.

>>138322729
>Why should a woman have to go through the pain of child birth if she doesn't want to?
then don't get pregnant in the first place retard

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Atheist, left, medfag here. Abortion is wrong pretty early on. Why is this never characterized as a human rights issue? (killing little women for example) Working in the er, I have helped with a variety of spontanous abortions from trauma, miscarrage etc. After about two months they are pretty much people. Its just the truth.

>>138322372

First it's not a human.

Now it's not a fetus.


It's a human fetus, which is not the same as a drop of blood magically making humanity reproduce like in a comic book.

Amateurish use of an equivocation fallacy. Which doesn't surprise me, since Roe v. Wade is nothing more than a "No True Scotsman" fallacy on human life.

>>138322831
like most of the people in this thread, mistakes can happen.

>>138322803
No, it's not just a bunch of cells any more or less than any living being in any stage of development is a bunch of cells. It's a human in an early stage of development.

>>138322831
Are you fucking retarded? You think women willingly get pregnant just so they can have an abortion? It's 90% of the time unintended.

>>138316403
Look up the meaning of the word fetus....its a euphemism....much how the military calls Arabs "targets".
Anyways....they're not a "group of cells" anymore than you are. You've Cleary never taken a&p.

>>138322962
You think women willingly get HIV just so they can go on HIV medication? It's 90% of the time unintended.

>>138316201
A lot of Conservatives don't understand that a fetus never becomes a baby if you have to take it out of the womb, because a fetus is not viable/self sufficient. Abortions will happen no matter what the law says, just like gay couples, etc. Most conservatives don't realize that they have it pretty good, but their constant overreach of other's rights are causing people not to like them.

Their lives would be a lot easier if they would just worry about themselves and not try to come after other people.

I hope conservatives learn their lesson this time after this presidency, because nobody wants to take away their rights, the left just doesn't want any hate speech that incites violence towards minorities.

>>138316201
There shouldn't be. But in return you need to stop getting pissy at Iceland for aborting all their Downs Syndrome babies.

And if there turns out to be a gay gene that's detectable in the womb, you need to support gay abortions. Deal?

>>138323066
What is your argument

>>138322803

Fallacy of equivocation. Added the "A" there to cover up you are (and still are) wrong.

You are misinformed. This is not a science debate. It's a policy debate. That policy being when do we consider a human fetus alive to grant it rights in opposition to those of the carrier (mom).

Science is settled. It's human. It's a human fetus.

>>138316201
because women shouldn't have rights
saged

Her body, my sperm. I don't give a fuck what she says, that child is half mine, and I'll kill her before I kill that child.

>>138323272
I often wonder what happens when the woman says "I'm pregnant" and the man insists that he'll raise the child solo if he has to, but she insists on killing it before then.

someone haven't heard of birth control

>>138318650
I've been to planned parenthood I know what they do.....and does it matter if I am a hairdresser and 97% of the time I dont kill someone? I don't think you understand the argument against planned parenthood. Which is basically a bunch of Nazis.. Literally they were set up to passively kill off blacks.

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>>138323272
Actually your right, if you did kill her, she would die just before the fetus.

>>138323364
Someone hasn't heard of the possibility that it doesn't work.

>>138323272
How pro life of you. Also the fetus would almost certainly die along with her.

>>138323108
Right and murder and robbery and slavery happens regardless of the law. Should we make those legal to?

>>138323272
>i'll kill her before i kill the child in her

?????????????????????????????

>>138323456
Aye straya cunt go back to worrying about NZ sabotaging your political agendas. (but seriously why is your news all over NZ like wtf have they done to you)

>>138323456
>woaaahh the small possibility of it not working is a good enough reason to allow any women to abort whenever she wants however she wants
what a fucking lame excuse

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>>138323646
lmao it's a problem with members of our parliament having dual citizenship. It's really retarded but no where near as stupid as the shit that happens in the U.S. thankfully.

>>138316201
>her body
>Implying private property

My almonds are activated.

>>138323706
No, not wanting someones life to be ruined because of an unwanted, unintended pregnancy is the reason.

>>138316201
Freedom doesn't mean freedom from responsibility. If you're too retarded to use dirt cheap contraceptives, live with the consequences.

>>138323456
So if I take a gamble and lose should I be reimbused until I win big?

>>138316201
because men don't have the right to abort.

>>138316201
Just wear a condom, take birth control (not morning after), or use spermicide lube if your donna be a whore.
>inb4 but spermicide kills cells that could become babies you hypocrite!
Learn the difference between haploid and diploid cells retards.

>>138323878
Yeah, because humans are hardwired to gamble. Not have sex, gamble.

>>138322372
You're just a bunch of human cells. I mean what if I dismember your head? All I did was detach some cells from other cells? Are you really this level of autistic?

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>>138323108
a baby is not self sufficient either, your argument is retarded.

>>138323824
You rather kill someone then? Good to know. I honestly can't date pro choice guys....they're just too comfortable with murder.

>>138324021
Yeah, because me sitting here typing, with hopes, goals opinions and relationships I've built with the people around me is comparable to the unborn. That hasn't even left the womb.

>>138324162
It's not a person.

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>>138324162
>you

>>138324162
it's

actually
not a person

>>138324152
looks like a prop for an alien movie

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none of these pictures make anyone fucking feel bad you moron stop ruining this thread with your shitty fucking pictures. why do you even these saved you fucking creep

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>>138324386
ikr killing babies is fun

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>>138324458
google image is a thing ma'am

>>138324468

well, if you look at it like a game, yeah, it totally could be fun. look at like killing an ant, but more of a challenge.

>>138324525
Why are you posting them? If it's meant to make me feel bad it isn't working they just look kinda yummy desu

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>>138324617
you are proving my point psychopath

>>138324675
'twas a joke you fucking sensitive ass pussy

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>>138324891
this is what you want

restriction?
no no
just because I don't think you should have a choice means I want it restricted
it should be forced

>>138316403
when do cells stop being cells?

>>138318049
With all the methods of contraception on the market + the incredible power of "NO!" a woman has if the consensual partner is an idiot without condom + the time it takes for the egg to be fertilized and become fetus= that fetus shouldn't even BE growing inside them.

ITT: Disgenics supporters
when will cuckservatives leave?

>>138319600
>is not legally alive
The law does not dictate morality. It's the law that is molded after society moral values.

>>138319600
if the baby is in the womb and is exactly the same size and has not yet breathed and you take a knife and stab it in the head a fully formed 9 month old baby it is not a human it'a only human when it takes a breath

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>>138316201
A woman who gets pregnant has made her "choice" the moment she decided to have intercourse without considering the consequences. She is simply reaping what she sowed. If the shameless promiscuity is continually promoted it is only hurting more children and the women themselves as it is simply shirking responsibility for her own actions.

>>138316201
I want to have the choice to kill people like a woman wants the choice to kill her own child.

>>138325963
How pro life of you.

>>138326006
answer me baby eater
>>138325429

>>138316201

evil isn't free.

>>138326108
I already addressed what I thought about late term abortion. Simply put, I'm more concerned about not ruining someones life because of a mistake. Especially if that person is young.

>>138326183
It isn't evil.

>>138316201
Dear leftard,
Please explain to me why their should be governmental restrictions on anything.

I used to be against abortion, but now I feel that we might be able to eliminate the bloodline of people who would kill their young in only one generation.
I'm more concerned for all the kittens these cat-ladies will leave behind.

>>138326401
i mean, good point.

i want cp. let's get cp.

>>138326707
Why not force them to find a butcher for the abortion resulting in the death of the child and the mother?