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Is it possible for anyone to transition from being red-pilled to blue-pilled? If so, name some examples. What are the causes and symptoms to look out for?
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>>138312429
well if you be gay, then get christian conversion therapy. you may go gay again... is this the answer you are looking for?
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I don't think it works that way.

You can't unknown what you know.. perhaps there is additional information/enlightenment that will move you beyond the red pill but you can't go back to blue

I'd love somebody to present me with information that moves me past red pill... I'm miserable.
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>>138312609
Take the lead pill, anon.
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>>138312429
I've never seen a single case of people going red to blue. Only choice once you go red is staying red or going black.
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Of course OP. Life is not black and white. Nothing is purely red or purely blue. Life is a large mix of colors and choices. The only one who can make them is you.
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>>138312429
Cypher from the matrix
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Women are shit, their nightmare is not having any attention, they are the parasites of humanity, their only jobs was to give birth and raise kids and they can't even do that.
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>>138312429
Watch The Matrix you faggot
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>>138312706
I can, but I can easily attribute that to (((them))) controlling the media. My Dad used to be "red" watching fox news and bill o reiley daily. Even asked me and my brother if we were on "the right side". But after the 2016 election and Trump he watches CNN every day now. :^(
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_autism

Take your pick
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just keep drinking your fluoride op and you'll have early onset dementia when your pineal calcifies

problem solved. watch some sports. eat some gmos
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>>138312904
He wasn't redpilled in the first place
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>>138312709
>t. Last page of a self-help book
>t. aka some niggerfaggot
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>>138312429
Moar pics of this broad and I'll tell you
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>>138312429
No. You're stuck here forever.
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>>138312429
pretty sure thats not possible even if you huff paint.
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>>138312429
If you don't take the final red pills on (((them))) I would assume it's possible.

There's also levels of red pilling.
Like the difference between /r/thedonald and Chad Nationalism.
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>>138312904
no that just means he went from republicuck blue pilled to democuck blu pilled.
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>>138312877
>steals 138312834's idea
>projects own faggotry on OP
>can't come up with real-world example
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Give me a brief definition of both before I talk about how I moved from red to blue. I'd like to know what each represents, and in unbiased terminology if possible.

Excuse any sort of lapse in whatever the hell the current 4chan etiquette is. It's been a long goddamned time.
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>>138312429
you're new here
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>>138312429
You can go back to blue, somewhat. When obama became president, i stopped following politics. So like when osama was caught, i never looked into how suspicious it was. Or when i noticed people tone policing, i didn't notice or care much. It wasn't till gamergate that politics invaded that forced me to see how fucked everything has gotten. It's easier to date when you're blue pilled. Red pilled is easier for a married man. That meme of the couple's internal dialogue is real. Also been drinking. Try drinking.
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>>138312990
This sounds legit, if I get a simple hobby like sports then I can fit in and tune out.
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>>138312429
Nope.
You default to leftardism because of government education, and once that's unlearned you can't really go back because you can't become ignorant again.
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>>138312429
once you see one lie, you see them everywhere. sorry but you are here forever
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>best friend is redpilled as fuck way before me
>one of his primary hobbies is researching the JFK assignation
>his dad dies and he becomes somewhat of a hermit for 3 years
>very negative and paranoid
>eventually snaps out of it
>gets a job with a six figure salary
>can't find a woman due to lost social skills
>gets on an iPhone dating app
>start dating literally the very first woman who pays him attention
>moves into her house and begins supporting her two children

He has become the most debased person I know. He scoffs at everything I tell him and only believes CNN. I don't know at what point he took the blue pill but it happened.
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>>138313167
>implying I read the thread
Anyone who ever gave up and just decided to stop caring about politics and spend their life partying has accepted Cyphers basic premise. I didn't expect you to be so fucking stupid as to not understand the meaning of it.
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>>138312429
Is bluepill just loosely defined as "left" ideas, and repill as "right"? Or is blue "common man" and red "conspiracy"?

Help me out here, I need to talk from an educated standpoint.
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>>138313581
Red = truth-seeking, critical thinking
Blue = naivety
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>>138313852
So what if you're truth-seeking, critically thinking, but your politics lean left? Is that still redpill, or blue because left is associated with naiveté?
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Closest example I can think of: Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs went from being a sort of Tea Party Republican to being some sort of Democrat/leftist.
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You cannot go feom red to blue. Everyone who is red knows this but it is pointless to bring this up with normies
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>>138313281
anywhere basically, normies are everywhere. spend more time with your family eating dinners and watching stupid tv shows. just walk out of the room when cnn comes on the tv you might get triggered. bury your head in the sand and surrender all human dignity to the collective and prepare for assimilation.
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>>138312904
That's not redpilled kiddo.
>>138312429
The true answer is yes-ish. It depends on the quality of their red pill.
Some faggot can be "red pilled" on blacks and Jews then end up falling in love with a Jamaican woman and think he's "overcome the red pill" when really he just never actually studied the effects of racemixing on children and stuff, and the importance of culture and passing down tradition etc, he probably literally thought all non-whites were like X and found one that was Y and thought wow, red pill was a lie!
Women come on here and see shit that "red pills" them and then they get told about the (debunked) Flynn Effect and suddenly they are "blue pilled".
But if you aren't a fucking retard or a woman, and you use your brain and research the issues genuinely and confront every criticism and shit like a proper intellectual, it's very unlikely you will ever undo a red pill.
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>>138313983
Your politics don't matter, knowing the truth does, most people just become NatSoc when they learn the truth because that's how the movement started. Karl Marx redpilled me on the Jews btw, you can start off as left or right
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>>138314263
It seems like being redpilled has to do with race hatred, a hatred of culture mixing, of homosexuals and transgendered people, disliking current leftist/socialist trends, and a lot of pseudoscience. Generally a lot of disdain for no solid basis besides "it's different than what I perceive to be as normal, and my normal is defined by these 'educated' people."

That totally seems like an attack but I don't know how else to phrase it.

Is there a "-pill" for realizing that our capitalistic human society is generating all of the current havoc so that we fight each other over meaningless things like race and sexual preference while they profit from our underpaid labor and pull the strings from afar? Because I'm that.
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>>138312429
psilocybin will bluepill you with redpills.
redpill you with bluepills.

lsd can too, but mushrooms will do it harder.
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Bill burr, ever since he dated and more so married that fucking beartrap mouth, sassy nigress, he's reverted all his material to over acting ironic humor.
He openly insults mra, claims you actually can never hit women, white people have it great, disclaimers every single joke with "I'm poetically being ignorant".

Really sad, he used to be an honest guy but got pussy whipped.
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>>138314680
Probably*

FUCKO
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>>138312609
Take the breadpill, anon
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>>138312429
yes. with "help" they can.
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If youre miserable anon its quite simple to reverse, take inspiration from this quote.

A warrior in the garden is better than a gardener in a war.

Start growing your own food. Buy some rifles, build a cabinet for them. Better yourself day to day. The news is so depressing. Stop coming on here.
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>>138312429
No, once you see a particular thing for what it really is...turning it off is impossible. I tried for years.
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>>138312429
the only way is an overdose of blackpills
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I am pretty sure the right girl could bluepill me...
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I believe the only way is by OD'ing on redpills and not caring anymore
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>>138312429
pretty easy
you actually sort yourself out and stop being a shut in bitter nazi
successful people are tolerant and blue pilled most of the time
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>>138315041
Then the following is what:
>creating an easier pathway to citizenship
>tightening the punishments for not becoming a citizen
>raising the pay/benefits for the manual labor vacated by fewer immigrants
>funding all of these changes through tightening tax loopholes and raising taxes for the upper percentiles of wealthy people in the country

Basically, what is the realization that greed is the ultimate agitator, and that our capitalist society is totally fucked?
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>>138313983
We can view this from different angles.
Let's start with a normie who knows the facts about how much of a burden illegal immigrants are to the US, but supports them being here because of muh feelz. They are blue-pilled af.
Then there's the business owner who understands the burden on the country said immigrants are, but they are personally profiting greatly from the situation. Therefore, they support the leftist agenda but may be seen as a red-pilled scumbag.
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>>138312429
Yes, it happened one day when i realized i wanted to split my junk in four, then have it put inside of me, then not get fucked by any normal man, and have to dialate and shave the inside of my boipussy.
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>>138315381
See >>138315329

Basically I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of world issues (or at the very least, American issues) are caused by poverty, and poverty in America is caused by the super rich, who are supported by the right and by huge corporations.

A strongly regulated, Socialist, Democratic/Genocratic hybrid government and economy would sort out shitloads of problems. Your counter-argument will of course be moral hazard (the idea that, somehow, giving someone help will lead them to laziness), but the data we have from European countries trying similar programs basically says "fuck you" to the notion of moral hazard.

Also racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc. are all essentially baseless and stupid given how technologically and morally advanced the Human race has become.
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>>138314497
>and a lot of pseudoscience
Such as? Race and IQ are valid predictors for behavior in groups of individuals.

I recommend you check out Stefan Molyneux for some entry-level redpills. Don't worry he is half-Jewish so he's not some evil Nazi like me.

His most recent video, rather auspiciously, seems to be tailor made for one of your persuasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77MkMowiLxI

He also does some introductory philosophy from time to time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhPPUIZMuvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3OAzCGEz3c
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>>138312429

The Bluepill is based largely on emotion and ignorance, and an optimistic utopian view of human nature, equality etc.

The Redpill comes from knowing that everything we were told to maintain the Bluepill is a lie.

Blue--->Redpill is a one way street, short of a frontal lobotomy or something.
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>>138315862
Poverty is the most valid predictor, which is strongly associated with minorities in the US due to years of oppression, inherited poverty, a generally racist populace, and other factors.

If you can't tell, I've actually studied this a bit.
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this guy almost made it
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>>138315656
commie talk if ive ever seen one. let me give you some data from european countries trying similar programs. bulgaria at the end of ww2 in its communist revolution - officers and intellectuals are shot, the tsar is exiled, personal property is abolished. everyone in bulgaria will tell you how everything they had was stolen from them. everyone will tell you you couldnt leave your hometown. everyone will tell you you had to be a communist puppet to get education or a permit to leave town. everyone will tell you the national history archive was stolen and shipped to russia, where it was decided which part of it should be destroyed and which part should be doctored. skip to the 1960-1970. everyone will tell you how people didnt work - they literally found a job for everyone, but they didnt do the job - everyone was bragging how much they stole. gas, cement, wood, machine parts - anything you could get your hands on. everyone will tell you about the bread lines. everyone will tell you having oranges and bananas was a luxury. and multi-culti also died. the communists built ghettos for gypsies. in kazanlak you can still see the concrete walls of the gypsy quarter. the communists also started renaming the turks. forcefully. they started forbidding them being muslim and giving them bulgarian names. there were no homosexuals during communism - homosexuals were shot. there were no foreigners - foreigners could only go to party approved areas.
any questions?
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You can't go from redpill to bluepill. You can go from red to black or green or iron or something, but never blue.
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>>138315656
>poverty in America is caused by the super rich, who are supported by the right and by huge corporations
The 1% is 47% Jewish and the huge corporations all support the left culturally (and because they profit of the high-time preference economic spending of minorities).
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>>138312429
Search up mkultra, you can get hypnotized back to blue pilled.
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>>138316038
Then you'll know that the wealthiest blacks have a higher violent crime rate than the poorest whites.

>Poverty is the most valid predictor
Whoops! Did I catch you in a falsehood? Imagine moi shock!
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>>138316187
The one question being, why is the history of a third-world country that I didn't explicitly mention being used as an example, when there are plenty of first-world countries that prove my point?

Thank you for the uncited history lesson though.

>>138316282
Supporting culturally =/= supporting financially. Or paying taxes.

We're one of the lowest-tax countries on earth, and we still bitch about them.
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>>138314539
Psychs redpill you on whats happening behind the veil but simultaneously show you none of it matters. Basically taking a red/blue pill at once.
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here it is if you dont trust me. concrete walls for easier policing and so the people dont see the gypsies
https://www.google.bg/maps/@42.6166514,25.414321,3a,60y,210.45h,80.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFMQv-tawVOdNz3H6lKfMQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
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>>138316537
bulgaria's gdp was a first world country one at ww2.
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>>138316537
>implying taxation generates wealth
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>>138312429
If you were suddenly propelled into stardom/fame/fortune given some unlikely scenario - e.g., you win lottery, get e famous, misappropriate fapgook, etc.

New circle (jerk), new accoutrements, new and desirable lifestyle, new bacteria filled holes to pump with your unexceptional cock that are attached to women who make you cum hard, new debts, etc.

You'll go red pill again, because this won't last. But you can go blue for a stint. It's a delusion, though. Like a drug binge almost.
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>>138316530
Would love to see your source.

>>138316650
Oh shit I forgot it was 1945, phew, thanks.

>>138316705
Well if you take a penny from everyone and put it in a pile it doesn't magically fucking disappear.

I'm remembering now why I left.
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>>138316803
fucking commie. its like talking to a wall. doesnt matter what anyone would tell you or show you. you will praise the multi-culti prosperous communism that killed millions, oppressed minorities, shut down borders (even in towns), made everyone poor and installed dictators
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>>138316732
Goddammit, I basically have to leave now because of this fucking formatting bs.
kms
inb4kys
iWin
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>>138316901
Where did I say anything about communism?
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>>138316970
>Basically I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of world issues (or at the very least, American issues) are caused by poverty, and poverty in America is caused by the super rich, who are supported by the right and by huge corporations.
>A strongly regulated, Socialist, Democratic/Genocratic hybrid government and economy would sort out shitloads of problems. Your counter-argument will of course be moral hazard (the idea that, somehow, giving someone help will lead them to laziness), but the data we have from European countries trying similar programs basically says "fuck you" to the notion of moral hazard.
>Also racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc. are all essentially baseless and stupid given how technologically and morally advanced the Human race has become.
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>>138316803

Why do blacks commit 50% of the murders in the country, when there are more Hispanics and Whites living in poverty?
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>>138317039
I'm not seeing the word communism in there. Communism is total government control wherein everybody is treated as an equal and everyone receives exactly the same rights, goods, privileges, etc.

You could say it's a fine line, however it's a lot thicker than most people think.
>Regulation =/= total control

>>138317198
Maybe because black people have been systematically targeted and hated for years. Maybe because they were slaves before that. Maybe because you need to look at relative statistics instead of pure numbers.

Maybe you people just need to hate something.
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>>138317351
it doesnt matter if you go 10% socialism or 100% socialism. it is directly proportional to the amount of freedom, privacy, prosperity and wealth, and education, lawlessness, totalitarianism you want to have. you are a commie even if you dont want to call yourself one. your ideas lead to what i described here
>>138316187
>>138316594
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>>138317351
>Maybe because black people have been systematically targeted and hated for years. Maybe because they were slaves before that. Maybe because you need to look at relative statistics instead of pure numbers.
Please explain how black people are still living shitty lives when the Jews are doing very well for themselves.
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>>138317465
>Freedom
Maybe
>Privacy
No
>Prosperity
In a positive sense
>Wealth
Spread out more equitably
>Education
Increased
>Lawlessness
Decreased due to a reduction in poverty
>Totalitarianism
Not necessarily

You're looking at my rough outlines and filling in the blanks with negatives. I'm filling them in with observations, other guidelines, statistics, etc.

>>138317553
>Very well
>Literal Nazi marches
Unless you mean economically, which is also answered by their racial appearance. They're predominantly white in America, and suffer much less from racial bias than you think. Antisemitism is only a massive issue in niches.
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>>138316803
Source: Zaw and Darity (2016) Race, Wealth and Incarceration: Results from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth
I'd post a link but the system thinks it's spam.

I guess you're a Nazi now, right?
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>>138317351
>spew communist rhetoric
>I'm not a communist
Ok there Marx. What's with all the faggot commies lately who just deny being communist while spewing their bullshit anyways, do they think that we just dodge debate by calling them communist? Why don't they stop saying the same dumb bullshit that's been debunked 18,000 times and people will stop disregarding them the moment they open their mouth?
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>>138317700
youre filling them with blind optimism at best and propaganda if we want to be realistic. everyone in a former communist country will confirm what i am saying and will tell you to your face that your ideas are retarded and they bring suffering to people.
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>>138313431

Despair Pill
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>>138312609
Reflect on yourself.

Realize that you can do the most unthinkable atrocities, but also do unspeakable good.

If that fails, kys
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>>138313983

No, that's stupidity.
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>>138317351

So your argument is that black people commit astronomically more violent crime, mostly against each other, because white people "target" them?
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yeah its called when a dna test goes wrong
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>>138312429

No
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>>138318858
yeah. care to give me a list of redpilled norks?
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>>138317553
>please explain why slaves don't just chew through their chains and become billionaires when slaveowners are perfectly capable of being billionaires by being jews
wew
you apologists have nothing else to do huh
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>>138312429

>Is it possible for anyone to transition from being red-pilled to blue-pilled? If so, name some examples. What are the causes and symptoms to look out for?

Yes, pic related.

I don't follow him that closely since he became unfunny as bluepill but I believe it was because he got with a normie woman. This guy is part of the reason we have memes in the first place and now pic related was a real stance he took squabbling with some nobody who apparently could land hits on him because said nobody is redpilled while Maddox is not anymore.
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>>138317703
that's not evidence that blacks commit more crimes you idiot, it's evidence that it's easier to incarcerate blacks. Blacks in general recieve much harsher sentencing than any other group. That includes incarceration rates versus being let off with a fine or a warning.
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>>138319127
>jews weren't slaves before becoming slaveowners
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>>138319345

So the reason that black men (7% of the population) commit 50% of the murders is because white men are let off with a fine for murder?

Why are SJW's so bad at debate?
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>>138319518
Gang violence is unrelated to the crime statistic of 'the richest blacks commit more crime than the poorest whites' - which in and of itself is a tortured interpretation of that graph.
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>>138319518
well white women are let off with a fine for murder though
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>>138313130
your dad is dumb.
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>>138319673
>>138319673
no i dumb
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>>138319594

The argument is that crime is a function of poverty, which means poor whites should commit the same amount of crime as poor blacks, which is far from the case.

In fact poor whites commit less crime than rich blacks, as the statistics prove. You think muh racist judges is enough to explain the fact that the statistics show the exact opposite of what you're trying to argue?
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>>138319345
There is no other study correlating all three variables, race, income and crime/conviction rate. This is literally the only study. You are right that with this study by itself you can claim that there are external factors which account for the massive disparity between white and black conviction rates. However, when you take into account the racial crime rate (crime, not conviction) the FACT is that black males (6-7% of the population) commit 50% of all violent crime. This fact support the earlier study's conclusion.
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I worked part time at a shop and during break i was on /pol/ on my phone and a poo said "shut down mate THEY(emphasis) wont be happy if your on that here". Spoke to him and asked him if he goes on 4chan and he said he used to but now only goes once a week on some niche boards that I can't remember (/a/ and something else).

He said he doesn't vote so I'm guessing he's bluepilled.
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>>138312429
just go out and meet a shitton of people
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the vaginal jew is how one becomes bluepilled, you will placate yourself being with a girl and then we lose
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>>138319945
You say that as if it means something, but look at that graph. It may be 'more' but the numbers are practically the same. And every single group - except whites - show the poverty-incarceration trend. The whites, here, are the outlier. And speaking as someone who was a poor white myself, do you have any idea how hard it is to send a young white punk to jail? The courts are ridiculously easy on them compared to other groups. Especially when they're poor. A judge looks at a poor white kid, gives them a warning and lets them off. A judge sees a black kid, and it hardly matters if they're rich. They're going to jail.

Let alone the fact that cops are far more likely to arrest blacks than whites, which further skews the data.

And that's what that data was following - kids, more than anything else.
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>>138316594
Nice commieblocks too.
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>>138320987
>young men aged 20-28 (in 1985)
>kids

Holy shit how disingenuous are you? Did you even read the abstract of the study?
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>>138312429
For example, the redpill upon the financial system, and the lies we were told about the wars we waged.

The first time i heard about it, i had a very strong urge to do something, and got almost paranoid, because my world shifted so drastically.

After a while, while still acknowledging those facts to be true, the emotions vanished, and you somewhat become lethargic about this issue. This is actually really sad and depressing. Its like being neo but then spending his whole day at the bar in the Nebucadnezar.
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>>138319345
They have poor impulse control, anon. That's all.
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>>138312429
the only way to go back is to fill yourself with hate
its the reason blue pill retards project "dont let hate win" they are blue pilled because they are filled with hate
red pill fills you with anger then it calms you
blue pill fills you with hate then it consumes you
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It's possible to become more ignorant because information propagates over time and you just have to stop taking it in. You can try doing lots of drugs for some sudden memory loss but unlikely to work for more than just filtering future information. Best of luck to you, sufferer!
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