Are all normies this stupid?

Go ahead and cite any successful national socialist countries. Prove him wrong, smart guy.

>>138310178
North Korea is true NatSoc

>>138310388
Germany was the only country to be national socialist.

National socialism was inherently german and had clear cultural roots, it's not like communism or fascism

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>>138310178
Whites run venezuela

>>138310534
Dumb wog

>>138310178
>Muh appeal argument

Sorry, but real communism has never been tested before

Venezuela is just a social capitalist nation that failed due to outside pressure forcing it's industry to collapse, which means capitalism killed yet another could be nation with it's evil imperialistic tendencies

>>138310178
If you have to ask the answer is yes.

>>138310178
Venezuela is an attempt at Marxist democratic socialism, rather than German-style national socialism. Big difference. Natsoc is garbage though, so he's right about that.

>>138310178
>Venezuela
>natsoc
Let's play the commie denial game

>>138310890
so? it was still an ATTEMPT at real communism
and since this is real life, attempts count MORE than the idea of what real communism is that has only existed in your head

>>138310890
>bait
Venezuelas of only industry was oil
>price drops
Well I guess It's those evil capitalists fault.

It's not your meme. Every moron in the world uses this argument, no matter the side.

>You don't think we should sacrifice our slaves to Quetzalcoatl? Well gtfo then, that's what we do here, go to El Dorado if you don't like it.

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>>138310388
Germany, first and only time tried.

Got Germany out of a Zimbabwe level crisis, hyperinflation greater than any euro country has ever seen, 33% unemployment.

Hitler took that shithole and turned it into a powerhouse that was capable of challenging the entire world.

Neck yourself shill.

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Your meme fails because it's a failure.

They don't think martin luthar king be national socialist, but it do

>>138310178
normies will always amaze you with their ability to be stupid OP. their mental gymnastics and willful ignorance is the most powerful force on the planet

>>138310178
"Historically ww2 Nazis were a very left leaning party"

No. No they weren't. That's a lie perpetuated by revisionists on the right that only shows the historical ignorance of the people who spout it as though the word "socialist" in the name is some kind of checkmate move. Read the actual history. The DAP (later NSDAP) was founded by ultra-nationalists from across the left-right spectrum, but it strongly opposed to the left-wing SPD and KPD from the start, and the party purged the remaining left-wingers in the party like Gregor Strasser in 1928. Anti-Marxist policies took centre-stage during the '30s, and Hitler's NSDAP after the Night of the Long Knives in 1934 was about as far-right as it's possible for a party to be.


It's just the party line of the Republicans right now. Most Lemmings are running with the Republicans because they are in charge right now.

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>>138312293
>normies
I prefer "Lemmings"
Normie sounds like something a hermit would say.

>>138310178
This country is too big and complicated for any form of socialism to work here. The corporations will try to create a se facto socialist system where they're in charge, but they will have to get progressively more totalitarian, to the point of using mercenaries against the public, until the public just gives up trying and everyone is suicidal and cannot be convinced to do any work anymore.

>>138312372
Privatization started in National Socialist Germany.
It was not marxist socialism.

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>>138312372
>No. No they weren't.
yes, they were. you're just too attached to le based swastika optics to accept the truth.

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>>138313417
>Pinochet opposing Nazis
Oh the Irony.

>>138312372
Frig off shill. Hitler wanted to know to know how democrats segregated certain people so well

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>>138314076
What? Am I hurting your retarded Republican party line of "hurr National Socialism is Communism! Checkmate!" We shut down the Democrats, now we just need to work on your hardheaded Conservatives.

>>138312372
Have you read the 25 Points of the NSDAP? Tell me, does the "abolition of unearned income" sound like a Right wing or a Left wing goal?
How about "a division of profits of all heavy industries"?
State-funded higher education?
Expansion of welfare?

The Nazis were opposed to literal Communists, but they've got more in common with Bernie Sanders than with Trump.

>>138312136
>3rd smartest
>greatest achievements and culture
Really activated those almonds

>>138314506
The German National Socialists formed a policy to work with their nation at that current state. As modern National Socialists we need to have a system that works best for our nation. That system would be capitalism. If it makes you feel better we can call ourselves Nationalist Capitalists.

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>>138310890
First off, where the fuck is my minarchist flag secondly fuck off with your not real communism you gr8 masterb8er

>>138314798
Arguing with about what natsoc is could be compared to pulling teeth.

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>>138312136
I am not even a ethno faggot but even I know Euros and EuroAmericans are at least 2nd

>Captcha: Helicopter

>>138315339
*arguing with r donald

>>138315411
>>138314730

>Jews
>Asians
>Whites

Those are the IQ statistics that you so preciously cling to.

>>138315339
It's hard right socially but is very malleable economically. Really it's the choose what economic system is best for your people kind of thing. If you're an ant colony, go be a communist. If you're a group of pirates, go be Ancaps.

>>138312372
Yes they were, the only reason there was a purge of marxist shits was because Hitler viewed their ideas for Socialism as inherently wrong. In other words to Hitler your socialism and communism weren't "real"

>>138313633
Please tell us how Pincochet was an advocate for ethnic cleansing and an ethno nationalist state with adherence to the nationalization of industries and companies? Oh wait you can't because he did the exact opposite and opened up the markets didn't kill people who weren't Chilean and he didn't propose a Chilean only state.

Any argument that Pinochet was a Nazi is moot. "Oh no he had an ex Nazi as an advisor" so that doesn't mean he was a fucking Nazi lover.

God you marxists are so dumb

>>138314798
>National Capitalism
Hahahaha. What you want is an illiberal government that supports White people and exiles or kills people of color. Are you expecting to never allow in nonwhite traders or diplomats? The German Final Solution needed a massive totalitarian government and you will too. Identitarians are authoritarian by default.

>>138312372
to be fair during the knight of the long knives the nahhhhttziiiiss also killed a few conservatives (prussians). Most of the killing was focused on the leadership of the unruly brownshirts who were shit cunts. Also just because some "socialists" or "fascists" are anti-marx does not make them anti-left. You can have pro market pro property leftists .

>>138315787
>God you marxists are so dumb
>marxists
I don't think you understand that word
>>138315793
Traders and diplomats don't make the our native population drop 40%. I don't see how you don't understand this.

>>138314798
Holy Shifting Goalposts, Batman!
If you're not arguing for National Socialism, then what ARE you arguing for?

>>138316021
Marxism, followers of the teachings of Karl Marx including the variations of Communism such as Leninism and Stalinism as well as Socialism and Democratic Socialism (even National Socialism)

>>138316068
National Socialism doesn't want to be Socialism (as strange as that sounds) it is really just a social position. Trying to measure economic policy and social policy on the same test will always fail. National Socialism will always be social policy with a very malleable economic policy.
>>138316140
Which totally explains why Communists were executed.

>>138316503
Please read >>138315537
It's not surprising at all, Hitler's whole thing was that they were too Jewish and essentially not correct for being so so he created his own form of socialism, which is why they left the blood name in their. They still went to advocating and implementing a system to nationalize the inudstries/companies in Germany w/ very few exceptions (meant to work internationally) and he also was an advocate for the redistribution of wealth. I mean aside from the ethno state part of it there really isn't that much difference between it and regular socialism

>>138315489
>white countries flooded with shit tier races
>iq avg immensely drops
Who would of thought. Now let's say you were right in the iq part. How come 90% of inventions are from Europe? How it's been so lop sided?

>>138310178

That retard doesn't even understand what national socialism is. It has only been tried once and it turned one of the poorest countries in Europe into one of the most prosperous. It took the combined might of the world and russians basically throwing themselves into machine guns until they ran out of bullets to stop them.

National socialism has never failed organically, only through outside intervention and war

>>138316759
>90% of inventions are from Europe?
Where did you get that statistic?

>>138316763
>Germany
>one of the poorest countries in Europe
Holy fuck why is average American here so retarded.

>>138316716
But this isn't Germany. I said it is very malleable and is meant to fit into the society in which it is implemented. We slap some Capitalistic economic policies onto it and we are good to go.

>>138316927
The only way for it to work is for the markets to be completely free and open.

>>138316716
>>138316927
Would a Hoppes society make you happy?
BTW You Ancaps are so much more respectable and easy to talk to than Communists are.

>>138310178
Didn't you know? USSR and China and Cuba and Kampucchia are all NatSoc.
Communism never was tried. Whenever someone tries communism, he just makes one more NatSoc so it doesn't count.

>>138317059
As long as we don't accept mass third world immigration that would irreparably destroy our demographics I'm fine with free markets. Importing cheap labor here is the same mistake Southerners made when they thought slavery was a good idea. As long as you don't play with loaded guns like that I'm fine.

>>138311962
Hardly just tried in Germany. Spain, Italy, Portugal

>>138317080
I'd be down for the physical removal of those who want to get rid of property and property rights as well as a free market w/ only a few key regulations in place (like few, ridiculously few). As for the ethno nationalism I'd really only be in favor for that for European countries as they are European. The US and Canada not so much, especially because of immigration being a key factor in our history

I try to be but it's 5 am where I am so I can't tell if I am coming off that way or not lol Commies are always aggressive jackasses I've had maybe 3 conversations in my whole life with commies that actually went well w/ respect.

>>138317150
No one trusts your Red Lies. Sadly there are people stupid enough to believe you though.

Normies are really, really fucking retarded. That's why they're so easily manipulated by the media, trends, and social engineering. Imagine how dumb the average person is and realize half the people are dumber than that.

>>138311962
So what did Italy try?
How about Portugal?

>>138317277
Yeah that's one of the things I don't agree about w/ some free marketers, I'd rather promote popping out babies at higher rates then taking it low skilled and cheap laborers

>>138316503

Commie useful idiots have to be dealt with no matter what type of authoritarian regime comes to power. Theyre so brainwashed they wont stop trying to overthrow the government. Useful for destabilization but once their job is done theyre taken out behind the woodshed. Even marxist governments execute their useful idiots once their purpose is done. Russia, Nicaragua, cuba, china, Vietnam to name a few that did it

Yuri Bezmenov explains this very well. It's literally part of the plan to kill them because if they're not killed then they become disillusioned when they realize they were lied to and they become enemies of the new regime.

>All those leftist actors and movie stars and activists with their supposedly beautiful ideas of equality and social justice think that they will be the ones in power. That will never happen. They will never come to power, and when they realize this they get offe ded and disillusioned. They are only useful for the destabilization process. Instead, once their job is done they will simply be lined up against the wall and shot

-Ex KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov


People like antifa dont realize that if they got what theyre pushing for they wont have some perfect utopia. They'll be one of the first groups lined up and shot. The only way they survive is to lose

>>138310394
This. Juche is Nat-Soc.

>>138317150
Communism is a blind idealistic utopia that could only happen if everyone in the world had a mental illness worse than autism

>>138317336
Well I'm a farmer and strongly support property rights and gun rights. Having worked my life to buy these acres, I would very willingly die to protect my property. You have no issue with me on this.
>>138317408
I like you. If more Libertarians were like you, you'd have a better name.

>>138310178
If you punch me after I hit you and I tell everyone you punched my small, 3 legged cat.

That it's a lie is irreverent, only what people believe matters.

In a propaganda war people don't mind lying if it furthers their agenda, it's like you're a baby and think people have to be honest.

>>138317576
Yeah the general you don't fuck w/ me I don't fuck w/ you type of stuff.

My ideal type of govt though would be a mix of our initial US govt and Liberland. Taxation is voluntary and you get to choose where your "taxes" go to. Honestly if most services were voluntary based, the NAP was a given and property rights were inalienable that'd generally be a good basis for a nation.

>>138310178
National socialism is *gasp* socialism though, at least if we're talking NSDAP.

>>138317431
Yuri Bezmenov was not a KGB officer. He was a KGB informant.
Yuri Bezmenov literally knew nothing about KGB operations and all his theories were his imagination. He simply sold a cool story.
Mitrokhin, a chief archivist of First Main Directorate (foreign intelligence of KGB) literally smuggled tons of KGB archives to England. There's a book based on this, The Sword and The Shield. Nowhere did he encounter subversion operation of that scale.

>>138317405
>Being this stupid
It's called Fascism

>>138317792
Well we've hit a good stopping point. It's been fun. Good night.

>>138310178
They're right you know

Nazism is leftism, socialist cancer

>>138317831
>Tons not all

Doesn't disprove Bezmenov and if anything we're seeing today everything Bezmenov predicted is coming true. Frankly I blame the Frankfurt institute and general Marxist shit as well as dumb ass useful idiots who think collectively instead of as individuals

>>138318030
All. He was an archivist. Everything reached him.
If you can blame anyone you should blame New Left, which had nothing to do with Soviets or KGB, or Frankfurt School. Frankfurt School is ironically overlapping on many points with average /pol/tard, you just never bothered to read them.
Sorry, cultural trends are far more complex and aren't explained by conspiracy theories.

>>138317405
>>138317839
Portugal wasn't ever fascist, it was a military dictatorship like many others. Salazar was an economist appointed by the government.