Where are my libertarians?

Getting cucked by their open borders bullshit

>>138289294
The Libertarian Party is controlled opposition. There are actually very few libertarians that want open borders.

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>>138289294
No faggot, even AnCaps are not for open borders, that's all open society (Soros) propaganda.

On reddit like the moderates they are.
Remember to sage.

>>138289111
Right here bruv
>>138289294
I don't know a single libertarian in my former college libertarian organization that wasn't very seriously against open borders.

>>138289832
The libertarians = open borders meme needs to end, it's only purpose is to divide the right

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>>138290025
forgot pic

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>>138289957
>Moderate
Get your indecisive "third position" bullshit out of here.

>>138290219
You do realize libertarians are literally more against socialism than the "far right," right?

Nazis were extremely collectivist, and neocons want stronger military. The far economic right is not in between these groups on any axis.

>>138289111
At Ifunny fag.

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>>138290219
Nice pic, ripe full of fallacies. We aren't indecisive at all. We can at least all agree on self defense laws, no two Libertarians have the same NAP.
Do children have their own?
Animals?
Communists?
Libertarians are not moral and can't agree on this shit. 1776 won't happen again because you guys are pussies and have been pussies for 200 years. You gave so much ground that you don't even represent what this country was founded for anymore. Fuck you and your irrelevant movement.

>>138290579
You do know that you're talking to a Libertarian, right? Did you misunderstand my post?

I want to call myself Libertarian because I can identify with the ideal libertarian world. But I know it doesn't exist and government needs to be established.

Is there a thing where we take the current American system, but just make it lean in a more libertarian angle?

>>138291000
Libertarians can't read, it's easy for him to do that.

>>138291000
I guess I did. What exactly are you criticizing here?

>>138291391
Just indecisive people in general?

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What did you put down, fellow libertarians?

>>138290907
You're retarded, "aggression" for the purpose of the NAP is defined as the initiation of force against a person or their property. There is a very strict definition of aggression. Also you're a dipshit fag who larps like it's 1942 and doesn't realize subsidizing the breeding your lowest class has dysgenic effects to which the nsdap had to then begin sterilizing all the retards and degenerates they created. You're a complete moron but you'll never see why.

We'll save the white race without you larping basement niggers.

>>138291636
I concede, the test isn't great.

I put Strongly disagree.

>>138291391
"Third position" Nazi retard economics basically a more socialist keynesian corporate system.

>>138291989
Okay, I get what you meant.

>>138291636
I strongly agree, the white race has without a doubt been more productive than most races.

>>138291852
Lol, why? Are you brown?

right here

>>138291636
>taking the test
That question alone should make the test an instant drop for you. Find out what you are on your own.

NO OPEN BORDERS, PHYSICAL REMOVAL, START UP THE ROTORS

>>138292355
Lol, u gay if you're not a far right libertarian.

>>138291810
>initiation of force
So communists can build an army and you can't do anything about it unless they attack you? Truly sounds like a good system. I'll ignore the name calling and knee jerk reactions you get from anyone criticizing your shitty ideology. There weren't all that many "degenerates" and "retards" in Nazi Germany. The population did increase, but quality of life, morals, and other good shit also did with it.

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>>138292416
Fuck yes.

>>138292493
Those are the left wing libertarians like Gary Johnson, fuck them. They are closet commies that deserve nothing but being thrown off an helicopter.

>>138292493
I'm sorry I should have included coercion, basically threat. If someone points a gun at you, you don't have to wait for them to pull the trigger. Same goes for someone building an army at your door. Faggot.

>>138292452
damn never thought about it like that

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>>138292493
Also being a communist also violates the NAP

>>138289832
Open borders mean shit anyways if the government isn't handing out free gibsmedat and welfare checks, literally the only reason why """"""""""refugees"""""""" flock to France,UK, Germany, Sweden.

Once they have to work to eat, all the retards will leave.

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>>138289111
Why is the purple square the only fun square?

Lib right checking in

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>>138292697
What's the point of "muh freedom" if you end up thought policing worse than you think we do?
>>138292738
So banks can just kill people if they are "threatening" their profits? Your system just leads us into what we have now.
>>138292897
I'll say again: what's the point of "muh freedom" if you end up thought policing worse than you think we do?

>>138292493
> The population did increase, but quality of life, morals, and other good shit also did with it.

Yeah, """"good morals""""" determined by who? Some autistic imposer with his morality police?

End the welfare shit, naturally idiots, retards, and "degenerates" will die off, simple.

>>138293167
Because it's not about "muh freedom" you dipshit. It's about creating a proper hierarchy based on contracts and merit.

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Paleolibertarian here
We're the best
Libertarianism is THE American ideology.

>>138292897
this

I would consider myself a libertarian/constitutionalist and I'm not for open boarders negro go home!!

>>138293167
>Threatening their profits
No, that's not what threat is you brainlet. The threat of violence. You're not threatening someone by not using their service. Maybe read a book or something you illiterate fuck.

>>138293370
u r bigot

>>138293167
It isn't really only about freedom, it's more about property rights and free market, which leads to freedom, yet not all commies should be physically removed, only the violent ones who threaten to impose their system. But I still understand what you are trying to say, it's just that we are not like the hippies, at least the right wing libertarians.

>>138293167
This is why I am not a full anarchist, I am a minarchist, thing is someone will always strive to take power and impose their power over others, so we need to support a state that will respect our natural individual rights, kill commies and lobbyists.

>>138293337
This, Paleolibertarian is the master race.

>>138293167
we either have a holy monarchy or mincarchist society.

>create a monopoly and police force and a circle jerk for rich lobbyists and jews aka united states

you mean fascist italy?

>>138293561
could someone explain this to me? is this futa?

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>>138293638
>Muh peaceful commies
No such thing. Remove them all.

>>138293638
>not all commies should be physically removed
>implying these rats won't just take whatever chance they got to fuck you over
If someone points a gun at your head, are you going to wait until they shoot to get rid of them?

>>138293902
>>138293900
But there isn't enough helicopter fuel in this planet to remove them all, think about it

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>>138294110
Use a good ol' bat and/or shotgun

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Im so fucking sick of everything. Also dox my pretend enemies. I'm so delusional at this point i think it will do any good.

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>>138294351
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4bd_1502558125

I was a libertarian like you once. JOIN THE DARK SIDE.

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>>138294515
fu

>>138294478
Lol, you were probably an open borders fag or a minarchist you cuck. You don't know shit.

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>>138293295
>Yeah, """"good morals""""" determined by who?
The culture and history of the country? So what decent people in a white community would think they would be.
>>138293332
>It's about creating a proper hierarchy based on contracts and merit.
That doesn't work if people abuse the system. Jews get jobs because Jews help other Jews at the cost of everyone else.
>>138293562
>No, that's not what threat is you brainlet. You're not threatening someone by not using their service. Maybe read a book or something you illiterate fuck.
And how exacly are you going to stop Mr. Goldberg from using that as an excuse?
>>138293638
You still have the problem that the NAP is so poorly defined that bad things can happen. Do animals, children, etc. have their own NAP? How will you then deal with that?
Look, man, you guys still can't agree on what and what isn't covered by it.
>>138293900
>>138293902
I don't even have to do the dividing part of divide and conquer if I were a Jew because you already aren't even on the same page.
>>138293717
In what way did Fascist Italy blatantly bow to the kikes?
>>138293659
That still doesn't work out well. This country started off minarchist, then when the Articles of Confederation failed, they tried Libertarianism, which was then subverted into what we have now. I don't disagree with free market policy for the most part, but something has to enforce it and make sure it's not abused. That's what fascism is for. We are collectivist for the sole reason that groups are stronger than individuals.

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>>138289111
geolibertarian reporting in

>>138294750
>Jews don't play nice
Duh, so don't play nice with them. Idiot. You still have to protect yourself. Carry a big stick. Create a NatSoc community and use nepotism for your people. Uncompetitive socialist crybaby.

>>138294906
>Left Libertarian fag reporting in
Rents due bitch. Pay up.

>>138294750
>So what decent people in a white community would think they would be
Decent people in a white community would likely have varying opinions regarding good morals. Morality isn't something you can objectively define, which is why most people abide by a "live and let live" policy.

>>138295112
hey there ancap brah imma just go ahead and harvest in the entire atmosphere because my air pumps and storage tanks are on my property.

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>>138295043
>Duh, so don't play nice with them. Idiot.
Other Jews will play nice with them, and then we're right back to how we started, "idiot".
Individuals, no matter what they say, can't take on a group. That's why Libertarians haven't had 1776 again. That's why we aren't hunters and gatherers anymore. A group is better than being alone, even if you have to sacrifice time to make the group better. Libertarians sure like to name call and argue like children, don't they?
>>138295351
It was fairly consistent in Nazi Germany and in the past in western countries. The "morals aren't clearly defined" shit is fairly new. No drugs besides tobacco and alcohol, don't steal, work hard, fight injustice, etc. It's not hard, dude.

>>138295630
I hope that works out for you.

>>138294750
we all know mussolini was anti-racist and secretly liked jews.

besides, not bowing to jews doesn't mean italy wasn't just like that pic you posted. replace jews with "rich businessmen" and you get the same thing. fascist italy. america is more FASCIST today than it is communist. there's a very thin line between fascism and communism, and the united states establishment politicians, oligarchs and media are abusing the fascist nature of the U.S to create a communist dictatorship. mark my words. it's why we need to emphasize PRIVATE PROPERTY so that we as individuals know the fruits of our labor belong to US and not any collective.

the USA became a fascist jewy nation in 1913 because of the federal reserve act and the 16th amendment being passed which are both unconstitutional and should have never been allowed. we need to focus on that and abolish those cancers. we wouldn't have been involved at all in WWI or WWII if it wasn't for the federal reserve. no WW, no cold war. no vietnam, no commie civil rights sneaking to undermine private property, and no hippies and commies protesting war (that they secretly want) no FDR commie policies because no great depression. no LBJ commie great society

you see where i'm going with this

>>138295864
>Individuals wont beat a group
So form a fucking group. It's not like a magic NAP God prevents you from working together with other white people with the same interests. You must not understand Libertarianism outside of memes. I'm going to bed, I can't handle your facile interpretations anymore.

>>138295864
Didn't the Nazis practice eugenics? Didn't they silence and oftentimes kill dissenters who spoke out against what they thought to be immoral? The truth is that many people in Nazi Germany were likely forced to abide by morals that they didn't necessarily agree with. The morals were set by the few, not the many.

>>138296018
>there's a very thin line between fascism and communism
There's very big one, actually. Fascists let people have private property and wouldn't stand for the usury and shit the banks have done. Libertarians let this shit pass, by the way. America is not fascist at all.
>>138296215
>I literally just can't
That's right, fuck off. People won't unite if there isn't a clear threat. If Jews subtlety take over everything, you won't do shit as long as they APPEAR to play by the rules.
>>138296284
>Didn't the Nazis practice eugenics? Didn't they silence and oftentimes kill dissenters who spoke out against what they thought to be immoral?
Yeah, they put them in prison. Literally no one cared because they were right and the quality of life showed that. The only people that cared were mainly just Jews who wanted to subvert morality. Morality is a concept because most people have a good idea of what and what isn't moral. Nothing wrong with Eugenics by the way.

>>138293756
It looks like futaxmale

>>138289111
I FUCKING LOVE FREEDOM

>>138296749
>Literally no one cared
I'm sure they cared when suddenly they found that they were the ones in the gas chamber. You're naively assuming that because Nazi Germany looked like sunshine and rainbows from the outside it means that they didn't constantly turn on their own citizens and create a culture of fear and walking on eggshells.

All it takes is one little thing for you to disagree with, and bam, off to the slammer you go. Are you so cucked that you'll still be loyal to the government when it starts actively working against your own interests? Or are you just foolishly assuming that it won't?

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>>138297296
>I'm sure they cared when suddenly they found that they were the ones in the gas chamber.
Didn't happen. Both gassings and people unknowingly ending up in camps. They had a legitimate reason for being in there. It's not much different than the helicopter meme you niggers spout, it's just that we actually imprisoned them and shit.

>>138294906
How do you say that
Is it geo like in geoduck
or is it geo like in george
or is it geo like in Geo

>>138295864
This entire thing is a massive strawman.

>They don't care about culture
Of course we do, we just recognize the difference between state and nation, which is something fascists have always gotten backwards.

>No concern for other people, only profit

Where does this even come from? Do you volunteer, pal?

>Waaah a libertarian called me statist!!
Probably because you're advocating for increased state power to solve a nonexistent problem.

>They don't define their words and they just scream NAP

Natural law: laws, rules, and guidelines for human behavior that can be rationally understood and determined by observing human behavior.

Non-aggression principle: the normative principle that no individual should violate the private property rights fo any other person.

>I cannot agree with anyone who thinks that strong government is a bad thing

Suck your bottle and let your nanny state change and burp you.

Fuck off.

>>138297640
So you're saying that the Nazis didn't turn on their own? Does the Night of Long Knives ring a bell?

Also, you didn't answer my previous question. What do you do when muh all-knowing gubmint implements a policy you don't like?

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>>138294906
Yarrrrr!

>>138296749
dude it's a FINEEE line and you are subconsciously admitting it's a fine line. fascism "let" people have private property. so who's in charge? me or someone else who lets me?

literally the same fuckin practicality as communism

and america is increasing it's fascism little by little. which is also a thin line away from being communist. if hillary would have taken over, (yes taken over) the US would have been a fascist dictatorship, hillary's biggest feat would be very strict gun control. then bernie sanders or some other commie would win the next election and then BOOM...comrade bernie and his congress say you have to give your top floor to jerome and bonquisha because their great great grandparents owned sla...i mean were slaves ;) and now antifa is the bernie police force. and the 2nd amendment is obsolete.

you fucking fag, hitler took all guns away from germans

>>138298174
excuse my "you fucking fag", it's mostly banter

>>138298023
>Of course we do, we just recognize the difference between state and nation, which is something fascists have always gotten backwards.
No, the difference is that while we respect the concept of private property, you take it too far and worship the concept.
>Where does this even come from? Do you volunteer, pal?
It comes from the fact that you trust others to not abuse markets and create problems.
>Probably because you're advocating for increased state power to solve a nonexistent problem.
>Jews
>nonexistent problem
>Natural law: laws, rules, and guidelines for human behavior that can be rationally understood and determined by observing human behavior.
Which you don't, humans naturally group together which is why your system will fail.
>Non-aggression principle: the normative principle that no individual should violate the private property rights fo any other person.
So you let communists build an army? Cool.
>Suck your bottle and let your nanny state change and burp you.
Fallacy.
>>138298035
>Does the Night of Long Knives ring a bell?
Yeah, that time they destroyed the part of the party that wanted Communism lite? Again, we did exactly as we said. Communists are not tolerated.
>me or someone else who lets me?
You until you do something stupid. Kind of like if you were to break the NAP in your society.
>hitler took all guns away from germans
kek, he only took them from the Jews. Gun ownership increased under Hitler, pick up a book.
Fascism and Communism are very very different. Communism's no government, everyone will work for everyone else shit is the same thing you push. AnCap and Hyper capitalism in general lead to Communists popping up.

>>138298174
Forgot to do you for the last part
>me or someone else who lets me?
You until you do something stupid. Kind of like if you were to break the NAP in your society.
>hitler took all guns away from germans
kek, he only took them from the Jews. Gun ownership increased under Hitler, pick up a book.
Fascism and Communism are very very different. Communism's no government, everyone will work for everyone else shit is the same thing you push. AnCap and Hyper capitalism in general lead to Communists popping up.

>>138299164
>No, the difference is that while we respect the concept of private property, you take it too far and worship the concept.
What does that even mean, worship private property?
>It comes from the fact that you trust others to not abuse markets and create problems.
We don't not "trust" people not to abuse markets, we just understand that it's nowhere near as bad as socialists make it out to be, and that we can solve problems without forceful intervention.
>Jews
>nonexistent problem
You can collectively discriminate against Jews using private property rights in a perfect Nazi Leave-it-to-Beaver style white community.
>Which you don't, humans naturally group together which is why your system will fail.
Which we don't what?
>So you let communists build an army? Cool.
Communists don't have private property rights. They denounce their rights and say they don't have them, so we have no reason to acknowledge their rights.

>>138299164
>>138299234
Still conveniently dodging my question. I'll repeat it again: would you remain steadfast in your beliefs if one day your precious government unexpectedly came after you? "It won't happen" isn't an argument.

>>138299234
>until you do something stupid
yea but "stupid" as defined by government? you don't see potential for abuse in that but you see potential for abuse in private property rights?

ok, so he took from people he didn't like. just like what hillary and bernie wants.

communism is not VERY different from fascism. fascism is government controlling society. communism is... government controlling society. you say communism is no government, but communism can only be implemented by a government or else it would never exist. socialism (like fascism) is government taking care of society. communism is peak socialism

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>>138290907
>Fuck you and your irrelevant movement.
>rocking the flag of a failed aspergerman ethnostate from 80 years ago

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>>138299591
>What does that even mean, worship private property?
It is what you value over anything else.
>We don't not "trust" people not to abuse markets, we just understand that it's nowhere near as bad as socialists make it out to be, and that we can solve problems without forceful intervention.
You do trust them. There aren't antitrust laws, are there?
>You can collectively discriminate against Jews using private property rights in a perfect Nazi Leave-it-to-Beaver style white community.
Or one person could start dealing with them. Even a perfect society has it's bad apples, which is why a consistent state is there.
>Which we don't what?
Understand human nature and behavior.
>Communists don't have private property rights. They denounce their rights and say they don't have them, so we have no reason to acknowledge their rights.
They want to make a world where that is so, people can be hypocrite, crazy am I right?
>>138299652
>It's not an argument because I say so
It won't happen.
>>138300134
As opposed to stupid defined by some guy who shoots you.
>communism is not VERY different from fascism
Yes it is. We believe in property rights, mostly free market, etc.
We believe in money.
We believe in working for what you keep.
The only thing fascism has in common with Communism is the government thing, which communists don't even want. They want to be stateless, exactly like you guys.

>>138300560
>It won't happen.

Ah yes, because the government is totally infallible. Remember how well prohibition laws went in the US? Except in a fascist dictatorship the government executes total control and there would be nothing stopping them from repealing those laws. Civil unrest would ensure, and because you still have your guns, the government would be faced with the threat of a coup... which means they'll have to revoke people's gun rights to maintain order. See where this is going?

>>138301183
enforcing, not repealing

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>>138301183
>Ah yes, because the government is totally infallible.
Not what I was arguing. Just saying that there would no reason for a fascist/NatSoc gov to go after most people.
>Remember how well prohibition laws went in the US?
Why ban alcohol? It's been a part of Western civilization for forever. The worst thing that would interrupt most people is banning porn, and even then other circumstances would make people not care, for instance, making women traditional and non-degenerate. Germans didn't revolt because there wasn't porn, dude.

>>138289111
I dont believe anyone is libertarian until they use their second amendment against mods

>>138300560
commies don't really want to be stateless. they want everyone to be economically equal. they only want to be stateless in that everyone is equal so a state is unnecessary.
>the government thing
which is everything. now you're getting it. a FINE LINE. all it takes is government to enforce something else but guess what, you already gave them the power. gg you commie now. don't tear down the berlin wall

>>138301592
The prohibition thing was just an example of how the government can betray the people, which would be extremely dangerous in a scenario in which the government executes total control over the people.

>Germans didn't revolt because there wasn't porn, dude.
Germans weren't indoctrinated by decades of normalized pornography, dude. How do you think people are gonna react when something that's become such an unfortunate staple in western society suddenly disappears? Furthermore, how would you go about making women into tradwives without causing massive civil uproar among the current population of whites? This all sounds like the groundwork for some kind of Utopian setting that we're light years away from.

>>138301906
>which is everything
No it isn't. There can be good and bad, big and small governments. They are all different.
>>138302144
>How do you think people are gonna react when something that's become such an unfortunate staple in western society suddenly disappears?
Nothing because people are demoralized right now. Public knowledge would increase under the NatSoc education system because Marxism would be out of schools.
>Furthermore, how would you go about making women into tradwives without causing massive civil uproar among the current population of whites?
It all starts with the next generation of educated people. We'll just have to do with putting those who refuse to learn into camps. Population decline isn't inherently bad.
>This all sounds like the groundwork for some kind of Utopian setting that we're light years away from.
Not really. Hitler doing it is proof that it can be done again. Hopefully outside circumstances won't force a war to happen this time around.

>>138302862
all fascist movements (including nazism) gave absolute power to government/military. nothing went unless government allowed it. what do you mean big and small government.

>>138302862
only small government fascist government example i can think of was cuba during the 50s. and it existed to keep commies out of power. but to say that that is better than minimal state free market and free society? the cold rule of batista is what led to a communist uprising in cuba.

>>138302862
>putting those who refuse to learn into camps
Are you expecting to be able to do this without facing vehement opposition? How are you even going to reach the point where you're an influential enough group to pull something like this off?

>>138303087
>all fascist movements (including nazism) gave absolute power to government/military. nothing went unless government allowed it. what do you mean big and small government.
They let the government have the final say, but the gov let the citizens have guns. By big and small and good and bad I mean that there are different kinds of government, and that big government is not inherently bad just like small government is not inherently good.
>>138303398
>How are you even going to reach the point where you're an influential enough group to pull something like this off?
Getting a fascist elected just like with Hitler.

>>138303730
small government has the least potential for abuse and big government has the most potential for abuse

>>138303885
>small government has the least potential for abuse and big government has the most potential for abuse
And small government has the highest potential for subversion while big government has the lowest chance.

>>138304015
subversion of what?

>>138303730
Do you seriously think we have enough public support to get a fascist leader elected?

Either way, I'm going to bed, so this is probably where the discussion ends. But let me just say that giving full authority to the government to control your life and not expecting them to work against your own personal interests in both reckless and foolish beyond belief.

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>>138304190
Society. Jews will just work together and subvert the small government and society at the same time. They successfully did it with the U.S and made it go from Libertarian to what it is now.
There's a reason they go for media, then government.

>>138304015
Thats retarded logic. Big governments are easier to subverse and take advantage of because of the logistics in vetting government employees and operations, yoh need to have way more oversite which is difficult and expensive.

>>138304465
Not having enough support now doesn't mean we won't later.
>But let me just say that giving full authority to the government to control your life and not expecting them to work against your own personal interests in both reckless and foolish beyond belief.
That's why they let us have guns: just in case they themselves are being subverted.
>>138304548
>>138304507

>>138304507
"subvert society" doesn't make sense. society is not a set in stone concrete thing.

america was subverted with the federal reserve and 16th amendment. but it was also subverted with the first and second national banks, which andrew jackson vehemently fought.

U.S is more fascistic than anything right now due to "jews", it's just being used to leftist causes. right now trump is swinging it to the right, but still, once his term is over, it will SWING BACK to the left.

>>138305241
>U.S is more fascistic than anything right now due to "jews"
Jews are trying to make this country to be less nationalist, which is exactly the opposite of what Fascism wants to achieve. Big gov does not equal fascist. Fascism is explicitly large nationalist governments that want the best for the country they govern. The U.S gov is just congressmen who only care about bribes and keeping their cushy jobs. Fascism would not allow this to stand.

>>138294478
no way you're gonna ban traps or some dumb shit like that

>>138305729
Yeah, we would ban pornography and mental illness from being normalized.

>>138305684
they're only trying to make it less nationalistic becuase it profits them right now. they will do what profits them. if anyone will READ the constitution they'd realize none of this fascist shit should be happening at all and none of it would be allowed. dismantle the laws, dismantle the state. our nation was never based on race, but ideology. freedom FROM government

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>>138306303
>"muh constitution"
>our nation was never based on race
The whole reason this is happening is because we gave the Jews too much freedom. Also, America was explicitly formed for white Christians.
Read pic related and
>>138290907
this pic for why.

>>138306581
dude. cmon. i said constitution not laws passed by congress. men means men. lol. "mankind" not white men

but besides that, no, this is happening because people just aren't doing their jobs. not cuz jews have too much freedom.

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>>138307027
It was because Jews have too much freedom. They were kicked out of every single country they were in for a reason.

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>>138307027
Marx was a Jew, Lenin was a Jew, Trotsky was a Jew.

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>>138307027
Jews, Jews, Jews.
You haven't been on here for long, have you?

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>>138307027
More Jews.

>>138307228
this is pseudo science my man

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>>138307889
Is it?

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>>138307542
ive been here for years. i just feel that the jew thing is overhyped.

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>>138308044
You haven't been here long if you think that. Do you even know what infinity is?

>>138308108
i been here for a loong time. it wasn't even /pol/ it was /new/

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>>138308151
And /new/ was Nazi as well.

>>138308271
i know. i was like one of the few guys who didn't agree lol. and i still don't

spare me the red pills, i have been attempted to be red pilled on jews/hitler plenty times already

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>>138308336
Are you just too stubborn to admit you're wrong or what?
It's pretty fucking clear there is a trend when Jews are involved and that civic nationalism is dumb.

>>138308499
Nigger libertarianism existed long before any of these kikes were ever born.

>>138308499
i'm not wrong on anything, i just don't believe jews are born evil or wanting to subvert society. good at gaining profit sure but nothing else. let them have profit, just don't give them any

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>>138308603
Yes, but then they realized they could subvert it even further then it already could be.

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>>138308715
>i'm not wrong on anything
OK, so you are just stubborn.
Jews aren't born evil, it's just instinct for them. Some can rise above it, certainly, most 99.9% of them cannot.

Libertarian Right, here.

>tfw Libertarian Party is so cucked and incompetent that you're ashamed of admitting you're Libertarian

>>138289111
making sick judenfrei gainz on /biz/

>>138308873
ok. i'm stubborn. just not buying it

this is how conversations always go with you guys.
>jews
>but muh jews
>but jews! dude jews!

>>138309275
>this is how conversations always go with you guys.
>jews
>but muh jews
>but jews! dude jews!
Maybe because it's the Jews. Even then, it's not all we talk about. If we're going by the same logic, I could say you guys plug your ears at the truth and scream
>freedom
>but muh freedom
>but freedom! dufe freedom!
The Jews are talked about because they are such a negative influence, there is no debating that apart from dodging the questions and evidence for it. You can't just ignore a problem and expect it to go away. Also, why keep bumping this thread?

>>138309649
i'm just bored. and yea well, i'm wary of jews myself. but it is right to let them enjoy freedom too. just that we have to not let our government expand or buy into a central bank. and i don't think they're instinctually evil, i don't think anyone is.

>>138309843
>but it is right to let them enjoy freedom too
They keep proving that they can't handle it
>just that we have to not let our government expand or buy into a central bank
Yeah, in fascism the nation, not the banks, has final control on the money, so on that we agree.
>and i don't think they're instinctually evil, i don't think anyone is.
I don't think this either. Jews and blacks can rise above the urge to do what they do. And it does happen that a few manage to do this. Most times often than not, however, they act as expected. Sadly, exceptions do not make the rule.

>>138310166
i am a minarchist. i believe state is minimal, to maintain the nation. that's it.

last thing, do you like trump cuz he's against the liberal hacks, or do u hate trump cuz he allies with jews

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>>138310742
He's done good and he's done bad. He's better than what could have been, but he isn't the best that we could have got. He's not Hitler, but he's the best we could do with all the moderates we had to convince. I still have hope for him, even if he has made a few big mistakes. I give him until next year to see what else he does before I make a real judgement either way.

>>138311096
lol. ok
goodnight