End of Capitalism General

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>>138279677
Die communist filth

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>>138279677

>>138279677
>Top Rabbi tells Jews to flee to Israel after mossad does a false flag in Barcelona
>Jews collapse the economy

wow it's almost like the Bible was right and Jesus is the only way.

>>138279677
Question for those in the know:

If you know your economics and can see something awful happening, then what are you personally doing to protect yourself?

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>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

> Accelerationism may also refer more broadly, and usually pejoratively, to support for the deepening of capitalism in the belief that this will hasten its self-destructive tendencies and ultimately lead to its collapse.
>in order to generate radical social change

REALLY MAKES ONE PONDER

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>>138280112
Rest in pepperoni, noreeman.

I hear about this "falling rate of profit" thing a lot from commies but can someone explain to me what it is and why it falls? Isn't the ruling class profiting off increased productivity because wages don't increase and more jobs get automated? Wouldn't that mean their rate of profit is going up?

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>>138279677

>>138279677
Is this supposed to be the continuation of this other thread?
>>138263440
Kinda disappointed OP is the commie from that thread.

>>138280059
Personally I am richer than most of the planet, I have no overdraft no loans no mortgage. I am made to feel as though I have little though.

If you were looking for investment advice for money I would say buy agricultural land.

>>138280210
oh shid
i wasnt in that thread

>>138279677
The problem isn't capitalism itself. The real problem is preventing corrupt monopolies to form.

>>138280059
Depends on where you think the crisis will come from. Wherever it is, buy the counterpart. Euro crisis? Buy dollars. Bond crisis? Buy equities. General liquidity crisis? Physical possession of crypto-currencies and precious metals.

>>138280246
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall

Ruling class profits from the lower class. Falling rate of profit means that the ruling class is overaccumulating the money. This leads to overinvestment, which causes bubbles. While less money in the hands of the lower classes will cause a consumption crash. You can browse wikipedia for marxist terms.

>>138280246
How can you profit if no one has money to spend?

>>138279677
Hardehaahar.

>>138280051

The jobs are absolutely being created elsewhere. Capital doesn't evaporate and people with money don't let their money don't let their money nothing make money.

The issue is its crating jobs in Chinkland and other places I don't care about. We should create stronger trade rules that encourage wither keeping money in the domestic economy or in countries that have a reasonable trade balance and aren't chinks. For what's it worth the US actually has a trade surplus with Canada and its mostly expensive labour intensive manufactured foods.

>>138279829
He's saying; despite a soaring market, traditional indicators are not showing signs of an economic recovery. Therefore, it is still too early to move into more risky investments.
His statement probably will have an impact on the market for about a week until something breaks loose. Why is everyone so damn retarded?

>>138279677
The only problem is neoliberalism.

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>>138280246
You're right they're profiting! They've got so much money there aren't enough investment opportunities for them. There're too many rich dweebs chasing yield, and that chases yield DOWN. Investment yield is the rate of profit, and it's falling.

>>138280394
if you paid attention, you'd see that liberals are currently trying to coopt and silence commies.

>>138280246
Sometimes it's better to have lower margins but a weak and pliable (not troublemaking) workforce.

>>138280296
Farming is tough work, make sure you get friendly with successful farmers first. I know a lot of successful ranchers, they often have logging businesses on the side in BC.

>a communist confirming anti-semitism

everything checks out

>>138280520
Stop linking Marx you brainless fucking idiot. You don't understand economics. I already raped you in the other thread.

>>138279677
>Complaining how strong competition forces a reduction of the profit margin, benefiting consumers with reduced prices and specialized products
Gee communist senpai, are you gay?

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Jewish bankers and jewish oligarchy love comminism.

"We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America." (The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit)

>>138281017
>showing you don't know or even understand history = rape
wew lad

>>138280520
Over-investment doesn't necessarily cause bubbles
Speculation in a particular asset causes bubbles

It's more about perception of return (by any member of the economy) that causes a bubble

And if for some reason that asset ends up actually having something close to that value relative to other commodities, it's not a bubble at all (even if the shares evenly distributed across the entire economy)

Rich throwing money around plus natural chance causes members to fall out of the upper class
Staying rich is harder than "muh capital" when everyone is trying to fuck you over and you aren't even guaranteed to get returns, and then you watch your trashy children get strung out on heroin and die

>>138281031
The flip side is the concentration of whole markets in oligopolistic or effective monopoly situations, which allow the wealthy to siphon off wealth more effectively, and also leads to an eventual reduction of the profit margin because those cozy lazy oligarchic companies aren't forced to invest by competition.

>>138281175
>Over-investment doesn't necessarily cause bubbles
It does in the Housing market

>>138280477
>Physical possession of crypto-currencies

What did he mean by this

>>138280854
Farming is indeed tough, as investment advice in a time of massive financial instability you want to store your money in something that will hold value. Housing in most western countries is overvalued as it should be 4x yearly earnings for a house (economically viable leverage).
Farming land cannot be built anymore any destroyed and retains value in any mad max scenario.

>>138279677

This is the end of Capitalism says increasingly nervous Marxist for the 1000th time.

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>>138281297
Why do suck JEWISH cocks bankers so much?

Communism is in the air, imagine if we got the protesters today to name it openly. Capitalisms days are numbered

>>138281310
Probably that gimmick with bitcoin info being stored on a physical drive that looks like currency or a credit card dealio. Not sure if that's still around.

>>138281372
Tick Tock

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

>>138281113
Rofl, you said nothing substantive in that entire thread, responded to no critics, and just linked some retarded wikipedia article on a Marxist theory, a theory which is almost without exception, total horseshit.

>>138281098
Wow you really know what you're talking about I trust you

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/06/20/russia-surprises-euro-bond-market-with-new-issue-and-europeans-go-nuts/

>>138281152
Interesting theory.... why not search "where to invest my money?"

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>>138279677
>Yodelling Pickle
IT'S PICKLE RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK

>>138281608
Alternatively
https://unvis.it/forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/06/20/russia-surprises-euro-bond-market-with-new-issue-and-europeans-go-nuts

>>138281518
We should just kill the parasite JEWISH ruling class.

Kill them all

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>>138281573
Nah, the debt doesn't matter as long the petrodollar system is in place. With it, USA can print money without consequence.

Of course, that depends on OPEC, whose leader is Saudi Arabia. And Saudi Arabia is totally a beacon of stability. :^)

>>138280013

assuming you're an actual African and not a larping as a "ghetto nigger" in some other thread, I look forward to seeing you in Paradise.

While my people and your people often don't get along, hearing you say "Jesus is the only way" was a refreshing reminder that He will ultimately heal our respective nations and bring us together under Him.

>>138281310
Ehh mostly it means self-management of your coins rather than storing it in a digital-cash bank, which can be robbed. I know there are some people who get actual physical possession - there are physical "coins" that digitally store BTC info in a readable way, but you need physical access to the coin. More than I'd do ...

>>138279998
"one day"

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>>138281152
>/pol/ evolves into the stock market
Kinda interested anon, though most of it is made up of NEETs.

>>138279677
Oh look its another episode of Central Banks run the economy into the ground.

Central Banks issuing fiat currency is a plank of the Communist Manifesto.

>>138281152
Kek I'll do it, we need more happenings as it stands

>>138281573

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>>138281779

The debt matters and the US position as the reserve currency of the world will come home to roost. All those dollars will flood back to the united states as the dollar goes to the moon and all currencies depreciate.

US companies are feeling it now especially those that make most of their profit outside of the US. The kicker being that is most of them.

>>138281779
That's a sobering KSA post.

>>138279677
>end of capitalism
No that just means we are going to hit the the Great Depression again

>>138280570
These communist kids are all hopeless illiterate retards or disingenious faggots just baiting with repetition of the same retarded shit no matter how dumb and wrong they know it is, simply because its part of their cult and they are no different than libfag shitposter.

You are wasting your time and braincells on something that just deserves to be shot for the sake of mankind.

Sage and ignore.

>>138282161
The US will keep being the reserve currency as long as OPEC decrees US dollars to be what buys you dat sweet Middle Eastern Oil. That's why dropping that trade is hazardous to your health as a dictator. RIP Saddam and Ghaddafi. Assad and Iran are next on the list.

>>138282161
Are you saying there'll be hyperinflation because of the public debt? Please.

>>138282551
Yeah, we're not that lucky.

wow fuck you mods, why did you ban me???

>>138279677
>muh useless trinkets.

Oh boy allowing useless trinkets to be manufactured is so evil, we must size the means of production to prevent this from happing.

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>>138282286

In all honesty when they give these modest and prudent estimates on how bad it is to the public, it must be 1000x more bad behind the scenes. They must really be panicking.

You could have stopped this.

>>138282033
I've worked in data sciences for US Bank, Wells Fargo, Home Depot and IBM Global Services.

Yes they scan certain sectors of the web for common phrases to try and get ahead of certain trends. No they don't scan top Google searches, popular hashtags or this stupid site.

There was a time when 4chan was formidable. Today it's a bunch of fucking jobless faggots.

When I saw that one guy who got fired for being a Nazi after going to Charlottesville, worked at a fast food restaurant called "Top Dog" I was like yep that's pretty fucking typical.

Shit like this makes me think they want communism becuse in capitalism, they know that eating up all the money in the world will eventually fuck them over

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>>138282724
Raiding the stock market

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>>138282211
Checked. mfw 4chin NEETs read all of Soros's economic books and use his tactics against him.

>>138279677
PICKLE RICK

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Initiating directive 7395: destroy all communists!

Saged, die communist scum.

>>138282713
Nah, there will be hyperinflation after the petrodollar collapses, and all the cash, now being worthless and unable to buy oil, will rush back into USA.

>>138282713
No the debt matters as it will not be repaid and obviously has counterparties. The fed is basically bailing out the other central banks with its credit lines at present as there is not enough dollars in circulation to feed worldwide demand.

Hyperinflation will occur when all those dollars rush home to the fed when the next financial crisis hits indeed it is my opinion and it is only a theory that this will cause the end of the current system.

The swiss national bank is fighting the same issue but more severe.

>>138282810
Or maybe it's reverse psychology to scare the goy as they laugh?
Or maybe it's what you say...
Just be self-sustainable, guns ammo and the likes.

capitalism may be having a crisis but it certainly won't be communism that takes over. That's where the commutards are so wrong, yeah they'll bring a collapse alright, only for defeat to be snatched from the jaws of victory. You are nothing but useful idiots.

>>138283403
Let's be honest, who the hell knows what's coming up. Scaring times my friend.

>>138283327

There's that one liberal cartoon that's like "What if global warming is fake and we change the planet for the better for no reason?"

"What if the end is fake and you get guns, ammo, practice shooting, and are prepared for no reason?"

>>138282009
Not all bombs come with timers.

>>138283403

>inb4 That's not real communism

>inb4 revisionism and reactionaries secretly destroyed it

>inb4 inevitably of transition of capitalism to communism

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It would have crashed back in 2008 but the government nationalized the banks, the funny part is the banks didn't even want it but Hank Paulson basically forced them to accept

Since then central banks have bought 14 trillion in assets or some shit

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>>138280961
the answer is obvious then
WW3 here i come

>>138279677
>changes norway flag to communist to disguise that he's a reposting shill.

>>138279677
finally communism is going to end

I think people on this thread need to learn about M2 money supply and consider where all those dollars the US has been pumping out under TARP and QE. M2 pulled from the BIS website for US dollars rose from 4.6 trillion in 2000 to 12.8 trillion in 2016 the last figure I have. This increase in money supply has not corresponded with inflation. That baby is yet to come, pure mathematics I'm afraid.

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>>138279998
>I read one zero hedge article and now I'm an expert on why capitalism must fail.

I wonder if Bill Gates knows something.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/15/bill-gates-charity-donation-microsoft-shares-foundation

>>138281573
you're right we should remove jews

>>138283985
>they didn't want it
Can you explain a bit further?

What if I unironically believe that all wealth should be earned and lost through gambling?

will never ever happen

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>>138284657
You get a ticket to a Festival.

>>138283141
OBSTACLE FOUND : 2 647 ANARCHO-COMMUNIST AGITATORS ARMED WITH MINOR DAMAGE-DEALING WEAPONRY. TARGETS STATUS ; RUNNING IN RUDIMENTARY SMOKEFIELD. NO SPECIAL ORDINANCE FOUND.
PROBABILITY OF MISSION HINDRANCE : ZERO PERCENT!

>>138285117
This isn't the casino. This isn't the casino at all.

>>138279677
It will kick off when China experiences a real estate bubble burst - the biggest in history

Bankruptcies will follow, governments will lose control over territories, public services will become limited (I wonder where will people take shit and piss), unemployment will rise, savings will be wiped out, desperate people will start to kill and rob the rich, food in stores will be limited, people will be in shock, public hygiene will deteriorate and this will cause epidemics, there will be revolutions etc.

>>138284657

Never understood gambling. It is an addiction as powerful as any drug but at least a junkie buys something real.

>>138285140
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>>138285244
Yeah china is a joke. In any economic cycle you should assume losses on bad loans of around 10%. According to their central bank there were no losses. yeah good luck with that one all smoke and mirrors that country.

>>138281312
Out here we have a lot of good range land, some valley crops.

Cows are extremely valuable and they eat the grass in the fields minus finishing on grain. Good money but you need good employeez and a lot of startup capital.

No subsidies but you don't need them.

>>138285244
that place is fucking disgusting. Stupid ant-worker people.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Mall
>No. of stores and services 47 (20 planned) (Total spaces: 2350, Unoccupied: 2303)[1]

>the largest shopping mall in the world when measured in terms of gross leasable area, and second in terms of total area to The Dubai Mall (which has extensive non-shopping space including a zoo, a hotel complex and a theme park).[2] South China Mall opened in 2005 and for more than 10 years it was mostly vacant as few merchants ever signed up, leading it to be dubbed a dead mall.[3]

Pair that up with the fact that the government owns housing and it's expensive as fuck. I hate chinks.

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>>138279803
Found a picture of you

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>>138284639
The banks fell hard for the mortgage backed securities meme so once the housing bubble popped in 2006 it threatened to bring down the financial system

Henry Paulson(treasury secretary) and Ben Bernanke(federal reserve) got $700 billion from congress to bail out the banks, basically they would give the money to the banks in return the government would become shareholders, the banks were like "fuck that shit" because if the government were shareholders they could dictate the banks, the bankers hated government and their regulations, however Hank Paulson basically forced them to accept because the economy potentially collapsing was a national security issue, the banks would have rather taken the losses than come under government control

After that central bankers started buying trillions of dollars of assets to keep their prices high, which is why now stock prices are high as fuck same with house prices back to 2006 bubble prices, despite the economy never truly recovering after 2008

>>138285652
You just can't handle the truth

>>138284361
Dude it's just sitting in bank balance-sheets. TARP is how the Fed increased the bank's collateral percentages to modern accounting standards. They're basically 'fake' dollars, useable between American banks and the Fed, but not transferable. That's why it hasn't exploded inflation.

People don't understand TARP and QE.

>>138285782
Socialising the losses of the private banking sector was the biggest robbery since the fall of communism.

>>138281297
That was speculation to the extreme. The main thing that caused the crash -the mortgage bonds- were actually really safe until a bunch of fucktards decided to give loans to people who couldn't possibly pay them off. The reason the loans didnt go down quickly though was because these loans were locked at a set rate of interest for a few years, then jumped way the hell up. Cheap credit leads to the giving of shitty loans, these make shitty bonds. Normally this wouldn't be so bad it really went to shit once dumbasses decided to speculate or basically bet on these shitty loans and when the banks said they were A+. What needs to die in the modern economy is not capitalism but really stupid betting and ineptitude.

>>138285499
Because their corporate loans are fueled by shadow banks, maybe that's why, Idk. Anyway Chinks still have monetary policy left, but the West is fucked beyond imagination. I feel like new states will arise, because the coming crisis will be so deep it's hard to predict. I wonder whether China will wage war for resources and whether banks will hire private armies to get their liabilities back

Commies are basically weeaboos.

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>>138284657
Sounds like the crypto market is right for you. Image from leddit is pretty accurate.

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Communism is reactionary.
Stop LARPing as dead movements with your irrelevant literature made for farmers in the early 20th century.
Read Dugin.

>>138285986
That is a good analogy fake dollars. I fully understand how tarp and QE are designed to work. The swap lines were between the Fed the BOE the BOJ and the ECB and continue now with emergency facilities and I would not be happy at that as a US voter.

Away from that though you can see the effect of QE on the bond market IE how much money people will give you for US securities and the yield curve is negative.

It is financial wizadry much akin to modern pharmacology for mental illness. They think its works, have no idea if it does and if it doesn't they simply prescribe more.

>>138285782
Thanks Leaf. Puts into perspective why the CEO of JP Morgan went on a rant a few weeks ago.

https://youtu.be/viPV0M96PRU

>>138286455
>Dugin
What's a good book>?

>>138286136

I don't know if China will end up getting played like the last time it traded with the west (Opium wars) and are left holding lots of bits of paper.

I think the leadership will have more problems dealing and controlling its people than it has the capacity to wage war.

>>138279677
>End Capitalism
>Posts from PC he got thanks to Capitalism.

Kindly fuck off you commie prick.

>>138287023
Hello, Mr Paki Mohammed Bin Nigger Al Rapist.
China has immense, unrestricted control of its citizens. Dissenters have their organs harvested, you dumb shit.

Xi Jinping started a huge modernisation of the Chink army a few months ago. They also have more troops than half the worlds nations combined, in a war for resources post any kind of collapse they would crush any opposition.

>>138286722
OK, sorry I underestimated you.

Yeah the central banks really have little idea what they're doing. I read the outskirts of the literature that establishes their game plan, and it's funny how their structures also always continue to push more money towards the elites.

>>138287879
I speak regularly with someone who works in China and this was not the impression that they gave, they were very much of the opinion that the social structure would not withstand the slightest upheaval.
You are right president Xi has attempted to modernise a lot of different aspects and has better trade links with Africa than the west.

We will see I am sure and for the record I am Scottish and so pasty coloured I spent 4 hrs on the beach in Mexico to conclude I was the whitest gringo in Cancun. Don't discriminate kk

>>138285331
The gambler buys suspense. You can have it with a good movie but gambling gives you a personnal involvement too.

>>138288660
I guess whether they are evil or not their aim is simply to maintain the status quo.

There are a lot of people who do nothing of economic value to society and are rewarded greatly for it, the problem is that each dollar they are paid devalues your dollar equally. We all know the balance needs fixed.

>>138289229

Lucky I am too bad a looser to ever be able to gamble seriously. I end up stealing an item of the value of my loss.

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>>138279677
Thank you brother

>>138289754
That's probably the other thing a gambler buys, the intellectual exercise. It's a waste, once you realize how such efforts could be usefully used.
Indeed, the gambler's pleasure eplains a lot about the financial system, too.

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>>138285331
Gambling addiction is a lie. All ventures in life are a complex dynamic of risk and reward. Retooling the free market to behave like a gambling house would simply result in a more honest and fair system of wealth exchange.