Jordan Peterson

>>138237234
If you're a pol user you may consider him overrated given how highly regarded he is here.
But as someone that deals with a lot of Liberal Arts Professors, lemme tell ya, he's not overrated compared to them. Even the best ones.
He's unique, in thought and in approach, and he's got balls, which are EXTREMELY rare in Academics.

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>>138237234
This guy just keeps rambling on about nothing.

No, listen to his college lectures. He is a fucking amazing professor. I have only met one or two with his qualities in my entire life. He is the real deal. There are plenty of things you can criticize him on. His eccentricities, his pragmatic view of "truth", and whatnot. Still the fucker is a genius and I love him though there are many things I disagree on.

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>>138237234
This pic is for you anon, you need it.

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>>138237234
K

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>>138237234
Wrong

>>138237234
>character assassination thread
Into the trash it goes

>>138238264
He keeps repeating the Jungian transformation of the self and taking down politics in a very vague way nazis and communists and fascists are evil,liberals are wrong conservatives are not right as well,and making "postmodernism" his scape goat dealing with it very vaguely and browsing in it more than it can hold,even tho himself using many of its elements.

>>138238611
I've watched his self and transformation lecture series all of it,he makes some good point here and there but he is so repetitive his whole 22 or so lectures can be given in couple hours max without losing anything,he makes a lot of free style interpretations.which is not scientifically not philosophically healthy,max stages of it leads to a cult like Scientology psycoanalysis which I encourage you to check and put some points together,you should becarful

hi friends, any self-improvement discord/irc/board?

>last month Google shutter its down his Gmail for no reason
>they re-open it after a day, no explanation
>last week Capeless Hero James Damore released manifesto
>gets fired
>immediately goes on webcam interview with JP

It's pretty obvious Peterson influenced Damore, and his manifesto was partly an act of revenge.

>>138239521

That comes from his fixation on Jung primarily. Though I completely agree with you on being leery of any kind of cult obsession with the guy, I think, and hope, he is humble enough to bypass any evil like that. I find his rambling style to be charming myself. I can definitely see how somebody with skeptical or positivistic notions would NOT like him.I think the obsession around him is sadly because of the young men of today desperately crave edification of the old sort, from a man with authority and genuine character. It is fucking rare. I have seen similar followings around other folks like this.

What I fear is this kind of longing directly connects to the growing Caesarism of our day. People are craving a charismatic leader who can cut through all the bulllshit of our times and save the day.

>>138237234
His nonstop virtue signaling makes it really hard to not see him as another naive civnat who still believes blacks can be fixed

>>138240987

There is a difference between virtue signalling to boost your social standing and ACTUALLY BELIEVING IN RIGHT AND WRONG RETARD

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>>138237234
Jordan is the king of pol faggit.

He's done more in 2 mins of talking than you will do in your whole pathetic life.

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>>138237234
Sort faggit.

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Clean your room.

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>>138237234

>>138241295
Sorry but you can make arguments without suffocating your audience for 5 minutes while you be offended on behalf of all those le inconvenient truths

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>>138238060
Bingo. He's the most visible advocate of a particular perspective, and he easily clears the low bar set by most modern liberal arts profs.

Plus, you can synch him up to muppets videos and it all still works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PESYQ6TGwhQ

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>>138237234
He's a Canadian.

>if you kill your enemies, they win
>if you engage in identity politics, your opponents that have done so for decades win, therefore lay donw and take it up the ass goy

And he gets $66K per fucking month FOR THIS

>>138237234
why does he look like a half life 2, cs: source character?

>>138239521
We're gonna rag on Peterson for Cult like following but Stefan Molyneux.

>>138243132
Agreed. I don't think he really wants to see whites move forward, he just likes to listen to himself talk. That or he's really really optimistic about the current state of things. Not surprising, typical boomer shit that landed us here in the first place

>>138243667
But not Stefan Molyneux's creepy ass forum*

>>138243755
Molyneux isn't perfect but he's actually realized that whites have to reclaim their in group to see any change whatsoever. People like Peterson are too busy feeling good that they don't have to stoop to that level cuz muh two sides of the same coin

>>138237234
>I found you tubers with moderate number of subscribers who have better arguments and a lot more well read than him both in philosophy and politics.


So TELL THEM

Or wait YOU (INB4 someone else answer for him, if you do you didnt understood my post) dont know any

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>>138243718
He's an academic, therefore very insulated from reality. His peers, his friends, the people who interacts with are of roughly the same income group, and that would be upper-middle class. He has no grasp on what's the actual reality in the middle and working class, that's why he's so easily spewing cuckservative wishful thinking.

This is my assessment in the case he's genuine about what he states and not a complete shill that found the opportunity to milk the stupid people off their money. Sadly, i am inclined to believe that the latter is the case, for you cannot be an academic that values reason, truth, and observable facts and say this thing about white identity politics. You just absolutely can't, else you are a complete idiot that should be the janitor in the facility, not a fucking professor

>>138237234
He's really blue pilled on the holohoax.

It's so infuriating watching his videos where he talks about how evil the Nazis were because spending all those resources to kill you're entire slave labor force while losing a war on two fronts makes no sense unless your completely evil.

Or Jordan did you ever think that maybe it makes no sense because it's made up atrocity propaganda?

Other than that I like him.

>>138237234
His bible lectures are amazing. If you had seen those you wouldn't have said he wasn't well read either.

>>138246227
I agree, that was painful to listen to. He has some mental barrier when it comes to the nazis, which seems the case with a lot of people.

>>138247152
>http://archive.is/g72yP
I say this as an atheist btw. Although he has a certain charm which you should arm yourself against, sometimes he makes statement very emotionally and forcefully, usually a sign of a weak argument,

>>138245083
Precisely this. He has referenced the Ahkenazi Jews IQ by name and stated they are prominent in places of power

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>>138237234
Average millennials are just so starved for academia to produce something other than materialism/nihilism/marxism that somebody paraphrases Jung and says the Bible is cool and their fucking heads explode.

Masses of people who aren't capable of reading books need a hero, and he fills in this niche, charming them by being charismatic/arrogant enough. Who cares if he horribly mangles and misinterprets more than the half of literature he reads, he speaks common sense to simpletons in laymen terms, since their parents and school teachers failed to.

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>>138237234
Peterson's message reminds me a lot of Joseph Campbell's thoughts. Everyone should watch/read his Power of Myth work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxrEdH1Evik

>>138238886
This.

You're an idiot who expected him to be something other than what he is.

He's Joseph Campbell, not Stefan Molyneux

>>138248542
I wonder why he needs 100k+ and he already makes 63k add to that YouTube revenue 6 videos production monthly needs that much?
At least he can say give me money to not investing my time in pursuing other profitable branches.but not that you need them to produce "HQ" videos and edit them

>>138240987
at the end of his last bible lecture, he shortly answered a question regarding IQ
at one point he said something like this
>I absolutely disagree with the scientific IQ research, but it seems to be true as much as I disagree with it, because it delivers some terrifying conclusions
I don't have the words right
but I'm pretty sure he was hinting at IQ differences between races

>>138249571
>I wonder why he needs 100k+ and he already makes 63k add to that YouTube revenue 6 videos production monthly needs that much?
Did you even read the page?

>The sky's the limit. I am now starting to formalize my plans to bring accredited online humanities education to as many people as possible around the world. My colleagues and I (who include excellent engineers, programmers, financiers and educators) want to take the humanities back from the corrupt postmodernists, and offer education of the highest possible quality everywhere at 1/10 the price or less. We'll solve the accreditation problem as well, offering degree-equivalents with real psychometric value: best student in 10000; best in 1000; best in 100; best in 10; best in 5 (and no certification granted below that). We want to automate and crowdsource the problem of teaching people to write. We want to set up the courses so that (1) the content itself is constantly graded and improved and (2) the same goes for the accreditation process. We'll start with the humanities, including history, generating something approximately a four year liberal arts college degree, teaching people how to be responsible, literate, effective, powerful, confident citizens. We want to conduct real research into how people learn (and how they learn fast) and use the results of that research to make education better. It's high time for the humanities of the new millenium.

>>138243132
>if you engage in identity politics, your opponents that have done so for decades win
as you can see with today's protests, he wasn't all too wrong

>>138248936
I agree with that,and he might be doing a positive job,but even among some smart people I found an unrealistic inflation of him,which needed some bursting.

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>>138246227
He is obviously in it (mostly) for the money. He saw a niche of millennials needing non-nihilistic life advice and filled it. Ever since ADL blocked his YouTube and $66K Pateron it has been plain obvious he now fears the (((Tribe))) messing with his money. Nobody wants to lose extra $66K/month for basically misinterpreting Nietzsche, paraphrasing Jung and whisper-yelling at your target audience. Hence he does the good goy pandering dance thing now.

>>138250067
that's why he puts all the money in his online university and authoring programs, right?
makes sense man

>>138240373
>It's pretty obvious Peterson influenced Damore

If you actually watched the fucking interview you'd know Damore says he's a fan of Peterson.

he's a typical beta liberal arts professor who got his feelings hurt by some trannies with asymmetrical haircuts so now he cries about how the left is evil and redpill fags fangirl out and donate to his patreon.

he's a boring cunt.

>>138249926
>implying the dominant media is being objective
Yeah Fritz, you're right, we're the issue

>>138245264
This. He always talks about humanity being tormented by meaninglesness and whatnot, but most people aren't like that. Most of them don't really care and are content to eat and fuck and to wear better clothes than their neighbor. They might make them suffer unknowingly, but that's something else altogether.

>>138237234
He's an intellectual who clears a low bar.

>>138238060
nah. i've been around a lot of liberal arts professors. he's not special - he's just too autistic to let stupid sjw shit go.

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>>138249926

ID is different because my isp is a faggot

>as you can see with today's protests, he wasn't all too wrong

What did you see in the todays protests? Because what i saw was a shitload of soros paid shills bussed there from all neighboring states.

Seriously, what's your solution in shifting the Overton window to the right? You know that the kikes and the media are shilling 24/7 against true right-wing positions, give me a constructive alternative to rallies and demonstrations when you have all mainstream media against you, Hans

>>138250067
Could you tell me how he misinterprets Nietzsche? I don't want to be misinformed any longer than I have to be

>>138237234

He's a usual Baby Boomer Liberal with an annoying TradCon streak. He uses archetypes as arguments. The next time I hear him present an argument using god damn Pinocchio as the basis for it, I'm done.

He also has this annoying Centrist rhetoric: "the left and right NEED each other because...uh...because that's how a snake moves..." No we fuckin don't. You can't force 335,000,000 people of different race and political belief to live together under a Federal government and not expect everything to be fine and dandy.

He also called the Nationalist movements in Europe "regressive" and compared them to SJW's who want safe spaces. People who want to live without worrying about an Islamic terrorist mowing them down for blowing them up are now equivalent to busted cunts who don't want to hear opinions other than their own.

He ignores hard economic and legal realities in favor of using archetypes to tell you why you should do something.

He's just all fucky and I'm bored of it.

>>138237234
OP is overrated

>>138243755
Stefan can get some too. another cunt with a thesaurus who thirsty /pol/fags swarmed to.

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>>138250367

my ID is different cause fuck my ISP

>He always talks about humanity being tormented by meaninglesness and whatnot

Well if he seriously states that, he's genuinely stupid. Is he not aware of Maslow's pyramid? Does he have the nerve to imply that the majority of people have reached the self-actualization stage? Jesus Christ, he's utterly divorced from reality

>>138237234
For plebs who can't keep up with JBP I suppose there's always Crowder or Molymeme. ;)

>>138249551
Do NOT put Jordan "google iz goolag" Peterson on the same level as Campbell, faggot

>>138237234
>better arguments and a lot more well read than him both in philosophy and politics

Vague as fuck statement,
either expand on it with some actual arguments or get the fuck out you cock licking contrarian

>>138239714
>hi fellow whites, any self-improvement discord/irc/board?
fixed

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>>138237234
He's not a Christian
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=RIB05YeMiW8&t=1s
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>>138242575
have an upboat

>>138251403
even sam harris has admitted that's basically what peterson is

deal with it

>>138237234
Peterson's greatest asset is his need to explain things as objectively as possible. Something clearly lacking in nearly everyone else. He is 99% honest.

>>138250210
His online university and authoring program are both future revenue streams. Before his pronoun shits, he didn't have much of an audience. At U of T, no one took his work seriously. he was a tenured professor and he kept shilling the same book. Normally, successful professors would go to write seminal texts in their respective fields and those books then become adopted globally as teaching texts. Peterson did not do this, though he did try with maps of meaning. It really says something when your book is only used for your course and no where else. So him lagging in academia and in trying to be a public intellectual, he courted controversy with the pronoun shit and now he found an audience to milk.

>>138251227
>Does he have the nerve to imply that the majority of people have reached the self-actualization stage?
That's how rich people are. They don't understand anything outside of their bubble.

>>138250210
>in his online university
*which won't be free
>and authoring programs
*which aren't free

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>character assassination thread

When you achieve 1/4 of what this man has achieved and grow balls as big as to put your job, reputation and future career on the line because you want to defend what you believe in then you are allowed to shit talk this man.

You fucking underage commie loving faggots.

>>138251343
Please do not put that goofball next to molymeme

>>138251403
Both JC and JBP are students of Carl Jung. That does not necessarily discredit them or their work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IgGtGZwlDY

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>>138252237
>self authoring programs
*Which have been given away for free on many occasions

Let me guess, you think this creature is /r/girl

>>138252079
Well to be fair, it's a characteristic trait of mankind, everyone subconsiously assumes that his experiences, views, hardships, positions, ideology represents the average man. Everyone believes that the average common perception of reality matches his worldview.

Rich people (not billionaires, but up to millionaires) tend to not realise most of the time that they belong to the 0,9% or even lower. This however is not an excuse, because if one is not able to recognise his own biases and the reason behind them, is just legitimately stupid

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To me his followers are just kind of sad. A bunch of manbabies wagging their tail because they finally have the stern and conservative dad they were promised in the boomer movies, telling them to clean their room and man up. I bet leftists love him too, he's their imaginary enemy.

>>138252304
>muh achievements
Great argument. Guess we can't critique the guy, pack it up and go home boys. JBP and his points are infallible.

Seriously, provide some arguments or go suck his dick somewhere else

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>this man makes 732k a year making videos for millenials that are too lazy to read a book or think for themselves
>he even milked out a 200k indiegogo grant from the /pol/ crowd to study "SJWs"

And there are still people ITT right now that think they're smarter than him because they read a wikipedia article on Nietzsche or some shit.

L M A O

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>>138242121

I've noticed that when asked about Jews, he sort of tiptoes around the issue. But then he says "read Solzhenitsyn" which is effectively to say "look I'm not saying it's the Jew, but it's kinda the Jews, ok?"

We are officially nearing 1917 Russia status.

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>>138253758

2/2

>>138253756
You have to add his university salary and his private practice bux to that.

Anyone want to play the Jordan Peterson drinking game?

http://solo1y.tumblr.com/post/164227003080

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>>138254314
Take a drink for every $1000 he makes.

>>138243718

Sometimes I wonder if he just wants to mollify and "soften" some people to stifle any headway they might make.

I believe the rise of identity politics is due in part to decades of "we're all the same, stop having any in group preference, buy these products and watch these movies" propaganda. The more we deny the fact that we cannot possibly all get along if we're forced to live with each other, the worse this will get, whereas some secession and voluntary isolation along political, philosophical, and sometimes even racial lines will be good for peace.

>>138254314

You can do this with everyone. It's pretty sad as you never notice it in regular conversation. Extroverts are the worst for this.

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>>138256765
Why did he get a hair transplant then?

>>138237234
>lot more well read than him

>>138241459
This. He is the ONLY legit role model for /pol/acks. He's extremely well educated, normie friendly and not a total autist weirdo.

Less edgelords more father rescuing

>>138240373
His manifesto was written weeks or months before it leaked and a different Google employee acquaintance contacted Peterson saying Damore wanted to talk, he didn't know him at all prior. Ignorant fucking moron.

>>138254535
I just can't go another minute listening to him ramble about problems that have very simple answers. When we're dealing with the migrant crisis, the browning of America, all of this racial strife towards whites on a daily basis from both the government and media, whites clearly have a strong argument for their own interest and identity. how can he remain so naive to what is going on? I don't have time for people that like to dance around problems for an hour and then provide no real solution like "wow why are we in this mess? Here's my cuckservative googoogaga worldview, allow me to continue ignoring the obvious" You can show him IQ stats, crime stats, economic stats, and he'll still keep on virtue signaling. We need to forget boomers like him. Molyneux is good, but JBP's brain is far too addled by white guilt to ever focus on any real solution

Is he the one that keeps repeating stuff like: clean your dead father's ass and find your clean at the bottom of the sea?

>>138258309
> he didn't know him at all prior
but that's wrong

>>138250795
I don't claim to have the answers, neither do I claim he has them

But when there's only 20 people brave enough to attend a free speech rally, and 20000 others protesting against it because of recent nazi related events, then all that tells me is someone, somewhere made a big fucking mistake

>>138252237
I got his self authoring for free

also, online university IS going to be free he says, free to attend that is
only thing you have to pay a fee for is accreditation/exams

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>>138263318
The fact that 20 people showed up and managed to hold the rally and walk away uscathed when the other side had 1000 times their number it will only serve to give courage to people. The precedent now is even after fatty's death people were brave enough to go and protest, outnumbered 1000 to 1 and still did it. The funny thing is either they managed to hold the rally (which happened) OR they got whacked (which would create martyrs), in both circumstances it would work for the right, the only scenario where the left would win, would be the scenario of totally ignoring the rally and it went unreported. But their mental capacity is lacking

Based daddy BTFOs everyone on /pol/:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjfClL6nogo