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>/pol/tards don't realize that Communism would fix the majority of the things they complain about
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Nah, I like having food.
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>>138190944
Like what?
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>>138190944
YEAH I hate not starving!
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>>138190944
You're retarded.
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>>138190944
we're not all obese
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WTF I HATE FOOD NOW
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>>138190944
Yeah, Just ask Venezuela.
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>>138190944
why would i want everyone in my country to be dirt-poor you idiot? that doesnt make any sense
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>>138191016
>>138191096
>>138191128
>>138191188
Devastating critiques, I don't know if Communism will ever recover
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Unironcially this.

>>138191016
Brainwashed simpleton.
>>138191030
Unemployment, class divide, lack of purpose/goal in life
>>138191096
Brainwashed reactionary. Read.
>>138191188
>>138191128
So funny. Brainwashed.
>>138191101
Communism was the greatest thing to happen to your shitholes and you know it.
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>>138190944
I can't help but think finite resources are wasted in shitposts.
I feel guilty contributing.
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>>138191311
>>138191294
who gets to be in charge of the means of production and who gets to mine coal?
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>>138190944
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>>138190944
Did it fix Venezuela?
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Ussr failed, China failed, Cuba failed, North Korea failed, why would i follow something that fails all the time.
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>>138190944
Fucking moron.
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>>138190944
You are right. Overpopulation would not be a problem
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>>138190944
>Leftards don't realise that under a communist regime they'd be first up against the wall
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>>138190944
By sending everyone to a gulag and ending like venezuela.
FUCK OFF you commie bastards
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>>138191311

brainwashed by actual historical occurances?

never mind... brainwashed by who? The mass media openly sides with antifa commies

Your idiotic theory has no price discovery mechanism whatsoever, only idiots could believe it would somehow work

Unemployment is at 4 % moron

My life has an actual purposes: looking after my wife and our child

and the upper class openly sides with you, so what are you even complaining about them?
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>>138191501
>China failed
>Cuba failed
>North Korea failed
How?
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>>138191311
It's not like many people on /pol/ complain about unemployment, class devide etc. People here are obsessed with different problems.
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>>138190944

Considering that corporations pour millions into funding liberal and #punchanazi bullshit, that's true. Especially if Communism killed LGBTBBQ people because they were a strain om the family unit.

I don't want my enemies to starve though.
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>>138191311
>Communism was the greatest thing to happen to your shitholes and you know it.
Another troll thread, move along. If you said something like that in public here you'd be lucky to get home alive.
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>>138191311
>class divide
LMAO
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>>138190944
Ideologically it is better, practically its the equivalent if planning a roadtrip, drivingdown the cliff, and then scream while falling"this isnt the real route, we should try the real route next time!"
Sage
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>>138191587
It became a dictatorship, how is that not a failure if your objective is to make a state where everyone is equall?
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>>138191587

The Great Leap Forward as a failure

North Korea is a prison

and Cuba survives only by oil gifts from Venezuela
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>Socialized anything
>Not immediately rationing supplies

How about you fat fucks socialize your weight
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>>138191601
>If you said something like that in public here you'd be lucky to get home alive.
fucking this

its amazing how the comfy sheltered american millenials are delusional
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>>138190944
>Communism would fix
Yes goyim, all you have to do is submit to allah and cut off your cock.
FUCK OFF
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>>138190944
>ITS A TRUMPNAZI LARPING AS A COMMIE LARPING AS A TRUMPNAZI LARPING AS A COMMIE TRUMPNAZI P....

I just can't anymore.

Good point
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>>138191704
Dictatorship? What do you mean? And which countries?
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>>138191311
>>138191294
Nice damage control.

I wish you two had the chance to live, work and die in actual communist countries, but you clearly haven't since you're in support of it.
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>>138190944
>Communists push increasingly degenerate behavior on society and then offer their totalitarian ideology as a solution to the degeneracy
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>>138191587
Oh boy you walked into that one comrade
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>>138191938
China, cuba, nort korea, ussr/russia
They all became dictatorships retards even if the may didnt call themselves that.
Funfact, the corrupt governments also dont call themselves corrupt
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>>138191989
>in actual communist countries
There's never been any
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Well I know it was basically the worst thing ever every other time they tried it but lets give it a shot!
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>>138191938
Ussr, China, North Korea, Cuba. All of them had dictators. You have Stalin, Maoi and castro. Let me ask you a question how much history have you studied in your life?
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>>138190944
go read the gulag archipelago
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>>138192118
I'll say again.

What exactly do you mean by "dictatorship"
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>>138191311
>Unemployment, class divide, lack of purpose/goal in life
This is it? This is what you want to "fix""???

pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I can only imagine being this pathetic. And this comes at the cost of basic utilities, food and practically everything else that my ancestors have worked for the past 2 500 years. No, thanks 15 year old edgelord.
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>>138190944
If youre talking about the nationalist i-love-shooting-guns-and-arresting-homos kind of communist, then itd solve most social problems (not economic).
But if youre talking about the "queer socialist revolution" type of communism then youre dumber than the idealogy you praise
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>>138192218
Stop playing word games with me. If you want to talk with people talk with them. I am done cya.
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>>138192300
Answer

The

Question

Classcuck
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>>138190944
oh yes /pol/ would love to let the jews who innately hate whitey control every aspect of their lives

first we smash the history, then onto the revolution, field days, and gulags here we come!
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>>138191294
>I don't know if Communism will ever recover
Neither do I, considering it has failed to take hold anywhere even in its more moderate forms and create a functioning society.
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>>138190944
>ISH NOT REAL GOMMUNISM
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>>138190944
Indeed, all the degenerates, fags and niggers would be sent to gulags
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>>138192350
Not an argument ;)
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>>138192218
You are sounding more and more like a shill to make ourselves sound idiotic, therefor you are excommunicated from the party
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>>138192379


>tfw lurking /pol/ on the toilet and see this pic
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>>138191587
China's capitalist in all but name
Venezuela and Cuba are dirt poor
North Korea's a fucking prison populated by robots
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>/pol/ says they hate degeneracy
>still can't divorce themselves from market decadence and recognize the austere glory of a planned economy.
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>>138190944
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>>138192568
So this......is the power..............of Classcuck arguments.............
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>>138190944
Right just look at Russia.
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>hahaha you guys are faggots
>drumf will be impeached!
>Fuck you faggots!
>What are you so angry about?
>You know communism would help.
>How would the alt-right fix any of this?
>What is wrong with Islam?!?
>Why do you hate black people?
>Whats wrong with the jews?
>I'm slowly realizing /pol/ was right
>Maybe republican talks shows arent that bad
>Wow milo and ben are based lol
>Heh you guys have some good memes!
>/r/The_Donald
>Hell yeah Trump is awesome!
>Wow whats wrong with the Jews man
>Fucking blacks in my neighborhood raped a girl again
>Goddamn kikes fucking over the economy again
>1488
>RACE WAR NOW
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>>138190944
>Temporarily fix at the expense of massive long term negatives that vastly outweigh that small period of mediocrity*

I hope I survive long enough to see the revolutionary activists inevitably get hoisted by the authoritarian power structure they facilitated.
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>>138192635
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>>138192655
Good point yeah. Russia turned to shit after the USSR fell and it adopted Capitalism
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>>138190944
Communism can't fix anything.
Especially immigration (communism is open borders, internationality, unrestricted immigration), degeneracy (communism is all about "liberation of woman"), racial tensions (communism always opresses ethnic majority while catering to minorities), economics (commies don't understand economics, they literally keep chanting "Marxism is ompipotent because its right" and just bumping their heads in a wall till heads pop open).
Pretty much all problems /pol/ complains are caused by commies in the first place.
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>>138192449
Stain, Mao, Castro et al
>learn to History
Communism is romantic until the boot stomps your head.
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>>138192379

They're kind of right, Communism has never been tried because you need socialism first and socialist nations are always fucked.
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>>138190944
Still baiting around here my brainless friend?
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>>138190944
I didn't know that communism would end a corrupt, overgrown state infringing on my rights. Why didn't you tell me sooner, comrade?
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>>138192501
Gotta relax and let it flow.
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>>138193035

>marxist ideology
>ancom

Are you retarded on purpose? Oh wait you're a leaf
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>>138192809
>fell to shit after
Russia has always been shit.
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>>138190944
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>>138192833
>unrestricted immigration
>communism is all about "liberation of woman"
>communism always opresses ethnic majority while catering to minorities
Do you mind pointing to what pages in the Communist Manifesto any of this stuff is?
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>>138191294
>Yeltsin, then 58, “roamed the aisles of Randall’s nodding his head in amazement,” wrote Asin. He told his fellow Russians in his entourage that if their people, who often must wait in line for most goods, saw the conditions of U.S. supermarkets, “there would be a revolution.”

>Yeltsin asked customers about what they were buying and how much it cost, later asking the store manager if one needed a special education to manage a store. In the Chronicle photos, you can see him marveling at the produce section, the fresh fish market, and the checkout counter. He looked especially excited about frozen pudding pops.

>“Even the Politburo doesn’t have this choice. Not even Mr. Gorbachev,” he said.

>About a year after the Russian leader left office, a Yeltsin biographer later wrote that on the plane ride to Yeltsin’s next destination, Miami, he was despondent. He couldn’t stop thinking about the plentiful food at the grocery store and what his countrymen had to subsist on in Russia.

>In Yeltsin’s own autobiography, he wrote about the experience at Randall’s, which shattered his view of communism, according to pundits. Two years later, he left the Communist Party and began making reforms to turn the economic tide in Russia.
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>>138190944
Retardewd shit fucker fuck off
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>>138190944
I always cook too much food and end up with way too many leftovers. I just don't know what to do with all this food. Communism would fix that in a heart beat. It is not fair that others go hungry as I portion my leftovers into Tupperware containers.
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>>138193139
>Russia has always been shit.
Damn, imagine getting your ass kicked by shit
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>>138191294
Well, since they got no food, Communism can't recover.
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>>138190944
>Be lazy neet that makes commie threads on 4chan
>Be doctor working 70hr weeks in hospital saving lives
>Our labor is equally valuable to society and therefore we are entitled to the same
Fuck off m8
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>>138193072
dont you see, we HAVE to infringe on your rights in order to make sure everything is "accessible"
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>>138193206
Mongolians were great fighters and they were nomads.
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>>138193248
>Our labor is equally valuable to society and therefore we are entitled to the same
Where does Karl Marx say that?
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>>138193206
Even the finest military can be overwhelmed by a tidal wave of faeces.
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>>138190944
communism kills
when dead, no problems
kinda true
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>>138191311
>class divide
All commie countries are very stratified. There's elite class -- members of ruling party ("Nomenklatura"). They get all benefits, they are exempt from almost all laws, they can do anything.
Then there's class of their guard dogs -- political police. They are well-fed, allowed to abuse their power, showered with praise.
Then there's class of professors and intelligentsia. They get huge wages for keeping masses brainwashed, but are under strict KGB control, because they can't be trusted.
Then there's class of military and police. Officers get extra food, and get their own living space after they proved to be loyal and ate enough shit at party's request. They look very poor compared to KGB or Apparatchiks, but still miles ahead of two lowest classes.
On the bottom there's worker class. Typical norms are 4 families per 40 km^2 apartment and less than 10kg of meat per year per person. Whenever these people dare to ask for something or show slightest sighs of disobeyance, they are machine-gunned without any mercy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk_massacre)
And even further below there's farmers class. Under communist ideology, farmers aren't even human beings. Its just something that grows on its own and provides free food for everyone else. They don't even get passports, they aren't allowed to leave their place of birth, not allowed any education or private property of any kind.
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>>138191294
>I don't know if Communism will ever recover
It won't.
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>>138193163
The mighty Soviet Socialist Republic.
Brought low by a grocery store.
Pure Pottery.
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>>138193395
It's clearly not the finest if it allows itself to get overwhelmed by faeces
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>>138193163
>The story of Viktor Belenko’s defection, and particularly his acclimatization to life in the United States, was told brilliantly in the 1980 biography MiG Pilot by John Barron, which I read years ago and greatly enjoyed. As a (now) high-profile Soviet defector, Belenko thought, during his early days in the USA, that CIA officials arranged things for him to make the United States look good–a supermarket, for example. In a memorable incident recounted in MiG Pilot, Belenko went into a store, was overwhelmed by the vast array of goods for sale, and thought it was sort of a Potemkin village created for his benefit–only to learn later that all stores are like that.

>CIA officials arranged things for him to make the United States look good–a supermarket, for example. In a memorable incident recounted in MiG Pilot, Belenko went into a store, was overwhelmed by the vast array of goods for sale, and thought it was sort of a Potemkin village created for his benefit–only to learn later that all stores are like that.

>thought it was sort of a Potemkin village created for his benefit–only to learn later that all stores are like that.

>all stores are like that.
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>>138193480

How is voluntary labour more absurd than no public spaces, slavery and wage slavery
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>>138190944
Not even true.
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Thanks for the (you)s classcucks

Please bump my other thread too
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>>138191311
what if I just want a white wife and white children, with a plot of land I can homestead on.
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This is now a comball thread.
The commune demands it.
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>>138193648
>>138193648
How is voluntary labour more absurd than no public spaces, slavery and wage slavery
im not a retarded anarchist therefore i support slavery really makes me think
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>>138191587
>>China failed cuba failed
>how?

China 75 million dead under mao

Cuba taxi drivers make more than doctors

North korea everyone starving (even without sanctions)

>inb4 no true scottsmunism
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>>138193569
Are you dense?

Because the wall of fecal matter I'm describing in my analogy is.
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What can communism do for me?
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>>138194134
Nothing except starve you
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Go to Venezuela and give your money and stuff to somebody.
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>>138194134
NO KOMRAD QUESTION IS WHAT CAN YOU SACRIFICE FOR THE KOMMUN
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>>138190944
what the fug I love gommunism now?
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>Be commie larper
>Get btfo and abandon your thread
>mfw
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>>138190944
>Communism would fix the majority of the things they complain about
What, by genociding the vast numbers of poor and ethnic people through starvation, slavery, and straight up execution ?
I'm a socialist btw - I've no use for Communism at all. Read some history and you'll let it go also.
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>>138193163
>>138193625
You see, its not even about abundance -- that too, but not the only reason. Its that you could walk in, pick food yourself, choosing from different brands and checking ingredients, expiry date and so on.
In soviet grocery you walk in, line up in queue, then when its your turn, you beg that gross landwhale across counter to give you something that's not completely rotten. She decides what piece of what you deserve and if you don't like it -- too bad for you, means you are starving tonight.
When supermarkets started pop up in Russia in 1990s, it was like christmas fairytale coming true.
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>>138190944
I like not being worked to death in a gulag or having to eat rats and tree bark to try and stay alive while millions of people around me die of starvation.
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>>138191415
/thread.
Muthafuckahz want to be card carrying party member commissars, implementing the ideals N sheeeeeeeiit without putting in the labor. Most muthafuckahz in the gulags were there on false pretenses.
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>>138190944
Said the communist who have never lived in a communist or a post communist country and was in the safe hands of capitalist countries for his entire life.

Do you understand now why the neo-communists are such a laughing stock in the international community? The only thing they are is useful idiots. The only thing they'll achieve is changing one capitalist overlord for another at the cost of lives, culture and time.
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>>138190944
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>>138194066
>75 million dead under mao
Citation needed

>Cuba taxi drivers make more than doctors
And yet Cuba has one of the highest rates of doctors per capita than most countries in the world. So something must be working

>North korea everyone starving (even without sanctions)
Citation needed
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>>138190944
I fear their brains have been far to defiled by reactionary capitalist clap trap, it really is sad.
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>>138194406
I'm still here. And I haven't seen a single argument against communism in here that wasn't a strawman, so step it up plz
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>>138190944
>/pol/tards don't realize that Communism would fix the majority of the things they complain about
How would a massive famine help? Or should we target minorities, kinda like USSR did with the holodomor?
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>>138198074
Kulaks deserved it though for being classcucks par excellence
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>>138190944
How was Mao so fat if he got the same amount of equal redistribution as everyone else?
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>>138193448
Notice, no fucking response from the comrades. Never talking about the 'New Class'. Red Bourgeois AKA, privatized political power.
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>>138191294
>>138191311
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>>138190944
Not now, not in a thousand years.
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>>138198400
Dumbest question in this entire thread. You have absolutely no clue.
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>>138198275
>classcucks
Is that why commies hate successful people? Because you're all worthless losers?
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>>138197970
the current alternative is much better and we all know it. on paper communism looks like it would work like a perfectly balanced equation if you write it properly. real life doesn't work that way, and many westerners greatly value their freedom, and will gladly defend their freedom from any other narratives that might be pushed publically or even on a central american terrestrial vegetation biodiversity enthuisiast forum.
get fucked commies.
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>>138198813
>Kulaks
>Successful people
Damn, so this is what you people aspire to
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>>138190944
Baittytyyyttttt
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>>138198752
What are you angry about?
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>>138198752
Seems like a perfectly legitimate question. Since you can't answer it I've committed it to memory for reuse.
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>>138198906
>and many westerners greatly value their freedom
There can be no freedom, under Capitalism. Democracy and Capitalism are inherently contradictory ideals.
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The soviet union failed because communism necessarily has to compete with capitalism and can't.

All the deaths all the warfare and famine was utterly pointless because communism can't compete.
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>>138199025
Why are they contradictory?
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>>138198910
C'mon man commies are all worthless losers who can't run a society, as the history of communism proves. Stop this alt-left larping
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>>138199180
In a society that is divided by class there will inevitably be an economic elite that has an overwhelming control on the distribution of information and an economic lower class that is inevitably less educated, less capable of making political decisions, and much more susceptible to manipulation by the elite class that controls most of the media who can get them to vote against their interests.
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>>138191294
If communism is aborted in time, malnutrition can be reversed with a rich, high calorie diet. So yeah, it can recover.

Works even if you're not a member of the politburo.
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>>138199498
You don't believe in IQ do you?
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>>138199498
>blah blah
Great. Now offer a solution that doesn't involve the state murdering 100million of its own people.
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Commies = worthless animals fit only for slaughter
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>>138199025
good thing westerners have a rather ideal balance of capitalism and democracy, if you want to word it that way. nice b8's.
>no freedom under capitalism
again, arguably much more freedom in most circumstances than the alternative. your questions have been answered, and your ideals are forever btfo now stfu.
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>>138199696
>westerners have a rather ideal balance of capitalism and democracy
Lmao
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>>138190944
Would communism fix the issue with islamic terrorism?

Or would we be trading one killer for another when we starve to death for not meeting our production quotas?
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>>138190944
dont you dare use only fools and horses for your retarded commie shit
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>>138199845
No religion = No religious terrorism
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>>138200212
Fuck off you classcuck tart heheheheheh
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>>138198752
>mfw Mao Zedong was literally the top 1% of China but that doesn't matter because the rest of the Nation got their equal distribution of starvation
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>>138200213
>no religion
Except for state and leader worship
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>>138199828
>>138200213
>>138200359
Worthless kek with no arguments. Into the trash you go.
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>>138200213
"Wreckers' killed = no complaints to be heard
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>>138190944
Daily reminder that real national socialism and fascism have never been tried.
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>>138190944
fuck communists, fuck christians and zionists also
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>>138195388
Did the USSR ever resort to eating zoo animals like modern day Venezuela?
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>>138190944
Nah, I like having food.
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>>138203857
Also you know I like to be able to criticize the government without being sent to a labor camp.
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>>138190944
>/pol/tards don't realize that Communism would fix the majority of the things they complain about
Nice proofs there. This will certainly help TT with material for a rational discussion.

Saged
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>>138203688
During wartime and famines even human corpses were used as food. After WW2 -- no, you'd get arrested if you tried to assault zoo even if you was starving.
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>>138191016
>>138191096
You'll have HIS food too!
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>>138204997
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>>138198074
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>>138199498
I'd rather have the mutable class structure that exists under capitalism than
>>138193448
this
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>>138190944
it would fix obesity at least
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>>138205936
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>>138190944
SPICY thread OP
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>>138206507
beautiful
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>>138191016
fpbp
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>>138190944
When automation is in full effect maybe.
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>>138191311
>Unemployment, class divide, lack of purpose/goal in life
these arent even problems unless you are a fucking pleb
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>>138190944
I'll go with nazism,thank you. At least I'm choosing this and not forced by the government into being a weakling that can easily be thrown in a goolag.
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>>138209094
Cuck
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>>138190944
hard to focus on your problems when everything becomes a problem.
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Well yeah and drinking bleach would "fix" the cancer in my body.
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>>138190944
>pro-communist post
>depicting the most capitalist character in British fiction

No.
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>>138211540
No it wouldn't. But you're free to try
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>>138191016
fpbp
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>>138190944
>when you murder people they no longer have to worry about anything
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>>138213613
Capitalism with a human face
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>>138191016
Fpbp.
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>>138190944
>starving to death would solve all my problems
True, but I'd be dead
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>>138214021
>>138191016
USSR had higher caloric consumption than the US. They also have better sex. Enjoy your wage slavery.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
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>>138214316
Archive time
https://archive.is/cgJtE
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>>138214316
>USSR had higher caloric consumption than the US
Bullshit.
Anyone who actually lived in USSR will tell you that it was nearly impossible to get any food other than bread and occasional dairy.
Just because you commietards made up some numbers in Moscow it doesn't mean worker class didn't keep rioting due to literal artificial famines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk_massacre
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>>138214669
>muh anecdotes
>>
so no more blacks?
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>>138213894
They were rich socialites. People kill themselves for plenty of reasons but it's not evidence of anything. A handful of examples of shitty situations in a country of 300 million is no rationale for throwing the whole system away. Why is it that every socialist/communist country had massive purges and re-education camps, and had shit standard of living, and none of those countries are still around.how can you want that? Communism is such a shitty project and only immature brainlets who have no one depending on them and aren't working will sit around and larp about socialism
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>>138214808
Yeah, man, keep telling yourself that all video, photo and documents are fabricated by muh ebil capitalists. Bread lines never happened, starved workers never revolted, USSR never crumbled apart.

Picrelated: typical bread queue in USSR. Less than half of these people would manage to buy anything at all, others will be told to go home starving because "out of stock".
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>>138190944
Communism would get rid of communists?
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>>138215265
>Rich societies
6 of out 10 people have less than 500 dollars in savings

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/pf/americans-lack-of-savings/index.html
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>>138215693
>m u h a n e c d o t e s
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>>138215837
Actually, yes. Nobody else killed as much commies as commies themselves. Plus getting a taste of communism is best guarantee from it ever becoming serious political force again.

>>138216110
> muh denial
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>>138215693
That picture is dated 1991, during the collapse of the USSR. Now more people are in poverty abusing drugs in capitalist Russia than the USSR. All your arguments against USSR proper have to deal with the transitional phase.
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Communism won't fix anything. As a matter of fact, communists have manufactured most of the problems that we as a society face for the sake of pimping communism as our savior. Communism is about reducing everyone to the lowest common denominator so that the stupid, lazy, and incapable people of our society enjoy a higher self worth than what they really are worth. Communism is driving people like my best friend, and godfather of my children, out of his industry to practice on his own, privately, doing house calls for cash which negatively effects our economy. Communism forces employers like myself to pay employees lower wages because half of my profits go to those that refuse to do anything via taxes while a significant portion of the other half goes to everyone else sitting there with their hands out. Communism is about silencing free speech and eliminating that that think and speak freely.

The problem with communists is that they cannot distinguish the difference between some feel-good idea between the reality that is the world we live in. In a sense, communism is much like our society today; it is based on the premise that there is no evil, no selfishness, and no individual responsibility. The reality is that equality plays no role in the world we live in. A mechanical failure in an airplane has no fucks to give about you and your equality. A tornado laughs at the fact that you think it's not fair when it rips through your neighborhood and destroys your livelihood. The mountain lion or grizzly bear has no fucks to give about your so called right to exist.

Communism has never worked or been implemented properly for good reason, and that good reason is because that communism refuses to accept that communists will always be self serving people that have zero interest in the betterment of mankind and their interests. Why do you think China, which is probably the only true communist society the world has ever seen, has embraced capitalism.

fuck commies
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>>138190944
Nah that's your fave when you are a legitimate retard for not understanding history. Communism works on paper but when you add greedy ass humans then they fuck it up. If you can't see this you're either trolling or blind but continue by all means you fucking retard. Lol.
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>>138216449
But that's

Not

Real

Communism
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>>138216362
Call me isn't that you guys are led by a fucking corrupt asshole what are you talking about? You infer fucking retarded points like that and prove why communism is garbage. Putting retards in charge is fucking stupid you nigger.
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>>138190944
Hello fellow traveller.

Much of /pol/ still wants to work for a corporation that detests them and detests borders.
They don't want to work in brotherhoods with their neighbours; work shaped around the community.

As they get older they will see the sense. It literally hasn't occurred to them that they don't HAVE to spend most of their day as an individual working for a faceless corp.
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>>138216449
>Communism is about reducing everyone to the lowest common denominator so that the stupid, lazy, and incapable people of our society enjoy a higher self worth than what they really are worth.
1. Who are you to determine the worth of a human?
2. Like capitalism doesn't dumb every fucking thing down already in order to increase sales. Our art and media will continue to degrade under capitalism because it doesn't care a fucking fig about quality, only quantity sold.
>Communism is driving people like my best friend, and godfather of my children, out of his industry to practice on his own, privately, doing house calls for cash which negatively effects our economy.
Yet another effect of capitalism.
>Communism forces employers like myself to pay employees lower wages because half of my profits go to those that refuse to do anything via taxes while a significant portion of the other half goes to everyone else sitting there with their hands out.
Maybe you should stop being a selfish cunt, then, and spread some of your wealth to your hard workers.
>Communism is about silencing free speech and eliminating that that think and speak freely.
You just want to call people niggers and not get hit in your pussy mouth for it, admit it.

Communism deals with the material. I understand that the world is not a utopia or pure and that communism will not magically make the world perfect, but I understand that capitalism is inherently unsustainable and needs to be replaced with a better system.
>>
Communism only works if you have nothing. If you have something - it instantly fails.
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>>138217231
>capitalism is inherently unsustainable and needs to be replaced with a better system
Capitalism: doing well for 400 years already
Communism: lasted only 70 years longest, with most other attempts not even making it to 20 years.
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>communism
>del boy
Really shortens by strings
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>>138210822
No, no see, what he described was the opposite of being a cuck.
>>
>>138190944
Yes. Starving to death tends to resolve all of one's problems nicely.
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>>138218305
>Openly choosing to be a cuck
>Not being a cuck
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>>138216060
6 out of 10 people are shitskins you stupid little white boy.
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>>138190944
OP you plonker.
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>>138216362
wait so communism has been tried before
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Is this the reason antifa are all skinny manlets?
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>>138190944
Bitcoins and the eventual change of the money supply will be b the answer
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>>138219724
>Technology
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>>138199498
>In a society that is divided by class there will inevitably be an economic elite that has an overwhelming control on the distribution of information and an economic lower class that is inevitably less educated, less capable of making political decisions, and much more susceptible to manipulation by the elite class that controls most of the media who can get them to vote against their interests.

Funny , you just described communism .
>>
>>138190944

Nah, I never complain about having too much money and food
>>
>>138220048
First breadlines too.
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>>138220048
>cracker commie faggot thinks outer space is real
lol no surprise that youre a scifi obsessed retard. your kind tends to be the worst kind of consumerist.
>>
>>138220190
>>
>>138190944
you have to be sub retard tier iq to take communism seriously at this point.
>>
>>138214316
Well if the prestigious (((New York Times))) said it in (((2017))), it must hold water.
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>>138190944
>>138190944
>>138190944
fuck you commie
NEXT RIGHT WING RALLY HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED

FLORIDA HERE WE COME

thread here
>>138215412
>>138215412
>>138215412
>>138215412
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>>138220048
>>Technology

And a better system of concentration camps that was more efficient than the nazis .
You know ... the gulags .
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>>138220428
wow... niggers cant feed themselves...

try a real argument or go away, these threads are dreadful. you white boy communists seem to be incapable of posting anything of interest.
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>>138220190
>>138220276
>>138220581
>Classcuck gets proved wrong
>Strawmans
Imagine my shock...........
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>>138220048
CCCP was a pedophile's paradise
This is a fact
The west has leftism and has become a pedophile's paradise
Btw most republicans are leftist by my standards
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>>138220694
>you white boy communists seem to be incapable of posting anything of interest.
What do you have against white people?
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>>138220701
>Imagine my shock...........

About what ? The truth about the gulag system ?
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>>138220428
>Economic downturn that lasted less than a decade
Meanwhile in 1950s America...
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>>138220777
>What do you have against white people?

You should have asked him .
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>>138221139
The prosperity of 1950's America was thanks to the state interventionist economic policies of the US economy introduced by FDR

So in a way. That wasn't thanks to Capitalism ;)
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>>138221605
Care to explain why such prosperity has continued all the way up until the current year? Long after FDR's policies were discontinued.
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Gee ... look at all those concentration camps .
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>>138190944
Unfortunately, according to marx you're apart of the bourgeois, there fore commisar tyrone and commisar cletus are going to force you to take 10 homeless people into your house and if you dont accept them they are going to stick you in the gulag or just shoot you in the back of the head for not being a dedicated enough commie.

This shit just doesn't work no matter how the fuck you try to make it work.
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Communist or Nazis ..... Two sides of the same coin .
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>>138222039
>why such prosperity has continued all the way up until the current year
It hasn't
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>>138190944
Like starvation?
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>>138220777
stupid enough to become communists.
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Care to explain comrade ?
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>>138222300
>>138222300
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>>138222507
Why do you think white people are stupid?
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>>138222314
Oh of course, that's why us filthy Westerners have to stand in city blocks long lines for a loaf of bread.
Face it Pinko, your corrupt, anti-white economic system will never work. ;)
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>>138190944
I complain about high taxes and gun control?

Will communism lower my taxes and reduce gun control?
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>>138222811
Wow. You didn't even confront the fact that wages have barely increased relative to gdp since then and just strawmanned about bread lines again.

It's almost as if you can't accept the fact that you're wrong.........
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>>138190944
Fuck you, my previous boss lived under the soviet union and would only complain about how much worse it was there. you're a fucking moron.
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>>138220048
all to fight a arms race that they could never hope to beat while most of the population starved
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>>138190944
such as?
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>>138223220
Here's a graph from the European Commission showing wage growth you whiny Death cultist.
Notice how much wages have shot up in formerly communist nations? Really makes you think.
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>>138222708
stupid is relative.
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>>138223784
If wages rise prices rise. That graph means nothing and I'm not even communist.
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>>138190944
No thanks, I like eating food
>>
Nah, I'm good. I actually like to have food.
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>>138223784
>Europa
We were talking about America friendo :)
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>>138191016
fpbp
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