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>A year of propaganda, criminalization, and skulduggery cleared the way for this final push, which handed the Italian government’s right wing control of international and Libyan waters. This Mediterranean coup has pushed humanitarian organizations out and empowered the Libyan militia. We can already see the disastrous results: whereas over five thousand people arrived in the first week of August 2016, only one thousand people have made it to Italy so far this month. There have been no landings for over a week. Zero boats.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/fortress-europe-italy-migrant-deportation

How can Italians be so fascistic?
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>>138163150
Archive please https://unvis.it/jacobinmag.com/2017/08/fortress-europe-italy-migrant-deportation
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The italians sold out the germans, then proceeded to make cars that do nothing but break down for the next 60 years.
If that doesnt make them inferior i dont know what would...
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>>138163609
Germany should not be allowed to exist.
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>>138163813
Can you imagine how different things would have been if Germany had gotten nuked too?
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>>138163150
Wow finally some good news.
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mad snow nigger?
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>>138163150
Italians always betray Germany. If anything it's a sign germany is about to lose
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>>138163150
>Right wing government

It's the most leftist government in decades
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>>138168881
No it's a right wing gov that dress as centerleft (social and economics policies).

The main problem it's their globalist agenda.
Luckily they're so incompetent they failed to hypnotise italians with the "good mass immigration" mantra.
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>>138169167
Spot the shill
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>>138169167
>Right wing
>Ban Mussolini memorabilia for literally no reason
>Trying to approve ius soli
>The minister of education is a renown commietard
>Too cucked to speak up, use Boeri as a government spokesman

At least Minniti managed to straighten the things up with the NGOs
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>>138170016
There's one Italian leftcuck that is pro Democrats (the Italian ones, exact equivalent of the US ones).

It's probably him. A total cuck.
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Yesterday someone posted an article where it said German government warned Libya not to stop ONGs boats.

So Germany is trying to destroy Europe for real?
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>>138170166
The only reason Minniti did it is that we have elections next year and PD is crashing.
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>>138169167
Dude, Minniti is literally a commie!
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reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H33lQu0t8Ow
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>>138170336
Careful, she might sue you!
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>>138163150
>Disastrous

They sound fucking splendid to me
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>>138164102
germans are subhumans and the only reason why europe prospered on the continent was the result of over half a millenium of british trade interference breaking up german principalities keeping the autistic scatophiles from consolidating their destructive energies

unified germany must be destroyed at all costs if europe is to survive in any future
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>>138170336
The definition of brain dead, I was shocked the first time I saw the original video.
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>>138163150
>which handed the Italian government’s right wing control of international and Libyan waters
>Italian government’s right wing control
>right wing
Oh, I wasn't aware we had such thing.
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>>138170336
do you have the original of the ass wiping video? where was this
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>>138170982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqPXM-n2NvA
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>>138163609
>then proceeded to make cars that do nothing but break down for the next 60 years.
we are not general motors
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>>138163609
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>>138163150
shit post
italians are turbocucks and about as "fascist" as my farts
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>>138163150
>italian girl
Hey OP, how about you stay true to your suicide rate?
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>>138171303
>we are not general motors
yes we know you have shit for industry.
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>>138163150
>government’s right wing
Our whole goverment is an EU stooge filled with communists, the left have been in complete control since 2011. Fuck why am I even respomding to such a shit article?
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>>138163150
>Italian girl.jpg
kys. Monkeys are not Italian
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>>138171499
You don't need to prove your ignorance, we already know from looking at your flag
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>>138163150

FRATELLI D'ITALIA
L'ITALIA S'È DESTA
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>>138163150
>Italian girl.jpg
Fuck off nigger mongrel claiming her granded was Sicilian. Pic related Italian average.
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>>138171267
thanks
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>>138171267
what the fuck does he really take a drink in-between and after ass wipes

holy shit
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>>138163609
I never got this meme.
The only brands of cars that Italy exports intercontinentally are luxury models, which require nothing more but the maintenance that any high end car requires, on top of a tighter gear control.

Dumb, nuveau-rich ostentators buy them just so they can say "Honhonhon, look at my Italian car", they drive it like it's an automatic, they have no money to hire a mechanic or no drive to do maintenance themselves, then when it breaks down they fault the car instead of their own retardation.
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>>138171993
Are you even surprised by it?
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Good to hear. I still hear people saying that migrants are "risking their lives to cross the ocean" when they really just take a boat out 25 miles and then get picked up by a passenger ship. Hopefully this is the first step to getting all the NGO water taxis kicked out of Italy.
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>>138171724
Wow! How did you do that? You took my argument and you just turned it around and made me look like a total chump. Fuck me you Italians are smart. I'll back off now.
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>>138172257
To be fair, your argument was just stereotyping on par with "All burgers are fat"
The "Italian cars are bad" meme is just borne out of the average buyers having no business stepping inside of an Italian car, when they've driven cheap automatics their whole lives
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>>138170166 >>138170264
>Minniti

pic related, jesus fucking christ. has someone looked more jewish in the history of existence?
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>Italian cars are bad
Nice meme.
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>>138172492
I'm not the burger that was arguing about Italian cars. I was just being a latefag burger shart to the thread and claiming you have no industry on par with the US. I think your sports cars are great but it's not like I'm going to order one anytime soon.
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>>138163150
I thought Italy's government was a EU puppet doing whatever Merkel wanted to allow Africans into Europe.


Thank God they are finally resisting effectively.

If only Italy had started paying Libyan militia sooner.
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>>138172672
old guineas look jewish to the uninformed
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>>138168881

You are either not italian or too young to remember old governments.
Monti letta and renzi where all globalists pro europe centrists.
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>>138172678
I wonder what the next Panda/500 is going to be
It has a 90% chance of being anyone's first car because its price is in the three digits and EVERYONE has had one, but that's only because it's old and there's a billion of them around.
In 10 years, what will the youth drive?

>>138172798
>you have no industry on par with the US
Well, that's a bit unfair, isn't it?
It'd be like if Italy wanted to act big by claiming that Switzerland has no industry on par with theirs.
It's true, but it's not indicative of anything aside country size.
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>>138172798
>grovelling self loathing american
>sucking up to eurofag

kill yourself, queer
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>>138172960
Punish me daddy.
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>>138172678
I never understood it. I have an old as fuck Panda that my father used to drive. it's more than 15 years old and never gave me a problem, aside from having to change brake pads (I think that's how pastiglie dei freni are called in English) and battery (only once) + the usual stuff like oil, etc. Never even had to get the clutch fixed unlike with all other cars my family owned (Toyota, Renault, WV)
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>>138172840
Berlusconi had actually come to an agreement with gheddafi.
Shortly after the (((USA))) decided it was time to for some freedom
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>>138172840
The thing about Italy is that we're one of the most backwards and stuck in the past countries in the civilized sphere.
So while we might be part of unions like the EU, have trades with everyone, and pretty much act like a country in 2017, everyone is still stuck in the war mentality (including people who were born 50 years after it), causing a pretty much neverending wave of xenophobia and nationalism that has never abated since the creation of the whole mess.

We have all the benefits of living in the present, with all the benefits of a mid-50s closed off mentality.
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Love you fucking pastaniggers, keep it up.
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>>138170016
>>138170166
>>138170178


You are probably too young to have witnessed real left government, this government, the ex-renzi government posed as ideologically social left but in reality acted as pro-eu globalists crap.
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Who esa this
Demonia Semena?
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>>138163150
Italians are pretty similar to jews in how they operate
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>>138170208

Yes they say sending people back to lybia violates human rights, apparently they would like to keep this going, really makes you think huh.
But never have i have heard them complaining about the human trafficking gangs in all africa bribing their way to lybia.
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Thats a negress not italian
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>>138173178
Why is your country cozying up to Putin, making figures of him in farm fields ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/04/italian-farmer-turns-field-vladimir-putin-portrait-ahead-g20/ ) and setting up monuments to Russian soldiers who fell in Syria etc...

What a bunch of phaggots, we're supposed to be in a sanctions war with them ffs. Italy always the traitor
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>>138173360
Absolutely not.
Jews do from behind the scenes and being exposed often means the end for them.
We do it in broad daylight and just don't give a fuck about what other faggot countries think.
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>>138173593
>hating on based vlad
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>>138170336
Litteral far left nigger loving cunt.
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>>138173360
nah they're less perverted, less malicious, dumber, less cunning, and above all less talmudic in their communication
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>>138173593
Because Putin is basically a fascist dictator and we have a huge hardon for fascism.
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>>138173747
>nah they're less perverted, less malicious, dumber, less cunning, and above all less talmudic in their communication
pretty much
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>>138163150
>disastrous results

if this is a disaster i want to see apocalyptic results
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>>138163150
>There have been no landings for over a week. Zero boats.

Wait they actually got to work?
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>>138173095
It wasnt the usa it was the UK and FRANCE who pressed the usa and the security council members to approve for an attack.
All the niggers that drowned the rape and the killing of migrants its all france and uk fault, just to make things clear.
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>>138173814
>Fascist dictator

Bruh, it's all propaganda, Putin is just keeping the Oligarchs' business running without getting in the mid 90s troubles.
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>>138174056
>Wait they actually got to work?
>MSF stopped
>Save the children stopped
>other NGO stopped
who do you think is ferrying these people nigga. As soon as we imposed them to have an italian police officer on board the all bailed, it sure activates your wallnuts
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>>138174067
>It wasnt the usa
You do know that Gheddafi was on US kill list since decades?
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>>138174238
>As soon as we imposed them to have an italian police officer on board the all bailed,
Even crazier if you consider that the officer would've probably been a terrone (since all the relevant ports are in the south) and they could've bribed him extremely easily.
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>>138173587
Miriam a cute
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>>138174238
well done gents, took you guys long enough though
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>>138174494
All it took was for the genera election date to approach. Italian politicians do crazy shit to be re-elected, including denying their ideology entirely to pander to the largest voter base. Frankly I would not be surprised if in the next months, even diehard bleeding hearth commies start advocating for more deportations.
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>"The radical Catholics in Italy have provided the most direct and long-term support to arriving migrants, but their approach of extending charity rather than creating solidarity often inadvertently contributes to dehumanization."

Christcucks at it again. Every. Damn. Time.
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>>138163150
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>>138163813
>>138164102
>>138170787

Honestly, Germans should have been exterminated after WW2.
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>>138174875
dem fee fees
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>>138163150
>results: whereas over five thousand people arrived in the first week of August 2016, only one thousand people have made it to Italy so far this month. There have been no landings for over a week. Zero boats

Based Italy!
Mama mia!
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>>138163150
>Italian government’s right wing
There are no right wingers in the government to this day.
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>>138175140
Alfano, actually.
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>>138175051
>>>/reddit/
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>>138175330
m8...
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>>138175330
>Alfano
>right wing
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>>138175330
>right wing
>leaves the right wing coalition to govern with the center-left one.
Yeah, no.
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>>138175524
>>138175547
He's right.
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>>138171267
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>>138175524
>>138175547
>>138175591
He is from a right wing party. The fact that he supports the PD at the moment has nothing to do with his political "ideology" (if he has any).

Also he is the one who sunk the Ius Soli in Senate.
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>>138163184
How was your vacation?
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>>138175704
Everything is always the same
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>>138174760
Did u get stabbed by christians , raikonnen ?
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>>138175593
>>138175688
We all know that he and his party are the new UDC, which is the old new DC.
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>>138175873
>We all know that he and his party are the new UDC, which is the old new DC.
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>>138170208
The best eight million Germans died fighting in ww2, the landser that was left poorly provisioned at the front once the cowards supplying them in the rear stole all the best supplies who would have stopped Germanys slide into degeneracy. We're to blame too for occupying and promoting their weaknesses as strength and allowing the sub-Germans to breed the future generations. So are Italians for not providing enough support to strengthen their flanks at Stalingrad.

Then again, scratch that, its ingrained for them to destroy Europeans.
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>>138170016
Shilling for what, faggot?
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>>138170166
How is the Jus Solis thing going?
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>>138176321
Indefinite hiatus.
Globalist-liberist gov fears to lose elections because of it.
They still use it to claim everyone who don't agree is racist.
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>>138173271
>but in reality acted as pro-eu globalists crap
So.. leftist?
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>>138163813
>>138164102
Well, maybe you all should have listened when we told you to get your Jews on the fucking train instead of crying around like little bitches.
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>>138163150
Who's that pretty girl, anon? Just asking for a friend.
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>>138163150
>The consequences will be painful, even fatal, for those African and Asian workers and families trying to create a better future in Europe.

Werent they syrian refugee women and children fleeing ISIS?
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>>138175593
>>138175688
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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>>138174313
I bet lots of living people are on that listl.
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>>138177198
>Werent they syrian refugee women and children fleeing ISIS?
Syrian refugee are not trendy anymore.
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>>138176779
Maybe you should have take care of the jews instead of allying with communists and attacking our allies.
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>Italians arguing about whether or not someone's left or right
>When everyone has the same politics
>And everyone just homogenizes into the same leaning at election time

It's amazing how politics can spur the most meaningless of discussions
Who the fuck CARES if someone's "Left" or "Right"
With the way Italian politics work, with waiting times in the aeons and compromise being the only way you can do anything, it wouldn't matter if we literally elected the communist party

Why the fuck are you screeching like retards to insist that someone's "Right" "No, left!" "No, REEEE" when it doesn't even fucking matter
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>>138173747
>dumber
have jews ever created an empire?
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>>138177666
Yes, it's called Planet Earth
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>>138163150
Congrats Pastabros.

FIVE THOUSAND PEOPLE A WEEK.
How can anyone think that is a good situation to be in?
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>>138177652
t. pasquale esposito
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>>138177666
>have jews ever created an empire?
The USA.
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>>138177894
I said created, not infiltrated
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>>138177652
You have to call things with their names.
Right wing stuff is right wing, bad or good.
Same for the left.
Same for globalist and sovranist.
Stop the true scotman fallacy of
>I'm right wing, so anybody that I don't like cannot be true right wing, nor anybody who does not enter into my superspecial definition of right wing.
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>>138163150
Simple. These men and women wish to protect their homes, their friends, their families and their own way of life. The migrants threaten everything they have made of their part of the world! Fuck that, hell no.
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>>138178065
>Stop the true scotman fallacy
I'm not doing that, I'm just saying that it's meaningless to be so anal about the label you want to give a politician, when all of them are going to have politics that lean heavily both sides.
It's fine to consider candidates left or right, but getting too passionate about it when it matters so little is just silly
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>>138178255
>I'm just saying that it's meaningless to be so anal about the label you want to give a politician, when all of them are going to have politics that lean heavily both sides.
Not really, It has happened to be the case in the past couple elections because there was never a clear majority in the parliament
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>>138163150
This is now a Pasta bro appreciation thread.
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>>138173220
Who is this tutti frutti?
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>>138178255
On that I can agree. While I contest to you that traditional left is dead, so "lean heavily on both sides" is at least wrong for one reason.
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>>138178038
british empire
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>>138174875
damn, its been a while since I've seen a pepe worth saving
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>>138178587
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>>138178587
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>>138179774
based neighbours
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>>138178612
wish I knew, only find a bunch of hair blogs when I try
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>>138179774
Those Syrians look very tanned
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>>138180098
I agree
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>>138180191
Fukken saved, post Italian pepes
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>>138179774

>All blacks
>'syrian'
Wtf
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>>138179774
>Call Malta
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>>138163184
You have been sorely missed. Where have you been?
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>>138180338
>tfw no salvini pepe
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>>138180338
I don't have many, pastabro.
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>>138174890
WW1*
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>>138180535
>falling for the salvini meme
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>>138174875
that one is well old
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>>138163150
Look, Finnbro.
We tried to "share" power and involve other country in the decision-making process.

Unfortunately, all of you Norcucks are so brainwashed you reacted by downsizing all deportation efforts.
>Mare Nostrum
Downsized to
>Triton
Ten times the participating countries, one third the budget of Mare Nostrum

I believe Norcucks have absolutely no idea what it means to have migrants landing on your coasts.
You just shrug your shoulders and say
>but isn't diversity a resource?
Resource my ass.

I came to think the cultural differences between Mediterraneans and Norcucks are so dramatic it is unlikely Norcucks will ever understand how to manage things.

t. Italian
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>>138180635
>https://www.loccidentale.it/articoli/141704/immigrati-salvini-tentato-genocidio-e-sostituzione-etnica-in-corso
>http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/politica/2017/02/18/migranti-salvini-pulizia-di-massa_38d0c829-7431-4ddb-8b06-da1fb7f7ff62.html
I'd say bretty gud/10.
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>>138180338
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>>138180514
Not sure, I only remember one detail
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>>138163150
>catholic flag
>how can catholic idalians be so fashigistsic

its called religion
and it poisons everything it touches
the vatican has no problem with murder
or oppression in any form, including faggoty ones
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>>138180338
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>>138181279
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>>138181308
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>>138163184
Jacobinmag is solid, why take revenue away from them?
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>>138181308
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>>138181415
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>>138181417
Er du serios
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>>138180982
>lot of talking and no doing
Who signed Dublin Regulation?
Who stole big money from Italian taxpayers?
Lega Nord.
I'm sorry but you're putting your hopes in the wrong people.
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>>138181472
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>>138173178
>nationalism
>xenophobia
>bad
Enjoy your niggers dumbass
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>>138173178
Oh hey there faggot! How is the weather in Bofogna today?
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>>138181799
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>>138181767
its hot and humid i hate this shithole
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>>138173178
Italy has some remains of this weird latin macho culture that is both hilarious and scary at the same time. I think that is what keeps you safe. Also your obsession with your women, the easiest way to turn italy crazy if some italian girl gets attacked.
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>>138180894
You could just give them all a ticket to Germany. It's win-win-win.
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>>138164102
Nothing, cockroaches survive radiations
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>>138173649
>don't give a fuck about what other faggot countries think.
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>>138182435
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>Fascistic

Actually the ruling party is a center-left one OP.
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>>138182435
>>138182656
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>>138182746

Look at me, I'm asian now.
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>>138182656
it'll be coming to you soon, luigi. probably a lot sooner than you think
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>>138181489

Who are the "right" people let's hear.
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>>138183235
>Who are the "right" people let's hear.
Where in my post I talked about "right people"?
Can you read?
Or are you a controlled opposition apologist?
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>>138183064
Except that it won't, as we like to stop sandniggers BEFORE they commit crimes, and not after, when we are certain that public opinion won't perceive it as racism.
We give zero fucks about due process and human rights when subhuman mudshites and their criminal antics are involved.
The last faggots we nabbed in venice, who basically where just guilty of larping on facebook, are still in jail while awaiting trial (there is no such thing as bail in our country) and will probably remain there for a good portion of their life.
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>>138183406

then you're a non-voting cuck?
>>
Based Italians
>tfw no qt Sicilian gf
how can I go on?
>>
>>138171315
Kind of true though. At least til around 1500. Still true concerning rapefugees. Empirical science and the industrial revolution, basically the foundation of todays material wealth and technological advancement, are entirely nordic inventions though. Particularly England, Germany and France are to be thanked for this. (France being sort of in between the North and the South culturally speaking).

Also, I don´t get all the Euro hate for Germany. Did we destroy Europe? Yes but so did Russia (Commies), France (Napoleon) and even Hungary (Magyar Hordes) among many others. Does our insane government push for ((their)) globalist agenda right now? Yes but so does every single fucking western country. What about the US starting all these pointless wars in the Middle East initiating the tsunami of mudslimes? The question isn´t "why is Hans always destroying Europe", the question must be "why is hans always blamed for destroying Europe". You know full well that normie Hans is just as gullible as normie Pete, Pierre, Petro and Luigi.
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>>138183615
Where did I wrote that?
Maybe trying to change the topic is a piddino trick I have learned to notice that?
Mhm?
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>>138183846

fuck off grillino, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>138177593
Oh you mean like we peacefully did and no one, including your country, took them?
Everyone turned their back on taking the Jews but talk shit about Germans.
The only reason you attacked germany is because you're run by them, disillusioned by fake promises of taking over arab oil.
Look where that got you today.
>>
VOLAGs are businesses that make money from moving and handling refugees.

https://vid.me/rrOIW
https://capitalresearch.org/article/refugee-resettlement-the-lucrative-business-of-serving-immigrants/
https://unvis.it/capitalresearch.org/article/refugee-resettlement-the-lucrative-business-of-serving-immigrants
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>>138184007
>boo wooo the m5s!
Obviously. After 20 years of gettin conned by Lega Nord thieves, you still think a non-party younger than bottle of wine it's the problem.
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"The consequences will be painful, even fatal, for those African and Asian workers and families trying to create a better future in Europe." -Richard Brodie is a translator and anti-racist organiser in Palermo, Italy.

LOL

Well fuck you Richard Brodie (fucking american) and african and asian families. Europe is not an immigration continent. FUCK OFF.

I am sick and tired of americans who think they have a say in european politics. We are not America! We are ethno states and we want to stay this way.
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>>138171849

So sad to see. For 30 centuries Italian women have looked like that. And in the next century they are going to be repalced by Africans and Asians.
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>>138184659

Of course they're a problem, grillini should be gassed. They're worse than PD.
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>>138183729

What a beauty she is. And a reminder of what is at stake - the likes of Merkel want such women replaced by Asians and Africans.
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>>138185189
>that image
Why are you spreading fake news?

What's you problem with m5s? Do you fear your masters won''t be able to steal anymore?
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>>138185340

>fake news

Literally from his Blog.
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>>138185433
Then go link his blog faggot, not fake news.

>appendino is bad because he had to deal with niggers.
What should she do, anon? It should be feasible with the current laws.
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I swear to god if any of you fuckers vote 5 stalle in the next election I'm going to make le fosse ardeatine look like a fucking joke
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>>138185628

(è un estratto dal video-messaggio di fine anno che postò sul blog che cazzo di devo linkare?)

>implying shes not a sjw
>implying m5s are not a bunch of leftists that need to be gassed

how deluded are you?
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We should kill all the gypsy on sight
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>>138185628
5 S T A L L E
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>>138186248
and niggers
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>>138181415
Fare
Italia
Grande
Ancora
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>>138186603
ITALIA AGLI ITALIANI!
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>>138163150
>right wing control

literally just 'anything bad=right wing' journalism hahahahaha
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>>138185949
ma le robe di fine anno di solito sono sarcastiche imbecille!
link up or shut up, fake news!

>who doesn't think like me is sjw/cuck
>forgetting m5s were the firsts to warn about the ONG-smugglers collusions
How stupid are you?
If they are such cucks, why piddinis spend their time shouting "fascists" at them?
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>>138163184
Our hero hath returned!
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Meanwhile (((THEY))) are hungry for fresh money

I gave a look at all these 5 stars reviews and I almost had an aneurysm
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>>138186248
>>138186248
>We should kill all the gypsy on sight

We should have done this in the 1940s, yet unfortunately we focused primarily on the Jews and partially ignored the gypsies. They have been multiplying like rats since then.
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>>138172048
Italian machinery is wasted on the plebs without the engineering mind to appreciate it.
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>>138179774
>""""""""Syrian refugees""""""""

Syria in the Benghazi province.
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>>138180894
>that haircut
>that hairline
>that """""""""beard""""""""""
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>>138191066
It's a nu Italian.
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>>138163150
Everyone who writes for Jacobin should be forced to house refugees.
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>>138163150
Excellent. Now retribution time.
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>>138171315
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>>138163150
>There have been no landings for over a week. Zero boats.
Based pasta niggers.
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>>138168759
no it's germany that always betray us

in the ww2 they used all the vehicles and left our soldiers behind both in urssia and in africa

recently they tried to build internament camps (the famous hotspots) here in italy where they would dump the useless migrants and take those willing to work.
they told us that a deal with gheddafi was a deal with the devil and then proceded to do the same thing with erdogan with european money. and when the balkan route was closed they left us alone to deal with the mass migration
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>>138178729
What have you been here for two weeks? That gif has been around for a VERY long time
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