Same sex marriage

Vote yes because god isn't real and faggots kissing will not affect you in any way whatsoever

>>138162016
Vote no because it's not a basic human right. They have a right to marry anyone of the opposite gender.

>>138162016
>should I spit in the eyes of god and vote yes
If there is a God, I doubt he gives a hot fuck about the debate on homosexual marriage contracts

>deny them basic human rights and vote no
Human rights are as meaningless as voting, but vote no so that you can say you believe in personal liberty, even though the ideal is a fat joke in a society where poorly trained monkeys with shiny badges and shiny guns can dictate the boundaries of your interaction with the world around you.

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>>138162262
Based Messerschmitt digits confirm

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>>138162152

>>138162016
Vote no because God would disagree with you otherwise and because really it's not a basic right.

Besides, it's a good chance to oppose faggotry in a way that somewhat matters besides posting on a mongolian cave panting forum

>>138162016
>basic human right
top hue

>>138162458

Could have gotten away using change, just sayin'.

>>138162152

preach

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Vote no faggot

Gay Couples' Children Oppose Same-Sex Marriage, Tell of Unpleasant Upbringings
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/8/gay-couples-children-oppose-same-sex-marriage-tell/

Gay Marriage - Secular Reasons Against It
http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-marriage-christians-communicating-to-secular-friends

Here a pastebin on problem of homosexuality

https://pastebin.com/aiTLKLJc

>>138162016
Any proof that it's a basic right?

Also, don't forget to sage all shitposts like this

>>138162016
Vote no and psychotic delusional individuals may finally get the help they have always refused.

srsly anti psychotics have been proven to resolve most of the symptomatic issues of nearly all of LGBT+.

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>>138162152

>>138162918
kek you fucking retard wanting to give more kids (((psych medication))) just because you can't mind your own business, or have none to mind

kys

>>138162016
>deny them basic human rights and vote no why do you think?

Utter insanity. What kind of mental gymnastics you have to have been brainwashed into to seriously believe people have a "right" to have a government bless their unnatural sexual fetish is beyond me.

>>138162918
Proof?

>>138162016
What I don't understand is why should it even matter to a homosexual couple given marriage is an exclusively religious concept from what I know of and we all know what religion's view on homosexuality is.

Faggots should consider themselves lucky they're even able to walk freely, I know Saudi Arabia would take issue with that (and many other shit countries).

>>138162016
Forcing the church to marry faggots even though they don't want to denying them freedom of religious expression.

Vote no because you should'nt be able to force someone to do something they don't want to just because faggots said so.

>>138163383
https://pastebin.com/aiTLKLJc

Proof

>>138162016
vote yes because being kind is the right thing to do

>>138162016

god is a jew. fact.

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>>138163928
Kill yourself faggot

>>138162016
here is my hot, hot take on same-sex marriage

It shows the loss of meaning in the idea of marriage. It was created for a couple to have kids, not sex. It was traditionally used so that a couple could get kids. Things that never happened in the past: divorce, premarital sex, homosexuality, transgenderism, sex outside of your spouse, pedophilia (most societies looked down upon it). If you use that list and use it to give the argument in a debate that marriage was only intended for someone to have children, you'd be in good shape. What I'm saying is that marriage has lost its meaning completely and instead government marriage should be gotten rid of. Only the church should allow marriage (in its traditional way, aka no same-sex).

oh yeah and im gay and every girl is a thot and every gay/bi guy is a sexual deviant.

>>138163398
>marriage is an exclusively religious concept from what I know of
You do understand fags can already have the religious ceremony of marriage in your country?

The debate is about marriage contracts. Religion's got nothing to do with it.

>Faggots should consider themselves lucky they're even able to walk freely, I know Saudi Arabia would take issue with that
It's a question of two consenting adults entering into a contract, it's no one's business but theirs. And what the fuck do Saudis have to do with it?

>>138164361
>Things that never happened in the past: divorce, premarital sex
stopped reading, you're a retard, learn some history

>>138162016
How do you sign up?

>>138164599
i mean in traditional religious societies such as ones with Catholicism or Orthodox christian

>>138164794
oh, really? well, in that case,

>you're a retard, learn some history

>>138162016
Is driving a basic human right or do you need a licence for that as well?
There's a reason why they call it a marriage licence

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>>138162016

Absolutely vote no. This garbage is a slippery slope that will lead your nation down the same road the US has gone down to celebrating their degeneracy. 'They just want to be married' is a lie. They want to be venerated. Do not give one single inch unless you want, without exaggerating, your kids getting gender hormone therapy and watching faggots parade around nearly naked in the streets.

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>>138162016

I'm voting 'no' because marriage, sex and family is sacred and because the homosexual 'lifestyle' is a deathstyle.

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>>138162016

Vote yes, so they will shut up. Otherwise, they will keep whining until you say yes.

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Even if you believe it is a sin for gays to marry, it is not the job of the state to enforce it. In order to truely be saved, one much choose God for themselves, not have a government jackboot force their choice.

>>138162152

Get off this forum you communist faggot.

>>138165121
Hows that communism

>>138165229

Shut up and get AIDS you child molester.

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The traditional marriage is overrated.

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>>138164936

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A gay friend in Maine said they were having a vote on gay marriage. I said I opposed it... only because I don't want to be the last of my friends to get married.

He wasn't with anyone at the time. Now he is living with a serious boyfriend. I am kinda jelly even if I want a girl. It is all the same shit, whether you want pussy or dick. Heartache is heartache. I learned that listening to The Smiths to deal with a girl I was madly in love with broke up with me.

>>138165315
who hurt you, friend?

>>138164904
please explain whats wrong with my statement?

>>138165456
>I don't want to be the last of my friends to get married.

how selfish of you.

>>138165342

Dignifying a relationship defined by squirting semen in shit with the status of 'marriage' is blasphemous. I care about what you do in the privacy of your own bedroom because we live in a society where we expect people to choose moral actions and sex is the most addictive drug there is.

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>>138165342
>traditional marriage
more like biologically functional marriage.

I'm a gay Aussie and I am voting no and would ask all others to vote no as well.

>>138165529
It was historically incorrect, go read about it, dumbass

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>>138165490

I just think that the best thing a homosexual can do is blow his own brains out so that he doesn't harm any more children, recruit others into his deathstyle or spread disease and drive up health costs.

test

>>138162016

Marriage IS NOT a basic human right you cunt.

vote yes, so I can marry the aussie bf I will surely have at some point in the future

>>138162344
Don't cut yourself on the edge

>>138165712
youre not giving me any evidence except "go read about it" i don't have that much time in a day, my statement was from evidence throughout history

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>>138162152

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>>138165581

The gay marriage has been legalized in US last two years. After two years, the effect of this doesn't make a huge impact on US.

Don't worry about it, so vote yes to get over with it.

>>138165668

you forget to turn ur proxy on.

>>138162152
But it will effect the institution of marriage and what it represents in society. Also slippery slope is real.

>>138165758

then what is it?

>>138165654
>biologically functional marriage

What about those infertile couples?

>>138166030
I'm currently travelling,cunt.

>>138162016
Vote no, it's a tax scam/benefit fraud.

>>138166173

then what about other gays in Australia, cunt?

>>138166085
Tax rebate for reproduction.

>>138166272

see >>138166141

>>138166141
We can institute a fertility test for aspiring marriage couples. Won't help the scamming faggots though.

>>138162016
hmm i wonder why this wasnt put up to a vote here

>>138166173
where are you currently?

>>138166252
Their ability to get married serves no purpose. They want it to feel validated. While undermining the purpose of marriage which is to raise children.

>>138166429
Baden-Württemberg.

>>138166368
That's the most retarded thing I ever heard of! Does it happen in Swiss? I hope not!

>>138162016

well god doesnt exist so you can stop worrying out that

>>138162016
Since you're an Aussie you should shitvote

>>138162016
There will always be gays if you vote for same sx marriage your just giving them a platform so they can rub it in your face

>>138166524
holy shit, I live there

pls become my aussie bf

>>138162016
Do you want to go down the slippery slope?

>>138166744
Sure. Got any app to contact on?

>>138162016
Vote yes because I am a human being. I should be able to love whoever I fall in love with. Try to understand that not everyone here is Christian, and the same way you shouldn't have to live under Jewish law, gays shouldn't have to live under Christian law.

>>138166457

If same-sex couples can’t marry because they can’t reproduce, why can infertile couples marry?

>>138166744

he would be your worst bf, who is against gay marriage. You will never be happy.

>>138162152
Your comment

Vote yes. God is a nonce and the sooner the Catholic church grows the fuck up...the sooner little boys will stop getting their arse's caved in by shady depraved priests.

>>138166085
A religious ritual.

>>138162344
>leaf

>>138167168
It's a clear definition of man and woman. The number of infertile couples is tiny and irrelevant.
>>138167244
Oh no, I don't let my identity dictate my beliefs. I'm such a terrible person.

>>138162016
After the rabble that fags have caused in NZ i'd advise against voting in favour of gay marriage.

>>138167524

>muh religious

Marriage has evolved throughout history, so it can change again.

Get over it.

>>138167013
I don't have a phone
how old are you?

Vote yes do not allow the progress towards the anti christ to decrease.

>>138162016
Every inch you give them will further the destruction of your society.

>>138162152
Fpbp

>>138167642
>The number of infertile couples is tiny and irrelevant.

Then the number of gay couples is tiny. Same-sex marriage won’t affect you, so what’s the big deal?

>>138165734

Would it not be better if people like you just hung themselves?

>>138162016
"deny them basic human rights"

u w0t nigger

Nothing's stopping them from getting married the legitimate way (to the opposite sex). What rights are they missing out on

>>138168033

Well this way heterosexuals will also be allowed to marry the same sex. Everyone gets more freedom.

>>138167765
24. You must have a way to communicate.
>>138167970
Rape also doesn't affect me and doesn't happen a lot. I guess it should be legal too.

Vote no you faggot

>>138168200

Two people consenting to marriage is not the same as one person raping another.

>>138168133
If by "freedom" you mean AIDS

>>138168338
Glad we established that. Same-sex couples are not the same as couples when it comes to marriage.

You can go get civil unioned.

How is marriage a basic human right you fucking retard, it's an institution of the church lmao

>>138167746
So marriage should become a human right?

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>>138168200

>rape
>same-sex marriage

They are not related, you stupid cunt.

Unless, you insist, then it is time to abolish all marriages because sexual violence occurs in more than 14% of all marriages

>>138168756
>civil unioned.

Do they receive the same benefits as the straight people? If not, then it is not equality.

>>138169059
They receive the same legal rights as a marriage. Try not speaking on things you don't know about.

>>138169264

I am talking about the benefits. Tax cuts, etc..

>What about infertile couples
They don't matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrD8zvCUtWc

The state should step away from marriage completely. If a church wants to marry someone, let them. If they don't, don't force them. Let everyone get a civil union.

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>>138162016
>fag marriage is a basic human right
No

please God, not man.

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>>138162152

>>138169329
No. You don't receive those. Why should you get a tax cut for kissing a boy?

The point of tax cuts for marriage is financial encouragement to have children.

>>138162016
No, because what comes next is self marriage, inanimate object marriage, triplel marriage, dog & cat marriage, then most important of all to the Jews, child marriage.

>>138162792
>preach
Have we been raided by tumblr or something?
I'm surprised I didn't see a "say it louder for the people in the back" post yet

>>138162912
It's not. The only rights are the rights to life, liberty and property.

>>138162016
basic human right? are u fuckin kiddin me?

>>138162016
God only cares about what you do, not about what you allow other people to do.

>>138169562

>No. You don't receive those.

Then it is not equality period.

>The point of tax cuts for marriage is financial encouragement to have children.

Why it is ok for the infertile couples get away with that?

>>138169816
See
>>138169331

>>138162016
m8 vote no don't give them any ground
also marriage is not a right, its a christian tradition so ancient that the entire west takes it for granted

>>138168819
no

>>138162016
Sodomy isn't a basic human right.
>>138162152
https://pastebin.com/eaEGgUa3

>>138164180
the burger speaks the truth

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>>138162016
>should I spit in the eyes of god

You would only do this if you were a complete and absolute retard who didn't value his own life or avoiding severe suffering.

>>138166141
An edge case not worth combating. Man + Woman usually makes a breeding pair, while MM or FF never produce children.

>>138162016
Marriage isn't a human right, faggot. Marriage is a contract between two people and the state, the purpose of which is to ensure that new taxpayers are created. Faggots can't procreate, so marriage isn't for them. They can still do the ceremony and desecrate a holy institution, but they have no reason to get married.

Vote for the most butthurt.

That is /Pol/a true way.

>>138169816
Because infertility is an edge case that takes more effort to detect than it's worth, while anyone with functioning eyes can detect a homosexual marriage. Furthermore, the infertile often seek to repair their infertility, so even infertile couples might not stay such.

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>>138162818
>Necro that high
Goddammit

>>138162016
>should I vote yes to spite imaginary person in my head or should I vote no to decrease rate of dissolution of family unit in my country
since when marriage is basic right you dumbfuck? Where's my state funded whore to marry me?

>>138169331

Keyes' argument has its flaws. Post menopausal women, for example, cannot reproduce in principle. One can identify such a women without any sort of fertility test. Why is she allowed to marry?

The principle as it stands to not exclude other principles, but it does exclude homosexuals. In principle men and woman start families that can give rise to homosexuals, which in principle can either have children through a heterosexual marriage and divorce to be with their same sex partner, or adopt and raise children. There's much more to it than Mr. Keyes cared to mention.

>>138162016
It sounds like you're not ready yet. Go home and discuss this with Mom.

>>138171871
>One can identify such a women without any sort of fertility test. Why is she allowed to marry?
Identification through fertility tests are totally irrelevent to the point being made, but sure, you can pretend it was.

Do you have anything to say on the rest of the post?

>>138168756

They are the exact same thing.

>>138168633

I do not.

>>138162016

Is this fucking vote compulsory?

Am i going to be fined for not voting?

>>138162016
>basic human rights
It's not like they can't get married
And it's not like straight people can marry whoever they want

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>>138162016
Vote NO
> it will really trigger the snowflakes
>it reinforces the majority are anti Political correctness
>Gays already have all the same legal rights as married Hetero couples except have a marriage certificate....thats it.
>Its not a right
>Its not about equality

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you could just not give a shit and not vote

>>138162016
Allowing them marriage is only further fueling their agenda of poisioning the entire fucking world with this abominations. Let them fuck let them kiss but they dont need to shove it up everyones ass to accept them as what they are. God maybe doesnt give a shit about them but this isnt more about god as it is about their abominable politics of destabilizing entire world and turning it into fiairyland of diversity and tolerance and multiculti bullshit that cant exist

>>138175058
It's illegal not to vote here

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> my friends all say "just make it legal already"
> mfw i'm voting no but dont know what to say

>>138162016
what do you mean the 24th?

Does the public vote for it on August 24th?

>>138175890
Apparently from what I have been told maybe my state

>>138176013
and which state would that be?

>>138162016
i'll vote NO! cause they dont just want equality. they want special treatment. next step after that will be prison for not using the right pronoun and legalizing pedophilia.

>>138162016
Wait what, what state is this in?

I wasn't told about having to vote on this.

Where the fuck do I go to make sure to vote no for gay marriage.

>>138162016
No.

sexual intercourse
1
: heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis

The definition of "sex" and "sexual intercourse" has been changed and pushed over the course of the last eight years under Obama's presidency. Sex is solely for reproduction. If a person is attracted to another person of the same sex, they cannot reproduce, therefore, the "playing out" of traditional man/woman sex acts with that person is wasted effort. If a person is attracted to someone of the same sex, this means that they see something in that person that is worthy of being reproduced, but they know that it cannot happen: it is therefore a sexual paraphilia.

If a man starts watching porn, and finds himself looking at the penis a little too much, that does not mean he is gay, but society would like to convince him of that. The sight of an erect penis is a sperm competition cue for many men, which goes back to early human days when nudity was more common. In other words, men who like looking at dicks are highly competitive, but get tricked by the society that pushes the gay agenda. Men are more likely to describe the penis using highly descriptive words such as, "veiny", "huge", "thick", etc. It's why even a lot of "straight" men find pre-op transsexuals visually stimulating.

http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(02)00103-4/abstract

>>138176060
Qld

>>138162016
marriage isn't a right faggot

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>>138176164
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>138176082
That is it exactly. It isnt about equality it never was. They already have same rights as everyone amd noone is forbiding them to fuck in the ass. As you say next stop is allowing pedophilia as it will be basic human right to fuck little kids

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>>138176356
>allowing pedophilia as it will be basic human right to fuck little kids
That is a sexual paraphilia, and the Left is trying to normalize cultural sickness. You cannot reproduce with someone who has not gone through puberty.

It's disgusting.

>>138162016
Deny
Deny
Deny

>>138162016
Vote "yes"
Galaxy don't need Australians

if you vote yes you support postmodern neo marxists, the malevolent degenerates aiming to destroy every known value
and you should be killed and called a fucking faggot

>>138162818
http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-marriage-christians-communicating-to-secular-friends
>People leave the homosexual lifestyle and desire all the time.
Right, people leave the hipster lifestyle all the time too and we still let those fuckers marry.
>2, 3, 4
This doesn't even mention gays and is pretty much just an argument for marrying as many couples as possible. Especially if they have kids. Also links to a defunct article which I'm pretty certain talked about the discredited Regnerus study judging by the name.
>This is a fact of nature, thus given by God.
>secular
>Redefining marriage would diminish the social pressures and incentives for husbands to remain with their wives
How? That's like saying letting cats into a dog park would diminish pressures and incentives for people to walk their dogs there. The two aren't related at all.
>The results of redefining marriage—parenting by single parents, divorced parents, remarried parents, cohabiting couples, and fragmented families of any kind—are demonstrably worse for children.
1. Redefining marriage doesn't effect the effectiveness of these childrearing techniques
2. Gays don't steal children from functional straight couples. They get them through IVF/surrogates/previous relationships/adoption. These same studies show kids are shit shows in foster homes and single parent families.
>Studies show domestic violence is three times higher among homosexual partnerships, compared to heterosexual marriages.
No, no they don't. Studies show people that identify as homosexuals report higher rates of suffering domestic violence. Actual examination of those studies show instances of homosexuals reporting heterosexual domestic violence in their histories. Comparisons of women that only report dv by women and men that only report dv by men with men by women and women by men show you're actually safer with your own sex, though lesbians are actually more violent than straight women.

>>138176810
>Promiscuity is a destabilizing influence on society.
Unless being married makes them more promiscuous, what is the point here?
>10
Again, what does this have to do with the gays?
>11
Not an argument against gay marriage. At best it's an argument against Marriage in general. At worst it's a red herring.
>will think that gay marriage is OK when it is legal.
An argument for legalization
>Gay marriage is undeniably a step into other deviances.
Slippery slope fallacy
>Only a small percentage of gays who are given the right to marry do so anyway
And fuck that % I guess?
>Anal intercourse leads to numerous pathologies, obviously because the parts do not fit!
And fuck lesbians. Also red herring. Also, you can't argue marriage is about fucking and having kids cause having kids definitely leads to less fucking.
>The ravages of the gay lifestyle are severe upon the gay community itself but also for society at large.
See all those arguments about marriage benefiting society from literally this same shit. Also red herring.
>It is okay to discriminate
Well then.
>Gay marriage and religious freedom are incompatible
>secular
>Homosexual practioners cost more than they contribute via disproportionate diseases and disasters such as HIV, hepatitis, herpes, mental illness, substance abuse, suicide, assault, etc.
So do most red states. Also, the fuck does this have to do with marriage? Are we tying human rights to credit score now?
> having fewer children,
They'll have more children if they can't marry? Wat? What about all that shit you just said about marriage and child rearing?
>poorly socializing the children they raise
As opposed to single parent households or foster homes, amirite?
,>commit about half of all child molestations recorded in the news.
Well if it's in the news...
>(Source: Family Research Report, April 2014)
Ahahahahahahahaha
>having fewer children

Homosexuals are either faking it for threesomes and propaganda, autistic deluded abuse victims, destitute rent boys turned career-fags, or a fucked up combination of all three.

This is what hollywood has done to people.

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>>138164936
based anon, truly opened my eyes

>>138175890
I thought we were having a vote on whether we should have a vote on it.

>>138162016
Gays and lesbos aren't the enemy. The only thing i'm against is dick mutilation. It's a sickness to cut your junk off. Other than that I don't care about queers. They can do whatever.

There's other, very real problems happening in the world that need to be dealt with like pedophile rings within the government.

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>>138162152

>>138162016
vote no. not for any other reason than seeing cranky lesbian pepper sprayed, di natali crying and poofters getting trodden on by police horses

vid related

>>138162016
Would you like to go to heaven or hell?

>>138180420
oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PfDro1UGUo

>>138175562
Spoil your ballot then. Preferably with Swastikas.

>giving a shit about somebody's life decisions that dont effect mine in any way
Must be nice being fourteen

>>138162016
marriage is not a right
the same way you can't marry a child or a dog or your sister or a lamp

they have civil unions already, case closed
VOTE NO

>>138165967
NEVER

>>138183425
i agree with the templar

Without knowing the context, I'd vote YES. In general, married people get tax cuts, don't have to testify against their spouse in court, can more easily move between countries together and so on. I believe, all stable couples should have these things.

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>>138167423

You listen here you dumb fucking limey cunt: the child abuse sex scandal was not caused by the Catholic Church teaching people that sodomy, fornication and adultery are evil. Virtue does not cause vice. Virtue leads to more virtue. The child abuse in the Church was caused by the fact that there was a network of sexually active homosexual men in the priesthood and nobody did a fucking thing to drive them out because they were all chickenshit dickheads like you who are too afraid to do anything because they're afraid of being called a homophobe.

>>138162016
Marriage as an institution was invented to ease relations between people as a non competition agreement, and to keep reproduction regular. In people who do not reproduce due to a biological error, its essentially a string of gibsmedats for fags, or a way to open up the door to adoption which WILL result in an increase in child sex trafficking because far more gays are pedos than straights and they will be unable to be criticized.

By the way, marriage isn't a human right. Human rights don't require other people around to exercise them. If marriage was a human right the way your country thinks healthcare is, then the government should be providing partners for people.