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average potsmoker's argument

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>muh muh plant just a plant just a plant it's just a plant muh plant guys it's just a plant muh plant muh plant

never trust an addict, their brains are being controlled and they will stop short of nothing to protect their precious addiction.
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>>138149677
This desu
There is no point of having recreational weed (and even some of the legal drugs).
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>>138149677

Average non pot smokers argument

>How dare they have fun without drinking alcohol everybody needs to drink the liquid jew to lower our test levels and make us have man boobies
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i will stop short of mild inconvenience or if i don't have the money for it, which is often. i'm not gonna shank anyone for a doob, i'm not even going to walk across town for it.

vaping minimizes the risks anyways. and i was a loser long before smoking pot and i've tried not smoking it for a few months and i was still the same loser. so meh

why should i stop?
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>>138150020
>muh muh alcohol muh alcohol muh alcohol just as bad muh alcohol it's just as muh bad

I don't drink alcohol mister.
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the biggest risk with smoking i don't hear people talking about is gingivitis. that is some serious shit and listerine isn't the magic bullet you think it is. if you smoke you have got to brush and floss and shit do not get lazy trust me.
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Here is my common argument.

>No
>Why?
>Because I said so
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>>138149677
>>138150292

>tfw no qt spaghetti spilling gf

Are you literally the only white red-pilled LEAF, or dare I say, Canadian?
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>>138150292
can i trust a man who doesn't trust himself when he's drinking?

deep down thats what people think when you say that
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>>138149677
a fucking leaf.
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>>138149677
Ban assault tits. Too many endo cannabinoids in tit milk. Must have more dead babies
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>>138150244
Wise words fellow leaf. I realized I'm just happier and nicer when I'm high. I'm not baked 24/7 but enough to be a more pleasant human to be around.
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>>138150620
Look guys, it's an addict doing whatever he can to desperately pretend everyone is a hopeless, weak willed slut just like he himself is!
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>>138150565
yes
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I live in a townhouse complex and my newish neighbours smoke like it's aushwitz. The smell seeps into my house and my stuff starts to smell like weed. I should notify authorities I think they are selling.
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>>138150859
if you weren't a hopeless, weak willed slut you wouldn't be afraid of alcohol and what it might do to you
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How about because its up to me to get my own life in order?

Should federal law mandate I eat well? Should it make sure I get a good nights sleep? Im not hurting anyone but myself

I mean ahem adurr durr muh plant durr
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>>138151369
faggots like you stink up anything and anyone in a 1km radius.
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weed is cringe as fuck, i started smoking at 22 and have been since 26, i stopped 3 months ago and i fucking LOVE IT, my head is so fucking clear and when i want to get something done i dont procrastinate, i also eat more, have been gaining weight, quit smoking and am hitting the gym 5 times a week like i used to before i smoked.

Everyone is different obviously but the changes for me have been great, I also had a chronic cough that is slowly going away, also I've done ALOT of LSD and ive heard that fucks with a persons weed high permanently, because my weed highs were not that fun, weed mostly made me feel very paranoid and extremely lazy
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>>138151282
heh, if you knew anything at all, which you cannot, being an addict and all, but let's say you did know things, you would know that alcohol should be afraid of what I can do to it and not the other way around.
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>>138149677
You know what else is a plant?
Your flag
A fucking leaf
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>>138149677
>I wanna tell people what to do

Get fucked commie hypocrite
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>>138150859
Like the man in your photo?
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>>138152071
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>>138150847
You think your pleasant around people but people are only around you for weed
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>>138151490
So youre arguing against personal responsibility then?
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>>138149677
give me your taxes to protect my heroin monopoly

slave
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Im bipolar and I just like the way it makes me feel. It helps me with mood swings. Does this still makes me a degenerate?
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>>138149677
People who sit around and smoke pot all day weren't going to accomplish much anyway. Same with most other drugs and alcohol. As with booze, if you indulge on the weekends or after work then to each their own. If you're waking up to it then your likely a worthless piece of shit.

>t. former worthless pothead
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Every bit of weed you buy funds shit like this pic related
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>>138152343
I'm saying you're not being fucking responsible when your habits stink up MY house.
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>>138149677
If someone is weak enough to be "addicted" to weed, they probably weren't going to amount to much anyway.

It is by far the easiest drug to quit.
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>smoke weed literally every day
>still a very social and productive person
>the only people who even know are my stoner friends

Get fucked anti-weedfags, there's literally nothing you can do about it. How does it make you feel? If you saw me in public you wouldnt even know I was high.
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>>138149677
Based leaf
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>>138151282
hey im a weak willed slut and even i can handle a blunt or bottle without instantly dying of addiction or whatever

>>138152784
nah nigga i only get it if its from BC or locally grown, mexican shit is a meme for domeass yankees
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>>138152809
I dont even live in the same country as you retard. If an individual smoker is offending you take it up with him.

Property rights my nigga
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>>138150620
I don't have respect for people that drink.
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>>138149677
>never trust an addict, their brains are being controlled and they will stop short of nothing to protect their precious addiction.
But muh muh plant just a plant just a plant it's just a plant muh plant guys it's just a plant muh plant muh plant
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>>138153360
Nobody gives a shit if you respect them
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>>138149677
weed impairs the fucking mind. It lowers brain function and therefore response time and ability to rationalize. anything that impairs thought should be either highly regulated or illegal. we can see what happens when people have impaired though - look at liberals today. fucking high off their asses on heroin and weed. alcohol impairs, but it leaves the system quickly unlike marijuana and other dope.
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>>138150020
I don't drink or smoke
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>>138149677
my average potsmoker argument.
weed is in every culture in the world dating back centuries, the filthy goym made it illegal to grow so the paper industry and other shit that hemp could replace would boom.
people have been having weed as some form of medicine or tool since literally forever. dont believe me? go look up how they made bow strings. go look up how berserkers would get ready for battle. people have been taking these natural drugs, which also are way more natural then FUCKING ALCOHOL which is literally just whatever bullshit cunts had lying around that would eventually go off and turn into a liquid. alcohol is literally a poison that makes you stupid, while opium shrooms and weed and any other natural drug people can come up with, literally grow out the fuckin ground, though i will give a pass on people saying shrooms are fine cause once again they are just poisonous.
yes weed is "just a plant" but even if u didnt wanna smoke it it is straight up the most useful plant on this earth, and that's without medical properties
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>>138153360
Nobody gives a fuck about your respect. Save the white race, have kids, don't degenerate, and kill the Jews, faggot. Cannabis is a healing plant. Small amounts of alcohol never hurt anyone.
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>>138152784
>Every bit of weed you buy funds shit like this pic related

No man I only buy american weed from licensed drug dealers
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Pot is for kids. Grow the fuck up.
People who did
>Have a much better perspective on sobriety and its benefits.
People who didn't
>Just smoke weed and don't care. Like niggers
>You're niggers
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>>138149677

STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE
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>>138153785
>muh plant
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>>138149677
I can quit anytime I want
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>>138154138
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>>138153830
>what is moderation?
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don't forget:
>dude weed lmao, cures cancer lmao weed xD, lmao u believe what u hear on tv, unlike me who get my facts from 420blazeit.com lmao weed
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>>138154153
Said every addict ever.
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>>138149677
What makes you believe you have the moral high ground to tell people what they can and cant do when it has no causation to you or anyone else?
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>>138156873
It's my right as enshrined by law.
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>>138156989
Wrong, filthy leaf. See bill c-16, you have no rights.
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>>138156989
You want to dictate other peoples lives based on your own beliefs even when it has no effect on you?
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>>138150292
>>138153607

No wonder you are edge lord virgin nazi wannabes.
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>>138157311
no, but that's not what you asked.
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its a drug and you have no right to say we can't use it. get over it
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>>138157397
Then why does this thread even exist?
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deep down you know that being high is shameful and not honourable
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>>138152784
Mexican weed is garbage, nobody's smoked that since the 80s
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>>138149677
Get raked.
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>>138149677
How....sad do you have to be that nobody accepts your alcoholism to make this post? I feel truly sorry for you.
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>>138157622
to mock potsmokers lack of cohesive defence of their stinky addiction
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>>138149677
the point of the plant argument is, if you grow this plant on your own property for your own consumption, you're guilty of a felony, which is fucked up totalitarian bullshit.
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>>138157622
He wants to literally rake out the weed.
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>>138156645
When potheads try to quit they worry about relapsing, when alcoholics try to quit they tend to just die without heroin injections C;
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>>138157991

anime is more degenerate than weed. nobody with this much anime saved is a productive member of society.
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>>138158086
>when alcoholics try to quit they tend to just die without heroin injections C;

what
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it's just a plant, bro

fite me
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>>138158113
the wittle potsmoker sure is getting triggered. You're like the trannies you probably purport to hate.

>use my pronouns you shitlord!
>tell me my addiction is a good thing you shitlord!

muh plant muh alcohol muh anime muh muh muh muh muh muh muh muh muh muh muh muh muh
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>>138158196
>too retarded to understand benzodiazepines
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Weed makes betas but only betas smoke weed in the first place so nothing of value is lost

>betas will refute this
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>>138157991
This a board about political discussion.
You shouldve made this thread on a different board.
No wonder you guys are getting overrun by trannies and fags.
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>>138158196
This is what alcohol does to your mind, take note how they don't even understand their own addiction
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>>138152227
No one knows I smoke. That's the best part. No moochers.
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>>138158503
>>138158579

>alcohol
>benzos
>heroin

those are three different categories. are you on all three? you're trying too hard to be like based quentin

(me on the right)
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>>138149677
are you afraid of getting smoked by accident?
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>>138158686
Weak response but I expected nothing less from an addict who can't cope with reality without his medicine
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>>138158914
>too stupid to see the similarities
its okay anon ;3
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>>138152784
Not only do I get my weed locally, I also don't really care about cartel subhumans torturing and eating each other. Hell, show me where to buy weed that pays for this.
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>>138159115

There are none idiot.
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>>138159184
Okay ;3
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>>138159271
Stay awhile and listen
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>>138159271
>imagine being this mad at being wrong
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>>138149677
People who smoke pot right now don't have an argument.
It goes like this:
>pot is illegal
>there may be good arguments to make it legal
>but it's not legal, so don't do it
>they do it anyway
At this point we can conclude one of two things: either the person smoking pot is a willful criminal and we should not listen to what they have to say, especially regarding what should become legal, that is currently not; OR, this is a drug that can cause powerful habits that overcome an otherwise lawful person's ability to remain lawful, and the drug should remain tightly controlled so as to avoid unleashing these ill effects on the general public.

>If someone is academic about it, and doesn't do it, and wants to argue something e.g. the portugal model, I might listen to them.

Pot like most drugs are sorely misunderstood in this country. There is a massive reeducation that must happen before any policy change in any direction.
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>>138159813
This is a classic "if you aren't a, you must be b" argument. I know you are autistic, but please realize there is a third option.
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>>138160017
>criticizing without offering any alternative or solution
Jew commie detected
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>>138149677
Hopefully no rapper sees this post. Or these fire lyrics will be in the top 20.
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>>138160017
often more than a third. There are countless options and beliefs, but this board is too retarded to understand that and they fall into the "its me ore them!1!!1!' fallacy a lot.
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>>138149677
good goy buy more pills
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>>138152998
This. Smoked for three years straight I'm now on three months no weed for no reason other than I don't feel like smoking. Don't Know what the big fucking deal is.
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>>138160017
>>138160192
Okay really are you both this fucking stupid?
>if you are not a, you must be b
Yes that is literally what the situation is.
>either you smoke pot while it is illegal, or you do not smoke it
How fucking hard is that to understand?
>you are a criminal, or you are not a criminal
>based on this categorization, it is sound logic to say that criminals should not get to dictate what the law is
>if a non-criminal wants to change the law for the benefit of society that may be worth listening to
Jesus put down the fucking bong and go outside for some fresh air you two.
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>>138160490
Mostly just alcoholics that are super mad that all the calories in their drug of choice made them fat. That and chronic alcoholics dying if they go gold turkey. They are really just jealous.
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>>138160679
>this butthurt because they are on the wrong side of "the government said it was bad so I believe!", lmao
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I don't need a fucking reason. And if you ever give me any lip about it irl, I'll fucking smash you and my friends will say that you tried to grab my cock and were aggressively trying to sell gay sex to everybody that walked by you.

Keep your head down spergy. Eyes to the ground like always.
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>>138160679
Jesus, alcohol fanatics are so desperate
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>>138160838
>braindead fucking pot smoker degenerate criminal detected

I'm not making any argument about pot at all. I'm not advocating for any position or belief of any government propaganda regarding drugs. If you read my earlier post, I know I used words more than four letters long but just try, I said that the country needs massive reeducation on drugs before making any policy decisions.
>muh reefer madness
>huh huh pot doesn't make you dumb guys
>oops dude where's my car
>kek kek cuck that poster on 4chinz believes what the gubbimint tells him
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>>138160838
>>138160954
>replying to me twice
LMAO triggered as fuck mate?
Seriously go for a 45 minute walk your body will thank you.
peace out
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>>138160760
I'm assuming most people who shit on weed on this board buy heroin from a black guy in a Tahoe. Or hardcore alcoholics living in Nova Scotia.

There's no middle ground if you're this retarded and projecting this hard.
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>>138161185
>peacing out of an argument because they are losing
okay ;3
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>>138161270
Basically. They don't see how harmless it is compared to the bigger picture and they really bought hard into those shitty government propaganda efforts.
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>>138161185
You need to be 18 to post here.
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>>138151490
Cig smokers are worse, cig smell actually sticks around. You have to try to get weed smell to stay.
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>>138149677
you guys get so worked up about weed its very entertaining; all good im chilling blazed
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>>138161096
Lmao keks roffle am I winning yet guys?
Okay except pop doesn't instigate this behavior at all outside of teen movies. Grats on showing how much of newfag you are.
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>>138161401
>compared to the bigger picture
Sign of autism. Also the general board culture of hating anything thats popular outside of this shit hole.
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>>138150620
>You are not a man unless you drink
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>>138149677

It doesn't do shit. I have smoked it for 12 years and not had ONE car wreck driving all the time.
I'm intelligent, well spoken, well mannered, polite, and I can smoke the stuff and you wouldn't even know I had.
And I've quit several times and it doesn't bother me except I miss getting high. But I don't have physical urges.
Stop being a control freak and leave me the fuck alone asshole. I'm not bothering you.
Attack heroine or meth or even alcohol.
You know, the stuff that actually is addictive and regularly kills people.
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>>138153523
Yet you made this thread about people who have been shown to chronically not care what other people think

Really jogs the noggion'
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>>138152784
*Every gram of coke.
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>>138161685
Oh and I'll add sometimes I take a break for a week or two from smoking pot just because I feel like being sober for awhile.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A DRUG ADDICT TO YOU? Moron.
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>>138161685
>>138161824
Nice pasta
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>>138152784
>Every bit of weed you buy funds shit like this pic related

Fuck man I had no Idea livwell was owned by Mexicans, thats fucked, everybody in the dispo seems white.
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pot smokers must die
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>>138149677
I just say 'so is Opium' and they usually go quiet
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>>138162005

Yea I buy from one of these too. Do the cartels run them? I had no idea. I should tell the white hippies and punk rocker types who seem to work there.
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>>138152784

Keeping it illegal funds the shit like your pic.
Illegal items are rare.
Rare items are expensive.
Expensive items can be smuggled for GREAT profits!!!!!
You can't win the drug war. They've been trying since the 80s.
And while we fight it, thousands die brutally in Mexico because we MUST keep it illegal.
Once it's legal?
Cartels have nothing to sell.
Their profits vanish.
And the war ends. There's no reason to fight.
No reason to smuggle.
No reason to break the law.
JUST LIKE PROHIBITION waaaay back in the day. Same shit. Same problems. Had to make it legal again. No more problems.
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>>138162385
Why are you shilling so hard for pot?
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>>138149677
Anything can be addicting moron, you are just as addicted to browsing 4chan or playing videogames.
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>>138149677
I just like to get high.
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Well lets see, I graduated high-school with a 4.3 and was the salutatorian of my class, I smoked fuck loads of pot every day.

I have a full ride scholarship to attend school of mines in Colorado for engineering one of the most exclusive colleges in the us, none, if very few of you stupid mother fuckers on here would even be able to pass an entrance exam.

How does it feel to know that I smoke pot every day, And I am STILL smarter and more successful than you?
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>>138162385
Watch sicario
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>>1381624

I'm just giving you my honest thoughts on the subject and yea as I mentioned, I smoke the stuff.
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>>138162580
Wow, you sure impressed 4chan.
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>>138149677
>he thinks I need to argue what I do with MY time and MY body
top cuck, I'll blaze one just to make you mad
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>>138149677
thought this was a free country niggers, i want to smoke weed, fuck off
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>>138162385
>>138162625
I really do not care. You act like legalization is the only solution to drug trafficking.
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>>138162385
This legalize all drugs.
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>>138149677
No benefits to not smoking for me.
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>>138162464
legalize meth as well.
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>>138162788
Yeah, that really worked out for Portugal
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>>138162700

It is. It is the only solution to drug trafficking.
Why in the last 40 years have they been able to stop it?
I can tell you how. I can do that shit right now.
Make it legal. Stops. Immediately. No more trafficking of the substance made legal. Overnight.
Why do you have a better idea to stop the drug trade? Hope it doesn't involve machine guns and grenades and swat teams because we've been doing that for 40 years.
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>>138162700
Its not the only solution just the best one.
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>>138162881
>>138162882
You must be new here. Philippines got a handle on their drug problem in only a few months.
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>>138163014

They arrested half their government and the cops viciously executed the drug dealers.
Because Philippines.
Yea lets do that. It'll go over swell here.
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>>138160679
>>138159813

But Cannabis is legal in my state, and it has lowered real addiction rates and people on Pharma by like 40%. Elderly folks who were zombified are now properly medicated. You are the ones without the education. Government/Pharma LIED to you.
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>>138163309
It solved the problem. Drugs ruin lives, I feel no sympathy for drug dealers
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>>138162881
that doesn't make any sense cause it's just a plant
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>>138152784
>Buying weed kills brown people

I'll take 5
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>>138163394

You're not going to have roaming squads of enforcers shooting POT SMOKERS in the head you psycho.
Get real. The problem with you?
Is that you're a control freak and psychotic.
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>>138163394
So you want to euthanize Pharmaceutical dealers first then since they are 10X worse of a problem to society than illegal drugs ever were? Ok go ahead and start, we'll be right behind you, faggot.
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>>138149677
>never trust an addict, their brains are being controlled and they will stop short of nothing to protect their precious addiction.

Thats like, just your opinion man..

Caffeine kills more daily than pot has killed in human hisotyr
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>>138163394
Retardation and lack of self control ruins lives, sugar kills infinitely more Americans and people wordlwide than weed ever will. You also seem to forget that Americans own guns so it would not be much productive to try and execute every pot smoker like in your fantasy scenario.
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>>138163590
I said drug dealers. If you ever get the chance to visit Singapore (you probably won't because you are a fucking degenerate), take a look around. Look at how pristine and clean the city is. Notice the lack of homeless addicts on the street.
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>>138163495
this really fried my almonds if you know what I mean
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>>138163774
Don't you have to drive your sister to her porn shoot? Take away nonwhites and America has the gun crime rate of Switzerland.
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>>138163475

I bet you need your morning coffee to function everyday, faggot.

Your opinion on drugs is meaningless. Canada is cucked and america will be the first to legalize everything. I'll be popping addys like candy then.
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>>138163394
Don't really feel sympathy for retards either but I'm not calling for you to be euthanized.
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>>138149677
Anybody who doesn't smoke weed is too afraid to do so. I can almost guarantee you that'd be the case with whoever doesn't smoke it
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>>138149677
But the mass production of it would create a ton of jobs and promote small business. You're an edgy fascist...think about what expands the middle class.

Weed procurement would reduce thots and autism too if for no other reason smoking pot is better than being a sex hound or playing dumbass video games.
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>>138163949
I don't drink coffee, or alcohol, or smoke.

pls mister
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>>138163736
Kys
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>>138163971
>t. degenerate
>WAAAAAAAAAAAA he said what people think of drug users.
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>>138163821

I don't drink I don't smoke cigs, I don't party, I have no tattoos, I have my real hair color, I have a good job, I have a good education, I wear normal clothes, I cook for my kids, I clean my house, I do their laundry, I get them to school, I am a single parent. I have no arrest record of any kind. I have never been to jail. I have not gotten a speeding ticket or traffic infraction in over 10 years.
I consider a glass of wine worse than a bowl of weed. So I relax with a bowl of weed from time to time. It's the only thing I do.
And to me that's not at all a degenerate lifestyle.

But when I was a kid? I sold some weed from time to time to help pay my rent because I waited tables and went to school and it was tough. But I never hurt anyone, and I was a decent guy to everyone who knew me.
You'd shoot me in the head. For that.
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>>138163394
>I feel no sympathy for drug dealers

Yeah I doubt pfizer-gsk-bayer care a lot about you either, as long as you keep buying their overpriced shit that literally kills you
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>>138164068
Hemp for Victory
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>>138152784
No it doesnt.
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>>138151269
dont be a snitch, tell them to stop and they will
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>>138164198
lol I'd just shoot you because you sound insufferable
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>>138163881
>ad hominem
>bringing race into non racial argument since whites smoke pot too
>isn't probably even white since living in non white country
So you don't have an argument and just like to larp as some important purifier from warhammer or some shit, well keep being mad at people having freedom virgin.
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>>138149677
Third year medical student reporting in,

not to speak on the addictive qualities or the problems or solutions marijuana might make, but, personally I don't think I could have made it this far into medical school without it.

Tried 100 different types of drugs for anxiety (real anxiety, not snowflake anxiety ptsd autism). Weed helped alot, specifically indicas for sleeping and staying asleep and just relaxing. Call it what you will, but marijuana brought another doctor and future surgeon into the world.
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>>138152784
>Every bit of weed you buy funds shit like this pic related

Organized crime is a product of prohibition

US federal government is responsible for cartels being viable
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>>138164325

You're a Canadian cuck who probably is afraid of guns. If I showed you my shotgun you'd probably wet your manties.
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>>138164501
Heh, well when your shotgun runs out of bullets you better hope I'm not still standing because my boomerang has unlimited ammunition.
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>>138164638

Yea I'm fucked in a gunfight once you get out the boomerang. Just a gonner.
I swear to God Canadians are the most retarded mother fuckers on the face of the earth.
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>>138164198
No, kids would go to prison. I do believe that the death penalty should be on the table for drug trafficking/dealing.
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>>138164199
Big pharma is the reason we have the opioid crisis.
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>>138149677

but it is just a plant ? are you against plants ? do you hate oxegen ?
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>>138164339
In case you did not know, it is called a shitpost. A gun is a tool though, it is not an addictive substance.
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>>138164747
I call it the baby boomer-ang because just when you think you're safe it comes and fucks up dumbass millenials.
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>>138165014
>drugs are not tools
>weed is physically addictive
lmao
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>>138165235
Meth isn't physically addictive either. You think meth should be promoted?
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>>138165235
>>138165332
I forgot, you guys are major tweakers.
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>>138165332
Regulated because of neurotoxicity. Weed causes neurogenesis, exact opposite of meth. But meth is still situationaly useful.
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>>138164793
> I do believe that the death penalty should be on the table for drug trafficking/dealing.
Depends. Did they hurt someone? Because drug traffickers often hurt people. And dealers can.
Do the drugs they sell really hurt people? Are they putting peoples lives at risk by what they sell?
You see this is damage to others. I believe the law should only apply to damage to others or others property. If that has not occurred I see no crime.
Certain drugs that are absolutely deadly COULD be seen as some kind of attempted manslaughter charge. And I could almost see the logic in that.
However if the substance is NOT deadly, and the dealer has committed no violence, I see no reason to arrest him or her.
They are victimizing no one, people willingly purchased something from them they wanted, no one was killed and no property was damaged. I see no crime.
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>>138165605
Meth has medicinal uses and is legal under prescription. Weed does not kill you, but it does make someone an unmotivated lazy shit. Probably why it is being pushed now.
>inb4 I am a major pothead and a fucking Marshall Scholar
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>>138165646
It does not matter. I honestly think there should be some legal solution for Weed. I just think it is stupid to push it as harmless because it is not. However, everything else I have no fucking tolerance for. If someone is caught dealing heroin, they get several years. If that would change to death, and be done quite quickly (within 2 years), the problem would stop.
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>>138165776
>but it does make someone an unmotivated lazy shit
It depends on pot strain. I'm dead serious.
Some will make you lethargic and tired.
Some? Will make you clean your whole house when you weren't even planning to. Or start writing a book.
Some strains are extremely motivating and many of these are often labeled as Sativa dominate strains. Indica dominate strains help you sleep, will make you lazy, tired, lethargic, and ready for a nap.
There are hundreds if not thousands of strains, and each strain itself can make you feel different from the others. Depends on what you get.
I have to keep a journal so I don't buy shit I don't like or effects me negatively.
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>>138165776
>it does make someone an unmotivated lazy shit
no, your lack of self discipline is making you lazy unmotivated shit, if you can't function on one of the least harmful drugs on this planet then you probably have nigger genes, not the people who actually smoke it
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>>138165965

Then the same should be done for alcohol and cigs, because they kill people and are entirely legal. Both have even killed innocent people.
Second hand smoke kills.
Drunk driving kills others who aren't drunk.
And both kill on their own to the user as well.
Totally legal.
Pot does none of these things.
You see? This is why I consider a glass of wine worse than my bowl of weed.
And in a world where the killer is legal?
I'll have my weed thanks.
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>>138166152
There are many studies show negative effects on cognition and motivation. I do not believe this is enough to require criminalization, but it is low-brow to ignore.
>>138166169
>Ad-hominem attack
Whatever you say, druggie.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306460304003041
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>>138166408
See >>138166471 I do not think it is enough for criminalization, but it delegitimizes the legal argument to ignore it.
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>>138166471
>little research exists regarding possible impairment in adolescents who smoke marijuana regularly, and none exists regarding basic behavioral processes
thanks for proving me right
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>>138166635
Keep reading slavshit
> The contingencies were arranged such that one option (work), which required systematically increasing response output, initially produced greater rates of monetary reinforcement than an alternative option (non-work) that required no response output to earn money. Switching to the non-work option was interpreted as a measure of reduced motivation. Significant differences were found between the groups: the marijuana-smoking participants switched earlier to the non-work option, and derived a greater percentage of their earnings from the non-work option. These differences existed when controlling for differences in cognitive aptitude, gender, and the presence of conduct disorder. A significant correlation between cannabinoid levels and percent of earnings derived from the non-work option suggests that these effects could be associated with the presence of cannabinoids in the marijuana-smoking group.
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>>138166169
Don't try, these threads and discussions appear daily and the anti-drug policemen here are on a mission - they don't try to differentiate, they just google the studies which appease their theories.

Nothing to gain here.

Saged.
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>>138166471
>There are many studies show negative effects on cognition and motivation.

Yes. It can. It really can do those things. Absolutely. Depends on Strain.
Some of it? Will have you thinking 900 miles an hour and going even faster.
It depends on what you smoke.
That's why you're getting stories on here of people who have been successful while smoking a ton. And I've known people I'd call " successful " who smoked way more than me.
And I'm successful as far as I'm concerned with a nice house and a nice car.
It's because they weren't smoking the stuff that makes them face plant into the desk while they're trying to study. They instead smoked the stuff that relaxed them and made their minds race with ideas and motivation.
Yes weed can do this too.
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>>138166709
>derived a greater percentage of their earnings from the non-work option
So pot smokers are smart enough to not work hard when they can get same money for less effort? Didn't know weed increases intelligence and make you less sheepy.
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>>138166635
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376871604002066
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>>138166847
>Czech attitude towards work
No wonder your country is still poor.
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>>138149677
and this is where i draw the line on /pol/ ideals

It LITERALLY. is just a fucking plant. its not addictive either. i stopped for an entire year once because my financial situation got bad for a bit. never had a craving or anything.
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>>138166865
Altered =/= Bad, stop eating food high on carbs and your brain structure also changes, next?
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>>138166847
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/396766
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>>138163358
the only compound in weed worth fully utilizing is cbd, and even then we have manufactured drugs which can do everything it can do but better. I personally believe they make pharmaceuticals addictive on purpose to increase the likelihood of you seeking them out and feeding pharma companies more monies eventually.
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>>138166922
Better than being Israeli colony and mostly nonwhite country where you get fired from a job for incorrect opinion or hurting someone's feeling.
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>>138158418
i don't smoke weed because i can't find it in this country. but some loser with a terabyte of anime gifs is definitely on the same level if not worse than a pot smoker. we generally only have the weeb losers, and their cringey tryhard edge trolling is unbelievably fucking sad
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>>138167088
Says the porn and prostitution capital of Europe. We are fucking 50% white and still have a standard of living double any Slav country.
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>>138167005
>However, the question remains open as to whether this impairment is due to a residue of drug in the brain, a withdrawal effect from the drug, or a frank neurotoxic effect of the drug.
So they don't know why, just that you can't play chess as good as sober after getting high and few hours later, what a disaster.
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>>138166945
haha just a plant bro

just a plant
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>>138167226
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/92dd/06df3616143db5bae0699a7d5c0828caca16.pdf
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>>138167133
muh anime
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>>138167173
Give me free uncontested ladnmass with rich resources and I can laugh too. I'd prefer porn and protistution over your feminism and black liver matter. Oh and you don't have better standard, your country is richer and more relevant, yes, but you live on debt, in cardboard houses and eat literal shit, not what I would call 'higher standard'.
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>>138158914
gamers are losers.
it's an unproductive hobby that has little to show for at the end of the day. especially mmorpgs. if you play these, you're not developing anything unless you're a guild leader, and even then, you could be the captain of a sports team and have built up fitness and real camaraderie, not just hoping losers obey you long enough to get their shinies
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>>138166709

> Non work option
So in other words it's saying they sit around at home all day and not work? This can happen on the stuff yes. CAN.
You can sit and be amused all day long watching some boring movie for the 6th time just because you have a joint in your hand.
Environments which could be normally quite boring and yield cabin fever to the person over time, will not, as long as the person has some weed. Because weed, makes nothing at all quite entertaining. And a person can get into a mode of this. Indefinitely.
Where they are so easily amused because of the use of constant weed....why do anything at all? Why leave the house?
Yes I've seen this too.
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>>138167359
muh muh muh loser memes muh muh muh

kill yourself you fat piece of shit.
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>>138167427
Whatever you say slavshit.
>Average Czech salary $11472
>Average Black American salary $18,406
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>>138167427
San Marino is a landlocked dot, and look at their standard of living.
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>>138149677
>>138150292
You are not worthy of using the spaghetti meme.
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>>138167308
tl;dr, not gonna read all that shit, seems that only 'low neurotoxicity, no deaths reported' seems only relevant sentence I caught with a glimpse
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>>138167444

No video games don't produce anything. Nor does fiction literature when read. Or a movie when watched. It's all the same. A video game is often an interactive story. And the interactivity is the only thing really making it very different from books and movies.
It's a waste of time. Granted. But fun is often just that.
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>>138167584
this poster, definitely a nigger. or at least a sheep

>"hur dur, the news and cops and my government tell me weed is bad so it must be, they always tell the truth!"
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>>138167663
Didn't know they were raped by various Imperiums thorough history like us but whatever.
>>138167584
And? I still don't live in debt and don't have to fill bankrupcy when wanting a degree or breaking an arm.
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>>138149677
Here's the way I see it...
Basically, if a guy smokes weed, but he has his shit together then I don't care.
On the other hand, if he smokes to make his stagnant life feel more tolerable, such that he perpetuates the same behaviors and lacks the motivation to change because the weed makes video games good enough for fulfillment, then it's a problem.
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>>138167864
Yeah because niggers don't smoke weed and being pro weed is what all the sheep are doing.
>>138167872
>debt debt debt
Half of our nogs are criminals and welfare queens. I was pointing out what a lazy attitude to work leads to.
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>>138168105
*anti
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>>138149677
Nice strawman, leaflet
Its called freedom
You Canadians probably don't know what that is with all that cultural enrichment being shoved up your ass
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>>138168105
Richest people don't work at all, your point?
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>>138167902

Damn wise.
You're saying there's a difference between a person who can have a few drinks every once in awhile and handle it fine.
And a person who is a raging degenerative alcoholic who can't handle it.
Agreed. Weed CAN be too much for some people to handle.
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>>138168195
Somebody did though to secure their families luxury.
>>
> be an anarchist in highschool
> really degenerate
> have degenerate friends
> buy LSD from friend at school
> take LSD regularly
> realise that leftism doesn't accurately represent reality
> realise my own degeneracy
> qt white fiancée
> be a welder
> qt wife wants 4 babies
> adopt Germanic Heathenry to embrace traditionalism
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>>138167427
You speak the truth tbqh.
Kill me. America was supposed to be the promised land for Europeans. Now it's obese animals tattooing themselves and eating shit. And don't listen to larpers, most Americans are poor as shit and our money is barely worth it's weight in paper and we're taxed to death yet our infrastructure and culture and schooling is a joke.
Just look at American parents. We have no future.
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>>138168257
probably employees who work hard for the same money expecting they get more
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>>138168361
Glad to see the "oppressed worker" mentality persists after almost 30 years.
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>>138168263
> take LSD regularly
> realise that leftism doesn't accurately represent reality
See? That was the LSD. Look at all it did for you!
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
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>>138168204
That can be said about anything though. Not comparing this to weed, but there are many functional coke addicts on Wall Street.
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>>138168418
What the fuck are you talking about? I work as much as I get paid, that's literally it. I get mediocre pay (low for you standard) so I do mediocre work (which you probably couldn't because of obesity). If you give maximum work for minimum wage then it's your choice of being cuck.
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>>138168105
>pro weed is what all the sheep are doing

Some yes, but the majority of people that smoke weed because its trendy dont do it for more than a year, I know I am a bud tender and work at a dispensary.

No see i called you a sheep because If you had actually tried weed with an open mind you would understand its benefits, but you didn't, your mind is closed and anyone who has a different opinion is just wrong.

weed isnt for everyone my brother hates it, sister doesnt care for it or love it, and i love it, but I dont go around calling people who dont like it and drink or smoke cigs degenerates.
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>>138149677
average alcoholic's argument
>muh muh drink just a drink just a drink it's just a drink my drink guys it's just a drink muh drink muh drink

reminder that if you are against legalized and regulated marijuana you must also be against legalized and regulated alcohol, because both long-term kill you and short-term impair you.
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>>138168598
> get mediocre pay (low for you standard) so I do mediocre work (which you probably couldn't because of obesity). If you give maximum work for minimum wage then it's your choice of being cuck
Great work ethics! I have been to Prague, and I saw several Ferraris and exotics. There are big corporations there. You just refuse to try.
>>138168600
>I am a budtender
Just when I thought I have heard everything
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>>138151762
underage b7
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>>138149677
Funny how they think smoking cigarettes is bad for you but weed isn't.
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>>138168757
>calls out me personally instead of my argument

sigh... I cant say i expected an intelligent response
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>>138168757
>refuse to try
you seem to forgot that I already have a job that I'm content with, if I need more money there are plenty 'untaxed' options
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>>138168874
Lol it is 3:30 in the morning, I just feel like shitposting. Want an actual response? I used to be a major pothead. The "benefits" are a high and pain relief. Obviously there are other benefits for people with medical conditions. The negatives are that it makes you want to do nothing and kills motivation. I understand that you can fight through it, but it still makes people want to not do shit. There are the obvious negative effects of smoking anything. It really is not as magical as everyone claims. You just feel good.
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>>138149677
ITT: a bunch of over-reacting faggots who are unable to sort themselves out so they get off by telling others how to live their lives.
Fucking neck yourself OP you fat piece of shit. Get a job.
t. Pissed leaf
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>>138149677
(you)
there you go champ
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>>138168937
Yes, you are content with less. Nothing wrong with it, but by saying because CZ is not the US, that it can't be first world is wrong.
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>>138149677
Smoking pot is degenerate. I have been clean for years and would trade this point in my life for all the years I did smoke it. Shit is fucking commie juice.
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>>138153607
There are enough of those who drink. So bring you bootlickers control desires on alcoholics.
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>>138169328
It's a decent place, by not being 'first world' is probably what saved us from muslim hordes because even if we accept occasional dynamite unicorn they still try to run for germany within a wekk or two because no 2000€gibs/month for being nonwhite.
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>>138169228
>Lol it is 3:30 in the morning, I just feel like shitposting.

That's okay. It was still a good debate. Even if you were just playing the other side. I don't care.
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>>138149677
I'm legally vaping pure THC right now because I feel like it.

Leaf opinions are irrelevant.
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>>138169228
>You just feel good.
actually sounds like a magic
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>>138169228
>It really is not as magical as everyone claim

This.
I fully agree, In my mind its slightly better than alcohol but not by much, its just substance choice.

as far for the kills motivation part im not sure i agree, but maybe it is because i use it to motivate my self? I will smoke after a long day or after i have done something useful
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>>138169912
If you think weed is magic, don't try other drugs.
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>>138170075
I've probably gone through more drugs than you, but besides weed and alcohol they didn't impress me longterm, maybe opiates will but I'm saving those for being old and hurtful.
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>>138170162
Doubtful. Opiates are not that good imo. 80mg of Adderall though is fucking insane.
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>>138169940
It is better than alcohol, for sure. The motivation is mostly an observation for me. The only time I noticed it is if I was trying to go to the gym. However, I have seen how my friends treat school since we started college and they care much less as long as they get C's
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>>138170214
We will see, glad I got you away from shitposting for a while at least, my job is done, see ya later (after night shift so I need to catch some sleep).
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>>138149677
not all potsmokers are delusional. i know damn well its downsides and that i'm addicted to it. but i like to choose my addictions. anime, weed, and shitposting. shitposting is the most destructive.

>>138151514
interesting, i never really enjoyed weed until i tried it after having tripped a ton.

>>138158914
benzos act on gaba a, alcohol acts on gaba a. to ignore the similarities is senseless. of course to draw too many is also senseless, but addiction to gabaergics is all pretty similar in my experience. now heroin is nothing similar.
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>>138170566
>they care much less as long as they get C's

definitely man I think it depends on the person too imo, some people can handle it some can't, I had to pretty much lecture one of my friends to smoke less because for some reason he just like cant handle it, it makes him lazy and literally retarded
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>>138160185
underrated
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>>138170214
Also, don't do fucking adderall. That shit fucks up your heart, sleep, and diet.
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>>138170162
heh i used to want to do that but i got hooked on them for a period. now i cant enjoy them at all, they just make me opirage like a motherfucker. they are only good if you take them on very, very rare occasions, the magic goes fast. and it doesnt come back.
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>>138167039
you are on the right track but its more of a happy accident than on purpose i'd say. and a lack of research into alternatives once it was discovered just how happy the accident was. you dont get to choose how you want your pharmaceuticals, science dont work like that. i wish it did though, i sure as hell wish it did.

also theres more than cbd,cbg for example. thc does have uses too although ime not as many medically sound ones as a lot of users would say.
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>>138149677

My potsmoker argument: I smoke weed because I can. Come at me.
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>>138150620
can I trust someone whom only trusts other addicts?
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>>138156480
>what is living life on lifes terms?
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>>138163309
It will if burgerfats can stop acting like massive pussies
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>>138171413
>thc does have uses too although ime not as many medically sound ones as a lot of users would say.
It literally stops seizures and cluster headaches, cures speech impediments and PTSD/panic attacks, hangovers, sunburns and inflammation 25X better than ibuprophen. Stfu about "as a lot of user's would say"
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>>138177253
too much weed isn't good for you, you turn into a weirdo
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