The holocaust happened

>>138148759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rhGMCYWqKI

How come every death camp was found only inside Russian territory? Which is more likely: Hitler killed eleven million people while fighting a two front war, or the allies changed some numbers around to try to make Russia not seem evil?

How about lurk more, faggot.
>Sage

>>138149179
not an argument

>>138148759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtAnuXl5VZY

Why are survivors living today numbered tattooed, when they were babies in the camp, yet the tattoo is adult sized.? Supposedly Women who could not work and children were weeded out and killed. Sopeaking of the tattoos sizes and formats match even among survivors from the same camp. For a methodical and detailed oriented people like the Germans, this seems very implausible. Why waste time tattooing thousands of people if you are soon going to kill them? Did they need to tell one jew from another? This is akin to branding cattle right before they are slaughtered, makes no common sense. You only tattoo those who are going to be around a long time and why not on the forehead or the face so they could be instantly recognized iif thy escaped? No these are tattoos given out to he millions of refugees who and no ID or paperwork and mostly were in hospitals. You track people you want o keep, like you track your dog with an ID chip, it's valuable to you.

>>138150379
Considering the Germans are and were such a sophisticated people specifically in times of war, this does raise a lot questions.

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>>138148759


Usually this is the point where I dump all of the memes of truth about the fake holocaust, but honestly....you are too late.

You came to the party too late. Maybe a year ago it would of been worth it.

Long story short:

-The Holocaust was a lie. The reason the Jews painted the Germans as "evil" was because the Germans had kicked out all the Jews who owned the banks, the media, etc.
-Like today, the Jews were brainwashing people while stealing the money of the people.

Hitler was right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

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>>138151756

The reason why I mention you are too late is because the time of awakening and salvation was just a couple of months ago.

We are already in the "End Game" of this whole shit show.

But who knows, maybe you can still be saved if you research it yourself.

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>>138148759
Yep, totally happened. I got photos.

>>138148759
9/11 happened, it just wasnt 30000 jews.

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>neva forget the 60000000000000000000

>>138148759
Spend some time digging and you'll end up convinced it was wildly mischaracterized and outright fraudulent
Propaganda play that is still paying

There is was never any traces of the (((alleged))) hydrogen cyanide gas, no orders to kill jews, merely corral them and then deport, they declared war on Germany, prior to that they were robbing Germany, They died from Allied bombing of the food and water trains. The little cremation ovens took a day to burn 1 body and what the jews are saying is thousands were burned a lie. There were 2 million jews in Europe at the time so were is this ludacris 6 million total appear from? From a holohoax bu$ine$$ thats from where.

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>>138148759
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBA2zp992c

>>138148759
We debate that the death toll is inflated as hell

>>138154142
If I see that fucking jew one more time.

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>>138148759
Debunk this, kike. From Majdanek.

this:>>138151756

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>>138148759
I didn't see it. Clearly the media can't be trusted. I mean, they faked the fucking moon landing and told me hilldawg was gonna be president.

The question is not if it happened. The real question is why are jews using it as an excuse to shut down any kind of ethnonatioanlism and brainwash us with guilt which needs to be paid in blood (immigration of shitskins).

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>>138148759
I don't buy it, merchant. No proofs.

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>>138148759
Zyklon B is an irrational killing method picked up because they stocked up on the pesticide for killing rodents and lice.

The killing method for Auschwitz and other camps:
>dump zyklon coated pellets into bunker filled past capacity (2000 in a 500 person room)
>No heating element to smoke the room but the zyklon magically evaporates in under 15 minutes, and no body heat cannot make zyklon fumigate the room
>all dead in under 15 mins
>3 or more sonderkommandos drag all 2000 bodies ten feet upstairs with either a small 1-2 person primitive elevator or by stair in under 10 mins
>all bodies burned in coal coke crematoria (bodies take at least 2 hours to burn via coal coke ovens, two stacked takes more than 3) in under an hour between 13-20 ovens, some claims say they burned the bodies on pyres which would take ridiculous amounts of fuel (coal-coke), some like Wiernik claim bodies "burn on their own like wood"
>bones magically disappear, and ash disappears as well
>no break between batches, no oven maintenance, loads of fuel burned
>still wouldn't be anywhere near the number claimed to have been killed and destroyed at Auschwitz between the years 1941 and 1945

The holocaust is a conspiracy theory, complete tinfoil, cooked up by the Soviets and ran by the allies to suppress Germany sympathizers after the war.

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>>138155049
My apology, if you're actually serious.. I'm just tired of people posting these threads like every 3 hours.
>pic related is the """gas chamber""" at majdanek

>>138148759
did not
research yourself like we all did
>watch the greatest story never told
>watch communism by back door
there 's a good start

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>>138148759
How about return back to 9gag faggot

>>138155722
the watch Hellstorm

>>138155420
>wood doors

>>138156366
also had nice bath before death

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>>138154814

lol get used to it buddy boi

le happy merchant is pols mascot

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>>138156366
Ikr? Not to mention windows etc.
The only *only slightly plausible* site for a gas chamber would have been Auschwitz, and there's no way in hell 1 site could reach 6 million deaths.
>pic related is some of the activities that were going on in Auschwitz

>>138148759
Can we just agree the disagree on the alleged holocaust? We can go halfers.

>deniers agree to not be abusive about it for the rest of eternity and promise to bring it up again as long it isn't brought up to them.

>affirmers agree to recognize the Holdomor and drop the guilt game over something that was very profitable for the jews; considering it allegedly happened decades ago.

>>138157001
no. I can't stand the injustice of it, the germans suffered far more than any jew

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>>138157001
That's never going to happen. See US congress voting to acknowledge and commemorate the Aremenian genocide. The jews refused any mention of other genocides. The holocaust has been made into a semi-religious cult.

the Devil - Hitler
Devil worshipers - neo-Nazis, fascists, racists, skinheads, eugenicists, and so on
cursed people - Germans and Whites generally
blasphemy/heresy - Holocaust denial
blasphemy/heresy laws - Holocaust denial laws
pilgrimages to holy places - mass travels to Holocaust concentration camps and other places connected with the Holocaust
places of worship elsewhere - numerous museums, Yad Vashem, and so on. See also List of Holocaust memorials and museums.
holy days - Holocaust Memorial Days
holy scriptures - the Posen speeches, the Wannsee Protocol, the Hossbach Memorandum, Anne Frank's diary, and so on
relics - Holocaust memorabilia displayed in the argued places of worship and traded on, for example, Ebay
icons - Holocaust photographs, holograms of Holocaust survivors, and so on
morality plays - Holocaust movies and television series
martyrs - Holocaust victims
saints - Holocaust survivors
apostles - notable Holocaust witnesses
holy warriors - Nazi hunters, anti-racists, social justice warriors, and so on
Golgotha - Auschwitz
the cross - the gas chamber
resurrection - creation of Israel
offerings, penances, and indulgences - payments and privileges to various groups and Israel
prophets - alarmists alarming of a new Holocaust if not obeyed such as when lobbying for starting wars on various perceived enemies of Israel
religious profanity - Godwin's Law

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also OP - you may question what happened by whats been posted here thus far

if you actually dig deep into the literature and youtube related content - you'll find the downloads and view counts extremely small. ive found most people on here think it was a hoax because they see the memes etc. and take peoples word.

the truth is that the holocaust is portrayed as the worst thing to ever happen etc. when in fact it wasn't, the overall number is slightly inflated and is used by jewish groups to unfair advantage and fr propaganda purposes (many camps which were declared deathcamps postwar were in fact not) but even the most hardcore denier-scholars (mottogno, graf etc.) who do nothing but research the holocaust in a scientific rational manner have no fact based or rational explanation for the following statements in regard to the Aktion Reinhardt camps in the East:

1. during the war period MILLIONS of jews disappeared (mostly eastern european jews from polish ghettos), never to be seen or heard from ever again, they were all last seen in the custody of the national socialist government on a train headed east

2. Reinhardt camps cannot be explained any other way other than death camps - no labor was done at them, no product was produced - and MILLIONS of people were recorded sent there in 42-43 and never seen again
where did these people go?

>>138158254
The Reinhardt supposed "extermination" camps are based on really bad evidence. 5 documents and 2 on hearsay.

>>138158254
>during the war period MILLIONS of jews disappeared (mostly eastern european jews from polish ghettos), never to be seen or heard from ever again, they were all last seen in the custody of the national socialist government on a train headed east
This is just hilarious. I actually had a laugh. You described it as some biblical story. Immigration.

>>138148759
To me... the stories of my grandfather and other ALIED soldiers, civilians in countries like holland, germany etc who were witnesses to camp survivors and liberated the camps had no horse in the race but their testimony is there to be read few of them that are left can still tell you if they are willing to talk about that shit...

It happened. SO what move along deal with real problems in life and history not one of the best documented genocides in history.

>>138160149
t.80 IQ
Nice anecdotal evidence. Camps =/= gas chambers, holocausters and masturbation machines. I would really like to know what camp in Holland you are talking about.

>>138159966


I agree its extremely overblown and agree with many many "denier" points

As I've said I have read all the handbooks and codoh literature as most people here havent

Mottogno himself went to Treblinka to do the Krege report using ground penetrating radar looking for evidence of mass graves, ash deposits etc.

this report was never released.


mottogno uses the transit camp theory but cannot give more than a few measly names of jews who were transited through any single reinhardt camp and ended up in the East AT ANY TIME after the war. 1 million people would have been "transited east" through Treblinka alone - and cant give more than a few names?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vN3N1sTcAQ&t=1810s


Secretly recorded post warInterview with an SS Treblinka guard - describes in great details what was going on inside the camp. Quite damning - I have no reason to disbelieve anything he is saying along with lack of denier evidence.

>>138160623
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amersfoort_concentration_camp

My grandfather was THERE... as a canadian solider he had seen some shit.. done shit in italy, france and holland.. and what he and so many encountered at the camp was horrifying.

He had no horse in the race no reason to lie just a witness.

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>>138148759

Fred A. Leuchter Report

>also the peace symbol is an inverted pagan rune upside down meaning death

KYS faggot

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>>138160149

>classic muh grandpa story


Allied soldiers actually contributed very little to what happened during the holocaust - which ended in 1944 prior to any liberations by the Allies.

Allied soldiers saw emaciated bodies, prisoners etc. - any gas chambers, mass graves and in some cases entire camps were completely razed to the ground before allies arrived.

What they saw were concentration camps and standard fair for what one would expect - this in no way is evidence of genocide.


It wasnt very well documented as most evidence was destroyed including german documents, no blueprints currently exist and there are few survivors of any "real" death camp - only 2 people escaped from Treblinka, for example. It wasnt well-documented at all - most evidence was eye witness evidence, an extremely poor form of evidence by standard of law

>>138161188


your grandfather saw concentration camps - no death camp existed outside of Poland

every nation involved in the second world war used concentration camps - including the Americans

this proves literally nothing

stop

>>138161294
No you are absolutely RIGHT the germans has destroyed evidence, documents, structure and millions of people.

BUT to me the witnesses from the Allied forces were neutral WITNESS to the survivors of the Holocaust an active concerted, military, political and industrial slaughter of a specific religious minority.

>>138161604
Bergen-Belsen in Germany had forsure been used to 'liquidate' jews. And the allies witnessed it. However the MORE convincing evidence of the 'liquidation'/mass murder was in more eastern camps... BUT the allied witness are enough to PROVE the German National Socialist government was actively trying to exterminate any jews they could find.... PROOF of the holocaust.

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>>138161975


bergan belson was not an extermination camp and was willingly turned over to the allies by the Germans who warned the approaching allies to becareful entering the camp due to the typhus epidemic which had been raging inside the camp for months after supply lines were cutoff by allied bombing

were some rioting prisoners lined up and shot against the wall? this is not "liquidation"

as you said any "liquidating" happened in the east - allies had nothing to do with gathering any useful evidence for german war crimes against jews. im sure your grandfather was a good man but his experiences prove nothing

>>138148759

Krematorium I has two vital functions: first, its present rote of being the only Auschwitz Krematorium where a gas chamber can be visited (in summer sometimes by as many as 5 000 to 7 000 people of various nationalities per day)...

...Unlike Krematorien II, III, IV and V, there are very few German documents concerned with Krematorium I. These do not make it possible to formally establish proof of homicidal gassing in its morgue


Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers, Jean Claude Pressac.

The only building standing at Auschwitz claimed to have been a gas chamber cannot be proven as such and has been reconstructed.

There is no proof there were ever any gas chambers at Auschwitz.

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>>138148759
Sure, sure.

>>138162132

>tfw poland alone had 2 million jewish residents pre war

this is hilarious

stop posting this garbage - there is plenty here with correct facts you can be posting

>>138157909
Fucking happened during the communist infiltration of our education system immediately post war. Never forget this though. The biggest german mistake was not differentiating the jews from the elites. The elites wear the skin of jewish culture to hide, to play the untouchable victim. Its carefully groomed, and maintained. The race game is a little worthless game compared to the bigger truth. The Jews that know are traitors to their own people, benefiting off the backs of their kin. Israel hates hollywood...I can go on for a while. Just think about it.

I seek nationalism, a return to sanity, tradition, communities with common values, and a place for every man. Cops that sought to keep peace, not make tithes off the population.

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>>138148759
listen up you faggot
I am pissed off because kikes stole Polish deaths and used them to raise their own death toll to look like proffesional victims they are
also, half of those holocaust stories are false, as in
>bear and eagle
>1 SS putting kikes in a row and shooting 12 through heads with one bullet
>prince of persia razors on wall chamber in basement
>acid pool
>chimney not connected to gas chamber and built after war
>masturbation machines
but it was real in their minds so it justifies preferential treatment of kikes everywhere across the globe, but Poles cannot do that, even if more of us died

>>138148759
ONE OF US ONE OF US

>>138148759

Honestly I think Nazis try to drill this into innocent peoples heads to make it easier to swallow their "red pill". If you don't have to think about the millions of people killed at the hands of nazis, its easier to become one. People need to wake up and stop claiming "fake reality". It's time to wake up. It happened. And you are supporting an ideology that wants something even worse to happen. Step back and look.

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>>138163182
This turns out to be fake.

>>138149863
It's not supposed to be an argument you fucking worm turd,
it's an instruction to lurk moar you thick cunt

>>138163090
Just to add to this, you can easily tell the guy driving the tractor on the right is British because he's wearing a beret.

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Jews have no problem lying about millions of alleged victims to achieve their political goals.

The jews can kiss my hairy ass!

>>138148759
>it CLEARLY fucking happened
oh... ok... kid ...

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>>138148759
Fuck off yidnigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs

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>okay so the holocaust might not have happened BUT NAZISM IS EVIL BECAUSE IT'S (((SOCIALIST)))
Think again

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>>138162351
Can't find him on Wikipedia

>>138148759
holocoaster is the biggest holocaust redpill you can take


nothing subtle about the fact it's a lie.

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>>138164190
>The spirits among German nationalists kept whispering to one another their suspicion, that basically we were only a variation of marxism, maybe even marxists or some kind of socialists in disguise

>How often we shook with laughter at these simple-minded, scared rabbits with their clever guesswork about our origin, our intentions, and our aim.

>>138164298
Try a bit harder?
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Roger_Dommergue

>>138162924
Exactly. And it doesn't even make sense. "Oh yeah we hate Jews and want to kill them all and the Nazis agreed with us and were the best ever but that part where the Nazis killed millions of Jews didn't happen because it was just a Jewish trick and it turns out the weak Jew outsmarted the genius Nazis."

wew lad

most people dont think the holocaust didn't happen, just that Hitler did not intend to harm the Jews just ended up doing so by pressure from the German people

>>138164847
Wow someone predicted the future accurately, guess muh holocaust never happened

>>138163422

Your picture and post suggests an unquestionable conclusion, and it references a particular article for support.

You may find the article you cited quite interesting, with far more caution than you convey. It's possible that reading is not your strong suit.

>>138148759
Yeah it did happen and we want it to happen again...fuck stop being pussies, we let Jews in and they have utterly betrayed us lets go to war

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>>138164845
Good goy, ignore the mountain of hard evidence against the narrative posted in this thread.

>>138165064
Ah so the great leader of the white race was tricked into it. Dastardly! Also if it did happen, it would have been good, but there's no way it could have even if everyone in charge wanted it to and talked about it constantly and then documented their system to kill millions of people

>>138162924
>People need to wake up and stop claiming "fake reality". It's time to wake up. It happened.

Prove it happend. Show me a gas chamber.

>>138165064


*pressure from the war - there was no extermination policy or plan even at the start of the war

wannsee conference did not even occur until Jan 42 during the first winter in Russia


its possible Hitler didnt want to know the details himself and left it to SS - he really did want to send them "east" or to Madagascar before war went badly.

>>138148759
It happened. But the 6 million figure is grossly exaggerated. Try 1.8 million, that's substantiated by history and records. And keep in mind that that number includes dissidents, gypsies, foreign intelligentsia, mental patients, and people who died from disease while being imprisoned.

>>138165375
He merely let his minions kill millions of innocent people he ordered rounded up and imprisoned out of spite because they were losing a war he started

Critics of Holocaust denial also include members of the Auschwitz SS. Camp physician and SS-Untersturmführer Hans Münch considered the facts of Auschwitz "so firmly determined that one cannot have any doubt at all", and described those who negate what happened at the camp as "malevolent" people who have "personal interest to want to bury in silence things that cannot be buried in silence".[170] Zyklon B handler and SS-Oberscharführer Josef Klehr has said that anyone who maintains that nobody was gassed at Auschwitz must be "crazy or in the wrong".[171] SS-Unterscharführer Oswald Kaduk has stated that he does not consider those who maintain such a thing as normal people.[172] Hearing about Holocaust denial compelled former SS-Rottenführer Oskar Gröning to publicly speak about what he witnessed at Auschwitz, and denounce Holocaust deniers,[173] stating:

I would like you to believe me. I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when the selections took place. I would like you to believe that these atrocities happened because I was there.

>>138165146


dude - you guys arent responding to anything I posted ^ regarding Reinhardt. seems you all want to post your holohoax folder but do not respond to further questioning


some made up jewish legends about eagles and bears doesnt mean nothing happened.

Show me the traces of a mass grave 50 metres x 30 metres x 10 metres deep at the Treblinka II site.

There are supposed to have been several of these gigantic holes.

According to researchers Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman, there is a "convergence of evidence" that proves that the Holocaust happened. This evidence includes:[193]
Jewish World Population without Holocaust (mln people) by Sergio DellaPergola
Written documents—hundreds of thousands of letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches, articles, memoirs, and confessions.
Eyewitness testimony—accounts from survivors, Jewish Sonderkommandos (who helped load bodies from the gas chambers into the crematoria in exchange for a chance of survival), SS guards, commandants, local townspeople, and even high-ranking Nazis who spoke openly about the mass murder of the Jews.
Photographs—including official military and press photographs, civilian photographs, secret photographs taken by survivors, aerial photographs, German and Allied film footage, and unofficial photographs taken by the German military.
The camps themselves—concentration camps, work camps, and extermination camps that still exist in varying degrees of originality and reconstruction.
Inferential evidence or argument from silence — population demographics, reconstructed from the pre–World War II era; if six million Jews were not killed, what happened to them?

>>138165478
This most of the deaths were via starvation since the allies were bombing tha supply lines.As germnay leaders what are you going to do?Feed the subhumans,traitors and jewish parasytes in the concentration camps or your soldiers and people.
The allies knew they fucked up tremeandously since they indirectly caused the death of those prisoners so the muh gasschambers narrative was born.

>>138165596
>Critics of Holocaust denial also include members of the Auschwitz SS. Camp physician and SS-Untersturmführer Hans Münch considered the facts of Auschwitz "so firmly determined that one cannot have any doubt at all", and described those who negate what happened at the camp as "malevolent" people who have "personal interest to want to bury in silence things that cannot be buried in silence".[170] Zyklon B handler and SS-Oberscharführer Josef Klehr has said that anyone who maintains that nobody was gassed at Auschwitz must be "crazy or in the wrong".[171] SS-Unterscharführer Oswald Kaduk has stated that he does not consider those who maintain such a thing as normal people.[172] Hearing about Holocaust denial compelled former SS-Rottenführer Oskar Gröning to publicly speak about what he witnessed at Auschwitz, and denounce Holocaust deniers,[173] stating:
>I would like you to believe me. I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when the selections took place. I would like you to believe that these atrocities happened because I was there.

Of course they said that for their new masters sweetie. They lost the war.

Hoess even confessed to killing 4 million people at Auschwitz, a figure 4 times higher than is now claimed.

>>138165767
>The camps themselves—concentration camps, work camps, and extermination camps that still exist in varying degrees of originality and reconstruction.

This is all I'm interested in, the remains of the camps themselves. There is no trace of the Holocaust at the sites.

>>138149110
Well, given that the Nazis talked about getting rid of the Jews, and given that they had no qualms about killing mentally ill people (Aktion T4) or killing their own former allies (SA) or letting Russian POWs starve to death, and given that they engaged in multiple surprise attacks on other countries, and given that they set up a totalitarian police state that tortured and murdered political opponents, and given that when they started losing the war they had no qualms about killing men like Rommel and then lying about it to the people, and given that it would have been much harder for the winners to have faked a nonexistent genocide of that scale than for the Nazis to have actually committed it... I'd say it's more likely Hitler killed a whole shit-ton of people, yes. Maybe not eleven million, but enough to count as a deliberate genocide of enormous proportions.

>>138165767
Yeah like Anne Franks fake diary,all those holocoast surviors with fake stories.They are kikes,they lie for a living.The jews that control the media dont tell us tge truth about what happened today and you think they will tell us the truth of what happened 80 years ago....kek.

>>138165893
That's convenient. All confessions, when they hurt your narrative, are without value. You've got a solid argument.

Show me the bodies, the bones, all the clothes or shut up.

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>>138148759
It never happened. Completely fabricated nonsense just like the easter bunny or santa.

Taught to the goyim since birth so they think inside a box designed by the jew media.

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>>138148759

Reminder the Holohoax was invented in the 1970s.

WHAT IS HOGANS HEROS? AND WHY WERE JEWS COOL WITH THE HOLHOAX UNTIL THE 1970s?????

The answer may suprise you.

So what? Why should we care? People die every day. I'm not Jewish, so why should I give a shit about them?

>>138148759

These three films are all that you will ever need to know about the Holocaust:

Buchenwald a Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o

One Third of the Holocaust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwku0UFB8_s

Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvIqT6eCEjM

>>138166132
We are outjewing the jew,if enough people belive the holocaust is real then it will be,but if enough people will deny it will be fake.
The important question at this time is does it even matter anymore?Only an ethno fascist sistem will save the white race and this time we need to carry out a complete extermination of jews at planetary level.

>>138166074
>Well, given that the Nazis talked about getting rid of the Jews, and given that they had no qualms about killing mentally ill people (Aktion T4)

did they really kill mentaly ill people? what's the cast iron proof that happened?

>>138165767
But who gives a shit? If Jews are so clever they should have figured a way out of it.

>>138165596
>[172] Hearing about Holocaust denial compelled former SS-Rottenführer Oskar Gröning to publicly speak about what he witnessed at Auschwitz, and denounce Holocaust deniers,[173] stating:
>I would like you to believe me. I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when the selections took place. I would like you to believe that these atrocities happened because I was there.
he actually did not say "gas chambers" - he only said crematoria - the gas chamber bit was added into the english translation - original german can be heard on the backing track which does not say anything about gas chambers.


nobody doubts terrible things happened in Auschwitz but the original gas chambers are no longer standing.

to my knowledge the only testimony from an Auschwitz guard was of the 2nd commandant Autimeyer(?) who mentioned small number of gassings in the "red and white houses" - small brick chambers built early on and demolished months later after little use

Im not aware of any testimony of guards in regard to the supposed "Krema I & II" chambers. Does it exist? link that please

>>138166181
You've never seen piles of dead and rotting concentration camp inmates? You jest. Are you new... to the planet?

>>138166132
>That's convenient. All confessions, when they hurt your narrative, are without value. You've got a solid argument.

How many people were killed at Auschwitz? 4 million as Hoess 'confessed', or 1 million as it now states at the site?

>>138166456
Now prove to me they died from zyklon-b poisoning...

>>138166281
We don't need your caring. Just don't kill us, if you know what's good for you and your people.

>>138166456
Yep but death cause for most of those was starvation no gassing and they keep showong the same pictures over and over again.Its like there were not so manny of them and fabricated.

>>138148759
holocaust denial is planted disinfo to distract and discredit.

You may try to persuade the average person with your perfect theories, ideals and arguments 1-100 but then you get to, annddd the holocaust didnt happen! And you have just shifted the overton window towards pretty bad optics giving yourself adversity.

>>138166456
>You've never seen piles of dead and rotting concentration camp inmates?

Typhus victims, this is well known.

>>138166550
So you're threatening the world with nuclear annihilation if Israel doesn't get its way... Okay, Kim Jong Kike.

>>138166367
Again, solid argument. Good luck with that reasoning.

>>138166550
Oh look its a kike get gassed you fucking rat of course its the JIDF.

>>138166369
It wasn't done in nearly as much secrecy as other Nazi killings, and it was so widely known that it was happening that public disgust actually caused the Nazis to call it off.
A discussion of sources here:
https://forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=45327

>>138166411
We did. It took some time, but we as a people got out. We remain the rulers of your universe. Smaller in number, but stronger.

>>138166651
I don't give a shit who they are, we don't owe these people anything. Jews definitely live up to their stereotype if they were able to get ahold of a state, the most holy site on the planet, just because a couple of their comrades died in a war that killed a hundred million people worldwide. I guarantee you there's more to that story. Israel is effectively blackmailing the world, not with simply nuclear weapons, but with some sort of information that they would threaten to reveal if they didn't get their own state in 1948.

>>138166509
>>138166570
OK So the Nazis starved millions of jews to death,and played around with gas. How is this not a holocaust?

Personally I think the gas narrative was played up because it made the extermination of jews a particular evil heinous thing, whereas starvation could have been partially attributed to the interruption of supply lines by allied campaign, and thus allowing the Germans to shoulder some of the blame.

This does not negate the fact that the Nazi regime deliberately displaced and concentrated jews within their reach.

>>138166762
Don't worry you're easy to spot I'm sure everybody's going to figure it out sooner rather than later. You can't help but be what you are. Devious, deceitful little rats. Plus you're not really the chosen people anyway. Amalakite. You know what the Bible said to do with the Amalakites, right?

>>138148759
Nazis put jews in camps yes, but they didn't massacre all the jews. Stalin did that when soviets took over east germany. Stalin had already purged jews from the USSR, and when he occupies Germany he finds camps full of jews. What does he do? He just lets them go and they file legal claims for all the land and assets Stalin just won through war(remember, before Nazis took over Jews basically owned everything in Weimar and lived fat while germans starved and had to prostitute themselves to eat, which is why the Nazis put jews to work in the camps)? Much easier to just kill all the jews and blame it on Nazis.
Incidentally, the only death camps were in the parts of germany stalin occupied. No death camps in US areas because US didn't kill all the jews they found.
US complied with the big lie that Nazis killed the jews because they wanted to stay on good terms with Soviet Russia, and when the relationship fell apart they couldn't tell America the truth because it would show how big liars they were.

>>138166727
>It wasn't done in nearly as much secrecy as other Nazi killings, and it was so widely known that it was happening that public disgust actually caused the Nazis to call it off.
>A discussion of sources here:
>https://forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=45327

Unacceptable source. Consists largely of forum posts making unsourced claims.

>>138163182
>>138163199
What was the point of this?
How does that help ?

>>138166928
And your point is? It's called a war; the Jews were a subversive people that were destroying the German nation and they needed to be dealt with. Problem?

holocaust denial is planted disinfo to distract and discredit.

You may try to persuade the average person with your perfect theories, ideals and arguments 1-100 but then you get to, annddd the holocaust didnt happen! And you have just shifted the overton window towards pretty bad optics giving yourself adversity.

>>138165596


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVfFHJE0e1g


Groening testimony - no mention of gas chambers. for the record

>>138166928
>OK So the Nazis starved millions of jews to death

No they didnt. Hunger became a problem for everyone in 1945 though and some Jews did die due to supply lines being bombed.

>>138167089
Could be... or maybe, those guys who repeatedly said they hated Jews, and who set up a totalitarian police state that invaded multiple countries, actually killed the Jews.
Hmm...

>>138148759
beep boop beep, running ip trace, oh what do you know, its Israel

>>138167149
What would you consider an acceptable source?

>>138167167
Lose half your total existing world population... (((re)))Gain Jerusalem.... Sounds like a fair trade.

>>138167182
Not for us, it's a problem for you. Your Reich ended.

>>138167195
But to every other people on the planet, other than Jewish people, it doesn't matter whether it happened or not. It only matters because (((they))) say it SHOULD matter and we are fool enough to believe it.

>>138148759
All I know is that I am 100% certain the mainstream narrative is lying about what actually happened. What actually did happen is the question though.

What I think is that in the grandscheme of things what actually happened was par for the course and the jews didn't suffer that much more than any other group during ww2.

There were targetted killings of jews at the hands of the nazis, but when you add up everything the allies and the soviets did, to consider what the germans did exceptionally bad and evil is inaccurate.

>>138167430
Well, you also lost Germany as a nation. Enjoy the refugees.

>>138167313
Who cares other than Jews?

>>138167452
Where do you think I'm from?

>My conscience compels me to make the following declaration. In the solitude of my prison cell, I have come to the bitter recognition that I have sinned gravely against humanity.

> As Commandant of Auschwitz, I was responsible for carrying out part of the cruel plans of the 'Third Reich' for human destruction. In so doing I have inflicted terrible wounds on humanity.

> I caused unspeakable suffering for the Polish people in particular. I am to pay for this with my life. May the Lord God forgive one day what I have done.

>>138167374
>What would you consider an acceptable source?

Proven genuine Official documents that state clearly and unequivocally that patients are being killed, names of patients killed, dates, methods, doctors involved, etc.

>>138167660
Don't cry over spilled milk.

>>138167089
Assuming this is true, I'm sure you'd find it simply evil that the Soviets did this to the Jewish people.

>>138167182
What the fuck are you saying exactly? America unanimously agrees that concentrating Japanese was a bad plan - had the supply lines to these camps been cut, we likely would have been faced with innumerable Japanese deaths and the argument would have ended the exact same way. Just because these people died of "natural causes" like starvation and Typhoid does not somehow condone these actions.

Additionally you fail to realize that these people were civilians and not soldiers. Perhaps the general vein of jewish though was "subversive" as you say, but this is no means for ROUNDING UP AND DISPLACING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.

>Oh hey, I don't like how you think. You sound like a fucking nazi. We should put you in a camp. Whoops I forgot to deliver bread and medicine well sorry guess you gotta die fucker good riddance.

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>>138167149


The T4 program is extremely widely known - hitler himself signed the order to begin the program.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4


If you do not even know basic third reich or ww2 history - why are you using that flag? embarrassing


you have to go back

>>138167374
Stromfront

>>138149110
>How come every death camp was found only inside Russian territory?
I'm not saying that the holocaust wasn't exaggerated a bit, but the reason it was more on the "Russian side" is because it was Russia that took over Germany and destroyed the Nazi army. America joined the war very late in the game. All decisive battles were already won by the Soviets. The Russian campaign spanned something like 15x the length of the American campaign, so Russians got to see a lot more.

Russians did find mass graves and liberated camps, but ofc, I still think the 6 million bit was an exaggeration.

>>138167777
>Just because these people died of "natural causes" like starvation and Typhoid does not somehow condone these actions.

Of course it does. It's a tragedy but nobody murdered them.

>>138167070
The world had its greatest opportunity to rid itself of the Jews in the 1940s, so I'm not too worried that we're easy to spot for a neck-beard upset on 4chan. Also, we're easy to spot, because we're the CEOs of the banks you deposited your money into. <3

>>138167688
And still, the question remains, what would it matter? Are you going to apologize? Are you going to give them money? Are you going to feel sorry for them, hold them close and promise never to say anything bad about them ever again? How do you think the average American feels about roughly exterminating the Native American people? Nobody gives a shit man, get over it. It was a war; people won, people lost.

>>138167747
I just think it's funny how something like holocaust denial can exist when the perpetrators admit to it

>>138165690
>some made up jewish legends about eagles and bears doesnt mean nothing happened.
The gas chamber story is just one of many crazy, impossible stories. That's the point. It was just the one that stuck.

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>>138148759
So, How do you explain the Jewish population before the war...subtract 6katrillion, then the population after the war?

>>138148759
Simple math and common sense disprove your hoaxcaust shit.

>>138167777
> assumption the Japanese internment was a bad thing.

Look up the Ni'ihau Incident and get back to me...

>>138167922
I can just as easily "not murder" you by pushing you down a shallow well and leaving you there to tread water until you eventually die of exhaustion. You're a troll and a bad one at that.

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>>138148759
Watch Cole in Auschwitz and stop shilling on /pol/ your life will be greatly improved

>>138167922

If you take prisoners you're responsible for their welfare. If you lock someone away in your basement against their will, simply because of their religion, and you do not feed them adequately, and they die, you're a murderer.

>>138167313
You need to explain why they didn't massacre the jews in the western camps. And you need to explain why they bothered to keep the jews alive in the first place instead of just massacring them all on the spot as soon as they found them. A country at war with limited resources shipping all these jews around to do what work as slave labor? You think they really produced enough to be what they were worth? And then I guess what they decided they didn't need their labor anymore and just killed half of them?

>>138167941
This.
The jews have been a protected class ever since holocaust propoganda. Before ww2 jewish stereotypes were known and openly discussed.

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>>138150021

Really? Not a single (you)? OP asked for evidence, here it is. A holocaust clearly happened, but not on the scale that is agreed upon today. Lying about something so egregious just shows the world how adamant Jews are on manipulating the victim card. It's disgusting to think about, really.

>>138167930
Just keep on doing what you're doing. Funny you keep bragging about this on 4chan. You've been able to control the narrative through control of the money supply, media and the Cathedral since World War II ended. In the Age of Information your grip on that control is slipping away. How do you think we all got here talking about it?

>>138168036
>I can just as easily "not murder" you by pushing you down a shallow well and leaving you there to tread water until you eventually die of exhaustion.

nobody intended to murder the Jewish prisoners. they were being used as labour.

>>138167763
Could you explain your insinuation a little more clearly so I don't mistakenly call you an idiot?

>>138168029
So.... you support the rounding up and internment of ethnic Japanese?

That's fine. You're now morally responsible for the well being of your internees after forcibly removing them from productive economic activities.

>>138167660

This confession is widely known to be obtained using torture

Polish post-war Auschwitz Trial in which many guards and camp inmates, survivors etc. gave testimony and 34 Germans were hung.

There was no mention of gas chambers -

At the end of the trial the death toll of Auschwitz was said to be "Below 300,000".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_trial

>>138167922
>LOOOL YOUR DYING OF TYPHOID BECAUSE I SHOVED YOU IN A CAMP!?
THATS A TRAGEDY, NOT MY FAULT THOUGH.

>>138168239
I didnt intend to murder you either, i was just interested in watching you tread water.

10/10 olympic level mental gymnastic backflip

>>138154142
>Jew next to steel beams

What did it mean by this?

>>138167989
Like I said the real question isn't whether or not it happened, it's why do we even care? Nobody was taught to care about the horrors of communism. Why should we care about the horrors inflicted on the Chosen.

>>138168231

Our grip on the media is loosening you say? And this is based on you being able to spout your nonsense? Do you not realize that we, as the Jewish people, thrive on your anger? I'm enjoying it. We let it.

>>138168140
I will say though, German supplies were cut by allied forces. Supplies that could have fed the Jews. Perhaps Nazis kept Jews alive to try and coax the allies into letting food lines through, but the allies apparently didn't give a shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sok-VlmjG8M

>>138168434
Shutup you larp

>>138168239

They were being used as labor, and the Jewish people chose those accommodations? Forced labor, inadequate supplies, without freedom to leave, resulting in disease and death... that's murder.

>>138168340
>I didnt intend to murder you either, i was just interested in watching you tread water.
>10/10 olympic level mental gymnastic backflip

Putting someone in a camp isnt killing them.

throwing them in a well is.

>>138168146
The tact that needs to be taken is sane. "Hello, my Chosen friends! The Holocaust sure was bad, shucks gosh golly, but did you personally live through the horrors of the Holocaust, hmmm? I think we need to put that behind us in the past... where it belongs.... We need to look to the future! Now, I have some questions about all these shekels you've been hoovering up and all this programming you've been pushing through our school system...."

>>138168590
Your tears, they fill me with joy. <3

>>138148759
It did happen.
There was not six millions of gassed jews though.
And compared to other historical events it's pretty insignificant and irrelevant.

>>138167552
if you care about hitlers ideas, talk to people about them, but because theres evidence at all that even 100 people died because of hitlers and the nazis actions, and their general treatment of jews, trying to prove to people that hitler and the nazis did not kill 100 or more people, may be a waste of time, thats all I am saying, and may only detract from what may be your only goal, get people interested in hitlers good ideas if he had any?

>>138168593
>They were being used as labor, and the Jewish people chose those accommodations?

If they were considered dangerous to the Reich they had to go. It was a war. These things happen.

>>138168272
>Below 300,000

Ok dude I'm just as suspicious as you are about the validity of "6.000.000" but fucking come on, 300,000 people is A LOT OF PEOPLE. That's an entire city massacred in the course of 5 years. That's a Large Western City. I'm from Spokane, which has the approximate population of 300,000 people. The entire city vanishing in 5 years is simply mind boggling.

Not to mention these were civilians killed indiscriminately.

>>138168256
Did you actually read about the Niihau Incident? To answer your question, yes. I think they should have been rounded up and thrown into camps. If you want to know the reason why I think that... look up the Ni'ihau Incident. It's quite the red pill.

>>138168433
>Nobody was taught about communism
Ya not surprising to hear that you never paid attention in school

>>138168434
Good, you just proved you are a demon.

The figure of "six million" (which refers only to Jewish victims, and is larger when counting the other ethnic, religious, and minority groups targeted for extinction) is often minimized by such claims to a figure of only 1 million deaths,[by whom?] or only 300,000 deaths.[by whom?] By contrast, the vast majority of scholars, institutions, and even Nazi officials[67] estimate between five and six million Jews perished during the Holocaust,[68] while some claim the number could possibly be even higher.[69]
Deniers claim that these documents are based on Soviet propaganda, primarily from Ilya Ehrenburg's Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee, and are therefore unreliable. Complicating the matter is that various instances have been reported where the death tolls of particular death camps were claimed to be overstated. These claims vary in verifiability and objectivity. A much-quoted instance of disputing the toll is the "Breitbard Document" (actually a paper by Aaron Breitbart),[73] which describes a commemorative plaque at Auschwitz to the victims that died there, which read, Four million people suffered and died here at the hands of the Nazi murderers between the years 1940 and 1945. In 1990, a new plaque replaced the old one. It now says, May this place where the Nazis assassinated 1,500,000 men, women and children, a majority of them Jews from diverse European countries, be forever for mankind a cry of despair and of warning. The lower numbers are due to the fact that the Soviets "purposely overstated the number of non-Jewish casualties at Auschwitz-Birkenau," according to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Holocaust deniers insist that the number of Jews killed therefore be lowered by at least 2.5 million. However, the plaque had never been used as an accurate historical source by mainstream historians.[74][75][76] As early as the 1950s, Raul Hillberg estimated 1.1 million Jewish deaths in Auschwitz.

>>138168623
Guess what fucktard, Putting someone in a camp against their will and then not feeding them and not providing them medical care against maladies that arise from housing people in high densities without adequate infrastructure is literally the same as throwing someone in a well.

You should pull your head out of your ass before you become a Jew and die from gas

>>138168908

i really dont care what Jew 'scholars' say.

>>138167089
Most modern day holocaust survivors give credit to the Soviets for liberating them. Most accounts even talk about how Russians brought them food and other amenities. I mean, Russians are not perfect, but they are humans too.

>>138168728
You have to tell them to start looking to themselves and building themselves up. Girding themselves, building wholesome individuals, families and communities. Then you bring those communities together under a common goal, common aim, and you build a people.

>>138149030
this should be /thread

>>138166367
>The important question at this time is does it even matter anymore?
Laws against """"holocaust denial"""" still exist. Really makes you think about matter question.

>>138168751
Interesting, because that Reich, the German nation and its Nazi flag that you have as your symbol, contrary to the Jewish people... are also gone. Of course, it's a war... things happen I guess.

>>138168821
And it's a good argument. I agree with you that there exists and incentive to discriminate against potentially belligerent populations. however, this does not absolve you from the duty of caring for these populations once they become interned, which is clearly something that the Nazis did not do.

>>138168825
Are you telling me that in your middle school and high school your teachers taught you that Communism was the worst thing in the world during the course of the 20th century and not the Shoah? You had a really based teacher.

>>138168967
>Guess what fucktard, Putting someone in a camp against their will and then not feeding them and not providing them medical care against maladies t

They were indeed fed and given medical treatment until the very end of the war when due to Allied bombing this became impossible.

The Allies should not have been bombing civilian targets. Blame them.

>>138168898
Good answer.

>>138148759

The holocaust didn't happen, but I wish it did then all these fucking jews would be dead and the world would be a better place

>>138168967
Soldiers get fed before prisoners.

>>138168974
The earth is flat, too

>>138168780

I personally believe the Reinhardt camps were deathcamps - Treblinka alone was only in operation from 42-43 and nearly 1 million people were killed there

they were able to kill approx. 15k people per day at that camp alone


ss treblinka guard saying exactly that @19:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vN3N1sTcAQ&t=985s

>>138168974
BRUH, THANK YOU

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"Proof" of the gas chambers.

>>138169115
You know who rules you when you know what you can't talk about.

>>138168974
Of course you don't. Likewise, I find you and your flag foolish. Your little project from the 1940s is done, and all you have now is... Jewish scholars. It must sting.

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>>138169115
(((Armeniens)))

>>138169299
>The earth is flat, too

Im sure you believe that if you believe those kikes

>>138169243
Troll harder.

>>138169132
We could always Remove Sushi.

>>138168908


this is saying literally nothing

>>138158254
Hollow earth

>>138169424
No stupid - he's saying that about you. That's equivalent of saying "I know you are, but what am I." In your case, you're a ninny.

>>138167606
Well, Nazis nowadays can't seem to decide which of these to believe:
1) It happened and it was great!
2) It never happened fukkin kikes faked it!

>>138169183
Ok so finally we have some sort of confession from you. Holy shit that took a lot. What you have here is a much better argument than "DE NAZIS DID NOTHING WRONG LELEL

So you agree that millions of Jews died in camps designed by Nazis.

Yes I do agree that Allied bombings of supply lines led to mass starvation of these jews. I'm happy you've finally stopped your bullshit denial of the outrageous loss of life perpetrated in the 2nd World War.

The circumstances that led to the starvation of these millions of people, however, could not have precipitated without the clear and obvious error of concentrating these people in the first place, and therefore the moral onus lies on the Nazi regime for the deaths of these millions of peoples.

>>138169374
Think about what sort of people willingly allows the legend that half of their population died in order to get what they wanted and extorted the rest of the world in doing so. That is some ultimate deviousness.

>>138169495
>this is saying literally nothing

Basically some Jew scholars wrote giant books and we are supposed to believe them despite no physical evidence of the Holocaust.

>>138169495
I guess I'm learning from you.

>>138169579
>No stupid - he's saying that about you. That's equivalent of saying "I know you are, but what am I." In your case, you're a ninny.

Sorry, but believing these ridiculous Holocaust books written by Jews is like believing in the flat earth.

There is no physical evidence for their absurd claims.

>>138169622
The question is, does it matter? Tell me the names of the people who built the pyramids, each individual participant. Does it matter? You'll answer your own question. Can you continue existing not knowing the true answer to that as well as not caring either way? If you can, just ignore the people that push it on you and the guilt associated with it.

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uh huh...

>>138169641
SO WHAT.

>>138169826
I don't feel any guilt for it one way or another. I'm curious about whether it happened or not.

https://youtu.be/Vzinzwr8hS8

>>138168692
>And compared to other historical events it's pretty insignificant and irrelevant.
What historical events? Are you saying the extermination of people for their religious beliefs is no big deal?

>>138169622
There's no contradiction.
Holocaust didn't happen because its literally impossible, but whole concept of rounding up all parasites and gassing/burning them is certainly alluring and we are going to implement it when get the power. Leftists as always are crafting their own nightmares with their own hands.

>>138169641
>So you agree that millions of Jews died in camps designed by Nazis.

far less than millions. less than 200,000 is my guess in the whole war.

>>138169673

That's correct. We aren't going to give Nazis, like you, the benefit of the doubt when a massive Jewish population died within the confines of your concentration camps. It doesn't work that way. This isn't a case requiring proof beyond a reasonable doubt - we're in the court of public opinion, and for many decades your version of the story is not taken with any seriousness by the modern world. You can shout in your apartment all you want, even on 4chan, and no one important will even consider it... heck, not even me.

>>138169261
"prisoners" aka CIVILIAN POPULATION that were identified as "subversive" due to their genetics.

I cant wew hard enough.

>>138168908
I usually pick the lowest figure as the correct number
Unless the source is a Wikipedia article about a battle my country won
Then I pick the highest casualty estimate of the enemy and the lowest for my country.

>>138170019
Oh it's only 200,000 people no big deal right?

>>138169883
What do you mean so what

>>138169985
See above. You had your chance, and your Reich failed. Your nation no longer exists. Try harder.

>>138170045
>That's correct. We aren't going to give Nazis, like you, the benefit of the doubt when a massive Jewish population died within the confines of your concentration camps.

Believe what you like, I dont care.

>>138169899
Take a page out of Trump's Playbook. Does it matter whether it happened or not? Not really. The only thing that matters is using what information you have available to craft a meta-narrative that suits the goals and interest of your people. The Chosen People know this, why don't you? It's a jerk-off intellectual exercise you're engaging in to revel in your own egotism. It's just like these Western European nations trying to (((decide))) whether or not letting migrants in is a good thing, while they just rape, murder and pillage their way to glory in your countries, stepping over your corpses along the way.

>>138169675


I've given up on you.

You only want to call people here with no real historical holocaust knowledge "ninnys" etc. but do not reply to anything I say - so Im assuming you dont have anything but namecalling

ive asked for:

-testimony from your sourced camp guards which mention anything about gas chambers at Auschwitz

-no comment on the 1947 Auschwitz trial where gas chambers were not mentioned?

>>138169641
Every single big country of that time had concentration camps.
We held japs and germans there.
Anglos invented the whole thing and used against niggers.
Poland was starving off hundreds of thousands of soviet prisoners.
Japan did it with chinks and koreans.

Its ridiculous to single out Hitler and paint him as some absolute evil while he just copied Anglos methods.

>>138170087
Subversive based on genetics? As I said, our subversive people not only survived as a nation, we built a country on the ashes of your Reich. Cry about it.

>>138170045
Keep saying that at the rate the Overton Window keeps shifting will be talking about this before the end of the year. You don't think Steve Bannon's going to go hard in the paint on this?

>>138170087
The Niihau Incident proved that the Japanese had a tendency to be subversive based on, according to their own actions, nothing more than their genetics and a shared cultural heritage.

>>138170144
Lying about the other 5,800,000 is a big deal as well you deceiving kike

>>138170157
My nation is doing well, and just elected nationalist president who's going to do all needed preliminary work to get you pests purged.

>>138170206
>-no comment on the 1947 Auschwitz trial where gas chambers were not mentioned?

Famous kike liar Eli Wiesel doesnt mention gas chambers either in his story of 'surviving' Auschwitz

>>138169675


Ive also debunked one of your "sources" with a video of his actual testimony which is different from the quote you posted. no comment on that?

>>138170168
Sure you don't care. But those Nazi tears of anger in your eyes power the Jewish machine right to the bank.

>>138170414
>Sure you don't care. But those Nazi tears of anger in your eyes power the Jewish machine right to the bank.

my interest is in knowing the truth for myself and the occasional discussion on here.

its interesting stuff.

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>>138170240
BOER WAR CAMP ARE A LIE !!!!!!

>>138170153
I mean nobody cares that the Jews were Shoah'd other than Jews. Think about this. Put yourself in the position of an African-American in the hood. How much do you think that that person cares that the Jews got killed in Gas Chambers in the 1940s? I'll give you a hint. 0%. The only reason Jews care that Whites care about the Holocaust is that Western European Whites are the only ones that can actually harm the Jews and their interests.

>>138148759
Op are you asking for proof that six million died or are you asking about the actual number of people that died in the holocaust. More clarity needed

>>138170171
If you don't care about what actually happened and literally only care about using it for politics, you're either a cultist or a Machiavellian sociopath. In either case, fuck off.

>>138170391


exactly - he added it in later though for good measure.

he is also missing his camp tattoo which he claimed he had for years but never showed to anyone nor was ever photographed with it

>>138148759
The burden of proof is on you.

>>138170607
I'm a tribalist that cares about proximal geography. Not some random shit that happened halfway across the planet, 70 years ago that, in the fog of war and the fallout after, nobody will ever really know the truth of.

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>>138148759
Fuck off JIDF we're full.

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Pic related should be the biggest red flag of all.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp

>Article 19.
>The Tribunal SHALL NOT BE BOUND BY TECHNICAL RULES OF EVIDENCE. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.

>Article 21.
>The Tribunal SHALL NOT REQUIRE PROOF OF FACTS of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations.

Two legal stipulations of a war crimes trial which literally allow the accusers to just make shit up if they so desire.

>>138170633
>he is also missing his camp tattoo which he claimed he had for years but never showed to anyone nor was ever photographed with it

were people really tattoed in Auschwitz or did the Jews just do it themselves to appear as victims and claim money?

seeoms highly unlikely it happened. its time consuming and carries serious risks of infection. has any Auschwitz tattooist ever turned up?

>>138170607
What do you think the Jewish people care about it for? They get free shit every year, A Country!, an unquestionable loyalty from here to eternity. You think the bankers and the merchants and the politicians care about their dead relatives? Everybody dies. They've got to get rich, they don't have any time for that sentimentality.

>>138170903
Oh boy! oh geez, oh man! This is just nuts!

>>138170206

I didn't make any personal allegations about gas chambers. Perhaps you're too Nazi to recognize that.

I don't respond to your requests, because frankly I don't see you. Your people don't exist.

>>138148759
my wife's grandparents were exterminated in Dachau, so yeah, it happened

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I like how Auschwitz prisoners had acces to a swimming pool, a theatre and even their own camp currency.

Seems like a bit of a hassle if your plan is to exterminate them

All it really takes is a little bit of deductive reasoning and not being so gullible to realise most of those in the camps died of starvation and disease. Noones fault really just more casualties of war.

>>138171159
>my wife's grandparents were exterminated in Dachau, so yeah, it happened

no they werent. Dachau had no gas chambers. It is not even claimed to have had any.

let's face the facts, the jews knew the goyim wanted to holocaust them after all the shit they were doing, that's why they read into every document a grand master plan to annihilate the jews. it's not that complicated.

>>138170903

Except that the relaxation of rules of evidence is common, especially in arbitration and international tribunals, as different countries have varying principles that guide their evidence rules. As if the rules of evidence, which ever you dare create, would have changed the result.

>>138171159
>Your wife's grandparents
>You married a kike then?

>>138170931


Yes they did do identification tattoos in Auschwitz and had specific series of numbers they used - Wiesel claimed to have a number which fell outside of the series issued. They were done so prisoners could not impersonate other prisoners or camp guards etc. which happened often prior to the tattoos being issued


they were usually done on the upper forearm and were very visible - which wiesel did not have

>>138170518

Unlikely. Go do your nightly reading on how 9/11 was an inside job.

>>138148759
Where is the evidence of homicidal gas chambers? The chimneys at Auschwitz are coming out of the ground and were made after the war. The structures there that are supposedly the homicidal gas chambers can't function as such. The doors aren't airtight, they just look like normal doors.

It's also not a shower room. Jewish stories always mention how they were led into a fake shower, but in the chamber at Auschwitz it's claimed that Germans threw Zyklon-B pellets through hatches in the roof.

Aside from the fact of there being zero evidence for the gas chambers, there's also the matter of the math. Someone else will post the numbers ITT, but basically for the Germans to have killed 6,000,000 people during the years of the war, they would have had to been killing some impossible amount of people every hour. The ovens would have been running all day, every day, nonstop.

Then there's also the matter that at Auschwitz prisoners had a number of amenities like a swimming pool, and music and theatre performances that were played for and by the prisoners. The reality of the situation at Auschwitz goes completely against the idea that thousands of people were being exterminated there every day.

It just simply does not make sense for the Germans to have done anything but kill Jews on the spot, if their goal was to exterminate them. They would not have fed them, they would not have housed them, they would not have de-loused their clothes, they would not have tattooed barcodes on them, they would not have allowed them to earn in-camp currency to spend on prostitutes.

I could go on cause we haven't even started talking about the electrified floors.

>>138171381
>Except that the relaxation of rules of evidence is common, especially in arbitration and international tribunals, as different countries have varying principles that guide their evidence rules.

so basically any bullshit stories told by Jews were accepted as truth.

thats why the Nuremberg proceedings were a kangaroo court and worthless in establishing what really took place.

>>138170903
You are emphasizing the wrong words on purpose to try and prove a stupid point.

If the "facts of common knowledge" part wasn't important the sentence would have stopped at facts.

They also didn't need proove that there was a war and Germany lost.

>>138170556
Harm the Jews and their interests? We made it out of the 1940s, after almost complete annihilation by your German people, with a nation and country, built out of the rubble of European nations that crumbled under the weight of the evil that was done to the Jews.

>>138171571
>Unlikely. Go do your nightly reading on how 9/11 was an inside job.

i dont believe in conspiracy theories. Like the Holocaust, I dont believe that one.

>>138170723
To the contrary - those Jews were imprisoned and died in a concentration camp, that burden is on you.

>>138171148

You did though in your "cited" (googled for shekels) material.

We do - and obviously have more knowledge of your precious shoah than you do
Kill yourself

>>138171381
Come on when you read good.

>>138171159
Who told you that? Were you there? Did you SEE this happen? I watched Ezra Levant's blackmail video today. These guys can lie like nobody's business.

>>138171655
Come back when you can read good.

>>138171571
BUILDING 7

>>138148759
Never happened.

You kikes should let up if you know whats good for yah.

>>138169959
it wasn't for their religious beliefs you idiot
it was because they needed a common target to use as a scapegoat/treasurechest/badloans/etc
nobody gave a shit about judaism
>oh no they make kosher pickles
no
first was the money the nazis would never have to pay reparations for WW1 anymore to europe
and by "cancelling their debts" with any jewish loan sharks, bankers, and seizing any jewels, etc., the boost to the economy would be huuuge
everyone with an old grudge got to bring them out for consideration as to targets
goebbels, goring all those propagandists, used christian religion to inflame the masses, scorning the "jews who killed jesus", while also purging all "problems" who were viewed as worthless, including any non-germans, jews, etc.
Judaism was not on the list of 'reasons' for nazis to kill, they had other reasons that would work just as well.

>>138171686
"facts of common knowledge" ie rumors that many people believe to be true.

>>138171840
You argue like a child

>>138148759
The holocaust didn't happen but I wish it did

>>138171708
What evil? You mean you took some gibs and a handout.

>>138171747

Of course not, except with your burden of proof, you'd never convict most minorities, which you despise as a Nazi... even after they confess. It's not that you believe in conspiracy theories, it's that you essentially want to be starved or shot to death in order to believe it.

>>138172187
That's right, I loved that anger. Nazi is a little upset he doesn't have his little taste of money. Try the whole holocaust thing again, it worked so well for Germany last time. <3

>>138171686
>You are emphasizing the wrong words on purpose to try and prove a stupid point.
>If the "facts of common knowledge" part wasn't important the sentence would have stopped at facts.
>They also didn't need proove that there was a war and Germany lost


Read how the trials worked.

Jew turns up, tells crazy story.

Prosecution accepts it unquestioned.

Defence offers no defence.

Next.

That's how it was, it was a farce.

>>138172115
Solid point. Cry more. Listen, if I were European like you, I'd also be upset. But I'm Jewish, so I'm not.

>>138172159
Perhaps you'll try it one day. Unfortunately, based on history, you might lose your country and nation as a result.

>>138149110
>How come every death camp was found only inside Russian territory?

Um, because that's where the Jews were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement

Also, it's much easier to establish camps (of any kind) in a region in the process of depopulation and resettlement than in, say, occupied Denmark..

>>138172070
>I will ignore your point and argue a specific but also meaningless technicality that only exists in my own mind and the mind of other nazis.
Ok just for you and your nazi autism I'll rephrase my post.

>And compared to other historical events it's pretty insignificant and irrelevant.
What historical events? Are you saying the extermination of people is no big deal?

>>138172297
Or in other words:

Many witnesses show up, give similar and credible testimony, supported by government documents, defense doesn't have much of an argument, and the tribunal returns guilty verdicts. Sounds normal.

Also, this isn't CSI-Miami... perhaps you've been watching too much Jewish programming.

>>138172294
We just shut have to shut off the Fountain of Gibs. We'll let the mudslimes deal with you.

>>138172297
>Read how the trials worked.
>Jew turns up, tells crazy story.
>Prosecution accepts it unquestioned.
>Defence offers no defence.
>Next.
>That's how it was, it was a farce.

Oh no those poor poor men and their war crimes I feel so bad that they didn't have some hero on their side to defend them.

>>138172297
If that's a farce, I guess you'd advocate the release of many imprisoned minorities, oh boy would that boil your Nazi blood.