Racial Fatigue

>>138124118
That's how it began for me. But I decided I was unsatisfied just defining myself in opposition to other things. So I began my journey of white racial consciousness from there.

I'd like to challenge the validity of that DNA test because they are clearly not related.

>>138124355
That's certainly an interesting point, but what would you suggest to increase this feeling? Go to church? Join an actual white power group?

>>138124118
>Is anyone here a white nationalist because they are sick and tired of having race be an ever-present force in their public life?

I am not a white nationalist but I can completely agree with this sentiment.

>>138124531
Oooh thanks for the bump wife.

>>138124118
That's fucking retarded m8

>>138124596
I don't know anon. I've effectively been an island since my awakening. I'd really like to have irl friends that feel the same as me, but I don't know how or where.

>>138125483
Not really an argument, but help me out leaf. Show me the error of my choice. Do you think its stupid to want to live in a certain scenario to get away from strife? I mean, isn't that THE legitimate reason? It was reason enough for just about every group of immigrants that came to America prior to globalization and the incentive to come here for $$$. Quakers, protestants, Lutherans, Chaldean christian--tons of people come here because they are tired of living around people that fuckign annoy them/threaten them and make life miserable.

You may feel like oneness with those around you is arbitary, or somehow easily achieved, but I think its pretty fundamental--and to be in a 'good state' kind of requires the interactions between people to be effortless. If you're putting in effort to hide who you are or to avoid offending people, you start to feel like you live in a very small world.

>>138125972
Thank you. That's what I felt when responding to the leaf above. I feel as if I'm on an island but I'm in the middle of a shit ton of people. I think I would feel like the world is bigger in a small town that is all white.

>>138126102
Where are you located?

>>138125981
If you don't like race just ignore it lol it's not hard lmao

>>138126177
I live in the same area I grew up in, which happens to be a large midwest city. I know that this is problem #1--so moving is my main priority.

The odd thing is I went to a very diverse high school and really had no issues. I know this is media driven and I also don't think that it is a coincidence that the real tedium with hiding my power level began once the H1b menace began literally replacing entire departments I worked in/with.

You did make me realize this now: Things weren't awful for me three years ago...it was really the influx of foreigners that felt entitled to talk about Trump and American politics like they are fucking PHDs in Americana.

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>>138126221
>haha like dude it's not that hard to ignore all the diversity shilling
>like dude close your eyes and walk away lmao

>>138126916
It's just an ad dude like why are you so mad XD

Do whatever you want, but yes, you are racist.

>>138126221
I do try anon. Like I said, its a matter of showing up to work and having this be an every day/all day topic. I spend most of my time with these people and they effectively see me as the out group--or at least that's how I interpret them talking about things they know I can't reply to in the office.

I'd rather not pick between keeping my job and keeping my ability to speak. If we could all agree that it is inappropriate to talk about race and politics at work (and it fucking used to be!) then I think I'd be OK.

As the other anon said, now I'm starting to see issues everywhere and it just keeps snowballing.

Well, either way, thanks for your contribution to this thread. I knew there would be those in favor of 'just dealing with it.'

OP is right

>>138127085
>I do try anon.
no you don't. You get pissed because of people who are merely around you. Don't delude yourself.

>they effectively see me as the out group--or at least that's how I interpret them talking about things they know I can't reply to in the office.

Holy shit you fucking pussy, get another job if you don't like it. Fucking cucks I swear

>>138126684
Diversity + proximity = conflict

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>>138127085
hehe imagine if we had freedom of speech guaranteed in the workplace for all hehe haha without consequence haha hehe hoho all our problems would be solved because you could actually hash things out and act like adults then hee hee ho ho haaa haaaa definitely dont pass new laws expanding the first amendment or anything that would make you a BAD GOY

>>138127358
>I'm not racist guys I just have a large collection of Strormfront memes!

retard

>>138127322
Now I'm curious as to what kind of daily life you lead. Are you around other people? Do you define yourself by the reflection of your actions on others, or by some internal definition?

Not looking to judge you either way, but I'm curious as to how you conceive of your life/value without putting yourself in the minds of those around you. Its entirely possible that I think too much about the 'me' that exists in the minds of others, but I really believe that is what creates human culture/civilization. Its that drive to want to make your family, friends and country proud.

When you exist as a mere cog in a corporate machine, I'm sure this exacerbates the feeling. You're right in that respect and I am already studying a different profession that is more loner.

You seem pretty angry yourself man. If it isn't other people that have you mad, what is?

>>138127358
Holy shit. Imagine being able to just fucking sling 'pajeet' and faggot jokes as much as they sling whitey and Orange Retard jokes! Its like my sanity might come back again.

I also believe that it wouldn't be unpleasant for long because then the rest of the folks at work would remember why we have fucking manners and mind them.

>>138128216
Sometimes people get on my nerves. I don't throw my arms up and cry for an ethnostate over it, you little bitch.

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>>138128474
stop imagining goyim and drink your tap water

>>138128474
makes perfect sense

also man you can find real world white nationalist groups, just try to steer clear of the uberlarpy faggots

white nationalism should be about community, we want whites together and living in harmony, so try to get a group of whites who agree with you to do that

easier said than done, I know, but aim for that as a goal, it's not as hard as it sounds.

G'Luck

>>138127077
>implying racist is a bad thing XDDDDDDD ;PPP emoji emoji :33333

fucking faggot kys

>>138124118
I'm not racist per-se, but I would say that I've become increasingly more race aware as I'm getting told that I suck because of my race, my forefathers, my history, etc each and every god damn day.

>>138129041
It is, moron.

>>138124118
I'm Jewish, I'm liberal, and I have fucking "racial fatigue". And I'm not the only one.

I swear, at this point I'm more fed up with SJWs than I am with actual neo-Nazis.

>>138129081
Nobody's telling you you suck because of your race you talentless faggot. Read a book that isn't Mein Krumpf for once.

>>138129135
how is having preconceived notions about a person based on their race a bad thing?

I see a group of black kids on the corner, I know I'll probably get jumped and robbed.

I see a group of white kids on the corner, I'm personally not worried unless they are personifying black culture.

I react the same towards pitbulls, sure not all of them will maul me, but if I see one while I'm on walking with my daughter I'll do my best to avoid it.

I'm not going to sit here and pretend that everyone is the same when they aren't. I'm not going to delude myself about the realities of this world simply to give the small amount of blacks that are ok a chance. I'm a racist because I realize that there are differences among us, I acknowledge them, learn from them, and adapt accordingly. Not doing so is fucking retarded.

>>138129272
Can you honestly tell me with a straight face that white people is not being targeted in every aspect imaginable right now?

I typically don't give credence to shit like this, but we're reaching autistically levels of disdain as of late.

>>138129618
Because it's irrational and illogical. Mayube if you weren't a heroine abusing cock addict redneck you could actually afford a place in a better part of the country, hm?

>>138129167
"Neo Nazis" exist because antiwhite shit being pushed by Jews all the time.

BTW I'm a White identitarian and I don't hate Jews. Antisemitism would disappear almost overnight if there weren't a fuckton of Jews pushing antiwhite agendas. It's fucking annoying. Please police your people. They are causing the antisemitism, unfortunately.

>>138129167
I was talking to my wife this morning about the one pic that's floating around with the hispanic chick holding the sign saying "Your grandchildren will be brown."

I was thinking that a few years ago, I wouldn't have thought much of it if someone casually pointed out that my descendents might be mixed race. It is the clear enjoyment; the expectation that this notion will cause angst that pisses me off about these alt-left folks. That's just vile. Taunt someone with having some weird predictive powers about their progeny is subversive on a level that really wasn't familiar in the harmless 90s/early 2000s.

>>138129747
Oh no poor white people how long before 6million of them are shipped off to the FEMA camps and fed estrogen until they're gay!!!

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>>138126221
>If you don't like being discriminated against due to your race just ignore it lol it's not hard lmao
Are you having fun pretending to be retarded?

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>>138124118
>Is anyone here a white nationalist because they are sick and tired of having race be an ever-present force in their public life? You can't have constant racial propaganda if you're all the same race, right?

This how it starts for a lot of people, I think. You either accept the propaganda and realize that two and two makes five (because it would be racist otherwise) or you come to hate it.

Of course, the idea only really needs a toehold, because the modern left has moved so far from objective reality that the truth is easy to swallow, once you find it.

>>138128957
Any state better at providing this substrate of community than others? I live in the midwest btw. I've been looking at moving to SD.

>>138130160
And there it is. You are the racist, never forget that. Have fun living with that knowledge, lib.

>>138130160
you jest, but (((they))) have plans
https://idw-online.de/de/news679448

>>138130512
It's easy not to see race when Brampton feels just like Karachi.

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>>138128474
>imagine a world where we can all sling banter at one another

sounds comfy

>>138130512
It's called not being a limp wristed faggot you fucking disgrace

>>138130663
Sorry did that hurt your feelings?

Literally what we've been saying. There's far less tension in a homogeneous society. There's more civic engagement, friendship, trust, etc.

>>138130544
Try to find irl white nationalist groups, but again try to avoid the overly larpy psychos who want to joke 24/7 about gassing jews and muh 4th reich. You can find good people everywhere, btw.

reminder that neo nazism is a cancer in white identity that needs to be eliminated

>>138130524
I like the direction of your logic. I think that the 90s for me were a state where I wasn't thinking of race. Its kind of an odd thought to think: If the racial propaganda had never started, would I care about race? Tree falls in the forest kind of thing...

I think sometimes that the truth changes with time. Civic nationalism might have been my mindset in the years before the last three-or-so, but I've gone white nationalism due to the emergence of some truth. Both states 'felt' like the truth, but I wonder if the state were in now is the objective truth or simply a mindfuck of time and groupthink.

>>138131013
So then why aren't you back at redd*t?

>>138131149
Huh?

>>138129999
>pushed by Jews

Don't confuse SJWs and their enablers with Jews.

>Please police your people.

They're not our people anymore. SJW Jews hate the Jewish community, hate Israel, and have rejected their brethren and heritage in exchange for asspats from SJWs who will always consider the Jews beneath them for being too "white".

>>138130009
>I wouldn't have thought much of it if someone casually pointed out that my descendents might be mixed race. It is the clear enjoyment; the expectation that this notion will cause angst that pisses me off about these alt-left folks.

I hear that. As long as my grandkids are Jewish, I don't give a fuck what color they actually are.
But that fucking smugness, that fucking way they're waving it around PRECISELY because it'll hurt people's feelings (while they pat themselves on the back for being so woke and enlightened and so obsessed with not hurting people's feelings that they invented the concept of "microagressions") really rustles my jimmies.

>>138130841
THIS

>>138131291
fuck you

>>138131310
>people got mad at me for assaulting a minority based on his race in public it must be the (((jews)))that did this

You people are insane

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>>138130847
Not really, since I know for a fact that I'm better off than you and most likely always will be. Studying lesbian waterpolo-theory can only get you so far, poorfag. You will stay envious and angry for the rest of your life. The chip on your shoulder will never disappear, because we will never disappear. In fact, your whole position in life is based on general twisted thinking and hurt feelings.

You know I'm right.

Now flip me some burgers.

>>138124118
I'm just sick of all the Mezzicans, and now Asians and Muzzies, ruining the city I grew up in.

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Read white identity by Jared Taylor
Then culture of critique

Egalitarianism is shit. If their is one positive of all the anti white racism it is the rebirth of white racial consciousness. Nourish it and spread it to your family and close friends.

Captcha:

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>>138131347
Oh, okay

>>138131485
wat?

>>138131605
That's another good point. The indians at work make a destructive mess of the bathroom (why does this meme have to be real?) The interesting thing to me is how this office building changed. My Dad worked in the same building (no I didn't get the job from daddy, I happened to end up there years later after working many other gigs) and took me there every year for 'bring your kid to work day.'

I remember how he had a floor to ceiling cubicle with plenty of light and a good view. There were maybe 20-25 people to a floor. I work on a different floor than he did, but the space is the same. We have 200 fucking pajeets crammed into this area. There is trash everywhere. The test devices are always being hidden/stolen. It is entirely different than when my Dad worked there.

The area around the building is starting to suffer too. There are hipster fag food trucks that have replaced the restaurants--partially because I think the buildings have all gone to shit.

I dont understand why people cant just "do you" as the nignogs put it.

I lived in nippon for two years and didn't feel any culture shock and ended up with plenty jp m8s through sport and work.

Clearly I'm hugely a racial minority in japan but had literally zero problems.

I don't understand why people derive such a huge part of their identity from race.

>>138131590
>I know for a fact that I'm better off than you and most likely always will be

I'm doubtful you know anything

How many times are you dumb fucks going to fall for the leaf's bait?

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>>138131121
>If the racial propaganda had never started, would I care about race?

Keep in mind that all white countries (Europe, Anglosphere colonies, etc) originally help white nationalism/supremacy as an implicit truth - something that went without needing to be said.

This untimely failed because the advocates of Multiculturalism knew how to say nice things and all the arguments against them had always been common sense, but hard to put into words. Then they gained control of the engines of culture via institutional capture and made "common sense" ethnomasochism and nigger worship.

> Civic nationalism might have been my mindset in the years before

The problem with Civic nationalism in the U.S. is that all civic nationalists are white. It's hard not to eventually notice this.

>>138132471
You act like that means anything you overreactionary cuck

>>138132456
I also worked overseas in the middle east. I felt like I was on an island there too, so personality and your own evolved genetics might play a part in individual experience.

That's cool that you didn't have a big shock and got along. You may be a new wave of people that are more autonomous. Not judging what that means, but I do feel a bit outdated--but all the same, not wrong. If I truly felt like my current state of mind was evil, I'd like to think I would quit. Unfortunately, I really can't get to my super ego and figure all that out.

In the middle east, I was happier to an extent in my work because, like the indians at my office, I was working with all whites. Ironically, my work environment there was very consistent in its demographic.

>>138132456
Exactly, this is why I support mass immigration to Europe and Australia. Just do you and don't worry about race or demographics, it's ok being a minority. Just do you.

>>138124596
>Church, where all the black people are...

>>138132471
I admit I'm an avid piece of shit on pol. When I make my own threads, I maintain discipline as much as possible, but a lot of people (myself included) come here to unload the hurt on themselves and each other. Its a fucked up hurtbox man. Asking why we fall for b8 is like asking why we masterb8.

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>>138124118
https://youtu.be/G8-6eAYHOBE

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>>138132456
>I dont understand why people cant just "do you" as the nignogs put it.

For the same reason a state cannot choose to ignore war.

Because you man not be interested in multiculturalism, but multiculturalism is certainly interested in you.

You fucking white devil.

>japan

Part of that is because the Japanese are actually civilized, functional humans. Another part is because Japan is so ethnically homogeneous that you are still clearly a guest, and therefore lack the means to begin forming a parallel society and demanding they accommodate to you.

This allows everyone to be more polite.

>>138132989
>That's cool that you didn't have a big shock and got along. You may be a new wave of people that are more autonomous.

Unlikely; many of the reasons that people prefer their own are hardwired, and the rest are completely rational (on one would choose to associate with pic related in a vaccum).

It probably not going to chance, considering that white racial consciousness is very clearly increasing.

>>138133154
Jesus Christ you need to go back you LARPER faggot.

>>138132504
That was one of the most succinct statements I've seen for this. I realize that I wasn't thinking deeply enough about this.

Fuck. It really is simple. If you look at all animals, the worst shocks they suffer are from events that don't have a response programmed in their DNA. When things get farther and farther from the bounds of personal and genetic experience, people freak out--just like animals.

You definitely made me feel like less of a bitch for being stressed about my current work situation. Thanks!

>>138133135
Fair. Especially here in America.

It was more of a fishing line out there to see where the thread might go in the early stages. I wasn't raised in a religious household, and that kind of is a bit of a bummer now that I'm searching for a starting point. Sometimes I think faith might help one find identity that transcends race, but it seems like its all baked together. Now that the white churches have diluted, the message is all over the place. I certainly feel myself striving towards Christian morality, the whole concept of God is hard to find though. I feel so distant from people that a creator father seems like some impossibility.

>>138125981
I guess you are experiencing depression. You were in denial at first but now get that the old civilization is going away, and you, by simply existing, are it's fading symbol.

It is unbelievable how fast America is changing, it feels like a completelly different country. And the response from the rest of the world is going to be quite curious.

I am personally shocked - you can feel this strange pressure in all american media. I guess this is the first sign of desperation - what everyone fears is that america WILL change, not the opposite, and now it is changing, and the liberals are, i guess, refusing to see reality other than a utopia.

But there has never been a country where a change in ethnicity did not lead to repercussions for the fallen ethnos.

>>138134261
Wasn't much of a civilization, m8

>>138134679
It was the civilization that invented the transistors in your computer that give you the ability to make such stupid statements to inhabitants of that civilization

>>138134947
Newsflash, that civilization isn't going anywhere.

>>138124118
Of course. I think we all feel the same. Enough is enough. We want freedom.

>>138129918
But you just did the same thing retard, making an irrational and illogical statement that you have no way of proving.

The only difference is that he used black teens and you used rednecks. Does that mean you are racist against rednecks, or careful around them?

>>138133603
>That was one of the most succinct statements I've seen for this. I realize that I wasn't thinking deeply enough about this.

Thanks. Keep in mind the thing about implicit white identity really applies to any liberal cause just as well.

Consider:

Tradition is, in effect, the accumulated results of the 6,000+ years of trial-and-error social experimentation running down the history of civilization. You could call it the accumulated 'societal technology' of mankind, as it is the collection of measures taken in based on the knowledge gained via experimentation.

If gender equality worked better than patriarchy, a tribe or society with sexually liberated females and no gender roles would have dominated those that did.

That wasn't what happened, though; the extremely patriarchal Romans destroyed many such 'enlightened' tribes.

If Homosexuality is fine, then it wouldn't be condemned by every serious religion and wisdom tradition on the planet.

If Multiculturalism was the best method of organizing societies, people wouldn't have put so much effort into living with people like them.

Expecting modern progressive society to outperform traditional society is absurd. One has a hundred centuries of development behind it, a couple of jews outcasts came up with the other a few years ago.

like asking Mesopotamian spearmen to defeat a modern Main Battle Tank. The technological gap is insurmountable.

>>138135080
Who is this we nigger if you're white then you're currently in the freest country in the world

>>138133489
I agree. It feels hardwired--like a sense that is so undeniable that it makes me look around at the few white people in my office like, 'c'mon, can we just talk for a minute without fear of Cindy Schmucklefuck telling HR??'

Unfortunately, the few whites at my office are fucking outspoken about how much they agree with the indians about Trump and white people. The cringe is off the charts.

I do keep the faith that whites will wake up. Whites that might not be otherwise upset about their grandkids being 'brown' might to finally begin feeling differently when they see it on signs being held by folks taking clear pleasure in this notion.

I want to live in a moral society. I want to live in a society where the concept of harming another person is equated with the concept of harming one's self. I want to feel like I should always think of my neighbor and look to the people in my community with less.

I volunteered for years when I was younger at shelters and public events with a very black community. They were very verbally abusive. Although I was younger and probably more aggressive overall, I remember being less angry about it--it was much easier to brush off because I felt there were primarchs of these bastards in my school that did treat me with respect.

These days, though, I do agree with your logic. The strain of daily differences has worn all the nice polish and bullshit down to the bone, and the bone is white.

>>138135139
Such as?

Redneck isn't a race, idiot.

>>138124118
>The mental abuse of boot camp wasn't as bad as the decade I've spent in tech.
This speaks volumes. Any kind of initial entry training is a testing period, and it has a definite end. You form bonds of common suffering as you count down the days. You're not happy, but you're part of a community and you see a way out.

This shit? There's no end in sight. It'll only get worse. And everyone around you is your ideological enemy or, at best, a potential informer. It's isolating and hopeless.

I hope you find your small town. You might have to look far and wide for it. My advice, start looking now.

>>138132470
You've proven that you don't. Lurk 8/pol/ and refrain from showing off your ignorance as you've done here; you'll learn a lot.

>>138135208
Do you believe that technology might change this? Not saying that I'm pro Transhuman, but would a conversion of people to something like full cyborgs still experience this?

Do you think it is possible to ride this wave of shit out to the point where all the chaos of liberalism and cancer fully inverts into some inescapable container of oneness--a robotic chassis--that finally forces people to differentiate, but also identify, through their patterns of thought; belief, values, etc.

Thank you very kindly for your contribution to this thread. I value your opinions and the clear arguments you're making.

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>>138135659
>8/pol/

>>138135208
except society doesn't exist in a vaccum, oops

>>138132456
>I don't understand why people derive such a huge part of their identity from race.

The problem is they always have and will i guess. We tend to think ourselves as different from our ancestors because we have technology but biologically we are the same. We are evolved mammals that lived in packs, not insects in a hive.

I guess if insects were aware, their version of societal collapse would be when due to technology they stop obeying the queen.

>>138135549
Excellent breakdown of the bootcamp vs. modern reality statement I made earlier. It kind of slipped out and I wasn't thinking about my old times in cadet boot camp. We did form a serious bond and had each others back.

This is a big breakthrough for me, thanks. I was hesitating to try and do a serious thread, but folks like you are making it a really worthwhile effort. I see now that one of the happiest periods of my life was my time with my fellow squadmates.

Sorry if I'm being a faggot and cheesy. I made this thread with the intention of being friendly and bringing myself back from the brink of a truly angry state of mind. I have to gain the discipline to fix my daily rage.

>>138134679
Yeah, it only invented the modern world, all of philosophy and worthy literature, 99% of scientific achievements, and even saved basically worthless savages without literature, modern medicine and what not.

Even the notion of human rights was invented by westerners. Go be a peddling witch doctor then if you want some "authenthic" culture.

>>138135367
You really are stupid.

You accused him of making an irrational judgement based on stereotypes, then claim irrational notions of what he is by stereotyping him. Basically proving it is natural to form stereotypes... you really are stupid if you cant even get it.

>>138136837
Based off of race and genetics, there's a difference you could appreciate if you hadn't blown half your brain out huffing moonshine

>>138135208
>Expecting modern progressive society to outperform traditional society is absurd. One has a hundred centuries of development behind it, a couple of jews outcasts came up with the other a few years ago.

Then how has it gotten such a strong foothold recently? How has this knowledge which should be common sense become such a taboo to even mention? Not disagreeing with what you said, but I'm just curious about the how's and the why's. Incoming 10 replies of "it's the jews".

>>138135069
>Newsflash, that civilization isn't going anywhere.

South Africa and Rhodesia show that you are sorely mistaken.

>>138134104
>Sometimes I think faith might help one find identity that transcends race, but it seems like its all baked together.

This is entirely true, and its an important observation.

To illustrate, there is a paramilitary/insurgent/rebel group in the Central African Republic called the Anti-Balaka who are so named because they go into battle with magic charm they belive will protect them from bullets (anti-bullets).

These are the Christians, battling Muslim groups. Remember that (traditional) Christianity holds that witchcraft is nonexistant, with that only being changed by some Protestant groups after the Reformation. Anti-Balaka is an extreme example, but it fits into the larger theme that African 'Christianity' is so intermixed with African fetishism as to be something else entirely. This is because religions are fundamentally impacted by the culture and nature of their followers.

The Sunni-Shia split provides another example. The two groups believe basically the same things but the overwhelming majority of terrorist attacks in the west are committed by Sunnis. Sunnis are largely Arabs or Arab mixtures, whereas the Shia are predominately Persian. Not coincidently, Shia states tend to be much more functional that Sunni ones; Iran is the only country in that part of the world that won't be forced into a massive deficit by the current low oil prices.

>I certainly feel myself striving towards Christian morality

Not surprising, as it's essentially classical Western/European morality.

>>138137004

>Based off of race and genetics

Wait, then you really were racist against rednecks because they are mostly white you know.

>cant be racist against whites

Then you are forming prejudices, which could be considered a form of racism you know.

What's next, asians are bad drivers you monster of stupidity?
Really stupid, yep.

>moonshine

The world is not just canada retard. Used correct stereotypes at least.

>>138135080
I think of that scene in Master and Commander where the Captain is talking to Hollum, the incompetent officer who let a crew member bang into him with no response/reproach.

Hollum is a reality denier, so he immediately swings hard and says 'I'll be much harder on them next time.' The captain reminds Hollum he must gain respect and not be a tyrant. Hollum can't comprehend this and his story ends unfortunately.

The freedom one gets from being a leader or follower in a society that has one goal no longer feels the humility of serving, as all are servants. I don't mind working for the greater good. I fucking hate working for liars and cheats who would fuck their own countrymen to save bucks in IT. Liberals have nothing on the fucking heartbreak I've seen when it comes to lost opportunities and people sliding into oblivion as the tech market squeezes Americans out.

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>>138137415
being a redneck has nothing to do with being genetically white. Pretend I called you a nigger instead if it makes you feel better.

>>138137656
Thread is dead.

Read some elementary logic and philosophy.

It is embarassing.

Bye now.

>>138137325
Not your original convo partner here, but wanted to add something more than 'the jews.'

I think the foothold is due to the Internet. If the dark ages saw Europeans living and dying in a square mile of dirt (which was the common experience) then the years before the internet might as well have been the same.

I think the Internet was a double edged 4D sword. It cuts you with both sides at once: On one side, you have the fact that geographic isolation no longer prevents you from seeing really graphic shit that straight up vaporizes your almonds. On the other edge, you have the fact that it makes international business easy to execute and so the integration of said weirdos into your local area increases.

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>>138137829
This board is a blight

>>138137829
Thread isn't really dead, there's been some decent discussion in here. It's no one's fault other than your own for choosing to interact with the turbo fag.

>>138136214
>I see now that one of the happiest periods of my life was my time with my fellow squadmates.
My happiest time as an adult was downrange. Although it was hot and boring and pointless most of the time, and I was usually pissed off at some idiot for doing something or not doing something, it was fundamentally different than the world we live in today. Our interpersonal differences were erased. It seemed we could be more honest with each other. And of course we had a purpose, and it was a good one (saving lives). It's been almost 10 years now, and I still sometimes dream that I am going back there, with the same people, and the dream fills me with joy. That's an undeniably fobbity flashback, but it's true.

How can that level of camaraderie and common purpose exist in the world today? Do we join civic organizations? Form intentional communities? Can we even express our intentions without being outlawed? I'm not even a white nationalist FFS, I'm a cucked alt West civic nationalist Yankee, and even that is considered Nazism now.

>>138137325
>Then how has it gotten such a strong foothold recently? How has this knowledge which should be common sense become such a taboo to even mention?

Because leftists (and yes, a huge number of them are Jews) have gained control of the manufactures of Mass Culture.

For most of history, communication and interaction took place peer-to-peer and on a small scale. This made the transmission of cultural ideas happen in the same way; bettwen people and especially parent-to-child.

Modern technology has changed that. Starting with the Radio and reaching its peak with television, a small group of people who controlled the movie productions and radio or TV stations to asymmetrically broadcast cultural information to the masses. This allows them to shape people's perception of reality.

They show you that blacks are really just like you and make movies presenting multiracialist as good people and villains as racist, they refuse to report black crime in the news and instead present black crime, show people well dressed blacks in suits and tell them that racism is bad. The present to them an image of a Culturally Enriched society and tell them that if they disagree with that perception of reality they are wrong, not the magic talking picture box. Then they capture the universities and suppress the science that contradicts their point, and then you eventually get to the point we're at today.

The internet messed that up, and let us see things like the insane violence and borderline sopathy of Blacks.

Things like the Daily Stormer and Hateron getting their server hosts and domains pulled shows how afraid the Establishment is of that.

>I think the Internet was a double edged 4D sword.

The real problem is that its symmetric, and people can find whatever information they want rather than what is presented to them by the TV man or Professor Goldbergstien.

People also have content choice, and can chose to view things other than Globalist propaganda.

>>138138332
I'm very grateful to those that contributed to this thread--really happy with how it turned out. I've definitely made some solid realizations that can be focused on, and I don't think the trolling spoiled the taste.

Mixed race guy here, I'm pretty tired of it too. The whole fucking thing has to do with economics, I hate the culture war shilling, identity politics isn't going to solve anything for /pol/ or the Libs.

>>138131121
I didn't think about race AT ALL until middle school, when my suburban town was inundated with tons of kids from a nearby major city. All at once white families and black families moved out of the city and swarmed my previously picturesque town.

The reason I then started to think about race was because all the new black kids acted like the stereotypical ghetto thug. All the black kids I had known growing up acted normal, but then they started to act ghetto too.

I still remember in high school this one black girl who was teased mercilessly by the other black kids because she didn't dress like a hoodrat and dedicated most of her time to schoolwork and studying. The thing they said most was that she was trying to be white.

I was nowhere near a white nationalist then, that came far later on, but that was when I first realized that we don't in fact all share the same "American" culture. That there really are significant differences among the races, on a macro scale, in America.

>>138138763
I think part of my softened tone and the theme of this thread tonight was that I'm fucking sad. I'm angry, but I'm also really fucking sad. I think that some memories of the past are now invalid. Some friends were fake.

There's probably a part of me that wishes the disparate weirdos would come the fuck back and say 'no matter what, American first and we'll defend our borders, interests and each other until the end.'

As others have said, though, I think it feels hardwired and the feels win. They always fucking win. Liberals are fucking feels but so are we. Emotions are some fucked up joke of an API that God must use to perfect his creations.

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>>138138763
>How can that level of camaraderie and common purpose exist in the world today? Do we join civic organizations? Form intentional communities? Can we even express our intentions without being outlawed? I'm not even a white nationalist FFS, I'm a cucked alt West civic nationalist Yankee, and even that is considered Nazism now.

I'm not sure their are easy answers. Certainly, our people need to get together and organize, both to have a chance of being effective, and because of how much better life is when you have a common cause with like-minded white men who you are actually present in your life.

It's like night and day.

I'm a white nationalist because I'm not retarded OP.

Well here's my last bump before this thread dies under the waves of shit that has become the norm of this board.

>>138140414
Thanks my friend. Robert thread looks like it started up. Hopefully that doesn't slide.

If shit hits the fan, I hope I have the honor of serving with well-written folks like yourself.

I agree with OP's thinking, it's the same for me to the extent I am into white consciousness.

BTW I am also Jewish. But right wing, not left wing.

>>138124118
>sick and tired of having race be an ever-present force in their public life?

All the time.

>>138124118
>You can't have constant racial propaganda if you're all the same race, right?
this is sadly accurate

>>138140633
I'm on a bit of a tangent here, but I'm interested to get your opinion on the future. What would advanced technology bring? Would cyborgs eliminate the need for racial identity/force people to represent themselves well mentally/socially etc?

Sorry if its a weird divergence from the original topic, but since we are technically in different lanes, I'm interested to see if others have a view of the future/technology as a supreme unification force or degeneration etc...

Thank you for your well-thought post.

>>138124118
>Is anyone here a white nationalist because they are sick and tired of having race be an ever-present force in their public life?


Pretty much. I'm a black guy, but I'm sick of all the race baiting bullshit and vilifying of whites. I'm so sick of hearing about white privilege and the term "person of color" actually makes me angry. It baffles me how these people who claim they're all for justice and equality don't see how it's wrong to treat people the way they do because of their race.

>>138140781
So why not Black Nationalism and White Nationalism make an agreed upon contract of allegiance to defeat globalism and the cancer of corruption in our industries? Reorganize the states to have white/black and integrated zones? It isn't the worst fucking idea and I'd rather people be alive and happy than dead and whatever else.

>>138141013
>What would advanced technology bring?

Considering who is steering it and past results, I'm pessimistic.

a lot of it has to so with communications technology, none of this was really an issue before smartphones made it simple for women and blacks to shitpost everywhere and cause problems for society.

>>138139385
You don't have much to worry about since you are already mixed

>>138141013
I am not thinking of such "unity" through the wonders of technology. We're a long way from anything near that invasive being desirable.

I just think people will form alliances of interest as always, and there will always be frictions. I can and do pass for white. I am also comfortable among Jews, except I am sometimes shocked by their politics.

Not to give too much credence to the communist MLK, but to most people the personality is more important than other things, if one just tries to get along.

>>138141233
Same here. As much as I love robotics, I'm terrified that some really messed up, vindictive shells will cram the whole of humanity into some void where we basically experience hell.

I have a nightmare that rapture is, as described: Those that are saved are done so in a heartbeat. They see what is coming and the kill themselves. Those that don't are taken by the grey goo of nanotechnology or cybernetics and live an eternal life of suffering in bodies that are devoid of life, meaning, identity, feeling, etc.

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>>138124118
pic related the other day on jewtube ad, the problem is very much out of control to the point where it's so obvious it boggles the mind to near insanity. You'd think we were living in fucking Nigeria with those demos, yet the opposite is true.

>>138141143
It's probably harder for you to speak out, at least in some settings.

But one thing black people could do, that they never do, is to take steps to avoid receiving racial benefits of protected class status. Say, on a school or job application, decline to state your race. I've never heard of that happening.

The system is inherently divisive now. If enough blacks worked to take the racial distinctions out -- that would mean undoing protected class status, or giving that status to white and Asian men -- then we could get along much more comfortably.

>>138141662
Really weird shit. It goes back to that idea that saying a mixed-race society exists in itself isn't the most inflammatory statement ever. However, all this gloating and 'see, see whiteboi, we gunna replace you' shit is obviously a completely different evil that forever shatters the harmony of understanding.

As I've said before in this thread, I still remember what it's like to not care too much what skin color your squad mate is, but people are animals and social animals are going to go as tribal and 'like-me' as possible in stressful situations.

I'm a white supremacist, ultimately, because I feel it is natural in this climate. I conclude, to some degree, in the same vector I began: I don't feel this overwhelming hatred of races; I resent the fact that I'm shoved into it from a career choice I made during a different era.

>>138142023
>It's probably harder for you to speak out, at least in some settings.

It's really not that bad. The only reason I don't speak out is because if I do I feel like I'll just be the mirror image of an SJW. Constantly getting triggered by words and starting altercations everywhere I go. It's easier just to shake my head and walk away.

>>138124118
White girl thinks if she can prove to the black man the baby his then he'll stay.
>sees a smiling black man holding a white baby on the cover of a paternity test and purchases the product.
Sorry anon, in this instance, it's just capitalism.

>>138128474
I feel like everybody got along better when chappelles show was on the air because he made it okay for us all to laugh at each other. I seriously blame him leaving then making a whiney fucking deal about the wrong people laughing for the wrong reasons for much of the racial hatred. That one bitch ass move took away our ability to laugh and make stupid Charlie Murphy jokes without some nigger yelling about appropriation because all agreed it was funny. I don't blame Dave for leaving. I wouldn't wear a dress for kikes so they can emasculate me either. But god dammit, he could've gotten away with naming the Jew and it probably would've worked at the time because huwites and niggers we're getting along well enough to join forces against eternal kikery. But noooo, he had to turn us against each other then flee to fucking Africa. Fuck Dave Chappelle.

>>138141143
>It baffles me how these people who claim they're all for justice and equality don't see how it's wrong to treat people the way they do because of their race.

Right? I grew up in the 90's and graduated HS in '03. All throughout elementary/middle school we were taught that all kids were born equals and that we should treat each other with respect. Basing any kind of assumption on skin color was a huge fucking no-no. I was good friends with several black kids and a few hispanics and there were very few differences between us those days aside from what we looked like. Same interests in tv/videogames/playground games/etc. Such a stark contrast to the reality of today where everyone is basing their judgments on someone based solely on the color of their skin and not the quality of the actual person. I still believe more or less than we're all born with the same amount of potential for good, but due to how we're raised there are alot of us that end up being steaming piles of shit.

>>138142615
If you can't participate in something, I think the natural reaction over time is to become more repulsed by it. You joke about cold pool water as you sink your nuts in it. You joke about pain after you fuck yourself up doing something stupid. You want to joke about people that are different than your norm to bridge that understanding to some new degree, but without the bant, you just can't.

>>138142615
>I feel like everybody got along better when chappelles show was on the air because he made it okay for us all to laugh at each other.


Seriously, race politics were so much better back then. Obama made everything worse somehow.

>>138142615
How did he turn us against each other? He had people in his ear talking about how he was setting back the black movement. People like Sharpton and Jackson had nothing to protest and it was because of him. Obama put a swift stop to all of that shit. He fueled racial tensions immediately upon taking office.

>>138142217
I was a 2nd class petty officer in the navy, and EVERY SINGLE BEST FRIEND I ever had was Black... I didn't get crazy about race until I rejoined the civilian world and saw (((their))) propaganda Every fucking day, the narratives of twitter, facebook, and youtube hypocritically censoring right views and protecting cancer like Islam. I have been red-pilled BY them, and while I love my old friends dearly, I simply can't ignore the Obvious replacement propaganda from youtube like their refugee bullshit, even though everything from Swedish rape to terrorism says refugees are a bad idea - the (((system))) keeps pushing it. I was never this conspiracy theory hard until I left the navy. It isn't just in my head, I fucking SEE it dude, I see shit like youtube's blacklist or google's censorship algorithms, I see ANTIFA's violence being supported by the MSM. I don't want to be as edgy as I am with race bullshit, but on the world stage WE are the minority, and I will fight for my people. Thankfully for me my dad's genes afforded me a big cock so when I get into it with negroes on discord they can't pull any low-brow race bullshit of their own. Feels better man.

>>138143259
He turned us against each other by leaving under circumstances where he was blaming racism. In his interview on inside the actors studio, he said that the executives kept pressuring him to wear a dress and he wouldn't do it because (((they))) always emasculate black men by making them crossdress. Eddie Murphy, Pryor, Cosby, will smith, all these guys had to put on the dress after proving themselves. Fucking chappelle blamed racism but by invoking that word, he turned blacks and whites viewers against each other when in reality the racism was from executives. His initial implication blew up all the racial progress he made. Chappelle, of all people a comedian, brought us together in the same fashion as Murphy, Pryor did, red foxx, Sammy Davis junior, etc. America needs a successful black comedian that can make us all laugh at each other. We do better with banter. But fucking Chappelle broke that chain forever by his reluctance to name the (((executives))) that were the main reason he wanted to leave.

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>>138124118
I literally saw no color until it was forced on me. The continuous blaming for all things wrong, domestic and abroad, was pushing me. It was other people that draw lines between us. I still don't hate other races, I just want to live in peace.

I know that as a white person I'm getting sick and fucking tired of having to smile and nod as I am forced to eat spoon after spoon of shit just because I happened to havr been born white. Tired of being told I have to feel guilty that my wife and I havr worked hard to earn our middle class home and out 6 figure annual income. I have to hear every day about how terrible white people are, how racist we are, how we this how we that and there is fucking nothing that we can say back because as soon as we say anything "shut up you fucking white racist Nazi".. I just don't understand how judging someone based on the color of their skin or gender is so wrong when you're white but ok for other races.

>>138143549
When I worked in the Middle East, my roommate was black--like, an ALL black. He was from the south and never did anything that made me wonder about his integrity. I have fond memories of feeling pretty alone on New Year's Day and he invited me to hang with all of this black friends. It was better than being alone.

It can still be hard to square memories like that with what my current state of mind dictates. I can only say that, again, despite the MSM, I don't think of my stance as hating others if I'm pursuing it positively. I have to focus on finding some kind of sameness with other white people and reduce at least this one bullshit difference. For me it is a big enough deal to seek out a more regular society.

>>138143549
It's not a conspiracy if they're not in collusion. I don't think (they) sit in a room somewhere deciding how to take over the world; rather, they're sitting on top of a self perpetuating machine that has corrupted them to their core. They don't need to plan the downfall of society, all they have to do is stay on course and continue to progress. Which is what they seek to accomplish because the current course keeps them in power.

>>138144333
Right on man. I want to fight only to defend myself and those that are like me. People can have their shit. I just wonder what the balance is between being defensive, aggressive-defensive and giving yourself 'lebensraum' or even integrated territories with racially segregated city-states.

As I have before, I'll wander on the fantastic/future side of things. I think even if people were cyborgs, they would still form groups and benefit from being around those that reinforce some fundamental qualities. If anything, I think some uniform set of avatars would lead to an increase in being a good communicator/thinker.

On the other hand, I also doubt this future and feel a tug towards the spiritual: What if the mind must exist in this body and this whole life is a test? Do you chose eternal life and go cyborg or choose death and gain something like reincarnation or the afterlife--both of which seem to offer some reprieve from suffering/a break up of suffering in different existences.

Endless life might be endless suffering without God or friend. These are very interesting times for a man who hasn't pondered these things terribly much.

>>138144023
I didn't know this story and the dress thing is pretty fucked up. Sounds right up (their) alley. But... whatever he said when he quit didn't have too much of an affect. Social media wasn't really around back then for people to become outraged.

>>138145157
Nobody knew the reason why he left when it happened. We didn't hear about it until years later when he started doing interviews, and by then social media was pretty much in full swing.

>>138144634
I can see that, but doesn't make stomaching it any easier though.... I almost WISH it was a hand curling Bond villain instead of a status quo gone mad. The people at the top realizing the Internet might fuck them in the end and trying to stamp it all out.

Nothing enrages me more than censorship, nothing except lazy A.I. based censorship from human cunts who cant even be bothered to do shit themselves. It's insulting.

>>138145080
I found that I don't need an all-white surrounding. "They look different but think the same" is fine with me.

After years I realized that those domestic hostilities between the races are fueled by people with agendas and they're successful in dividing us. Foreign countries played the ethnic card and manipulated the minorities here, domestic lefties encouraged them, domestic conservatives were either ignorant, timid, or were in business relations with said foreign powers to let it happen.
Then activist groups with various funding sources appeared and started to create differences where there were none before. It's so easy to divide people.

Re cyborgs, I can imagine it will fuel "racism" even more since people are free to branch out into more diverse forms. Differences are now potentially amplified into the absurd and make in/out-group behavior easier. Especially when they compete for the same resources.

>>138144634
To add to this; it is very easy to destroy something that works. In comparison it is very hard to build something that works, and for it to last is even harder. I'd say technology (radical upsets in authority and tradidions) as well as urbanisation were main factors leaving the western world culturally less resistant.

>>138147184
What if people are cyborgs, but not free to choose their forms? The chassis themselves might be far too powerful and fragmentation in chassis design a burden on control software. I could be still overthinking it--I don't imagine Google Cybernetics allowing the user to pick anything but the cute bot which is manlet height and pastel in color.

While I do believe this technology will come to pass, I don't believe it will be offered freely or without some very restrictive user agreements.

Just not sure we all fit into that box anon.

>>138147184
To add, I feel race fatigue with ethnicities that are currently trouble makers. With Asians (Chinese, Koreans) around me is no problem, they contribute, are open, relations are polite and nice. Same with Eastern Europeans. But with Turks, Arabs and certain kinds of Blacks there is trouble and I'm sick of it (and them). I know that in other places they are different and I wouldn't probably have issues with them.

>>138148471
That's an interesting point (enforced limited choice of freedom). I thought about it when Second Life started to become a hype. A bunch of weirdos took various forms, but the majority aimed to look like classical role models (strong men, feminine women).
I assume that "choice of form" will follow some known distribution (e.g. normal or power law). It just happens.
OTOH the drives to choose such forms is still driven by the genetic program: most people aim to fit in, a certain bunch deviates. This could change once cyborgization removes the genetic imperatives and replaces them with others. I don't know yet.

This is something you could be interested in:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphological_freedom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_liberty

>>138143549
Me too. I was in the Navy and everything. Everybody of every race got along and things were great. Then I got out and social justice had infested everything.

>>138129167
Wow, rare to find another Jew on pol. Totally concur by the way, tired of SJW and anti-white jews giving us all a bad rep

>>138150008
>Wow, rare to find another Jew on pol
Lurk more.

>>138150008
this >>138150384
Some of the biggest anti-semites on pol are Jews themselves

>>138124118
I'm tired of PC bullshit being forced down my throat.

It all started with obama. Before noone cared if a person was black or gay or a woman. Now all the shows I watch, places I work at, and schools my kids go too are filled to the brim with incompetent people whose only qualification is being a non straight white male.

It's gotten so bad that I avoid going to black doctors now because I dont know if they're really qualified or if they just got promoted for being black. My cousin got a staph infection because the nurses were all from India and didn't wash their hands. My son's new art teacher is a feminist who hangs a painting of a vagina in her classroom. My AC repair guy is an incompetent mexican who made my central air system die on itself. I'm so fucking sick of this shit. I avoid working with non whites now. My plumber is white and he gets shit done the first time, the one time my wife called roto-rooter some black guy showed up and took him 4 hours to clear a clog.

I'm done fuck this. People's lives and standard of living are in danger, if the PC crows doesn't realize that this is bad for society than we have to remove them.

>>138149460
Thanks for the links anon.

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>>138151227
>My son's new art teacher is a feminist who hangs a painting of a vagina in her classroom

Are you sure it's not just a Georgia O'Keefe painting?

>>138151227
Exactly my sentiment. When people start waving their ability to be different AND hostile to you at the same time, it isn't about equality, it is about some breakdown of cohesion.

>>138124118
>Is anyone here a white nationalist because they are sick and tired of having race be an ever-present force in their public life? You can't have constant racial propaganda if you're all the same race, right?

nice retard logic

since as we all know ethno-nations dont care about race

>>138124118
While you are correct in your point that race is made a factor in everything you do, every day of your life, and if you're a white male, our race is brought up as a negative. The fact of the matter is that race is important.

The white race is ours. We should love it. We should care for our own people first and foremost.

Other races know this, and they do so with their own race. I dont understand why so many whites have a problem getting this. Or why they think its a bad thing. It isn't.

>>138124118
exactly, I don't hate blacks... many have been friends since I was young. But the people who have cause my people the most harm (other than jews) are blacks, thus we should separate for both of our sakes

Don't get it twisted.

You are a white nationalist because of a lack of blowjobs.

No one wants to put their mouth on your penis, or your won't let them because of guilt, so this is you acting out.

Stop it. It's easily resolved.

>>138124118
>I've worked overseas and I would have NEVER considered slandering the host country in ANY form.
Why the fuck not? Every other country is shitty.

>>138127077
Everyone is Racist. Science is racist.

>>138130512
This. I'd love to see that faggot tell a group of niggers to ignore it when they're crying about racism.

>>138131347
Of course this over the top cucking is spewed by a fucking leaf. Who else would it be?

>>138131590
My sides. Lesbian water-polo theory. You, anon, are priceless.

>>138124118

I'm pretty egalitarian and I'd welcome white nationalism exactly for this reason. The only capacity in which I care about race is that I'm sick of hearing about it.

>>138152276
I meant publicly while I was in said foreign country. Believe me, I bitched plenty about it when I got home to the states.

The biggest problem I see is that blacks are getting a free pass to racism, and are allowed to keep their in-group preference for other blacks. There is a double standard where whites cannot do the same. Blacks seem to have this idea that they are entitled to racism, and that justice truly demands that whites put up with it. It creates a frustration gap, where one group is being suppressed by a minority, which is the whole thing I was taught growing up was the most evil thing ever. In 2017 it's perfectly fine to be racist and open about it...as long as you're not white...

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>>138124118
>6 months later