Alt-Right Make-Over: No Zionists Edition

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>>138098554
Moarpheus is an anti-white shill from 8ch /leftypol/

Daily reminder that Richard Spencer:

>Invented the alt-right
>WASP, not a drop of Jewish blood
>Rich as fuck (net worth 185M dollars)
>Made white nationalists look intelligent and cool
>The most popular white nationalist since Hitler (Duke's biggest video had 1M views while his have 3M+)
>Doesn't cause infighting among European groups
>Organises alt-right events and fights the battle IRL
>Destroyed (((alt-lite))) Jewish larpers
>Started NPI (National Policy Institute) to get in government

Watch his videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN8w7lUMc1o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n3dhOKntj4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlOv3BXSyJM

His youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSTy-H5lSiCcozas32sfJlQ

>>138098554
>optics
WHAT'S WITH THAT WORD? WHY ARE ALL THE SHILL SAYING "OPTICS"!?

We know you're not form here, shill.

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Thank you for promoting based Spencer

>>138098554
The last one didn't even have 30 responses, why do you have to make a new one?

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>>138098786
He's from leftypol (a fringe communist board on 8ch). You don't know about Moarpheus yet?

He's trying to destroy the alt-right 24 7.

Too bad our next rally will be EVEN BIGGER.

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>>138098761
lel altright is dead m8.

spencergate.wordpress.com

>>138098786
killing three people while screaming about jews and LARPING as Nazis didnt exactly make our ideology user friendly.

>>138098949
other thread are Zionists as i explained in the OP.

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>>138098949
Here's a bump for Moarpheus, the 8ch anti-white shill

This is what they think about whites

He sometimes shitposts with his Israeli flag

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>>138099072
>lel altright is dead m8.

>>138098554
the in-fighting continues

>>138098554
what's your discord id?

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>>138099135
i dont use a tripcode, just a name ;) try harder

>>138099180
pic related

>>138099335
at best its a disagreement regarding strategy. at worst altright is purposely making us look like trash. either way something new has to be produced. and it will be. either by us or by (((them)))

>>138099379
Moarpheus#1646

i honestly can't tell if these 'let's clean up national socialism' drives are a coordinated campaign, or if there really are people fucking stupid enough to think it on their own

victory is strength and extreme energy, not contortionist conciliatory games that might get CNN to give you a fair shake

>>138098761
>180 million

>>138098554

All the alt-right needs to do is wear white polo shirts, khaki pants, and a red MAGA hat.

This is all it takes to trigger.

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>>138099780
how much victory has the altright seen just among white voters in america? are they all heiling dicky spencer or are has spencer single-handedly lost the white vote in america? how well do you think we will spread NatSoc by flying the black sun while screaming "gas the kikes!" not asking to change values but only the way we present them..

>>138100054
is the goal to trigger normies or is the goal to get our ethnostate? we could do both if we're smart about it..

>>138098554
Good luck. I agree with those goals as long as by usury you mean debt entrapment.

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We need more chads. The more attractive side wins

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>>138100872
>I agree with those goals as long as by usury you mean debt entrapment.
yeah

>>138101095
agreed

>>138098554
Spencer is alright but got too cozy with Nazi frog shitposters and can't resist media attention.

He fucked up, he should have gone with tea-party all American aesthetics and kept the LARPers on a tight leash.

>>138100696
>is the goal to trigger normies or is the goal to get our ethnostate?

The goal is to attract normies on the edge, while showing them how violent and repressive the left is when white people advocate for their ethnic interests.

Guise... look how easy this could be:

>Stopping white genocide

When an American brings up white genocide to a skeptic, because white birth rates are on the rise, the skeptic generally returns mockery and white genocide in his mind is a conspiracy theory.

http://www.newobserveronline.com/2017/08/us-white-birth-rate-boost-majority-of.html

So what if we limited our discussion of white genocide to Europe and South Africa? What if we call "immigration replacement" not "replacement" but "genocide by migration?" Or Migration Genocide? Or even simply equating "replacement" with "genocide?" This would put pressure on Europeans to rise up against their destruction. And if we marched against white genocide in South Africa this would put pressure on the South Africa Government stop...with enough International attention, of course. Plus we could march and demand Trump allow white refugees from South Africa, effectively boosting the white population in America.

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>>138101864
>while showing them how violent and repressive the left is
ok good. you cant do this with torches and cars of peace tho. or you look violent. this is about a change in tactic, not goal

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It's too easy...

>Killing ANTIFA

ANTIFA is an International terrorist organization. Various Governments have them banned as such. How hard do you think it would be to get ANTIFA labelled as a terrorist group here in America? Don't you want to see these Communists behind bars and without even a group to rally behind?

All it would take is a massive demonstration. We only need to get up and go outside, guise..
GUISE... see how fucking easy it would be? Cmon..

>>138101864
>while showing them how violent and repressive the left is
Even at the cost of looking weak? How much value is there in that? The left is already making normies walk on eggshells all day anyway.

>>138102822
>How hard do you think it would be to get ANTIFA labelled as a terrorist group here in America?
Maybe if they started going nuts and killing normies. Even then, institution are so compromised with commies that there will always be someone shilling for them. You won't get commies to disavow /theirguys/.

>>138103641
all we need is trump on our side to agree.

>>138098554
reminder, this civnat cuck is a mulatto shitskin who's literally here to shill a derail of the movement.

Post your hand again your fucking filthy fat fucking tub of brown lard.

>>138104749
what is >>138100696 ??

i outright said the goal is a white ethnostate, but im a civnac? piss off shill.

>>138104957
kill yourself namefag subversive shill nigger.

>>138102326
>o-oh no. they have TORCHES and CARS.
I guess all normies became antifa now or something?

>>138105145
nice argument

>>138105147
>I guess all normies became antifa now or something?

The normies are becoming pro-Israel.
Isn't it Jews, like Laura Loomer, who are leading the charge against the AltRight due to their rally? Spencer fucked his own movement up and now Jews are jumping on it like lions on a gazelle. Either the Zionists will win the minds of the normies and turn everyone into pro-Israel stooges... or we will win the normies and turn them all anti-Zionists, but Spencer and his movement is literally dead. There is no recovery now because kikes have their claws dug into Spencer's back so deep he can't escape.

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>>138101095
Damn right. Everyone should be fit too.

fter recent events, I think we can all agree that the use of Nazi symbolism just won't work. Even 2-3 guys with swastikas will ruin it for an entire rally. But too many forget- what about our own history? The left is always guilt shaming us for America's racist past, reminding young students that the framers of the Constitution were white racists, and that not a single President until JFK believed that all races were the same and equal(ironically he praised Hitler in his diaries). Why not embrace this image, and adopt it in our ideology? They've set it all up for us. We have a great opportunity to use this for white nationalism, but instead, some still think it very necessary to keep a National Socialist approach, despite the fact that this isn't even Germany.

Typical leftist: It's un-American.White nationalism is not apart of our history and heritage.

Chad 14/76: Actually, it is.

And remember- Core conservatives worship the framers. It's gonna be tough trying to distance themselves from them.

>>138105482
>quoting molymeme
GUYS DAY WILL LIEK ME IF I QUOTE DA MEMES RIGHT? THEN I CAN SUBVERT DEM :DDDDD

>>138105482
How exactly is Richard Spencer/ Alt-right zionist shills? I haven't been paying attention recently

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>>138104291
Trump can't do shit, he's attacked from all directions. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried killing him in the next few months.

> Rep. Steve Cohen of Tennessee, a ranking member of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution and Civil Justice, sent out a press release Thursday announcing his intention to begin the impeachment process against the president for his widely condemned reaction.

>>138105675
this dude is a shill trying to derail shit. We've been flooded with this shills trying to capitalize on Cville.

>>138105588
You're american nationalists, the american constitution is one of the greatest political works in human history. Muh freedom wont save white americans but the goal should be ultimately to return to the original concept of america. I.e freedom and equality among white landowning men (as was initially intended). Fascism can be a useful tool in removing subversives for a period of time,though it isnt necessarily an end in itself
Also nice 88

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>>138105588 (heiled)
pretty much this. we can maintain our natsoc principles and goals without coming across like Dicky Spencer.

>>138105675
pic related. spencer's altright is zionist kikery.

>>138105815
>he's attacked from all directions
trump isnt going anywhere nigger. thats leftypol demoralizing. dont forget the US President represents the majority. If we demand loud enough Trump will act. he wants to get rid of antifa anyway. he just needs the People behind him.

>>138105875
I thought as much to be honest, I've never had anything against Spencer. And yh shills have been swarming this board of late. Atleast there are some people who arent utter fags left here

>>138106275
Spencer isn't the one with the bad branding. Except for the hailing. He should speak up more about our image though. All it takes is a few crazies or controlledd OP to make everyone look bad.

>>138106275
>pic related. spencer's altright is zionist kikery
He's being fair, trying to do the whole everyone should have ethnonationalism thing. Every post calling him a zionist is just another example of him doing this?

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>>138106751
spencer could have went that route but he didnt. he defended and shifted the blame to others. no matter how you cut it, his version of the altright is finished.

>>138106829
pic related. Zionism is not the same as White Nationalism or any other form of Nationalism because Zionism is expansionism. If you believe the Jews have the right to expand their borders further into Arab land, you're not a Nationalist but a Jewish Supremacist. It doesnt matter who you prefer: Jews or Arabs. Right is right. And besides.. why should Americans give a damn about Israel? It's AMERICA first.

>(((alt-right)))
>falling for jewish plots to make us look bad

>>138098554
This should be a new daily thread. Americans don't need the Swaz bumpersticker.

The next rally should have a swaz circled with a line through it and a hammer and circle circled with a line through it. Make American Nationalism Stars and Stripes. Normies can get that. Not to long ago, the Communists Left became just, the Left. Soon, I hope, the (Identitarian/ White Far Right, Ethnonationaist Right) [alt-right] will just be the regular Right. We don't serve anything borrowing Nazi imagery in our propaganda. If there are merits to Facism, they are not serving the freedom loving Americans on the front end of any movement.

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>>138107462
they did their work well

>>138107535
i wont blaspheme the holy swastika but i get what youre saying and pretty much agree

>>138107119
All peoples are inherently expansionist. What do you think the United States is? White europeans expanding for living space and resources, nothing wrong with this at all. Jews doing this is fine so long as it is off their own backs instead of how they currently leach off of the Americans to expand and continue zionism just as it was fine that white europeans like the British for example took over the world and spread our people across the globe through their own strength, intelligence and power of will

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>>138107840
we created Israel for the Jews with the promise they'd restore peace in the middle east. did they do that or did they create ISIS for the world? i have zero support for Israel nor should any non-Jewish person support Israel, at least until they begin acting like humans and not Talmudists. America is no longer expanding, nor is Europe. Why does Israel have to expand despite having so little Jews actually living in Israel? Even if all the Jews went to Israel they wouldnt need to expand as they have done. They're parasitic Talmudists, nothing more.

And this is one way in which we may name the Jew and criticize them without appearing "anti-Semitic." We begin to separate the Jewish people into opposing groups. Talmudists VS. Torahists, VS, atheists, VS etc etc.

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>>138107535
> Soon, I hope, the (Identitarian/ White Far Right, Ethnonationaist Right) [alt-right] will just be the regular Right.

exactly this

>>138107566
This might sound crazy to some people but it might be better if guys in the spotlight liek that smiled more, or appeared less threatening. Like how Spencer usually looks friendly, and David duke always has a smile on his face. They look happy, and psychologically i think that makes people want to trust in you more than say, angry men whom you would not want to be around. Make normies WANT TO BE YOU.

>>138107119
>>138107840
Also on the pic other than the homo shit i understand everything he's saying there with regards to israel. It boils down to "if jews stopped doing the open borders for white people but not israel goyim that would be good for our movement" nothing wrong with this again

>>138108429
>They look happy, and psychologically i think that makes people want to trust in you more than say
>Make normies WANT TO BE YOU.

good ideas. Spencer judges his worth by his bank account and twitter following. its purely egotistical with him. maybe we should place more value on integrity and character? this will resonate with normies and not the 1%.

>>138108603
>"if jews stopped doing the open borders for white people but not israel goyim that would be good for our movement" nothing wrong with this again

if you can admit Jews are behind open borders and open borders results in white genocide, why not actually expose the crux of the issue: white genocide? Dicky doesnt tho. He wont even say "white genocide." He uses the situation as an excuse to push for Zionism, nothing more. But imagine if he had say:

>Israel is behind the liberal Jew's push for open borders which is a policy of cultural and ethnic genocide for europeans

this would change the entire conversation, now wouldnt it? instead of talking about how great israel is we would know how bad it is. Spencer's strategy keeps people stupid, mine wakes them up.

>>138108203
>"lets create peace in the middle east"
>puts jews in muzzieland
Personally i don't think that even europeans were this stupid at the time, probably more sinister stuff going on behind the scenes with that.
Also talking about israel in anything but shining terms will get you called an antisemite though dividing to conquer their community could be a good tactic, i don't know very much about it but there is supposedly a malicious divide between their orthodox and secular divisions.
One more thing, how is spencer a zionist and/ or bad for us

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>>138108965
it might be egotistical with him, but when I see him in interviews, he's very convincing and charming. If he gets self appreciation form his money and twitter following, so be it.

People seriously underestimate the power that a charming and passionate figure can weld. And yes, this means playing to the women crowd. Spencer makes their panties drop, so to speak. And frankly, i wouldn;t mind hanging out with him. But guys like chris cantwell? Not likely. Guys like that just scare people and drive them away.

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>>138109486
>how is spencer a zionist
Richard Spencer says Jews and Israelis should respect him because he is essentially a ‘white zionist’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Mz-pM8Vuc

>and bad for us

Israel is not some Biblical paradise where Jews just want to live in peace. Israeli Jews are behind white genocide and Islamic terrorism. Israel has becme dominated by Talmudists who adhere to Talmud moreso than Torah itself. The idea of Jews having some land they can live peaceably in without persecution is fine, but that isnt what they've used their land for. They created ISIS for fucks sake. Israel must be changed and made more tolerant of others. This isnt anti-Semitic it's factual and I would publicly debate any Jew on these matters. We can frame this as "common sense" and relate it to America. Would America EVER call for the genocide of another people? I hope not! So why can't we encourage reformation in Israel?

>pic related

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>>138110016
>Spencer makes their panties drop, so to speak. And frankly, i wouldn;t mind hanging out with him

take it easy, Richard

>>138108965
Though i don't regularly listen to his material the only mention i have seen him make to israel is in that "spencer is a zionist" meme. From what i've seen his stuff is just pro-white though i don't remember him ever saying "white genocide" though many around him very often do i.e TRS and Anglin.
Also you're tactic of "waking people up" will probably just turn them away in swathes, its a very small amount of people who would even consider these things (though they should be talked about here though as they are important and on the off chance they could wake one of those rare specimens up to the reality of the situation)

>>138110184
Kek

>>138110399
Richard Spencer says Jews and Israelis should respect him because he is essentially a ‘white zionist’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Mz-pM8Vuc

>>138110399
>Also you're tactic of "waking people up" will probably just turn them away in swathes
lets find out? what is your argument against the approach found here >>138102190 and >>138102822

>>138107119
>>138106275
the thing dickheads like spencer and TRS don't seem to realize is that jewish nationalism in Israel is actively causing all the problems in the west by destabilizing the middle east and filling europe and north america with displaced muslims.

>>138110770
THIS! So what's the solution? Make American normie aware of the Israel problem, convince American Jews to march for Jewish Reform, and let them sort out their own issues while we make America great as fuck again

>>138110784
meet me oussie how bow dah?

>>138110047
I understand that Israel isnt anywhere near what it should have been, it is simply a hive from anti-white activities.
The answer legally is to stop sending them foreign aid, ban dual citizenships and (obviously) restrict rights of foreigners in countries that aren't their homelands.
In terms of Spencer, constantly blabbing about jews is not a good idea tactically speaking and i dint believe that he has any malevolence towards white europeans this just looks like realpolitik to me

>>138110016
This
He is a decent figurehead, just dont take his words on homosexuality too seriously though man you sound a bit like a fag

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>>138098554

Reminder that Moarpheus is an insane retard who thinks IQ is environmental, he likes niggers and thinks everyone in the alt-right belongs to a satanic Dugin cult.

Rumor is he is also a spic which is why he focuses on being anti-Jew way more than being pro-white.

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>>138111411

More Moarpheus insanity

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>>138111553

>>138098554
>Dicky Spencer and the Alt-Right have effectively re-enforced the myth of "le ebil nazees," as per their agenda.
Stop believing concern shills

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>>138111177
>The answer legally is to stop sending them foreign aid, ban dual citizenships and (obviously) restrict rights of foreigners in countries that aren't their homelands.
Agreed. Israel and the Jews aren't some terrible beast we can't defeat. They're weak and rely on deception for strength.
>constantly blabbing about jews is not a good idea tactically
true, but we still must name the Jew. But there is a way to do this wouldn't revealing our power level.
>i dint believe that he has any malevolence towards white europeans this just looks like realpolitik to me
He's a Duginist. Spencer hates America. He wants "chaos." Anyway. Spencer is old news.

>>138111411
so debate me then, finnshill? why dont you destroy my claims right here in my own thread and really embarrass me? you wont because you cant. im too alpha for you ;)

>>138111628
the entire white voting base has abandoned the altright because trump abandoned it. without the redhats spencer has nothing. so...altright is dead.

>>138110607
Dont disagree at all with either argument, the quarrel i had was with exposing the jewish element behind this, that pill comes later.
White zionism is just colonialism by your definition right? This was the best thing to ever happen to white people globally. Not saying i'd call myself a white zionist but in speaking to jews about white nationalism its being put in terms they would understand

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>>138112098
i understand where you're coming from, but consider that Zionism would strengthen and empower Israel. At the moment, Israel is behind all of our problems... from ISIS to white genocide. Until Israel changes this, why should we promote or even acknowledge Zionism? Rather than saying

>im a zionist!
or
>m not a zionist!

what if we responded simply with:

>Israel needs to be reformed before I'd be willing to support Israeli agendas

>>138111770
>"altright is dead"
What do you suggest we call ourselves instead, after all its nothing but a label (and a catchy one thus far)

>true but we must still name the jew
Thought i said that?

>>138111411
He is an absolute subhuman

Don't even bump his threads

Reminder you're talking to a communist who pretends he's one of us to try and smear Spencer in his posts

This guy is the worst shill on pol

Use it as validation Richard Spencer is actually /our guy/. These communist shills never stop trying to kill him off.

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>>138098896
>based Spencer
>hail trump, hail our people xd

>>138099044
>trying to destroy the alt-right 24 7
Bud the only people effectively damaging the alt right are its own members. If you idiots would stop advocating the purity spiral swastika and the autistic sun as the movement's symbols it would be enormous. Fly the American flag and shill it as a symbol of White Nationalism, the left is already desperate to call the founders and the flag symbols of white supremacy, the goal should be giving them reason to call it that. There are zero upsides to flying a fringe flag when the national one is already on our side. If the goal is to take over the country, why are we calling ourselves the 'alternative'? There is no alternative.

>>138113012
Notice how fast his changed the topic from "rally optics" to "Fuck Richard Spencer"

>>138113027
You are an unironic communist and the worst shill on this board, everyone reading your posts would be better off doing the opposite of what you say

It's hilarious you think you're a subversive genius when you act like you're "concerned about the community". You're just drawing more people to Spencer with your relentless shilling.

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>>138105588
Checked. Digits don't lie and anon is correct.

>>138112801
>What do you suggest we call ourselves instead
Alternative Right is old -- Spencer just co-opted the framework. And like NatSoc, Spencer has blemished the image of the Alt-Right. If we adopt this same title we will get associated with Spencer even if we outright deny him. What if we followed something I'm calling Chan Nationalism? Our movement would be decentralized, without a single leader, but still have direction and leadership...much like the old Anonymous group was formatted. We'd be united by ideals, not cult of personality (whereas altright is united by cults of personality and not ideals), and with a central group to ensure the movement's integrity. Its important that we attack the cult of personality angle or our movement will get co-opted using this very thing.
>Thought i said that?
sorry misread you

>>138113161
>implying spencer isnt why there is an optic problem
why cant we do both create a new movement and mock the leader of the old failed one?

Also if I didn't bump this your thread would die off just like your previous fail thread

Here's another treat doggie

>>138112496
Fair but he labels himself as a white nationalist
To be fair criticism of Israel is more than necessary, kissing these people's feet is not what we want to be doing.
Also there is some shady heeb shit behind the scenes in creating the altright but wouldnt revoke support of spencer

>>138113403
You're a fucking subhuman

If you're non white you won't decide on our movement.

Also the name "alt right" wasn't planted. It is exactly what it implies - ALTERNATIVE right. We were sick of cuckservatives and anti-white movements so we said fuck it and created a new right. This is not a hipster name, it's a genuine hate movement.

If you're not white you don't belong. Don't try to make yourself relevant by repeating that American flag bullshit.

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>>138113027
>>138099072
Burgers cuckposting. What's new?

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Bump for white nationalism

>>138113605
>Fair but he labels himself as a white nationalist
when normal people hear "white nationalist" they think white supremacist, KKK, nazi, etc.
One argument you could use is "do you have a problem with me being white or with me being a nationalist?" but even this is a bad strategy. Whites will not have an ethnostate until everyone else also desires their own ethnostate. Otherwise, you kick millions of people out of America/Europe (whose family have been here for a hundred years or more) and into 3rd world desert countries like Africa or the ME. Which would make the entire non-white world hate white people. And when this happens, dont you think Israel might take advantage and convince other nations to attack us? Its possible, at least, right? If its even possible then its a bad strategy. The solution is making America great first and encouraging reformation next in Europe and Israel. The rest of the world will follow, then we can promote love for homeland.

>hey blacks dont you want to connect with your africa heritage by living in africa now that its not a shit hole???

The idea here is that the principle of white nationalism is worth fighting for and if we have to give up the terminology of "white nationalism" to do that.. who the hell cares?

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>>138098554
Castle on a cloud


https://youtu.be/E4vUxVwb_G8

>>138113403
Having ever been under the altright banner or saying anything similar to their rhetoric will get you lumped in with them regardless of whether or not you rename yourself or not.
Also fragmenting into smaller groups with different names is a huge issue preventing anything from getting done. Altright just meant prowhite and (almost) all subordinate groups agreed to identify with it having a unifying effect and making us more powerful.
>chan nationalism
Have fun getting called an autist bro but if you started a new movement what specifically would it involve?

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>>138114417
catchy

>>138098554
>>Promoting America First nationalism
It's about WHITE nationalism you fed shill faggot. The only Americans are white Americans.

>>138114215
>everyone needs to want their own ethnostate
They all have them except white people

>they could unite against us
Let them they'd be so impotent it wouldnt matter

I agree though that the terms we use publically dont matter too much but getting our message across does, charlottesville has shown how unpopular we are

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>>138098554
We need to move away from "white identity", and back towards "European / Western culture".

Non-whites can't survive in a white society without gibs.

The first step to this would be to eliminate any welfare that encourages sub-human breeding.

We have Richard "FREE SHIT" Spencer need to be thrown into the Bernie Sanders pile of Marxist Communist trying to get gibs.

When we talk about the "American Birth Rate" and what is good for "America", we all know what we are saying is "What is good for White Culture and the White Birth Rate".

Also note, niggers like ((( Spencer ))) and any other person wearing our skin and demanding gibs, or acting like a massive retard is not white, and should not be viewed as such.

>>138114593
>saying anything similar to their rhetoric will get you lumped in with them regardless
so lets say it differently? an example:

AltRight fights ANTIFA by literally brawling with them in the streets. And look at how much they accomplished: NOTHING. So, what if we tried to get rid of ANTIFA in a different way? What if we protested and demanded Trump label them a terrorist group and simply outlaw them? That would stop ANTIFA, wouldnt it? And which do you think middle aged voting housewives will accept: fighting in the streets or simply making ANTIFA illegal? In regards to smaller groups...without Spencer and Enoch approval, there are no Alt-Right marches, are there? They're all controlled now. Why? People should be united in cause and free to express said cause in protest without having to corralled by some political cult leader.
>chan nationalism
>Have fun getting called an autist bro but if you started a new movement what specifically would it involve?
You have no idea what the movement is about but im the autist? theyre going to call us Nazis anyway... who cares what they call us? I didnt say the movement would be called Chan Nationalism but that the foundation of how the movement works will be related to how Anonymous once worked... this system in government can be called "Chan Nationalism" because it originated on the chans. why not

>>138098554
If you want to name the jew without appearing anti Semitic then call them jewish supremacists

if you are against white supremacy then why wouldn't you be against jewish supremacy. Unless you think jewish supremacist = jew, and in that case does white = white supremacy?

Name specific people like tim wise and richard cohen

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>>138113372
I'm not moarpheus you fucking paranoid schizo. The only shill here is the one that thinks the sieg heil is going to help anyone. Meaning you, faggot. If you actually cared about the white race you would be willing to use whatever aesthetic is necessary to insure its success. Were Hitler alive today he would completely rebrand the party and run on a platform of modern issues.

Still waiting for anyone to criticize the use of the American flag for white nationalism with an argument other than 'they're going to call us nazis anyway', which is a toddlers justification for endorsing carrying the swastika.

>>138115094
>It's about WHITE nationalism you fed shill faggot. The only Americans are white Americans.
great. now how do you except to make a 40 year old housewife who thinks Hitler gassed 6 billion people to agree with you? why must you call it "White nationalism" and not simply "American nationalism" if theyre the same thing? start playing chess!

>>138115310
>They all have them except white people
yes! and isnt it also true that everyone EXCEPT white people wants to live in white lands? the goal is to encourage blacks and others to want their own homeland, just like whites and jews. then you dont have to force them out... you can encourage them to leave and not make the entire world your enemy.

>>138115425
very well said. also BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP.
if we fixed our American system using nothing more than the laws already at our disposal, America would be a National Socialists country. this has to be our first thought.

>>138115724
>If you want to name the jew without appearing anti Semitic then call them jewish supremacists
Exactly this. Majority of Ashkenazim Jews in America and Europe are atheist. They only defend Israel because they believe it to be under attack. But if we separate between Torah following and Talmud followjng Jews, and paint the Talmudists as the cancer they are, then we could gain the support of not only Torah purist Jews, and not only atheistic Jews, but also of evangelical Christians.

>>138115642
>you have no idea what the movement is about yet im the autist?
Thats why i asked in the post, i was just bantzing you bra

>why not call it chan nationalism?
Think about it

>>138116136
lel look m8... Spencer create a cult of personality. Most people have no idea what political platform the altright is even running on, but they all know Spencer, and Southern and etc. To prevent our movement from becoming co-opted by a fast talking fagget, we should rely on ideology and structure instead of individual people. This is how Anonymous works. There is a structure, general rules everyone must abide by, and common goals. But anyone can create and lead a march representing us if they respect our structure and rules. Why not? The alternative is no one can do anything without my or someone elses' permission. What we call the group right now doesnt matter. Names and symbols should represent what we teach..what we teach shouldnt try to represent our name and symbols.

This is what I believe we should represent:

>Promoting America First nationalism
>Promoting economic reforms (ending usury, etc.)
>Stopping white genocide
>Killing ANTIFA and Communism
>Ending Zionism and promoting Jewish reform
>Naming the Jew without appearing anti-Semitic

If you goys agree all that's left is to work up strategies for accomplishing each of those things.

>>138116068
>Yes! And isnt it also true that everyone EXCEPT white people wants to live in white lands
Because of gibs. End the gibs, physically remove, theres no use trying to be nice to these people

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>>138116636
agreed! economic reform must happen. gibs must not be gibbin

>>138116575
Average people follow men rather than structures wasn't natsoc a cult of personality to an extent.
What you believe you should represent i mostly agree with but tactically you'll be reserving membership to the chans i.e working like anonymous. Is wider public support a goal in this or not?

>>138116803
Did you say you supported natsoc though?

>>138115425
sauce, for fuck's sake

>>138117171
>wasn't natsoc a cult of personality to an extent.
yes! but only because hitler developed national socialism. he created a cult of personality based on a cult of ideology. if you want to have this you must have that.

>>138117267
yeah. writing a book on it right nao.

>>138116062
This american and/or confederate flags are key here. Symbols need to be people like uncle sam, george washington etc. This is the future for the US. The identity europa stuff could and i think should be salvaged too

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>>138116068
>very well said. also BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP.
>if we fixed our American system using nothing more than the laws already at our disposal, America would be a National Socialists country. this has to be our first thought.

National Socialism is the natural state of any collective.

Americans hate the word National Socialism due to the effectiveness of WW2 propaganda.

Calling ourselves "National Socialist" is to adorn the mantel of a villain. We must adorn the mantel of "Classic Americana", which is what Trump has said sense the get go.

The more we reach into America's "good old days", the more we will appeal. When we are talking about "Classical American Values", we are talking about National Socialism, and naturally European Culture.

We need to keep marketing ourselves as "Classically American".

We must use this brand of being "Classically American", and be "Anti-Communist"

No sane American hates Classical American values, and likes Communist.

If we take on the name "Anti-Com" or "Anti-Communist", we must make sure the Attention Whores like Richard ((( FREE SHIT ))) Spencer stay out and are not just excluded from it, but attacked as just another Marxist.

>>138117633
So the objective isnt to abolish gibs but make it just for white people.
>the cult of personality cam from the cult of ideology
I dont know how much we would need ideology, our problem is not that of 1930s germany. It is not an economic question but a purely racial one, in which case a purely pro-white, regardless of economic opinions, movement (altright) would suffice

listen brothers peace will only come
through using socialism to rid ourselves of
Marxist socialism

You must be for national socialism

look up why, i am not your rabbi because
i believe in you and your seed!

>>138118003
agree with mostly everything m8. only critique i have is perhaps the over-inflation of ANTIFA. see: >>138102822
I believe, if done properly, we could destroy not only ANTIFA but Communism itself in 1-3 months.

>>138118285
What do you think of capitalism (without jews)?

>>138118227
>So the objective isnt to abolish gibs but make it just for white people.
Everyone who can work will work. If you're schizophrenic and cant work, or if you're physical impaired and cant work, you should be given gibs. If youre lazy and pretending to be bipolar so you dont have to work you should be given a bullet.
>our problem is not that of 1930s germany.
everything happening right now is from 1930s Germany.
Even ANTIFA and the AltRight were created in 1930s Germany.
Knowing the strategy of the enemy will allow us to out-maneuver them.

>>138118003
Why does the goal have to be natsoc, classic america was perfect. Without the immigration reform in 1965 and the 10% black population america was a paradise without national socialism

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>>138118003
Is there a version of that image with an American aesthetic rather than the yellow libertarian aesthetic?

At least ancaps fly the American flag with the snek one. Does anyone know of a 'throwing commies out of a blackhawk' image?

>>138098554
It doesn't really matter that much in the long run. The alt-right will always be evil nazis, and instead of going "oh no no no i'm not a nazi," people should see these "nazis" aren't so bad. It's the same thing as "oh no, i'm not a racist!" Once you play according to their rules, you are finished. I can agree that flying the swastika, roman saluting, etc aren't super beneficial right now, but taking a pro-white stand would be viewed the same way a few short years ago. You can't play at the left's game and must instead reject it totally. Remember, everyone here started off with disgust towards "nazism" and normies will do the same.

Also, though not outrightly stating it, Spencer does seem to hold NatSoc views and likely believes the same things as you.

>>138118664
On gibs i would agree that it be used as you have described but what do you think about other goverment initiatives like loans for family and stuff
>everything happening right now is from 1930s germany
Except it isnt, we dont live in a destitute economy and germans werent facing down the prospect at the time of being replaced by third worlders. Antifa vs altright only exist in similar ways to that of the NSDAP vs KDP because of the cultural significance of that period in history.

>>138118679
The NatSoc aspect would have kept that america. That america died because it wouldn't defend itself or halt the descent into madness

>>138119167
>but taking a pro-white stand would be viewed the same way a few short years ago.
This is only because non-whites naturally feel excluded, which makes them weary and even fearful of white nationalism.
White Nationalism..how do you get there? Typically it involves kicking everyone else out..even if their family has lived here for a hundred years. So of course non-whites reject White Nationalism. It's time for a new approach, dont you think?
>Spencer does seem to hold NatSoc views and likely believes the same things as you.
Spencer has promoted using coke. He isn't a National Socialist. He uses our dank maymays to further his own prestige by acting edgy and then does a 180 and promotes Zionism. Spencer is irrelevant.

>>138098554

Fuck off.

If you support white nationalism and oppose Zionism you are a hypocrite.

Every people deserves an ethnic homeland, (((them))) included.

>>138118664
>>138119482
Not everything is exactly the same, but it is shocking to read political books from the 30s and see the exact same problems and events as today. It is spooky

>>138118679
The US was "National Socialist", classically. National Socialism just basically means taking care of your nation first.

People see what the values of National Socialism are, and like it. Then they feel some misguided urge to adorn the mantle of the most vilified groups in history.

Instead they could look back to Teddy Roosevelt or Andrew Jackson, not trying to emulate the 1930's German Worker's party, which was actually trying to heavily emulate the USA!

We need to get though to many of these Meme Lords that they need to stop it with the Swastickas and realize the US flag far more represents them than the 1930's german worker's party.

>>138118984
I think we are working with a blank slate at this point. I feel like our aesthetic needs to be dictated by who we are as Americans, and not some LOLbertarian meme flags.

The every man who used to have a good factory wage, and is now rotting in the rust belt, or farming families displaced by corporate farms in the south etc.. they all see the American flag, they see the pictures of what we were in the 1930's 40's and 50's and they want it back.

I think all things retro from the 30's - 50's should be our aesthetic on some level.

>>138119512
Only because of jewish influence and the abuse/ mobilisation of that black 10%
Natsoc wouldnt be necessary forever nor back then at all, social laws were enforced i.e against homosexuality and miscegenation without authoritarianism

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>>138119482
>what do you think about other goverment initiatives like loans for family and stuff
I think the same thing Hitler thought: encourage traditional families and a growth of white birth rate with payment. We could do this.
>hey white people! raise a goo family and the government will pay you!
but we'd have to be smart about how we initiate it. we'd have to encourage other racial groups who are falling behind in births. otherwise you get the "whites are evil" mantra repeated. blacks are a YUGE minority in the U.S. We could encourage them the same way then who will claim we're racist? But we'd also have to create a state sanctioned program on how to raise a healthy family or we just get welfare niggers. we could do this!

>>138119631
>Every people deserves an ethnic homeland, (((them))) included.
what has israel done with their homeland besides create ISIS and take American gibs? tell us all why they deserve a homeland right now.

>>138119746
pic related. i sincerely meant its all the same. the migrant crisis..antifa... altright... its all the same. its being re-engineered on purpose.

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>>138098554
M8,
I hate jwes as much as the next, but zionism is good. The zionists are the ones who want to leave and go to israel, and good. fuck them. This was basically hitlers plan. Zionism is ok in the sense that all jews need to GTFO our western countries and fuck off.
We wont win anything by promoting the death of all kikes, so peaceful solutions need to be presented, such ass, all the kikes can fuck off to israel.
Just a thought.

>>138119746
To an extent yes, i wonder if there will ever come a time that men dont have to die in the millions for Europe. Not complaining but its a consistent pattern

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>>138120159
what has israel done with their homeland besides create ISIS and take American gibs? tell us all why Zionism is good.

>>138120159
you understand that they wont fuck off until they rule the world first right?

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>>138118679
>>138118984
>>138118403
Tell me this picture isn't the most fucking appealing, aesthetic thing you've ever seen.

ONE NATION
UNDER GOD

We must put this nation back under Classic Americana.

>>138098554
The swastika is poisoned in the minds of Americans, but you could literally copy paste National Socialist policy under a different name and flag and they would accept it wholesale. What's more, Republicans can be scared into siding with it by simple statements racial and voting forecast, ie. if Texas goes blue we will never have another Republican president again, Democrats are winning the demographic war which makes Republican arguments a moot point.

>>138119990
>we'd have to be smart about how we initiate it so were not called racist
Ideally that policy is fantastic but as a matter of circumstance the free market coudl be the way to go on this front.
Rather than shite people saying were going to do socialism just for us we say no gibs for anyone, that way white subhumans wont be able to propagate either

>>138120382
>>138120362

Yes I know. I am jsut saying OP''s post says to end zionism. Zionism is the expelling of jews.
We need to end jewish influence, usery, media control, etc. I agree. and they can have their shitty sand country as long as they stop siphoning our taxes to fund their wars.

>>138120481
No need to replace this with a swastika bro. Perfect, need this shit in england man. Be glad you americans still have a chance in this fight

>>138098554
>But, changing the optics of National Socialism for the purpose of promoting National Socialism is a good idea. So, let's do it for real. Let's do it properly and without Jewish meddling.
I am to smart to be fooled by optics. Natsoc is cancer and a non starter for most of us. You will lose!

>>138098761
>spencer is not a jew
Good goyim

>>138098554
Unless your makeover includes a sincere humble apology and imagery of a world full of colour and united races then you're nazi no matter what

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>>138120527
We just need to look at Teddy's Anti-Trust laws. They are what Hilter modeled most of his tenates of National Socalism after.

And these are LAWS ON OUR BOOKS!

These disgusting fucking Marxist Communist can't steal our history, its there, it was US, the USA.

Not 1930's Germany that came up with the concept of Reservations / Camps, Segregation and protecting and growing American industry.

Andrew Jackson is the one who ACTUALLY smashed international Jewery, not Hitler, Hitler was smashed by it. While Hitler was much more Aesthetic , he was not as effective as our Andrew Jackson at smashing the Internal Jewery banking system.

>>138118003
An antifa countermeasure separate from the core political movement would be a good idea. Don't link them, Anticom should be a blitzkrieg not just a simple counter to Antifa. Win before the battle or don't show up, losing is worse. Minimize losses, antifa is highly ineffective.

>>138120481
Kids used to do the European salute when saying the pledge.
Find that aesthetic bad boy

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>>138120481
its beautiful! also... check this out. we could say the pledge before our rallies/marches and encourage people to use the Bellamy salute. they could use hand over heart BUT... zionists will no doubt compare bellamy salute to roman salute, so when they do, we give them the history and say we saluted our flag in this way to oppose Spencer's roman salute. And we STILL are roman saluting ..albeit in a modified form ;)

>>138120629
this. hitler's socialism was an ethical system more than economic. socialism here means the work you do to make $$$ should benefit society in some way. thats all

>>138120662
Zionism is a pro-Israel stance.
If we agree Israel is committing crimes against our people and the world, we should not embrace Zionism lest we're seen as weak. Zionism might be embraced, sure... but ONLY after Israel has reformed herself, removed the Rabbinate from power and becomes the democracy its now pretending to be. Dont you think? Otherwise we empower Israel by sending it more disposable Jews.

>>138120823
>Natsoc is cancer and a non starter for most of us.
what about natsoc is cancer?

>>138120887
my policy is national socialism...i mean Americanism... for all

>>138120895
THIS

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>>138120801
the Swastika isn't American and shouldn't be the icon of a American movement.

If Hitler or Goebbels would of looked to reach into America's history for American identity, not some foreign country.

However, they were trying their best to emulate or greatest achievements. Something they failed to do.

>>138098554
>>Promoting America First nationalism
that idea with that EXACT phrasing, was already tried in the 1930s, and there will be historical references to zionists and war interventionists accusing that of being a nazi front.
I believe Charles Lindbergh was a member of that 1930s movement, and he had to labor mightily to overcome the stigma in the post WWII decades, only his heroism saved him.
Check your history.

>>138121265
Today we live in the information age. The past is irrelevant because Jews can't bullshit their narrative into the history books any more.

>>138119990

Create the only non-shithole country in the entire middle east.

You don't get to decide whether or not a people have a right to a homeland or not.

You fucking retards the label "alt-right" is for the Nazi's and White supremacy. I am with trump 100% but we gotta recognize radicalized beliefs when they are staring right in front of you. Same this goes to Anti-fa and every other group like them "Alt-left".

Have you guys learned nothing?

>>138120895
Also eugenics programs was based on California USA, they didn't invent it.
See "sterilization for human betterment" book, they did forced sterilization of blacks in North Carolina.

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>>138121200
>we saluted our flag in this way to oppose Spencer's roman salute

This!

Raising our hands will draw in normies and drive lefties insane.

If American can see we are against the "meme nazis", the Rust Belt doesn't want anything to do with Nazis, and most of the young white men who are part of this will be proud to embrace their own American heritage over LARPing as 1930s Germans.

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>>138121490
>Create the only non-shithole country in the entire middle east.
we did
>You don't get to decide whether or not a people have a right to a homeland or not.
and we do. the International community does. and what would you like to bet Israel will find itself fucked if the majority of people in America and Europe complain about her enough?
>pic related
you think evangelicals will be ok with this or do you think they will help us call for Jewish reform?

>>138121503
>kekistani flag
>opinion discarded

>>138121203
Wish more people got this its just whether the divide between the federal and confederate flag can be reconciled. Dont know how deep the gap goes between north and south with you yanks atm but i think the fed flag would be better as its more well known and established

>>138121200
>my policy is national socialism...i mean Americanism... for all
Your policy leaves room for hatres and discrimination to flourish. A failed policy from the start.

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>>138121512
>so eugenics programs was based on California USA, they didn't invent it.
>See "sterilization for human betterment" book, they did forced sterilization of blacks in North Carolina.

This, forced sterilization needs to comeback. My Grandfather actively sterilized niggers by denying them pain medication until they agreed to sign off on a hysterectomy.

>>138121488
>1488
Nice

I know this is going to sound crazy but what really needs to be done is to have our public education system corrected so that people know actual history and not some censored edited version that removes all the details that allow you to be indifferent to the rhetoric of the liberals today.

>>138121725
so the Bellamy salute will be a weapon in our arsenal. you're right: leftists will rage and this will bring us the edgy, left-over AltRight crowd.

>>138121823
>Your policy leaves room for hatres and discrimination to flourish
of course it does! because who will hate the american flag, the bellamy salute and the purging of "neo nazis" who are CIA anyway? Jews and leftists. We will turn Zionists and Communists against us in a sincere way, which will win us the favor of non-Zionists and non-Communists.

>>138121200
>>138121200
>>138121200
BELLAMY SALUTE, YES!
Also we need a mention of God in there somewhere to oppose Communism and show white Christians they need to side with us or Commies will literally kill them all.

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>>138121778
At first, we need American Flags.

The stigma of the confederate flag is that it is for "dumb hicks" from "the south".

While the men who flew it were actually much more educated than the Yankee Irish immigrant army that Lincoln put together.

There have been far more sterilization, lynchings, slavery, genocide and other things that made America Great under the American Flag.

The only flag we should ever fly is the good old US Flag.

Our strategy should be to make the left attack "classic America" as much as possible.

>>138121200
>what about natsoc is cancer?
It still relies on a central control. It still relies on welfare programs, welfare programs corrode the human spirit, no matter what race. Of course I am being very general but if you ask me specific questions I will go into more detail.

>>138098761
You forgot
>has a jew wife that reports to Dugin
>has jew mentor, Paul Gottfried
>his jew mentor named the movement Alternative Right, or Alt-right for short
Your guy is as kosher as it gets, he's the kosher king of white nationalism.

>>138122161
>Also we need a mention of God in there somewhere to oppose Communism and show white Christians they need to side with us or Commies will literally kill them all.
I'm a Christian because of strategy and agree with this. However, I don't think we should be overtly Christian but only "Christian friendly." Otherwise, we drive away the pro-American Pagan/atheist crowd. Our movement should be available to everyone who isnt:

>a communist
>a neo-nazi (natsocs are fine)
>a satanist

>>138122161
So glad to see actual tactical think going on here, revolutionaries not soldiers

>>138122098
when is the last time you attended a local school committee meeting?
the world is controlled by people who show up on schedule. That's all they have to do.

>>138122417
>It still relies on a central control.
every government does..?
>It still relies on welfare programs
only partially true. under natsoc everyone who can work does work. only the legitimately disabled are given gibs. americas welfare system would be fine if it wasnt manipulated by lazy commies.

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>>138122497
ya well I'm no book publisher I dont have any pull.

>>138122692
There is nothing to lead with Antifa, they're complete idiots with no ability to reason.
Proof, Alt-Right posing as Antifa for trolling interview, these people are brain dead soy bugmen:
https://youtu.be/m7U0r_GokLg

>>138122665
>every government does..?
The constitution has not been strictly followed in decades. Those that are guilty of that should be jailed. The US Government is based on Federalism. Per constitution, the only real power that the federal government has is dealing with foreign affairs. Internal affairs are strictly governed by by the states. Destroy the power of printing money and destroy the 17th amendment, this will help solve the problem. We do not need some socialist shit, we need to cleanse our system. You are acting like reactionaries.

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>>138123408
>we need to cleanse our system
we're a loooooooooooong ways away from this.
and as I said: socialism in natsoc just means the work you do should benefit society. for example... gambling on stocks would be illegal because youre making $$$ from other peoples work, and most successful traders use tax loopholes to avoid paying their fair share back to the State. so..we either implement a policy of socialism or we correct the system we already have. right now... our system is shit, so im a socialist at heart. but we can debate this when we actually get there. right now we need support and momentum.

>>138122343
"Classical Americanism" is a good name.

>>138122665
>only partially true. under natsoc everyone who can work does work. only the legitimately disabled are given gibs. americas welfare system would be fine if it wasnt manipulated by lazy commies.
Although I agree, this is a unrealistic goal. I would prefer no gibs but not going to happen. At least for a long time.

>>138123850
>I would prefer no gibs but not going to happen
yeah same here. but with new technology like CRISPR, this ideal is becoming possible.
if we reform our Nation and with it the world, we could all work towards curing mental illness and other problems that results in a person becoming disabled. one day mebbe

>>138123773
>nd as I said: socialism in natsoc just means the work you do should benefit society. for example... gambling on stocks would be illegal because youre making $$$ from other peoples work, and most successful traders use tax loopholes to avoid paying their fair share back to the State. so..we either implement a policy of socialism or we correct the system we already have. right now... our system is shit, so im a socialist at heart. but we can debate this when we actually get there. right now we need support and momentum.
No offense this is a dumb statement. You do not gamble on stocks, you are exchanging capital. Hitler tried this and it failed miserably. You also fail to realize that most employees own stock in their companies. Your idea is antithetical to private property. I will not support any momentum of any socialist movement. In fact I will fight you till death.

>>138123773
All socialism needs to be removed to correct the system.

Niglets need to die in mass because their gibs are gone.

You demanding gibs just makes you sound like a white nigger

>>138098554
>Alt-Right Make-Over: No Zionists Edition

I think you're unclear on just what "make-on" means.

>>138124182
playing the markets can be taken to the George Soros extreme.
Soros creates civil unrest in countries and then makes tons of $$$ in the markets which he has conditioned, by the misery of others, to reward him.

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp

this should be illegal, and either we enforce our laws or we make new ones. but the work you do should benefit society in someway.

>In fact I will fight you till death

ok? then go make your own movement. i have no time for trivial things like "what will our economic system be?" we're roughly 10 years away from having to figure this out. right now we need to focus on fixing the system we have, stopping white genocide and exposing the Jew.

>>138124276
socialism isnt about gibs. this isnt a socialist movement. i am a national socialist. i do not care what you are as long as you love america and are not a commie or zionist.

>>138124276
>Niglets need to die in mass because their gibs are gone
This. if you remove competition in the natural world then species do not advance. This is more than a proven fact. Blacks don't realize that they are killing themselves in multiple ways.

>>138098554
Cut out the ending zionism part.

The movement would benefit from Hitler's example of using zionism as a means to an end.

If we can arrange another attempt at the Haavara agreement, and try and make sure it isn't so ineffectual this time, it would eliminate the jewish presence in America in a way that most people would be forced to come to terms with, as it isn't violent enough to justify retaliation.

>>138107535
We should restart the Silver Legion Of America.

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>>138124728
>The movement would benefit from Hitler's example of using zionism as a means to an end.
hitler didnt use zionism as a means to an end.
the Haavara was cancelled once hitler learned why the Jews wanted to create their own State in Israel.
>pic related
Zionists are not welcomed. In fact, Zionist itself should be disregarded until Israel stops creating ISIS, stops harboring pedophiles, stops promoting Jewish Supremacy. Yes..all of the things the Jews like to say we whites are doing..Israel is actually doing. And its time people find out.

>>138124582
>playing the markets can be taken to the George Soros extreme.
>Soros creates civil unrest in countries and then makes tons of $$$ in the markets which he has conditioned, by the misery of others, to reward him.
>http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp
>this should be illegal, and either we enforce our laws or we make new ones. but the work you do should benefit society in someway.

The market is mostly corrupt because of central banking. Such as printing monopoly money, manipulating interest rates and the use of Mark To Market accounting. If you make free exchange illegal than you are a Marxist.

I don't need a movement, we had one in 1776. It needs restored. You sound young and naive. Not trying to ass blast you but you seem to be lacking on knowledge. I get it, you are pissed, but don't fall into the trap on Marxist ideology. It is based on envy.

>>138125151
>The market is mostly corrupt because of central banking.
then lets march against the FED? why cant we do this?
>I don't need a movement
then go convince white america by yourself? if you can do it ill gladly follow you but i dont think youre Jesus..

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>>138124728
This, I have no problem with providing "greater Israel" to the Jews if they aid in the removal of all socialist / communist influence and brown races from our homelands.

I do say we must make it clear to them that communism will once again be a death sentence in the USA like it was in the 50's

>>138125290
>then lets march against the FED? why cant we do this?
Why haven't you been doing so? You seem to be spending your time lusting over failed ideology.

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>>138125403
why would we support Israel when it is Israel who is behind ANTIFA and the migrant crisis?
we dont have to be "anti-Jewish" in order to say:

>Israel, as our spiritual brother, has allowed perverted teachings to permeate throughout Israeli law and society. For example, a Jew in Israel can not even marry a non-Jew without facing 2 years in prison. Is this really how we see America? Is this really how we see Israel? Until Israel reforms herself we simply can not support Zionism, which has become a weapon for Talmudist psuedo-Jews to corrupt not only Israel but the world.

Whats your argument?

>>138125525
>Why haven't you been doing so?
im creating a group and a movement, which you said you have no need for, so why havent you done this alone? ;)
>You seem to be spending your time lusting over failed ideology.
this thread doesnt exist to debate national socialist ideology. if youd like to do that make another thread and invite me. otherwise, help us anons devise ways in which we can actively fight for white rights without getting shut down as "raycist!"

>>138102190
These brands suck, what about "migratory replacement?"

>>138125290
>then go convince white america by yourself? if you can do it ill gladly follow you but i dont think youre Jesus..
I am not by myself.. There are millions doing so, but it seems you failed for the Nazi meme and you did so because you seem vulnerable. All the reactionary movements pray on vulnerable people. Look at the Alt Right, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter... What do they all have in common... Young disenfranchised youth. Don't fall for the meme.

>>138125783
>"migratory replacement?"
because thats the exact same wording the UN uses, and the UN is responsible for white genocide!
the UN using "migration replacement" because this isnt as alarming as "genocide" and keeps whites from revolting. so why on earth would we adopt the terminology of the people responsible for our genocide? link related: http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm

>>138125792
see
>>138125775

>>138125775
>help us anons devise ways in which we can actively fight for white rights without getting shut down as "raycist!"
You already have white rights, stop sounding like your enemy. You should fight against racism against white and fight against white original sin. The majority of average of whites in America will agree with you. And this is what is actually happening. Does that make sense?

>>138105588
Was using nazi symbolism a thing in the first place? Because that's political suicide man. By the way, any lefty could infiltrate the rallies wearing swastikas to make you look bad.

>>138098554

FUCK SOCIALISM IN GENERAL.

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>>138126196
>You already have white rights
monuments destroyed, white genocide taking place..and white people too brainwashed to do anything about it.
>You should fight against racism against white and fight against white original sin.
you dont even make sense anon. what does this sentence mean? try it again.

>>138125959
>because thats the exact same wording the UN uses, and the UN is responsible for white genocide!
>the UN using "migration replacement" because this isnt as alarming as "genocide" and keeps whites from revolting. so why on earth would we adopt the terminology of the people responsible for our genocide?

This is a globalization problem and not an American problem. I will agree with Natsocs on this, we should leave UN and all other International Organizations. In fact, if you read the Federalist Papers, and you should!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They talked about this and the dangers it has.

>>138126395
racist fuck

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>>138126641
I can agree that using "genocide" on its own isn't the way to go.
But whether we use "replacement" or whatever, we have to link that kosher word with genocide.
When they think "replacement" they have to think "genocide."
It would be so easy too. All we need is some good propaganda to convince everyday people of the reality of white genocide.

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>>138125775
The best way to control our opposition is to lead them to us.

Push Anti-Fa's mind puppets towards Anti-Semitism which should push the kike's infrastructure into our hands.

We can't be so sloppy anymore.

We were shit posting, then we were meming, then we started trying to LARP as Nazis in the name of triggering lefties.

The reality is we are at a point we need to organize and think about how we want to manipulate our enemies, or they will be manipulating us.

>>138122343
Perfect

>>138126477
>monuments destroyed, white genocide taking place..and white people too brainwashed to do anything about it.
You are not being genocided. Statues coming down is not a violation of your rights as an individual. It is an attempt to erase history and is a direct result of Marxist infiltration. (Deconstruction) McCarthy was right! To fight this, academia and the media needs to be confronted.

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>>138127059
what if we just made it illegal to be ANTIFA and had communism outlawed?
then we could work on the altkike...until our movement is the last one standing.
do you know what that would mean? it would mean near Presidential influence over society. it would mean YUGE amounts of $$$ that we could use towards good things instead of just filling our own checking accounts. it means power which we could wield towards to benefit of all and not just the one who wields it...

>>138127161
>You are not being genocided.
Jew detected and filtered.

>>138126477
>>You should fight against racism against white and fight against white original sin.

Sorry, didn't have me glasses on. There is racism against whites by whites and blacks, this needs to be addressed. White original sin is the belief that we are still guilty for slavery and oppression, they also use this to make excuses for their failures. These things need to be addressed in a strategic way.

>>138126925
Agreed saying "genocide" makes you look neurotic whether its true or not. "Replacement" is still palatable to the mainstream and is still true

>>138126925
>white genocide
This is not a thing, at least in the US. It can be, if not careful. You are overstating the situation and will lead you to failure. Europe is another situation. Don't conflate the two.

>>138127553
fair enough. but how to connect replacement with genocide? we could refer to replacement in relation to Europe while referring to white genocide when speaking of south africa..?

>>138127654
youre too aggressive. you seem like a shill. read the convo. look at my response to the other anon above.

>>138127351
>>You are not being genocided.
>Jew detected and filtered.
This is an intellectually bankrupt comment and is a defense mechanism. I am no where near jewish. I am of Italian decent. Do you want to act like a child or have a fucking conversation?

>>138127775
Give europe ten years and there'll be no difference from south africa. As of now yes thats the way to go

>>138127775
>youre too aggressive. you seem like a shill. read the convo. look at my response to the other anon above.
I am aggressive because I am older and thats how we are. I am not a shill, I just try to use logic over emotion.

>>138127775
>fair enough. but how to connect replacement with genocide? we could refer to replacement in relation to Europe while referring to white genocide when speaking of south africa..?

Again, in the US you are not being replaced. Could it lead to that, sure. Most immigration to the US is illegal and has more to do with the welfare state. Again, Europe is completely different and should be treated as such. YES they are probably being replaced.

>>138115724
THIS!! This is your next campaign and it can win because it's actually TRUE. Collect every single tweet, blog, article, quote, etc. that SHOWS in THEIR OWN WORDS the truth about how they see themselves. #jewishsupremacy.
And for fucks sake, show everyone how they do shit and call themselves "white" and then when blame is assigned they suddenly change and demand to be identified as "proud jew".
Show everyone how they commigt crimes and demand/recieve excemptions, and calle themselves "white" while doing crimes and then change back into "jew" mode afterwards.
Remind the OWS crowds that the %1 is mostly %40-%50 jews, and that even amongst the %1 there's infighting and there's a documented %1 OF the %1 that's all jews. It's time to set the goddamn record straight here. These jews can't keep commiting crimes against the REST ofthe country while leaving WHITES carrying the blame for it.

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>>138127351
>what if we just made it illegal to be ANTIFA and had communism outlawed?

In a "perfect world" we would see Anti-Fa / Commies hanged for treason against our United States.

With that said...

We know Anti-Fa is a foreign controlled communist organization bent on usurping the US government and is funded by Communist China and that Marxis Shill Soros.

We just need to look as American as possible on the streets so the public knows who is attacking who.

Then everything else should follow.

>>138127897
>You seem to be spending your time lusting over failed ideology.
>You sound young and naive.
>I am aggressive because I am older and thats how we are.
you dont like what im selling feel free to fuck right off outta here, m8. here's my stance regarding Zionism:

Until Israel stops her bullshit Americans shouldn't throw their support at Israel.
Not being a Zionist doesn't mean you're anti-Semitic.
We frame the matter thusly >>138125775

Until Israel stops creating terrorists groups, until the stop taking more Arab land, and until they stop being Talmudists -- we arent supporting Israel. We will support Jews who seek Israeli Reformation ;)

>>138128310
>Again, in the US you are not being replaced. Could it lead to that
which is why I suggested tackling white genocide from the Europe and South Africa angles. draw attention to white genocide, stop white genocide and prevent white genocide in the future.

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>>138128372
>We just need to look as American as possible on the streets so the public knows who is attacking who.
Agreed. I do have a strategy for defeating ANTIFA and Communism itself. Making ANTIFA illegal will be nothing. Majority of Americans would like to see that happen. So, lets make that happen first? Then, our group would become famous for defeating ANTIFA in America. Then, we can get rid of Communism, which will be a lot easier than you may think.

Eventually, other countries would follow suit.

>>138127775
>fair enough. but how to connect replacement with genocide? we could refer to replacement in relation to Europe while referring to white genocide when speaking of south africa..?
Also remember that our founding fathers were capitalist but were very much protectionist.

>>138128497
>you dont like what im selling feel free to fuck right off outta here, m8. here's my stance regarding Zionism:
Boring and cliche

>>138116575
If you can end "usury" then communism dries up pretty quick. most working class is getting killed on "Interest" on loans. You'll be fucking heros if you can pull off the no usury platform.
In so far as "naming the jew" goes, look, the sky is BLUE, the grass is GREEN, and the guy calling himself "white" is actually a JEW!
It's NOT anit-semitic to acknowledge REALITY and "keep it real". Although, personally I'd refer to them as Christ did, the "synagogue of satan", but that's just me trying to be very specific in my terminology.

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>>138129000
i tried to give you a chance to contribute and not just shill. bye jew :(

>>138128497
>which is why I suggested tackling white genocide from the Europe and South Africa angles. draw attention to white genocide, stop white genocide and prevent white genocide in the future.
Why would you sell Americans on something that most Americans are not dealing with? Illegal immigration ( our biggest immigration problem) pisses off most Americans, white and black. You should take a marketing class.

>>138129070
>i tried to give you a chance to contribute and not just shill. bye jew :(
You sound like a leftist, you cant stand wrong think!

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>>138129069
>synagogue of satan
jesus had the best terminology. and i dont see why we couldnt have a branch for christians who relate to this perspective, after we come together as a movement first, of course.

>>138129298
>>i tried to give you a chance to contribute and not just shill. bye jew :(
You also have no argument thus the insults. You are indoctrinated.

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>>138128742

> Making ANTIFA illegal will be nothing. Majority of Americans would like to see that happen. So, lets make that happen first?

I'm down man.

We really should start a VOAT board or Discord for everyone who wants to branch into the Americana movement.

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>>138125959
I'm sure the UN terminology could be stigmatized. The word "genocide" in "white genocide" and similar brands is hard to take seriously because: 1) sounds exaggerated, there's literally nobody being killed when people mix. You could say future generation of white kids are being killed but they literally don't exist yet. 2) has been used by neo-nazis for way too long, it's hard not to associate the term with them.

A new term must be meme'd or get a current one stigmatized. Equating "replacement" with "genocide" is a nice idea. There are more terms that could be used in place of "replacement", like erasure or removal.

>>138129901
discord has to update but can make a channel. you wanna admin the voat board?

>>138098554
Taking about jews doesn't help you retard.

>>138118003
>Americans hate the word National Socialism due to the effectiveness of WW2 propaganda.
this is plainly obvious and cannot be debated, anymore.
>We must adorn the mantel of "Classic Americana", which is what Trump has said sense the get go.
That's what he SAID, but now "we" get to get him to DO IT. Stay on his ass, and in his ear. Bannon fucked up, it's time for "us" to step in and do it CORRECTLY.
>The more we reach into America's "good old days", the more we will appeal. When we are talking about "Classical American Values"
Define this term and stick to it. This is about setting a STANDARD of measurement that MUST be maintained for ALL americans to STRIVE FOR. If you're falling behind or failing to meet this BASIC standard the YOU are not doing it CORRECTLY.
Forcing everyone to retard themselves is killing off ALL Americans. This is not up for debate, it is publicly documented Fact.

>>138130225
I can certainly help, or go mix one up if needed

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>>138130317
someone will talk about Jews, anon.
it will either be low IQ altrighters who may mean well but are too dumb to realize how much they hurt the cause, or it will be us who can use a more delicate approach to accomplish the same thing. pick only one.

>>138130429
good post

>>138130535
for sure. we need to do like >>138130429 says and create our structure, rules and etc. before we advertise tho. creating a manifesto is important

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>>138130535
just set up. will add bots and stuff later. this is for people ITT who want to build up this movement.

deezcord.gg/Y8hZ3k

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>>138130570
We have to embrace "Jews" that are not globalist, communist or anything like that.

Appearing anti-Semitic for the sake of anti-semitism will hurt us at the start.

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>>138131301
>We have to embrace "Jews" that are not globalist, communist or anything like that.
Unfortunately this is true. Pic related only further proves it.

>>138131301
Agreed. Majority of Jews in America and Europe are atheist and have no real connection to Israel.
They are likely to join our cause for Jewish Reformation in Israel if we present ourselves as pro-reformers rather than anti-zionists.

Reformation before Zionism or no deal.

>>138126247
Not if you physically remove them yourself. Who would save them? IRL demonstrations require aggressive self discipline. Anyone too stupid for hwhite taquia is useless anyway.

>>138119631
then (((they))) should've fought for that land themselves instead of lying and conniving the world into "giving" it to them. Lazy kike bastards can't even fight for their "own homeland". pffft. No wonder God expelled them in the first place.
>>138120895
>We just need to look at Teddy's Anti-Trust laws. They are what Hilter modeled most of his tenates of National Socalism after.
And these are LAWS ON OUR BOOKS!
THIS!
>>138121488
>Today we live in the information age. The past is irrelevant because Jews can't bullshit their narrative into the history books any more.
No, they do it REAL TIME now. ;) Document that shit and shine a light on it. Jews try to have their cake and eat yours too.
>>138123820
>"Classical Americanism" is a good name.
Yes it is, just make sure it's on you can live up to by example, so that others can emulate and maintain, not just a shitposty throw away term. Build a solid foundation.
>>138119772
>Instead they could look back to Teddy Roosevelt or Andrew Jackson, not trying to emulate the 1930's German Worker's party, which was actually trying to heavily emulate the USA!
>German Worker's party, which was actually trying to heavily emulate the USA!
THIS. "Classical Americanism".
What were we like BEFORE we got dragged into Europe's wars, and suckered into being "the police of the world".

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>>138133198
>No, they do it REAL TIME now. ;) Document that shit and shine a light on it. Jews try to have their cake and eat yours too.

true! so isnt it time we got serious about stopping them?

>>138127972
We don't have to push white genocide if we push charity and awareness for south Africa. Observers will see it.

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>>138133609

Any other Proud Boys* notice a huge shift in tone after UTR? When I joined, everybody was zealous and excited to fight communists. Since UTR the attention whores and aspiring e-celeb guys that pollute our Facebook groups have been saying that "we aren't even a political group in the first place," and of course the along-for-the-ride dickriders are showering these messages with praise and agreement. "We are a fraternity, not a political group that goes to rallies and stuff. We are a frat and our only goal is marriage and procreation - period."

This explicit capitulation has widened the rift between our groups and the infighting is at an all time high. The Proud Boys look like outright cowards right now. True to form, the Soldiers of Odin have remained upright and true in the face of the UTR fallout. The FOAK and the Alt-Knights are taking steps to separate themselves entirely from the Proud Boys. The situation was much better when the group was young, but now the new guys will call you out for saying nigger. I was telling a story and I referred to a girl as a bitch, and somebody interjected with "I think you mean woman." I am embarrassed for the Proud Boys at this point, their words and actions following UTR have been nothing but cowardice and submission. It is a real shame.

I'm not saying anything new here, I am only explaining to anyone on the fence that if you are looking for legitimate people, then stay away from the Proud Boys. Again, I'm stating the obvious, but this is for those who haven't made up their mind yet. I will probably make the transition over to the Soldiers of Odin soon. From my interactions with them, they've always been a good model regarding conduct and ideology.

*Before you start stating the obvious, I already know that the Proud Boys are a shit group. I got roped into all of this by a fascist friend who convinced me that "it is just a cover for something better." He is just as disenchanted as I am by all of this.

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>>138135190
where did Gavin touch you, anon? haha jk. why not help us create a group that actually has a chance of success..which isnt full of larpers or zionists?

>Moarpheus
kek why hasn't this lolcow been laughed off of /pol/ by now

also what happened to your Twitter account lmao

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>>138133198
>Classical Americanism
We need to start a CAG general , just post pictures of classic America.

No real propaganda or rhetoric, just pure Classic America is A E S T H E T I C as fuuukkk and will draw all the normies in

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>>138135624
its not too late to join with me. i told you what would happen to the altright didnt i? its not too late...

>>138135654
ill bump your threads

>>138135419
What matters MOST is whichever group's loyalty to their founder or leader and their so-called "core tenants." The Proud Boys all worship Gavin, so if he says capitulate, then they capitulate. Another example is the FOAK and Alt-Knights, who worship Kyle Chapman as their god.

The Soldiers of Odin are organized locally and don't concern themselves too much with the "global network." Therefore, they almost never get wrapped up in the petty inter-party politics that the other groups do. I am only speaking from experience so this might not be true everywhere, but they are always the first to engage the opposition at rallies, they are the most effective at doing so, and they are the most laid back and casual guys to hang out with afterward. There is no ego-drama, their is no gossip, and there is no virtue signaling.

If you are building a group, then realize that capitulatory "optics" DO NO MATTER. The Proud Boys have turned themselves into "SJW Cowards: Patriot Edition" because of their preoccupation with optics and PR. I'll monitor this Discord for a while, but this seems like a waste of time and energy when we already have some decent groups up and running. Avoid anything PB/FOAK/Alt-Knight or any other group that has expressly aligned itself with some "good PR" e-celeb. I am on the fence about Spencer but at least he is fucking explicit with his message. I'd avoid American Vanguard too. From my experience with them, they are 100% open about their beliefs, but they are mostly limp-wristed NEET twinks who are no use at rallies (in my experience.)

Anyway, I'll watch the Discord a while, but this endeavor doesn't seems like it will bear any worthwhile fruit to be honest famalam. Either way, good luck.

>>138136221
Your Twitter got suspended just like the rest of the alt right got deplatformed, you're controlled opposition and your cia handlers need to uphold appearances by deplatformeing you.

>>138135654
yeah, don't try to bullshit yourselves, and others, with blatant fantasy. Just remind ourselves about what we ALL want, safe places to sleep, clean food to eat, clean water to drink, tolerable if not outright friendly neighbors, children that are healthy and respectfull of OUR (americans) community.

>>138136853
No complaint with Soldiers of Odin, only their strategy.
Look: if they or someone else deported every single refugee, without addressing the root cause of the refugee crisis, that cause will just send more refugees. This is why Tommy Robinson and Lauren Southern are such failures. However, they also cant simply shout "Jew!!!!!!" all day or they won't be taken seriously. So what's the solution? How can we stop the Jews responsible for the migrant crisis without seeming anti-Semitic? This is the purpose of our group: to think in ways the rest arent for the purpose of achieving the same goal.

>>138137046
i screenshotted why my twitter got killed.
i called out jewish bolsheviks for raping kids in germany.
got reported, got killed 15 minutes later.
nothing odd about it.

>>138122457
Dugin belongs to the Alternative Right in some aspects. Do you even read Counter Currents dude? Fuck this place is goin downhill fast.

>>138137125
Getting the US back to her former self is my fantasy. I think we should make it happen.

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>>138135654
>will draw all the normies in
And in order to achieve the goals necessary to bring Classical America back, you will need to be (far) Right.
You think the almost 50% of non-whites in the country will let Whites regain their nation without a fight? Americans are about to understand just how good they had it before they burned it all to the ground for MUH FEELINGSSSSS

>>138137326
You're controlled opposition

>>138137778
>(1)

ok. so what am i controlling exactly? im telling you to stop white genocide, forget Zionism, to name the Jew, and to stop communism. how *exactly* does this help the enemy?

it doesnt. youre an altright shill trying to shill because youre movement i told you so.

>>138137563
We need everyone we can get.

The Commies are not just coming for the (far) Right, they are coming for all Americans who don't want to submit to the destruction of the Constitution and a Authoritarian / Tyrannical police state

>>138098554
t. schlomo goldberg

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>>138137990
You're on cia payroll you're obviously controlled opposition. The alt right doesn't exist. Fuck off cia nigger

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>>138138307
>haha youre controlled op cuz i say so but i cant explain why
moving back on topic now...

>>138136853
>worship Gavin
>worship Kyle Chapman
that was their first mistake. pfft.
>organized locally and don't concern themselves too much with the "global network." Therefore, they almost never get wrapped up in the petty inter-party politics that the other groups do.
exactly.
>There is no ego-drama, their is no gossip, and there is no virtue signaling.
THIS is their strength.
>realize that capitulatory "optics" DO NO MATTER.
Matthew 23:27King James Version (KJV)
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres,
which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Read as: Vanity with no Integrity. ALL Show and NO Go.
>>138137326
>How can we stop the Jews responsible for the migrant crisis without seeming anti-Semitic? This is the purpose of our group: to think in ways the rest arent for the purpose of achieving the same goal.
Show their lies and failures for what they are. Just like how "we" reveiled the Bush-era, Obama-era, hyprocracy and war crimes. stay on it.
>>138137488
I get your point and agree. So do a great many other people, show the destructive effects of degeneracy, without looking like a prude. Kinda like showing how Lung Cancer is a fact / conquence of smoking. You can't reach everyone, because they will argue JUST to argue [ as I'm sure /pol/ of all places is WELL aware ;) ]. In this visual media based culture, you have to show by living example, kinda like how "hipsters" go out of their way to find "vintage" stuff and built a sub-culture around it. Otherwise, this is all vain words blowing on the digital winds. Gotta define the basics and stick to them, just make sure it's accessable to ANYONE who WANTS to emulate "the white standard of living", i.e. "Classical Americana".
But also: study the original "Black Panther" movement and look at how they conducted themselves and how they were responded to by the "state".

>>138137326
>How can we stop the Jews responsible for the migrant crisis without seeming anti-Semitic?

See what I mean? Doomed to fail from day one. This is like saying, "how can we win this fight without having to fight? I could totally win the fight, I'm just terrified of getting punched."

You are planting the seeds of surrender in yourself already. We don't want to seem anti-semetic, we have to change the shape of our message a bit, we have to sell this to the majority population, and boom: you're running a squad of cucks. This will only attract people who agree with the patina of your message, but not with the true message or goal, and once you are outnumbered by people who are too afraid to say the wrong thing, who say that they are willing to fight but are too afraid to get punched so to speak, then your group will be subverted by your own hand.

Either solve the problem and eradicate the Jews and their enablers or stop talking about it and move on to something else. You are trying to sneak your way into the utopian post-semetic Evropean Paradise like a rat instead of walking proudly through the front door like a man, you are trying to trick it into existence instead of building it and bleeding for it. This is what Jews do, trick and subvert and mislead.

Do it or don't. Shit or get off the pot. Fuck or pull your pants up. You have not left the planning phase and you are already an appeasing mess. YOU may have the true goal in mind, I don't doubt that, but you will only attract sneaky rats to your cause, and eventually you and your ability to serve the goal will be overwhelmed and drowned by them, which is why people are resorting to more literal ends more and more around the world. I understand that you only want to serve the goal, but the actions that you are taking can only result in the formation of yet another nest of diseased Jewish rats to swarm out from.

Your intention is true but you are using methods that will inevitably betray your intention.

>>138105588
>checked

Agreed. It's time to take back and make it American Nationalism. As much as NatSoc has good ideas (economically especially), we won't be able to get American Normies to join in on a German Nationalism. But if we take American symbols, and run with them, then the normies will be much more comfortable and they'll feel personally attacked when the Alt-Left tries to label them as racist.

Hell, since they hate the Rebels so much, maybe we should take some of the lesser known Union Battle flags and carry them? After all, we're about "uniting the union as an ethno-state" right? They can't complain about "Racists fighting for slavery" if we're literally bearing the "Anti-Slavery" flags now can they?

>>138098554
>end usury
>end zionism
>this guy is a shill
wut?
idk who this tripfag is, but this is a legitimately good idea. you shouldn't swat away good advice just because of the source. who cares what it's called and what flag you wave. what matters is the message. promote that through some other non-degenerate means. win hearts and minds. sway the masses. just leave the message alone.

>>138139400 (checked)
>Show their lies and failures for what they are. Just like how "we" reveiled the Bush-era, Obama-era, hyprocracy and war crimes. stay on it.
this. fixing our problems is as easy as this. just need to get people away from the cancer of the altright.

>>138139462
>See what I mean? Doomed to fail from day one. This is like saying, "how can we win this fight without having to fight?
You can't think of a way so its doomed? If Jews are behind the immigration crisis, and we want to expose Jews specifically as the culprit, we have to distinguish between them and every other Jew who is not responsible or who may even oppose white genocide. Otherwise, we alienate potential allies. Accomplishing this is a simple thing:

>separate Torah based Jews from Talmudists
>paint Talmudists as evil Cabal responsible for white genocide (they are)
>effectively naming the Jew and destroying the Talmud in one go
>while winning non-religious Jews to our cause for the purpose of marching against Israel because its a Talmudist theocracy

or... OR.. we could just scream
>GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NAO

see this anon's perspective >>138139658

>>138098554
CHARLOTTESVILLE WILL NOT PAMPER OUR RESOLVE. IT ONLY STRENGTHENS OUR COMMITMENT. MANY YOUNG WHITE MEN LOST THEIR LIVELIHOODS FOR PEACEFULLY ASSOCIATING TOGETHER FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS. THE JEWS WILL PAY.

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>>138140406
well, Spencer has lost the white majority vote who side with Trump.
you have a lot of zeal but I dont think very many ideas on how to accomplish your goals. Spencer has proven ineffective at best and a malicious agent in our midst at worst. It's time for a new approach. It's time to start playing chess, anon...

>>138140637
you saw it at face value. the left is so scared us of us they are silencing us via firing us, blocking our twitters, removing right-wing media sources, etc. they saw the friday night before charlottesville and they are terrified. they only seem so confident because of james fields (a fucking schizo) and the entire MSM behind them. this is only the beginning.

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>>138141293
what are they scared of? if they were scared they'd leave you alone in fear or trembling. theyre erasing you because you gave them the justification they needed. now they can delete your shit without facing a discrimination lawsuit. Spencer has led your ship to sinking.

>this is only the beginning.

on this we agree..

>>138140220
>You can't think of a way so its doomed?

What are you talking about? I said that your idea is doomed because you want to solve a problem without anybody knowing that you are solving the problem, so this will only attract people who don't care about the problem, and soon the majority of the group will consist of people who don't care, and the majority will overwhelm the rest and will overwhelm any good-intentioned influence that you yourself may have had. Aside from that point, do you honestly believe that the mass population that you want to subvert wouldn't see "Talmudists are evil" as anti-semitic? "We won't say all Jews, we will just say SOME Jews!" as if that tactic hasn't been tried and hasn't failed one thousand times already? You want to march with non-religious Jews? The liberal Hollywood movie star Jews are the ones who say " I was born Jewish but I'm an atheist." You want to march with atheistic American Jews against Israel, just so people that we don't have to name the problem? You would prefer a Jewish alliance to a little bit of extra struggle?

Your idea is doomed to fail because it is a bad idea that does not serve its purpose that will inevitably be subverted and stolen for you, ESPECIALLY if you welcome literal atheistic Jews into your fold.

I don't think that you're a bad guy, I just think that its a bad idea. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe you'll prove yourself right, maybe you can sneak your way into paradise with the help of the Jews after all. Once again, good luck and all of that.

we must continue fighting, even if they try to silence us or even kill us. we must do it for future generations. who would have thought that big brother would just be a bunch of liberal millenials with iphones, publicly shaming people into belieivng what they believe. this is not only a cultural war, but a spiritual war. humanity will have lost if we allow them to control it all.

"I have left no one in doubt that if the people of Europe are once more treated as mere blocks of shares in the hands of these international money and finance conspirators, then the sole responsibility for the massacre must be borne by the true culprits: the Jews. Nor have I left anyone in doubt that this time millions of European children of Aryan descent will starve to death, millions of men will die in battle, and hundreds of thousands of women and children will be burned or bombed to death in our cities without the true culprits being held to account, albeit more humanely." - Adolf Hitler, Political Testament.

>>138141519
if they werent scared they would have just let us have our rally. instead they showed up with facemasks, mace and weapons. then they are doing everything they can to silence us on all platforms. believe me, you are only creating people who have nothing left to lose once they are shamed. you think they are gonna be like "oh maybe my political opinion is wrong, ill change my entire life" no they will be thinking "ive been persecuted for what i believe in, fuck them". a civil war will come soon and you will lose. all the left has is media, but once it becomes a street battle you will lose.

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>>138141663
>"We won't say all Jews, we will just say SOME Jews!" as if that tactic hasn't been tried and hasn't failed one thousand times already?

First, anon... the Jews you think I'm pandering to aren't even Jews. They're Khazars, only they don't realize this. Most Ashkenazim Jews aren't religious -- they're atheist, and they work against us because actual religious/Talmudist Jews convinced them the white man is the problem. And even this is based in Jewish religion. So it seems to me the problem is the Jewish religion, and with it, the desire to destroy the Aryan/Amelekite race. Why don't we encourage Ashekenazim Jews to abandon their false connection with Israel, seeing as they aren't actually Jews, and embrace their European sides? Will this fail? Show me when its been tried?

>pic related

>>138141682
agreed

>>138142112
ANTIFA showed up with face masks and weapons.
The same Jews funding ANTIFA are funding the Alt-Right.
The Alt-Right and ANTIFA are CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.

Wake up!

>>138098554
>ending usury
End usury? LOL here's the secret: stop borrowing money at high interest rates r-tards.

>>138137326
like what >>138139462 said:

>How can we stop the Jews responsible for the migrant crisis without seeming anti-Semitic?
by NOT doing >vid related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnXBeQwmmrc

>I could totally win the fight, I'm just terrified of getting punched."
>to sell this to the majority population, and boom: you're running a squad of cucks.
Lowest Common Denominator poisoning.
This kid got a Rude Awakening, and "fate" or "god" or whatever, just did him a favor and gave him a nut check. And did "us" a favor also, by seperating the weakend from the rest of "us".
>>138140220
>You can't think of a way so its doomed? If Jews are behind the immigration crisis, and we want to expose Jews specifically as the culprit, we have to distinguish between them and every other Jew who is not responsible.
like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bvfKAL7lKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VaKLMD9Aac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTpKASahAc

and doing things like THIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFDvtzwT-TU
get it ON the RECORD! period. and peer-to-peer transmission.
>separate Torah based Jews from Talmudists
>paint Talmudists as evil Cabal responsible for white genocide (they are)
>effectively naming the Jew and destroying the Talmud in one go
>while winning non-religious Jews to our cause for the purpose of marching against Israel because its a Talmudist theocracy
EXACTLY!!!
>>138141293 THIS!
the "alt-left" over-reactionaries are showing that they don't, can't, and WON'T even abide by their OWN standards and propaganda. they are kvetching like kikes. "We" need to stand on solid truth and firm logic. no more poo-poo-pee-pee nonsense. we don't need it, never did.
>>138141519 THIS! and this is why spencer was a failed shill and tipped his hand. Hold these wannabe "leaders" accountable for their actions and don't trust them anymore.
>>138141663 "we" don't NEED to say it and be "anti-semetic" because the 'Jews' themselves have already said it.

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>>138142611
checked

>>138142671
agreed. we can convince people of our ideals through discussion/debate and superior propaganda

>>138141663
>you want to solve a problem without anybody knowing that you are solving the problem, so this will only attract people who don't care about the problem, and soon the majority of the group will consist of people who don't care, and the majority will overwhelm the rest and will overwhelm any good-intentioned influence that you yourself may have had.
This also applies to
>>138139658
this

Non-ethnic "American Nationalism" in action still represents the exact same demographic distribution that we have right now. Whites will still be outbred by Hispanics with American Nationalism. General "American Nationalism" is for Mestizos living in the United States who have ambiguous racial identities and can't comfortably align themselves with white nationalism.

This is the preoccupation with optics that will doom us all in the end.

>>138142284
Compare this to the classic "school bully" scenario. You are saying "I can just talk him out of it and convince him to bully someone that I don't like instead" instead of saying "I will fight him the next time he comes around." There is only one functional way out of that scenario.

You'd actually accept the people who have been working against us into our world? If somebody murdered a member of you family, and if you needed a ride somewhere, then would you call him up and suck his dick for a ride? "He isn't that bad after all, and I really don't feel like walking." Can you really forget it all so quickly?

This whole plan just gets worse and worse the more you explain it.

>>138098761
This isn't even Moarpheus. I agree with you but Moarpheus is a radical and thinks we aren't Nazi enough.

>>138143036
>Non-ethnic "American Nationalism" in action still represents the exact same demographic distribution that we have right now.
why assume its non-ethnic just because we arent going to chant "shitskins go home!!!!"

???

>>138143036
>You'd actually accept the people who have been working against us into our world?
like who? name 5 Jews right now who are working against white people.

>>138143210
Incorrect.

>>138105815

>(((Steve Cohen)))

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

>>138105145
>kill yourself namefag subversive shill nigger.
The good thing about dumb movements like alt-right is that they end up eating each other. All that from mom's cozy basement.

>>138143299
>like who? name 5 Jews right now who are working against white people.

You just admitted that it was atheistic "Jews" who harm white people, you just said that they are misguided, and that we can reorient them. That doesn't undo the actions that they have taken in their delusion.

>>138143299
Describe an ethnic American to me. "White" is way too general and is really only used in the United States because most American whites are an amalgam of actual European ethnicities. Is an ethnic American British, or German, or British AND German? Or is it German and Swedish or Lithuanian but not Polish, or Dutch and Irish but not Iberian? Explain in detail how to differentiate between an ethnic American and a non-ethnic American. Again, "white" is way too broad and encompasses far too many separate identities to be called an identity in-and-of itself. Describe an ethnic American without using the word "white."

>>138142913
not by "discussion" and "superior propaganda", but by living example, period. the politicians in Flint used "propaganda" to deny the fitlhy water that the people filmed comming out of the tap, and bottled up, and brought TO the town meeting, physically. Blowing smoke up everyone's ass isn't going to cut it White Man. you're dank memes have brought you this far, time to start doing some IRL memeing by living up to your own standards that you expect others to strive toward.
>>138143036
>Compare this to the classic "school bully" scenario. You are saying "I can just talk him out of it and convince him to bully someone that I don't like instead" instead of saying "I will fight him the next time he comes around." There is only one functional way out of that scenario.
MuthaFuckin' THIS! Just make sure it's a legitimate bully and not just some "percieved threat" or other strawman/scapegoat.

>>138099072

All three deaths were unrelated to any white gathering. The guy in the car was convicted by the media, not any court. This hysteria is simply jews lashing out at everything.

Here's a tip for any Nazi's or larpers here:

White ARE superior to every race except for Asians, to which we are equals in terms of industriousness.

Drop the Swastika's and all that bullshit, you only undermine your own point and alienate the normie from you. Want these things to work? Promote a meritocracy. Wanna know why? Only Whites and Asians would ever come out on top.

It's fucking simple. Stop fucking up in such a fundamental way. Fight for equality of opportunity, because that alone drives out any non-white non-asian by default.

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>>138144087
>you just said that they are misguided, and that we can reorient them. That doesn't undo the actions that they have taken in their delusion.
You're right! Of course. Soros and other kikes actually repsonsible for opening our borders and etc. should fall hard. Entire organizations and non-profits should fall real hard. We should make an example out of them. But we also can't throw out the baby with the bathwater. If we mean to make real changes in Israel's government we're gonna need Jews to do that. Israelis won't listen to anyone but other Jews.

>>138144087
white == anyone of non-jewish european descent. i agree with you about the term white..its a jewish trick used to divide the aryan race. but in this case its europeanism. to arrive at this we can either kick everyone else out (bad idea) or encourage them to "return home" and they leave willingly (good idea). naturally some non-whites will stay but i mean... isnt 10 or even 20% non-white population much better than 49%+???

>>138144115
why dont we do both? why not attack these issues on social media with dank maymays and go into the streets and attack there?

>>138105588
>to keep a National Socialist approach
Wait a minute I'm trying to understand this alt-right bullshit. You're anti-left but you want to keep a NatSoc approach which is essentially a different flavor of leftist crap. Are you retarded?

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>>138144584
this anon is playing chess

>>138144671
>encourage them

I'm out of here. It was fun while it lasted.