Based on America's Free Speech Amendment, would you be allowed

Nobody who is outraged actually fought in WWII or was gassed by hitler.

>>138075763
Tell that to over half a million American WW2 Veterans that I mentioned.
>You stupid cuck.
At least you admit that Hitler gassed people.

>>138075561
'39 nazi =/= '17 """""nazi"""""

>>138076144
Nope.

>>138076449
>Confederates are nazi.

k.

Here is another reason you cannot be a Nazi:

NAZIS ideal government was based on SOCIALISM.

Most Neo-Nazis lean far right, and protest AGAINST SOCIALISM.

YOU CANNOT BE A NAZI IF YOU ARE POLITICALLY ALIGNED WITH THE RIGHT.

>YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO YOUR COUNTRY

>YOU LOST IN WORLD WAR 2

>YOU ARE LOSING NOW

>YOU WILL ALWAYS LOSE

>TRUMP LET HIS DAUGHTER MARRY A JEW AND GAVE HIM A POSITION IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

>FUCK YOU.

>>138077120
You mis-quoted me because you couldn't come up with a logical argument. Because I'M RIGHT, and NAZIS ARE WRONG.

>>138077376
You don't even know what the nazi ideology was, try to read about it before saying everyone is a nazi.

Saying that everyone disagreeing with you is a nazi, destroyed the impact of the nazi word.

>>138076034
>all veterans are combat veterans
>everyone in WW2 fought on the same front

Goddamn you're fucking retarded.

As long as they are not materially supporting ISIS. I won't like it, I will think they are assholes and scumbags and traitors but they have the right to do it. We got the right to burn Qurans, too.

>>138077711
>destroyed the impact of the nazi word

Except it didn't. Only you alt right shills say that and keep parroting it to the other shills. Be loud enough and you think its going to be true.

>we're not nazi!
>March with people waving swastika flags
>Swastika tattoos
>swastika ideology
>Not nazi!

You had a case before your buddy went and ran over a bunch of people. That's it. It's over.

>>138077775
Japan allied with Germany. America fought Japan, and Germany.

Allied vs. Axis

You're the retarded one, you stupid faggot.

>>138078221
You are implying that I am a nazi.

You are extremely retarded if you think so, I was only explaining things to you.

>>138075561
>>138075561
its all larping faggots. 70 years from now white people will be dressing as burkas and wearing isis flags cause isis will be fucking dead. all islam will be dead. and then it will be ok.

>>138077711
I studied Nazi ideology in great detail for about 3 years of my life, for a research paper and then a thesis.
I know exactly what Nazis stood for.
Continue to put words in my mouth instead of coming up with your own valid argument will only make you look like the stupid cuck that you are.

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>>138075561

Yeah man, losing and being wrong are totally the same thing. Please consider suicide.

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>>138078627
Poeple raid this board every fucking day, fuck off with your LARPing.

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>>138078635
The majority of countries who fought against the Nazis were right, and that is why they allied together. Nazis are not the minority you want to stand up for.

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>>138078944
kys

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>>138078990

>>138079148
No, you.

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>>138079169
I don't mind being compared to gorgeous, sweet, fluffy animals. Thank you :)

>>138075561
You know what faggot, if this man wanted to protest and wave is ISIS flag around without attacking anyone I would defend his RIGHT to do so. Not sure why that is so hard for you commies to understand that.

>>138078475
Probably not yet you're shilling the same bullshit they do. Pro tip: stop trying to rationalize literal neo nazi behavior and maybe you won't get called one retard

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>>138075561
>no true scotsman
>false analogy
>ad hominem
>begging the question
>0 arguments
(You)

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>>138079361
I'm not shilling, you are the shill, retard.

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>>138079320
I am a Moderate Republican who stands for free speech. I don't think people should be thrown in jail for waving a flag. There are however, social consequences for free speech this vile.

Not to mention that, waving either an ISIS or a Nazi flag is morally wrong. Only people of poor moral character would do such a thing, and I think it's important people recognize that.

>>138075561
Finally someone speaks some fucking sense. Bless you good sir.

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>>138079527
>no u
>leaf

>>138077711
And Nazis marching openly in the street and driving cars into crowds brought it back.

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>>138079587
That pesky first amendment, amirite?

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>>138079527
>no u

lmao

>>138079368
Perfect analogy.

2 wars, 2 flags, same dumbass cucks waving said flags. Do you have any logical response or are you going to continue acting like a stupid faggot?

>>138075561
Hitler did nothing wrong & Americans fought on the wrong side in WWII.

Also the holocaust never happened.

>>138079790
>Nazis marching openly in the street and driving cars into crowds
source?

>>138079790
This is your society problems, not mine.

You did everything possible for this to happen, you guys are the laughingstock of the world.

Have fun in your "civil war".

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>>138079947
>more fallacies
>0 arguments
(You)

>>138079912
You have no idea who I am. Now, come up with a logical response or forever be a cuck.

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>>138080095
Well, I guess if that's the best you can do... I just feel bad that you're so uneducated, and possibly lacking in the IQ department. But that's probably not your fault.

>>138075561
>Based on America's Free Speech Amendment, would you be allowed by the government to fly this flag without fear of imprisonment?
>Yes

Actually, you would probably face serious legal consequences for promoting a group classified as a terrorist organization.

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>>138080227
Possibly, maybe the NSA would be all up on their ass, considering the Patriot Act. But according to the amendment, it's legal.

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>more fallacies
>0 arguments
(You)

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>>138080108
>not leaf anymore

>>138078627
>studied nazi's for 3 years
>can only come up with ad hominem bullshit

Kys faggot

One of the biggest issues I have with Nazi ideology is the leftist-socialist slant, where the sick and elderly are killed off because they're a "drag on the state" similar to what Stalin was doing in Russia.
People can't help being born sick, Jewish, Black, and they certainly can't help getting old.
Capitalism isn't perfect but it guards against these types of practices.

>>138079368
>sage
>posts a picture

lurk moar

>>138080536
What is the argument you can come up with? I don't see one. Uneducated faggotry is the only thing we've seen from you.

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>>138080536
lmao he studied nazis, wrote a thesis, and has exactly 0 arguments. this is the quality of a liberal arts masters, everyone. feel free to point and laugh.

>>138079587
>Moderate Republican
>Posting on /pol/
Get the fuck out faggot.

>>138080878
No, we're pointing and laughing at you because you're just spouting faggotry and no counter-argument.

My argument is clearly stated. If you are a Nazi, you are a traitor to the United States and everything this country stands for.

You cannot be a Nazi and an American at the same time.

What was your argument again?

>>138080901
You can't really make me, but you could try to develop a counter-argument. Unless you're too fucking retarded...

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>>138080717
>being this new

>>138080792
how did you write that thesis with 0 arguments? was your academic adviser a pink-haired landwhale? you don't have to answer

>>138081067
Ford was a nazi.

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>>138081067
>My argument is clearly stated. If you are a Nazi, you are a traitor to the United States and everything this country stands for.
>You cannot be a Nazi and an American at the same time.
no true scotsman. i'm not seeing any arguments from you, sweetie

>>138081181
I'm sorry that you can't understand English, fucking foreigners... I swear. You tell them something twice, three times even, and they still don't understand.

Argument: You cannot be a Nazi and an American at the same time.
Also, Nazis are morally wrong and flying the Nazi flag is subsequently, morally wrong.

Your response? Nothing but faggotry.

>>138075561

What happens if you simply believe in National Socialism for Americans and not for Germans?

What about Communism? Or Anarchism? Both have been the death of Americans (Anarchists assassinated President McKinley). Are you un-American then?

What about if you only support an ideology someone else calls ISIS, Nazi, Communist, Anarchist but it really isn't?

It's almost like if you deviate from the status quo, you support America's enemies!

>>138081269
Unfortunately, yes. What's your point there?

>Equal representation under the law.

Fly whatever flag you want. If you act upon the ideas and commit a crime, you'll be arrested. If the flag bothers you so much you commit a crime, you'll be arrested. I don't doubt for a second in this day and age that people are so polarized they resort to taking risks like this, but we also know 'internet fame' is a thing.

Flying an enemy flag should be considered an act of war and they should be shot on sight. If they surrender they should be tried for treason in a military court, then executed.

>>138081475
>Argument: You cannot be a Nazi and an American at the same time.

here's my """"""""""argument""""""""""
only nazis are true americans

>>138081519
If you drive a Ford, you are a Nazi scum.

>>138081482
I think supporting any political ideology that undermines the constitution is morally wrong. For example, "All men are created equal", and various other discrimination clauses.

You can believe in Socialism, that's fine. It's morally wrong when you believe in a political system that marginalizes minorities, the poor, sick, or the elderly.

All men are created equal and by law, should be treated as such.

>>138075561
>Do you think they appreciate that you fly the flag of the enemy THEY PROTECTED YOUR FAMILY FROM?
nazis did not threaten the US and, besides, the US should have sided with nazi germany in wwii. it's one of the fundamental mistakes in the US's history--second only to bringing niggers here as slaves and not castrating them

>>138081556
Oh finally, you said something. But you're wrong. America was born way before Nazism came along. Again, America helped fight and defeat Nazis so... I don't know how your brain can possibly put together such an idea, but then again, I don't expect Nazis to be profoundly logical.

>>138075561
Kill him, you don't need moral justification, this is a war, don't be weak kill him

>>138081475
That's your opinion.

>>138076034
>none of these people were gassed by hitler
>aha, i see you agree that hitler gassed other people
Do you see what's wrong with your brain yet

>>138082004
You are morally wrong and so brainwashed that nobody would ever be able to set you straight, not even if a Nazi says that you deserve to die.
Have you ever had your DNA tested to make sure you're 100% European? Better jump on that.

>>138082035
>But you're wrong
no. you're wrong

do you see how it's impossible to have a debate when your arguments are solely based on fallacies?

you're wrong. i'm right. nazis are true americans and america should have sided with nazi germany in wwii

>>138080373

>But according to the amendment, it's legal.

It's also legal for them to label you as an enemy combatant, it's not just the NSA you have to worry about.

>>138082311
>ad hominem
>ad hominem
>no true scotsman
zzz

>>138082222
It's an argument. Where's yours?

>>138075561
so why do we allow muslims into the US, when it offends so many US veterans?
inb4 "isis isn't islam!"
yes it is.

>>138082449
>argument
>based solely on logical fallacy
sweetie...

>>138081067
Being american isnt an ideology, being NatSoc is. American soldiers fought the germans, not the ideology.
Some vets might even prefer facisism over the current system (like gen. Patton)

As for waving the nazi flag, why wouldn't they? Would you be as mad if someone waved the WW2 italian flag?
Or the fact that people constantly wave commie or commie-friendly flags?

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>>138082450
>inb4 "isis isn't islam!"

>>138082274
Many Neo-Nazis disagree with what history and scientific evidence has proven, that Hitler gassed people. I'm not sure why I had to explain that to you. So at the very least, that person believes the factual information about the gassing. Which is profoundly better than not believing it. How is this relevant?

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>This level of absolute BUTTHURT

>>138082421
A good point. Could also be why Neo-Nazi groups are monitored by the FBI, because many of them perform terrorist acts in the US.

Freedom of speech is the most fundamental American right. That is why it's the first amendment. To deny someone that right is to deny that person the idea of America. Fuck off commie. I don't like Nazis or ISIS or commies but I will defend thier first amendment rights vigorously.

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>>138082741
>Many Neo-Nazis disagree with what history and scientific evidence has proven, that Hitler gassed people
the holocaust did not happen. where is your evidence?

>>138082449
Nope that is your opinion, not really an argument because it's not legal.

>>138081551
But america isnt at war with nazi germany anymore?

America was at war with mexico once, should people no longer be allowed to wave the mexican flag?

>>138082450
I don't disagree with you there, but I don't think all muslims are inherently terrorists. Their religion is fucking bullshit though, that's for sure.

>>138083008
Libertardian detected.

>>138082864
If you read my posts, I never said flying a flag should be illegal. I support freedom of speech before all else. However, I DID say that flying an ISIS or a Nazi flag is morally wrong and Anti-American.

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the problem is this one not being looked at the same way those other 2 flags are.

it's illegal here to fly a nazi flag even tho we didn't fight them.pic related is fine tho.

>>138083057
>all muslims aren't inherently terrorists.
then not all Nazis are evil.
which would explain why the US gov't imported so many Nazis after WW2.

>>138083219
Yes and that is your opinion. Thanks for shilling.

>>138083008
His post was stupid. Flying a flag should be legal. But, flying these particular flags (ISIS, Nazi) is morally wrong and again, Anti-American.

>>138083219
>free speech is anti-american
commies like you are anti-american

>>138083104
Non-argument detected

>>138083406
>But, flying these particular flags (ISIS, Nazi) is morally wrong and again, Anti-American.
all commies should get the gas

>>138079527
Nice image leafbro

>>138083503
Because "free speech" has worked so well...

>>138083332
I said Nazis are morally wrong. Some of them definitely evil. Some following orders. Some served out of fear, and most certainly not evil.

>>138083573
agreed. free speech is the foundation for civilization.

>>138083625
>I said commies are morally wrong. Some of them definitely evil. Some following orders. Some served out of fear, and most certainly not evil.

>>138083642
No.

>>138083625
>I said weeaboos are morally wrong. Some of them definitely evil. Some following orders. Some served out of fear, and most certainly not evil.

>>138083625
>I said black people are morally wrong. Some of them definitely evil. Some following orders. Some served out of fear, and most certainly not evil.

>>138083700
yes

>>138083420
I think it's really sad that you suck at backing up your beliefs with logic. By all means, continue to misquote me. It's totally adorbs, my fellow troll.

>>138083625
>>138083673
>>138083701
>>138083738
do you see how basing opinion on fallacies can be used to spout any opinion?

>>138083701
>>138083738
>>138083760
Look how excited...

>>138083770
>I think it's really sad that you suck at backing up your beliefs with logic
toplmao

>>138083625
>I said People are morally wrong. Some of them definitely evil. Some following orders. Some served out of fear, and most certainly not evil.

>>138075561
Big commonsense pill, well done OP

>>138083889
>commonsense
fallacy

>>138083800
How can you possibly compare the fucking Nazi regime to weeaboos? Do you see how you're a fucking uneducated, beta cuck that just follows bad ideas? I'm not gonna waste my time replying to you anymore.

Comparing Nazis to fucking weeaboos. Yeah good one.

>>138084025
how can you compare a nazi to someone who is un-american?

>stop saying/doing things i don't like or i will punch you/you're a traitor/whatever
that's how you identify niggers, antifa and neonazis
they're the 3 groups that should be removed from earth

>>138084025
so then you agree that blacks, communists, and Democrats are evil. Just not weeaboos.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying that :)

>>138075561
The thing is;
Do you think they still believe they did the right thing in going more than a thousand miles back to the land of their ancestors, to slaughter their people out of lies claiming "Liberty and Justice", only to realize that they defeated the wrong people?

Do you think they tolerate what is happening here? To their children? To their country? To the "liberty and justice" that they bled for and saw their folk bleed for?

Answer me that.

>>138084167
How it's a weaboo un-american?

It's all I ever meet since I started visiting the internet.

Granted I may have a 4chan bias but still, you all seem well versed in nippon cartoons.

>>138084025
a nazi in america is someone who is exercising their political freedom, first amendment, and right to assembly. therefore, nazis are quintessentially american

>>138084424
>How it's a weaboo un-american?
how is a nazi un-american? see: >>138084453

>>138075561
Nazi imagery has always been a part of American motorcycle club culture...guess what kind of men laid the foundation for those clubs? WW2 vets. I think it's safe to say those men don't get sand in their pussies over a flag or whatever.

>>138083700
So what's the alternative?

And where does it end?

>>138083008
Nah, I'm talking about ongoing wars.

If you display the enemies flag it mean that that is territory claimed by that group. That's why armies always make a big deal about tearing down flags and putting up their own.

>>138084662
In that case waving a nazi flag is 100% okay, which createa a hole in your argument.

>>138084662
>flags
these symbols are loved by the symbol-minded

>>138084378
No, I don't think so.

You assumed that everything the US government does is morally right, and it certainly isn't. The US has made their share of mistakes. Systematically killing millions of our own citizens because they're deemed "unworthy" or "unclean" due to race/religion, is NOT something we have done nor will it be something we EVER do, because that would definitely be morally wrong and all kinds of illegal within the laws of our constitution.

But that doesn't change anything. Flying an ISIS or Nazi flag is still morally wrong, and will always be.

Good post, though, I think it's important to note that the US isn't fucking perfect.

>>138085074
Tldr;
It's legal but it hurts my widdel feelings...

>>138085074
>Flying an ISIS or Nazi flag is still morally wrong, and will always be.
opinion

>>138084583
The ideologies between Nazis and Americans do not mix, arguably they are opposites, so the fact that there are WW2 vets with Nazi patches on their cuts is something I find totally hypocritical and paradoxical. In fact I would find it hard to believe.

However, just because WW2 vets laid the foundation for a culture doesn't mean that culture could be poisoned by incoming members who support Nazism.

why does the DAESH flag say ALLL JEWS on it? is that code? it reminds me of that Secretary of the Treasurer who signed his name on the currency so it looked like JEWS

>>138085560
US Constitution: "all men are created equal"
Nazism: No, all men aren't created equal.

Again, you cannot be an American Nazi. You are a paradox and a traitor to the constitution.

>>138085596
>The ideologies between Nazis and Americans do not mix, arguably they are opposites
opinion

>>138084883
I see the confusion, my fault.

I was talking about the ISIS flag in the op, not the text in the op where he was drawing a false equivalence between the 2.

>>138085918
>conflating equality of opportunity with equality of outcome
topcuck

>>138085939
US Constitution: "all men are created equal"
Nazism: No, all men aren't created equal.

Again, you cannot be an American Nazi. You are a paradox and a traitor to the constitution.

>>138075561
>There are 558,000 American Veterans who fought the Nazis in World War 2, still alive today in 2017. There are four WW2 Medal of Honor recipients still living in 2017. Do you think they appreciate that you fly the flag of the enemy THEY PROTECTED YOUR FAMILY FROM?
Only problem with this perspective is we remember history for the explicit purpose of avoiding the mistakes of history. In Germany they are making this mistake. I imagine everyone will be surprised when Germans start behaving like Nazis even though they may not fly the flag of the Third Reich.

>>138075561
There's a difference between Legally allowing all free speech, and whether one should Morally/Lawfully speak it.
It is up to an individual to decide how to act and each individual must deal with the consequences of their actions. Words are not violence, if you act on someone's words, you are the perpetrator. People need to act independently and morally. If you offend Vets with your ideology they have a right to be angry and rally against you but not to stop you from saying what you want.

>>138086050
What about communism thst everyone is equal?

>>138075561
I've seen people say your allowed to burn the stars and stripes but to not be surprised if someone punches you for it. Amazing the double standards when it come to expressing white supremacy and ethno nationalism.

>>138086050
>conflating equality of opportunity with equality of outcome
topcuck

>>138086090
They are certainly making a mistake in Germany. But you cannot predict the future, and with Merkel in charge, I don't think she's going to start systematically killing all those refugees. Especially not as a member of the UN.

>>138086050
First immigration law passed in America limited citizenship to free whites of good moral character, you fucking idiot. Slavery was also legal.

When they said "all men are created equal" they were talking about whites. Because non-whites aren't people.

>>138086050
Muh Constitution won't save you from shitskin invaders.

>>138075561
I also remember seeing a lot of commie flags on the left side. I wonder how many US veterans fought communists after WW2.

>>138086099
I agree. Freedom of speech above all else. Words are not violence.

Flying an ISIS or Nazi flag is still morally wrong and Anti-American, but if that's something they wish to do, go ahead. Let the social consequences prevail.

>>138077120
Confederates were democrats. KKK was founded by democrats. Jim Crow laws were created by democrats. The Nazis based policies on the Jim Crow laws. Why are democrats tearing down evidence(statues) of their hateful past? What are democrats trying to hide?

>>138086549
Your opinion on what is morally wrong is your own and not everyone's. You are not the thought police, fuck off back to your moral pedestal.

>>138086415
Yes, and then it was realized that slavery directly contradicted those words in the constitution, and it was realized that slavery is morally wrong, and the legality of slavery was then made illegal.

Still do this day, our country is struggling with treating all men equally, and that is a problem. Clearly.

>>138086415
>Because non-whites aren't people.
13th amendment changed that.

>>138086551
You are unfamiliar with the history of how much the Democratic and Republican parties changed over the period of our country's founding. Go read about it.

>>138082853

FBI has controlled most neo-nazi groups for the past few decades.

It's smoke and mirrors

>>138086864
>Still do this day, our country is struggling with treating all men equally, and that is a problem. Clearly.
We have laws guarantee equality of opportunity. The battle for equality is over. I see the left fighting for special privileges and segregation. Everything that was fought for in the civil rights movement is being shit on by the very party that opposed those equal rights.

>>138086805
Me, the thought police?

I made a logical argument that you cannot be an American and be a Nazi at the same time because those two ideologies are nearly the opposite.

US Constitution: "all men are created equal"
Nazism: No, all men aren't created equal.

Sure, be a Nazi. But by being one, you will inherently betray the constitution and therefore you are Anti-American.

>>138087397

>Me, the thought police?
>you will inherently betray the constitution and therefore you are Anti-American.

Yes, you; the thought police.

>>138087373
I see the left doing all kinds of stupid shit, and yes you are correct. The left cries wolf and fucks everything up. However, it doesn't mean racism doesn't exist in the US.

The left is fucking stupid in how they are handling it.

>>138087397
The same argument works for american muslims, given that you been fighting them to this day.

They don't like american culture also.

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>>138087755
>They don't like american culture also.
but they take advantage of it wherever they can

>>138087584
Pointing out a paradox in American Nazism would probably make them uncomfortable, so I can kinda see how you would think that.

But you cannot be an American Nazi without betraying the constitution. That is fact.

>>138087138
>You are unfamiliar with the history of how much the Democratic and Republican parties changed over the period of our country's founding. Go read about it.
On the contrary you are unfamiliar with how integrated the south is. They aren't racist down there. The south didn't go red till long after the civil rights movement. Long after people in the south learned that black people are an important part of the US. Conservatives want to free the poor from the shackles of welfare. Democrats want to keep people ignorant and enslaved.

>>138087755
If American Muslims don't like American culture, why the fuck are they staying here? They can get the fuck out and go live somewhere where they fit in better.

>>138087655
> it doesn't mean racism doesn't exist in the US.
Everybody is racist. Our instinct that helps us recognize our family is being used to blame one group for all the ills of society.

>>138087397
Your argument is not logical. In America where people are free, no one gets to tell someone else what they can be, think, or say. To do so goes against the fabric of my country. But you too have a right to be butthurt by folks who think differently from you. Is freedom a difficult concept for you?
Btw I hate Nazis as much as you but my dedication to the core values of my country dictates I protect thier freedom of speech as much as my own.

>>138088060

Sure you can, you just can't work in government and be an american nazi without betraying the constitution.

The constitution was utterly betrayed with the Patriot Act, anyway.

>>138088060
>you cannot be an American Nazi without betraying the constitution. That is fact.
You shouldn't hold the laws of your religion above the laws of the state either. People still do it.

>>138076449
Uh, yup

>>138079587
>social consequences

what, like doxxing? and calls to their employer? stalking their family? physically assaulting them? where is the line that cannot be crossed, you communist nigger?

>>138088107
You are covering a lot of issues in just a small post. So, my answer to that is...

The south has always been more racist than the north. The south fought to keep their black slaves, they lost, but continued to be racist. The south is where Jim Crow laws were made and enforced. The south is where blacks fleed from on the underground railroad. If the south wasn't racist, why would freed slaves flee to the north?
I lived in the south, I have family in the south. There is more racism there than where I live now, in the north.

As for Conservatives and Democrats, yeah that's pretty much it but probably not to the extent that you're describing.

>>138088292
I fully disagree with the statement "everybody is racist".

>>138088803
>the south was more racist

wrong. even lincoln, before the civil war wanted all the niggers deported back to africa.

>>138086285
> I don't think she's going to start systematically killing all those refugees.
The German people are the outgroup this time.

>>138088795
i think he's referring to hurt feelings

>>138088561
"People still do it" does not equate to being morally right.
And I completely denounce religious law of any kind.

>>138088803

>If the south wasn't racist, why would freed slaves flee to the north?

Because the north had industry that wasn't purely field work.

Northerners were just as racist, though they offered opportunities before the south.

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>>138088932
so if you were given the choice between living in a 90% nigger neighborhood vs a 90% white neighborhood you would not have a preference? you don't have to answer this because i know you're just going to reply with "i wouldn't care." this is a question meant to activate your almonds

>>138088932

It's biological fact.

You can fight your pre-disposition towards in-groups all you want. It still exists.

>>138078221
>>March with people waving swastika flags
>>Swastika tattoos
>>swastika ideology
>>Not nazi!
You know this is literally antifa, right? I think you are in the wrong board

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USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

>>138088795
I'm a Republican and I'm not black.

Social consequences that do not betray the constitution. No violence. No crimes. That is the fucking line, idiot. Who the fuck do you think I am, Anti-Fa?

You CAN be right leaning and not be racist, you know that, right? What the fuck.

NO VIOLENCE. NO CRIME.

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You might as well start flying this in Chicago, with the shootings and all...

>>138089003
I am talking about this century.

>>138079118
>says the jew

>>138089424
JEW hahahahaa!~

>>138089270

>You CAN be right leaning and not be racist

That all depends on who is defining Racism, doesn't it?

>>138089266
>buzzwords buzzwords, buzzword words

>>138089266
Hitler didn't kill himself, newfag.

>>138089577
LIAR!

>>138089225
I have lost everything during the 2008 crash and I have been homeless, I have lived in both all black and all white neighborhoods.

You know nothing of who I am. Absolutely nothing.

>>138089420
>shifting the goalposts

>>138089577

Shit I didn't learn until a couple years back that he didn't have brown eyes.

Thanks propaganda education.

>>138089517
This is a true statement.

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>200 replies

>>138089684
t. lying faggot

>>138089684

And I've lived in Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, and Milwaukee.

What's your point?

>>138089270
i was asking about your loosely defined """""social consequences"""", white nigger

>>138088803
>The south has always been more racist than the north.
The south is infinitely more integrated than the north. Everybody is racist. Stop pointing fingers. You look foolish.

>The south is where Jim Crow laws were made and enforced.
by democrats. They also created marriage licenses to prevent interracial marriage. Before that the state had no part in marriage. Notice the push for more government.

>I lived in the south, I have family in the south. There is more racism there than where I live now, in the north.
Perhaps you should look at the way the black community is resegregating itself. That is racism. Look at the way MSM has declared the ghetto black stereotype as the only acceptable way to be black. The democrats want minorities ignorant of the control being exerted over them. Keep voting for segregation. Keep voting for special privileges based on race and sex. Watch freedom and equality slip into the abyss.

>>138089780

I too have lived in Chicago and Detroit. What's yours again?

>>138089791
I believe I answered that.

No violence, no crime.

>>138089926
>deflecting this hard
god damn nigger you're really bad at this

>>138077238
>Nazis are socialists

You're a fucking idiot. Are you a boomer? This is boomer fucking logic, you spastic.

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>>138090017
>No violence, no crime.
so no niggers?

>>138089926

My point is; nobody gives a shit about anecdotes here.

>>138089829
Dude, for the 1000th time, I'm not a Democrat. So I'm not sure why you're preaching at me about how shitty they are, when I already know.

What does this have to do with my original post?

>>138090137
>using statistics

dont be so racist, anon!

>>138075561
>American soldiers who fought ISIS

But American soldiers have never fought ISIS.

>>138090182
Yeah I honestly forgot what you were talking about, is what I'm saying. I'm multi-tasking at the moment. At work.

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>>138075561
IF YOU ARE A COMMUNIST, YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN. YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO YOUR COUNTRY.
LEFTISTS AND RACIST BLM HATE THE AMERICAN FLAG AND US SOLDIERS AND ARE ATTEMPTING TO EQUATE REAL PATRIOTS TO PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR COUNTRY TO THE JEWS AND THEIR SLAVES.

>>138089926
With your thought police attitude have you considered Sweden. You'd fit right in.

>>138090315
dont american soldiers actually fight FOR isis?

>>138090315
They have, and they are.

>>138089080
>morally right
Freedom of speech is about competition of ideas. Bad ideas must be heard so they can be laughed at and discredited. This push toward banning "hate speech" is going to result in more hate. People are becoming more sympathetic to the white supremacists because they are being oppressed.

>>138090345
fUCK COMUNism and fUCK FACISM?
and fuck you

>>138090345
If BLM supports violence and the belief that whites should have their rights taken from them, then yes, they are betraying the constitution.

I denounce violence on many sides.

>>138090411
Where? When?

>>138090350
No, I'm a fucking Capitalist American, a Moderate Republican. What the fuck.

>>138090350
FAGGOT

>>138090203
I disagree with your assessment that the south is more racist. I lived in Mississippi and have experienced much more intolerance and segregation in liberal states.

>>138090434
Again, I have never said that freedom of speech should be taken away FROM ANYONE. I vehemently disagree with banning "hate speech" because that cannot be fairly policed and it too, betrays the constitution. Where are you getting the idea from that this is what I want?

I am simply saying, you can't call yourself an American if you agree with ideologies that betray the constitution.

>>138090739
>>138090914
Just a suggestion, jeez.

>>138090962
For real? Mississippi is the most niggerly state in the nation. The south definitely has more racism than a liberal state.

>>138090962
Honestly, it's anecdotal from my experiences there. You could say that it depends what part of the south you're in, what county, what cities. So yeah we should just stop trying to argue one is more racist than the other. I digress. :)

I have seen some crazy racism in rural parts of the north, for sure. MY experiences say the south is worse. Lets not continue this anecdotal argument.

>>138091070
Lib-er-tard-i-an.

>>138075561
What I can see is an entitled little bitch who is oversimplifying the topic and turning the attention away from the core issues of the whole, public 'debate' on right-wind politics.

Your reasoning would only be valid if the whole WWII deal wasn't arranged and forced for completely different ulterior motives; but you fall for the ((official historic consensus))) without questioning it one bit. What (((people))) like you don't realize (and how could anyone expect you to?), is that the way you portray and push your opinion as absolute and unquestionable - puts you and your kind in the same basket as the groups you condemn. Your whole world-view is supposedly based on questioning the current system (even if you weren't a leftist), but you don't question what you believe in - which is dangerous and stupid, to say the least. If you did have the capacity to question everything, as you should, you wouldn't be here, spewing your bullshit - which some of the anons were quick to dismantle.

Fucking SAGE, you dumb little brat.

>>138091292
>They are black therefore they can't be racist

>>138091282
I think there are a lot of countries I would be fine in, and yeah Sweden is beautiful.

People tend to get grump when accused of thought policing people.

I disagree with though policing. And aren't there hate speech laws in Sweden? That isn't something I would enjoy at all.

>>138091363
My assessment is that everybody is racist. So it is hypocritical to point fingers. The laws have already been changed to address racism and all we can do is deal with individual instances as they arise.

>>138075561
hell fucking yes OP. There is nothing more un-American than a nazi. National Socialism above else entails a willingness to give up person sovereignty for the elusive "State". Yet you morons claim that "lefties" and SJWs worship the State when in reality they are much closer to the side of fighting for equality and individual liberty, two distinctly American values. You cannot be both nazi and american.

you cannot call yourself a "conservative" (classical liberal-ish) and believe in fascism. They're ideological antitheses.

you people are pathetic. you have no ideology, you just have hate. you're willing to meander around different topics, re-negotiate, and hold true to nothing solid so long as your hate guides you. you slither just like you claim the jews do when in reality they have the decency to hold on to tradition, decency, and hard work.

the jews did not make you unemployed kissless virgins. immigrants didn't either. your parents made the foolish decision to reproduce and carry on shitty genetics for the sake of their "name". and you've been told the story of being able to do anything so clearly something is getting in the way right? must be those damn immigrants and blacks.

mediocrity is noble. accept decent, simple lives. the romans would laugh at you, any past generation would laugh at you, and your more accomplished peers are laughing at you

>>138075561
What if I'm in the military right now? Still a traitor?

Maybe I'm not going to take advice about who is and isn't a traitor from a group that wants police forces abolished and anarchy in the streets.

>>138091831
if you're in the military and are a nazi, you are most likely a dumbfuck who joined the military with no other intention than to kill

this makes you a bad person. you're the bad guy.

>>138075561
They didnt protect us from Nazis. Hitler wanted the West to be on his side, he wanted no war with them. The only flag that we actually protected ourselves from in WW2 was Japan's, and I consider 2 nukes to have been more than enough repayment.

>>138091070

>you can't call yourself an American if you agree with ideologies that betray the constitution.

Alienating extremists is a dangerous road to go down when the country is so polarized.

Why pick one side and not the other? How is fining me $200,000 for not saying someone's preferred gender pronoun any better?

>>138091466
Your country is getting cucked. I really don't have to say anything to you other than, flying a Nazi flag is a betrayal of the American constitution and therefore anti-American.

Have fun with those refugees.

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>A modern suicide bomber from Libya who targets random western civilians and believes in Allah's victory over the kuffar. Maybe beheads some captured journalists before being BTFO by Ivan.

>A 150 year dead farm boy from Georgia who is defending his home in America. Who believes in Jesus. Who died in a musket volley from an Irish immigrant from New York.

Same thing OP, you are right, they ISIS and the Confederacy are the same thing.

Thank you for correcting the record.

>>138091824
Hahah, I like you. But I'm not an SJW nor will I ever be.

>>138091972
This. The Americans who fought the Nazis were good goyim. It wasn't our fight and we let the commies walk only to see them inflate our infrastructure and destroy morality. Screw goyim veterans.

>>138091070
We are getting into semantics. American can be anybody living the North and South American continent. I'm a citizen of the US and am bound by the laws in the constitution. I don't have to agree with the laws. I have to live by them till the constitution is amended. The very fact that the constitution was designed to be amended implies that disagreeing with it was expected.

>>138091831
If you are in the military and are a neo-Nazi, then you are betraying your country.

I'm not sure why you think I want police forces abolished and anarchy in the streets, where'd you get that from? You are assuming too much.

>>138091652
Seriously brosephous, your moral judgement is far less important than a constitutionaly protected right.

>>138075561
Just because some piece of shit communist thug says we're fucking nazis doesn't make it so, faggot.

Check yourself. Stalin was worse than Hitler ever was, and Antifa is nothing if not Stalinesque.

>>138077376
>this left wing terrorist violently pissing into a sea of piss

>>138092243
neither am i my good man. but I do believe i social justice. these names distract us. antifa causes problems. but anti-fascism is a topic any decent american should get behind. SJWs are annoying and entitled. but social justice and equality of opportunity is something that should be fought for

>>138092380
You are just repeating the same argument over and over again.

>>138091992
Who the fuck wants to fine people for not saying someone's preferred gender? Where the fuck are you getting THAT from?

I'm a Moderate Republican and I am against racism and any action that goes against the constitution, which includes violence, anti-freedom of speech movements, and discrimination of any sort of people.

There are 2 sexes and I'll leave it at that.

>>138092289

>It wasn't our fight and we let the commies walk only to see them inflate our infrastructure and destroy morality.

This is something boomers literally can't comprehend.

They still don't see it, I think they are just unwilling to.

>>138092702

New York State, it's a law on the books. If you're an employer and you don't call someone Xir after they tell you to, $250,000.

>>138092392
Seriously brosephous, I would never support anti-free speech laws, and I never said that I would.

I am talking about morals.

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>>138075561
would you say the same about this flag?

>>138092877
you are retarded. where'd you go to law school guy? im assuming you're more the 6 years to finish an associates kinda type

>>138092671
Equality and free speech, that's what I'm about.

SJWs are doing it wrong. And of course, AntiFa is doing it wrong too.

>>138075561
Well what about the war on terror and then being back stabbed by the first nigger president. I'm sure every veteran knows how bullshit the senate and congress is.

>>138090128
>Nazi's are not national socialists.
do you need me to take you back to your special education class?

>>138092003
H-how is this a valid response to anything I said, or even related? Are you getting your answers from a magic 8-ball, or are you pulling them out of your ass?

>Your country is getting cucked.
>Have fun with those refugees.
So judging by this, one should assume you're at least ((right-leaning))
>flying a Nazi flag is a betrayal of the American constitution and therefore anti-American
But you actually aren't, because if you were, flying the nazi flag would be a non-issue for you, even if it WAS against the constitution: which it isn't. You didn't even bring up the constitution argument in your first post.

Obviously, there is a strong dissonance between the opinion portrayed by your first post and the one I just referred to.
You are yet another amateur shill, sent here as cannon-fodder in a vain, half-assed attempt to stir up the board. What you didn't know when you signed up for this, is that you're dealing with people can use their brain. Unlike you.

Everyone sage this fake ass shit.

>>138092877
What the fuuuuck, I'm going to look that shit up. Jesus christ that's a fucking nightmarish law if it's true.

>>138093140
I agree. But I consider a lot of them misinformed and over zealous but with their hearts in generally the right place. I would support them over neonazis any day of the week

>>138075561
This. You are sworn enemies of the German people (who no longer exist). Waving a Nazi flag is disrespectful by any measure.
It's like shooting tigers and then proclaiming yourself a tiger-lover while wearing a tiger-pelt.

>>138076144
stop being this stupid.

>>138093330
Apparently the German flag is also disrespectful.

>>138093265
no there are judicial rulings against hate speech. a nazi flag qualifies as hate speech. there are limits to free speech when it serves to incite violence, which a nazi flag always does.

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>>138093330
of course, the cuckistan of swiss cheese who didn't fight in WW2 and are "Culturally enriching" it's people are for banning someone freedom to be a douche.

>>138075561
then why do you fly the communist flag? we arent about that shit either.

>>138075561
Speech that advocates overthrow of the U.S. government is not protected. I'm not sure that flag would be legal.

>>138092967
still waiting on an answer

>>138093265
My original argument was that you cannot be a Nazi and be an American at the same time, because the two ideologies are paradoxical.

US Constitution: "all men are created equal"
Nazism: No, all men aren't created equal.

I think freedom of speech should prevail before all else, but you cannot have American morals and be a Nazi. Nor can you have Nazi morals and be an American.

Supporting the enemy of a country makes you a traitor to that country.

My post was fair in comparing two enemies of our state.

>>138093700
Are you stupid? By agreeing with OP, I was actually expressly against banning it. I was only saying how disrespectful it really is.
Also, learn something about Switzerland before you try to insult it, maybe you'd look less stupid in future that way

>>138093620
>flying the flag of your vassal state is disrespectful
huh?

>>138093572
FUCK YOU FAGGOTS!

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS!

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS!

FUCK YOU FAGGOTS!

>>138093786
BEING AGAINST NAZIS DOESNT MAKE YOU A FUCKING COMMUNIST. IT'S NOT ONE SIDE AND NOT THE OTHER. HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE THIS LOGICALLY INEPT.

I DISAVOW THE SOVIET UNION AND NAZI GERMANY AS ANY DECENT AMERICAN SHOULD. FUCK YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS

To be fair Americans mattered very little in the war against Germany, their biggest contribution would've been liberating the french but even that failed as the french recuperated far faster than the Americans could act. Then after thatthey merrily counted french victories as their own despite being barely involved.

>Inb4 "but we sold things!"
Well done little pseudojew, but that's hardly relevant to the actual involvement and the sacrifices made in war.

But even then it's sort of a dickmove to that three-and-a-half soldiers you lost, and needless to say it also makes you look pretty bad to those who actually contributed, which is mainly Russia, but plenty of others grandstand about that war too, if to a far lesser degree than you.

>>138093330
Good analogy.

Not only disrespectful but the complete opposite of American values which are written in the constitution.

Man, I'm getting really tired of typing the same thing over and over. I might go have dinner.

>>138093057

>a. Intentional or repeated refusal to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun or title. For example, repeatedly calling a transgender woman “him” or “Mr.” after she has made clear which pronouns and title she uses …

>Covered entities may avoid violations of the NYCHRL by creating a policy of asking everyone what their preferred gender pronoun is so that no individual is singled out for such questions and by updating their systems to allow all individuals to self-identify their names and genders. They should not limit the options for identification to male and female only.

You should read the laws sometime.

It's pretty crazyu

>>138075561
>you will always lose
lul
weak-ass gaslighting from people who unironically succumbed to the liberal meme

>>138094219
>(((American values)))
I meant disrespectful to Germania though, tbqh

>>138094049
Merkel hates it. Have you ever see her at a rally taking German flags from people?

>>138093929
Someone else brought that up, too. Do you think the same concept would apply to people flying Nazi flags in the US, in the 1940s during the war?

I think flying the ISIS flag 70 years from now would still be morally wrong and offensive to those who fought against that "regime", if you can even call ISIS that.

>>138094123
>its not one side or the other

thats what we all thought too. but the media, institutions, and everyone in power including the entire left pretty much begs to differ and now we are being forced to take a side! (:

>>138094397
Disrespectful towards Merkel, I guess. That doesn't mean much though.

>>138094382
>echo quotes around american values

dude the jews had no part in developing american values, except for selling those men slaves

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>>138094123
burning American flags and flying commie flags does though.

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>>138094049
maybe go to the Alps to chill your salty butthole and the OP is FOR banning it you dumbass next time learn to read and maybe you won't look like a tard

>>138094209
DEUS VULT???? HOW FUCKING DEEP ON THE SPECTRUM ARE YOU AUTISITC MOTHERFUCKERS.

Every online neo nazi is a fucking pussy. Every marching neo nazi is a fucking pussy. You are all pathetic. Your familial genes have most likely degraded to a point. I'm guessing you're just some stick figure cunt whose dad works a union job, is obese, drives an f-150. probably you all shop at sams club. and you're branch of the genetic tree is so utterly pathetic that im guessing if you have children they will come in at roughly a 70 iq at their best.

>>138094123
you didn't answer the question.

>>138094678
Hi, OP here. I have never, nor ever will I, EVER support the banning of free speech.

"Next time learn to read and maybe you won't look like a tard."

>>138094487
you choose to swallow that pill because you are unintelligent. most of america doesnt feel the ned to. you believe what the media says makes a bigger shitstorm than it really does because you have a low iq and are impressionable

>>138094602
She is the leader of the country. Suppressing the nationalism of her people.

>>138094643
you have autism. who the fuck is flying any flags??? what the fuck are you talking about? OP didnt fly anything and neither did I.

Again, put very simply, if you support Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union you are a disgrace to the United States of America.

>>138095053
Here here.

>>138094905

>everyone is stupid but me

Cool story, anon. Try arguments instead of adhoms.

>>138095053
I dont suport nazi's faggot. what are you stupid?

>>138094044

>US Constitution: "all men are created equal"
>Nazism: No, all men aren't created equal.

Fair as this point may be, it isn't the US constitution which decides what is factual and what isn't. In which case the constitution can and always should be questioned.

And here is where my initial point remains:

>Supporting the enemy of a country makes you a traitor to that country.

They aren't really, honest-to-God enemies of the state; one of the two was CREATED by the same (deep) state. And the US imposed the war against the Nazis and Japan on itself from within. We can keep going back and forth for as long as you accept the mainstream narrative without questioning it.

>>138094734
I do not fly the communist flag. I fly the American flag. I've never flown the communist flag because I disavow communism and think the Soviet Union was responsible for more atrocities than any other regime in modern history.

that does not inherently make nazi germany my heroes. if you think it does, than you most likely have a retard level iq. like genuinely if you don't see the error of your logical flow im concerned for how you get behind the wheel of a car or even just survive day to day.

>>138094626
>he actually believes this
>he actually believes the Anglo only became instrument of the Hebrew during the 20th century

>>138094678
>Based on America's Free Speech Amendment, would you be allowed by the government to fly this flag without fear of imprisonment?
>>Yes.
Okay, whatever you say

>>138095047
Right, but it's still your vassal state. In the end, you decide whats disrespectful and not towards the BRD, Merkel can be gone very quickly.

>>138094854
your appeals to emotion and lack of knowledge say otherwise as my vet of a grandfather who fought in Japan and Korea doesn't care about you fly a Japanese empire flag, a Nazi flag or a commie flag as long as you don't infringe upon the right's of others he doesn't care

PS answer my question here >>138092967

>>138095260
I didn't say you did I was trying to make an overarching statement from which no deviation can be made for all on this thread.

>>138095053

>if you support Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union you are a disgrace to the United States of America.

I respect them far more than people who support the Patriot Act.

Blind patriotism isn't patriotism.

>>138095471
blatant logical non sequitir. I do not the support the patriot act either. this is why college is important. too many dumb southern cunts have no idea how to think critically

>>138095344
Maybe you should read about the real reasons the Nazis were able to get power . you might want to take a trip to 8 ch

>>138094696

>You are all pathetic.

Yea, and you and your fuckbuddy OP are miserable shills. I'd still rather be pathetic, rather than a sad excuse for human life and a waste of oxygen. Any time of the day.

>>138075561
Wait, does PWC or goldman's thick chocolate covered Sachs have a flag? What is the difference between a logo and a flag?

>>138095646

It's not a non-sequitur. I know exactly who you are, and you are not the arbiter of patriotism.

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>>138095381
when you can't see the appeal to emotion right here: Would this flag be a slap in the face to American soldiers who fought ISIS, and the families of soldiers who died fighting ISIS?
>Yes.

There are 558,000 American Veterans who fought the Nazis in World War 2, still alive today in 2017. There are four WW2 Medal of Honor recipients still living in 2017. Do you think they appreciate that you fly the flag of the enemy THEY PROTECTED YOUR FAMILY FROM?
>Fuck no.

If you served America, fighting ISIS and other Islamic terrorists overseas, would you be fucking furious that AMERICANS YOU PROTECTED WITH YOUR LIFE are marching WITH THE FLAG OF THE ENEMY and teaching their children to LOVE THE ISIS FLAG and everything it represents?

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>>138095053
you cant fool anyone.

>>138077238
National Socialism is right wing you fucking nonce.

>>138095291
So let me ask you this, do you think it would be morally right to fly an ISIS flag, 70 years from now (because WW2 happened roughly 70 years ago), and proclaim that ISIS values should be implemented in the US?

I'm not sure why you think it matters if someone is an "honest to god enemy of the state", the point is, IT'S MORALLY WRONG to fly an enemy flag, now, or 70 years from now. It is an absolute insult to the soldiers who fought against that ideology, and the soldiers who DIED fighting that ideology.

I'm never going to say freedom of speech should be banned, I'm talking about what is morally right as an American citizen.

>>138095832

>would you be fucking furious that AMERICANS YOU PROTECTED WITH YOUR LIFE are marching WITH THE FLAG OF THE ENEMY and teaching their children to LOVE THE ISIS FLAG and everything it represents?

No, because I was just doing a job. I'd be more pissed at the state department for supplying my enemies.

>>138096044
You must be the BBC. I'm Dr. NO.

>>138096059
(((Morally right))) that logical comclusion thou

>>138086551
>The Nazis based policies on the Jim Crow laws
try again