Stop using "alt-left"

>>138058558
>p-please stop calling us alt-left!!!
at least be more subtle

>>138059247
Good god you're a retard. By all means do the left's work for them.

>>138059552
>damage control
it's working kiddo, stay mad. see Bannon's thoughts on it, dumb fuck. I trust him over some shithead's first foray into politics

>>138059806
Oh, gotcha, you're too dumb to do any actual thought yourself. Well dickhole, you go ahead and allow the old enemy to rebrand itself. You let people not realize that this is the same shit we've faced before and beaten back. Let them think it's something new that they don't have any perspective on, any experience with while giving them a new title to rally around. That'll work amazingly.

I mean it's not like they've done literally everything in their power to coopt communist symbolism, creeds, colors, etc. while taking massive pains to avoid the word "communist" itself. Nah, that can't be for a reason.

Oh no. It works. Light bulbs go off above people's heads if you say, "the alt left are control freaks." It works. It's concise. It's true

>>138058558
But they're openly Communist. Calling someone (((alt-right))) lumps them in with every iteration of the right wing because it's such a poorly defined term. They don't like being called alt-left because the similarity of the name puts (((alt-right))) in their mind and they conjure up some kind of "same, but different" scenario and it plays havoc with their cognitive dissonance. We're talking about "people" who genuinely think that words mean more than actions.
If you can't see this then you need to lurk more. They don't play by any one set of rules, which is why to beat the Jew you have to become the Jew.
To show you how pointless it is to call people Communists, walk around outside with a (((Hammer and Sickle))) t-shirt on and see how no one gives a fuck. Then do the same with anything remotely associated with the right.

I follow my president

>>138058558
I like cntrl left better

Alt left includes BLM, Nation of Islam, trannies, commies, Bernie bro assassins

>>138061282
They really aren't openly communist. Well, that's not fully true: they are openly communist, but in such a way that someone who posts here on /pol/ or has taken the time to do a decent amount of research can recognize the symbols that they choose. This is not the general american population. To the general American population, they're just "antifascists" who go a little crazy from time to time, but that's ok because fuck nazis. The general public doesn't realize that their endgame is to replace all that's American with fucking communism. Calling them the Altleft just doubles down on this bit of obfuscation.

>>138058558
>Stop
THE ALT-LEFT ARE CONTROL FREAKS

>>138058558

this is right, there is no alt left.

the LEFT actually is a organized group of degenerate communist nigger worshipers that are dead set on obliterating the country.

>>138062079
Alt left is a good term for normies. If you call them communist, which they are, you sound like a right wing nut

>>138058558
Nice try alt-left lad

>>138059247

>haha idiots there's no such things as the alt right haha idiots

>trump said "alt left' hahahaha triggered!! XD XD

jesus christ i feel bad for your parents, all those wasted years only to end up with a cuck bitch of a son

>>138058558
Sure it works. If they deny to be Alt-Left, accuse them for agreeing with everything bad the left says.

>>138060671
You could say the same about the right on shit like gay marriage or the drug war

>>138061955
Alrighty leaf, I'll rephrase:
They don't want to be outed as communists. They want to be rebranded from "antifa" or more importantly, to have a branding that they can use to sweep away violent acts that they approve of but know give bad optics under. So by using this term, you're doing exactly what the left wants you to do and making your position weaker.

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>>138058558
join the fight comrade, fuck these people.

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>>138058558
You are so fucking obvious, how low are the hiring standards at shareblue that someone like you is tasked with anything more than changing their shitbuckets?

The Jew media conditioned "Alt" to be poison to normal people. Call all the insane leftists Alt-Left.

>>138064116
Yes yes, keep pretending that I'm the one that's trying to benefit the left.

Y'all are dumb as shit and have no clue how to manage a message.

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>>138064592
>Guys we really should listen to CNN and Vice on this one, they know whats best for /pol/

You actually lost GBP for this pathetic effort tonight shill.

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>>138064834
Which might matter if this were a matter of opinion. It's not. Managing a message and image is pretty straightforward and highly repeatable. The efficacy of their avoidance of the term communist combined with the "oh nos! don't call me alt left, oh what shall I ever do if you call me alt left" is telling if you weren't an idiot.

>>138058558
no no, keep using alt left

it's great, it differentiates between all the smart people (center left) and the morons (alt left, right, alt right)

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>>138058558
>>138059552
>>138060622
>>138061814
>>138062545
>>138064592
ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT ALT LEFT

>>138058558
The filth wants to be called Communists, that's why they are filthy communists. Guess you could call them Alt-Left Communists, both as a mark and a trigger.

>>138058558
There is no "alt-left"

There is only the "salt-left"

Alt left is a meme u dip. Just like alt right. It's meme warfare holy shit get with the times.

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>>138065340
For anyone listening to this cuck, that's not how branding works. Branding is high school-tier shit-slinging. There's no room for well-reasoned or technically precise arguments.

>>138058558
>Dear god you are some simpering idiots who can't help but just jump on any and every bandwagon, aren't you?

I don't know about everyone else on here, but I know I'm not.

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>>138058558
Don't say Alt-left
Say American ISIS

>>138065340
What does USACAPOC have to do with this? Or are you calling it a Psyop?

>>138058558
They are literally alt left tho

>>138061814

You could also say calling them alt left doesn't let them hide behind being antifascist. It's like BLM or patriot act, whatever.

So you aren't against nazis, so black lives don't matter, so you aren't a patriot?

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>1376 ALT LEFT
1376 ALT LEFT
>1376 ALT LEFT
1376 ALT LEFT
>1376 ALT LEFT
1376 ALT LEFT
>1376 ALT LEFT

>>138066393
It doesn't matter. They don't like the term "alt-left" and for that reason alone "alt-left" is the term we must use.

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>>138058558
Sounds like you've jumped on a (Soros funded) bandwagon yourself that is just as stupid as you think the "Alt Left" one is.

You useless human.

>>138058558
The alt-left doesn't exist because it's no alternative to the establishment, it is the establishment.
Still going to use it though because it triggers faggots.

>>138066301
I thought we are VanillaISIS?

>>138065984
You're seriously reaching now. You're better off just baselessly calling me a leftist shill.

>>138066314
A thought might actually be forming! God it's a beautiful thing.

>>138066393
Exactly.

>>138066731
You retard, that's the point, they do like the damn term. There's literally nothing but an upside to the left for the term "alt left" existing.

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>>138059552
>By all means do the left's work for them.

How do you do, fellow right wingers? Let's discuss our strategy against the left. I have some good ideas...

>>138058558
No, I'll keep saying it because it triggers the shit out of them.

>>138067291
Fuck yourself you condescending faggot.

>alt left
it's always been ctrl-left, alt-left is fucking stupid.

>>138067423
Getting mad doesn't make me any less correct.

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>>138067291

>>138067681
Alt-left is "stupid" because it's not technically precise. But normies won't get the "ctrl-left" reference, let alone appreciate its cleverness. They will understand "alt-left" as the opposite of "alt-right" (which is already widely memed) and that's what matters.

>>138067899
Being correct will not stop us from using alt-left.

Ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left
>The New Left was a broad political movement mainly in the 1960s and 1970s consisting of educators, agitators and others in Western world who sought to implement a broad range of reforms on issues such as civil rights, gay rights, abortion, gender roles, and drugs, in contrast to earlier leftist or Marxist movements that had taken a more vanguardist approach to social justice and focused mostly on labor unionization and questions of social class. Sections of the New Left rejected involvement with the labor movement and Marxism's historical theory of class struggle, although others gravitated to their own takes on established forms of Marxism such as the New Communist movement (which drew from Maoism).

It's that, or the new old left. Which is it?

>>138067681
What he said:
>>138069109
But more importantly, alt left is the term Trump used and the media is writing articles about. So we have to roll with it.

>>138068547
Again, you have an opinion and I have facts. But please, keep empowering your avowed enemy.
>>138069232
Obviously. It's what you've wanted this whole time.
>>138069361
Quite seriously "communist" is just fine.

>>138069592
I guess that works.

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>>138058558
BUCINUM administratio opticen in malis et duxit genus larper nazi cum stercore. Gaudeo autem profecta, sicut nec attentionem ceterorum turbat quasi ingens Flynn.

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>>138068547

>>138058558

Yep calling them communists is not only correct, but also effective. It's mainly conservative cucks who use the alt-left meme because they are retarded.

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THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL THE LANGUAGE

DON'T YOU PEOPLE SEE?

YOU CONTROL THE LANGUAGE, YOU CONTROL THE WORLD

WE'RE LKTERALLY IN METAL GEAR SOLID 5

PEOPLE ARE NOT BOUND BY CULTURE, NOR RACE, NOT ETHNICITY. THE MOST BASIC BINDING UNIT IS LANGUAGE

AND THE JEWS ARE TRYING TO CONTROL IT!

>>138058558
Right, and it plays into the media narrative. Nazis are the natural enemies of commies

>>138058558
communist = alt-left = violent left = antifa

They are all synonymous. No need to get autistic over it.

>>138061696
yfw those are all just communists too

>>138069916
>WE'RE LKTERALLY IN METAL GEAR SOLID 5
With a little side of Metal Gear Solid 2.

>>138058558
Go back to /leftypol/ with you alt-left tards

1. Because of indoctrination most people under 40 don't think theres anything wrong with communism or being labelled a communist.
2. Because of alt rights pairing with nazism almost everybody thinks theres something wrong with alt right or being labelled alt right.
3. Because people are binary they think the opposite side of alt right is alt left, which must also be somewhat aligned with the horrors of nazism.
4. Therefore calling someone altleft is magnitudes worse than communist.

Hope this helps

Alt-left fake news is done for

>>138058558
>COMMUNISTS
but they're not though. they're socialists at best. communism, like national socialism and anarchism and others, is dead. best korea is a farce and china is capitalist as fuck. you can call them neo communists, maybe.

>>138069900
"Communist" is a dated term that no longer has the emotional impact that it once did. Tacking on "alt-" to something has the feeling of "extreme" and "fringe" based on the way that "alt-right" has been memed. That's why "alt-left" is the correct term in the current zeitgeist.

>>138070622
they are cultural communists

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>>138070296
THIS

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>>138070622
t. cuck

>>138070751
ok then.
it's a moot point anyway. no one relevant is going to think of any group as bad as long as their stated primary purpose is fighting neo nazis. excuse me, the alt right.

>>138070296
>>138071056
In your 70% to full on communist countries that may be true, but it's definitely not true in the vast majority of the US.

>>138071565
Except that's not their purpose. Their purpose is to shut down free speech and anyone who disagrees with them. There are no unironic Nazis. This is not 1930s Germany.

>>138071646
The youth in America aren't against communism. They are taught in college it's fine. Go look at reddit.

Alt left nutcases are trying to destroy western democracy but we won't let them.

>>138067308
We can distract them with our women. While the are busy with sex and all that boring stuff we will come on 4chan and win the "battle" over how we need to structure our society.

Never give up bro!

>>138070751
Come to think of it, that does sound exactly like the kind of gray, subversive label they would cream their jeans over. Appropriation is the game, and they want a monopoly on it until whoever believes against the leftist ideology is wiped out or submissive. Go figure, CNN painting it to be what the ambiguously-defined Nazis are doing. To hell with that.
>>138070296
Got it. Sticking to the alt account.

>>138058558
when you call them communist normies don't care about commies, commies are no longer a threat
when you call them antifa, majority of people think wtf is an antifa
look at the msm they are not saying communist nor antifa
however you hear the term alt-right being used all the time
call them commies, antifa,cucks whatever on here, but on social media use alt-left, it's a buzzword it gains traction fast

and they fucking hate it

>>138072349
It's infested a handful of the bigger named schools, but the vast majority of your red state land grant universities are unchanged, and last I looked at any kind of statistics for such, only around 1/3 of the population goes to college of any kind, and that includes community college.

>>138058558
this thread is so dumb that it had to be a nigger who wrote it.

Its not rocket science faggots! Just use whe westbourough babtist church model.

1.Go bait them into assulting you.
2.Get it on video for proof.
3.Sue them for every dolla...

Nevermind.

>>138073708
>babtist

fugg :-D

Ya OP you fucking retard. Your right. 85% of the wealth in the hands of 20% of the population is prime option for any thriving society. Why don't you look into some of the new forms of government around now? Im a democratic socialist. I believe in looking at the successes and failures of both communism and capitalism and then merging the successes and dismissing the failures. But your old dumb ass only sees the white and the black because your too much of a retard to realize the bottom 80% of us are fighting over 15% of the wealth. But hey just preserve the status quo and keep the oligarchs in power. You're an ignorant fuck stick OP have a nice life under your rock being ignorant of reality.

>>138071813
>This is not 1930's Germany

The paralells between now and the Weimar Republic are hard to ignore

>>138058558
t. alt left fag

>>138059552
>By all means do the left's work for them
Don't you mean the alt left's work?

He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.

>>138073952
Specifically the torch marches and blaming certain races of people as well as the outside world for your economic hardships. Even though capitalism is what's really to blame

>>138073886
Fianly. A voice of reason. Most people on hete are blinded by emotion.

>>138073325
Nope. It's on point. I've spent the last 15 years of my professional life doing this exact same kind of stuff. You're doing exactly what they want you to. You're buying it hook, line, and sinker. Hell, look at how hard all of you want to believe I'm a leftist. The fact of the matter is that alt left as a term for the crazies allows distancing on the official side which keeps moderates from wholesale swapping sides. This is exactly the same play that was made over and over again by the ecological terror groups of the 70s and groups like PETA. They keep using this tactic because idiots like you and the others who keep trying to dismiss what I'm saying works.

>>138073886
>Ya OP you fucking retard. Your right. 85% of the wealth in the hands of 20% of the population is prime option for any thriving society. Why don't you look into some of the new forms of government around now?
You don't seem to realize that socialist policies are precisely why 20% of the population controls 85% of the wealth.

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>>138074342
Capitalism would be fine if it wasn't for Jewish Nepotism and political corruption, get out of here

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>>138069781

Doing kek's work, m8.

Thank you for the OC.

>>138074566
Socialist policies like corporate welfare? Socialism is meant to benefit the people not corporations. The reason why we are now an oligarchy is because assholes like Ronald Reagan tricked the middle class into believing shit like trickle down economics that only benefited the most wealthy.

>>138074593
Oh man now someone's even blaming the Jews. Just keep drinking the plutocratic kool aid and go to sleep

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>>138058558
Hmmm.. who should i listen to.. some random guy on 4chan or our Master of Persuasion President??

Maybe you don't have a clear memory of the election but anything Trump gives a label too is equal to a mark of death. The "Alt-Left" is about to burn.

Also we're not trying to win over 60 year old dirtbags form the cold war era, we're trying to win over the youth and as of now they don't have much of a negative outlook on "communism" thanks to marxist education infiltration.

>>138074879
You're massively ignorant of economics if you're laying blame at Reagan's feet.

I was primarily referring to a regulatory environment that is tantamount to protectionism of larger corporations but under the banner of protecting consumers, but, that's a debate for another thread friendo. I'm sorry I replied in any manner to that point. I won't further comment on this point as to not derail the thread's main topic which is the name alt left is good for the left and bad for the left's opponents.

>>138074879
I would call it more of a corporate polyarchy. Our corporations run the world now.

>>138058558
maybe if your pic was big enough to read i might have paid attention to you, you fucking retard

>>138072896
Your missing the point.

Soviets were the coolest team in Red Alert.

Soviets were a playable team in the original CoD where they murdered countless Nazis.

Think of everytime someone calls someone else "Hitler" and ask how many times someone calls another person "Stalin"

Maybe deep red states are different, but then they're the only ones who are. It's not the colleges, it's the culture.

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>>138058558
The funny thing is that if we didn't want you to use it, you'd have stuck a pepe on it and pretend it was how you called yourselves all along.

honestly guys as a lefty "alt-left" doesnt really bother me much. It doesnt mean much to me.

But feel free to keep using it. It doesn't seem to be having any effect on anything really. People saw the reality of things at that rally a few days ago. And that's that. No amount of name calling can undo what happened.

>>138075540
Yep, economic imperialism. They never even had to fire a shot. The only major politicians not in their pockets are Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein. Thank god we have Bernie.

>>138058558
Very low effort, alt-left.

>>138076016
Also Ron Paul

>>138075873
Exactly call us the alt-left. We basically are. Everyone saw that the alt-right are Nazis and skinheads. Someone has to be willing to stand up to them, and lets be honest, the mainstream left are kind of pussies.

Have lefty friends on FB getting booty bothered every time I use it. I think I'll continue, I do this all aat the same time as calling them communists.

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Oh oh oh. I have something way better. How about "alt liberal"?

>>138075627
>Maybe deep red states are different, but then they're the only ones who are. It's not the colleges, it's the culture.
Nah. Maybe in soft middle-management or food service worlds, but even in the likes of San Fransisco or New York City, the blue collars have no love of communism.

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>>138073886

How are those modern socialist states working out, comrade?

>>138062237
Also it appears nobody understands communism and it's body count. Yet Nazis they get all day.

It seems people have not yet come to define the "alt left". Are they commies or just violent lefties?

>>138077014
Violent lefties are pretty much uniformly communists.

>>138076854
Pretty well actually. Especially the Scandanavian ones. Hows capitalism working for you in lets say Brazil where do to capitalist economic imperialism the rainforest is being cut down to pay back loans from the world bank and IMF? Dont worry once all the trees are gone im sure your beloved corporations will invent a way to filter oxygen and charge you for it.

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>>138058558
m8

They're not all commies. Some are anarchists, socialists, syndicalists, liberals etc etc.

Its an umbrella term the same way alt-right is.

>>138077470
Honestly, what is a better argument against capitalism is there than that they literally destroy the planet for profit?

>>138077014
Same way no one can define the "alt right". One day it's young Trump supporters memeing a cartoon frog on the internet, the other it's neo-nazis at a rally.

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>>138076870

I can't recall the video, but Jordan Peterson was pointing out the huge body count of Communism (as usual) and added something like "but you're never taught that as much as the Nazis, and you should ask why". Would be grateful for a link to that video!

Here's a normie-friendly explanation:
https://youtu.be/nUGkKKAogDs

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>>138058558
I hope you get triggered every time, alt left faggot

>>138077714
Yes the body count of violent dictators like Stalin. How many people turned up disappeared in South American countries ruled by violent US backed dictators?