Jordan Peterson: Don't play identity politics if you want to win.

*can't, fuck

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>>138056755
i can't stand this retard. he's a disingenuous narcissist. he video about "Hitler Was More Evil Than We Thought" is pathetic. His videos on Christian theology are heretical.

and he's just plain dishonest, just like Ben Shapiro. While professing to want to save Western civilization, he simultaneously rejects every attempt to preserve the white majority in the West because "MUH IDENTITY POLITICS IS BAD FOR IMAGE".

without white people, Western civilization and liberal/libertarian society is gone. it's over. it's not like Hispanics and blacks vote 60% democrat and can be swayed with smart campaigning... no, they vote 95% democrat/anti-white. there is no coming back after losing a white majority.

these dumb fucks need to understand that. rejecting white identity politics is anti-white and this retard needs to get on the case.

>>138056755
>Trump's politi-jitsu

I cringed when i read this

>>138056755
These guys don't get it
Identity politics are literally what won trump the election. White identity united republicans far better than any other issues could have.

>>138056755
>THEY created identity politics

No. Identity politics is a natural outcome for a multi-ethnic society. By refusing to engage in it you're putting yourself at a disadvantage.

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>>138057450
Actually cringed, or just thought "i can write how I cringed at this instead of actually forming a coherent counter-argument"?

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>>138056755
Jordan Peterson is an honorable person who has helped me orient my life, but he has said that we should be grateful for Jewish dominance because they're smarter than us, and that most of his friends are Jews. He's like 300 years old and faps to tragedy porn about the nazis and communists daily so I doubt he's gonna change his mind on this. The notion that identity politics was created recently should be laughed at. Segregation and slavery are identity politics. Jim crow and anti-miscegnation laws too. Even repelling a foreign invasion is identity politics. WWII propaganda on all sides was prominently "identitarian". The tribe, the model from which the nation emerged, is based on kinship and common ancestry. We won at "identity politics" before, dominated actually, and for a great amount of time. I will continue to advocate for identity politics.

>>138056755
He knows the game and its rules. You gotta be smart about it. But edgy kiddos aren't smart

>>138057887
Yep. Identity politics is inevitable and ignoring it will cause you to be crushed by it.

>>138057483
What possibly makes you think that? Trump didn't once, ever, bring up 'white identity', or group his opponents into racial groups (national groups maybe). This is just some post hoc bullshit.
>Larpers are trying to make white identity a thing, and Trump won the last election, so it must have been caused by trump winning the election.
The point is not whether white pride is good or bad, the point is that I want to 'win' the cultural war against these fucking scum leftists as much as you, and playing their game plays right into their hands.

>>138057328
>His videos on Christian theology are heretical.
In what way? I honestly wanted to watch some, but only watched his vids on sociological issues

>>138057483
No he won with the western identity. Black people voted for Trump, Mexicans voted for Trump. Holy shit how out of touch are you guys? Trump won because he wanted to put America first and drain the swamp of our shitty politician's.

>>138059565
closed borders, a wall and muslim deportation is identity politics. the problem with immigration isn't legality, it's the fact that they're even coming here to begin with. if you think white nationalists and alt-righters voted trump for any OTHER reason than the fact that his policies aligned with identity politics, you're delusional. obviously Trump isn't gonna boast about that publicly, but he exploited that vein of thinking.

>>138059782
Hahahahahahahahaha okay buddy. Go look at voting patterns for the election you fucking retard

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>>138059782
>Black people voted for Trump, Mexicans voted for Trump
just shut the fuck up

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>>138057887
It is definitely not "natural", at least on an individual level. Put a group of multi-ethnic kids in school together and they don't start fucking genociding the minorities. they don't even think about skin color past asking "why is their skin different color" until adults 'educate' them.

>>138059525
He's not even playing the same game as us. His stated goal is to reduce suffering. He has more in common with Mouthy Buddha than Jared Taylor.

>>138059955
You're the worst kind of American. The American who thinks they know everything about anything they feel strongly about.

>>138059782
>Holy shit how out of touch are you guys?
Lol

>>138059864
>. if you think white nationalists and alt-righters voted trump for any OTHER reason than the fact that his policies aligned with identity politics, you're delusional.
this

>>138059525
Sadly seems to be true.

>>138057328
>he video about "Hitler Was More Evil Than We Thought" is pathetic
It literally contradicts the narrative by playing it out, why would Hitler spend dwindling resources to kill jews? The answer is simple either he's an evil idiot or he didn't, JPB is doing everything but naming the jew

>>138060420
kys faggot

>>138060196
Absolute bullshit. Kids self segregate hard as fuck. There is the black table, the ese table and the asian table. I went to a shit ton of multiculti schools i know how it goes, faggot

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>>138060495
What about the black people who voted for him.
How do you account for BigJoe?

You can't ignore it when your media overlords say it.

>>138060196
Even babies are racist you bluepilled mongoloid
"Infants aged 15 months normally choose a playmate who is perceived as being fair, sharing toys equally for example, regardless of that person’s colour.

But if a baby sees a person of the same race as them unfairly distribute toys in a way that benefits another of their race then the baby wants to be playmates with that person.

Babies are also more likely to help those of their ethnicity, an effect known as in-group bias, where people favour those with the same characteristics."
>>138060420
Typical leaf whining about Americans rather than contesting the point of the American.

>>138060695
you don't seriously think peterson is redpilled on the jewish question? he's an alt-lite cuckservative at best. promoting the West without promoting white majority is lunacy. he'll avoid the topic for fear of racism.... or he's just really believes the shit he spews.

>>138056755
On the contrary, play divide and conquer to the max if you want to win.

>>138060495
>He actually thinks that 63 million voting Americans are all white nationalists

>>138060759
Your tablescraps from a few key minorities doesnt mean shit compared to the aggregate. Your gaslighting dont work here

>>138059864
Identity politics is making things about identity that shouldn't be. Those issues you mentioned are about protecting our borders and our people, the LEFT is making them about identity, and you've accepted that frame it seems.

>>138060420
> Begin to respond-
> Check Flag
> Relax. Smile. Laugh.

A fucking leaf.

>>138057328
You guys are just as obsessed with race as the SJW types. Y'all all deluded yourselves into thinking your right, and come here everyday to reaffirm your bias, and it's utterly pathetic. I'll never understand why you, and the social justice losers are obsessed with race and identity. Like do you seriously believe that we established western civilization because we have the right skin tone? Or could it be the ideas we had developed through certain experiences? Probably the latter. And the best part about everything that's happened is you haven't even helped us, you've now confirmed to the normie sheeple that there still are racist white people and they WILL generalize that to all of us. Hope your autistic larping was worth damning all of us in the process, fckn sheep.

>>138060990
>he doesnt think voting for the guy who called mexicans rapists and wants to build a wall isnt implicit white nationalism

>>138059989
>>138059955
AFAIK, he got a higher percentage of both groups than any previous republican

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>>138060759
Also

>>138056755
He acknowledges Europe is done for. Acknowledges tribalism is normal and instinctual. Makes you think. Most of his friends are Jewish.He hates nationalism. Makes you think.

>>138060695
Peterson loves Jews. He's a race traitor to the core.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nKL3MsKRtJo

>>138056755
>a crypto-Jew politely asks the goyim to forswear identity politics, which have enriched his tribe so much over the years
Hypocrite.

>>138056755

In a multiracial society, all politics is identity politics. Idealists like Peterson are deluded.

>>138061078
>western civilization because we have the right skin tone
You are ignorant as fuck if you unironically think race and the history of our civilization is that shallow. Jesus FUCKING Christ read a fucking book, just ONE book for once in your life fucking God damn you are a bluepilled fucking retard.

>>138061078
>skin tone
fuck off

>>138061169
So he went from a few crumbs to a few crumbs more? What even is your point?

>>138059782
Western identify is white identity. Some black people and wetbacks (very few in fact) are just smart enough to realize leaving whitey in charge is in their best interest.

>>138060999
Well then how do you account for his victory I the elections, and that far and wide black people celebrated his rise into office? Or were you at those depressing Starbucks events crying into your effeminate elbows all day?
Your head is so far up your ass you can't tell who's a Trump voter and who isnt. Not without race and skin color. Which is racist and biased.

Then again I expected too much when I expected intelligence from shitposters.

>>138060990
Exactly. Alt-right larping faggots want to make this about them and their 'movement', and all it's doing is making life harder for Trump.

>>138059782

Trump won the electoral college vote because of white people in the midwest you utter retard. Even Trump's civic nationalist rhetoric was implicitly white.

You need to fuck off to /r/the_donald to jerk off to based black guys in maga hats. Retards like you don't belong here.

>>138056755
I don't see how you win against a pack being a lone wolf

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>>138060990
>Being this young

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>>138056755
>taking political advice from a radical centrist cuck
it's like you faggots wanna loose

>>138060886

yeah but people don't want to feel racist even if they are. What they want is a politicon to wrap it in something else.

Do white people not want their country flooded with mexicans? ofcourse not, but they don't want you to say mexicans are awful because genetically native americans are dumber and more violent than white people.

what they want is to be told these people are criminals because they broke our laws to get into this country, so they need to be removed.

Trump did that, hence he won the election

>>138061078
>F-fuckin sheep going against the biggest artificial taboo of our time! My wife's black son is just as smart as my wife's white son!

>>138061018
>>138061078
>LEFTISTS ARE THE REAL RACISTS
The idea that the left is identitarian is not even true. The left is all about erasing racial identity and looking past biological boundaries (race and gender). The fact that the left focuses partially on race is because they perceive society to be inherently un-equal for non-whites, so they focus on non-white struggles against a system "run by white racists" -- but their model world is completely non-racial.

What you need to understand is that Western society and civilization in general can only survive if whites maintain control. That's an objective fact. If you want the West to survive, you better damn promote a white majority. If you don't, you're ANTI-west.

>>138061121
>says trump called mexicans racists and wants to be taken seriously

>>138061508
>Which is racist and biased
A fucking leaf

>>138061541
Youre right being a minority is exactly what the majority white population had in mind when they voted for the guy whose main point was to build a wall and deport them all.

>>138061169
Which was still tiny as fuck and not nearly enough to win. We're talking low single digit gains vs. Romney.

Whites need to practice some ethnic solidarity, or we aren't going to have nations anymore. Western civilization is a product of the European man and if he becomes a minority it will be destroyed.

>>138061627
But it's not about being a lone wolf anon. It's about being individual and self sufficient but also about being a unified people.

>>138061301
Meh. Not a jew, and the jewish issue is something i haven't been redpilled on yet. Doesn't seem like a crazy idea. But it's also not 100% relevant to the point.

>>138061790
>a fucking LEAF
There it is. Shill is out of ammo and all it took was one fact check on Google. GG ezpz

>>138057328
>While professing to want to save Western civilization, he simultaneously rejects every attempt to preserve the white majority in the West
you're just as braindead as neo commies I swear

>>138061989
Then you dont know shit. If you havent read Culture of Critique you shouldnt ever post here again. Youre like a blind retard grasping at the dark if you dont actually have information and knowledge with you.

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>>138061681
>radical
>centrist

>>138060961
He names the author of 200 years together alot and dodges the question if he's read it by saying there's no translation
He's not prepared to lose everything he's built is all and it's funny a memeflag is calling someone else a coward, if you watch the video you have to pick is he a stupid idiot or is the narrative a lie? It's pretty fucking obvious and idiot couldn't pull off what Hitler did, I don't give a fuck if he's alt-light he's valuable and far better for transition than most of the altlight skeptic types

>>138061278
>"Anti-semite? Most of my friends are jews"
You can have black friends and still think they should be deported, you would say the same you don't say you want the jews gassed in public with a camera on you do you?

>>138062142
I'll check it out, but again it doesn't seem entirely relevant to this topic.

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>>138061698
I don't have any issue with that.
>>138061813
>>138061989
Watch Kevin McDonald's interview on Red Ice, "The Importance of Understanding the JQ" and don't post again until you have.

>>138062117
>niggers and spics who vote 95% socialist will preserve white civilization
Fuck off kraut

>>138059782
>>138061169
Thinking blacks voted for him. they know the welfare is keeping them on the leash.

>>138056755
peterson is a clinical psych professor not a nationbuilder or scholar of civilization
who fucking cares what he think
niggers muslims and jees will die. period

we dont need a frame. we have rifles.

>>138062229
I didn't say he's not valuable, he's obviously a driving force. I also don't think he's a coward, going public on racial issues or the kike obviously entails real life dangers. He's good at what he does.. still, don't gobble it all up without a grain of salt.

>>138057328
If I want to tell my opponent their race argument is non-sequitur, I have to abandon my race arguments. Really fuckin plain and simple.

>>138062229
He's literally never said anything negative about Jews and goes out of his way to say "Judaeo-Christian" rather than just "Christian". Don't be so eager to hope.

>>138062117
>muh based 10% of minorities that don't hate us will save us

You need to go examine some statistics about these people's opinions very closely and then come back when you aren't a massive retard.

>>138056755
>he's saying if you get tricked into making this about race like the left is doing, you WILL LOSE
Stfu with this meme. White people are being all over the world by non-whites. We are the only ones standing up for these victims. That is the entire purpose of this cause. Maybe you came he because of "muh feminists" or some shit like that, but most are here because of injustice against white people----even if they're unable to articulate as clearly as I do.

>>138056755
Boomers need to die already. Or we can speed the process up. I can't wait to cut their pensions and starve them slowly to death.

>>138063172
not gonna happen. there will be xivil war or they will put you in a workcamp to pay for their pensions

we dont get to starve them. its kill or be killed

>>138059638
You're responding to a retard, he just screams out his kneejerk reactions whenever his chest gets tight.

Watch them for yourself, they are just an evolutionary study of the truth of the Bible.

>>138057483
No it's fucking not. Western values! Capitalism! Closed borders! White mfers didn't get him elected alone you pissant. Being white is fucking nothing. Being morally superior and truthful is everything

>>138063424
Spooks and other boomer and gen x cancer will surely try to shut us all down for shekels, but at this point doing so will only seal their fate and awaken a giant.

>>138056755

Why is everyone treating this guy as if he's some sort of prophet with sacred knowledge?

>don't care about race goyim

>>138057328
I don't think he understands that it is 'that' bad yet. He probably thinks the way to win is by having a centre-right position which values individualism and personal responsibility as opposed.to the collectivism of the left. He thinks that all problems can be solved if we take this individualist approach and not fall victim to some identity politics approach. His argument makes sense from one view, but when you take into account the massive demographic changes we are going through then this approach will not be enough since non-whites and white liberal cucks will one day outnumber us demographically and normal white conservatives will never be able to win an election ever again.

It's funny because majority of his followers are actually white identitarians or collectivist minded, and what he appears to be explaining is the degeneracy of the collectivism of the left instifling free speech and then atteibuting what he thinks of this to collectivism of the right which he thinks is just as bad, if not just as bad as Nazi Germany.

>>138063788
their plan was to flood us. it would have worked.

at this rate though the u.s. might actually collapse without whites being a minority so long as we can deport taconiggers

gunning them down at that point is easy. theb we can invade europe

if i am gonna get shot in a war i demand a tall high iq blonde virgin

>>138057328
>he simultaneously rejects every attempt to preserve the white majority
he's said that explicitly that there is absolutely nothing wrong with opposing immigration

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>>138056755
The Libertarian Right is the only political right-leaning choice that can survive the lefts onslaught.

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>>138056755
JBP and his friends got their asses handed to them in the academic arena for the past 40 years.
He can barely lecture in his own university,
he is banned from campuses regularly,
he failed to stop legislation that will put him in jail for saying the wrong pronouns.


But sure, lets listen to him about how to win.
Once we are all fucked like he was, we can start our own patreons and pass the same 5 bucks around.

>>138057328
To be fair, he does believe that a country is created by its people, and if a country is anti-Western, then they probably shouldn't be allowed in. Besides, you can't pretend the left isn't white, too. If all the minorities were gone, they'd just be enticed again to let them in because they'd be removed from their shit culture.

>>138064108
he is a university professor. OF COURSE he doesnt realize how bad it is. classic boomer. if he doesnt shut his fucking mouth about race someone ia going to curb atomp his stupid skull for ignoring our suffering

>>138056755
I don't think so. Identity politics is the only force in a multicultural society. If they keep doing it, and we're the only group that doesn't, they're going to beat us every time.

>>138064554
I wish people could understand this. It's so simple.

>>138064474
spot on

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>>138064919
Sadly the adoration and neetbucks of thousands of losers will prevent any sort of introspection.
In fact I bet he feels like a fucking winner.

>>138056755
>This is why Charlottesville was an epic fuckup by the alt right,

Alt right is a controlled opposition group that serves as a strawman for Trump Supporters, they've been sculpting the silhouette of the alt-right as Nazis for months now in an effort of taking us out.

We do not attend rallies, we have jobs.

>>138056755
>YOU LOSE
>THEY WIN
Who is (You) and who is ((They))?

This is how we play the game. We are BOTH and we aim to lose. You think I'm gone if the whole world sides with Alt-Left? No, then we are Alt-Left, since that's where the power of identity is. We just continue doing what we always do under different mask. As long as the power belongs to the people, it belongs into our hands.

>>138061813
> also about being a unified people.
What unified people? Every time we try to Unify the media literally loses their minds. No, I think /pol/colony is the right course of action, our enemies shit their pants anytime, even an indication it's happening appears

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>>138064554
Not really. When the commies run around drilling it into the minds of everyone that whites are evil racist Nazis the last thing you want to do is go out en masse and CONFIRM everything they are saying.

>see: Charlottesville

When they bait you into playing their game all you do is confirm. their rhetoric and you give them A LOT of political munitions.

Just look at what has all happened after Charlottesville, loads of statues are being removed, and now they are trying to rewrite everything including street names and they are fucking getting away with it.

>>138064474
>Haha one guy couldn't stop the entire elite communist cabal all by himself what a LOSER haha

kys

>>138065563
boomer mindset in a nutshell.

>>138065855
your clever orwell quote is 30 iq points above 70% of the country

the only way theyll understand is with a bullet in their head

lets avail them sooner rather than later

>>138066089
>JBP and his friends
literally the 4th word
of course a fucking leaf is being fucking retarded on 4chan

Identity politics is the way to lose and the thing that lost the dems the election. It devolves into purity spiraling and an autistic fixation on race/gender/other bullshit that screams mentally ill basement dweller. Trump won because more niggers and spics voted for him than generally vote for Republicans. Unironic nazis/white suprematists are our version of the left's whiny genderqueerkin SJWs that drove the masses away.

The way to beat the left is to make them follow their own rules off a cliff. Trump realizes this which is why he threw in that bit about Washington and Jefferson being slaveowners. All it takes is one PoC to say "yeah we should tear down their statue" and the left has no choice but to follow them, otherwise they get accused of using their white privilege to be selectively racist. Like, I've pretty much gotten every SJW I know to reluctantly agree that those monuments should be torn down by using that logic. Now you're gonna have mainstream leftists unironically trying to outvirtue signal each other by wanting to destroy everything dealing with the founding fathers. That's a bigger red pill for mainstream people than anything the left did during the 2016 election.

The answer isn't to be all "two can play that game" and start tearing down their Lenin statues and shit, but to make fun of their Lenin statues while pointing out that you don't believe in tearing down statues whose history you disagree with because that's prehistoric tribal tier bullshit where every new ooga booga that conquered the land purged reminders of everything that came before him.

The only way Trump can lose is if we outchimp the left by publically being 1488. The best thing we can do is publicly beat Spencer half to death to show that we are fed up with his larping shit that only serves the leftists.

>>138066813
the only way to win is with bullets

you do not "win" if a murderer temporarily fails to kick down your door

Nazi larping is a loser. We've been cucked by the stormfags. Trying to salvage the reputation of the most hated person and movement of our time is a ridiculous task.

Half the nazi larping here is Sharia Blue trhying to make us look like tools. Half of it is /pol/ larpers and stormfags.

What do we do about the cuckservative closed-mindedness problem? The amount of deafness to further right positions in this thread is ridiculous. It's like an idea catches these peoples' fancy for a week and they become completely devoted to it, or they literally can't question values they were infected with as children such as racial equality.

>>138057328
he is a shitlib, can you blame him? he most likely lives in a 90%+ white nieghborhood and the only brown people he sees are the okay ones. you can't blame him for wanting to see the good in people

>>138057328
>i can't stand this retard
Okay little impotent cuck who achieved nothing in his life and who has less than 100 IQ.

You sure are worth listening to over him.

>>138066808
>and his friends

Which are who exactly? The only people who spoke to the Canadian government about the bill were JBP and some lawyer. Which of his friends tried to stop him from getting banned by commies?

>>138067161

Yeah I keep forgetting how much Dylan Roof did for the right.

>>138056755
>Don't play identity politics if you want to win
Best goy. If you work together with other White people White people lose.

>>138067161
This. Violent revolution is the only answer, until that the left will continue to destroy everything and everyone who even mildly opposes them.

>>138064474
your post barely even makes sense. he's fighting a giant war by himself and he hasn't won it yet so don't bother helping him?

thanks for the pic though, saved

>Dems have been electorally annihilated across the country since adopting identity politics as central to their platform.
>WE NEED TO ADOPT THEIR TACTICS TO BEAT THEM
He's not wrong. Why would you adopt their tactics when those tactics are the reason they're at the lowest office-holding in a century?

>>138067161
>t. ISIS Mashallah

>>138061078

Culture is related to average IQ, whites have higher average IQ, there's also genetic similarities playing a huge role on social behavior and racial preferences. You are simply delusional because you would like the world to be something it isn't.

>>138057483
Trumps disdain of identity politics is what won the election. He never made it about identity groups he made it about america.
And that is the only way the left will be beaten if it is about america.

>>138067705
how about 10 million dylan roofs? we have more than that

are they gonna arrest more than 10 million white males with guns?

grow up. waiting for your enemy to kill you is not a solution. nor is counting on hin to be honorable. weve waitrd 70 years for it. time to shoot

they threw acid on is in the rally. a few people lost theor vision and some have brain damage.

they will die

>>138067940
europe needs to start soon. you have zero police force and no penalties. just go already

>>138067694
The details of what's happening right now its not the point. What's happening right now the result of 40 years of his entire ideology getting fucked in the ass.
When I say "his friends" are the entirety of academia that shared his views. Views used to be the dominant position in academia.
But now he cannot step foot on most colleges. And his solution is to "keep doing what we are doing boys! we are righteous and we will win in the end".

He is either controlled opposition, a moron or someone that simply gave up and would rather "lose with dignity" like all the cuckservative boomers that don't really care about the future of their children.

>>138057887
>identity politics is inevitable so we must pander to it.
I agree in the fact that it is inevitable and groups must be heard (democracy 101) but the preservation of democratic values should be first by all for all.

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WHITE IDENTITY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE

THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT BY AND DEVELOPMENT BY WHITE PEOPLE. WE ARE THE CITIZENRY. WE ARE THE TAX PAYERS. FUCK OFF

>>138056755
>He's not saying "don't work together", he's saying if you get tricked into making this about race like the left is doing, you WILL LOSE. THEY created that frame, they created that game, and the game is rigged. THEY created identity politics rules SO THEY COULD WIN
I think you mean it's the only way to win. A fasces will defeat a bunch of individual sticks any day of the week. Besides, you aren't going to stop the niggers and spics from playing identity politics, so all you're doing is denying whites an equal playing field.

>>138069042
>you WILL LOSE
yea because individualists have been winning right?
getting blacklisted left and right is what winning looks like.

>>138067940
>Violent revolution is the only answer,

No, it isn't.../pol/colony is the answer its time to get out of your 6k Sqft commie block that houses 20 people. Imagine the amount of land and resources those 20 people could acquire if they stopped working for the state and worked for each other.

>>138066813
dems got fucked by identity politics because america is still 63% non-hispanic white

if we play identity politics in a reasonable way, like white nationalism, things can get really ugly for them, for white turnout is still very low

>>138056755
>He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
>He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
>He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
>He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
>He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
>He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.
>He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.

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>>138066813
>Identity politics is the way to lose and the thing that lost the dems the election.
(((elections))) are nothing more than a tool to pacify the goyim. Trump won but almost nothing changes because if he goes too far off script the cia niggers will just bust his melon.

>>138069261
That's my point, individualists can't win in a multicultural society, every other group is going to be voting in a collective interest.

>>138068502

You don't have 10 million Dylan Roofs. If you ever went outside you'd realize that the vast majority of people on your side just want to live in a ~1990s version of America that isn't cucked to shit by leftists instead of larping "muh race war" like you unstable retards. The closest you had to "10 million Dylan Roofs" was in 1860 and they still got their shit handed to them.

Niggers all over the world got people rights by playing up the fact that they were nonviolent dindu nuffins and making the people opposing them seem like unstable psychos. We won because peaceful non-nazi Trump supporters got violently attacked in Chicago, San Jose, other places and the left effectively condoned their side pelting women with eggs and kids getting pepper sprayed. We don't need the leftists to be honorable, we need them to be dishonorable and keep chimping out so we can fucking lock them up and have the public on our side. These are things that will let us win in the real world not your KKK minecraft fantasy.

None of you Dylan Roof faggots did a god damn thing to "take the country back" until Trump, who actually knows what the fuck he was doing, showed up. The most you do is shoot up a school or some stupid shit that forces the police to terminate you with extreme prejudice and have everyone else hide underground.

>>138069584
he is going pretty far off script

did you see the wikileaks rmails from hilldawg? she said word for word "if he wins... we will hang"

they dont have perfect control of the deep state. menaquinone was banned when he revealed the cia director to be a fat incel

>>138066813
>Identity politics is the way to lose and the thing that lost the dems the election.
Dems have been winning for half a century. They only started losing because they pushed it HARD and whites woke up.

>>138069294
dems got fucked because they took certain states for granted while Trump played the electoral college with surgical precision.

This narrative of identity politics being unpopular falls flat on the face of the large loss by Trump in the popular vote.
If I was a conspiracy theorist I would say the "voter fraud" narrative was spun to stop conservatives from realizing this fact.

No you retards, 3 million people wouldn't be able to vote illegally in the third world without a huge scandal (like Venezuela).
They most certainly WON'T get away with it in a first world country.

>>138069680
yea sorry I didn't mean to quote you on that post.

>>138057328
>video about "Hitler Was More Evil Than We Thought" is pathetic.
Yes, but not for any "HURR DURR I LOVE HITLER GAS THE KIKES 14/88" retard reason.

I'm not a nazi LARPer or anything, but I always disregard people when they just right off the bat say "HURRR DURR HITLER IS EBILLL". There is a lot to understand there behind his motivations, it's not just black-and-white Star Wars Light-Side-Versus-Dark-Side bullshit. In general, I just disregard anyone who uses the word "evil" as a way to end all arguments and avoid scrutiny. It's just manipulative.

>His videos on Christian theology are heretical.
Yes. I don't know why he even uses Christian teachings and Bible verses when he doesn't believe in it. There are plenty of great non-religious things he can use to illustrate his points philosophically. Using Christian theology to do so just makes it look like he's trying to be "deep".

I like a lot of what he talks about though

>>138056755
>THEY created that frame

It's not a frame, it's just fucking reality. Alt Right wins by calling the "i don't see race" bluff for what it is. When your enemy is wielding a weapon you better stay competitive if you want to fight them.

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>>138064495
>they'd just be enticed again to let them in because they'd be removed from their shit culture.
Which is why free range democracy is retarded. Not everyone deserves the right nor should vote.

>>138070232
He's mostly just trying to bridge the gap so to speak, offer a solution to the "god is dead" thing. Like Nietzsche said, once it was gone, ideology follows. If we could reconcile religion is a secular/metaphorical way we might avoid a lot of problems.

>>138069584

A lot changed. Without Trump we'd be a lot closer to Sweden. Before he came along the concept of open borders and the TPP was embraced by both parties.

Trump was merely the first step. The next step is to purge congress of cuckservatives. Through elections. The problem here is most people on here are losers and the concept of a long grueling piecemeal strategy is foreign to them. It's all "Day of the rope". Not decade of the rope. Just go outside, do your 1488 act and 5 minutes later you get everything you want. That's why they all larp about "muh 7 Aryan kids with blonde 10/10 waifu" without ever actually leaving their basements to follow through with it.

>>138069971
>he is going pretty far off script
nah, that is just to keep up the illusion of (((democracy)))

>>138069984

Dems have been winning because 90% of the right was cucking for them and 10% was so autistically far right that they were used to paint the other 90% as a laughingstock and make them cuck harder a la Jeb. Basically the dems were doing what Trump is doing now.

Anyone larping for a Civil War will get their shit utterly pushed in by everyone else. The trick is to have Dems be the ones doing it. Let the cuckifornia secession and "erase the founding fathers from history" gain steam.

>>138070755
no, i dont think YOU understand

if whites literally went outsidr RIGHT NOW and every white male killed a single brown person by shooting them in the hea this would all be fixed in a half hour, AND the cuckservatives could do nothing about it. hell, the cuckswrvatives might get shot next

Has he ever talked about The Matrix films?

https://mobile.twitter.com/dmarble1
Plzzzzzz

People plz troll this nigger via Twitter. He can't block us all. He needs to be put in his place.

>>138070053

We've had hundreds of people arrested for voter fraud and no one gives a shit. There are so many soft ways to go about it that no one cares for. The massive dem chimpout over voter ID (something 600 million Pajeets are competent enough to have but not uncle Tyrone and aunt Consuela) is proof enough

Also having 10 million cuckifornians virtue signal means nothing when their Trump counterparts didn't turn out since their votes wouldn't matter at all.

>>138059565
Because all through the election it was
>BLM
>check your white privilege
>white=racism
>refugees welcome
>YOURE RACIST.
Whites had enough

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508075/Dead-Mule-Canyon-Colorado-ghost-town-sale-220-000.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508075/Dead-Mule-Canyon-Colorado-ghost-town-sale-220-000.html

/pol/colony

>>138071442
That, however, is not going to happen because autspertards cannot resist larping as Confaggerates or Naztards. It's too tasty to cosplay.

That will never be fixed. It's an embedded weakness not even worth discussing changing.

I hate niggers but I don't play dressup. Nazfederate autspergers are not the useful autists, they are the retarded autists and they are the reverse of effective.

The movement will have to work around them. Most humans are stupid. Ideology can never change that. What remains is for the smart to manipulate lesser beings.

>>138071442

And if all the niggers went outside on command and killed all da whites then all the whites would be dead and nothing could be done about it.

I understand perfectly. I just don't give a shit about all the IFs in your autistic fantasy world, I live in the real one where you can't attack move all the white people. In the real world most white people would just turn around and shoot you and pretend it never happened.

>>138071405
>Dems have been winning because 90% of the right was cucking for them and 10% was so autistically far right that they were used to paint the other 90% as a laughingstock and make them cuck harder a la Jeb
And that changed how? 90% of the right is still cucking for them. Trump's literally the only non-cuck in the big positions right now.

Face it, Dems won because they picked up identity politics by offering gibs for nigger and spic votes.

>>138072295
>6% of the adult male population killing 75%
You're fucking retarded

>>138072106
>cannot resist larping as Confaggerates or Naztards
>using a flag based off the nazi flag

>>138057887
The problem is that our system of engaging in idpol is rigged by the left.

>>138070053
nuh-uh, dear anon

white turnout in rural areas shot through the roof like never seen before because trump played the economic nationalism card and because he doesn't act like a overeducated, self-centered, arrogant elitist like most politicians, he tells it like it is

this rural vote made him garner much more votes than any republican in rust belt states, florida, north carolina and georgia because those states have big cities filled with niggers and latinos who turned out big time for obongo, while at the same time being states that have huge white countryside areas in which whites barely turn out at all. trump tapped into this like no republican has EVER – EVER – done before

for reference, just look at the numbers per state and also that fancy ass map showing huge numbers of rural turnout never seen before that the jew york times did right after election night

>>138061078
Give me one example of blacks/latinos building a high level society like western europeans and east asians have.
I'll wait but I won't hold my breath.
>muh based black guys just need to love the constitution then Detroit will become a paradise!
kys

>>138072752
>Give me one example of blacks/latinos building a high level society like western europeans and east Asians have.

We could do it again....We don't have to sit in the atrophied ruins of what our fathers built

>>138072355

>>138072355

It's much less expedient for the right to cuck for them. The ones that keep doing it need to be replaced. They can't hold off indefinitely if the Republican party leaves them. They'll either get voted out or be forced to become Democrats.

Go after them, organize against them, call them out on their bullshit, support candidates like Nehlen and other fuckers, push for reforms that yield positive results in terms of wealth generated or crime lowered and force more and more people to get on our side. Push for attacking big tech via antitrust regulations/utility regulating. There's a ton of work to be done. But it's obviously too much work for the nazi larpers who only have 30 minutes for Day of The Rope until they have to get back to pleasing their waifus.

>>138072446

If they all go outside at once and have the element of surprise

Of course it's retarded, it's a send up of your equally retarded fantasy that you take seriously due to your lack of contact with the real world.

>>138070053
also, I forgot, believe it or not: in America, most niggers and spics live canned in urban areas in which there are very few polling stations

niggers also almost never get an id card

do the math

commies cry wolf that requiring id is voter suppession for niggers

and illegal spics go to the polls unfettered

there you go

besides, this isn't even close to the greatest problem: white displacement

in 1970, there were 9 million spics in america, while nowadays the number is roughly 70 million with some more illegal spics to count... aaaand guess what? they vote democrat in a 8-2 proportion, while niggers vote 9-1

ethnostate NOW

>>138073069
Could do what again? You've never fucking done it before. Your fathers built mud houses and spears. You are leeches on the western world and contribute nothing but sports ball players and (((rap))) music.

>>138072106
every white male goes outside and obeya traffic laws and firearm lawa concerning proper use

whites can follow directions

we only need 5% of white males to empty a couple of clips and the cozntry will be fixed

nothing roleplaying about it. nothibg inconvenient. people spend more time on taxes every year than it would take to gun down 3 brown people

>>138072295
see above

white males spend.more time doing taxes

eliminating browns would be pitifully easy

>>138056755
The alt-right are viewing the same picture as the marxists, with just slightly different angles. Radical centrism is the future.

>>138073232
>It's much less expedient for the right to cuck for them. The ones that keep doing it need to be replaced.
That goes without saying, I would be surprised if Trump didn't have a nice big list of cucky republicans he wants out.

>There's a ton of work to be done. But it's obviously too much work for the nazi larpers
You have no fucking idea. I'll put it this way, the main political analyst of the alt-right is way ahead of you.

>>138073659
I'm white you moron
I'm wondering why you people are so concerned with propping up a dead society that favors nigger tranny otherkins over the average person?

>>138056755
>His videos on Christian theology are heretical
Oh no

>>138073459
I didn't know Australia had a right wing.

>>138074173
We aren't trying to prop up that society, were trying to build a new one. One without niggers, trannies, otherkins.

>>138074356
>were trying to build a new one.
Where?

>>138064495
The left is only like 25% of whites, while well over half of whites voted Trump

>>138074560
White Afghanistan where white sharia is law.

>>138072739
As you say. Trump won because he focused his message on the concern of a pretty specific demographic that inhabited pretty specific states that granted him the victory that mattered (electoral college).

All I'm saying is, that it was not the dems love of minorities that cost them the election, it was their disinterest of white people. It was not a newfound generalized hatred of identity politics. But neglect of pivotal states.

>>138074691
So nowhere
That's a problem

>>138074872
Look we've identified the problem

>>138056755
Yes, good Goy. Don't fall for that silly Nazi charade. Collectivism has never helped anyone. Ignore your people and better yourself, so you can be worthwhile asset to Mr. Goldstein and get ahead in life.

>>138074872
Cascadia, Appalachians, the NE. White Afghanistan just stands for the last stand of the white man where no one else will ever be able to conquer. It doesn't really matter where, just that we need anywhere.

>>138056755
>if you kill your enemies, they win
Peterson is an idiot.

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>>138061496
>one third of the hispanic vote
>crumbs

>>138061078
>hurr durr you're just as bad as the SJWs
It's time to pick sides faggot. Moderates will be mowed down.

>>138075092
>It doesn't really matter where
Yeah lets just stay peppered around the country autistically fixing what niggers break, until there isn't enough of us to do it anymore

>>138075456
One day there will be a white homeland designated. Dont worry.

>>138059782
>Black people voted for Trump, Mexicans voted for Trump
Look at all this delusion. Blacks and spics voted overwhelmingly, with supermajorities, for Shitlary.
I really hope you murricans get genocided because you deserve it. Fucking dupes.

Does /pol/ ever think that individuals could be united in their individualism? Honestly for the longest time I think that is what made America so special, it acknowledged the individual as an important element and through that mutual understanding people could be united. It's kind of ironic, the best way to unite people isn't to force them into groups but to just let them be what they are an individual. I think the real problem is young people have been taught the individual is evil and the collective is more important. And many young people haven't suffered much from the shear power of the collective against the individual due to all of our modern amenities causing them to take for granted all the individual advantages we are given.

>>138074766
The dem love of shitskins is what has produced a hard core Republican base that will never vote Dem in their life

People cucking out on racial issues is what has produced this modern problems. In the US they amnestied millions of spics as a cuck compromise to illegals.

In Canada they bring in well over 1 million a year

Our civilizations were built with white identity politics, not some cucked libertarian bullshit

>>138075356

De cine, ba legionar paradit ?

>>138075555
>One day there will be a white homeland designated.
Give up 3 and a half continents for one homeland

No thanks

>>138075950
You don't eat your whole cake in one bite. One piece at a time anon. We regroup in White Afghanistan where the while man takes his last stand. Once that is secure we can go about reclaiming the world that was once ours.

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>>138056755

He's an intelligent guy, but as far as politics go, he's pretty much clueless.

>>movie celebrates force
>>that's fascism


Holy shit. He seriously sometimes sounds like an uneducated sophmore.

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>>138056755
As per usual JP is ALWAIS right about EVERYTHING.

Cue retards naysayer howling.

I hate u JP y u gotta be always right?

The ride newer ends.

>>138075726
De stat. De oricine pune mâna pe putere. O să fie la ei cum a fost la noi în comunism. O să se vândă unii pe alții la autorități, pentru că i-a durut în pulă, și o să îi doară în pulă.
Nu că un mucos răsfățat ca tine ar știi ceva de chestiile astea.
Nici măcar nu ești în stare să îți scrii limba cum trebuie, ca mai toate jegurile din generația ta.

this thread really shows two things about /pol/
>too retarded to understand his points
>literally the polar opposite of what they hate aka extremist retards
you don't fight extreme left, or alt-left, or postmodern marxists, or globalsts or whatever left by roleplaying hitler or whatever polar opposite. and I'm not talking about beeing an indecisive centrist with no opinion or balls to act either for those of you who, when presented with an argument, sunbconsciously misinterpret it and fall into straw men

can't you see the already present consequences of Charlottesville? holy shit /pol/ get your shit together

>>138076471
Peterson is so naive he swallow Disney film propaganda hook line and sinker. The guy is a glorified motivational speaker. And most likely a charlatan who's now only taking advantage of his newfound audience.

>>138076584
>you don't fight
Yes, you just lie down and let yourself be walked over. It's you who's the idiot here. Peterson speaks highly of a terrorist like Nelson Mendela thinking he was some sort of pacifist, and he thinks Ghandi was anything more than a propaganda prop that was used by a British elite as an excuse to dump India, which was already in the planning. Or he knows this, and pretends he doesn't.

Like I said, he's either naive, or a conartist robbing people in exchange for pointless motivational speeches.

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>>138076834

You gave the perfect definition of him.
He's getting thousands on patreon to make youtube videos.
It's laughable.

>>138077243
>Yes, you just lie down and let yourself be walked over.
next time read the entire post before you respond, you fucking retard

>>138060759
King Nigger was bound to attract even more minorities to the Democrat side.
Of course the person running against fucking Clinton would make gains with the brownies

>>138076276
We need to spread the message that anon's are not needed in NM, California, Colorado, NY, RI, Mass. ect.... you're wasting your fucking life in these places go to Wisconsin, PA, Ohio, MI FL.

>>138076834
Pinocchio was old, racist, anti-semitic Disney

>>138077842
If we convinced enough white people to leave California and NY and shit, and move to the midwest/montana/mainly white states, we could literally let everywhere else crash and prop ourselves up as the only stable states remaining.

>>138056755
Play by the rules and you are controlled by those rules. Since you didn't make the rules, sooner or later, you'll lose. It's best to make your own rules that your opponent is unaware of.
Wow great fucking insight. He gets 50k a month in patreon for this type of advice? ffs

This is my final post on the matter: I lived through communism. Peterson has only read about it in books. Nothing of what he's suggesting will help you with jack shit. He's just spouting useless platitudes and moral cliches. But hey, maybe you do want to live in a totalitarian state. Peterson certainly does seem to want just that, much as he is saying otherwise. His whole advice on the matter is so damn contradictory. Is one supposed to stand up and point out the truth or not? When he is spouting platitudes of course, he says that you must be brave etc etc etc -- empty words. Now you see his real advice, when he has skin in the game:

>don't point out the truth about the anti-white/european ideology,
Just lie over, and enjoy being ethnically cleansed.

>>138057328
We don't need to reject white identity politics in general, just not play in their framework.

>>138074766
but, dude, their neglect in those states simply didn't matter. they wouldn't surpass the GOP tally if they campaigned harder in those states. michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania are (were) locked blue-wall states for them and the nigger turnout didn't drop that much. trump also made a lot of dummy whites cross party lines. this can be more accurately seen in northeast pennsylvania and exurban ohio areas. there was nothing hillary could do to counter this and bernie would have been even more routed in non-urban areas. the GOP found their gold mine. will they be smart enough to continue capitalizing on this and ride trump's white, buy american/hire american non-urban patriotic base? I doubt that. they're the surrender caucus.

as long as californians and spics stop turning texas into another colorado, america is safe IF the RNC stick to this ground game.

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JBP is wealthy.

What \pol\ doesn't sufficiently understand is that NatSoc\Identitarian movement is all about the working class.

(The shrinking) middle class and the upper class whites will always throw us under the bus because 'multiculturalism' isn't their problem: they live in white suburbs and white gated communities, respectively. Their kids are fine.

NatSoc *is* socialism, and rightly so: it's socialism for whites only. Others can get the fuck out.

>>138078266
Obvious advice is not so obvious to people that fall for the white nationalist meme

>>138078140
No, Pinocchio is typical SWAPL
>muh listen to your conscience
>muh listen to your feelz
It's a subversive story. that is nothing like its source, much like every other Disney film which "sanitises" and perverts everything truthful and useful about the original fairy tales etc.
The fact that Disney was anti-semitic is irrelevant.

And Peterson also praises nu-Disney (like Moana, most recently).
Sorry Murrican-bro, but you're very confused.

>>138078186
First, we have to build places working class whites from blue states will want to move to...I.e. /pol/colony

>>138076584
He is advocating the opposition to identity politics entirely in favor of individualism.
It has nothing to do with larping.
Anti-white identitarian collectivism has been fighting against individualism for over 50 years and it has won.
Anti-white identitarians run media, colleges and a large portion of politics in most western states.

His solution is to keep advocating for individualism.

>>138056755
He's right. Identity politics by definition is exclusionary so you're excluding a large amount of the voting population from ever supporting you. That's why the Democrats are losing white supporter even among people who'd vote for leftist economic policies and blacks who are socially conservative vote Democrat.

>>138057328
Hispanics actually vote pretty middle ground. They voted like 30% Trump.

>>138078915
Its a marathon, not a sprint. In good time anon.

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>>138074344
Kek saw it while walking. Never phone posted before. Fixed?

>>138079265
In historical terms, it's a sprint
Everything white people build in these blue states will be taken from their children and given to immigrants and minorities

They're wasting their lives

>>138079507
Wow... nm

>>138079027
and that's the right approach precisely because of how much power the left has
unless you want war, suffering and completely uncertain outcome

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>>138079027

>>individualism has never been tried yet

Oh good grief.

>>138056755
The right plays identity politics too. I.e. Charlottesville "unite the right" white race riot luring stormfags with promises of sex across state lines to protest an action put to vote in a Virginia municipality.

>>138079027
Ding Ding Ding

They control all the institutions. The useful idiots have fallen for their communist utopia.

This is their goal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szt7f5NmE9E

Go to 25:00-30:00 he says solving global problems are more important than Democracy.

Soros openly wants this and sees the United States as the biggest obstacle.

>>138079813
So your solution is to keep losing. Universal individualists went from being the dominating position in politics and colleges to being banned and blacklisted regularly.

Who cares about uncertain outcomes when the known one is that you won't be allowed to express yourself in public? What's the fucking point of living then?

>>138061278
"Most of my friends are Jews"

Ha, ha, ha, he believes he has Jewish friends?

Ano baka.

>>138080418
That's not communism, don't insult communism.

That is Kojeve's (a Soviet spy who basically created the European Common Market (>European Economic Community>European Union)) "Hegelian" synthesis of capitalism and communism on a global scale.

>"The universal and homogeneous state is `good' only because it is the last (because neither war nor revolution are conceivable in it: mere `dissatisfaction' is not enough, it also takes weapons!)

>In the final state there naturally are no more `human beings' in our sense of an historical human being.The `healthy' automata are 'satisfied' (sports. art, eroticism, etc), and the `sick' ones get locked up.As for those who are not satisfied with their `purposeless activity' (art etc), they are the philosophers (who can attain wisdom if they `contemplate' enough).By doing so they become `gods'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Koj%C3%A8ve
https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/riccardo-paparusso/kojeve%E2%80%99s-idea-of-end-of-history-philosophical-key-to-european-
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/kojeve-s.htm
http://www.iep.utm.edu/kojeve/

https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism

WEForum 2017:
https://www.weforum.org/events/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2017/sessions/what-if-privacy-becomes-a-luxury-good-davos-2017

Stalin would be better.

>>138070500
>alt left "doesn't see race" bluff
You are literally retarded. They ONLY see race.

>>138079061
Okay but thats the whole point of diversity being completely unworkable because en aggregate whites blacks and hispanics vote for different things. Mexicans will largely vote for communistic policies and blacks will never EVER vote for less gibs while white people will generally trend to smaller government. You brought identity politics with diversity. This is the end state of diversity. Voting blocs and balkanization

>>138061278
Mind you, Mr. Peterson does put the boot in to his "Jewish" friends. Concern trolling is the best way to take them on.

>>138072022
>proving my point for me
All of those things that leftists did made us win...so now we should do the same thing?

>>138080777
you can bend the rules if you climb the hierarchy enough
you can surround yourself with people of similar worldview

and lmao im from poland I can say whatever the fuck I want and this ridiculous shit such as bill c-16 in canada will take a good decade or more if ever to be recreated here
also checked

>>138081238
Soros said exactly that and the Harai video says the same thing.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDrTkvFB6Zk&t=187s

It goes back to Plato and a desire to return to a pre-modern society.

This is in direct contrast to Nietzche and Aristotle. He claims to want an open society, but this is in direct contrast to Popper's books.

Social engineering and historicism are the tools of the Platonist closed caste system. The Jews believe themselves to be superior philosopher kings. In their system, it is ok to cheat lie and steal to maintain order.

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>>138056755
Peterson is a typical boomer faggot.

>>138082171
>you can bend the rules if you climb the hierarchy enough
>you can surround yourself with people of similar worldview
But you can't. That's the whole point. Their encroaching, their influence, has only increased over the past few decades why do you think it'll stop now?
>Oh but you can talk to your friend Benny in private about how your 8yo son shouldn't be forced to ingest estrogen so its not a problem
that's slave mentality

JBP doesn't live in Poland, he is advocating solutions for the US and Canada. The current situation in Poland is not relevant, the situation in US and Canada is.

>>138065855
What matters is the lefty shitheads know that someone is opposing them. For them, the real win is if they take them down unopposed.

Then they must be slaughtered at the ballot box.

kerdasi amaq

>>138078266
It's valuable to have people like him, see this thread where more than half the faggots are proposing behaving like useful idiots pawns of the left.

>>138061078
>b-b-but muh horseshoe theory.....
fuck off back to t_d

>>138056755
>into making this about race
It IS about race. It's a fucking war on whites.

>>138056755
>Jordan Peterson: Spread Your Asscheeks for God and Buy Into My Pseudointellectual Bullshit, Don't Forget to Sign Up for the Monthly Donation
>/pol/: BASED. FUCKING BASED SO SMART, HE SAYS WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS THINKING BEFORE I HEARD HIM SAY IT. BASED TIME TO CLEAN MY ROOM. *sits on /pol/ for 10 hours*

>>138083748
No that is what (((they))) want. Don't fall into the trap. The globalist wants to destroy the United States.

>>138073860

>it's super duper easy to have 5%off white Americans to go full Rwanda

Guess how I know you never left your basement

>>138068385
To be white means being able to plan ahead for at least a year; this is something niggers never had to do in their African environments.

For some reason, libtards think that darkies should aspire to become like them.

>>138076834
the world champion for folks who can't sit through anything longer than 20 minutes that isn't animated/has a laugh track

>>138063670
If we are bred out into a brown mass all these things go away.

>>138082963
case in fucking point

also naturalization act of 1790 didn't rule out non-whites for no reason

boomers need to be shamed with asymetrical propaganda just like commies

this is the ̶ ̶m̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶i̶m̶p̶o̶r̶t̶a̶n̶t̶ ̶f̶u̶n̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶L̶e̶a̶g̶u̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶S̶h̶a̶d̶o̶w̶s̶ ̶ only way forward

>>138061078
>fckn sheep
We don't blindly follow here. We learn with facts and real world observations. Watch debates between moderates and "alt-righters." The alt-right, white nationalists, and race realists can't be refuted; even Nazis, on a lot of things.

>>138063670
>Being white is fucking nothing. Being morally superior and truthful is everything
Those two things describe far more non-Jewish whites than other groups, hence the race issue.

>>138057328
>i can't stand this retard
Show me your citations, brainlet. Oh what's that? You got none?

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>>138068972
define white. I dare you. None of you fuckers can come up with a consistent definition for this meme because there is always some point where you start having bias for how your particular "white" is skewed to be advantageous to you but not "non-white" that have the same melanin as you.

>Spaniards aren't white
>Italians aren't white
>Greeks aren't white
>Nords are only the true whites!
>Roman descendants are the only true white!
>Pale Latinos aren't white!
>X is honorary aryans because of Y!
>Sammy Sosa is white!

Seriously, if you aren't the homogeneous people of your local vicinity with a probably identifiable culture, don't claim yourself as a group or racial identity.

Italians are italians because they are the natives of their lands, same with Brits with the isles, etc.

Americans can't claim shit, because after 1st generation, everyone is a mutt with their actual connection to their original cultures getting pulled every which way and then diluted into bland mess of media, pop culture, and post-McCarthy notion of what it is to be "white."

Why don't you quit pretending that you're not some omni-mutt of european peoples that were treated like sub-humans 90 years ago in this country without a culture who has nothing to cling to for semblance of identity other than what television has depicted for you as a middle class and up citizen.

>>138057887
Prisons prove this.

>>138067705
He gave lefty shithead politicians an excuse to behave like the immature, disrespectful, uncivilised, anti-American barbarians that they are. They fell into the trap that he set for them. If they can do what they want unopposed and without political consequences; they win.

People have to get mean, politely mean, but mean, with these scalawag and (((carpetbagging))) bastards.

>>138056755
>THEY created identity politics rules SO THEY COULD WIN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

>>138060196
>Put a group of multi-ethnic kids in school together and they don't start fucking genociding the minorities.
Actually, they do. This is human nature. To not know this, you'd have to have had a VERY sheltered life or been fortunate to have lived around nothing but exceptionally nice people. Put a few poor people in a room filled with rich people and the rich will talk shit and work against them. Put a retarded kid in a group of normal kids and they'll abuse him. Kids are far worse than adults when it comes to ganging up on people different than themselves.

>until adults 'educate' them.
This is an anti-white myth. Racial resentment is learned through experience.

>>138061359
Each election proves this. Whites want to live one way, while everyone else generally wants to live another way. The non-white side has been winning for far too long. It's time to free whitey.

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>>138068406
>a fucking aussie
no offense but you really don't understand america
it's always been about race. the right won't let racial politics go.

>>138056755
who gives a shit what this irrelevant cuck thinks?

>>138079507
That was an awkward but interesting read.

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>>138086563
>Racial resentment is learned through experience.
It's learned through people not being true to themselves about the source of their problems.

>>138056755
This pasta is being shilled to turn us on Peterson.

>>138087714
like putin in denial just like trump because his daughter got married to a filthy jew?

try again, two-bit faggot

>>138061169

because less voted altogether because there wasn't a nigger running on the Democrats side. Hillary was awful.

>>138087031
>Whites want to live one way, while everyone else generally wants to live another way.
Yes, this is true. The issue is the way whites want to live comes at the expense of everyone else.
If Whites would just stay in their own countries and stop trying to exploit other countries for cheap/free labor and cheap natural resources, and going so far as to use military force when they don't get their way, there wouldn't be a nonstop stream of refugees invading their lands.

>>138084963
When greed mixes with christian morality, the only thing left is to dub the people you exploit as subhumans to absolve yourself of guilt. You ignore the facts that don't support your narrative and build your "irrefutable" arguments on invalid data aggregated by other white supremacists with agendas.

>>138085304
Of a European genetic ancestry
Europeans don't exist is a retarded argument

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It's astounding how nu-pol buys this faggot's neo-Christ pretext.

>if your enemies forming a cohesive group to attack you, don't form a cohesive groupt to defend and counter-attack, just take it up the ass

This faggot makes $66K/mo for THIS???? He's either a shill or completely disconnected from reality. You cannot advocate passivity when your enemy group has an observable identity, with defined targets and objectives that run counter to yours. This is either stupidity or Jewish shilling. It literally cannot be anything else. These faggots that advocate libertarianism are falling into 'stupidity' category btw, and i urge them to move to the libertarian paradise of Somalia at once

"identity politics" is the centrist meme against traditionalism just like "bigot racist nazi" is the leftist meme against us

it's not an argument, it doesn't address any of the points and it tries to simplify the position into something to be attacked and ridiculed

it's one big fucking strawman basically

>>138060196
did you even do a quick google search before you spewed this leftist garbage?

https://phys.org/news/2017-04-infants-racial-bias-members.html

>>138061496
if the trend continues GOP will have an entire slice of cake

>>138089158
He's a man from a 99% white country
He has zero experience in the subject why take him seriously on this issue

>>138080418
What do you call a sewer rat, who has fled his sewer, shed his fur, learned to walk upright and imitate the speech of man?

>>138089158
> This faggot makes $66K/mo for THIS????
Everything you need to know about Peterson (like Southern, Spencer, or the rest of the Patreon/Hatreon crowd) is summed up in that one question.

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>>138089545
This isn't an excuse. My country isn't multiculti shit but most of the people get it. He's a fucking professor, he should be able through reasoning and deduction come to a legitimate conclusion, not cuckservative wishful thinking. That's why i am certain that he's a shill

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>>138056755

He doesn't explain how to win.
He just says what not to do and I've been seeing a lot of that lately.
Just sit still don't do that, don't do anything, and somehow it will work out.
Fuck that.
And the divide has already occurred. The identity politics are FORCED on you. You have no choice but to wear it. Nazi. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't.
And we are currently being eliminated.
And if we resist that is part of the plan.
Assured destruction.
Go down fighting.

>>138056755
>Give up your beliefs if you want to win
Gas

>>138085304
alright, so indo-europeans left the caucasus and, in europe, where very few mixed with phoenicians in specific locations of mediterranean europe, they kept 99% of their racial composition intact, and... they're not white because some half-blood across the ocean is grumpy about his own heritage.

whites in america are very much alike and share good culture and values. it doesn't matter if it's someone with racially unmixed Sicilian descent, someone with Slavic blood in the Midwest, someone with French descent in New England

modern offshoots of liberalism try in vain to pass people as atomized "individuals" while ignoring ever-present organic features of society

the american experiment proved throughout the last two centuries that huge amount of whites create a huge amount of wealth also outside of europe. and don't give this "treated like sub-humans" bullshit. just look at gdp per capita increase after the industrial revolution.

if so, whites were treated as sub-humans and thrived everywhere. what about the other races?

>>138057328
He's a pseudo science! Faggot who doesn't know what's he's talking about. His little theory on how we evolved to be able to know 250 people, "not so big so you can climb the hierarchy but big enough to be worth it" is fucking dumb. He clearly doesn't understand evolution with that retarded thought. Does he think we are all literally kangs?

>>138080418
Suffering is listening to this guy. Although, he's revealing (((their))) future plans. I'd rather listen to Jordan Peterson. You can, actually learn something from him.

>>138089019
>Yes, this is true. The issue is the way whites want to live comes at the expense of everyone else.
If Whites would just stay in their own countries and stop trying to exploit other countries for cheap/free labor and cheap natural resources, and going so far as to use military force when they don't get their way, there wouldn't be a nonstop stream of refugees invading their lands.

try replacing "whites" with "jews" and read it again. there you go, asshat.

>When greed mixes with christian morality, the only thing left is to dub the people you exploit as subhumans to absolve yourself of guilt. You ignore the facts that don't support your narrative and build your "irrefutable" arguments on invalid data aggregated by other white supremacists with agendas.

nobody is treating anyone like subhumans, it is your cucked sensibility that's showing.

the fact that other peoples have fucked up cultures that enables government tyranny, consistently vote leftist, have worse cultures and, in many cases, have cultures so grotesque that their IQs as a whole stall at 70

I'm eager to hear your alleged ignored facts

the only fact here is that the anon you were barking at is 110% correct

>>138056755
White racial awareness is the result of both the lost centralised grip on the media and the ongoing replacement and extermination of our people, our culture and our heritage.
If we deny ourselves to challenge our ongoing destruction then we do the Marxists a great service.
JBP is a good guy but he's surrounded himself with too many jews (who are probably nice to him) to understand what they are doing to us.
He's literally an expert on how the jews tried to exterminate Christians in the Soviet Union, yet he fails to see that they are doing the same today to us through other means.

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>>138090436
Well this, we need to fight and we need not only play their game, but play it even dirtier. Everything is fair-game in war, and remember the Geneva conventions and shit applied from 1900s onwards because we realised the extent of the cruelty that could be done to us (between european countries that is) and we refrained from doing it. Before that, everything was fair game in war, and everything will be after us in the unfortunate event of the West not making it.

One cannot guilt-trip a Jew to be honorable for he has no honor. One can only out-jew the jew

>>138092241
Who gives a shit whether he sees it or not; do you and everyone else see it? Can you formulate a strategy to oppose (((them)))?

>>138072106
Fucking concern troll.

You cannot allow your political enemies to control the terms of engagement. If you understand National Socialism; you wear the hakenkreutz. You do not allow them to say, you can't say that, you can't wear that, you can't fly that flag, you can't read those books, and above all else, you can't stand up to us, which is what the socially-sanctioned bullying that SJWs indulge themselves in is intended to achieve. You cannot give in to their bullying.

This is cold civil war which various people have temporarily turned into a hot one and now find themselves dead or in jail. Turning it into a stand up fight like Dylan Roof; is not the way to do it. You have to fight them smart.

>>138072106
Fucking concern troll.

You cannot allow your political enemies to control the terms of engagement. If you understand National Socialism; you wear the hakenkreutz. You do not allow them to say, you can't say that, you can't wear that, you can't fly that flag, you can't read those books, and above all else, you can't stand up to us, which is what the socially-sanctioned bullying that SJWs indulge themselves in is intended to achieve. You cannot give in to their bullying.

This is cold civil war which various people have temporarily turned into a hot one and now find themselves dead or in jail. Turning it into a stand up fight like Dylan Roof; is not the way to do it. You have to fight them smart not stupid.

identity politics is a necessary stage in a multicultural society which ends when the superior race comes out on top and exterminates all the others

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>>138056755
HE DIDN'T CLEAN HIS ROOM !!!
Then he did & everything was ok.

>>138057328
He really is just spouting banal platitudes under the guise of "philosophy" lately. He's nothing more than some Eckhart Tolle-tier huckster with a camera.

Just imagine how hard the people with real power are who laugh at this guy, the real gear-turners of society, with their billions, moving people and entire industries around like fucking chess pieces for amusement, meanwhile, this guy makes dinky little youtube videos about how you have to hide like a bitch intellectually if you want to "win."

LOL! Win what?! Who is he fucking kidding? This guy has the same exact values as the elite, he's just pissed he isn't one of them; as are most of his materialist secular followers. Low-end cattle complaining about the big cowboys who are whipping them.

Pathetic. Don't waste two minutes on that assclown and his whining "I won't call you your new pronoun" bullshit; he's pathetic enough for even attempting his "discourse with trannies."

Maybe that can be his new series: Discourse with Degenerates, where he psychoanalyzes the desire to remove your dick.

I'd rather go count the ants on the sidewalk.

>>138061184
OOOOO 8 FUCKIN BASED BLACK MEN NOT VOTING FOR GIBS

>>138095939
It's no joke, sort yourself out bucko !

>>138056755
You can't not play identity politics. All you can do is pretend not to be. Race and ethnicity underlies everything.

>>138057328
I like peterson, and he mostly seems to strive for the truth
but there are some truths that he doesn't think or speak, because it makes him feel uncomfortable, or because he has a lot to lose

how about "fuck peterson because he's a whiny beta cunt who casts himself as a victim at every opportunity"

seriously I will never understand how this marshmallow faggot became a figurehead for people on the right.

>>138078656
>to people that fall for the white nationalist meme
It's not only contained to political ideology. This works for everything in life. In regard to political ideology, though, similar end goals don't necessitate the same methods.

>>138083322
>It's valuable to have people like him
I agree, but all the fawning that I see people do over him or others like him is ridiculous. I mean, if this is the apex of our modern conscious, we're so fucked as a species. Not so much in a political sense, but societal.

>>138056755
>leaf intellectuals

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>>138097469
Ultimately, it's "if you kill your enemies, they win" just rephrased

>>138097229
are people on the right so starved for intelligent representation that they'll spread their legs for someone as mediocre as jordan peterson?

>>138097833
It's more a sign of our times, and the infantilization of society that has been going on for decades. Although, I would have to say the left is much dumber than the right.

>>138090135
"my country isn't multiculti shit" lol bullshit i threw a tiropita on the sidewalk there and five albanians scurried out of the gutter to try and get it

>>138097010
My theory is that he has a lot of non-white students who look up to him and he doesn't want to alienate them.

>>138059782
This

>>138061496
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>>138061616
You guys literally don't know shit about American politics. Fuck retards on the left, and fuck you too.

>>138098340
i think the left got lazy during the obama years and as a result there are a lot of sloppy smug idiots in contrast to the younger right wingers that had to find logical means to argue their positions.

so there appears to be a higher volume of young people on the right wing who actually know what they're talking about, but that will likely even out in the coming years as the redpill morons tossing jordan peterson's salad become similarly lazy and the younger people on the left have to actually do research instead of retweet shit that jon stewart says

>>138099740
>the left have to actually do research instead
The only problem with that is that most left-leaning policies are unsustainable. Having to research it would only push them to the right. There's a reason why the left always replaces what is academia and censors

>>138098513
I think the same, we've all seen the muzzie hijabis who sit front row in his lectures