After the Charlotteville events, NY Mayor Bill de Blasio pledged to remove the Marechals Commemorative plaque from Broadway.
Quick reminder
>He was the victor of Verdain
>Loved by his troops
>Signed the French Armistice
>Saved most of the French Jews...
>...while allowing for the Foreign Jews to be deported, during German occupation
Is it justified?
>Most Americans (especially SJWs) don't know him.
>He was a controverted figure (the same can be said about the founding fathers)
>No one is perfect, No one can rewrite history
He ran Vichy France which were fascists but yeah I don't get this move because 99% of Americans would have no clue about him. I only know him because I have a boner for France.
>>138027939
His Doxa was protecting France ( or what remained of it).
>Had to comply with some German requests
>Vichy France was recognized by Roosevelt
>He is a complex figure
>>138027862
Didn't know he had a plaque on fucking Broadway.
He's reviled as a traitor in France where there are no monuments in his honor.
It was probably put up during or after WW1.
>>138029847
1931
>>138029500
I've always found France's position on Vichy opportunistic and hypocrite.
> Most of Frances administration was supporting it.
>All judges swore ailigence to Vichy
>>138027862
So passing is merely a formality in NY?
>>138029500
>He's reviled as a traitor in France where there are no monuments in his honor.
He is a traitor
>>138031208
I guess
>>138030075
This desu
>entire country submits
>after they get rescued they pretend it didn't happen
theeternalgaul.png
Every fascist is a good fascist. Except Mussolini, he was garbage.
>>138027862
>was the one to disarm France by banning freedom to own guns without asking permission to anyone (still in effect to this day), even before nazis asked for that
fuck him
fuck his memory
fuck his legacy
>>138031403
He is also only reason why France wasn't completely leveled and didn't suffer insane casualties in WWII. French army wasn't in position resist after Schlieffen Plan 2.0: the Mechanized Boogaloo proved to be successful.
>>138031684
>Every fascist is a good fascist
>every leftist is a fascist
>every leftist is good
sad
wouldn't even hire you to unclog loo
>>138027862
They can remove each and every statue or plaque at this rate, No one was 100% angel, Elvis, MLK, Indian leaders etc...
Fun fact: such behaviour is pure fascism.
>>138031896
>I hope you are being retarded on purpose.
>>138032102
kys, easternigger
Lmao
Racist burger nignogs keep getting BTFO. LMAO.
>>138032203
Not an argument, faggot.
>>138032026
Well I guess, they've already prepared the dynamite...
These white men are too oppressive for minorities
>>138032322
you're not even a Human, you fucking pole
I know what you Trumpcucks are thinking: "If they take down monuments to Nazi collaborators, who next? George Washington?"
Well here's what I say to the traitors brandishing swastikas, Confederate battle flags, anti-Semitic banners and “Trump/Pence” signs:
We beat you in 1865.
We beat you in 1945.
We beat you in 1969.
We beat you in 2008.
It will be a pleasure to defeat you once and for all. For AMERICA will always be BETTER than the traitors, racists, and fascists. Your stooge in chief just outed himself and AMERICA is answering.
>>138032393
*yawn*
>>138027862
To be fair he was a fucking traitor to his own country and killed thousands of Americans soldiers. Nobody should be praising this POS
>>138032393
Without them, Wiena would've been Turkish
> Show a bit of respect
>>138032554
We should join the Turks and burn that shithole you ungrateful fucks.
>>138032554
>his country has lived under commie rule
>still doesn't realize fascism is one of the two teats of leftism, together with theft
respect is not a due
it's earned.
>>138027862
Any white person who was not perfect their entire life should be vilified. JFK screwed around behind his wife's back; get rid of all the memorials to him. All those slave owners, like Jefferson and Washington? remove all tributes, rename cities and states.
White people should be held to a higher standard.
>>138032673
>>138032554
>People caring about some meaningless 17. century battle
>>138027862
thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmsdHnQ7RD8
>>138027862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Va9G2YTOuc
>>138032757
>fascism is one of the two teats of leftism
You are talking about nazism, you uneducated piece of garbage.
>>138032853
>Meaningless
>>138033016
>talking about nazism
I do live in a socialist cesspit, where more than half the voters even chose one of the 4 hardline commie candidate on the first turn of the last presidential election
I certainly am not just talking about nazism, you dumb loo fiddler
>>138032442
>Congratulations. You just created more nazis.
All I can think of.
>>138033016
you know that Mussolini was literally a socialist and he was supported by liberals in the USA and leftists in Europe until he attacked Abisinia
>>138032026
>Elvis
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Elvis.
>>138033210
he's probably an uneducated idiot, I doubt you should have any hopes to convince him to anything
>>138027862
Marechal, nous voila.
>>138032442
>For AMERICA will always be BETTER than the traitors
Gommunists are OK dough :DDDD
>>138033433
I guy in my cram school randomly started singing that in the history class.
>>138027862
And nothing of va value would be lost
>>138027862
Isn't he literally French Hitler?
Even though he spared you from an assrape and turned it into a molestation at worst
>>138033679
It's the longest string of French that I can pronounce, Frog-san. A pretty tune.
>>138030075
That's why he's hated. France could only survive as a nation if everyone buried the past of the war years. It would have been impossible to build the 4th Republic without people who had worked in the civil and military administration of Vichy.
In order to get over this mental trauma, all the blame was pinned on one man entirely. Petain was the fall guy. But I don't think he would have minded, he loved France and would have seen his hate figure status as a necessary sacrifice for the continuation of France.
Maréchal nous voilà !
Devant toi, le sauveur de la France
Nous jurons, nous, tes gars
De servir et de suivre tes pas
Maréchal nous voilà !
Tu nous as redonné l'espérance
La Patrie renaîtra !
Maréchal, Maréchal, nous voilà !
>>138027862
Is it justified? No, this is a mad dash to rub out people from a living memory before while they still have the capital to pull it off.
>>138034330
>would have been impossible to build the 4th Republic
would have been for the better...
4th republic was just the puppet of "conseil national de la (so called) résistance", one of the most abjectious commie hive of all history
its (((legacy))) is the number one reason this country is so shit to this day
>>138034330
>Exactly
>France is still the land of Scapegoats politics
>>138034613
> It was an unstable political system: 28 governments in 10years
> Sill France remained a working country thanks to High Public Servants
>>138035370
>working country
the shitflinging of 4th republic is precisely why this country can't even pretend to work, you dumb cunt
the one and only solution was for that de gaulle monkey to accept Merry Friends proposition to get rid of all the commies immediately (which he refused because of the "union nationale" fucktardry)
>>138035565
>working country= Working bureaucracy and administrations
>>138035795
>Working
>bureaucracy and administrations
>Working
no such thing ever happened
and even less so in France
>>138033252
Junkie, homophobe... and certainly not a leftist.
>>138035871
Well, you never stepped outside Western Europe.
>>138035871
Or ever had to bribe a public servant
>>138036007
He was also chaffeur for that guy in army.
>>138030075
>france is getting swarmed by muslims and niggers thanks to jews
>he's a traitor
How does that work?
>>138037774
And who's that guy?
>>138038132
Olavi Alakulppi. A Finnish officer who had to fuck from Finland to US after WW2 due to weapons caching case bunch of other officers. Once he got into US he naturally joined the US Army.
Does De Gaulle have any statues, memorials or plaques in the US?
They better not remove it. They better not touch him.
>>138038601
thx
>>138038635
He was kind of a colonialist oppressor thought.
>>138027862
Don't tell him from where the New YORK came from.
>>138039239
He could also be a real pain in the ass. But he's still one of my absolute favorite 20th century statesmen from the non-Hungarian subcategory. I like he was a complete adrenaline junkie inside who loved danger. I also like how he was a decent human being towards his sick daughter.
>>138027862
>>Saved most of the French Jews...
fuck him
>>138032853
>meaningless
>>138039851
>WW1
>Encercled by Germans
>Leeds the last suicide assault rather than surrendering
>Wounded, most men killed
>>138031867
He was already semi-senile, he didn't do shit, he was just a tool
>>138031403
How?
>>138039851
>I also like how he was a decent human being towards his sick daughter.
And he never bragged about it, never tried to take advantage of it in the public opinion.
>>138032757
Most Poles are actually conservatives who are pro-democracy. Even most of the nationalists just want a strong ethnically Polish democracy. Don't mind Bartek, he's just an ass.
>>138040825
If I recall, he was captured, taken prisoner and he hated it because not being able to fight while there is a war going on feels like being cucked.
And he was cellmates with Tukhachevsky who used to either play violin (he was a highly literate officer who later became very good friends with Sostakovich, the famous composer) or rant about nihilism and about how Jews are evil.
>you will never share a cell with De Gaulle and Tukhachevsky
>you will never smell the farts of two very intelligent military theorists
Does the French left have anyone as grand as him? A French leftist would probably bring up Sartre, I guess...
>>138041724
The Republican left (the not degenerate meritocratic part) has Victor Hugo.
>DG called the Jews a nation of Self-confident masters, elites, and dominators.
>>138041724
>Does the French left have anyone as grand as him? A French leftist would probably bring up Sartre, I guess...
Maybe Georges Clemenceau or Jean Jaurès.
But I don't think any actual leftist really know them.
deblasio aka Warren Wilhelm
Don't worry about it frenchy, americans are shallow to the bone, if they remove the statue you can't expect them to truly know or care about it save for the goodboy points it awards in the current political climate.