EU pro refugee propaganda

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>>138020651
>the demography shows us that we are a continent where we will need people
ok so get whites to fucking breed more

>>138020651
yay more muslims & africans to replace us, the drugs in the water make me like this idea.

>>138020651
>that women essentially saying she's twice as good as Germans

LMAO. Someone needs to splice in footage from the aftermath of the Barcelona, Nice, London, Manchester, Paris, Berlin, Stockholm attacks.

>>138021074
It's crazy if you think this idea is now being promoted by academia

>>138020894
White women don't want children.

>>138020651

The EU is the biggest threat against the White race.

>>138020651
ITS THE FUCKING KIKES.

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>>138020651
>Inspire us all

To slam them into helicopters and nuke Africa and the Middle East?

This is what happens when you give out gibs to dumbass niggers.

The only thing the EU is good at inspiring is Euroskepticism, Right Wing Nationalism, and pointing out much they love cucking to Soros and friends.

We've survived in the past with far fewer people. This is nothing but economic lunacy that will destroy European nations and cultures in the name of progress.

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>>138020894
Our so-called "ultra right" party suggested exactly this.

They were called "Nazis" by everyone. Obviously.

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Why don't we just automate every stupid low wage job a monkey could do and step into the age of tech instead of stepping back into stone (pun intended) age

Libertards could cry then for UBI but not anymore with the upcoming costs and risks for society and state

Gott verdammt

>>138021124
it's not really all that crazy. the most fucking evil suggestions tend to come from the most intelligent people. they are pretty prone to getting lost in their thoughts and losing contact with reality

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>>138020651
Last option

>>138021475
That guy holding the mic is the kike that said it's good Germans are dying out right? "Jedes Jahr sterben mehr Deutsche als geboren werden"

>>138021603
That's true. But I was alluding to the extent in which they are waging a war against us. I don't think people realise how bad it is

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>>138020651
>mindless automaton eyes

why is it always like this? brainwashing?

>>138021573
Robotics isn't quite there yet, and economic migrants are almost always going to be much cheaper. Besides, this is more about diluting your nation state's culture and national pride to make you more ''''''European'''''''.

>>138021747
>I don't think people realise how bad it is
They don't. They have convinced themselves that their end goal will bring utopia and now it's just "the end justifies the means".
They are fully aware that they bring suffering and strife, but they are also totally convinced that it is just temporary as as soon as they moved past it the world will be perfect.

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>>138021747
Yeah, that's him. If he's not busy cheering about white genocide, he is busy promoting degeneracy.

How do we get Israel to start taking migrants?

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>>138021811
Here is her prize.

>>138021811
Liberalism
Childlessness
Dried up ovaries

>>138020894
>the demography shows us that we are a continent where we will need people

that myth has to stop, there is more whites in current year than ever before in history, and that is the problem.

whites don't have 10+ kids because they're rational and know that life would be rough

other races do, and that's the part of problem why they're poor and malnutritioned.

we don't need migrants, we don't need more people on this continent because this is just fine number and we're all living better than ever.

fuck of from europe, we're full

>promote contraception
>destroy family and marriage
>brainwash the moronic masses into believing there is an overpopulation crisis(never mind that their country's population is shrinking and the population boom is happening in the third world)
>meanwhile feed the booming population in these nigger countries that cant sustain their population boom on their own
>flood the dying countries with the expanding foreign hordes
>brainwash the moronic masses that they will be exploring space like in their sci-fi wet dream propaganda shows if they continue supporting this failure of an ideology

>>138021946
They won't. Either they will end up in Palestine and get bombed to the stone age while being backed by Commies. Or they will be pretty much treated like outcasts in Israel itself and the Zionists don't want goyim.

You would need to dissolve the state and their Zionist plans, or at the very least make it non-profitable to deal with them and they would probably have a change of heart when the blood money stops coming in.

>>138021814
What dude? We send satilites to mars but unable to make a roboter for simple tasks ? Srs?

Costs for the economy are cheap in short term but society, wealth and state will pay the price sooner or later, probably already

>>138020651
>more people
>always more people
>almost too many people
>that's when they pull a holodomor on us

Never live in a densely populated area.

>>138022027
All the western welfare states have turned into pyramid schemes which constantly need many more people paying into the system than using it. This is aggravated further by an aging population which is now easily living into the 90s.

Ultimately the system is doomed to collapse in on itself, but these people are quite happy to destroy their nations to prop it up while they're still alive.

>>138021814
>much cheaper
I read that as "economic migrant can be paid basically $0 because they are professional travelling scam artists and swindlers"

>>138022022
>Liberalism
>Childlessness
>Dried up ovaries

this

>>138020651
>year 2000
>we are overpopulated, our carbon footprint is too big, be responsible and stop having babies!

>year 2017
>our population is dwindling, we need more people, we have to import another country into our to replace our population!

It's so obvious that surely not even normies don't see it.

>we're on the verge of automation that's going to render lots of low-skilled job positions obsolete
>we need millions of low skilled economic migrants from North Africa because we're an "aging population"

Which is it?

>>138020894
It is not even fucking true. They are lying to our faces. We do not need anymore people, we need less. Comming years will remove more and more low skilled work.

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Our Belgian State Secretary for Asylum and Migration, Theo Francken, responded to the tweet. Give the fella a like if you want. He's trying his upper most best to protect us and to red pill the masses, despite being under 24/7 siege by the MSM and academia

>>138020651
Everyone in that video is speaking in abstractions. All rhetoric basically. I don't think they actually have a concrete plan of what to do with them. Scary stuff man.

>>138022232
"to believe that black is white, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary" - Orwell

>>138022115
>but unable to make a roboter for simple tasks ? Srs?

Yes. Making a robot which can handle what might seem to be mundane tasks AND do it reliably at a viable price point is extremely difficult.

>>138021814
>migrants are almost always going to be much cheaper
dude. they do not fucking work! They are not going to be cheaper in any way or form, they do not work!!!!

>>138022027
This. Less people = better life for everyone. Better for ecosystem and planet as well. The only ones pushing for more people are Jews at the top because their pyramid scheme needs more people to function.

Whites shouldn't have more children, our number is just fine, it's other races that are the problem and need to have LESS

>>138022378
Out of the enormous flood that arrived starting from last year, you'll easily be able to find a few prepared to clean toilets for practically nothing. The rest? The population will be made to pay for them through the welfare state.

>>138021426

The population of the entire Roman Empire at its height was only sixty million, which is less than population of Great Britain alone today. The population of Great Britain at the start of Victoria's reign, when we ruled the world, was itself only 14 million. This notion that civilization would collapse if we let our numbers naturally decline a little is lunatic.

>>138022303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

>>138020651
Didn't Germany's ethnic German people just increase the rate they had children by a tiny bit but which changed the demographic forecast in a few decades by a few million? Who makes these people think they can plan ahead like this? Propaganda is all it is.

>>138022509
>This notion that civilization would collapse

The economy will. But obviously an economy dependent on endless population growth is doomed to fail either way.

>>138022507
>pay

nobody uses real money anymore, the last gold peg died in switzerland 17 years ago. it's fiat all the way down.

>>138022218
people are imported because nobody wants to work so called shitty jobs; there is no shitty jobs, every job is okay job for your qualifications.

now, we're getting to the `more people` notion - the rise of immigration, taking away so called shitty jobs from locals, is when locals decide to take more education for better payed jobs - effectively creating quasi-intelligence and leftists that want class, gender or any other struggle, pushing for more people and in the end they will kill society, since REAL proletariat of workers is now 3rd world immigration that doesn't give a fuck about class or gender struggle therefore modeling the society in their own terms.

We don't need that, we must enforce lefties to work real jobs.

>>138022378
had that just on the radio this morning
>Arbeitsamt employee
>"We managed to get a single digit percentage of them into the work market"
>doesn't mention the exact number so it's probably 2-3% and not 7+% like he hopes people think
>"I-integration will totally fix it though"
It has been two years. A fuckton of them cannot even read or write. They will never ever find a job, and neither will their children because they'll get raised by illiterate criminals.

>>138022218
The problem are the costs that the welfare state has with a growing low income/iq/migration population and spends it's money in that sector instead of schools, economy or infrastructure

>>138022311
Why so scared of a little more automation? These machines exist and are working but politicians don't want them because it would sacrifice their moral goals. I wish we (read EU/politic) would aim for realism and progress again instead of the never ending social downranking

>>138022507
what I mean is they can bash a keyboard to generate as much money as they want. funding is absolutely not an issue in this world of centralised banking.

>>138022444
As long as other races are having more children than us, we will need to step it up demographically. Muslims in Europe are using demographics as a weapon, that's an established fact. In Belgium and France non-natives are already 20-25% of the -25y olds. More than 25% of the children being born today are muslim. This will translate itself in a conflict when those children become adolescents, which will be around 2030

>>138022507
Not sure if you are aware of that, but massively increasing the amount of welfare recipients also hurts the economy. People can't buy your shit if they have no money left.

>>138020651
>Cecilia Wikström

She's arguably the most vocal traitour in Swedish politics. Just look at her eyes, she's fucking insane. She has been trying to enforce laws to destroy what freedom of speech we have left and ban anti-PC opinions while constatly shilling for unregulated immigration (she said she thinks Sweden need 40 million Africans and Arabs in the next 50 years) Also she's a dyke with no children.

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>>138022687
>>"I-integration will totally fix it though"
We cannot even intergate the turks living here for generations. Holy shit. This thing will come crashing down on society one way or another.

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>>138021603
Don't confuse "intelligence" with prestige. In the pseudo-psych-bullshit anti-scientific fields, it's nothing but political psychobabble warfare. 100% propaganda. Built on funded prestige and ((((tribalism))). Not intelligence. Nothing more, nothing less. And it's getting worse.

>>138022575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs26qv6C-38

>>138020894
White women aren't capable of being mothers anymore.

>>138022776
>Also she's a dyke with no children

Well what a fucking surprise that is

>>138022507
Minimum wage workers (which is the vast majority of migrants) are a net loss to a country's economy. Basically nothing is taxed on them.

>>138022702
>Why so scared of a little more automation?
I'm not, in fact in the very long term it's inevitable if we don't destroy ourselves first.

>These machines exist and are working
Some working proof of concepts have been demonstrated in controlled conditions. That's a very long way off from a usable and affordable consumer product that can work reliably in a normal environment.

>>138020894
>Economists predict that automation will remove 40-50% of low skilled jobs especially in the manufacturing sectors
>"We need hundereds of thousands of people to fill all the low qualified jobs that Europeans aren't doing!"
This is the paradox that is seemingly shilled for from every established party. But when you bring up said automation argument and how the majority of refugees and migrants coming here barely have a formal education if any. In the end it just boils down to the moral argument for these assholes. "OMG! Are you going to turn away millions of people in need! That is not part of our EU values you racist!"
>Rinse and repeat

>>138021167
Guess why. Also, White men aren't much different.

>>138022788
And even if we could, integration is a fucking meme. What you need is assimilation.

>>138022769
You can always borrow money and pay it back later. <:^)

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50 year old career women with no children tell the European public why they shouldn't be upset about their new pets to prop up a broken system
How many times have they tried this exact fucking video now

>>138022769
>>138022855

In the long run yes, they'll fuck up the economy. But for now they can provide multinationals with lots of dirt cheap labour and they can provide short term economic growth by getting into unsustainable debt and consuming goods.

>>138022788
That's always the best part. Integration of turks was a complete desaster, and now they're like
>if we juuuust integrate them harder this time, it will totally work, guys
And the new germans we're getting now are even WORSE than the turks, kek.

>>138022922
I think there are more men than women today in the West that want children

Women also control the dating market, like they always have, so the decision to have children or not is mostly up to them

>>138022952
Exactly.
The muslim religion is build in a way which prevents it either way, before we can do it the muslims need an enlightment. Otherwise it would never ever work. Which it does not right now.
I am always amazed at how many people in real life do not seem to get it.

>>138022885
it's paradoxical because it's all lies, immigration is here to replace white people because (((someone))) holds grudges for history of expelling and hates Christendom and white culture in general. It's that easy

>>138022952
>What you need is assimilation.

Which literally only works with the most intelligent and educated people, or children adopted into our society and raised by parents already part of the culture. It's impossible to assimilate your average rapefugee, assuming they would even want to be assimilated whcih they don't.

>>138022776
>she said she thinks Sweden need 40 million Africans and Arabs in the next 50 years
Because we all know that African countries are peaceful utopias right.

>>138020651
What the fuck is she on? Did she see the size of the middle east? We are tiny compared to them.

>implying niggers and muslims give a shit about the EU morality circlejerk

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>>138020651
The future is bright.

>>138023056
>I am always amazed at how many people in real life do not seem to get it.

I dunno man, a lot of the people in my social circles changed their mind quite rapidly. Even bored moms who initially spouted shit like
>Yeah, but they are not all bad, and the majority does deserve our help. We cannot reject them just because of a few bad apples when we are so rich and could share
are nowadays full 1488 and want them all deported, no fucks given about individuals that assimilated properly. But it always takes fucking ages before such trends manage to seep into the ivory towers of our politicians. I don't think they'll get it before the whole system simply collapses.

>>138022875
Companies can afford it if they have to invest in it or get development funds or else. Imagine the money and the progress possibilities they would have if they didn't have to payfor subhuman's which are a fact proven loss for society

>>138022885
This dual fear of automation taking jobs and slow population growth leaving jobs vacant is making my head spin. I'm sure a bunch of out-of-work migrants hanging around will be great for social stability.

>>138023074
t. racist

Africa is only poor because of white man's colonization.

>>138023119
These liberals are complete psychos. They see humans as nothing more than a number to put into their economic models. Their complete dehumanization of us is why they believe this insane shit.

In that sense they're worse than the socialists who atleast admit people are people.

>>138022218
Yes. However, we could take care of the aging population on our own by increasing social cohesion and volunteering a little bit to help out the old folks. Ain't that hard to go set up a microwave oven, read a book, take some old geezer out on a walk around the block. We could easily deal with the surplus of old folk if we wanted to. We're humans. We're social beings. It's not that difficult. But in a highly bureaucratic system revolving around a pyramid scheme it all becomes impossible and everyone is alienated and everything must be solved in a spreadsheet.

So the powers that be choose to destroy all of us and replace us with third-worlders. Gee, I wonder how that's going to turn out.

What if you put all native Germans in Liberia and all Liberians in Germany, would Germany stay a civilized country for long or would it fall apart? Would Liberia continue to be chaotic? I think we all know the answer. Liberia would eventually flourish while Germany would slide into chaos.

>>138023056
>I am always amazed at how many people in real life do not seem to get it.

I think they do, they just don't want the job loss and social stigma that comes with talking about it.

>>138021167
They want, but not from white men

>>138023416
Whatever helps you sleep at night, jamal

>>138022885
In Australia we call that "moving the goalpost". It doesn't matter what you say, their goal is that you forget your original question: WHY DO WE NEED THIS? Ask them what makes Finland a better place, is it the humans who live there? Ask why the immigrants shit where they eat, then move a thousand miles to shit where you eat, and then why they all pretend it's okay because "everybody gotta shit somewhere". Ask why these people can't improve their homeland. If roles were reversed, you would be murdered by these "desperate immigrants" families for being an invasive species.

>>138023492
Don't deny it, Ahmed

>>138023276
Companies like Amazon are already working on fully automating their warehouses and delivery systems, but getting robotics handling menial labour on the scale you suggest is going to take a lot longer. Even something as simple as having a robot empty a dishwasher is an immensely complex technical problem.

>>138023289
>These liberals are complete psychos. They see humans as nothing more than a number to put into their economic models.

More accurate term would be globalists.
And you are entirely right, they don't see humans as actual humans. They see them as resource, and they'll care about as much about grinding a couple million of them to paste as they'd care about doing the same to ore.

We have demographers advocating for moving more people into the larger cities because that would make it easier to draw maximum economic potential from them. And when the interviewer asked them how families are supposed to pay the increased costs of living the answer was just
>The state offers daycares, with two incomes they can easily shoulder the financial burden

Literally industrial livestock farming with humans.

>>138023578
I have 2, mdongo

>>138023328
A state is always stable if it has a somewhat (ethnic) homogene society

>>138023496
Migrants thankfully don't want to come to Finland because it's cold, we are social autists and our gibs system isn't that generous. Yet the tens of thousands of third world immigrants have already had an impact on certain areas in the Helsinki metro region (and not in a good way). What Finns need is lower taxes and flexible employment opportunities stemming from private enterprises subsidized by government if it's proven successful or provides a vital social function that is a net benefit and not a loss mainly incurred due to government virtue signaling.

>>138023658
>>The state offers daycares, with two incomes they can easily shoulder the financial burden
>work to pay for someone to look after your kids

The sheer insanity of this approach has always confused me.

>>138020651
>Literal crazy eyes
Why do they all look so batshit?

>>138023658
If you want to see some real fucked shit, visit Hong Kong. Rent is so high that you can work them for free, legit $0/hr, if you feed them and let them sleep on site.

>>138023276
Pretty much. An unaccompanied "underage" asylum seeker costs the German state around 90k€ per year. Every fucking year.

That money would have been sufficient to solve their problems ten times over. Either give it as cheap loans to companies to push automation. Or give even just a part of that as welcome payment to newborn Germans. You think people would still be so hesitant to have children if they got promised ~30k over the next couple years?

>>138023742
2 cancer tumors?

>>138023658
They can't even hide how much they despise farmers and people living on the countryside. I guess this is because cities have always ruined people. Even back in the Roman Empire, Rome was a demographic hole and only survived because people from the countryside constantly migrated there. The people in Rome became degenerates who didn't have as many children.

The perfect world for these people would be a completely automatized farming industry by companies like (((Monsanto))) while all the people are soulless cosmopolites just consuming.

>>138020651
i wish all these eurocrats got culturally enriched by some fine muslim gentlemen

>>138023864
let me guess, you've got a system where you have to buy qualifications, keep UP TO DATE with your paperwork? but immigrants have had a HARD LIFE so they get a free pass?

That's how we do it here to make sure that local people are too expensive to hire compared to the endless stream of foreigners.

>>138023328
>What if you put all native Germans in Liberia and all Liberians in Germany, would Germany stay a civilized country for long or would it fall apart? Would Liberia continue to be chaotic? I think we all know the answer. Liberia would eventually flourish while Germany would slide into chaos.

This is what most of them seem to not realize. It is not the country itself that made us rich - fuck, Northern Europe is pretty terrible when it comes to that. We have a harsh climate and few natural resources that are of relevance to advanced societies. It's the people living in it, and if you replace them that whole system collapses.

Or maybe they do get it but have this nigger-tier mindset, where destroying something to loot maybe 1-2% of its worth it still an acceptable trade-off.

>>138024104
One did, he forgave them.

lol

>>138023589
>https://youtu.be/vQb23iORdaU
9 (nine) years ago, video even older maybe

We only don't have machines like that because we have the mass of low iq and subhuman standard people who are desperate/ not qualified enough to do the work

And these people all come from immigration in the majority

>>138020894
calm down, that's pretty racist right there

>>138023416

White men's sperm is the most requested sperm in the world at every fertilization clinic.
Blue-eyed white males answer to about 92% of desired sperm.

The world is full of niggers and spics and gooks not because most of them are planned for years before being conceived, but because third world people breed indiscriminately and don't care for consequences.

When these people actually have money or time to conceive a child, a white child is preferred. Both for fertilization and adoption.

Here in Brazil white orphaned children usually don't last a day at a orphanage while brown children spend their whole childhood at one.
So take your cuck fantasies elsewhere.

>>138024104
This one eurocrat literally had his daughter raped and murdered by a rapefugee and he didn't even look sad. Most of them don't have children anyway.

>>138024048
Well of course, you are less dependable on them in the country side, especially offgrid, they do not like that; they want to control you.

>>138023891
Yeah, that shit should register as mental defect. These people seem to have absolutely zero social skills and are completely devoid of normal human emotion.
Don't need fucking automation when your population is already organic robots.

>>138022378
This. Africa isn't shit because muh colonialism but because Africans don't work.

>>138021426
>>138022509
to be fair its not about size of population, its about the process of it shrinking specifically. with birth rate below replacement, the population ages and there will be too many old people dependent on welfare.
of course, the same thing will happen if you invite third world pieces of shit, plus a lot of other stuff like them actively killing you. in addition, id rather starve 1 month after going in pension than have my race replaced by shitskins and niggers

>>138024273
But the thing is, this isn't just the mindset of the people pulling the strings, who see their fellow citizens as nothing but a resource to be expended for their personal gain.
This mindset is held by a lot of average people, too. Cities really fucking rot your brain.

>>138024150
Europe wasted all natural resources fighting each other xD

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>>138023242
>Thought this was ironic
>looked article up
>it isn't...
>young leftists are ok with giving up your personal freedoms, right to self determination, self sufficiency and actualization just so they can go on and be pampered like children throughout their lives
>They actually think this won't cost anything of value
When your ideology is what dictates your ability to reason and not the other way around then you have just found a new religion or are trying to justify a mental illness.

>>138024217
Indeed, here's a more modern one (see 0:40).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09k1EHNBHA

You have to remember though, that these are still both very expensive proof of concepts running in controlled conditions and highly unlikely to be incapable of performing these tasks on a daily basis without maintenance for a significant amount of time.

>>138020894
>>138020651
And also even if we do need people, why bring in the least educated, least likely to assimilate people when there are millions of educated, law abiding people from east asia and india who would love to live and work here.

they're sayng "oh we need more people, so let's bring in the bottom of the barrel trash who will be the biggest burden on our economy and will assimilate the least"

>>138021169
and what do you propose we do denmark? germany wont let any of you leave. the brits arent even going to be allowed to leave. the brexit will drag out they wont leave AND will have to redo the negotiations for their place in the "single market". 100% loss and its just so every one knows you dont get to leave

wait i know what your implying. every one knows germany wants to run the EU military and destroy europe. so we need to kill merkel rihgt? thats not enough you need to kill le weed man , the queen of england and the saudi royal family as well

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>>138024268

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FUCK THEM I HOPE THEY WILL ALL ROT IN HELL

>The Guardian has suspended comments on its CiF articles reporting on this.

Shocking..

>>138024137
>That's how we do it here to make sure that local people are too expensive to hire compared to the endless stream of foreigners.

>Germany has a minimum wage
>politicians were advocating for suspending it for asylum seekers

Literally trying to push lower class Germans out of the job market.

>>138024544
Ya blabla concepts.. expensive..

now imagine it being made big style which lowers the costs and even the progress in tech it would have if, only IF the market would seriously request it

>>138024137
>let me guess, you've got a system where you have to buy qualifications, keep UP TO DATE with your paperwork?
Kind of. Depends on where you work, for whom and what field you are in.
>but immigrants have had a HARD LIFE so they get a free pass?
Also kind of. But we didn't want this as it pisses people off! The EU forced us to follow their directives regarding the integration of non-EU nationals so if we don't we get sanctioned or fined by Brussels...

>>138021111
Checked.

>>138024681
right, i remember memeing about that happening but i somehow missed it actually happening.
jesus fucking christ

>>138024544
I think you are underestimating just how expensive it is to employ people. There is a massive amount of top of your wage that the employer has to pay into the social systems, and then there is all the paperwork he has to deal with if he employ people.

Robots are fairly cheap in comparison, assuming they don't break down every other months. Our chemical plants are already more or less fully automated, we have chemistry parks the size of cities with only a couple hundred employees. Once you paid the initial costs for the machinery (which you can deduct from your taxes btw) operating it becomes insanely cheap when compared to paying humans to do the same workload.

>>138024760
>now imagine it being made big style which lowers the costs

Again though, there's still a tremendous amount of work to be done in making both the software and hardware work in an unpredictable customer environment, and engineering the system in such a way that it will not need expert maintenance for at least 6 months.

And then even with mass production, something like that isn't going to be cheap just from the costs of materials, let alone the expected return investing in a factory capable of producing it, which is a little bit of a chicken and egg scenario, but it'll be resolved eventually.

Give it another 20-30 years and it might start becoming production-ready.

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>>138020894
NO!

BAD GOY!

No more white people. Only a global brown slave mud race for us to rule over.

>>138024475
The pension system was a really fucking bad idea.
>people spent centuries just putting some money on the side or investing it into their children who could take care of them later on to avoid working till they drop dead
>"lol we should totally change this system for no reason at all"

Only reason they did it was because they could grab the money from the first generation paying into it.

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>>138020651
>basically every reply calling it out for what it is

>>138024664
>germany wont let any of you leave.
Stop this meme, Germany couldn't stop any country from leaving if they really wanted to. The thing is that they don't, because Germany is paying their bills and suffering most of the damage.

They don't give a shit because short term this is still a profitable arrangement for them. The problem sits in almost all European governments, not just in Germany or Brussels.

>>138022027
The whole economy model is based around the assumption that the population will grow and there will be always more younger people in the workforce than there are older people in the retirement.

Now in the past this worked well because not only there were far more kids, older people lived shorter as well. Both of these trends have been reversed and this endangers the whole economy. The politicians are aware of this and, standing at privileged positions, they choose the easiest way out. If the country is out of a certain sort of goods, it's easier to import it than invest in a nation-wide production of your own, especially if you'd need decades to see the fruit of your efforts, right?

The leftist politicians are either cowards, corrupted or puppets. Cowardice is the most relatable of these three - you don't want to gamble on a great reform because 1) there's no guarantee it will work even if uninterrupted, 2) there's no guarantee other countries or global enterprises won't butt in (hello Germany in the 30s) and 3) if the reforms are too drastic (and they have to be), the opposing parties will take over by popular vote within several years and are quite likely to undo your changes. So yeah, media-driven mass democracy fucking sucks, but I digress.

The solution is "easy", that is - it's not an impossible riddle to solve, but the immediate effects would really take a toll on the population, we're talking descending into a third world state for majority of the people for a whole generation or two. Nobody in mass media democracy will go for it without abolishing democracy itself.

So instead you either have politicians just going the easiest route or doing (next to) nothing at all. We are all waiting for the system to collapse under its own weight and tough luck! this means the western countries will likely repeat the Rhodesia fun again.

>>138025423
Based Poland. Explained it much better than I did.

>>138024268
Rape and terrorism are accepted on the altar of tolerance and globalism

>>138024254
>White men's sperm is the most requested sperm in the world at every fertilization clinic.
>Blue-eyed white males answer to about 92% of desired sperm.
Probably because only whites even bother with things like that in the first place. Niggers and spics just pop out kids en masse while gooks have some warped concept of shame.

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>>138025104
You must be kidding me

Refugees cost the people of the federal state Hessen 870 million € last year

And probably 80 billion (80.000.000.000€!!) in Germany overall and you worry about costs that would it take to make a fucking dish washer robot?? You could automate the half low qualified industry with that amount of money. How can you just think it's cheaper

>20-30 years
Wtf.. dude just..

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>>138025743

Yes, as I've said, third worlders just have sex and deal with the outcome that may be pregnancy, there's no planning when it comes to having a kid for these people.

But the idea that the dutch cuck was propagating about white women actively wanting kids of other races is false.
This is why I pointed out fertilization clinics and adoption.

Fertilization is a simple process of choosing the donor, and in 92 percent of cases, that donor is white, because his traits are desirable.
The other small percentage is gooks fertilizing gook children.


Trust me, I live in the third world, and white features are desired here to the point of being fetishized. No one actually wants nigger children, they just choose to not abort it when it actually happens.

>>138026040
Those are two different things. The costs for the refugees will be forcibly taken from the taxpayer or put onto the national debt regardless.

A 'fucking dish washer robot' would be a consumer product in a capitalist marketplace and would have to compete with dirt cheap minimum wage labour. In order to support mass production, there would have to be a very quick return on the initial investment.

>>20-30 years
>Wtf.. dude just..

These things spend a ton of time in development before being released as consumer product.

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>>138020651
More refugees is :
-> more rapes
-> more crimes
-> more terrorism
-> more poverty
-> more economic and social chaos
-> ...and more votes for those politicians who want to let them in

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>>138020651
She looks like an evil clown that eats children and entire worlds. Her argument is invalid.

>>138020651
>The European Union is not the cancer killing Euro-

>>138025423
The point is that mass immigration will not fix it and the structural change of the society is just a meme like it's a meme that there is immigration needed to "fix" that. It's not about the number of citizens you have rather about the MONEY they make to secure a good living for retired people.
You could have 5 people earning enough money to feed 10 old. It's just about money

>>138020651
kek, imagine if any of our national parliaments started spewing this kind of shit. where they get their legitimation from? EU overlords need all be put on a pile, have petrol poured on them and set alight.

>>138026472
>She looks like an evil clown that eats children and entire worlds.
That's because she is.

>>138022738
Rope yourself retard

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>>138024730
holy fucking christ it's all coming true, every word in that goddamn orwell book. it wasn't fiction it was bauplan.

>>138025423
Well fucking said. The it's the perfect storm of both the population trends fliping on their heads and the wrong form of governance being used to tackle the problem. But will there be a country to take the rains of it's own destiny and take the unpopular, long, and grueling route of making the majority suffer now so the future generations can still have a nation to live in?

Or will it just fall apart...

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>>138025277
>paying bills
But at the same time selling weapons?

>>138026577
You mean gold. Fiat money loses value from the second you touch it. If you saved "money" it's guaranteed that inflation will beat you back into poverty.

Always store value in gold, always ALWAYS. Jesus why is nobody listening to me.

>>138026765
Pretty sure that at least most Western nations currently dealing with this problem will just collapse and balkanize. Democracy is too weak to take actions against this shit, especially with a globalist media that already has the knife at their throat.

>>138026765
>Or will it just fall apart...

I'd give it 10 years before we see an economic collapse that spreads across all of Europe.

>>138026765
Why would anyone need to suffer? just free up the money supply.

>>138026318
Beside that you can easily import a dish washer machine instead of buy a low wage worker from Syria who does not have the quality of work and costs even more
Importing/ or buying a machine from your own market is something way different, you can't compare that

Also you could forcefully take that money to actually, as a taxplayer, gain sth from it and invest

The connection to high tech / knowledge and high qualified workers with capitalism is what made Germany so great after the war

>>138027041
At the end it's taxmoney that pays the bills for the wealth of old people. I haven't seen a Gramm of gold from my boss yet, you ??

>>138027041
You are probably right, I have currently around 40k euro just laying aorund, collecting dust, I was thinking about buying some share sbut I don't know enough about the markets to make a decent decission.

I guess gold sound like the most sensible choice.

>>138027124
I know I'm in one of the better countries to be considering this crisis, but I'm still scared(I actually live in Ireland currently to earn money).

>>138027144
Because messing around with currencies and their values always causes market crashes, even when both the supply and demand is there, the chaos caused by drastic measures taken will cause a lot of people to lose their savings and be unable to provide for their families.

>>138027135
I hope we have that much time.

>>138020651
this is fucking SCARY.. right after a terrorist attack they publish this shit? bruh

Migrants are lazy fucks, they rape and steal, they commit murder, and they don't integrate into modern western society. 2nd and 3rd generation migrants become radicalized and drive cars into crowds. Tell me how this is all good for European society?

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>>138020651

check out this propaganda from Deutschland

http://katapult-magazin DOT de/de/artikel/artikel/fulltext/warum-us-amerikaner-mehr-laecheln/

>>138027377
It was before the attack.

>>138022022
based waffles

>>138020651
she literally had demonic eyes.

>>138027164
If you really wanted this to happen quickly, a government COULD go Manhattan Project and massively invest in the research costs to make this technology viable in a real-world environment, invest in the manufacturing facilities required to produce it, and then begin to utilise it in state-run organisations and absorb any losses that naturally come with the large-scale adoption of a new and untested technology.

But that's obviously not going to happen.

>>138027450
Why is everything that starts with
>the study shows...
Complete bullshit or common known but there was not study for it yet

I imagine that is all what SJW Publish today

>>138020651
I've never understood the argument that we need to import people to keep our societies functioning. How about instead of importing large numbers of people from other cultures to artificially keep the system going we change the system to match the current conditions?

This whole issue is because of idiotic politicians and economists that have based all their models and ideas on a faulty premise (that population growth would be a constant) and because of that now they have to import people as a band aid for their idiocy.

>>138027365
>I was thinking about buying some share sbut I don't know enough about the markets to make a decent decission.

If you want to invest into the stock market, buy ETFs. They are insanely simple, so you don't really need to understand anything. Which also makes them pretty cheap because you don't need so much managing of your fonds. They are strongly diversified so the only way you'd really lose all of it long term is an economic collapse where almost all your investments would turn worthless anyway.

If you want some more physical investments that will always retain some rest value, gold is alright but don't put all of your money into gold. Diversify a bit by also buying stuff like ammunition, canned food, maybe some booze and so on.

Just be sure what you actually want. If you want a safe way to retain your wealth even in times of crisis, physical goods are good.
If you want to turn any profit from your investments, the stock market is way superior.

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>>138020651
Call X-COM...

>>138026577
Mass immigration from Eastern Europe worked pretty well, but it turned out to be not nearly enough. I think the intended scenario behind the mass immigration from Middle East and Africa is to go through a controlled collapse of various social assistance programs and force the freeloaders into the workforce. This scenario likely assumes that there will be riots over the country but they can be contained by force.

Also
>You could have 5 people earning enough money to feed 10 old
Yes, if it's only to feed them, without regards to housing or any "luxury" goods like spare clothes, not even talking about going to cinema or travelling the world. I wonder if the old people, who still can vote, would be happy about it.

>>138023055
>I think there are more men than women today in the West that want children
why? source?

>Women also control the dating market
what does this mean?

>>138027450
>too stupid to understand the difference between causation and correlation
Yup, sounds like Western media.

>>138020651
Time to crackdown on it...

EU = USSR 2.0
Undemocratic things happened. So any undemocratic or totalitarian case you find must be shared.
Shutting down MSM by EMP would work, even if it's illegal.
So the following things you can do to make redpilling easier is by:
remove the illusion/small picture from those who you know;
teach them that television is outdated and that it has only a cartel of mainstream media;
redpill them on the existence of alternative media and show them what makes alternative media more reliable.

And best: get them involved!

It's an interesting time we are living in.

You could bro-up with russians, instead you are turning your head towards decades of instability and assimilation of trash, which doesn't want to live by your laws and ideas.

I am eager to see when the migrants will start genociding all the queers you got there. That'll be fun to watch, enthusiasts of "integration" getting BTFO by their own project.

>>138020651

Stop taxing me then, cunt. I want kids, but it's expensive and governments steal most of my money while jacking up prices on everything to unsustainable levels.

Fuck off jews, I can't wait until the killing begins and I can start swinging your children into sidewalk curbs.

Western Europeans just need to go extinct.
They don't deserve to exist at this point.

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>>138027878
Thanks for the advice man, appreciate it. I'm pretty retarded when it comes to current markets. I've read my share of Hayek, Misses, Friedman, Smith, and so on, when I was younger, but I have no idea whatsoever about what is currently happening in the world markets.

I'll research the ETFs and see what I can get once I'm back in Ireland. Cheers!

>>138027687
Because the media is interested in exactly two things
>something outrageous that supports their agenda
>things that confirm people in their believes
That stuff brings in clicks and thus money, complicated articles about actual discoveries don't because most people wouldn't understand those articles (and they also don't want to pay a journalist who'd understand it to begin with).

The prime motivator for everything they do is greed. Even all the social friction and riots they intentionally provoke has no other motivation - reporting on some local festival brings no readership at all, reporting on a truck driving into the local festival lets your sales explode.

>>138028233
You cant hide behind an UK flag Ali

>>138027734
>How about instead of importing large numbers of people from other cultures to artificially keep the system going we change the system to match the current conditions?

The people who could change the system are leeches feeding on the system. For obvious reasons they have no intention to change anything about it, unless that change means even more money for them.

>>138028140
It's already happening, but mass media are not reporting it. LGBT outlets however do.

>>138028116
looks like there won't be alternative media for much longer though..

>>138020651
The black guy's contribution is to take pictures of other refugees, to make "refugees" an even bigger issue. No actual useful work, just more damage.

Typical. One of many reasons you don't let them in in the first place!

>>138028140
I'd take 10 ruskies over 1 mudslime and nigger any day of the week. There is a reason why poland is taking in so many ukranians instead of sand-niggers, they are supperior in pretty much every single way.

>>138027673
I just want the government to spent my tax in tech, education or infrastructure rather than wasting it for stupid morality goals to make them feel like they did sch good for humanity

>>138027929
>but they can be contained by force.

I would heavily question their ability to contain it. They knew months in advance about what would happen in Hamburg and concentrated all their resources there, yet it did shit all.
And that was nothing compared to what would happen in the case of a collapse.

If the current system collapses, every politician who doesn't manage to immediately flee the country will die.

>>138020651
No, you must be replaced.

http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm

>>138020651
So basically EU admits they just want refugees for worker slaves to keep their huge pensions going.

>>138028583
Well on that point anon, I think we can agree.

>>138027929
What useful work can they do to produce net positive value? We only need so many servers in restaurants, street sweepers, etc. And more of that will be robotized.

>>138028503
>implying you can chose whether you receive refugees

>>138028613
Imagine you have a shelf with an apple, you decide to put an orange next to it.
Did the orange replace the apple?

>>138028641
These people will never have high economic productivity. They may never be productive enough to exceed what they consume in daily maintenance from society.

So the argument about preserving the welfare state has got to be a fiction.

>>138028820
>implying we won't leave EU if they try to force us to take "refugees"

You have no idea how stuborn our current government is. They might be pretty retarded, but they at east have that going for them.

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>>138020651
>Top comments are fellow Dutchmen shitting on it
God bless this piece of swamp

>>138028820
The Poles so far have managed to choose to receive refugees or not. I hope they always can.

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>>138020651
HAHAHAHAHAHA
*breath in*
HAHAHAHAHAHHA

So, basically, you want more sandniggers who won't work, get free money, and kill you on weekends, but you decline entrance to almost all white people from other countries, who will work their asses off to live in europe? I wish nothing but more isis sandniggers to you, eurocucks, you deserve it.

>>138028938
EU cant force anything when it comes down to it.

>>138028609
It depends on your definition of "containment". The plan probably includes far less than you or the voters would like.

It's just my assumption though, the plan was conceived by people much smarter than me.

>>138028772
>>138028930
For a start, they can get into completely unsustainable debt and spend it all before the next economic crash.

>>138020651
>have kids
Problem solved.

>>138028820
You've ruined the environment on the shelf, diminished the orange's quality of life, and used up part of the remaining shelf.

>>138029100
>have kids
If only I could find a woman which isn't a whore and can cook...

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>>138020651

>we need migration
>but only from 3d world shitholes.

Why ?

>>138028503
Rzecz will rise again

>>138020651
Muslins are the only antidote for the white virus
I can't believe I'm saying this but, I love islam now!

>>138029167
Learn to cook. There I just made your problem easier.

>>138029001
The Poles didn't chose jack shit.
The population doesn't have a say in whether migrants come or not. The simple fact is those subhumans just avoid Poland because of its poor economic situation.
>>138028938
If you would quit the EU, your trade would be disrupted.
>>138029007
Are you Alb*ni*n subhuman?
>>138028979
Moge God de Nederlanden zegenen.

>>138029007
The general populace is against this. Our elite and leaders are evil. We need to purge the government

>>138029166
That's all true but besides the point, replacement is just a very poor term I believe.

>>138029087
Authorities could have easily prevented Hamburg riots or the refugee storm over borders. However they didn because Merkel is afraid about liberal media whining around. Specifically this happened during the refugee crisis.

German pol. establishment is horrified about the idea that germany could be even remotely associated by anything nazi, fascist or "right-wing".

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>>138029341
yeah, sure thing faggot
just because you are cuck supreme does not mean everybody is, you could decline relocations like we did, but deep down, you like taking it up your rectum

>>138029341
It's kinda simple really. Population elects leader. Leader represents their interests and rejects bad migrants.

It fails often, but what makes you think this can't happen?

>>138029346
Have you read the article with Herman De Croo in Knack last week?

>>138029296
I know how to cook, I love cooking. What I hate are slobs, like my sister for example. I'm not going ot be the only one in the house cleaning and cooking.

My sister leaves chaos and dirt everywhere she goes, pretty much never cooks, and thinks this is perfectly normal behaviour. And most of ther friends are like that too. It's terrifying.

>>138029258
Indeed it will.

>>138029341
>If you would quit the EU, your trade would be disrupted.
Definiely would, but unlike most countries in the EU Poland produces enough food and basic goods like toilet paper or medicine to be just fine with less trade with the west of europe. A nation can survive a few years without luxury electronics of colothes.

>>138029296
You just gave him another reason not to marry and find a woman, you idiot.

>>138029534
I just caught that he said we need to contain Africa's population

In the end it's all blablabla anon. VLD and Verhofstadt have caused our nation irreparable damage

>>138029420
Rather than having national policies to encourage childbearing by the people, you bring in other people and work your people harder to pay for THEIR support. Hence, replacement.

>>138029296
The problem isn't doing these chores - everyone who has been living on their own for an extended period should be capable of doing them.

It's just that there's really no point in having a partner who does absolutely nothing. In that case you can just go and fuck random whores from the club.

>>138029443
You think Merkel didn't want those refugees? Is it really all down to the German media?

>>138029509
>It fails often, but what makes you think this can't happen?

Discussing meaningful immigration controls makes any politician subject to continuous character assassinations by the media and more senior politicians.

Nige got screamed at for being a racist for just wanting a similar set of policies to Australia.

>>138029545
Well whatever you do, whether it's a clean or messy house, breed. After a few years the kids can help clean up, like back in our frontier days when young kids had to help with the work.

>>138029725
>You think Merkel didn't want those refugees?
Not in these amounts. The only thing Merkel wants is to stay in power. She thought she could virtue signal for a bit and then it's over.

Before all this shit, her party was on the best way to absolute majority and there was basically no opposition to her at all.
Now she can never again have a public speech without being shouted down by the crowd as traitor.

>>138029618
European political establishment has begun to believe in some sort of civic nationalism. They do believe that they can million of muslims into liberal europeans.
>>138029725
German media, NGOs, parties, liberals, (((pro-refugee groups)))... all were moaning around.

Final decision was up to Merkel however, and she thought letting the refugees in was the right and moral thing to do.

>>138029562
No, he didn't take it that way either.

>>138020651
Look at this cunt with her psychotic eyes, back in the day we would burn her as a which and have a party after.

>>138029870
I know, I know, you are absolutely right. I'm staying another year in Ireland to get majority of my shares from my current employer(fucking RSUs) and then I'm back in Poland, trying to start a business and a family, I just need some capital.

I've never been a ladies man, just a nerd that focused on his studies and work, but now that I've gotten a bit of a career going, I'm thinking more and more about starting a family. My reptilian brain is slapping the back of my head pretty much every day with "FUCKING BREED YOU USELESS MONKEY!".

>>138029668
I think it's not hard to find a girl, any particular color you want, that's better than that. But maybe her cooking is ramen noodles, so what? You don't go into a marriage knowing everything you will ever learn.

>>138029509
Leaders don't need to act in the interest of their population since they're not held accountable.

>>138029545
You handled 50 years of communism, I'm sure 5 years of economic disruption wouldn't break the Polish people either; but you need to realize that the economic elite have a huge impact on decision making, probably even bigger than the Polish popuplation. On top of that, it wouldn't be the first time a referendum on EU legislation would be ignored.


>>138029618
I guess the definition is kinda difficult but for me replacement is actively removing one element to
put another one there.

>>138029878
Well maybe she was on a mission pushed by those who had supported her career all along.

As our idiot president George W. Bush said, "Mission Accomplished". (a funny story if you don't know it.)

Europe is by far the most overcrowded continent, why do we need more people again?

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>>138029613
Het was veel erger, heb een screenshotje voor je gemaakt.

>>138029739
It seems that Poland is better in that way. Eastern Europe, the old seat of culture, is reasserting itself. Western Europe, the old barbarians who had a brief fun few hundred years, is going down.

whites cant have kids because the jews have made it impossible to afford them
shitskins dont give a fuck about being welfare and are actually encouraged to have as many kids as possible and the welfare will pay for them

its as simple as that

>>138030407
Hij lijkt me echt zo'n kneus die niemand teveel wilt kwetsen behalve blanken.

>>138030460
Why do you think Eastern Euros arent barbarians?
>>138030530
How much does the average Austrialian earn and how much is welfare?

>>138030162
Well done. Once you come back with the $$ and start to look a little established, you'll be surprised what a ladies' man you've become. Be selective, know that if you turn down one there will be more.

>>138030308
>but you need to realize that the economic elite have a huge impact on decision making, probably even bigger than the Polish popuplation
You're right, one should never understimate their enemy. But polish people are stubborn by nature. We have this very old saying:

>Zastaw się, a postaw się.

Which essentially translates to: "overspend, but build up", through that's not the only reading, it could also mean, "go into debt, but show off", and others too. But in essence it means polish people will take future hardship over showing weakness now or take future frugality over showing current poverty.

>>138022885
>>138023287

Came in to post this. I really can't get my head around it. The same people that push for more immigration to fill low-skill jobs are the same that say we need a universal basic income because automation will do away with low-skill jobs.

So we're importing people to do jobs that won't exist and add to the already sizeable number of people that will still have no solution for.

>>138030591
you can live comfortably on welfare if you have kids because the more kids you have the more welfare you get
i dont know what the average aussie earns
you have to define average
to me the average aussie is a traide and traiders can make 60-120k a year

>>138029887
So ... she was wrong and a traitor. "Right and moral" what a load of crap. She did this to the people without giving them the choice.

>>138020651
ah yes more leeches on the wellfare system so i can work 10 years longer, go on a 5 year pension and then die.
Thanks refugees.

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>>138030407
This is just nauseating. That old hag needs to shut the fuck up

I don't know if you have noticed but I think the media, politicians and university professors are preforming coordinated attacks on us (Flemish and whites in general). It's the same mechanism time and time again:

>1/ something happens abroad, in the US mostly (like the statue removal)
>2/ journalist report on it and mildly suggest we must do the same thing in Europe
>3/ they interview a marxist professor that attaches a pseudo-scientific explanation to it
>4/ in the meantime a politician makes a proposal too
>5/ two weeks of debate and marxist shitstorms
>6/ weird marxist proposal from the US gets pushed through, against the will of the population (who gives a shit about some fucking statue of Leopold II??)

Another scenario:

>1/ right winger says something
>2/ media twist his words and suggest the opposite
> step 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

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>>138020651
Europeans built Europe so why do we need migrants now?
We are moving more and more into an automated future so dont say workforce and dont say doctors and engineers, less than 1% of the people coming have that bakgrund and the rest are just free loathers.
Why not just import that 1% and say fuckoff to the rest?.
As it looks now we are just importing people for the sake of importing and to look good to the rest of the world.

>>138028930
But I believe politicians are in fact THAT dumb

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>>138021475
>>138021747
>That guy holding the mic is the kike that said it's good Germans are dying out right? "

thinking emoji

>>138030737
>The same people that push for more immigration to fill low-skill jobs are the same that say we need a universal basic income because automation will do away with low-skill jobs.

It's because of democracy. The guy who gathers the most votes on himself will rule.
The one who will gather the most votes on himself is the one who manages to pander to every target audience at once.

It's why politics is full of shitcunts who are perfectly aware that their solution will never work but also don't give a shit as long as they get their fat wage.
People who propose actual solutions don't get elected into office because actual solutions mean that someone won't get it their way (they won't get it their way anyway but that's not what matters anyway, what matters is what they believe when they cast their vote).

For example, Merkel is promising to improve inner security on the one hand but also to keep the borders open on the other right now.
That doesn't work, that shit is inherently incompatible. Either you close down the borders and start sorting this mess out, or you keep them open and stop giving a fuck about national security, but you can't have it both.

>>138030585
Herman De Croo is van de VLD, dezelfde partij als Verhofstadt. VLD zijn liberalen (combo van D66 en VVD) maar zijn echt de grootste politieke opportunisten ooit.

Herman De Croo spuit nu die zelfhatende links-liberale onzin omdat het in de mode is. 10 jaar geleden was dit nooit uit zijn mondriool gekomen

Guy Verhofstadt stond in de jaren '80 bekend als baby-Thatcher, vormde in 2000 een duivelse coalitie met de sossen en de groenen om premier van België te worden. Nadien veranderde hij in een rabiaat eurofiel omdat hij door had dat hij er flink munt uit kon slaan

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>>138031033
>to look good to the rest of the world.
And that begs the question: WHAT rest of world? Who is being one-upped here? Do the Chinese high command sit there in tears thinking "if only we make food grow better we could import useless africans too"?

More's the point, what is happening to Africa while NGOs and euro-commies drain it of people? The ones we see are the more capable ones, which doesn't bode well for those left behind at all.

>>138030645
You're most probably right, but that's the thing, you have to weed out the gold diggers. And considering how little experience I have with women, I'd be probably easilly wooed into submittion by a sweet-acting calculating gold diggers.

I guess that's what I guet for being a shy nerd when I was young.

>>138029887
>They do believe that they can million of muslims into liberal europeans.
I would be ok with it (and it's eventual, obvious failing), but they should try it in the countries of those muslims.
Something like Americans and their "promotion of democracy" in Middle East - it failed spectacularly, but at least most of the fallout didn't reached US.

>>138031004
The best one of those was some asshole Labour MP suggesting the evil Russians might have hacked Brexit. Yep, a pencil and paper ballot vote.

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>>138021898
Here´s how I think it is, when a nation reaches it peak performance and smart and effective people are at an all time high, people start putting work in front of having children and families, like Japan.
The Government see a decline in birthrates and the solution in their eyes are to import people that do nothing else than have children, +10 per family -lesser standing people, like Africans, arabs etc.
That will even it all out.
But what happens when the lesser people overtake the more evolved ones?

>>138022674
>nobody wants to work so called shitty jobs
When will this meme end? There are people working 2-3 shitty jobs just to make ends meet. It's not the working population its the faggots trying to fill their own pockets by trying to pay people less.

>>138031438
>"promotion of democracy" in Middle Eas
That might have been bullshit code for "give us all your resources" rather than actual attempts to civilize them.

This whole fucking migration shit is just.. well, shit at the end of the day.

They're just fags who'll change our nations for the worse because some other faggots are taking their homes. Yo USA, take your refugees.

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>>138031472
They're not even trying their best anymore.

My post was referring to the statue removals in the US because in consequence a microscopically small group of lefties suggested we should remove the statues of Leopold II and other heroes of Europe

>>138031004
>>138031472
This shit about them constantly trying to use US fringe politics drama as a precedent is annoying as fuck. I cannot turn on the radio anymore without some cunt bitching about Trump and saying how Nazi LARPers in the US mean we need to crack down on every single non-globalist in Germany.

Fuck off, it's two entirely different countries with entirely different histories and entirely different motivations.

>>138031552
>its the faggots trying to fill their own pockets by trying to pay people less.

also, the faggots trying to fill their own pockets by working less (ie. academia, journos, gender-studies ecosystem, etc.)

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>>138031707
Yep. Trump leads our corporate news every day, too. It's almost as if there are only 40 journalists left on Earth - all stationed in liberal outlets in the USA - and the rest just sit by the AP feeder and press Copy-Paste.

Trump has nothing at all to do with the UK, even given the historical link between our two nations.

>>138031004
Ja mij is eenzelfde patroon al opgevallen dat bepaalde visies uit de VS omtrent rassenrelaties gekopiëerd worden naar hier.
Is het jou ook opgevallen hoe sommige kranten steeds vaker wit gebruiken i.p.v zwart?
Ik herinner me na de heisa in de VS over de zogenaamd te blanke oscars, dat er hier ook een gelijkaardige hashtag is geweest.
Ik geloof wel niet dat de gemiddelde Vlaming hier (al?) voor openstaat.
http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20160131_02100987

>>138031552
Pretty much. No one can convince me that they wouldn't find anyone willing to do these jobs when every city is crowded with people digging through trash cans in hope of finding some bottles with deposit on them.
Mopping the floor at the local supermarket is way less degrading, not any more exhausting and pays better.

The only reason they want illegals is because it's easier to exploit them.

>>138031520
It is another speciation event

The people with foresight and the ability to see the errors in liberalism shoot every single one of then in the head and inherit the earth

We evolved beyind niggers when we survived the winter holocaust

We will evolve beyond europeans when all the liberals are dead

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>>138031316
I dont know man, you tell me, they probably sitt and suck each other off at the EU meetings
>Wow, everyone look at Sweden! He took in 85k immigrants, what a guy!

and then our government can sit there and look all smug and high and mighty whilst the country is burning down in the background.
What a fucking joke we are

>>138022811
man, thanks for this

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>>138031316
Also, I dont thing Africa is gonna get drained of people anytime soon, As of now there are 1.2 billion Africans and that shit is just beginning to take off.

>>138032021
Dat van die rassenrelaties en het gebruik van 'witheid' valt echt op. Copycats.

Vlamingen moeten er idd niet van weten maar ze zijn bezig aan een psy op om dat gedachtegoed aanvaardbaar te maken. Doen ze o.a. via de universiteiten en de pers

Hoe het ook zij, de msm is op dit moment één van de grootste vijanden van de Vlaming

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>>138032625
Better pic

>>138032031
>The only reason they want illegals is because it's easier to exploit them.

Can vouch, with abundant low-skill workers, they can abolish the minimum wage altogether and pay these people scraps. So much for white europeans migrating westwards for a better life... Right now, they are content with even the minimum wage because it is still 3-4x what they would earn at home. Of course if you have lived and worked outside for years now, you realize that with min wage you only get to get-by. Housing prices are insane, a 2 room apartment is being advertised for 200k...fuck off.
Once the minimum wage gets abolished or lowered, third worlders will take over most jobs and the real struggle for well-paid positions will begin among the white folk.

>>138032625
>>138032792
Man, that drop for Africa's population will be so brutal once their population outgrows the West's ability to sustain it through aid.

>>138020894
>>138021167
We pay women to have babies in Poland.
Thanks, based Catholic Socialist regime.

>>138032792
Isn't that prediction predicated on continued European/US assistance? If the EU collapses us all into another crisis era, or there's a civil war in the States, I think that red nightmare prediction might just collapse into next-to-nothing.

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>>138024191
This is the kind of people we're dealing with: soulless, spiritless animals with no reason, dignity or honour.

>>138033229
Socialism is nihilism, just dressed up better.

>>138021573
>>138021603
I therefore announce that i will personally look after the German people with the exclusion of braindead libs and coal burners.

We'll use Eugenics and Surrogacy to revive the German race.

>>138031606
That too, but Americans really believe in the whole "democracy building" scheme of theirs, because it brings them profit.

In newly democratic, free-market small country, American corporations always have upper hand, since they are experienced, wealthy and big.

So Americans ARE actually interested in promoting democracy and free market, since it brings them even more wealth.

>>138033112
Yes, which is why these predictions are all bullshit. They always have some famine or disease outbreak, and the only reason it doesn't bring them down to 1950's population levels again is because Western countries take care of it. The African countries themselves are incapable of doing so.

And taking care of one African in Europe is insanely more expensive than taking care of an African in Africa.
The longer they keep the borders open, the sooner we won't be able to sustain their population growth anymore. And they sure as hell can't do it themselves.

>>138020894
>We need Universal basic income because automation will destroy all our jobs in the coming future!!!

>We need poor, stupid immigrants to fill jobs!!!

>>138033462
Maybe that's the globalist plan? Re-wild Africa and subjugate Europe with one stone? I wouldn't put it past them, they are beyond genocidal now.

We were lucky, this is a relatively small island with no allusions to "being European" so the effects of the EU were felt quickly and couldn't be handwaved with some sort of "common good" plattitudes. Others in Europe are vast, and have a proud history of socialism. They're fucked.

>>138032921
Do I need only one between adblock and ublock?

>>138034022
I really don't think that there's any coherent plan behind this, because there is no faction that would get any real long term gain from it.

It's just a mix of incompetent politicians afraid of the media and greedy cunts who see the chance to make some short term gains by taking advantage of the situation.

>>138028820
Imagine an apple tree, then you plant an orange tree next to it and the orange tree takes all the nutrients out of the ground that would normally be taken by the apple, causing the apple tree to start to wither.

Is the orange tree replacing the apple tree?

>>138028583
>I've still never received a satisfactory response regarding how autonomous the robot was while performing these tasks (versus teleoperated), so I'd love for someone to chime in!

You have no idea about tech. Those robots that empty the dishwasher are controlled by men. They don't do it on their own.

Making a robot do stuff ON IT'S OWN is what's hard. It's the brains that is hard. We have never managed to figure that out, and it's been a long time ai has been a thing.

20-30 years is actually a good estimate desu, britbong was right.

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>>138022115
>We send satilites to mars but unable to make a roboter for simple tasks ? Srs?

Yes.

Any task that involves a degree of physical dexterity is difficult to engineer and not really economical (when even an idiot can do it).

Calculation and data analysis? Bring on the robots. Physical work? We're still going to be using people for decades to come.

That's why it's accountants that need to be worried about machines, not plumbers etc.

>>138033416
>That too, but Americans really believe in the whole "democracy building" scheme of theirs, because it brings them profit

Yes this is a retarded aspect of our culture that seems to have popped up in the early 19th century. Ever heard the Battle Hymn of the Republic? The lyrics are pretty fucking crazy when you listen to them but one gets a sense of New Englander and Philadelphian sentiment at the time

Even when we're doing shady shit if we frame it as some political revolution stuff we can get away with it

>>138034424
That's a weak apple tree. Sounds like it had inferior characteristics that, when placed into fair competition, ensured its defeat and removal from the gene pool.

>>138034670
Honestly this is how I would want my waifu robot to act.

>>138034670
>Any task that involves a degree of physical dexterity is difficult to engineer and not really economical (when even an idiot can do it).

Only when you just want to put a robot on the workplace that was designed for a human. When you specifically design the work environment for the robot most of your problems evaporate.

What your webm shows is the equivalent of putting a humanoid robot in front of a keyboard to process speech to text rather than just having it directly interface with the hardware.

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>>138020651
ah the glory of the comment section so beautiful.
Please contribute to it for me guys. Im banned from twitter
Pic related

>>138034837
Like a drunk Russian?

>>138031004
then you realize: that right winger? planted by the left

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>>138034751
Now imagine the orchard owner with a contract to grow apples deliberately planting fifty orange trees around the apple tree because they've scared of that the Gardening Council will accuse them of monoculture. Or they've been paid a backhanded by the OJ Corp via the Peeled Fruit Preservation NGO.

>>138034917

Yes but the entire workplace then needs to be "on-rails", so to speak which limits what you can do. Any sort of work that requires physical improvisation of any kind - manual dexterity, the creation of ad-hoc solutions etc. - immediately rules out the use of robots. Wiring a house, for example, isn't a difficult task once you know what you're doing but it's easier, simpler and cheaper to just ask a Polish guy to do it rather than develop a machine.

That's why the people at risk are those that sit at desks every day, not the guys who work with their hands.

>>138033020
you just had to go ahead and give me an erection, didn't you?

>>138035275
Not entirely correct, even the people performing actual work rather than just filling spreadsheets are at risk of being replaced with robots. They'll probably just go for "only" automating 90% of the workflow and letting the remaining 10% still be handled by humans because for now it's too expensive to automate those tasks, too.

I don't need hundreds of people sorting the post at the office. I only need one machine and maybe 2-3 guys who take care of those letters the machinery spits out as unreadable.

I don't need hundreds of lab workers brute-forcing some new drug, I only need a couple chemists thinking about the most promising approach and then telling the robot what to do.

I don't actually need anyone to drive the truck, I just need some warehouse worker unloading it and handing the goods off to the warehouse robot.

And so on and so forth. We won't hit 100% automation for quite a while but the amount of human workload required could easily be diminished by quite a lot.

>>138035154
Too bad that the apple tree kept failing when all it ever had to do was produce three or four more apple trees every generation. Instead it decided to die childless and alone, surrounded by its avocado toast and Vitamixers and porn, and the orange trees took over because they did not squander their lives.

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>how refugees can inspire us all

They've inspired me, I also want to escape from my home country to somewhere safer.

>>138035796
>harvest the apples every season and shred them to turn them into fertilizer for the orange trees
>"It's the apple trees own fault!"

Just remove welfare and then see how the society will develop.

>>138034751
forgot to mention the farmer only waters the orange tree while salting the apple tree

>>138035887

> runs when he can fight

we dont need you anyway

>>138035887
Kek.
In all seriousness, I give it 15-20 years before Europe really starts burning

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And Euroweenies on here still wonder why we left MUH EUROPA UNION lmao

>>138034923
Inspired Spain pretty good today already
>damnson.jpg

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>>138036090
Nigga it's even worse in your country

>>138036029
What the fuck are you doing to """fight""" ? Belgium is further in the shit than Britain and literally at the centre of the EU jewry.

Please, englighten me on how I can fight when the government has taken away all my assault spoons and tactical breadknives.

>>138020894
are you fucking retarded?

There is NOT a single evidence in the history of the WORLD that any White country suffered underpopulation, there IS TODAY evidence of overpopulation.


Children cost Money you fucking abbo halfbreed.


So more people=lesser living standard.


No evidence of that there was no unemployement or shortage of hospital personal back then, no matter what "baby boom" which is a fraudelent term, its only slight increase in people.


No evidence crisis back then, no reason this babyboom would be different hugely, people had to have 10-20 Babies EACH FAMILY for it to be a dent since you dont take into account the 2 generations AFTER the babyboomers.


you DONT solve unemployement with more people thats MORE unemployement.


We need LESS people, even IF we were just all White nation.
Thats why low populated countries have HIGHER LIVING STANDARD.


Its basic, not advanced but BASIC FUCKING MATH.

A country is a certain amount of lenght of miles, you can grow certain lenght of food in a time period on it.

X tons of food
population of 10 million needs this much food each day/year.

more people, less lenght to grow food when its so much people.

hell even if you could build Buildings as tall as you want, the population demand for food would increase until you have to BUY OUTSIDE which lowers the living standard since you cant produce it yourself.

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>>138036227
t. Butthurt Yuropoor still mad we left his union of tolerance, Kalergi and Islam

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>>138027926
Hello, commander. Rest assured this... misguided symphatizer of the alien menace are not going to exist for long. I'm definitely not the minister of the Interior of Italy, by the way.

>>138035904
That's a good point. Welfare is the biggest draw for refugees and the biggest thing keeping American orange trees from ever blossoming into productive citizens.

>>138024254
Hello monkey!
> White men's sperm is the most requested sperm in the world at every fertilization clinic.
The most requested between WHITE people. And white people more than others have reproducing problems.
> Blue-eyed white males answer to about 92% of desired sperm.
Among arab, asian and african families also?

> The world is full of niggers and spics and gooks not because most of them are planned for years before being conceived, but because third world people breed indiscriminately and don't care for consequences.
And they're breeding really well.
> Here in Brazil white orphaned children usually don't last a day at a orphanage while brown children spend their whole childhood at one.
Because white people have money for a white childo.
> So take your cuck fantasies elsewhere.
Take your monkey fantasies elsewhere. If in 1st world countries niggers, spics and gooks will be dominant - white children will be rarity, but it doesn't mean they will be popular between above-mentioned scum, they just will end their existence by time just like rare species of birds or animals.
And you can choose between continue with your cuckoldry denial or start to fight for white race existence.

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>>138036462
No not butthurt at all. I wish you the best of luck but you're in no position to laugh.

>>138036296

London is worse than any other place in Europe. I literally barely saw white people last time I went there.

What im doing to fight? Not nearly enough. But im not gonna run when shit hits the fan like youre implying. Also theres plenty of ways to get weapons even in Europe, noob

>>138025423
- it's not an impossible riddle to solve


no it isnt you dumb polish fuck, no wonder poles are so fucking stupid.


more population=more demand for food, or NEED, since its a BASIC need.
Unless there is evidence NO unemployement in each professions thats a NECESSITY in the history of said country where no special event occured, then there is no fucking evidence then or now.


There is evidence NOW that there is OVERPOPULATION, not just africa who is shitty niggers, but india who is shitty too, literally, and asia like china, overpopulation=bad living standard for majority.