Is abortion right or wrong?

>>138018090
Was the fetus her body?

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>>138018090
This isn't a hard concept

>>138018090

>her body.

The baby is not her body. It is genetically different to her. It is someone else's body.

She already did what she wanted with her body. That's how she became pregnant in the first place.

>>138018090

No, it violates the NAP. The baby is a person, or would be. So it's a consequence of being stupid, should've thought of that beforehand.

Women are in the uniquely privileged position of being able to temporarily harbor another person inside them. If women want to retain all rights to their bodies, then close legs and don't get fucked. Baby = responsibility. Either wield it responsibly, or men will wield it for women. Murdering a forming person is irresponsible. Unless medical complications arise, abortion should be illegal because women always have the option to never get pregnant.

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>>138018090
It's not her body though, it's someone else's.

>>138018090
It should only be legal in the first couple of months of pregnancy

>>138018090
well i'm kind of torn because on the one hand murdering babies and shit but on the other you're here

I am for killing babies in every form.

lmao I love how the same assholes that want to lock these women down with a single sexing via babies are the same men's right activists that bitch about their paternity rights and having to pay child support because she never loved you yet respected your wishes when you told her to keep the baby, thinking you'd get married.

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>being fat while pregnant

That should be illegal too desu

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7 weeks pregnant women and their friends the women want to keep the baby
>Oh my god its a miracle! I am literally carrying a small person inside me!
>wow that's so cool, can i touch it
>wow that's amazing, you're going to be such a great mom
>women are amazing! Only we can create life like this!


17 weeks pregnant women and their friends when they don't want to keep it
>its just a lump of cell, i am going to abort i.
>that's right girl, your body your choice
>you go girl, fuck being a mother, focus on your career
>yeah your awesome, don't be a slave to the patriarchy.

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>>138018678
you're gone then

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>>138018090
Abortion is the 1 thing keeping the nigger population down.

>>138018090
An abortion will mindfuck any women and as a result they will become feminist liberals.

>>138018090
I think abortion is bad. there are dozens of anticonceptive methods so i assume anyone whos not a rape victim is a murder fetishist

Whose body it is has nothing to do with it. Most people shouldn't breed anyways. Stop giving poor people money to have babies, and start giving them money *not* to.

Most of you are so focused on punishing women for having sex you dont realize how much not-blown-out-by-childbirth pussy youd be pulling in a world where people werent so touchy about abortion.

>>138018816

Fuck man, I was pro-abortion before I read about the NAP.

>>138018090
It depends on the person getting the abortion. If the right people get abortions, it has a eugenic effect, and that's good. Morality is more complex than just "life" vs. "not life." Some life is not desirable to have around - just look at the murder convicts inside of a prison. Now imagine if many of them had been aborted instead.

>>138018177
>>138018491
Nobody has an obligation to keep someone else's body inside their body as far as I know

if it is a dirty little muslim or a monkey its more than just ok

>>138018090
Didn't realize female bodies could create babies on their own. I was anti-abortion before that, but I've changed my opinion now.

>Ugly liberal bish is happy she's getting an abortion
So am I.

>>138018090
Who else /pro abortion, anti choice/ here?

>>138018090
Baby is different person.
"Aborting" him is no different from murder. Both "doctor" and "mother" should receive death penalty for this act.
Sage for retarded bait thread.

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Only care about abortion for non white babies. Lol

>>138019048
>Nobody has an obligation to keep someone else's body inside their body as far as I know
Then don't stick parts of a male body inside you in the first place.

Dipshit

>>138019048
Nobody has the right to kill humans as far as I'm aware of. How do we solve this dilemma, comrade?

>>138018090
By engaging in intercourse a woman consents to give birth to any life which may result from said intercourse

This isn't a difficult concept

I actually don't mind abortion that much since the women who abort are likely to be complete trash if they're willing to kill their own child and wouldn't be able to raise their kid right anyway. I object to it in principle however.

>>138019076
An ugly liberal bitch could in theory give birth to a soldier of the white race in the coming race war, or even the leader in that race war

>>138018862
>300,000 white babies aborted that year alone.

>>138019119
anyone who is a feminist or otherwise below 90 IQ must be made to abort their baby

>>138018427
This reply can close the thread, the have the PRIVILEGE and the RESPONSIBILITY to take care of human being giving life. You literally can give life and you waste it with complaints bc you wanna be a bitch who doesn't use fucking precautions and so you kill som1 for what? Girls have the possibility to do something great in their life like giving life and running an healthy family but no they need to destroy everything and then give the fault to men.
Human race is really guilty for his behavior... We will pay for not taking care of weak but taking advantage of them.

>>138018090
Depends on the color of the baby

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>>138018090
>her body.
>infant
>not her body
see how stupid you are?

>>138018090

i think it is good but not something to be proud of and to brag about.

>>138019155
Good thing fetuses are not human from legal stance, huh?

>>138018090
This is very simple: Ban abortion for whites and make it compulsory for non-whites and race-mixed fetuses.

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>>138019198
>I actually don't mind abortion that much since the women who abort are likely to be complete trash if they're willing to kill their own child and wouldn't be able to raise their kid right anyway. I object to it in principle however.
BUT THEY WILL BRING DOWN JUDGEMENT ON ALL OF US!

REEEEEEE

>>138018090
WRONG
I was thinking to abort but I after watching the pregnancy process I couldnt do it and I wont need it because the bitch wasn't pregnant
WEW LAD 2 months

>>138018816
What the FUCK!

Only white people abort and use condoms btw
Really makes you think

>>138019259
Legal stance? Isn't that something we get to decide in a discussion just like this one? Laws are there to be rewritten. Science says it's a human. Same way dog fetus is very clearly 100% dog.

Eugenics, also fuck kids

>>138018177
>>138018317
>>138018825

>Users of abortion
>Be against the most effective form of eugenics in work in society.

Fucking logic man

Also this
>>138018862
>>138019076

>>138019048
>Russian defending abortion
I am shocked
Also they created it. They volunteered for the situation unless they were raped (vast majority of abortions are not from rape.)
If I say "hey man wanna go for a ride" then you get in my car I am obligated not to intentionally run us into a tree at full speed killing you, and it's not my right to do so just because it's my car.
I won't deny abortion has certain eugenic benefits, but it totally nullifies a natural consequence of being a filthy whore, and until we allow natural consequences for being a filthy whore, women will never stop being filthy whores.

Also until these cunts stop mutilating male infants the "my body my choice" argument has no weight.

>>138018090
think about chance.
You got the chance to be the egg that got fertalized. You got the chance to attach to the womb, to gestate, to be here. Would you have wanted your mother to scrape you away cuz she wasn't ready? I'm not religious or anything but really, I am glad I got the fucking chance to live

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>>138019253
what sort of shitpost is this?

>>138018090
west Eu dies because of liberals like u, hope ur happy

>>138018626
murderer.

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>>138019295
Ah, yes. I was going to mention how that view differs significantly from mentally unstable Christkikes who follow doctrine blindly.

>>138019559
>ferta
kill me

>>138019475
Yeah better to be born into krushcheby slum and spend the rest of your days in misery.

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>>138019666
why has kek forsaken me

>>138018090
>flag
checks out

>>138018090

Women
>right
>do whatever
>her

>>138019295
Living through the Trials and Tribulations sounds pretty rad, honestly. It would sure beat the boredom. What if I choose to not have faith on purpose so I can actually have meaning to my life? I don't see how this would be bad. Besides, I think it is a test that I, and most people here deserve.

>>138018090
good, dont want that downy antifa subhuman to reproduce anyway

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>>138018090
Meh-tier b8, you could have done better, 4/10 at best.

>>138018090
Saved my life from hell. I'm all for abortion.

Don't stick your dick in crazy

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>>138018090
I think abortion should be mandatory for race mixers, brown people, single moms and communists.

It's not like we are running out of people, and if we closed the borders we would not be replaced.

>>138019688
Yes, being poor is better than being dead. Are you proposing we kill all the poor people to put them out of their misery?

>>138018090
It's right when you're a non-white or a leftist.

>>138018090

The modern woman has public urinals for vaginas and graveyards for wombs. Damn sexy.

>>138018090
Guaranteed that every religious conservatard virgin ITT shrieking about the ebils of abortion is a frantic, compulsive fapper, murdering gorillions of innocent jizzums every day. They could be donating to a fertility clinic, but they choose to commit mass-murder instead.

>>138019617
Notice how "Atheist" is conveniently not on there

>>138019834
>snuffing out my unborn child's life saved my life from hell

I hope you can at least recognise how selfish and immoral you are.

Abortion kills alot of non white babies here in the U.S. it's a small percentage compared to all the blacks and hispanics. So maybe it's a good thing lol

>>138018626
Or in the case of GW Bush, no later than the 288th trimester.

>>138019617
>only jews believe in karmic rebalance and that murder is wrong
wew lad

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>>138018816

I was expecting that chink to squash the chinklet between her fingers. I am disappoint.

>>138018090
>her body

And what about the other body that's inside her with its own heart and brain and fingers and toes, the one that depends on her to protect and feed it? You think she has the right to do whatever she wants to THAT body? At what point does infanticide become unacceptable and why isn't that immediately upon conception?

>>138019846
You're onto something.

>>138019834
>Saved my life from hell. I'm all for abortion.
Your life, not your soul.

Repent now

>>138018759
Holy cannoli I'm triggered. What kind of fucking adult gets something with sprinkles? They are stupid and not tastey.

legal for non-whites
illegal for whites
either way, the government shouldn't pay for it

>>138018090
Having a right to do something != being good
They should be free to do whatever they want - but society should shame them for being irresponsible sluts

>>138018090
I want to see her smirking so sardonically at the Judgment to come.

>>138019846
Yes

>>138020114
Do you repent every time you rub one out?

>>138018090
Objectively wrong because it ruins the woman on a biological level.
Evolution happens much more rapidly than most think it does.
Due to abortion rates being increasingly frequent females bodies have been triggering attempts at premature births more and more leading to a weaker people and eventually a societal collapse

>>138019155
Actually you do have the right to kill someone if they pose a credible threat to you or others around you. In Burgerland at least.

>>138020201
>a sperm cell is the same as a fetus

This isn't even an argument

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>>138018090
Liberals kill their own offspring like it's a trophy, at least it keep their population down.

>>138020173
Yes, yes, the world needs more shame. Shame is good for us.

>>138018090
I'm usually pretty neutral on the question of abortion, I don't like it but women who did this would have been bad mothers, so...

This picture triggers me though, abortion isn't supposed to be a happy thing, no matter of your stance.

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>>138019215
>liberal bitch could in theory give birth
More likely its a half nigger fighting for the other side.

>>138018090
Illegal for whites unless it's a rape baby, downie or some other kind of retard.
Legal for non whites.

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>>138020184
There is no judgment, champ. Hell is fake. Your little god is fake too. Sorry about that.

>>138020262
Was Onan not killed by God for spilling his semen on the ground?

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>>138018090

Isn't it funny how all those who support abortion happen to have not been aborted themselves?

>>138018090
Free abortions for ethnic and sexual minorities.
No, scratch that. Gibmedats for abortion for ethnic and sexual minorities.

>>138018816
Disgusting yet kinda cute. The kinda cute where it's very shot lived.

>>138020262
>a fetus is the same as a person

This isn't even an argument.

See how easy that is?

>>138018090
How is murdering a baby "doing what she wants with her body"? She is doing things to the body of another person, not her own.

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>>138019925
Who ever said I was an atheist f a m?

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>>138018090

>>138018090

Abortion is good, because this way the psychopaths and similar scum offs itself of the genepool

>>138020355
Delicious baby penis blood and also probably an infection for the child. Who invented this shit?

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>>138018090
its 100% okay to abort if you dont want a child, cant afford one or just have other plans for the next years.
a 6 weeks old fetus is not a person and shouldnt have rights.

>>138020599
Religiotards

>>138020411
From a personal point of view, yes, I would have liked to be aborted because of my selfishness. But God has chosen me to bear this burden of a life and I shall.

>>138020383
You will see. God is forgiving, you only have to repent. I have been an atheist too at 14.

>>138020456
A sperm cell is a non-sentient device for carrying genetic material. It's little more than an organic machine, designed to do one job.

A fetus is a developing human.

This is really basic stuff.

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>>138018759
Saw a friends disgusting fat cow of an ex do this on my normiebook feed when she was pregnant.
>i am eating for to now :P
>i am pregnant so i can eat like this :D:D
>a meal for two
tons of post like that combined with pics of disgusting processed fast food, snacks and ice cream.

lo and behold she gave birth to an autistic genetic failure with more health problems then fake chink iphone. Now she is doing regular post on how hard it is to be a single mother to a child that has to go to the hospital all the time and how much medicine he needs.

Some people are fucking retarded, if there is one time in your life when you should eat healthy its when you are with child. Seriously, if you guys can't find a based red pilled gf then just settle for a leftist hippie chick that is at least red pilled on shit like processed food, BPA and chemicals.

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>>138020262
>It's going to be a human life
>if NASA finds semen on Mars they will declare it to be a life
>Why should it differ on Earth?

>>138020712
What a coincidence, I'd really prefer if you were aborted too

>>138020262
>And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 8And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. 10And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

God gets mad if you spill your seed, he's killed over it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ

>>138020411
>Isn't it funny how all those who support abortion happen to have not been aborted themselves?
Hey I'm the type of person to press the close door button on an elevator even if I'm pretty sure it doesn't do anything.

https://twitter.com/juniperangelica

lol

>>138020456
Life was never about arguments, but about feelings. Man is not a robot.

>>138020841
Rude. Why? Because of my beliefs? It seems that 70 years of communism have worked out well there, uprooting Orthodoxy.

>>138020750
>ex
>single mother
Is you(r friend) nigger?

>>138018090

Abortion is murder. Women who try to get abortions belong in prison.

>>138020759

If they find sperm cells on Mars then there is life yes, whatever created those sperm cells, if you leave a fetus in a living womb it will develop into a child, if you leave a sperm on the ground it'll die and not develop past a single celled organism.

Not very hard Pitor.

>>138018090
Wrong. Why do you think soros is funding pro abortionists here? The jews want less whites to be born.

>>138021043
If you leave fetus on the ground it'll die too

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>>138021043
>if you leave a fetus in a living womb it will develop into a child,
>if you leave a sperm on the ground it'll die and not develop past a single celled organism.
>if you leave a fetus on the ground it'll die and not develop past a multiple celled organism.

>>138020759
It's not human life. That's pretty basic biology, comrade. Cells of your skin are also alive, but they're not actually humans, they have a singular function. Sperm's function is to carry half of information you need to create a human. When sperm meets and egg, together they create human life. But individually they're just cells doing their specific jobs.

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>>138018177
in reality, the results of banning abortion aren't pretty
but given your flag, how should you know
keep living in your fantasy world where humans behave in your fantasy ideal way

>>138018090
So what happens when the fetus is female ? Does this unborn girl also have rights over her body ?

>>138020534
wtf i hate abortions now

>>138021186
If I live you on the ground, you'll die too. You need food, air and water to be somewhere around that ground. Are you sure you're human, bro?

>>138019917
>They could be donating to a fertility clinic, but they choose to commit mass-murder instead.

those clinics are very picky. they probably wouldnt let me donate my cummies because of my inferior genetics.

>>138019530
Want to know what is the critical problems with each side of the political spectrum and the solutions?
>right wing needs to learn to not cuck to whats deemed (((moral and ethical))) and stand up for whats objectively right
>left wing needs to learn how to be wrong and accept this
Heres how to tell the difference between right and wrong
>can you find an exploit to refute the statement?
Then it needs improvement until its irrefutable then guess what at that point people will agree with it.
You need to make sure the other person understand why theyre wrong though to successfully refute an arguement though
If that person understands why they are wrong but continues to push what they know to objectively be wrong then theyre most likely biologically brain damaged and should be put out of their misery

>>138020862
Why did God make it so that we get prostate cancer if we don't keep our pipes cleaned out then?

>>138021191
nah, that was a reference to the "Mars fallacy" which is obviously wrong but quite popular for some reason

>>138021191

You fuckin russian kike faggot, I wish I could find out where you live and slice your throat you fucking faggot.

Inbred russian crosseyed malnourished disgusting faggot.

>>138018090
abortion is good, eliminates retarded or disfigured and unable to live by themselves humans from society
also a few-week old fetus is not a human being

It's mostly leftists and minorities that get abortions, so I'm ok with it.

>>138018177
It's a parasite

>>138018932
Kys or breed

>>138021423
also abortion decreases national spendins on welfare

I'm fine with it as long as it's in early stages. Women getting abortions would probably make a shit parent. I wouldn't wish that life upon a child.

>>138021346
Oy vey, how did you know I was jewish, I'm being oppressed!

>>138021133
>>138021186

If you leave a sperm in the womb it will die and not turn into anything, the whole point is the fetus forms in the womb you fucking retard.

>>138021288
It's not God's problem if you can't get a gf

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>>138021288
Your supposed to marry young (like 13) and fuck your wife, three times a day. And have like 30 kids.

That's what god wants, a world overran with humans to the bursting point. That way more souls can be saved.

I am against abortion myself.

I'm not even religious either. In fact, I hate Christian fundies.

It doesn't make sense. If a woman has a healthy pregnancy, why would someone terminate it? Just because she asks him to?

I didn't think people could just ask for surgical procedures. It has to improve their health in some way.

>>138018090
/pol/ is a pro-life board.

>>138018090
Abortion should be allowed however the bitch that gets the abortion should be sterilized and have all of her eggs frozen because she will clearly never be mentally ready to have a child

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>>138021445
>minorities
if you consider whites minorities then yes

>>138021346
great argument

>>138018090
Killing people is bad.

>>138021532
So you are saying that he intended for us to use our partners as literal cumdumps? We are all supposed to have 20-30 kids then?

>>138020712
>You will see. God is forgiving, you only have to repent. I have been an atheist too at 14.

No, I won't see because your god is fake. Surely you can see that if your god made any sense at all, the threat of hell would not be necessary.

>>138018090
I'm against late stage but when the collection of cells is yet to become a person it's fine.

>>138020740
>A fetus is a non-sentient device for carrying genetic material. It's little more than an organic machine, designed to do one job.

This is really basic stuff

>>138021640
He truly works in mysterious ways, doesn't he?

>>138021562
Well this is basically what the Muslims are doing and it seems to be working pretty well for them(in that they are dominating the planet), so maybe he was onto something.

>>138018090
The question isnt whether it is right or wrong the question is whether you believe the state/society should have the right to legislate over the individual.

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>>138018090

>>138020986
>Life was never about arguments, but about feelings

Tits or gtfo

>>138018090
Abortion should only be legal for shitskins

>>138021346
in Russia life is cheaper than vodka, what do you expect from Russians ?

>>138021346
Typical subhuman argument, typically coming from a subhuman eastern european.

Fuckin poor Putin-faggot degenerates from that shit-ass backwards commie faggotland Russia talking about "abortion isn't murder" you fuckin degenerate laughing stock of the world go back to your commie blocks go back drinking vodka till you die or Lada 2120 runs you over you pathetic pale jew faggot.

Fuckin idiot.

>>138021795
My sides just experience another pogrom

>>138021724
You're just being deliberately obtuse now

>>138018090
If you don't want a baby, why did you make it in the 1st place you stupid cunt?

>>138018090
abortion is a female monopolized eugenics program. women in iceland have systematically eliminated every single downy. down syndrome has been reduced to zero in iceland

>>138018090
Killing ppl is wrong
WTF

>>138021949
Fortunately for me, I have the option of doing it deliberately.

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>>138022105
jej

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>>138021447
Aizveries, Janka

>>138021642
>the threat of hell would not be necessary.

this. if god was truly perfect, all-knowing and loving he would not have created the devil and a hell and would not send souls there for ETERNITY for a finite amount of sin.

>>138018090
Morally I'd say it's pretty damn disgusting thing to do, it's murdering your own child, nothing more, nothing less. But of course, when u think about it it's genetic suicide as well and it's piece of shit whores that are doing it so it's basically removing evil feminist cunt (and nigger) genes out of the gene pool. I support abortion though I'd never associate with anyone that supports or had an abortion unless it was explictly for eugenic purposes

I feel like the discussion on abortion would be a hell of a lot different if men also had to endure pregnancy.

It's easy to point the finger and force the 'other' side to do what you insist must be done, when you yourself are safe in the knowledge that you'll never have to do it.

Call me an SJW / cuck or whatever you want, but in the spirit of fairness I think any laws regarding abortion should be primarily determined by women.

I think a lot of laws should be like that, actually. If something only affects men, men should be the deciders on it. If something only affects women, women should be the deciders on it. Abortion affects a child, though, and it takes two to make that happen, so I don't think men should be ousted from the process completely, but since women obviously bear the brunt of the burden, I think a majority ruling made by women should be pursued rather than just a bunch of old white men who have long forgotten how to empathize.

Go ahead, crucify me.

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>>138021914
>shit-ass backwards commie faggotland Russia talking about "abortion isn't murder"

You know why? Because every month we hear a story like this from media

http://www.newsru.com/crime/05jul2017/murdbabyhospmsk.html
>Mother secretly killed her child after giving a birth in hospital because of financial problems

http://www.gubernia.com/mesto-proisshestviya/proisshestviya/mat-naydennogo-v-khabarovskom-musornom-konteynere-mladentsa-zayavila-chto-sluchayno-ubila-syna/
>Mother gave birth in toilet of her house and then """accidentally""" stabbed newborn child to death while cutting off the cord. She then threw the body into the trash can

http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-10-12/v-chelyabinske-mnogodetnaya-mat-ubila-svoego-novorozhdennogo-rebenka
>A cashier, mother of 3, gave birth at her workplace and then strangled a toddler to death because of mortgage problems

Ok, so here's the deal.
Your dick is getting sucked by some woman when all of a sudden that woman chomps, gobbles and eats your cock.
Of course, you freak out and, while in excruciating pain, you run to the door to escape yelling "What the fuck".
The woman is, meanwhile, just there having a taste of your cock and calmly says "Geez, this is just like eating my nails, your cock was inside me so it's my body".
And that's what I think about abortion.

>>138021914

I agree with you, man.

Fuck Russians.

They're pretty low on the totem pole. Who cares what they think?

>>138020989
>>ex
>>single mother
>Is you(r friend) nigger?
No, she was mestizo and after he got her pregnant he found out that she had stolen a ton of his money, used lots of credit card and just wasted it all on a bunch of dumb shit without him knowing it. I always though she was dumb and annoying.

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>>138018816
i think abortion is wrong and fucked up how about not being a slut

>>138018090
>women
>rights

yeah nah

sage for slide thread

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>>138021914

>>138023102
Yes, yes, why can't primates defy the most fundamental urge instilled in them by 3000 million years of evolution?

>>138022914

Exactly, fuckin scum of the earth, crypto kikes, poor, ugly, their women are literally WHORES for export, their country is a fuckin wasteland both literally and figuratively, their faggot ass kike president threatens to the World like every faggot kike-russkie did for 50 years...

AND THEY DON'T AND WON'T DO SHIT.

Can you imagine being a member of such faggot shit infested degen country, who is always yapping about military this, military that, MUH RUSSKIE MILITARY, KEKEKE STUPID FATBURGER AMERITARD JETS, BOATS, RUSKIE MAKES EM BETTER....

LMAO

And then A FUCKIN ROACH takes down your fuckin Sukoi or whatever it's called, Suck-Oy, and your faggot bitch ass country does JACK SHIT about it.

Cowardly scum.

Abortion is murder. Go fuck yourself commie faggot.

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>>138021191
aren't u technically just a clump of cells?

>>138022781
https://riafan.ru/641840-zhenshchina-ubila-novorozhdennogo-sharikovoi-ruchkoi-i-vybrosila-v-musorku-v-zheleznogorske
>Another woman also gave birth at a workplace and then stabbed the kid several times with a pen and threw his body into a trash can

http://baikal-info.ru/number1/2005/12/004002.html
>Mother of two strangled the younger child because he was screaming and won't let her sleep

http://www.dvnovosti.ru/incidents/2016/07/06/52662/
>Already a mother of one, gave birth in toilet while riding a train, proceeded to throw newborn daughter out of the window

>>138018090
If it wasn't for abortion I'd have like 30 kids

>>138023295
Try telling men that to enforce these anti-slut rules they also have to avoid having sex out of wedlock.

That'll really active their almonds.

>>138023091
>he found out that she had stolen a ton of his money, used lots of credit card and just wasted it all on a bunch of dumb shit without him knowing it
Right in feels. Although i'm glad that never happened to me, but i know stories.

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>>138023295
if its just an urge why don't you let a black man ride your ass its only lust why deny him his primal urges?

>>138018317
The fetus is a trespasser in the mother's body. It's akin to a parasite that steals oxygen and nutrients from the mother. Therefore abortion is justified.

>>138023295
I have an instintive urge to clobber niggers around the head with a lump hammer because they are a dangerous predator inhabiting my living space. Unfortunately that's illegal, unlike abortions.

>>138022717
Why are u pretending just women have it hard. A woman can basically go through life on Easy difficulty, if a woman wants to have a happy fulfilling life she just has to choose a not totally dysfunctional man for a husband and have some kids with him and take care of that husband and kids. Meanwhile men have to get in extremely stressful and physically intense jobs, even in this modern age, while being the ones who will get blown in pieces when their society has to be defended from outside forces.

Even bearing kids is pretty much risk-free and mostly painless now.

All decisions should be made by white men because women have no idea whats good for them, especially not in the long-term.

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>>138021208
>in reality, the results of banning abortion aren't pretty
>but given your flag, how should you know
>keep living in your fantasy world where humans behave in your fantasy ideal way
If you're saying we should just practice eugenics and sterilize whores then i am all for it. That would be infinitely more moral and just then ripping unborn children to pieces with forceps.

>>138023295
>Yes, yes, why can't primates defy the most fundamental urge instilled in them by 3000 million years of evolution?
Well they have no problems killing their unborn child so they don't seem to have any problem defying evolutionary urges.

>inb4 killing your offspring is an evolutionary advantage

>>138023612
lol classic anon you didn't answer my question would you let him ride you if its just a primal urge

>>138018090
I'm not sure how to feel about abortion.

On the plus side it kills children, but the downside is it gives women a choice.

If you are against abortion, is it because you see it as the same as someone just murdering a baby for no good reason?

I'm curious about other arguments to be made against abortion that aren't the usual "it's killing babies" (not that that isn't a good argument, honestly, I just want to know if there are any other popular arguments against abortion that don't throw the word murder around.)

>>138018090
>i can kill a renter because i own the house
This is your logic

>>138023546
>Right in feels. Although i'm glad that never happened to me, but i know stories.
That's what he gets for treating her like an adult human being. Some one who can't even delay gratification enough to stay within a resonable weight will obviously be in the risk of falling for the credit card jew.

>>138022717
But men will be involved in the raising and paying for that child. He will have as much responsibility for that child as the woman after birth and yet you would want to make already unfair laws that favour women more unfair?

>have a right to do whatever she wants with her body
>her body

and what about the body of her child? she is carrying a defenseless little human inside of her and that's what nature intended for her to do. I also hope you realize that abortion not only hurts and kills the fetus but repeated abortions may result in the inability to ever have kids again. some women do not understand this and abort anyway. I really can't say anything positive about abortion. it's a really disgusting and horrible thing.

>>138023811
how about the fact it supports Amy sheuer and sluts in general to be whores with a gap bigger then the grand canyon

>>138023777

Depressed Austrian numale full-blown estrogen cuck.

Your country is beautiful, exceptionally orderly, nice and neat - and you are diametrically opposite of it, you fuckin abomination.

>>138023295
You mean why can't females keep their legs closed. The answer is they aren't punished for being sluts anymore. It's openly celebrated.

>>138018090
Only right if the baby has disabilities.

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>>138023900
>but repeated abortions may result in the inability to ever have kids again.
This is the only thing positive about it.

In fact, they should sterilize every women that want an abortion. Unless she got pregnant through rape or this.

>>138023588
>trespasser
Yeah because fetus are known to roam the night and crawl into the women's wombs when they sleep.
It has nothing to do with women being careless slutbags.

sage

>>138023963

I see what you're saying.

Do you think men should also avoid being promiscuous?

>>138024100 once you bring up the slut argument most of these skin heads cuck out

>>138019048
You consented to allow that "parasite" into your body, now it's your job to simply NOT kill it.

>>138023378
>http://maks-portal.ru/proisshestviya-sochi/v-sochi-mat-ubila-svoego-novorozhdennogo-rebyonka
>Strangled the newborn, buried him on a backyard

>http://elesto.ru/14165-v-podmoskove-mat-ubila-svoego-novorozhdennogo-rebenka.html
>Alcohol addict, was planning to kill a child since the moment she found out about pregnancy. Gave birth in her apartments and broke skull of her newborn daughter, then threw the body out.

>http://kamchat.info/novosti/na_kamchatke_mnogodetnaya_mat_ubila_novorozhdennogo_rebenka_malyshka_umerla_ot_udush_ya_v_pakete/
>Gave birth and then strangled daughter by putting bad over her head and locking her up in a freezer. Told the police she was stillborn.

>>138023588
>Invite someone into my home for several months via a choice fully accepting that they would need food water and air while they live here.
>The next day decide to brand them a tresspasser and shoot them in the head, my home my choice.

>>138018090
its wrong only if the baby is white and not retarded

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>>138023738
I'm saying you end up with half a million abandoned orphans in a country of 20 million and>>138022781
>>138023378
>>138024243

>>138018317
> It violates the NAP.
Are you vegan?

>>138024334
i think Ben Shapiro does the best job of talking about abortion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwltfg9odrk

>>138018090
depends which race the baby is

>>138024518
so if its black??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>138018090
Had her own child brutally murdered
AND SHE IS STILL A FAT FUCK !!!

GOD I HATE THESE PEOPLE SO FUCKING MUCH

>>138024100
>>138024412
The fetus wasn't necessarily invited. You can have sex without the intention to get pregnant.

>Condoms
>Female Condoms
>Contraceptive pills
>Morning After Pill
>Tied Tubes
>Spermicide
No clearly the only solution to your problem is the one that involves tearing a foetus apart and pulling it out of your vagina bit by bit

>>138018090
As a result of rape, incest, defect if child, or potential injury of the mother, I'm perfect fine with it. I don't like the idea of abortion, but Im a practical person. If someone needs an abortion outside of those circumstances give them a hysterectomy as well. Solves lots of problems.

>>138024620
I can eat KFC every day of my life without the intention of getting fat but it's still my own fucking fault when it happens.

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>>138024620
yeah but if you get pregnant then it should be on you

>>138024620
if you're a degenerate

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>>138024800
>muh degenerayte maymay
stop trying so hard to belong

Abortion's one thing

What about abortion SEX tho?

>>138024727
If you leave your door open, it's pretty much your own fault if a burglar decides to come in. Doesn't mean the burglar isn't violating NAP.

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>>138018090
when its a nigger its right but when its a white its wrong :3

>>138020528
Atheism is a far more Jewish Ideology than Christianity

>>138024954
Tempting a burglar with an open door is a violation of the NAP.

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>>138024915
being a slut and aborting a child is like being a Muslim and being gay they contract if a women is sterilized then its okay otherwise begone THOT

>>138024456
He's good on speaking about morality side, but tbqh i think abortion is a weakest topic for him. I got that abortion is immoral, and libtards general arguments are dumb, however i've never heard anything really convincing from him on why abortion should be banned. Also i clearly see that he likes to omit certain stats that prove this entire question to basically be a non-issue, at least for USA. Such as post-20-weeks abortions (when early born child actually can survive with contemporary therapy) being 1% of total IIRC.

>>138024915
shut it gypsy

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>>138025071
>this is a native English speaker's post

>>138025156
amazing argument

>>138024635
>>138024620

If a woman really doesn't want to get pregnant, she will make sure she is on the pill, and the guy is using a condom and take any other measures she can to ensure it doesn't happen.

>>138025201
nigga what do you mean native English speaking??

If you don't want a baby, don't have sex.

>>138019053
dafuq mate

>>138018177
>>138018090
That babby is violating the NAP, it's within her rights to protect her freedom.

>>138019155
suck Putin's cock?

>>138025128
i agree but i still think pol should stop trying to cuck him as far as I'm concerned he's on our side

>>138023588
Agreed. Also, babies are annoying, screaming shit-machines.

>>138025358
not postnatal aborting murrican shitposters is violating the NAP

sage

>>138024223
The law in the vast majority of civilised countries trumps your opinion.

>>138025029
Weapons-grade derp

>>138025255
It's true that it's preventable, but that doesn't stop the fetus from violating NAP. We can use a similar scenario as here >>138024954

You decide not to lock your door because it's inconvenient for you to carry your keys with you. The burglar will still be violating NAP even though you could've taken steps to prevent it.

>>138025288
Contender for "most retarded post of the decade" award

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>>138025674
atheism is so cringey

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not sentient = it is a thing, not a person

this applies equally to early term foetuses and also braindead but otherwise alive bodies in a vegetative state routinely chopped up for organs in hospitals

no mind, no victim, no crime

Abortion should be legal if both parents agree on it.

>>138019048
>Someone gets onto your property through no fault of their own
>Cannot physically leave due to circumstances beyond control
>Shoot them because they inconvenience you
>MFW not murder.

>>138019295
>being this salty

Liberals are pieces of shit.

Fuck them. Fema camps for all of them.

>>138025826
This was your best attempt at a witty rejoinder? Religiotard confirmed.

>>138018816
>yeah your awesome, don't be a slave to the patriarchy.

women don't talk like this. get away from your PC screen m8. the world isn't a college campus

>>138021453

Very confusing statement from a Darwin perspective..

>>138026113
how was i being a religontard desu you atheists bitch about the crusades honestly because the pope abused the bible to further the power of their catholic cancer hole Christianity must be bad sorry boi but I haven't seen a lot of christian caused deaths lately

>>138022242
Izēd dirsu, mīkstais

>>138018759
post her name

>>138018678
My heart goes out to you stranger for whatever your life has been to see you feeling such a way about innocence. I pray one day your pain will be as meaningless as your edgy anger.

>>138018090
what race was it?

>>138018090
Neither right or wrong. Yet you have to learn what morality is.
Let me redpill you on morality

Do fetuses have a value?
They are an apart body inside another body.
So is it moral to say if the mother gave birth to a baby and the baby gets killed?
The answer is simply no.
Let me make clear, most of all abortions are not moral.
Watch this video, whether you're pro-life or pro-choice, that doesn't matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwkQVpy98A

>>138026113
>Religiotard

Underage located

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>>138018090
Only God has the right to decide who lives and who dies.

you don't own your body. the society owns it.

it is a duty of every healthy men and women to procreate to add to this society and its fitness. you fail at this duty you fail at being a part of the society.


on the other hand only degenerates willingly get abortion so nothing of value is lost.

>>138026643
legit tho calls me a religontard but doesn't comment back what a cuck

>>138018090
It's clearly wrong. It's not wrong enough to be illegal and women's right was upheld in Roe v Wade in 1973. It is not something to celebrate and should very clearly have restrictions on it just like most other rights.

>>138026795
You don't believe in god. You believe in a fucking book.

>>138018862
>u could have 36% more white babies but u playin

>>138027001
this comment make's legit no sense

I wish more slavshits like you were aborted desu

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>>138026795
This.

One thing is fight, and other very different is murder.

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>>138027001
Let me guess, you consider yourself vaguely spiritual and consider other people somehow less traditional than you? Grow up.

>>138018090
Good, because it culls human garbage.

>>138026574
Population has doubled since 1970.

Planet will most likely be ruined in a couple of hundred years. Just a toxic cement, steel and technological dump with a population of 30 billion.
Most species of animal extinct. Most counties looking like China at the moment. China is literally a human puppy farm.

Keep fighting the good fight.

>>138026480
>innocence
Bacteria are innocent, insects are innocent, rats are innocent. Innocence alone is worthless.

>>138018090
Abortion is permissible if the infant is:
>a nigger
>a product of rape
>seriously retarded

Abortion just for kicks or le finance meme is fucking disgusting

>>138027168
why are all Australians so libtard when it comes to abortion your country has plenty of land but you give it to mindless savages

>>138019126

Death penalty for abortion. Jesus, I can't even find words to describe an opinion as tyrannically retarded and stupidly evil as yours. To murder a woman and a doctor because...because you oppose "murdering" a fetus without much brain activity or sentience whatsoever. You must really have some serious issues. Maybe try seeing a therapist?

Fetus is not a person. Fetus is not a baby. Not until it can live outside woman's body on it's own. Until that it's just that, a fetus. If you consider that thing to be more valuable than the lives of two actual persons, you're evil. As simple as that.

>>138027168
The population has only gone up massively in shithole third world countries.

>>138027279
Disgusting - yes. But it's practical.
>for kicks
Do you really want woman who is mentally damaged to have abortion for kicks to raise children?
>le finance
Again, do you want welfare scam to proliferate?

>>138027500
why is it when a pregnant woman is murdered its called double homicide??

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>>138018090

>>138018090
A women with the eye of horus inside of the 666 hand sign tattooed on her murdering a baby.

She is a Satanic shill.

>>138018090
It should be legal.
It should be heavily discouraged by society.

>>138027761
at least somebody gets it

>>138018090
The more leftist and pro-migrants I meet the more I think abortion should be legal.

>>138018090
aborting nigger babies will never be a bad thing

it's wrong but God damn I was actually thinking in doing it but the bitch wasn't pregnant
I dodged a bullet there holy shit better stay virgin lads

>>138027801
This.
High abortion rates is clear sign of ill society, but making abortion illegal you will only proliferate that illness.

>>138018090
Bait from a shart
So you're approving of people doing what they want with other people's bodies (the childs body/life) which is good because one day I might get to stand on your face and you'll approve, apparently.

>>138018090
Sometimes I'm glad I don't have a gf and women kinda dodge me, I've seen a few men I know who were ruined by women.

>>138027529
The hope is that if no help is provided to the shitheads that get knocked up when they can't handle children, eventually they will adjust their behaviour.
It could have the effect of making family support more normal in those situations, rather than it being government intervention.
Having society treat idiots mothers like that harshly would have a positive genetic effect over time as roasties learn their lesson or watch their children die when no one is left to put up with their shit as big beta gubmint no longer bails them out.
This is preferable to an endless cycle of roastie behaviour followed by abortion that results in the deaths of many more potential children rather than a few hard lessons learned.

>>138028166
pussy is pussy and sex feels good but use condoms and you'll be fine

>>138028166
like bill when he married Hillary???

>>138027716
>I also noticed that everyone who is for death penalty is still alive.
This is where you retarded logic leads.

>>138018090
Only retards are against abortion, think of all the coalburners, sluts, and retards that will never be born because of this. It's truly the greatest achievement in human history.

>>138018090
I mean if it is a result of rape or the woman is in danger sure but why do they have to celebrate it's fucking sickening

>>138018090
Abortion is good because this planet has finite resources and is already grossly overpopulated

>>138027017
not white, american, so it's still a win for humanity.

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>>138018862
More abortion stats

>>138018090
It's immoral.

>>138028227
>The hope is that if no help is provided to the shitheads that get knocked up when they can't handle children, eventually they will adjust their behaviour.
No, they wont, there is no evolutionary pressure for them to adjust. They will breed marginal underclass, get knocked-up while drunk, give birth, half of their children will die off to starvation, another will perpetuate that cycle. Abortion allow them fuck as much as they want and keep their population down without any mental effort.

>Having society treat idiots mothers like that harshly would have a positive genetic
Abortion will have same effect - if you are dumb - you do not breed.
>rather than a few hard lessons learned
These lessons are never learned by hard knocks. They are learn by natural selection, both on genetic and cultural level.
>potential children
Potential children have no value, niggers have shitload of them. Potential members of society do. Roasty too dumb to get pregnant without ability to raise child has negligible chance of raising decent member of society.

>>138027123
Couldn't be further from the truth. Your prejudice needs a lot of work

>>138027323
Firstly... they live in the desert and remote areas and somehow survive. It's not our fault they're kind of bred to thrive in this country.

Secondly... I am not a libtard.., but are you religious by any chance?

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>>138019237
>>138027017
The White babies that got aborted either had Down syndrome or were otherwise genetic fuckups, or were from women that were either overly impulsive or liberal cunts. Intelligence, personality, and political views are to a large extent genetic. Abortion contributes to the selection pressure in pic related.

>Abortion
I completely agree with abortion.
As long as the baby is in her womb, the women have full rights to kill it.
even 2 hours before the birth.

>What is a baby?
little shit that gonna suck out resources out of you for the next 18-22 years.
And for many years to come, that baby would have IQ lower than a nigger.
So even a nigger is better than a baby.

>But....
If Government take all responsibility of the baby than it could be considered that : no abortion after X amount of fetus growth .

>>138028464
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>>138026574

Abortion is good. It means less niggers, spics, and chinks. It also means less degenerate whites, because most of the people getting abortions are liberals and degenerates.

>>138029158
This

>>138028597
>Trading sluts and retards for bigger sluts and retards and possibly terrorists

>>138021943
>another
merchant please

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>>138018090
If you believe the killing of another human being is morally acceptable, than you're just as fucked up as subhuman commies

My mom had an abortion, and I always wanted to have an older bro/sis.

>>138021852
>>138021346
Fuck of gypsie faggot! leave my eternal enemy alone, he has a point.

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What you need to understand about the abortion issue is that the case against legalized abortion is based on pretty obvious principles. The only reason why it is allowed by the left is because these people are in opposition to the concept that sex always comes with consequences and responsibilities and we are always responsible for what we do with our genitals. They have this infantile obsession with living in an escapist fantasy where they can have all the sex they want without consequences.

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>>138018090
It's right because existence is inherently negative, but it shouldn't be a choice but a moral and legal obligation to get an abortion (and then sterilization)

>>138025605
>>138019048
>law
>morality
neck yourselves liberals