Is it racist?

lol no
it just became known as the slave oppression symbol so that there wont be another civil war again

>Not even the real flag of the CSA
>Just a random battle flag that gained popularity among racists during the Civil Rights era

Yes of course it's racist. Fucking stupid hicks should learn their history and fly the real one if they want to display their heritage. Everyone who flys the flag is a racist.

>>138008112
Yes obviously
It was a flag used by an oppressive backward white supremacist state that allowed slavery to exist.

>>138008831
what's wrong with being racist though? legit give me an answer

>>138008112
Flags do not hold opinions.

>>138009621
The Jews dont like it.

>>138009915
>Nazi flag
>Red means the blood of the people, and the swastika represents Hitler's racial view of the Aryan race
>Flags don't hold opinions
Nigga wut?

if anyone who loves the south ever bothered to read the declarations of succession then this idiotic question wouldn't be necessary

>>138008112
I would like to say definitively no. However I can't really say that. The flag is of course the flag of the south and a part of it's history and character. But you can't ignore how it has so often been used as a symbol of the KKK and other racist groups. And of course there's the fact that it was used by the CSA which (detestably) fought for independence mostly so that they could maintain their slavery based economy.

>>138009621
Why? So I can listen to some edgy teenager drone on about racial superiority whilst using flawed research? I'm good, senpai.

>>138008112
Kys for even asking

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Every flag can be considered racist if you ask the right person.
They are symbols that can hold different meaning to different people and none of those meanings are more/less valid.
Flags are just objects and being offended by an object is infantile.

>>138008112
so I used to be all nah this flag is just a symbol of rebellion against an overgrown and abusive government and that there was nothing really racist about it and then one day I walked into this house that had rebel flags like this everywhere and I was like lol this guy gets it and then I noticed all his books and magazines were black women loving white cock and how niggers were inferior and I sorta was like... maybe this thing is kinda racist after all.

But to be honest I don't care because it's a symbol of people who are pro-white and I'm white and even though I'm not racist I really dont care enough to get involved with protecting minorities from white people because if I did they'd probably call me racist for trying to be the middle ground. So fuck em all, nothing I have to worry about, I'm white, I'm the best race in the world.

Yes, and that's a good thing.

>>138008112
Yeah, I walked by a confederate flag the other day and it leaped out at me, calling me a nigger while attacking.

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>>138010569
>I'm not racist
>I'm white, I'm the best race in the world

>>138008112

Yankee here. I think it looks great.
However, if you walk around with that on, like a tattoo, belt buckle, on your car, etc; you better actually be from the South.

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>>138008112

>>138008112
It's aesthetic tbqh

>>138010743
It's a fact dude. I didn't pick the winning team, I'm just on it by chance. Are you gonna tell me I should be mad about it?

>>138008112
Nah it's just a flag, inanimate and harmless.
The people who cling to it like it's some sort of important statement are racists tho.

>>138010926
>winning team
>dumber than chinks
>weaker than niggers

What did they mean by this?

>>138010926
Not him but racism is the belief one race is superior to another. You can be pro white without being a white supremacist.

>>138011043
>smarter than niggers
>stronger than chinks

your move kid

>>138010743
"white" southerners are either inbred if they are ethnically pure whites or mixed with native american or african genetics. the blacks seem to be just as inbredded as the "whites" in the south

>Is it racist?
No. It's popular among racists. Get the difference?

>>138011120
>Chinks and niggers team up
>They're already doing this by owning most of Africa
What now?

>>138008112
No. But some people are.

>>138011113
one thing mmos and video games have taught me is there's always a best race for something.

if you believe we're all perfectly equal at everything you're just stupid

>>138010926
Just found the irony a bit amusing. Almost as if one would say "I'm not gay, but I'd let another guy fuck me."

>>138011205
lol... don't go to africa and let them all murder each other. they seem pretty good at it.

>>138011120
>Stronger than chinks
>Lose to rice farmers in Vietnam
Kek, says the basement dwelling land whale
Americans are truly the cringiest beings on this planet

>>138011275
that's pretty much what I'm saying, yeah

>>138011260
Accepting there are advantages and disadvantages to races is not the same as claiming superiority. If you claim superiority then you're a racist. I'm not even trying to be malicious here.

>>138011365
>murder each other
The dumb nigs are just going to be the fighting Uruk-hai of the 4D chess champions tho.

>>138008112
Nope. All the South wanted was to live by their own laws. The North usurped the Southern States' rights and legislature. Slavery was just an excuse to go to war.

Many Southerners were against slavery. Read The Impending Crisis of the Douth and How to Meet It. It is a southern book written before the Civil War that argues slavery causes capitalism to fail. Most of the South did not own slaves, only the stupidly wealthy did.

Fun fact: The first slave was -owned- by a black.

The war was fought for two main reasons. One, do states have rights to govern themselves as originally granted in the Constitution. Two, can a state choose to depart the Union as there was nothing in the Constitution stating they -had- to remain.

2nd fun fact: Lincoln wanted to ship all the slaves back to Africa but he was executed before he could enact his plan. Look up Liberia for more info.

That flag symbolizes striving against foreign occupation and that a war was fought in the past. That's all.

>>138011367
>Lose
?

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>>138011367
Kekkity kekkity kek, talking about cringe flying a fucking fag flag.

>>138011367
no one lost anything bruh, we just decided people should fend for themselves. south korea is still there and is still basically worshipping USA

guess you didn't think of that?

>>138011551
Yes, the French and Americans both lost the war in Vietnam. Need I say more?

>>138011521
Yes and the rebel states got annexed back again by the yankee federal army.
I don't get your point.

if its not racist then why does /pol/ love it?

>>138008112
Maybe. Maybe not. There is nothing wrong with being racist so who the fuck cares.

The blacks enslaved their own kind and sold them to decent honest law abiding buyers. That was the law at the time.

Blacks are still enslaving their own kind.

Americans are asking to turn against their own history because blacks are telling them too.

Why the fuck would you bow down to that?

>>138008112

Ask yourself this. Suppose you're a black man and you get a flat tire on the highway at 3am. You walk a mile until you reach two gas stations. One of them has a pickup truck with that flag on it out back. The other has an identical truck, but no flag.

Which do you choose?

We all know the answer, and that's all that matters.

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>>138011731
/pol/ isn't racist

>>138011694
>but muh freedom to own slaves is our law we wanted

I don't give a fuck

>>138011798
I pick the one that has cheaper gas

>>138011683
Lost means we don't have a presence there anymore, but oh wait we have like buttloads of military bases and troops stationed there 24/7 soooooooooooooo...... yeahhhhhhhhh.....

does it burn you up?

>>138011943
we don't have bases in vietnam

>>138011798
Which one accepts EBTs?

>>138008112
No it isn't. It's perception as racist is due to American citizen's ignorance on what the Civil War was about or even what it fucking was.

>>138011798
The one that's easiest to rob.

>>138012019
the one with the truck w/ the confederate flag of course. the driver blames the black people for being on welfare

>>138008112
Everything soon will be, the OK hand sign is now racist.

If by racist you mean "pro-white", then it's extremely racist, and I am proud to be a Southerner.

>>138011521
>striving against foreign occupation
>against the current occupying force

top lel
>South:We secede
>Yankees: Ok
>Yankees we invade, we own you again
>South:O.....O....okay
>Hundreds of years later
>Here's a flag of a foreign power that doesn't exist anymore as a symbol of fighting against foreign powers.

Good logic though

>>138012126
southerners are literally peasant tier compared to actual whites

>>138010406
That doesn't make the flag racist though.

>>138012121
So are brown bag lunches and sandwiches with white bread.

>>138010406
who needs to do research when you live next to niggers, it's like an exhibit

>>138012060
The States Right's to own slaves?

>>138008112
It was the Virginia battle flag. Those Who fought under that flag supported slavery since slaves was the major tool of income for the south

>>138008112
it's a symbol
symbols do not possess inherent meaning they are imbued with them

>>138012293
>The States Right's to own slaves?
I'm not even American and I know that is only a small part of the civil war.

>>138008112
no, but it's stupid.

Are u asking if the Dukes of Hazzard was racist?

>>138012427
this. rednecks were a bunch of lazy fucks that couldn't even pick their own cotton. they deserve niggers and the destruction of their failed statues

>>138008112

It's redneck.
It's the south land.
I got no beef with that.

No it's not

>>138008831
Shit bait
>>138008848
The North had slaves too
>>138010103
They only mentioned slavery in the context of "our sister slave owning states" and not as a cause for secession
>>138010681
It's not
>>138010703
Lmao

Are you asking if the Dukes of Hazzard was racist?

>>138012467
Basically
>Southern confederate states
>We don't wanna be in the gang anymore
>Fuck off we'll fight you if you don't stay in the gang
>Get BTFO
>Ok we stay in the gang :'(
>200 years later
>butthurt losers still butthurt and cling to symbols of losing as a 'point of pride'

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I lived in the south and have never seen anybody fly it for any reason other than "southern pride". I wasn't even aware of the racist connotation until I went up north.

>>138012468
Says the fucking Communist

>>138012686
>southern mongs not being aware of things

Well par for the course desu

>>138012555
you should, because do you want to live in a society with no upwards mobility unless you were born to a certain family? or look a certain way (attractive) or have money? a society ran by assholes who wish to impose their autism on everyone else? a society where schools are tiered where only the wealthiest familie's children can attend "prestigious" state schools. a society where public funded state schools are only for the privileged?

because thanks to gop politics, that's the way we're heading

>>138008112
The flag is about freedom from tyranical governments.

>>138012467
It was about economics. Slavery played a part but only later on in the war as justification for the heavy losses
"Oh, we're doing it for this noble cause" instead of
"Oh, all these kids are getting killed because the North is losing money"

The people on here saying it was all about slavery haven't gotten past 9th grade history yet

>>138008112
It's just a flag and if you're offended by a flag and not the ideals a small portion of its owners have then you're probably retarded.

>>138012781
>descended from the crown's rejects

Not at all. It's our country's history and shouldn't be wiped from memory.

>>138012841
>Freedom from tyranical government that wiped out the bearers of said flag.

Nice symbolism you go there.

>>138012910
it should be ridiculed and laughed at. it's like respecting ebonics as "culture"

>>138012899
>descended from the crown's rejects

>>138012910
>wiped from memory
They still in history books doe.

>>138012910
how can it be wiped from memory you moron? you know things like the internet exist right?

>>138008112
It's good for marking out the LARPers that should be out of the gang.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words and flags will never hurt me.

Meaning if ur offended cos someone has southern pride then that's ur problem not theirs

>>138011200
"Racists" are figment of the libtard imagination.

>>138012418
The south didn't really give a shit about Slavery especially the soldiers. The soldiers didn't even own any slaves, they just wanted to protect their homeland and not have the north telling them what to do.

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>>138012347
It would be funny if it wasn't so true

>>138012807
Fuck off Commie faggot. It's the Democrats that are trying to push their shit on us. We want to be left alone

State shit is failing. Privatization has better results. The kids who go to Catholic schools are better educated and have morals. And private schools are not expensive. If nobody but the rich could afford them they couldn't stay in business.

>>138013171
yeah it sure has made the south the prosperous shining beacon of western civilization.

>>138012969
Down South is it the culture

>>138012427
No. The slavery part was just that, a part. The reason the South went to war was just like what is happening now, only in a different way. The North had been bleeding the South dry for years. The slave part was the final straw for the South, which ia why its so prominent on the declarations.
Just like now. The small, wearing down of white people constantly. There will be a straw in our lifetime too.

>>138013246
ignorance isn't culture, it's stupidity

>>138013111
I don't think anyone cares about the southern flag thing, It just so happens that a certain subset of loonies like to use it. It's the flag of a fallen power, reminder to all of the consequences of resisting federal power.

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>>138008112
No but it's the flag of the idiot rebel traitors

News flash, traitors, YOU LOST. This flag should be outlawed but not because of stupid racist bullshit but because it represents the traitors of the civil war.
Anyone who doesn't love this fucking country should try living somewhere else, go to fucking australia or canada or some shit you fuckheads.

You lost the civil war over a hundred years ago, get over it.

Fly the 50 stars and stripes or get the fuck out!

>>138008112
No

Just the good ol boys
Never meanin no harm
Beats all you never saw been in trouble with the law since the day they was born

>>138013239
The South has higher incomes. And yes, blue states are depopulating and people are moving South. Not everyone in the South dips and fucks their cousins.

>>138012965
We dont all put our tails between pur legs and lick our wounds when we get beat, nigger.

>>138011806
A E S T H E T I C S

>>138013354
higher incomes in what? fried foods?

>>138013283
Ignorance? Last I checked it was the North that believes there are more than 2 genders and that Communism actually works

>>138013171
the democrats are the great egalitarians of the united states, you poor, inbred, uneducated, toothless, meth-addicted incel who votes against his best interests :^)

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>>138008112
yes absolutely

>>138013354
Oh shut the fuck up you backwards hick and go back to feeding the cows I'm going to eat one day

>>138013356
Except the time you 'unconditionally surrendered' to the US Army....

>>138013310
The secession was legal. No one was a traitor.

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>>138008112
you do you anon. be a racist

>>138013403
and you all believe in a gov't that's plotting to steal your guns, and talk to imaginary friends that live inside your heads named jesus

Actually 'you' did.

>surrendering instead of commiting sudoku

>>138013459
From the minute those hilbillies considered it it was high treason
Don't defend them

>>138013239
ooh economist-sensei you have a wand to make one economic policy change of "the south" to make it prosperous
what is it

>>138013356
What about the time a bunch of farmers with muskets and some frenchies told you to scuttle on back to england and leave us the fuck alone?

>>138013404
Yea they're great egalitarians all right. Making sure everyone is equally miserable.

And my best interests are liberty and Capitalism, you worthless goatfucker.
All your insults described the prophet of Islam. You forgot the "child rapist" part though
Go back to jacking off donkeys

>>138011521
>Slavery was just an excuse to go to war.

Slavery was an excuse so the French and British don't intervene to dismantle the emerging Global Power

>>138013459
>was legal
Which law did they follow though? Technically seceding means they're a foreign power who got BTFO and annexed again by the federal army.

>>138013601
tax the churches

>>138008112
Only when it's flying next to a Nazi flag.

Otherwise, no. Americans died for that flag. There was a lot more to the civil war than slavery.

>>138013356
>THE NAZEES ARE KICKING OUR ASSES
>HELP US, MURRICA
>HELP US, MOTHER RUSSIA

I'll be honest.

The symbol itself is not racist, or at least, it's as racist as most other flags. Should I disparage the US flag only because it was institutedby slave owners?
On the other hand, I can assure you that all those people who care the slightest about the Confederate flag are racist. All of them.
My take on it is that we should mantain all of our monuments, but reconextualize them from a historical point of view, rather than an ideological one. You have to be a complete retard to be proud of Robert E. Lee, yet his shameful legacy can teach something to all of us, and the Art that resulted from it can still remind us of another time, and how much every man is molded by his surroundings.

>>138013636
when you are too southern to understand sarcasm

>>138008112
it can be if you want it to
I can also be the new gay pride flag if you want it to as well.

hat the thing I don't get about the sjw liberal marxist post modern desconstructionist thought.

they know about the dominanace of the subjective universe yet act like words and symbols and what they mean are written in stone since te beginning of time.
yet history and even their own post modern thinkers say otherwise.

>>138013664
ok you have taxed the churches
what do you think happens

>>138013270
The twits who drafted the Constitution forget to impose a maximum limit, say 5%, on tariffs.

The true cause of the War of Northern Aggression discovered.

>>138013417
I'm not a hick I live in the North
>>138013496
Yea, because the government didn't submit a resolution to the UN for gun confiscation, you fucking nitwit. And yes, Jesus Christ is my nigga

>>138008112
No it's not racist. But it's very triggering. I love how it triggers pretty much everyone. Even people not from this country or who never set foot in a southern state. It's the ultimate trigger mechanism because people see it so many different ways: slavery, racism, tyranny, states rights, secession etc and people love to argue that shit.

>>138008112
no, but some people who are racist have used it as a symbol of their racism anyways.

that flag is for confederate veterans and their legacy.

>>138013675
>Otherwise, no. Americans died for that flag.

A worthless endeavor.

The south would sink without the north, and possibly vice versa

I wonder how WW1 and WW2 would have gone with a divided America

>>138013779
many of them stop being churches because they can't afford to stay open just as god intended

>>138013696
The "I was using sarcasm" argument

>>138013496
Confiscating guns; that's Mrs. Clinton's wettest of dreams.

Most people just use it as a southern pride thing. No it's not racist.

>>138013513
lolno
>>138013641
>which law
Tenth Amendment
>BTFO
Not by a long shot, unless you consider victories like the Russians had over Germany where they only won because they threw such a mass of men at the Germans they ran out of bullets shooting them a "BTFO"...

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>>138008112
No

All the hysteria is going to remove the good ol Duke boyz from history tho because of stupid cunts who never give a shit about flyover states lmao till they can be outraged for all the blacks down here that don't give a shit themselves

>>138013954
how do i make this man king of economics
do i make a pdf file of his work and put it up on a website
is that how this is done

>>138013986
if it's not satan, it's either zombie apocolypse, obama is the antichrist, feds coming to take their guns, or the black people trying to defile their daughters. they're fucking schizos the south

>>138008112
Yes fucking racist. are you justifying slavery system? according to what gooks are saying, our rising sun flag also is completely offensive and consequently it should be banned or done accordingly.

>>138013813
>I'm not a hick I live in the North

So you're an idiot as well not just a traitor sympathizer

I'm from Texas, boy, and I love the 50 stars and 13 stripes.
I don't cling to some old notion and a war that we lost a hundred years ago.
I'm an American before anything and rebel sympathizers are traitors in my book

>>138014121
How is Old Glory any less of a symbol of institutional chattel slavery? Because it lived on a few extra years in order to outlaw it?

Yeah, ban it.

>>138014298
>I'm an American before anything and rebel sympathizers are traitors in my book
A book with lots of pictures and written in crayon no doubt.

>>138014103
Well now, during Mrs. Clinton's election campaign, there was a moment when she came out in favor of gun confiscation, and I thought, "Boys, oh boys, she's just written herself a political suicide note".

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how common is it for southern chicks to get BLACKED?

>>138014298
Also,
>implying there can't be hicks in the North

I've been to Philadelphia and New Yawk, boy, and let me tell you I've met the most toothless cousin-fucking pussy ass trailer thrash hicks up there that I've ever seen

Only difference is that here in Texas we got some real men in the mix, over there I don't understand how you manage to be hicks and pussies at the same time

>>138008112
I think it is history. I think it is racist.

>>138014055
As a black kid I loved that car. (Even had the toy car) and Daisy Duke made my dick hard. I blame my parents

>>138014468
confiscating from criminals

>>138014527
>Daisy Duke made my dick hard.

Git a rope

>>138014328
Niggers should be offended by Old Glory. Every Yankee slaver flew it.

>>138014480
the men get blacked too, they have a thing for black dicks

>>138014298
>I'm from Texas

No, you're not.

>>138008112
No.
It's literally great flag design.
The whole point of a flag is to recognize it while you're drunk, in fog, at sea, and intending to fire at it.
It's why, begrudgingly, New Mexico has a great flag design.

>>138008112
Yes it is racist

And that's not a bad thing

>>138014663
texas is nothing like the deep south except for east texas

>>138014487
not quite seeing how pretending to be a texan improves the credibility of your jingoism

>>138014663
Texan and a patriot, boy

Sorry if that's too much for your little hick brain

>>138014760
You're right it adds nothing

But I really do mean what I said about the time I lived in the North
Trailer thrash and hillbillies really do live everywhere

>>138014945
upstate ny is just as redneck as the south but at least they actually have jobs. someone's gotta plow snow

>>138014945
of course they do
if there were not a state in the union that did not have the poor and unfortunate, then they would be quick to flock there

>>138008112

Basically, the flag IS tied to a pro-slavery movement but many people who fought on that side were merely defending their homes and states. The war for the two powers was largely about slavery/power but for the soldiers is was about more than that. The people that fly it today are either proud to be southern or racist, it's hard to tell. I think that the flag has no real place in the (((current year))) and that we should be looking forward, not backwards.

Basically, I can see how it is offensive to some but it is not explicitly racist. It should be removed from government property. It's a flag, which is historically used to show affiliations, that's why it should be removed. Statues are different.

>>138015040
>upstate ny is just as redneck as the south but at least they actually have jobs

Selling meth isn't a job

Lately I have seen more rebel flags on trucks driving around, on flag poles where people are selling local honey on the side of the road and on people's front porches since last Saturday. It's a beautiful sight, the best part is nobody cares. Even the blacks around here are as laid back as we are. They know that unless you purposely make it a racial issue, it's live and let live.
That is the biggest difference between the Deep South and everywhere else. The thing is, you ban something, that just makes it much more popular. I don't give a damn if you think its racist or not, it ain't going away anytime soon.

>>138015410
top kek

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>>138008112
>bait thread
Is it retarded?

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>>138008112
>It never was racist.

"There's a great deal of misunderstanding about the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, slavery, the whole thing. The political correctness of today is no way to look at the middle of the nineteenth century. The Confederates fought for some substantially good things. States rights is not just a theoretical excuse for oppressing people. You have to understand that the raggedy Confederate soldier who owned no slaves and probably couldn't even read the Constitution, let alone understand it, when he was captured by Union soldiers and asked, What are you fighting for? replied, I'm fighting because you're down here". - Shelby Foote

>>138015482
live and let live means tolerating that someone doesn't want to be asked why they don't attend church or give in when you incessantly badger them about going with them and not taking no for an answer. the only true live and let live spirit is the ability to be the stupidest person and vocal about their stupidity and having sane people being too pussy to tell them to stfu about their insane views

>>138015410
>none of the blacks help him get down

>>138014627
That's exactly what I've been saying. The US flag flew over the slave states from 1776 to 1865. The CSA flag only existed for 4 years.

Which flag was flying:
-Over the Japanese internment camps after pearl harbor?
-As the US bombed civilians in Vietnam and Iraq?
-While the US Army were genociding the Indians?
You guessed it...Ol' Glory

>>138010489
I never liked the Van Dorn Flag.
I never liked Van Dorn, either.

>>138008112
who cares its a losers flag. anyone that flys it is a cuck get a cooler flag

>>138015891
which flag was flying over gitmo :^)

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>>138010794
>LoL

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>>138015839
>when he was captured by Union soldiers and asked, What are you fighting for? replied, I'm fighting because you're down here".

Romanticized bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Army#Control_and_conscription

>"The act was amended twice in 1862. On September 27, the maximum age of conscription was extended to 45.[15] On October 11, the Confederate Congress passed the so-called "Twenty Negro Law",[16] which exempted anyone who owned 20 or more slaves, a move that caused deep resentment among conscripts who did not own slaves."

>TLDR: Slave owners were exempt from the draft

Educate yourselves, idiots.

War was, and always will be, an endeavor started by the wealthy and fought by the poor and foolish

>>138015839
>Shelby Foote
Amazing Historian that examined both sides of the coin. That's what we need now, but that ain't happening anytime soon. Too many uneducated experts with diarrhea of the mouth out there.
>>138015842
It boils down to this, there will always be those that make us look bad. I know people that are trashy and have the rebel flag as tats. I don't like that and it damages the image. However the people that love their state and culture and proudly fly the US and CSA flag on their property are right fine in my book. Just keep it classy is all I ask.

>>138015285
Where did Yankees get the notion that slavery is bad?

SJW's cannot be allowed to dictate to social norms; socially-sanctioned bullying cannot be tolerated in a free society.

Mind you, letting Muslims into America is a good way of re-instating slavery on the North American continent.

>>138015839
Ken Burns' documentary is so comfy.

>>138012418
States Rights to whatever they God Damned Well Pleased, Faggot.

The Declaration of Independence was not that they were to be one State, but "thirteen free, Sovereign and Independent States." This was in strict accordance with the instructions of their constituents. The people of the several Colonies would not consent for a Declaration to be made in any other way. The Declaration of Independence was forming a Confederation of Independent States. - Alexander Stephens, 1868

>>138016327
One slave owner joined the CSA as private; by the wars end he was general greatly feared by the Yankees.

Who was he?

>>138016501
ive seen the flag flown from private homes in colorado of all places. if anything classy is the last thing i think of when i see it on someone's property

>>138016327
>Spotted the Yankee
When the South was invaded, Southern States called upon their sons to defend their States, homes & family from invasion. These men went to do their duty, not as aggressors, nor in the spirit of conquest, but to protect their homeland from an unjust invasion.

>>138016820
Nathan Bedford Forrest

Forrest Gump was named after him.
He was an exception, not a rule

>>138016820
Robert E. Lee was once asked, who was the greatest soldier in the Civil War, and Lee said without hesitation, "It is a gentleman in Tennessee whom I have never met. His name is Forrest.”

William Sherman said that Forrest was “the most remarkable man the Civil War produced on either side.”

>>138017022
you mean the homeland that our forefathers fought to free from the british and how southerners wanted to split the union because of their autism about having slavery? slaves outnumbered southerners so thats the only reason they autistically screeched their way into secession until we put our foot down to preserve what the founding fathers worked so hard for

>>138016718
Ken Burns is a lesbian faggot.

>>138016848
Then you've fallen into the bias trap. Like I said earlier, it is the programmed response you've been taught to immediate assume their low class and cross burning racists. This is the problem. And yes you are correct in terms of certain types of homes, but I see both trailers flying them and also very nice suburban homes with them in the back yard. The point is to never assume.

>>138011521
>2nd fun fact: Lincoln wanted to ship all the slaves back to Africa but he was executed before he could enact his plan. Look up Liberia for more info.
He was going to encourage them to repatriate to Africa but he was not going to force them. If you have evidence that Lincoln was going to mass deport all blacks against their will then post it.

>>138008112
>138008112
whats wrong with racism? everyone is racist. my issue with the flag is because of it being on the losing side.

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>>138017022
Oh so the South didn't need a draft at all. Gotcha.
Except they fucking did need one.

And again, no, I'm a Texan, and a patriot.

I just happen to not sympathize with traitors to our flag, and I don't reminisce about a war that happened more than a hundred years ago and we lost but some cousin fuckers are still proud of for some reason.

No siree. Some boys in Alabama may still be living in the past and cherish that time when they went against the north and the north won, and I'll admit there's a few here in Texas that will fly the traitor flag, but I am a red blooded patriot.

As I said, fly the old glory or move the fuck out to Canada if you hate the stars and stripes so much, we don't need you toothless hillbillies anyway. Few dozen less mouths on welfare and a few less white thrash meth heads running around on their beat up trucks from the 70's. You bring nothing to the table and you will not be missed, you fucking parasites holding back our beloved communities.

Me? I love the 50 stars and stripes and I love the Lone Star Flag, now and forever.

I love my state and I love my country

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>>138017431
Goodnight y'all, and have a Dixie day!

>>138017431
Georgia flies them in the front yard, Desu.

>>138017321
"If the Declaration of Independence justifies the secession from the British Empire of three million colonists in 1776, we do not see why it would not justify the secession of five millions of southerns from the Federal Union in 1861." - Major General Joseph Wheeler

"If the day should ever come when the affections of the people of these States shall be alienated from each other...far better will it be for the people of the disunited States to part in friendship from each other than to be held together by constraint." - John Quincy Adams

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>>138017602
This is the most common thing I see

>>138017711
you oppressed yourselves by not having a viable industry besides cotton

>>138017575
Also, let me add that every single one of the fuckwits who want to secede are also idiots

Texas is fine as part of the Union

>>138010081
>Adolf Hitler invented the Swastika

>>138017777
Mein gott my first quads 卐卐卐卐

>>138017575
Unthinking dumb fuck flag-worshipping Patriotards like you have created the mess that your country is in and I don't believe that the Donald will fix things.

>>138017536
>Lincoln wanted to ship all the slaves back to Africa
The conversation was more along the lines of, "Honey, do you want chicken or ground beef for dinner", or, "Do you want to go to the mountains or the beach on vacation".
In other words, he wasn't serious about it.

>>138017926
it's what he believed would be best for the country

>>138017892
Just because you hate your British colony excuse for a country doesn't mean everybody has to hate theirs you fucking mick

>>138008112
Its as racist as apple pie and baseball, just like all white history/culture, it was formed off the backs of slaves, native americans land and dignity and mexican labor. There literally isnt a single thing about white people that isnt racist, every white is inherently a racist and nees to be bred out already.

>>138018164
slavery existed in aztec society and mexico would still be a bunch of savages sacrificing humans if the europeans didn't breed with the natives and civilize them

>>138010794
i wouldnt ever be caught wearing any flag...but now that everyone is making such a big deal about it, i just might

>>138018074
>>138017892
Also let me point out that Ireland's not a real country; You're an englishman that drinks alot and from what I hear suffers from terror attacks

And from what I hear, you'll be overrun with muslims soon too. So handle your own damn problems before you try to give your opinion on ours, you fucking mick piece of shit.

>>138011113
thats not what cnn said, it must not be true.

>>138017926
Your metaphor is so senseless I suspect your brain is smaller than your penis, but Lincoln was in fact close with the American Colonial Society (driving force behind establishment of Liberia), and he was most definitely serious about the repatriation of blacks to Africa, or new colonies in South America, in particular in what is now Grenada.

I don't know how people are so woefully ignorant of well-documented and widely-known facts.

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>>138008112
I don't know. Why don't you ask Hillary?

>>138017763
Meh ... there were plenty of factories. Just nowhere near the number that the Yankees had. There were *many* reasons they lost. The blockade hurt tremendously. So did losing New Orleans, the Mississippi River, and Albert Sidney Johnston, too. Meat grinder battles took a toll. Grant saw his men as disposable. When he got down 10,000 men, he ordered another trainload of Germans fresh off the boat in NYC. A blow came when Sherman was in GA. He kidnapped the women of the Roswell & New Manchester mills and sent them to OH & IN. When their husbands found out about it, they deserted in droves to go find them.

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>>138018642
Or her husband.

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>>138008112
>Is it racist?
FUCK NO
UCK NO
CK NO
K NO

NO
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.t northerner

>>138018475
America belongs to Ireland.

>>138008112
nope

>>138018614
Well for one, he was a homosexual tyrant, and people around here never have had much respect for the son of a whore.

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>>138018909
You're dumber than I thought, mick

You belong to England

Go eat some potatoes or something

>>138018164
Cherokees gave away their land for baubles, shiny things, firewater & stuff.

>>138018909
Probably more Irish in Alabama than on Ireland.

How long until the left decides Mt. Rushmore is racist and blows it up?

>>138018943
Some guy found an old will of some Jew who left the land where Huntsville Alabama, now is,to one Abraham Lincoln. Did he ever collect on that inheritance?

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>>138019161
>more Irish in Alabama than on Ireland.
Well that explains Alabama

>>138019161
There are more people living on the island of Ireland than there are people living in Alabama.

>>138019270
They're already working on it. I wouldn't mind seeing Lincoln's ugly mug blasted off it.

This is a logical consequence of Democrats telling their lies to niggers so they can acquire their votes. The two-party system is breaking down because there no longer a common consensus on what it means to be an American anymore.

>>138008112
dont care

>>138019161
I always knew there was somethin' wrong with Alabama

>>138020532
Hmm, why do Alabamians say " Thank God for Arkansas"?

>>138013138
>north telling them what to do
What was the north telling them to do... something about slaves maybe?

>>138011610
Fucking disgusting commies. At least it wasn't a red ensign I guess.

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>>138020724
>Thank God for Arkansa
mfw there are people who think this

>>138018780
The Tsar of Russia intervened on the Union's side. He sent two fleets to America with instructions to follow any orders which Lincoln would give them if France or Britain intervened on the Sourhern side. The South was counting on recognition by these powers to stop the Yankees fighting them. This was what the battle of Gettysburg was all about. It was unconstitutional for Lincolnites to pay the Tsar for the use of his navy; so they bought Alaska off him instead.

>>138021290
Yes, there are; they live in Alabama.

>>138008112
it is pretty racist (You can claim it's not, but only racists use it), but that is kinda the point.

>>138021971
>millennial or younger detected
>also note flag
STFU NordNigger. You don't know jack shit besides what your liberal society has crammed down your throat. The Confederate flag ain't about racism in this time frame or ever ffs. Its about freedom you cuck. The freedom a man enjoys knowing the federal government can go fuck itself. Society has rights. States have rights. The people have rights. No 1% rich fucks that buy power daily in some far away place have the right to interfere with that.

>>138017892
Let's see, the point I'm making here is that the strong patriotism that many Americans feel, is their Achilles heel that the system uses against them. The inability of Patriots to figure this out is why they've been renamed Patriotards.

The strongest manifestation of the self-destructive nature of American patriotism occurred after Pearl Harbor.

>>138022334
However, the current generation of young people have had this delusion strongly implanted in their innocent minds by progressive liberals. The evil DemocRATs are using these SJWs as their attack dogs to embarrass Donald Trump.

>>138008112
Just dropping in to tell my fellow anons that Antifa has their own chan
0CHdotORG
So, you know, no one goes there by accident.

>>138022334
>>millennial or younger detected

1984 here, so technically yes.

>The Confederate flag ain't about racism in this time frame or ever ffs.

Yes it is, it is mostly used by the KKK and Stormfags to celebrate when black people was subjegated. It has no real other use anymore.

>Its about freedom you cuck.

If you want to celebrate traitors to America you could use many other symbols. You could join the millitary and stab soldiers from northern states in the back and become confederate yourself and start a new confederacy that did not list "slavery" as a main reason for fighting against America and a main reason to betray their country.

>No 1% rich fucks that buy power daily in some far away place have the right to interfere with that.

Yes they do... Both Republicans and Democrats support that. It's bipartisan agreement on the issue.

>>138021971
>only racist use it
what the fuck. That is such a bullshit i can't even...
And you are from Norway...you must be some refugee or nigger.

>>138022854
Not a refugee or nigger.

>>138021971
>>138022854
Eventually my Nordic friends you face demands to change your flags because your satanic polticians will, concealing their own hatred for your flags, claim that they are offensive, racist and other selected buzzwords to your muzzie guests and insist that you change them. Watch Sweden; they will surely do it first.

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>>138022804
Congrats. You have just proven every point in my post. You are a child that doesn't know shit, talking about a country and culture you don't know shit about. You are a fucking liberal scumbag that is literally responsible for destroying freedom of thought, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and western civilization in general. Every one of your rebuttal points literally streams from MSM propaganda. You know not what you do or say as being born in 1984 combined with your brainwashing gives you the insight of a gnat. Do western civilization a favor, die in a fire.

>>138008112
No. it's The General Lee from The Dukes of Hazzard!!!!! YEEEE HAAAAWW!

>>138023500
>Eventually my Nordic friends you face demands to change your flags because your satanic polticians will, concealing their own hatred for your flags,

Scandinavian countries have changed flags all the time. Only a little over 100 years ago since we changed the flag the last time here in Norway. I never heard anyone wanting to change the flag, but it would not be such a big deal. We might have lots of literally satanic politicians, but they usually don't mind the flag. I often see satanist use the flag because there is a satanic symbol on it (The Cross of Saint Peter).

>>138023604
>talking about a country and culture you don't know shit about.

Im not American, I know a lot about other countries, including America. Only Americans that ONLY know about America and don't know shit about the outside world.

>Western civilization would benefit if every white person born after 1984 died in a fire.

Fuck off boomer/gen-xer, you destroyed western civilization.